The harvest truly is plenteous,
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but the laborers are few.
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Pray you therefore
the Lord of the harvest,
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that he will, he will send forth
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laborers into his harvest.
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Also, I heard the
voice of the Lord saying,
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"Whom shall I send?
And who will go for us?"
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Then said I, "Here
am I, send me, send me".
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Life on the Edge
will enable you to be
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an effective
harvester for the Lord.
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We now invite you into our
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classroom to
come, experience Life.
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Hello welcome again
to the Lay Institute
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for Evangelism,
the Life on the Edge
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interactive Bible study course.
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You are here in
beautiful Groveland, Florida.
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I had to thought,
I had to think about
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where it was that for a minute.
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I know I'm in Norman, Groveland
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close to Orlando, Florida.
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We are at, it sun shines
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a lot but it rains everyday.
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And you are here along with
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the other students here at Life.
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You people at home,
I want to welcome you
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that you know that as
we go through these studies
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that if you have any
questions or anything
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is coming up during the studies
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you can go to our website
www.ComeExprienceLife.com
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or you can actually download
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the lesson studies
that we are doing here.
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You will be able to watch
the videos of these studies
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as well, or you
can get them on DVD.
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We welcome any of
you that are home,
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I pray that you
have your Bibles ready,
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have them ready to go as
we go into the study today.
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Our study today that
we will be going through
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is the
Destruction of the Wicked.
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We are going to
have a study about hell,
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what is it all about
hell, and so that's where
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we are going to
now in our study.
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We are about almost
half way through I guess the,
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the bible studies
right now aren't we
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little past half
way at number 11,
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I think there is 24 total,
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and I have to get
through all these studies.
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You will be able to
just take your Bibles
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into the home and
share with other people
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the word of God,
even if you don't have
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a printed out
study all ready to go,
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you can share with your Bible
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when you like to
be able to do that.
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Yeah, a lot of us would.
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And so this is where
we are at right now as far
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as the studies go a
little almost a halfway through.
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And today we are
going to be looking
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at the
Destruction of the Wicked.
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You can see it on
the screen over there
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the Destruction
of the Wicked or DW
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as how you will
abbreviate in the Bible.
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So whenever you go
marking through your Bible
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your abbreviation will be DW,
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it represents
Destruction of the Wicked.
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Or if you have your
own way of doing things
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you can put H for hell,
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but I use Destruction
of the Wicked on mine.
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And so the purpose
of the study today,
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here's what we have for
the purpose is to show that,
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the purpose of it to
show the purpose of hell
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is to destroy sin forever.
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Many people have
many misconceptions
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of what hell is all
about and the purpose of it
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is simply to
destroy sin forever.
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God doesn't like sin
and that's the whole reason
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we are in the problem we
are in today is the whole
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the sin problem has this
all messed up in the world.
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And so whenever
God finally takes care
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of all the wicked, and
takes care of everything
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through the lesson we're
gonna learn that the Bible
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teaches that He
destroyed sin forever.
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Now the center part of the study
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what we are centering upon
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the Destruction of the Wicked
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is that Jesus loves
sinners forever too.
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Jesus' love is for sinners
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and He loves them forever too.
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And some of you
counter with the first
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two statements
are throwing up walls
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sometimes people do
that, it's like is he saying
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that hell doesn't last
till Jesus ages of eternity,
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and burns people up.
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We will find out what the Bible
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has to say how is that?
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We will find out what the
Bible has to say with that.
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Now before we get
into the main part
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of the study I want to invite,
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invite everybody
here and you at home too.
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We are going to bow our
heads for a word of prayer,
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and ask God to guide
us because the Bible says
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that spiritual things
are spiritually discerned.
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And sometimes we have
ideas and plans and things
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that we think
that the Bible says
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and we put up a barrier,
and we just have an idea
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and we got to make the Bible fit
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what we already believe.
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And we are going to
ask God to do is help us
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to allow us, allow Him
to teach us what His word
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says through the study today.
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So let us all bow our heads
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as we have a word of prayer.
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Father in heaven, as
we open up your word,
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we get into this study on the
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Destruction of the
Wicked what we call hell.
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I pray Lord that you will soften
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our minds and our hearts
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to what your word is saying.
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And that if we have
any preconceived ideas,
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if there is anything in
our lives that is keeping us
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from understanding what
your will and your word says.
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I pray that will
be removed right now.
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Give us open minds and hearts,
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I pray in Jesus
name, amen, amen.
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Alright let's go
into the first text,
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we are going to go
right into the first text
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and before we get into the text
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it will be on
the screen here and.
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Oh no, we are not going
to get in the first text.
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I am almost always
forget this part you know.
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We have a list of all the text
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that we are going
to have in the study,
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and that's what we have
now Destruction of the Wicked
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a list of all the
text. It starts in Matthew 25
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we end in Ezekiel 33 verse 11.
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And we actually have
15 texts in this study,
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so you don't have to
take time to mark all of them
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down right now if
you still looking at them
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on the screen or if
you guys are here because
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we go through them one at a time
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as we go through the study.
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And also if you want a
copy of the study guides
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will be able to print them out.
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Those that they are
here in the classroom
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you can get them
off my computer of the,
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of the server and
those of you at home you can
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download them from
www.ComeExprienceLife.com.
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You can find that the link
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will be right on the front page.
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So let us get into it now,
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let's go the
first text of the study,
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it's Matthew
chapter 25 in verse 41.
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And let us go
through just one time
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a quick review
here, the first one is
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the Destruction of the
Wicked, so you put a 1DW
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and you would put it
somewhere you will write
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in your Bible somewhere around
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the Matthew
chapter 25 and verse 41,
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somewhere in that
section in your Bible
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you would write in there 1DW,
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Destruction of the Wicked.
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And then in the next
text you are going to,
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you remember you
don't have anything
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on the top line for this study
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right here at
the first one because
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this is the first
text we are going to see.
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The top line would
have the text you came from
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and since you came from nowhere,
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you just put where
you are going to next,
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and that's Matthew 25:34.
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So the first text is
like that when you start
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marking it in your Bible.
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Now has everybody
been here just curious
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in the class,
everybody pretty much caught up
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with their Bible
markings, getting them
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marked up and
everything like that.
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How many people have
four studies or more mark,
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four studies or more mark?
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Almost everybody
alright, how about home,
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you got four
studies or more mark, right.
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You should have
you get them marked
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and it's something
satisfying about it to know that
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you can actually go
into a home or even with
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a friend and study the
Bible with just your Bible.
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And like today's study
is a very interesting one
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this one, and like what happens
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when you die and
some of the others.
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You have ever been some place
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and someone says
something about hell,
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and say oh you know
hell is this or that.
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They are gonna
give, they will give,
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throw something out,
they believe it's this way,
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you say oh no but
there is a text in the Bible
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that says and
you give them a text.
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You know it's interesting
when you do the markings
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this way, we mark a
text we are coming from,
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and the text we are going to.
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If you turn to just one,
if you can just rememberv
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one text in your
Bible study, the hell study
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just one text, and
you turn to that text,
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it will give you
another text to go to.
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You can go either backwards
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or forward from that point.
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You follow what I am saying.
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And so if you can
just remember one text
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you are able to do the
whole study with somebody
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right on the fly like
that and it's pretty fun
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to be able to do that
and have an answer from the
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word of God, so is
that making sense, right.
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So, the first text
here at Matthew 25:41,
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I start to study off
something like this there,
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here we talk about hell.
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You know most
people will think when they
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think of hell, they
think of this really hot
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spot in the earth,
down in center of the earth,
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that's the general
terms and thoughts is
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going on in the
world today in Christianity
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and other places, and
the devil is down there
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with a pitchfork
and he has got the back
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the little horns
sticking up and the tail,
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and he is prodding
the sinner and making sure
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he could prod properly
and everything like that.
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You know you have read all that
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and heard about all that, right.
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Well the question I
want to ask you though
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who was hell prepared
for. I mean who is hell for,
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is it for us, is that one
God actually intended hell
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for us is to take you
and me and put us in the
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center of the earth
and turn us over make sure
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we are cooking
evenly and things like that,
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is that what he
has prepared hell for?
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Right or who is it prepared for.
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Matthew chapter 25 and
verse 41, Matthew 25:41
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has the answer to that.
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Does anybody like
to read that one here,
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Matthew 25 and verse
41? I am going to pick on
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right here in the
center at Shalida here,
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I am going to have
her read it for me,
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Matthew chapter 25 and verse 41.
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And Tim I saw you raise
your hand so the next text
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we are going to is
Matthew chapter 25:34
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and when she gets
done and after we get
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discussing that text
you can have that one.
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So you can have Matthew
chapter 25 and verse 34 next.
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So Shalida tell me
who is hell prepared for.
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Then shall he say also
unto them on the left hand,
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Depart from me, ye
cursed, into everlasting fire,
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prepared for the
devil and his angels.
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Alright so who is
hell prepared for,
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assuming like what
is God who they have
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prepared for the
devil and his angels.
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He has no
intensions really like when he
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created Adam and Eve
there in the Garden of Eden.
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He didn't say you
know what I am going to
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create mankind,
so I have somebody
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to throw in the hell.
Right, who it was created for?
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The devil and his angels,
so the devil and his angels
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they fall, they have
been cast out of the earth.
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We've learned
through those studies that
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they are here to
earth now and God says
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hell is going to be for them.
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That's he have it
for, he doesn't have really
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an intention on putting us
there but he has a dilemma,
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a problem and we will find out
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what that is as we move along.
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So hell is created for
the devil and his angels.
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Now I got to also
park here just for a minute
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because in this study
right from the beginning
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the first text we read says,
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it says you curse
unto everlasting fire.
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But I want you to
notice something here.
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It doesn't say they
have everlasting life,
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it says that the
fire is everlasting, okay.
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And we will get
into the whole idea of
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everlasting fire
and that kind of things
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we move along in the study,
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but just, just
wanted to bring that up
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at the very beginning
that it says everlasting fire
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is what the devil and
his angels are cast to.
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That's what the
plan is for them,
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so if we are not if
God didn't plan on like
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creating us just so
that he can send us to hell.
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Tim tell me what
did he create for us,
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what plans did
the devil or the God
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actually originally have for us
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whenever he first created us?
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This is Matthew
chapter 25 and verse 41.
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Let me get the
slide on the screen of 34
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rather Matthew
25:34 and you can see it
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on the screen there
that's the next text.
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And you did
Destruction of the Wicked
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the verse here
and Matt's going to,
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Tim is going to be
reading it for us Matthew 25:41.
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Then shall the King say
unto them on his right hand,
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Come, ye blessed of my
Father, inherit the kingdom
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prepared for you from
the foundation of the world.
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So Matthew 25:34
says that the kingdom
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was prepared for who?
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For us, right he is
going to say that those
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on his right hand those
people that oftenly saved
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and the kingdom of
God is prepared for us
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since when, since when
it was prepared for us,
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the foundation of the world.
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So God originally
had a plan for all of us,
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and that plan was that we be
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in his kingdom and live forever.
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You know he promises
the righteous eternal life,
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and but that's
not so for the wicked.
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He has something
else planned for them now
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and the devil, his
fallen angels and the wicked
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are all going to
go to that same place.
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Now I want to ask
you a question because
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this is like the key
thing, one of the key things
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to this study
right here and it's,
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when I was a heathen,
and I was raised completely
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out of church
and things like that.
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I mean I went to
church a few times growing up.
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Well my grandmother
would drag me and you know
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I went twice on Sunday
you know Christmas and Easter,
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that's when we would
go and we would do the,
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I would do the church
thing or any other time
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she would kind a
get me up make me go.
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But my ideas of
hell and what happens
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when you die and
all these things,
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it didn't come, it
didn't come from the Bible.
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You know I got my
ideas from something other
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than the Bible. I thought
that hell like we already
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discussed was in
the center of the earth,
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and the devil was down
there and you ever wonder
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where we get those
ideas and theology from.
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Yeah from the TV, I am making a
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confession to you,
before I became a Christian
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I started studying the Bible.
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I got my theology
from Tom and Jerry.
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You all know what
Tom and Jerry is right,
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it's the cat, mouse
cartoon you see on TV.
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As I grew up
watching all the TV I could,
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I mean just filled
my mind with that stuff
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all growing up. It's
a wonder that God has
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done anything with me
in my life you know because
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I have filled my
mind with so much garbage.
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But I would watch Tom and Jerry
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all growing up
now, no I am not saying
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that's total garbage
but you know some like
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Christian things and it
has some bad theology to it,
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because when I
would watch that show
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and other cartoons as
well, you know the cat
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he would have the
mouse there and he be,
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he may pounce on
him over something
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and a anvil would
fall on the cat's head
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dropping down to
the floor something
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and he would die.
And then what happen
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when this cat would die,
what would happen to him.
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Do you remember? Yeah
he will start floating
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down into the
center of the earth,
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right he would go
down, and down and shoving up
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the course of the
earth and it will start
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getting harder and
harder right and then when
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he would get there,
there would be this big
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cauldron of boiling
lava, and there would be
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a bulldog and the
bulldog would have the horns,
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and he would have
the pitchfork and a tail
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and he would go, and
he would take the cat
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and stick it down
that cauldron bowl,
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that bowl in
cauldron and holding down in
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and the cat just be
squealing try to get out.
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That was on a cartoon
right and then the cat
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would wake up and he
would be having a dream
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and he will be
laying in front of fireplace
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and fire be coming out
of the fireplace hitting him
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on the back and that's
what his dream was about right.
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But here I think is
interesting about that,
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that along with
what my Christian friends
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would tell me is
where my theology came from.
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The devil is in the
center of the earth and he is
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making sure all the
sinners cook appropriately.
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They are all down in
the center of the earth
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cooking appropriately,
and what's funny about that is
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you don't find that
anywhere in the Bible.
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You don't find that
teaching anywhere in the Bible,
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but Christians teach
it. Christians teach it
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and you know and then,
those of us who were heathens
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and have come into
the church we believed it
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coming in because
that's what we had
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always been taught.
Now I usually when I
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give this Bible study
I do park on this point
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for little while
because this is the common
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thing out there.
This is like, this is a
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common theology
among the heathen
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and even Christians often times.
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So I like to ask this question
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after I go through
that little scenario.
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Where on earth is hell anyway,
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where on earth is hell?
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The answer is yes,
where on earth is hell,
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the answer is absolutely yes.
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I said what you
are talking about?
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Go with me to the next text
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Revelation chapter
20 verses 5 through 9.
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We are going to go on
our left side of here to
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Do Soung and ask him to read
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Revelation chapter
20 verses 5 through 9.
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And as he is looking
it up and getting there
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I just want to keep,
have everybody keep in mind
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if you want to find
these texts at before we
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get to them, before
we turn to them you can
00:14:06.04\00:14:07.86
go to the website
and download the study,
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and it's all in the
study guide before we,
00:14:09.67\00:14:11.86
that we can kind
a keep ahead if you
00:14:11.87\00:14:13.89
want to keep up
with what we are doing.
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So Do Soung, Revelation
chapter 20 verses 5-9.
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We are going to be
answering the question,
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where on earth
is hell? Go ahead.
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But the rest of the
dead lived not again until
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the thousand
years were finished.
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This is the first resurrection.
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Blessed and holy is he
that has part in the first
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resurrection: on such the
second death has no power,
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but they shall be
priests of God and of Christ,
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and shall reign with
him a thousand years.
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And when the
thousand years are expired,
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Satan shall be
loosed out of his prison,
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and shall go out
to deceive the nations
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which are in the four
quarters of the earth,
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Gog and Magog, to
gather them together to battle:
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the number of whom is
as the sand of the sea.
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And they went up on
the breadth of the earth,
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and compassed the
camp of the saints about,
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and the beloved city:
and fire came down from
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God out of
heaven, and devoured them.
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Oh it's a very
interesting statement isn't?
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So what you find
here is this great battle,
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you have, you have the
whole context of all that text
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I could actually park
on this and preach a sermon
00:15:18.55\00:15:20.37
from this from
verses 5 through 9,
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but I will refrain myself,
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I will try to resist
best I can but you will
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notice here says this is
a first resurrection blessed
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and holy if he has part
in the first resurrection.
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So if you are in a
first resurrection you are to
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be happy why
because it says on him
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the second death
has no power, right.
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But then there is
a second resurrection
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and what happens
to those who come up
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in a second
resurrection according to
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what we look at in this text.
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What happens in a
second resurrection,
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does anybody want
to take a stab at it.
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They are cast into
the lake of fire, right.
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And look what happens to
them in the lake of fire,
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verse 9 what happens to
them, they are devoured.
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Now you understand what the word
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devoured means,
right. You will notice that
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all through the Bible
you have nothing in the Bible
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anywhere that promises
the wicked eternal life.
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As matter of fact,
what you find out it
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happens to the
wicked and the Bible says
00:16:04.50\00:16:05.88
they are devour or
they are destroyed.
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Now if you don't know
devour is, I can give you,
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I can give you a
little clue and a kind of give
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you little help it
help you understand.
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After we get done in
class today, if you wanna
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take me out to
Taco Bell for lunch,
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I can show you what devoured is.
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Right, when I eat that
food, it will be gone in
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no time, I will do it
pretty quickly, right?
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And you will never see it again,
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and it's gone it's devoured,
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and so to have an
idea that the wicked keep
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right on living,
and living and living
00:16:31.44\00:16:32.60
you know in the fires
of hell, when the Bible
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says in Revelation
12:9 here and other places
00:16:35.26\00:16:38.17
that we are gonna look at,
00:16:38.18\00:16:39.15
that he actually devour them,
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okay so they are
devoured, that's what happens
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to the wicked and
where does it happen at?
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Where did it say it happens?
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On the earth, so the
answer to the question is
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the wicked are
devoured, where is hell at?
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On the earth,
interesting statement isn't it?
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Had you ever heard that before?
00:16:59.26\00:17:00.32
I know mostly you
have probably heard that,
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but there are
other people sitting,
00:17:02.27\00:17:03.33
probably some people
sitting at home right now
00:17:03.34\00:17:05.13
and say what?
Hell is on the earth,
00:17:05.14\00:17:06.96
right that's the
question many people ask,
00:17:08.12\00:17:09.41
but according to
Bible what we looked at
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so far that's
exactly what takes place.
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Now as we go on to
the next text I probably
00:17:14.35\00:17:16.17
got way behind
myself, because I should
00:17:16.18\00:17:17.38
already had
Revelation 25 verse 9 on there.
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So, I'll just throw
up on the screen just
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for a minute, so they
can see what it looks like.
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The Destruction of the
Wicked, the third verse
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there Revelation
20 verse 5 throgh 9.
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And now as we are finishing up
00:17:27.79\00:17:30.42
with Revelation 20:5 through 9
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as we go to the next text.
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The question we
are gonna ask now,
00:17:33.54\00:17:35.27
where on earth is hell?
00:17:35.28\00:17:36.77
We know where on earth hell is,
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its on earth, but
when it's gonna take place,
00:17:39.64\00:17:41.72
because obviously if
hell is gonna be on earth,
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it's not here now
although some people
00:17:45.39\00:17:48.36
might disagree with
that. Getting my life right,
00:17:48.37\00:17:51.23
but the actual literal
meaning of hell with the
00:17:51.24\00:17:54.25
burning of the fire
and things like that,
00:17:54.26\00:17:55.90
the Bible teaches
that it's gonna be here but
00:17:55.91\00:17:58.30
when its gonna
place and that's what
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we are gonna be answering now.
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As we go to Job
chapter 21 and verse 30.
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Job 21:30 that's the
and then you will see
00:18:05.04\00:18:09.29
often the side of that
when you look at the screen
00:18:09.30\00:18:12.08
here that they also
have, 2 Peter 3:4-7,
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both text
basically say the same thing.
00:18:14.40\00:18:16.68
And so usually
when I give the study
00:18:16.69\00:18:19.83
I will go to both
text, I'll actually use
00:18:19.84\00:18:22.17
both of them, but not always.
00:18:22.18\00:18:23.37
So, if you wanna just
do with this way with the
00:18:23.38\00:18:24.70
bracket you don't
have to go the other one,
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but you can if you need to.
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So, Job chapter 21 in
verse 30 as we are going to now
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in Old Testament book of Job.
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You know for those of
you that may heard at home
00:18:35.82\00:18:36.79
that somebody
cell phone going off.
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It's perfectly alright
because they are used to
00:18:42.62\00:18:44.03
hit doing that, you
know people hear that
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they think well there
must be everyday people
00:18:45.49\00:18:47.95
they actually
live in the real world,
00:18:47.96\00:18:49.04
because that's what
happens, Job 21 verse 30.
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You know I was
preaching in church one time
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and my head elder
was sitting up front,
00:18:53.36\00:18:54.65
those of the Mike Mutt
when we get, we will in turn
00:18:54.66\00:18:58.61
to be ready for it but I
was preaching in my church
00:18:58.62\00:19:00.16
one time sitting up
front, my head elder was sitting
00:19:00.17\00:19:01.75
back here, and I was
just making a good point
00:19:01.76\00:19:03.86
in the sermon, and a
cell phone starts ringing.
00:19:03.87\00:19:05.92
And instead of
ignoring it, I just kind of made
00:19:06.63\00:19:09.14
an example out of poor
guy you know I stopped,
00:19:09.15\00:19:11.02
I turned around,
and he is like this.
00:19:11.03\00:19:12.73
You know he is
patting himself down all
00:19:14.17\00:19:15.27
over and he is frantic you know.
00:19:15.28\00:19:16.94
And he finally gets
his cell phone out he,
00:19:16.95\00:19:18.18
he start hitting the
button I said no, no, no, no
00:19:18.19\00:19:19.80
just tell him you are
busy right now you know.
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Anybody his friend
will be calling he will be
00:19:21.50\00:19:23.76
in church on
Sabbath morning, right.
00:19:23.77\00:19:25.15
So, anyway we
understand no hard feelings
00:19:26.85\00:19:31.20
here make sure you
turn them all though.
00:19:31.21\00:19:32.51
Those of you at home
turn your cell phones off,
00:19:33.57\00:19:35.39
so you don't get
interrupt because
00:19:35.40\00:19:36.37
devil is gonna
call you right now,
00:19:36.38\00:19:37.51
keep you from
going through the study.
00:19:37.52\00:19:39.21
Right, he will pinch
somebody to call you.
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Alright
Revelation chapter, I'm sorry
00:19:41.45\00:19:43.61
Job chapter 21 verse 30.
00:19:43.62\00:19:44.94
And the question is
where on earth is hell?
00:19:44.95\00:19:46.72
When this all gonna take place,
00:19:46.73\00:19:48.06
and Mike is he
gonna take place now,
00:19:48.07\00:19:49.69
or just some time in the future,
00:19:49.70\00:19:51.02
I want you to let us know.
00:19:51.03\00:19:52.00
Alright, that the
wicked is reserved
00:19:52.01\00:19:54.47
to the day of destruction?
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They shall be brought
forth to the day of wrath.
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Oh, so it's
interesting, that Job says
00:19:59.35\00:20:01.05
that the wicked are reserved,
00:20:01.06\00:20:03.54
in other words are kept in
a holding place until when?
00:20:03.55\00:20:05.58
The day of destruction,
so there is gonna be a day,
00:20:05.59\00:20:09.11
the God is gonna
do what to the wicked?
00:20:09.12\00:20:10.82
Destroy them
isn't that interesting,
00:20:11.65\00:20:13.47
the context of the text
there, Job is writing here,
00:20:13.48\00:20:16.84
Job is like the
oldest book in the Bible
00:20:16.85\00:20:17.99
we understand, and you
know his whole infliction
00:20:18.00\00:20:20.84
everything he went through,
and God's comforting him
00:20:20.85\00:20:22.79
saying Job you may
think that the wicked
00:20:22.80\00:20:25.00
are getting over
something right now,
00:20:25.01\00:20:26.13
but don't worry they
are too gonna pass on
00:20:26.14\00:20:28.57
and they are gonna
be held, they are gonna
00:20:28.58\00:20:30.61
be waiting until
the day of destruction,
00:20:30.62\00:20:32.10
and God is gonna bring
them forth for that purpose,
00:20:32.11\00:20:34.55
for destruction,
right? Now we can also find
00:20:34.56\00:20:40.28
in the New Testament
text refer to the same thing
00:20:40.29\00:20:41.95
and we will go ahead
and hit that for doing
00:20:41.96\00:20:43.58
the study right now
and see what says in
00:20:43.59\00:20:44.82
2 Peter chapter 3, I
will go ahead and read that,
00:20:44.83\00:20:46.85
when I will get to 2
Peter the 3rd chapter.
00:20:46.86\00:20:48.51
Still the same
slide up on the screen
00:20:49.71\00:20:51.31
and we are
gonna look at verse 4.
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Peter prophesying
down into the last days
00:20:56.36\00:20:59.25
of this earth
history, and he says something
00:20:59.26\00:21:00.61
is gonna be taking
place at that time.
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There is gonna be
people saying I will
00:21:03.58\00:21:05.83
give you just a
minute to get there.
00:21:05.84\00:21:07.01
2 Peter chapter 3 verse 4
says, they will be saying,
00:21:07.02\00:21:11.22
Where is the
promise of his coming?
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For since the
fathers fell asleep,
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all things continue as
they have from the beginning
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of the creation the Bible says.
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For this they are
willingly ignorant of,
00:21:22.99\00:21:24.67
that by the word of
God the heavens of old,
00:21:25.89\00:21:28.00
and then the earth
standing out of the water
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and in the water.
Whereby the world that then was
00:21:32.70\00:21:35.37
being overflowed
with water perished.
00:21:35.38\00:21:38.25
So, he first of all
he says you know back
00:21:38.26\00:21:39.88
in the days of the
flood, the earth the people
00:21:39.89\00:21:42.25
that was living
back then, ended up being
00:21:42.26\00:21:44.03
destroyed by
water they perished,
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what happened to them?
00:21:45.47\00:21:46.44
They perished, and look
what it says in the next verse.
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But the heavens and
the earth, which are now,
00:21:49.00\00:21:51.32
by the same word
kept in store, reserved,
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just like Job said
the reserved right,
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unto fire against
the day of judgment
00:21:55.73\00:21:58.56
and the
perdition of ungodly men.
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You know what
the term perdition of
00:22:01.23\00:22:02.82
ungodly men means right?
00:22:02.83\00:22:04.05
And he is the destruction,
got to do away with them.
00:22:04.06\00:22:05.89
So, we are
according to Peter here
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what about the wicked?
00:22:08.60\00:22:09.95
What he say about the
wicked is gonna happen
00:22:09.96\00:22:11.32
to them, are they
being destroyed right now
00:22:11.33\00:22:12.48
according to Peter?
What's he say about them?
00:22:12.49\00:22:14.67
They are reserved
until the day of perdition
00:22:14.68\00:22:17.84
of the day of judgment
when they are destroyed.
00:22:17.85\00:22:19.63
So, just like the
people on days of Noah
00:22:19.64\00:22:21.98
they perished in the water right
00:22:21.99\00:22:24.23
that's what the Bible says?
00:22:24.24\00:22:25.21
Also when you look on
into the days of our day
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and the day of
judgment they are gonna be
00:22:29.06\00:22:31.12
destroyed with what?
With fire exactly right,
00:22:31.13\00:22:34.36
so they are gonna be
destroyed in the fire of hell.
00:22:34.37\00:22:36.25
So, we had find here
twice now the term destruction
00:22:36.26\00:22:39.60
or being destroyed the reserved
00:22:39.61\00:22:40.80
and to be destroyed. And
again we are gonna go ahead
00:22:40.81\00:22:44.85
and make the point,
that no where in the Bible,
00:22:44.86\00:22:47.80
I will just challenge you
to find the one text for me
00:22:47.81\00:22:50.32
where God promises
the wicked eternal life?
00:22:50.33\00:22:52.32
The wicked's promise
to them is destruction,
00:22:53.29\00:22:56.10
as a matter of
fact the simplest text
00:22:56.11\00:22:57.82
and the most basic text,
and almost like everybody
00:22:57.83\00:23:00.40
in the whole Bible knows,
00:23:00.41\00:23:01.38
everybody in the
Bible knows a certain text.
00:23:01.39\00:23:02.95
I mean anybody has
ever heard of the Bible
00:23:02.96\00:23:04.77
know certain text.
If you have ever watch a
00:23:04.78\00:23:06.50
football game or
baseball game on television.
00:23:06.51\00:23:08.56
One text do you often
see in the background,
00:23:08.57\00:23:11.81
somebody hold the sign
and hang it off the banners,
00:23:11.82\00:23:14.37
what do you
see? John 3:16 right?
00:23:14.38\00:23:16.98
That text right there is
one of the most powerful text
00:23:16.99\00:23:19.29
approved that the wicked
do not have eternal life.
00:23:19.30\00:23:21.34
Now some people say, well I know
00:23:21.35\00:23:23.15
the wicked don't
have eternal life.
00:23:23.16\00:23:24.19
But I want you to think
for this conclusion you have.
00:23:24.20\00:23:27.21
If you insist the
wicked burn for ever in hell,
00:23:27.22\00:23:30.15
then what you are also
insisting that the wicked
00:23:30.16\00:23:32.36
have eternal life, and the
Bible doesn't promise that,
00:23:32.37\00:23:35.40
look when now we
go to slide here now.
00:23:35.41\00:23:37.83
John 3:16, so
we're on the fifth text
00:23:37.84\00:23:40.79
under the structure
of the wicked John 3:16
00:23:40.80\00:23:42.69
and we gonna find out now
00:23:44.26\00:23:45.23
that the wicked
don't have eternal life.
00:23:45.24\00:23:48.44
Now I see by
turning in the Bible surely
00:23:48.45\00:23:51.03
don't have to turn your
Bible to quote this one.
00:23:51.04\00:23:52.43
Alright who would
like to have the privilege
00:23:52.44\00:23:55.28
of quoting the text John 3:16?
00:23:55.29\00:23:57.45
Alright you are gonna do for us,
00:23:57.46\00:23:59.13
you are gonna
quote for us John 3:16?
00:23:59.14\00:24:00.63
Okay, before you do that,
well go ahead do right now
00:24:00.64\00:24:05.69
Vanessa you are
ready to read John 3:16?
00:24:05.70\00:24:07.67
Yeah, okay you
cannot use your Bible, okay,
00:24:07.68\00:24:11.22
I know, you cannot
use your Bible, alright
00:24:11.23\00:24:12.40
For God so loved the
world, that he gave his only
00:24:12.90\00:24:15.61
begotten Son, that
whoever believes in Him
00:24:15.62\00:24:18.24
shall not perish, but
have everlasting life.
00:24:18.25\00:24:20.82
Okay, who believe in
him shall not be what?
00:24:20.83\00:24:22.99
Perish. But, have
what? Everlasting life.
00:24:23.00\00:24:25.94
Okay, according to
Jesus himself Vanessa
00:24:25.95\00:24:27.62
according to Jesus
what's the two options you have?
00:24:27.63\00:24:30.50
Come on now,
what's the two options
00:24:30.51\00:24:33.01
you just said
them, you just said them
00:24:33.02\00:24:34.11
the two options the wicked will?
00:24:34.12\00:24:35.24
Perish, the righteous
will? Have everlasting life.
00:24:35.25\00:24:38.26
Two options and
who is speaking here
00:24:38.27\00:24:39.62
tell me who is speaking,
00:24:39.63\00:24:40.60
it's red in your
Bible who is speaking?
00:24:40.61\00:24:41.90
Jesus, Jesus is speaking.
00:24:41.91\00:24:42.88
So, Jesus himself as
He speaks to His disciples
00:24:42.89\00:24:45.36
as He speaks to the
whole world basically right,
00:24:45.37\00:24:47.22
you find the text written there,
00:24:47.23\00:24:49.02
Jesus says the
two options are this,
00:24:49.03\00:24:50.73
perishing or everlasting life.
00:24:50.74\00:24:53.56
You know this would
have been a great time
00:24:53.57\00:24:55.64
for Jesus to say
something like this.
00:24:55.65\00:24:57.52
The option here is for
those, let me read quote
00:24:57.53\00:25:01.50
John 3:16 in context
of much of Christianity,
00:25:01.51\00:25:04.10
and much of teaching today,
00:25:04.11\00:25:05.08
what I used to believe.
00:25:05.09\00:25:06.25
For God so loved the world,
00:25:06.26\00:25:07.40
that he gave his
only begotten Son,
00:25:07.41\00:25:08.50
that whoever believes in him
00:25:08.51\00:25:09.65
shall not have
everlasting life in hell,
00:25:09.66\00:25:11.14
but have
everlasting life in heaven.
00:25:11.15\00:25:12.70
Would it had
been appropriate time
00:25:12.71\00:25:14.93
for him to say that,
00:25:14.94\00:25:15.91
would have been good
for him to say right there,
00:25:15.92\00:25:17.67
I mean if that's
what the truth was,
00:25:17.68\00:25:18.89
but what he say?
Perish or everlasting life.
00:25:18.90\00:25:23.35
That text in
itself is like to me
00:25:23.36\00:25:26.80
when I first became a Christian,
00:25:26.81\00:25:28.72
and I really
realize what that was
00:25:28.73\00:25:30.50
saying that was Jesus was saying
00:25:30.51\00:25:31.67
perishing is
not living for ever.
00:25:31.68\00:25:33.46
But, now wait a
minute, wait a minute
00:25:33.47\00:25:35.84
I do realize that there are some
00:25:35.85\00:25:38.21
text in the
Bible, that seem kind of
00:25:38.22\00:25:40.00
contradictory to that.
00:25:40.01\00:25:40.98
But, here is what
you gonna understand,
00:25:40.99\00:25:41.96
we are gonna go
to this text next.
00:25:41.97\00:25:43.28
We are gonna
address this whole for ever
00:25:43.29\00:25:45.28
and everything, but here is
00:25:45.29\00:25:46.26
what you got to remember.
00:25:46.27\00:25:47.24
Nowhere do the wicked
get promised eternal life.
00:25:47.25\00:25:54.16
You don't have it,
00:25:54.17\00:25:56.16
so if you don't
have the wicked being
00:25:56.17\00:25:58.38
promised eternal life,
00:25:58.39\00:25:59.36
you do have the wicked
00:25:59.37\00:26:00.56
being promised to be destroyed,
00:26:00.57\00:26:02.50
destruction, perishing,
never lasting anymore,
00:26:02.51\00:26:05.92
being gone, right
you have these promises
00:26:05.93\00:26:08.09
in the Bible of the wicked.
00:26:08.10\00:26:09.07
And but you have
a couple of texts
00:26:09.08\00:26:10.70
that seem to say something else,
00:26:10.71\00:26:11.93
one or two
things have to happen?
00:26:11.94\00:26:13.78
We have to
throw out all the text
00:26:13.79\00:26:16.02
and say they perished,
00:26:16.03\00:26:17.00
they are destroyed,
they no longer exist,
00:26:17.01\00:26:19.14
those texts have to go,
00:26:19.15\00:26:20.12
or we have to
understand those texts,
00:26:20.13\00:26:22.69
and the meaning of
them in context of the text
00:26:22.70\00:26:26.70
that says forever and ever.
00:26:26.71\00:26:27.73
What does forever and ever mean,
00:26:27.74\00:26:29.71
and what's it talking about it,
00:26:29.72\00:26:30.69
you understand what I'm saying?
00:26:30.70\00:26:31.67
Because if you don't,
00:26:31.68\00:26:32.65
if we don't understand this,
00:26:32.66\00:26:33.63
we're gonna look at this,
00:26:33.64\00:26:34.61
and we go ahead and
go to the slide here,
00:26:34.62\00:26:35.59
so you can get your
Bibles at home ready
00:26:35.60\00:26:36.57
and everybody else,
00:26:36.58\00:26:37.55
Revelation chapter
20 verses 5 through 9
00:26:37.56\00:26:39.23
is we are going to next.
00:26:39.24\00:26:40.41
Oh I mess up there?
00:26:40.42\00:26:41.71
Oh okay, alright
the slide is wrong,
00:26:41.72\00:26:46.21
so you have to fix that,
00:26:46.22\00:26:47.19
the next text we are
going to after John 3:16,
00:26:47.20\00:26:49.86
was I alright John 3:16.
00:26:49.87\00:26:51.65
Yeah Revelation 14 now,
00:26:51.66\00:26:52.76
I'm sorry my
mistake we were at John 3:16
00:26:52.77\00:26:55.80
and the next we are going to is
00:26:55.81\00:26:57.53
Revelation chapter 14.
00:26:57.54\00:26:58.57
I got to keep up with
my little clicker thing,
00:26:58.58\00:27:00.93
I can show up with the slides
00:27:00.94\00:27:01.91
on the screen don't
I? I get confused myself,
00:27:01.92\00:27:04.30
Revelation 14 9 through 11,
00:27:04.31\00:27:07.13
and we are gonna
address now the whole idea.
00:27:07.14\00:27:09.35
Doesn't the Bible
say that it's forever
00:27:09.36\00:27:11.31
and ever and
ever and if it does,
00:27:11.32\00:27:13.15
we do have a text
that teaches that the
00:27:13.16\00:27:16.56
wicked live
forever, and ever, and ever,
00:27:16.57\00:27:17.86
and ever in hell.
00:27:17.87\00:27:18.84
What do you do
with the text like
00:27:18.85\00:27:19.85
we just read in
John 3:16 were Jesus says
00:27:19.86\00:27:21.59
they perish, right?
00:27:21.60\00:27:23.93
If there is a
contradiction in the Bible,
00:27:23.94\00:27:25.51
then I'm ready to
just pitch it because
00:27:25.52\00:27:29.30
how do we know who is right,
00:27:29.31\00:27:30.66
who is wrong,
00:27:30.67\00:27:31.64
you know how can I trust it.
00:27:31.65\00:27:32.62
So, the contradictions
have to come together,
00:27:32.63\00:27:34.08
and we have to
find out if when we see
00:27:34.09\00:27:36.36
a seeming
contradiction is with the Bible
00:27:36.37\00:27:38.25
or with us and
like 10 times out of 10
00:27:38.26\00:27:41.32
the issue is not the Bible,
00:27:41.33\00:27:42.91
the issue is us, right?
00:27:42.92\00:27:45.15
So, let's read this text now,
00:27:45.16\00:27:46.44
in Revelation
chapter 14 verse 9 through 11
00:27:46.45\00:27:49.05
and Darlene do you
have that ready right here?
00:27:49.06\00:27:51.32
Alright Revelation
14 9 through 11 Darlene,
00:27:51.33\00:27:55.23
go ahead.
00:27:55.24\00:27:56.21
Then a third
angel followed them,
00:27:56.22\00:27:57.61
saying with a loud voice,
00:27:57.62\00:27:58.95
"If any man worship
the beast and his image,
00:27:58.96\00:28:02.57
and receive his
mark on his forehead
00:28:02.58\00:28:05.37
or on his hand,
he himself shall also
00:28:05.38\00:28:08.75
drink of the wine
of the wrath of God,
00:28:08.76\00:28:11.04
which is poured
out in full strength
00:28:11.05\00:28:14.61
into the cup of His indignation.
00:28:14.62\00:28:16.87
He shall be tormented with fire
00:28:16.88\00:28:19.45
and brimstone in
the presence of the
00:28:19.46\00:28:21.61
holy angels and in
the presence of the Lamb.
00:28:21.62\00:28:24.28
And the smoke of their torment
00:28:24.29\00:28:26.28
shall ascend forever
00:28:26.29\00:28:27.59
and ever;
00:28:27.60\00:28:28.57
and they shall have
no rest day or night,
00:28:28.58\00:28:31.22
who worship the
beast and his image,
00:28:31.23\00:28:33.40
and whoever receives
the mark of his name.
00:28:33.41\00:28:37.27
So, according to the Bible here
00:28:37.28\00:28:39.12
what we just read
in the Bible especially
00:28:39.13\00:28:41.12
we get on verse
11 is talking about
00:28:41.13\00:28:42.41
the wrath of God
being poured out on people,
00:28:42.42\00:28:44.18
you know we went to
that part of the text
00:28:44.19\00:28:45.42
and is gonna be
poured out up on the wicked
00:28:45.43\00:28:46.93
and then it says and
a smoke of their torment
00:28:46.94\00:28:48.80
ascends up, for how long?
00:28:48.81\00:28:49.93
Forever and ever;
00:28:49.94\00:28:51.60
and they have no
rest day or night,
00:28:51.61\00:28:53.38
who worship the
beast and his image,
00:28:53.39\00:28:54.63
and whoever receives
the mark of his name.
00:28:54.64\00:28:57.57
So, most people or many
people will turn to that,
00:28:57.58\00:29:00.49
now I can remember,
00:29:00.50\00:29:01.47
I don't know if I'm
allowed to do this or not,
00:29:01.48\00:29:03.63
because it's gonna be
aired all over the place,
00:29:03.64\00:29:04.99
but I'm just gonna be
myself and they can edit it
00:29:05.00\00:29:06.60
out if they have to.
00:29:06.61\00:29:07.58
So, I remember
when I was growing up,
00:29:07.59\00:29:09.60
and I had this friend
I was about 10 years old
00:29:09.61\00:29:11.04
I had this friend, he
went to this Baptist church,
00:29:11.05\00:29:12.82
its just up the way from me.
00:29:12.83\00:29:13.80
And he wanted me to
go to church with him,
00:29:13.81\00:29:16.14
and I like said I
was about 10 and my mom
00:29:16.15\00:29:20.45
made friends with his mom.
00:29:20.46\00:29:21.43
So, my parents were
friends with his parents
00:29:21.44\00:29:22.92
and that kind of
thing. And I remember my mom
00:29:22.93\00:29:25.92
actually at one
time we went for about
00:29:25.93\00:29:27.30
three four weeks in a row.
00:29:27.31\00:29:28.50
She started going to church,
00:29:28.51\00:29:29.66
they invited her to church,
00:29:29.67\00:29:30.95
so we started to
go to this church up
00:29:30.96\00:29:31.97
there with them. And I remember
00:29:31.98\00:29:33.33
one night this is what,
00:29:33.34\00:29:34.34
this is one of
things that may be just
00:29:34.35\00:29:35.39
almost not ever want to become a
00:29:35.40\00:29:36.47
Christian or anything.
00:29:36.48\00:29:37.45
This was the, this
night this one time
00:29:37.46\00:29:39.86
in history it's kind of funny
00:29:39.87\00:29:40.90
when you think
about how your life turns
00:29:40.91\00:29:42.37
and things isn't it?
00:29:42.38\00:29:43.35
But, we went up to
this Baptist church
00:29:43.36\00:29:45.55
and it was a
Sunday night service
00:29:45.56\00:29:48.25
and me and my
friend and bunch of others,
00:29:48.26\00:29:51.58
young ones about 10 years old,
00:29:51.59\00:29:52.86
11 years old 12 of that age
00:29:52.87\00:29:53.87
was all sitting in one row.
00:29:53.88\00:29:55.02
And a preacher
was preaching a sermon
00:29:55.03\00:29:56.56
about the love of God.
00:29:56.57\00:29:57.54
I can remember that because
00:29:57.55\00:29:58.72
he kept on that
love, love, love,
00:29:58.73\00:30:00.04
love all through you
know just love, love, love.
00:30:00.05\00:30:02.09
At the end of the
sermon he tries to get
00:30:02.10\00:30:04.07
everybody in my view.
00:30:04.08\00:30:05.48
Now you got to understand
00:30:05.49\00:30:06.46
where I'm coming
from for those of you
00:30:06.47\00:30:07.44
that are you know
like been in the church
00:30:07.45\00:30:09.71
a whole life and
things like that you may never
00:30:09.72\00:30:10.93
understand what
people from outside
00:30:10.94\00:30:12.62
were coming from right.
00:30:12.63\00:30:13.60
But, in my view
whenever they at the end of
00:30:13.61\00:30:15.36
every service whenever
they try to get somebody
00:30:15.37\00:30:17.33
to come up and be
baptized they are wanting me
00:30:17.34\00:30:19.35
to come up and join their club,
00:30:19.36\00:30:20.33
I thought it was a club,
00:30:20.34\00:30:21.31
you know like my
friends and I have clubs
00:30:21.32\00:30:22.44
we have been in stuff right?
00:30:22.45\00:30:23.42
And so I'm gonna go up
00:30:23.43\00:30:24.40
and they want me
to join their club,
00:30:24.41\00:30:25.92
and by the way if
you don't join our club,
00:30:25.93\00:30:27.62
this is what I
was hearing right.
00:30:27.63\00:30:29.24
Let me tell you
what's gonna happen to you,
00:30:29.25\00:30:31.01
so after the
sermon on the love of God,
00:30:31.02\00:30:33.06
if you don't join
our club something
00:30:33.07\00:30:35.96
could happen you tonight.
00:30:35.97\00:30:36.94
If you go out of
here and you don't
00:30:36.95\00:30:37.92
come up here now,
00:30:37.93\00:30:38.90
something gonna happen
tonight on the way home,
00:30:38.91\00:30:40.21
you could die in car wreck,
00:30:40.22\00:30:41.60
and if you die in a car wreck,
00:30:41.61\00:30:43.23
and you haven't come up here
00:30:43.24\00:30:44.21
and then baptize
that's what they are saying.
00:30:44.22\00:30:45.89
In my mind I hear
like join the club right.
00:30:45.90\00:30:47.94
If you don't come and do that,
00:30:47.95\00:30:49.28
remember I'm just a
kid you are gonna burn
00:30:49.29\00:30:51.99
through the ceaseless
ages of eternity in hell,
00:30:52.00\00:30:54.79
and they reference
this text here right,
00:30:54.80\00:30:56.35
they reference this text.
00:30:56.36\00:30:57.33
And then it tells me this,
00:30:57.34\00:30:58.31
they tell the kids he says okay
00:30:58.32\00:30:59.47
I wanna talk to
the kids right now.
00:30:59.48\00:31:00.60
I want you to
understand what decision
00:31:00.61\00:31:02.21
you need to make here, right.
00:31:02.22\00:31:03.19
He says it's about like this,
00:31:03.20\00:31:04.68
this is true
because it stuck in my mind
00:31:04.69\00:31:07.42
like you have some memories
00:31:07.43\00:31:08.67
when you are kid they
just stick out forever
00:31:08.68\00:31:10.13
do you have any,
00:31:10.14\00:31:11.11
for ever not in real forever
00:31:11.12\00:31:12.90
but you know for
ever as long you live.
00:31:12.91\00:31:13.89
And if you don't let me tell you
00:31:13.90\00:31:17.89
what hells is gonna be like,
00:31:17.90\00:31:18.87
and then he begins to explain,
00:31:18.88\00:31:21.46
he says it's about like your mom
00:31:21.47\00:31:22.45
when you get home taking you
00:31:22.46\00:31:24.44
and putting you into the oven
00:31:24.45\00:31:25.91
and shutting the
door and latching it,
00:31:25.92\00:31:27.62
and it's dark in there.
00:31:27.63\00:31:28.74
And she turns it on high
00:31:28.75\00:31:30.43
and all the pain that
you had its as painful
00:31:30.44\00:31:34.18
it could be and it's
like oh it just the heat
00:31:34.19\00:31:35.88
is so much, but as
much as you want to go ahead
00:31:35.89\00:31:37.43
and just die you
won't be able to.
00:31:37.44\00:31:38.72
You have to stay
alive and forever and ever
00:31:38.73\00:31:42.11
and ever this when
you are sins and you think
00:31:42.12\00:31:44.62
there could be sins no more,
00:31:44.63\00:31:45.60
you still be burning,
00:31:45.61\00:31:46.63
and you can never stop it
00:31:46.64\00:31:48.01
and you will do that
through that ceaseless
00:31:48.02\00:31:49.78
ages of eternity and
then it's like who was
00:31:49.79\00:31:51.44
gonna get baptize.
00:31:51.45\00:31:52.42
And the kids
were running you now
00:31:52.43\00:31:53.40
all the different ones,
00:31:53.41\00:31:54.38
and I was scared
held in the seat,
00:31:54.39\00:31:55.75
I was so afraid and
then we got home that night,
00:31:55.76\00:31:57.71
I can remember being
so protective about it.
00:31:57.72\00:31:59.63
And I was like I
never wanna go back
00:31:59.64\00:32:00.66
there never and
my brother was in
00:32:00.67\00:32:02.08
same way and we never went back,
00:32:02.09\00:32:03.06
we never went back
after that scared me to death.
00:32:03.07\00:32:06.44
And that's what
I thought hell was,
00:32:06.45\00:32:08.57
and I got to thinking about it.
00:32:08.58\00:32:09.65
Even at like 10 years
old I got thinking about it.
00:32:09.66\00:32:11.60
I have been that bad
00:32:11.61\00:32:13.06
and I'm gonna if
something happens to me
00:32:13.07\00:32:15.89
I got to burn for
ever for just like 10 years
00:32:15.90\00:32:19.07
of Ben who I am,
00:32:19.08\00:32:20.87
I mean it just
shocked me clearly,
00:32:20.88\00:32:22.88
it was just to much,
00:32:22.89\00:32:24.47
and so I was just
turned off going to churches
00:32:24.48\00:32:26.57
and things like that.
00:32:26.58\00:32:27.55
That's one of the
reasons that the study mean
00:32:27.56\00:32:31.21
so much to me,
00:32:31.22\00:32:32.19
because I think it's
mischaracterizes God.
00:32:32.20\00:32:35.02
The common belief and
hell burning for ever,
00:32:35.03\00:32:38.32
mischaracterizes God,
00:32:38.33\00:32:39.67
it's not a God of love.
00:32:39.68\00:32:40.66
If he is gonna put,
00:32:40.67\00:32:42.11
if he is gonna create me.
00:32:42.12\00:32:45.29
Did anybody here have
the choice to be created,
00:32:45.30\00:32:47.23
anybody? Now let's
just think about his logic,
00:32:47.24\00:32:49.21
you didn't have choice, did you?
00:32:49.22\00:32:50.24
So, God makes you
come into existence, right.
00:32:50.25\00:32:53.19
He gives you only a
limited space and time
00:32:53.20\00:32:55.41
on this planet
of this earth right.
00:32:55.42\00:32:57.08
And you make wrong decisions
00:32:57.09\00:32:58.72
and you don't ever
learn to love his son
00:32:58.73\00:33:01.33
and appreciate the
sacrifices been made,
00:33:01.34\00:33:03.16
you never learned
any of these things.
00:33:03.17\00:33:04.39
And then on top of
that because of you
00:33:04.40\00:33:07.74
never learning to appreciate
00:33:07.75\00:33:08.74
that you are gonna die,
00:33:08.75\00:33:10.24
and then you are
gonna spend the ceaseless
00:33:10.25\00:33:11.90
ages of
eternity burning in hell.
00:33:11.91\00:33:13.28
I'm like you know I
won't to do that to my kids,
00:33:13.29\00:33:17.60
I mean look like
Loren and I came together
00:33:17.61\00:33:20.27
they didn't have
choice but come in this earth,
00:33:20.28\00:33:21.71
he procreated right
we have our kids there.
00:33:21.72\00:33:23.19
And because my
kids had been really,
00:33:23.20\00:33:24.57
really bad I'm gonna
spank them for how long,
00:33:24.58\00:33:26.27
forever? No it
never makes sense to me.
00:33:26.28\00:33:30.15
Christianity this
one of the things,
00:33:30.16\00:33:32.77
it was a hang up for me,
00:33:32.78\00:33:33.75
because they
never really make sense.
00:33:33.76\00:33:35.03
Now there are
some people out there
00:33:35.04\00:33:36.58
right now probably at home like
00:33:36.59\00:33:38.09
jumping up down
yelling at the TV
00:33:38.10\00:33:39.52
but it says forever,
00:33:39.53\00:33:40.50
but it says forever you know
00:33:40.51\00:33:42.25
I felt like this some times
00:33:42.26\00:33:43.28
when I watch somebody on TV
00:33:43.29\00:33:44.65
or hear him on
the radio you know.
00:33:44.66\00:33:46.15
But let's find
out what it means.
00:33:46.16\00:33:48.37
Remember Jesus says
they are gonna perish,
00:33:48.38\00:33:50.75
the smoke of
their torment ascend up
00:33:50.76\00:33:53.08
forever and ever.
00:33:53.09\00:33:54.06
You will notice here,
00:33:54.07\00:33:55.04
it doesn't say the
people live for ever and ever
00:33:55.05\00:33:56.17
for we go any further.
00:33:56.18\00:33:57.76
The smoke of
their torment ascend
00:33:57.77\00:33:58.74
with that forever and ever.
00:33:58.75\00:33:59.72
No rest they have day or night.
00:33:59.73\00:34:00.71
So, how does, how
can we explain this,
00:34:00.72\00:34:03.06
let us look in
other places in the Bible
00:34:03.07\00:34:04.83
where the term forever is used,
00:34:04.84\00:34:06.35
and see if
there is certain times
00:34:06.36\00:34:09.31
in the Bible that
use the term forever,
00:34:09.32\00:34:10.89
but it just means for
indefinite period of time.
00:34:10.90\00:34:13.30
You have been to Wal-Mart,
00:34:13.31\00:34:14.97
and everybody has
been to Wal-Mart of course,
00:34:14.98\00:34:17.64
you have been to
Wal-Mart and you say
00:34:17.65\00:34:18.94
man I think like that
place is so packed out
00:34:18.95\00:34:21.26
I had to wait in line for ever.
00:34:21.27\00:34:22.42
Did you wait in line for ever?
00:34:22.43\00:34:24.18
No, you waited in line
what seem like for ever,
00:34:24.19\00:34:26.57
but eventually
you got to the line
00:34:26.58\00:34:27.55
didn't you because
you here now, right.
00:34:27.56\00:34:29.67
So, let us look now at
the text Isaiah chapter 34
00:34:29.68\00:34:32.70
verses 8 through 10,
00:34:32.71\00:34:34.10
Isaiah chapter 34
verses 8 through 10,
00:34:34.11\00:34:35.97
and I think we will have Jessica
00:34:35.98\00:34:38.81
here read that.
Can you read that
00:34:38.82\00:34:40.52
for us Jessica in the
middle and the back here,
00:34:40.53\00:34:42.17
Isaiah 34 verses 8 through 10,
00:34:42.18\00:34:45.40
let me get there myself hold on,
00:34:45.41\00:34:47.88
I wanna get there myself,
00:34:47.89\00:34:48.86
I found that on myself while ago
00:34:48.87\00:34:49.84
I was reading and I
still don't know yet.
00:34:49.85\00:34:51.12
Isaiah 34 where'
that in your Bible,
00:34:51.13\00:34:53.97
somewhere right in
the middle isn't it?
00:34:53.98\00:34:56.16
If you kind of get
in the middle some where
00:34:56.17\00:34:57.25
it's after the book of Psalms,
00:34:57.26\00:34:58.50
Proverbs, Ecclesiastes
00:34:58.51\00:34:59.48
and back before
the book of Daniel,
00:34:59.49\00:35:01.11
got Ezekiel, and Daniel,
00:35:01.12\00:35:02.53
going back to the left so Isaiah
00:35:02.54\00:35:04.29
and we are gonna
look at the 34 chapter
00:35:05.70\00:35:06.67
and verses what?
8 through 10 okay,
00:35:06.68\00:35:11.66
hold the microphone
up to when you read,
00:35:11.67\00:35:12.64
okay go ahead. For it is the day
00:35:12.65\00:35:17.03
of the Lord's vengeance,
00:35:17.04\00:35:18.27
the year when
Edom will be paid back
00:35:18.28\00:35:22.55
for all it did to Israel.
00:35:22.56\00:35:24.85
The streams of
Edom will be filled with
00:35:24.86\00:35:27.72
burning pitch, and the ground
00:35:27.73\00:35:30.29
will be covered with fire.
00:35:30.30\00:35:31.60
This judgment on
Edom will never end;
00:35:31.61\00:35:35.67
the smoke of its
burning will rise forever.
00:35:35.68\00:35:38.81
The land will lie
deserted from generation
00:35:38.82\00:35:42.68
to generation. No one
will live there anymore.
00:35:42.69\00:35:46.20
Isn't it
interesting so speaking of Edom,
00:35:46.21\00:35:49.08
Edom actually I
guess I follow you there,
00:35:49.09\00:35:51.66
follow your
lead speaking of Edom
00:35:51.67\00:35:53.28
it says that, it says that
00:35:53.29\00:35:54.63
they will burn for how long?
00:35:54.64\00:35:56.35
I wanna touch
this again real quick
00:35:56.36\00:35:57.91
there how long will it burn?
00:35:57.92\00:35:58.89
Forever right, now
today is Edom burning?
00:35:58.90\00:36:02.15
No, they were actually
destroyed in this burn,
00:36:02.16\00:36:04.37
they can go
there and walk to they
00:36:04.38\00:36:05.47
and is nothing there
right it's burned up.
00:36:05.48\00:36:08.07
But it says it
it's gonna burn forever
00:36:08.08\00:36:09.77
so when the Bible
says here speaking of Edom
00:36:09.78\00:36:12.20
and it said there
was gonna burn forever
00:36:12.21\00:36:13.79
and ever, how
long was that forever?
00:36:13.80\00:36:15.44
Until it was done,
00:36:15.45\00:36:18.00
you know in
other words now listen
00:36:18.01\00:36:20.13
to this in other
words the result is forever
00:36:20.14\00:36:23.04
are you following that?
00:36:23.05\00:36:24.83
Is not the
burning that's forever
00:36:24.84\00:36:27.76
it's the result that's forever.
00:36:27.77\00:36:29.40
And that's what we gonna find
00:36:29.41\00:36:32.00
with the
destruction of the wicked
00:36:32.01\00:36:33.02
because again the wicked nowhere
00:36:33.03\00:36:34.65
are promised eternal life.
00:36:34.66\00:36:36.26
Now we have
another example in Bible
00:36:36.27\00:36:37.89
another text we can turn to,
00:36:37.90\00:36:38.97
it's in 1 Samuel chapter 1
00:36:38.98\00:36:42.25
and you remember
the story in Samuel,
00:36:42.26\00:36:44.25
Hannah she wanted have
a baby but she couldn't
00:36:44.26\00:36:47.55
have one, right.
00:36:47.56\00:36:48.53
So, she went up to the temple
00:36:48.54\00:36:49.51
to pray and she was
weeping and praying,
00:36:49.52\00:36:51.35
and she was what
was she was wanting?
00:36:51.36\00:36:52.86
She wanna to
make her husband happy
00:36:52.87\00:36:54.54
and have a son right,
00:36:54.55\00:36:55.52
but she couldn't have a son,
00:36:55.53\00:36:56.50
and so the priest
sees her out there
00:36:56.51\00:36:58.59
weeping and thinks she is drunk,
00:36:58.60\00:36:59.75
and he goes out
tries to get on her
00:36:59.76\00:37:00.94
and she says no, no, no
00:37:00.95\00:37:01.92
I'm not drunk you
know I wanna have a son,
00:37:01.93\00:37:04.08
and so she gets promise the son.
00:37:04.09\00:37:06.11
And she says if I get a son,
00:37:06.12\00:37:07.48
I'm gonna take and
give him to the Lord,
00:37:07.49\00:37:09.62
and how long you
gonna serve with the house
00:37:09.63\00:37:11.29
of the Lord?
Forever, let us read it,
00:37:11.30\00:37:13.73
1 Samuel 1 I will
put the slide up here
00:37:13.74\00:37:16.52
1 Samuel chapter 1 in verse 22
00:37:16.53\00:37:17.98
is we're wanna
go to 1 Samuel 1:22.
00:37:17.99\00:37:20.07
How long will he serve,
00:37:20.08\00:37:21.34
and I think we
probably have the Tim or Bill
00:37:21.35\00:37:23.73
either one, who want to do it?
00:37:23.74\00:37:25.22
Bill you wanna do that one?
00:37:25.23\00:37:26.20
Okay 1 Samuel
chapter 1 in verse 22.
00:37:26.21\00:37:29.34
But Hannah did not go up,
00:37:29.35\00:37:33.06
for she said to her husband,
00:37:33.07\00:37:34.47
not until the child is weaned,
00:37:34.48\00:37:36.46
that I will take him,
00:37:36.47\00:37:38.41
that he may
appear before the Lord
00:37:38.42\00:37:40.42
and remain there forever.
00:37:40.43\00:37:41.59
How long Samuel
gonna appear there before
00:37:41.60\00:37:43.14
the Lord of the
temple, how long? Forever,
00:37:43.15\00:37:45.11
so Samuel is he
still serving that today?
00:37:45.12\00:37:46.90
No, how do you know?
00:37:46.91\00:37:48.66
Because he is
dead isn't he right?
00:37:48.67\00:37:52.11
Samuel is still not living,
00:37:52.12\00:37:53.33
the Bible records him dying,
00:37:53.34\00:37:54.31
so Samuel is dead,
00:37:54.32\00:37:55.68
so he didn't
get to serve forever
00:37:55.69\00:37:56.66
but how long
was forever for him?
00:37:56.67\00:37:57.84
Until he die, so
when you look at,
00:37:57.85\00:38:01.82
now you can go actually
into the original meaning
00:38:01.83\00:38:04.39
of the word and
things like that,
00:38:04.40\00:38:05.37
it's very interesting because
00:38:05.38\00:38:06.35
even in the
definition of these words like
00:38:06.36\00:38:08.12
it's like eon and
eon forever and ever
00:38:08.13\00:38:11.10
and it was the term
means like eon and eon
00:38:11.11\00:38:13.47
which mean like an
indefinite period of time.
00:38:13.48\00:38:14.95
It doesn't actually
mean through the ceaseless
00:38:14.96\00:38:16.75
ages of eternity every time.
00:38:16.76\00:38:17.90
Now it can mean that,
00:38:17.91\00:38:19.49
when the Bible says that God
00:38:19.50\00:38:20.54
who is forever
and ever or you know
00:38:20.55\00:38:23.31
the righteous will
live forever and ever
00:38:23.32\00:38:25.15
well eternal life
living forever and ever
00:38:25.16\00:38:27.88
and it having
eternal life is different
00:38:27.89\00:38:30.62
than eternal death.
00:38:30.63\00:38:31.60
You follow what I'm saying?
00:38:31.61\00:38:33.37
You know both are
still eternal right,
00:38:33.38\00:38:35.94
but well it's not
different then is it,
00:38:35.95\00:38:38.11
but what I'm getting at here,
00:38:38.12\00:38:39.41
I kind of stumbling
over myself a little bit,
00:38:39.42\00:38:41.70
let me back up just little bit.
00:38:41.71\00:38:42.68
When God
promises you live forever,
00:38:42.69\00:38:44.81
that's eternal life,
00:38:44.82\00:38:46.76
you do live
forever because it will be
00:38:46.77\00:38:49.66
until that times run out,
00:38:49.67\00:38:50.64
when the time is
gonna run out is not because
00:38:50.65\00:38:53.61
you are living forever right?
00:38:53.62\00:38:54.59
But if He promises eternal death
00:38:54.60\00:38:55.88
will that time run out.
00:38:55.89\00:38:56.86
Yeah you will die
and that would be it,
00:38:56.87\00:38:59.33
you will be eternally dead,
00:38:59.34\00:39:00.31
and so it's the same thing so if
00:39:00.32\00:39:02.14
He promises that the
fires will burn forever
00:39:02.15\00:39:04.54
how long is that forever?
00:39:04.55\00:39:05.99
Until that fires are burned up,
00:39:06.00\00:39:08.60
until that's consumed,
00:39:08.61\00:39:10.52
right everlasting fire,
00:39:10.53\00:39:12.96
and we're gonna get
into that little bit too,
00:39:12.97\00:39:14.23
the everlasting fire idea
00:39:14.24\00:39:15.88
and all that kind of stuff.
00:39:15.89\00:39:16.86
Now we are still
here in 1 Samuel 1:22,
00:39:16.87\00:39:19.20
let us go to Malachi now,
00:39:19.21\00:39:20.34
Malachi chapter 4
is on the screen there,
00:39:20.35\00:39:22.34
Malachi chapter 4
verse 1 through 3.
00:39:22.35\00:39:24.27
Does everybody
know where Malachi is?
00:39:24.28\00:39:25.46
Common yeah last
book of the Old Testament,
00:39:25.47\00:39:28.97
so go to the book of Matthew
00:39:28.98\00:39:30.00
everybody knows how
to find book of Matthew
00:39:30.01\00:39:31.36
don't they. Go to
the book of Matthew
00:39:31.37\00:39:32.97
and backup one book,
00:39:32.98\00:39:33.95
you will be in
the book of Malachi.
00:39:33.96\00:39:34.93
Malachi the 4th
chapter and it's interesting
00:39:34.94\00:39:39.26
here once again
he is talking about
00:39:39.27\00:39:40.40
the destruction of the wicked,
00:39:40.41\00:39:41.38
and how long they
are gonna burn up?
00:39:41.39\00:39:43.44
Malachi chapter 4
verse 1 through 3,
00:39:43.45\00:39:47.05
and Tom would you like
to read that one Malachi 4
00:39:47.06\00:39:49.82
verse 1 through 3?
00:39:49.83\00:39:50.80
Get him the microphone there.
00:39:50.81\00:39:51.78
For behold, the day is coming,
00:39:51.79\00:39:57.35
oh this is 1 through 3, okay.
00:39:57.36\00:40:00.40
You got it you're right on.
00:40:00.41\00:40:01.38
For behold, the day is coming,
00:40:01.39\00:40:02.49
Burning like an
oven, And all the proud,
00:40:02.50\00:40:05.12
yes, all who do
wickedly will be stubble.
00:40:05.13\00:40:07.64
And the day which is
coming shall burn them up,
00:40:07.65\00:40:10.53
Says the Lord of hosts,
00:40:10.54\00:40:12.51
That will leave
them neither root
00:40:12.52\00:40:14.56
nor branch. But to
you who fear My name,
00:40:14.57\00:40:18.48
The Sun of
Righteousness shall arise
00:40:18.49\00:40:21.23
with healing in His wings;
00:40:21.24\00:40:23.18
And you shall go
out and grow fat like
00:40:23.19\00:40:26.39
stall-fed calves.
00:40:26.40\00:40:27.63
You shall trample the wicked,
00:40:27.64\00:40:30.18
For they shall be
ashes under the soles
00:40:30.19\00:40:33.87
of your feet On
the day that I do this,
00:40:33.88\00:40:35.58
says the Lord of hosts.
00:40:35.59\00:40:36.85
Okay you have
verse 1 and verse 3
00:40:36.86\00:40:39.41
both says
something is gonna happened
00:40:39.42\00:40:40.75
to the wicked. You
know what's happens
00:40:40.76\00:40:42.25
to the righteous here,
00:40:42.26\00:40:43.23
you see what
happen to the righteous,
00:40:43.24\00:40:44.21
they all gonna be fat,
00:40:44.22\00:40:45.19
it's not a bad
thing at that time isn't,
00:40:45.20\00:40:48.71
so it's okay,
00:40:48.72\00:40:49.69
you are gonna be
overweight I guess,
00:40:49.70\00:40:50.75
it doesn't hurt you right.
00:40:50.76\00:40:51.73
That's at His second coming
00:40:51.74\00:40:53.66
but look at verse 1 there
00:40:53.67\00:40:55.56
what it says
happens for behold the day
00:40:55.57\00:40:57.65
come that shall burns another.
00:40:57.66\00:40:59.68
Okay what's he is
referring to here, right.
00:40:59.69\00:41:02.76
Look what's gonna
happen all that are proud,
00:41:02.77\00:41:05.11
all the do
wickedly shall be what?
00:41:05.12\00:41:06.46
Stubble, they
are gonna be stubble,
00:41:06.47\00:41:09.25
right they are gonna be burn up.
00:41:09.26\00:41:10.97
And the day that
come shall burn them
00:41:10.98\00:41:13.40
forever and ever.
00:41:13.41\00:41:14.76
Did I misquote that,
00:41:14.77\00:41:16.26
now what does it actually say?
00:41:16.27\00:41:18.21
Burn them up so
according to Bible
00:41:18.22\00:41:21.38
here once again we
find that the wicked
00:41:21.39\00:41:22.45
that will be burned up,
00:41:22.46\00:41:24.18
and the result will be forever.
00:41:24.19\00:41:26.97
And look at verse 3,
00:41:26.98\00:41:27.95
and they shall
tread the righteous
00:41:27.96\00:41:30.25
they go out on the
earth because remember
00:41:30.26\00:41:31.72
what Jesus says
the meek shall inherit
00:41:31.73\00:41:35.74
the earth. So, what we find here
00:41:35.75\00:41:37.40
in the context
here is after the wicked
00:41:37.41\00:41:39.14
are burned up to ashes,
00:41:39.15\00:41:40.13
what do the
righteous do they go out
00:41:40.14\00:41:42.21
and they tread them on
the soles of their feet,
00:41:42.22\00:41:44.34
for they shall be
ashes under the soles
00:41:44.35\00:41:45.86
of their feet in the
day that I shall do this,
00:41:45.87\00:41:48.28
say the Lord of host.
00:41:48.29\00:41:49.26
So it's interesting
hell according to Bible
00:41:49.27\00:41:51.50
we read already
hell is gonna be where?
00:41:51.51\00:41:52.66
On the earth,
when it's gonna be?
00:41:52.67\00:41:54.59
Yeah we know after 1000 years,
00:41:54.60\00:41:59.68
after the millennium
Scott's covered that,
00:41:59.69\00:42:00.81
but we know that
the wicked are reserved
00:42:00.82\00:42:02.61
until the day of judgment.
00:42:02.62\00:42:04.30
So, it's gonna
be day of judgment
00:42:04.31\00:42:05.35
when this all takes place,
00:42:05.36\00:42:06.48
this all gonna fall
in God is gonna say okay
00:42:06.49\00:42:07.85
this is what's gonna happen,
00:42:07.86\00:42:08.87
I'm gonna make things right,
00:42:08.88\00:42:09.85
he destroys the
wicked in the fires of hell
00:42:09.86\00:42:12.43
where at? On the earth
00:42:12.44\00:42:15.09
and then the righteous
00:42:15.10\00:42:16.36
inherit the earth.
00:42:16.37\00:42:17.34
Have you seen that
here in context so far,
00:42:17.35\00:42:18.64
so it just kind of
reiterate to we've already
00:42:18.65\00:42:20.66
learned a little bit there,
00:42:20.67\00:42:21.71
that the wicked
are gonna be burned up,
00:42:21.72\00:42:23.79
they are gonna be destroyed,
00:42:23.80\00:42:25.09
they are gonna be no more.
00:42:25.10\00:42:26.07
Is there any questions so far?
00:42:26.08\00:42:27.70
Yeah we get into
the difficult text,
00:42:27.71\00:42:30.36
so called difficult
text later one in the study
00:42:30.37\00:42:32.55
we will cover that in
the part two of the study
00:42:32.56\00:42:34.42
when we get to part two,
00:42:34.43\00:42:35.40
because there is
ones that somebody likes
00:42:35.41\00:42:37.01
to bring out and
will say what about
00:42:37.02\00:42:38.34
the rich man Lazarus,
00:42:38.35\00:42:39.32
how you wanted that?
00:42:39.33\00:42:40.30
What about the rich man Lazarus
00:42:40.31\00:42:42.07
and here is what funny to me,
00:42:42.08\00:42:43.42
you will find yourself
trying to defend a text.
00:42:43.43\00:42:47.01
You know what I
like to say when someone
00:42:47.02\00:42:48.71
says what about
the rich man Lazarus?
00:42:48.72\00:42:49.91
What about John 3:16?
00:42:49.92\00:42:51.39
Right now the rich
man Lazarus is a parable.
00:42:51.40\00:42:55.91
John 3:16 is
Jesus actually making
00:42:55.92\00:42:58.40
a statement
actually what's gonna happen,
00:42:58.41\00:43:00.35
right. God so loved the world,
00:43:00.36\00:43:02.63
that he gave his
only begotten Son,
00:43:02.64\00:43:03.61
who believes in
him shall not perish,
00:43:03.62\00:43:05.24
but have everlasting life.
00:43:05.25\00:43:06.22
Right the two
options is perishing,
00:43:06.23\00:43:08.47
everlasting life,
they have to go together.
00:43:08.48\00:43:10.79
You can't have one,
00:43:10.80\00:43:12.23
and sets off to the
side somewhat different.
00:43:12.24\00:43:13.68
He says okay yeah
this is what it means,
00:43:13.69\00:43:15.54
and this is what I'm
gonna believe if you do,
00:43:15.55\00:43:16.60
can you see what it can lead you
00:43:16.61\00:43:18.15
that's why the
Bible tells us in Isaiah,
00:43:18.16\00:43:20.46
we have to
study line up on line,
00:43:20.47\00:43:22.10
preset upon
preset here a little,
00:43:22.11\00:43:24.29
there a little.
00:43:24.30\00:43:25.27
You have to take all the text
00:43:25.28\00:43:26.25
in the context to understand
00:43:26.26\00:43:27.45
on any particular teaching.
00:43:27.46\00:43:29.58
Now I like this part very well.
00:43:29.59\00:43:32.19
We finished up here,
00:43:32.20\00:43:33.78
we're seeing that the wicked
00:43:33.79\00:43:34.76
that are gonna be
destroyed in the fires,
00:43:34.77\00:43:35.88
they are gonna be like ashes,
00:43:35.89\00:43:37.06
they are gonna be
under the feet as ashes.
00:43:37.07\00:43:39.27
Now we have understand
00:43:39.28\00:43:41.81
that also the Bible
says that are gonna be
00:43:41.82\00:43:42.79
eternal fire, right.
00:43:42.80\00:43:43.77
Did you know those examples
00:43:43.78\00:43:44.75
in the Bible of those suffering
00:43:44.76\00:43:46.01
from eternal fire?
00:43:46.02\00:43:46.99
They have been suffering from
00:43:47.00\00:43:49.68
everlasting flame,
00:43:49.69\00:43:50.66
the first one here
we are gonna look at
00:43:50.67\00:43:52.05
is in Jude chapter 1 verse 7,
00:43:52.06\00:43:53.66
Jude chapter 1 and verse 7.
00:43:53.67\00:43:55.59
It's on the slide,
00:43:55.60\00:43:56.57
its one the
screen there, Jude 1:7.
00:43:56.58\00:43:57.78
Everybody get there
where's the book of Jude?
00:43:57.79\00:43:59.60
Yeah exactly right,
00:43:59.61\00:44:02.40
you go to the book Revelation
00:44:02.41\00:44:03.38
and backup one book.
00:44:03.39\00:44:04.37
Now everybody knows where
00:44:04.38\00:44:05.35
the book of Matthew is,
00:44:05.36\00:44:06.33
and everybody knows
what the book of Jude is,
00:44:06.34\00:44:07.59
or Revelation is
almost everybody,
00:44:07.60\00:44:09.39
very few people don't, right?
00:44:09.40\00:44:11.06
So, if you go to
the book of Revelation
00:44:11.07\00:44:12.97
you back up one book
you will get to Jude.
00:44:12.98\00:44:14.40
On the slide so
almost done this on the slide
00:44:14.41\00:44:17.55
and I do this some time,
00:44:17.56\00:44:18.53
and I note I
will just put Jude 7,
00:44:18.54\00:44:20.41
right because there
is no chapters in Jude,
00:44:20.42\00:44:23.37
it's just 1
chapter so Jude verse 7.
00:44:23.38\00:44:25.01
But for, so
people don't get confused
00:44:25.02\00:44:26.97
I put chapter 1 which
is only 1 chapter verse 7.
00:44:26.98\00:44:28.98
Sometimes I sign
my emails Jude 2.
00:44:28.99\00:44:31.31
You have ever seen that,
00:44:31.32\00:44:33.23
or anybody got email
from Aerosoft signed Jude 2.
00:44:33.24\00:44:35.33
Look what it says in Jude 2,
00:44:35.34\00:44:36.99
Mercy unto you,
and peace, and love,
00:44:37.00\00:44:39.08
and be multiplied.
00:44:39.09\00:44:40.06
So, I just sign my emails Jude 2
00:44:40.07\00:44:41.62
Phillip right. Now you can add
00:44:41.63\00:44:43.36
to that when you
send me emails too.
00:44:43.37\00:44:44.55
Alright so Jude
chapter 1 in verse 7
00:44:44.56\00:44:47.59
we are gonna look at an example
00:44:47.60\00:44:49.69
of this eternal fire,
00:44:49.70\00:44:51.11
and just we are
gonna have Roberto
00:44:51.12\00:44:54.55
over here give
us in Jude chapter 1
00:44:54.56\00:44:56.49
and verse 7 for
us go ahead Roberto.
00:44:56.50\00:44:58.30
As Sodom and Gomorrah,
00:44:58.31\00:45:00.86
and the cities around
them in a similar manner
00:45:00.87\00:45:03.93
of these, having
given themselves over,
00:45:03.94\00:45:07.36
over the sexual immorality
00:45:07.37\00:45:10.16
and gone after strange flesh,
00:45:10.17\00:45:12.88
are set forth as an example,
00:45:12.89\00:45:16.05
suffering the
vengeance of eternal fire.
00:45:16.06\00:45:21.09
Alright, I'm
gonna keep right on you,
00:45:21.10\00:45:23.44
okay, Robert,
what happened to Sodom
00:45:23.45\00:45:25.33
and Gomorrah, what
did they suffer from?
00:45:25.34\00:45:26.36
The last part of the verse,
00:45:26.37\00:45:29.54
the vengeance of.
00:45:29.55\00:45:32.08
Suffering the
vengeance of eternal fire.
00:45:34.84\00:45:36.78
Eternal fire,
that's exactly right.
00:45:36.79\00:45:38.10
So, so according
to the Bible Sodom
00:45:38.11\00:45:39.97
and Gomorrah
suffered from eternal fire.
00:45:39.98\00:45:41.32
Now, I got a question,
00:45:41.33\00:45:42.82
I wanna ask everybody,
00:45:42.83\00:45:43.87
eternal fire
obviously last forever,
00:45:43.88\00:45:45.87
doesn't it Michael?
00:45:45.88\00:45:46.85
Eternal fire last forever.
00:45:46.86\00:45:48.45
So, today right
now we should be able
00:45:48.46\00:45:50.15
to go somewhere on this earth
00:45:50.16\00:45:51.13
and go to, and go
to Sodom and Gomorrah
00:45:51.14\00:45:53.05
and see them still burning,
00:45:53.06\00:45:54.03
shouldn't be able to do that?
00:45:54.04\00:45:55.01
Yeah, you can't,
I'm sorry, it's late,
00:45:55.02\00:45:57.55
you won't be able to because
00:45:57.56\00:45:58.53
Sodom and Gomorrah historically
00:45:58.54\00:45:59.89
are where you find today?
00:45:59.90\00:46:01.73
The Dead Sea and
they're like buried
00:46:01.74\00:46:04.23
under water.
00:46:04.24\00:46:05.21
Yeah, just kind of
put the fire out I guess,
00:46:05.22\00:46:07.07
maybe they would
have kept burning
00:46:07.08\00:46:08.15
if they hadn't put water,
00:46:08.16\00:46:09.13
if they hadn't got water
00:46:09.14\00:46:10.11
over top of them there,
00:46:10.12\00:46:11.09
but I'll tell you
some very interesting.
00:46:11.10\00:46:12.07
At my Church
there in Louisville,
00:46:12.08\00:46:13.99
I had this guy come one time
00:46:14.00\00:46:15.15
that he was a
like one of those guys
00:46:15.16\00:46:17.15
that what do they
called archeologists,
00:46:17.16\00:46:18.35
they go around digging up things
00:46:18.36\00:46:19.39
and things like that, right?
00:46:19.40\00:46:20.37
And he was
digging and he goes over
00:46:20.38\00:46:23.08
the Holy Land,
00:46:23.09\00:46:24.06
in that place there
is a lot of research
00:46:24.07\00:46:26.51
and things like that.
00:46:26.52\00:46:27.49
And he had this bag,
00:46:27.50\00:46:28.47
a plastic bag
that he brought back
00:46:28.48\00:46:29.85
from over there,
00:46:29.86\00:46:30.83
he have been digging in around
00:46:30.84\00:46:32.03
the Dead Sea where
historically Sodom,
00:46:32.04\00:46:34.52
Sodom and Gomorrah are,
00:46:34.53\00:46:35.97
and it's the only
place on this planet
00:46:35.98\00:46:38.34
that you find this little things
00:46:38.35\00:46:40.16
they're like softer balls,
00:46:40.17\00:46:41.27
they will be like I
think about this big
00:46:41.28\00:46:43.30
softer balls.
00:46:43.31\00:46:44.28
It's the only place on a planet
00:46:44.29\00:46:45.26
you will find them
embedded into the ground
00:46:45.27\00:46:46.24
and the rock and stuff there,
00:46:46.25\00:46:47.22
and he picks some of them out,
00:46:47.23\00:46:48.20
and he put him in his bag
00:46:48.21\00:46:49.18
and he brought back to us,
00:46:49.19\00:46:50.16
can't find
anywhere else on the planet,
00:46:50.17\00:46:51.29
and that's what interesting
00:46:51.30\00:46:52.27
about these softer balls.
00:46:52.28\00:46:53.25
He showed a video he didn't do
00:46:53.26\00:46:54.98
with all them because you don't
00:46:54.99\00:46:55.96
wanna waste them all.
00:46:55.97\00:46:56.94
You remember this
Darlene you were there,
00:46:56.95\00:46:58.00
I think it was on a
prayer meeting night,
00:46:58.01\00:46:59.44
but anyway he put a,
00:46:59.45\00:47:00.42
he has one of the softer balls
00:47:00.43\00:47:01.40
in the end of the spoon,
00:47:01.41\00:47:02.38
a silver metal spoon right,
00:47:02.39\00:47:03.68
and he takes it and enlighten
00:47:03.69\00:47:05.30
with the lighter and it melts
00:47:05.31\00:47:06.37
in the spoon off just,
00:47:06.38\00:47:07.46
melts it off like that.
00:47:07.47\00:47:08.98
And the only place on the earth
00:47:08.99\00:47:10.57
you can find those things over
00:47:10.58\00:47:11.73
and around the
Dead Sea there where
00:47:11.74\00:47:13.04
historically
Sodom and Gomorrah was.
00:47:13.05\00:47:14.47
Now, you remember that
00:47:14.48\00:47:15.45
the Bible says that
that fire of brimstone
00:47:15.46\00:47:17.21
raining down from
God out of heaven on
00:47:17.22\00:47:18.81
Sodom and Gomorrah
and they burn forever,
00:47:18.82\00:47:21.16
forever, right? Forever,
00:47:21.17\00:47:23.18
they're not
burning today, are they?
00:47:23.19\00:47:25.05
You wonder why?
00:47:25.06\00:47:26.96
Because after the
fire done it's work,
00:47:26.97\00:47:29.70
there was no
reason to keep burning.
00:47:29.71\00:47:31.78
So, it says there,
00:47:31.79\00:47:32.79
now I want you to
know something else
00:47:32.80\00:47:34.46
in the verse 2,
still in verse 7.
00:47:34.47\00:47:35.77
Even as Sodom and Gomorrah,
00:47:35.78\00:47:37.45
and the cities around and
about them in like manner.
00:47:37.46\00:47:39.85
So, also there
were cities around
00:47:39.86\00:47:41.35
about them in like manner,
00:47:41.36\00:47:42.33
that was still just as bad,
00:47:42.34\00:47:43.52
they also suffered
from the same thing
00:47:43.53\00:47:45.33
and it says, they suffer
00:47:45.34\00:47:46.85
the vengeance of eternal fire.
00:47:46.86\00:47:49.10
Now, listen was
the fire eternal?
00:47:49.11\00:47:53.14
Yes, yes, yes it was because
00:47:53.15\00:47:56.34
the result was eternal,
00:47:56.35\00:47:57.94
they are destroyed,
00:47:57.95\00:47:59.28
they are not
gonna be there anymore.
00:47:59.29\00:48:00.73
You know, I like to do this,
00:48:00.74\00:48:01.89
I learn this from Doug Batchelor
00:48:01.90\00:48:03.30
and I tried it a couple of times
00:48:03.31\00:48:04.28
in evangelistic meetings and,
00:48:04.29\00:48:05.26
and it's,
really difficult to do,
00:48:05.27\00:48:06.92
you got to, you
got to kind this make
00:48:06.93\00:48:07.94
yourself in your mind I'm gonna,
00:48:07.95\00:48:09.26
I'm gonna hold on to this match.
00:48:09.27\00:48:10.52
Well, you take
one of wooden matches,
00:48:10.53\00:48:11.72
right and you, and you light it,
00:48:11.73\00:48:14.25
and as you're talking
you're holding like this
00:48:14.26\00:48:16.12
letting the flame burn up,
00:48:16.13\00:48:17.10
right and say now
this is an eternal flame,
00:48:17.11\00:48:18.74
I'm not gonna put it out,
00:48:18.75\00:48:19.72
it's burning, it's burning,
00:48:19.73\00:48:21.13
then you lick your
fingers and you go,
00:48:21.14\00:48:22.94
grab the other end
of the match, right?
00:48:22.95\00:48:25.15
And you hold up like
this and that can finishes
00:48:25.16\00:48:28.11
burning the match up and,
00:48:28.12\00:48:29.82
and so there it is,
00:48:29.83\00:48:30.80
it's all burned up the flame,
00:48:30.81\00:48:31.78
it's eternal I'm
not putting it out
00:48:31.79\00:48:32.76
you know the match just
goes out finally, right?
00:48:32.77\00:48:34.71
Then you take the match
00:48:34.72\00:48:35.69
and you drop in your hand
00:48:35.70\00:48:36.67
then you go like this,
00:48:36.68\00:48:37.65
and all we have is
a little black smooth
00:48:37.66\00:48:39.81
sooty looking
thing on your hand,
00:48:39.82\00:48:40.79
what happened to the match?
00:48:40.80\00:48:41.77
It's gone, will it
ever be a match again?
00:48:43.08\00:48:45.70
No, it will
never be a match again,
00:48:46.25\00:48:47.22
so I can say the
result of that match,
00:48:47.23\00:48:49.10
we see the result of,
00:48:49.11\00:48:50.61
of eternal fire.
00:48:50.62\00:48:51.59
Does that make sense?
00:48:51.60\00:48:53.37
So, the results are eternal,
00:48:53.38\00:48:54.90
but you don't have
eternal life promised
00:48:54.91\00:48:57.55
to the wicked.
00:48:57.56\00:48:58.53
That's why God can
be called God of love.
00:48:58.54\00:49:01.36
You know,
00:49:01.37\00:49:02.98
I think the stories like
00:49:02.99\00:49:04.79
and by the way whenever
00:49:04.80\00:49:07.25
I do this Bible study in a home,
00:49:07.26\00:49:09.52
I usually spend this is like a
00:49:09.53\00:49:12.05
when I have
spend the longest time,
00:49:12.06\00:49:13.08
one I have spend
the longest time,
00:49:13.09\00:49:14.21
because I do share more,
00:49:14.22\00:49:15.19
more stories it's really hang up
00:49:15.20\00:49:16.51
for lot of couple.
00:49:16.52\00:49:17.49
Most people when you talk about
00:49:17.50\00:49:18.96
the state of the death they,
00:49:18.97\00:49:20.48
they really don't
usually have a problem with,
00:49:20.49\00:49:21.80
with this putting,
00:49:21.81\00:49:22.78
with you putting the love ones
00:49:22.79\00:49:23.80
in the grave sleeping,
00:49:23.81\00:49:24.78
but something about
00:49:24.79\00:49:26.37
taking the enemies out of hell
00:49:26.38\00:49:27.60
and destroying them
00:49:27.61\00:49:28.58
it really bothers people.
00:49:28.59\00:49:30.36
You know, no my enemies
00:49:30.37\00:49:32.62
are gonna be there forever
00:49:32.63\00:49:33.60
burning and burning and burning
00:49:33.61\00:49:34.58
it's almost like they have a,
00:49:34.59\00:49:35.56
it's just like they
don't want to accept that,
00:49:35.57\00:49:37.96
right? And so, I
usually spend a little,
00:49:37.97\00:49:39.72
little more time with this
00:49:39.73\00:49:40.70
and I appeal to them,
00:49:40.71\00:49:41.68
I appeal to them,
00:49:41.69\00:49:42.66
to think about
the love of God and,
00:49:42.67\00:49:43.97
and do you have,
00:49:43.98\00:49:44.95
do you have is
your love anywhere
00:49:44.96\00:49:46.00
close to the love of God.
00:49:46.01\00:49:46.98
Do you think you have a love
00:49:46.99\00:49:48.77
anywhere close
to the love of God.
00:49:48.78\00:49:49.91
Let me to think
that God loves my kids
00:49:49.92\00:49:51.73
more than I do, right?
00:49:51.74\00:49:52.90
But yet, if my kids got to be a,
00:49:52.91\00:49:56.80
wanted to grew up
00:49:56.81\00:49:57.78
and like axe murder my wife
00:49:57.79\00:50:00.98
in front of me.
00:50:00.99\00:50:01.96
Right, and go out
and do all kinds of
00:50:03.55\00:50:04.52
horrible things.
00:50:04.53\00:50:06.82
And so then finally
comes a day at court.
00:50:06.83\00:50:08.62
There's my boy, he is
in court there, right?
00:50:08.63\00:50:10.04
He's been axe-murdering,
00:50:10.05\00:50:11.23
I have seen him do it,
00:50:11.24\00:50:12.21
this kind of stuff, right?
00:50:12.22\00:50:13.19
And the judge is,
00:50:13.20\00:50:14.17
you know, going to
pronounce sentence on him.
00:50:14.18\00:50:15.49
And you know he's
going to get it, right?
00:50:15.50\00:50:16.72
And me as the
dad, I am going to say,
00:50:16.73\00:50:18.25
"Well, you know what?
00:50:18.26\00:50:19.23
I don't want you
to just put him in
00:50:19.24\00:50:21.12
the electric chair.
00:50:21.13\00:50:22.10
I want you to take an
axe and axe him up." Right?
00:50:22.11\00:50:26.80
And I want to watch.
00:50:26.81\00:50:27.78
Do you know any parents
00:50:27.79\00:50:28.76
who'd do anything like that?
00:50:28.77\00:50:29.74
No, what would a parent want?
00:50:29.75\00:50:31.92
As bad as he was,
00:50:31.93\00:50:33.33
what do they want?
00:50:33.34\00:50:34.31
Please, if you want to do it,
00:50:34.32\00:50:35.29
do it quickly, right?
00:50:35.30\00:50:36.38
But yet we think that
we have more love than God.
00:50:36.39\00:50:39.34
Job asked a
question at one point.
00:50:39.35\00:50:40.58
I'm just going to
throw the text out,
00:50:40.59\00:50:41.56
you know. Is woman or man...
00:50:41.57\00:50:42.86
Is woman or man
more just than God?
00:50:42.87\00:50:45.96
The question
isn't Job but is woman
00:50:45.97\00:50:47.80
or man more just than God?
00:50:47.81\00:50:48.96
The obvious answer is no!
00:50:48.97\00:50:50.98
We wouldn't want anybody, like,
00:50:50.99\00:50:53.44
even if they kill our family,
00:50:53.45\00:50:54.58
we wouldn't want
to have to watch them
00:50:54.59\00:50:55.62
suffer for even
like an hour, would you?
00:50:55.63\00:50:57.76
Just get rid of them, right?
00:50:57.77\00:51:00.35
But yet we think that
God being all knowing,
00:51:00.36\00:51:03.18
all seeing, all powerful,
00:51:03.19\00:51:05.83
is gonna take His love,
00:51:05.84\00:51:07.19
His beloved, which
He says He loves...
00:51:07.20\00:51:08.95
He says He loves us all, right?
00:51:08.96\00:51:10.21
He's gonna take those creatures
00:51:10.22\00:51:11.26
He created that He loves,
00:51:11.27\00:51:12.34
and He's gonna place
them in a place called hell
00:51:12.35\00:51:13.88
in the center of the earth,
00:51:13.89\00:51:14.86
this is normal theology.
00:51:14.87\00:51:15.84
And He's gonna let them torture
00:51:15.85\00:51:17.39
and suffer there for the
ceaseless ages of eternity?
00:51:17.40\00:51:20.01
Well, we've sort of two
different gods, you know.
00:51:20.02\00:51:24.21
And that whole idea came in...
00:51:24.22\00:51:26.11
It didn't come in
through the Bible.
00:51:26.12\00:51:27.36
You don't find that
teaching in the Bible,
00:51:27.37\00:51:28.45
it's come in
through Greek mythology.
00:51:28.46\00:51:29.64
I'll just be
like little straight
00:51:29.65\00:51:31.95
but you all know that, you know.
00:51:31.96\00:51:32.93
You look at the history of it,
00:51:32.94\00:51:33.91
it isn't come from the Bible.
00:51:33.92\00:51:34.89
It just doesn't.
00:51:34.90\00:51:36.16
And you're actually accusing God
00:51:36.17\00:51:39.07
of something that He is not.
00:51:39.08\00:51:40.05
You're saying He's
unjust, unfair, unloving.
00:51:40.06\00:51:42.76
And I just have
issues with that myself.
00:51:42.77\00:51:45.14
And again, some guys jumping up
00:51:45.15\00:51:47.71
and down here at the
TV at this point saying,
00:51:47.72\00:51:49.70
"Oh, but you
don't understand sin!
00:51:49.71\00:51:51.28
That's your problem,
00:51:51.29\00:51:52.26
you don't understand sin!
00:51:52.27\00:51:53.24
God understands sin."
00:51:53.25\00:51:54.22
Does God hate sin? Yes.
00:51:56.10\00:51:57.63
Does He love the sinner? Yes.
00:51:57.64\00:51:59.87
You understand the point?
00:51:59.88\00:52:01.74
The problem is...
When it comes to hell,
00:52:01.75\00:52:05.13
the problem is
God has a big issue.
00:52:05.14\00:52:06.54
You know what the issue is?
00:52:06.55\00:52:07.52
He hates sin but He loves you,
00:52:07.53\00:52:10.76
and you are connected to sin.
00:52:11.78\00:52:12.75
So how can you
get rid of the sin,
00:52:12.76\00:52:14.95
destroy it, right?
00:52:14.96\00:52:16.83
Does God want sin
that last's forever?
00:52:16.84\00:52:18.09
What's He wanna do
with sin? Destroy it, right?
00:52:18.10\00:52:20.95
But yet He wants the
sinner to suffer forever?
00:52:20.96\00:52:23.53
Does that make sense?
00:52:23.54\00:52:25.24
The problem is you are connected
00:52:25.25\00:52:26.30
to the thing He has to destroy.
00:52:26.31\00:52:27.40
And so that's why He
has to destroy the wicked...
00:52:27.41\00:52:31.19
End the fires of hell.
00:52:31.20\00:52:33.30
They have to be destroyed
00:52:33.31\00:52:34.28
because He has to destroy sin.
00:52:34.29\00:52:35.26
He has to purge the
earth of that problem
00:52:35.27\00:52:36.57
that we have.
00:52:36.58\00:52:37.55
Doesn't that make sense?
00:52:37.56\00:52:38.59
It never made
sense to me to think
00:52:38.60\00:52:42.62
that God loves me so much
00:52:42.63\00:52:43.63
that He wants
me to burn forever.
00:52:43.64\00:52:44.66
I have trouble with that.
00:52:47.45\00:52:48.43
You know. And I don't think
00:52:48.44\00:52:49.65
it paints a God of love,
00:52:49.66\00:52:50.68
it paints a God of evil.
00:52:50.69\00:52:51.66
And so, I know
this is going long
00:52:51.67\00:52:54.64
on this point but bottom line,
00:52:54.65\00:52:56.86
if you just took out
all the text from the Bible
00:52:56.87\00:52:58.44
on the study of hell.
00:52:58.45\00:52:59.58
And you just looked at
done a study on God's love,
00:52:59.59\00:53:02.87
then the study on hell,
00:53:02.88\00:53:05.26
the normal study
that you hear from people
00:53:05.27\00:53:07.62
that you burn to the
ceaseless ages of eternity,
00:53:07.63\00:53:10.14
it doesn't make sense.
00:53:10.15\00:53:11.12
You know, it's like this puzzle
00:53:11.13\00:53:14.17
that all fits together.
00:53:14.18\00:53:15.15
And I am like in confession here
00:53:15.16\00:53:16.65
because we're
running short on time,
00:53:16.66\00:53:17.71
we are going to part two
00:53:17.72\00:53:18.69
and to finish this up
here in a few minutes.
00:53:18.70\00:53:19.87
But I want to make a
little confession here
00:53:19.88\00:53:21.80
and you may appreciate this too.
00:53:21.81\00:53:23.94
All the things
we've learned so far,
00:53:23.95\00:53:26.15
you know, we've
been going through study
00:53:26.16\00:53:28.03
after study and it's like,
00:53:28.04\00:53:29.40
just think about
the truth in God's word
00:53:29.41\00:53:31.57
as compared to
what the Anti Christ
00:53:31.58\00:53:33.82
has done to make a
deception in His place.
00:53:33.83\00:53:36.02
For instance, God is love
00:53:36.03\00:53:38.61
but according to the
teaching on hell day,
00:53:38.62\00:53:42.53
God is not love. He's a tyrant.
00:53:42.54\00:53:44.21
God created Sabbath
00:53:44.22\00:53:46.16
so that we can
have a day of rest,
00:53:46.17\00:53:47.28
a day with God. You know?
00:53:47.29\00:53:49.44
Particularly set
aside so that we can just
00:53:49.45\00:53:52.31
spend a blessed day with Him,
00:53:52.32\00:53:53.81
a day that He blessed,
00:53:53.82\00:53:54.79
set aside and sanctified, right?
00:53:54.80\00:53:56.76
He created Himself.
00:53:56.77\00:53:57.74
But the devil
through the Anti Christ power
00:53:57.75\00:54:00.45
comes in and gives another day.
00:54:00.46\00:54:01.57
And it says even on that day,
00:54:01.58\00:54:02.80
you don't have to
rest and set it aside,
00:54:02.81\00:54:04.17
you can just have a great time
00:54:04.18\00:54:05.55
and do your own
thing on that day
00:54:05.56\00:54:06.75
and you are still
keeping it, right?
00:54:06.76\00:54:07.97
So it's a deception
along those lines, right?
00:54:07.98\00:54:09.85
It is showing that
God doesn't really care
00:54:09.86\00:54:11.92
if He spends
time with you or not.
00:54:11.93\00:54:13.94
So, God of love?
00:54:13.95\00:54:15.94
No, no, it's not a God
of love, it's a tyrant.
00:54:15.95\00:54:17.90
And God wants to
spend time with you?
00:54:17.91\00:54:18.95
Not really, just an
hour a week or whatever,
00:54:18.96\00:54:20.79
then you go do
your own thing, right?
00:54:20.80\00:54:22.84
And you just go down the list,
00:54:22.85\00:54:24.02
and we'll get to the
others as we go along,
00:54:24.03\00:54:25.65
God is law, the law of love.
00:54:25.66\00:54:27.11
It shows us how to
love one and another.
00:54:27.12\00:54:28.91
You know you got the
first four commandments
00:54:28.92\00:54:30.03
that show us how to love God.
00:54:30.04\00:54:31.22
The last six
commandments teach us
00:54:31.23\00:54:33.49
how to love our neighbor.
00:54:33.50\00:54:34.47
And what has the
devil come along and done?
00:54:34.48\00:54:36.06
Oh, those have been
nailed to the cross,
00:54:36.07\00:54:37.52
you don't have to
worry about keeping them.
00:54:37.53\00:54:38.98
Just get rid of them
00:54:38.99\00:54:40.16
and you can go
do your own thing.
00:54:40.17\00:54:42.00
And so you have
the parallels of a God
00:54:42.01\00:54:45.05
of love that wants
us to love one another
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and love Him, he tells us how.
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And the devil
comes along and says,
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"No, get rid of those,"
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so you don't know how to love me
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and love God and
love your neighbor.
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And then this one to
me is one of most heart
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wrenching ones
because it takes the
00:54:57.95\00:55:00.79
character of God and
it turns it upside down.
00:55:00.80\00:55:03.38
You know, such a
relief, you know.
00:55:03.39\00:55:06.50
I'm gonna go
ahead with this one too.
00:55:06.51\00:55:10.33
I guess probably I should.
00:55:10.34\00:55:11.34
I got the news one
time my dad passed away.
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My parents, my dad
never professed Christ
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at all and I
know he's in the hands
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of a just God, right?
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God knows his heart,
00:55:20.92\00:55:21.89
everything like that,
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He's gonna deal with him.
00:55:22.88\00:55:23.85
But in my mind?
Very questionable, right?
00:55:23.86\00:55:25.23
Very questionable.
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But he was a really great guy.
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I mean, when I
became a Christian,
00:55:28.12\00:55:30.27
I understood a lot about
00:55:30.28\00:55:31.53
the love of God
because of the love
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my dad had toward me growing up.
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I mean, that helped
me to understand that,
00:55:33.71\00:55:35.13
right? But yet when he died
00:55:35.14\00:55:38.50
never professing Christ,
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according to most Christians
00:55:40.26\00:55:41.38
where is he at right now?
00:55:41.39\00:55:42.36
He is in a serial of burning,
00:55:42.37\00:55:45.34
torturing and all kinds of pain.
00:55:45.35\00:55:47.00
Can you understand why people
00:55:47.01\00:55:47.98
go crazy when they
lose loved ones sometimes,
00:55:47.99\00:55:49.34
if you really
believe that nonsense?
00:55:49.35\00:55:50.70
You know? But it
was such a relief to me
00:55:52.35\00:55:53.53
to find out that the loving God
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that I serve,
even if he did wrong,
00:55:55.29\00:55:57.52
even if he's not
going to be in heaven,
00:55:57.53\00:55:58.74
will eventually destroy him.
00:55:58.75\00:56:00.74
It's gonna be a reward according
00:56:00.75\00:56:02.89
to as his work was.
00:56:02.90\00:56:04.04
So the Bible teaches
00:56:04.05\00:56:06.18
that hell destroys sinners
00:56:06.19\00:56:08.64
along with the sin
that he was connected with.
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Isn't that peaceful?
00:56:10.50\00:56:12.62
And so we'll go
ahead and go through
00:56:12.63\00:56:15.59
and finish on
part one right now,
00:56:15.60\00:56:18.75
we're gonna stop
here on part one.
00:56:18.76\00:56:19.82
The Destruction of
the Wicked part one
00:56:19.83\00:56:20.85
and just here we'll turn around
00:56:20.86\00:56:23.42
and do part two of
00:56:23.43\00:56:24.40
The Destruction of the Wicked.
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And the reason we
are doing it this way
00:56:25.39\00:56:26.36
is because we're gonna
go through the difficult
00:56:26.37\00:56:27.56
text as well and explain those.
00:56:27.57\00:56:28.96
But I just want
you to understand
00:56:28.97\00:56:31.70
from the point and
perspective of people
00:56:31.71\00:56:33.68
that are living in
the heathen environment
00:56:33.69\00:56:35.86
like I was,
coming into Christianity,
00:56:35.87\00:56:37.57
how God just doesn't
seem right with the teaching
00:56:37.58\00:56:40.38
of hell that you
find around today.
00:56:40.39\00:56:41.84
And so we're gonna
pick up when we come back.
00:56:41.85\00:56:44.99
We just finished
with Jude 1:7 and it says,
00:56:45.00\00:56:48.59
"These people are an
example of eternal fire.
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And they are an
example to somebody."
00:56:51.31\00:56:54.20
And when we pick it
back up at the next study
00:56:54.21\00:56:56.83
we're gonna be
picking it up by answering
00:56:56.84\00:56:57.91
the question, who
is Sodom and Gomorrah
00:56:57.92\00:56:59.80
an example for? Who are they
00:56:59.81\00:57:01.39
an example of? Or an example to?
00:57:01.40\00:57:03.22
Because the Bible tells
us that they're an example
00:57:03.23\00:57:05.40
to someone else,
00:57:05.41\00:57:06.46
that's going to be taking place
00:57:06.47\00:57:07.44
at the end of this
earth's history basically.
00:57:07.45\00:57:09.70
And so if you want to download
00:57:09.71\00:57:11.17
the study guides at home,
00:57:11.18\00:57:12.35
you can download
the study guides from
00:57:12.36\00:57:13.75
www.comeexperiencelife.com.
And you can go there
00:57:13.76\00:57:17.67
and there will be a
little radio link there.
00:57:17.68\00:57:19.41
You can click on it,
download the study guides
00:57:19.42\00:57:21.28
for the Life on the
Edge Bible study course,
00:57:21.29\00:57:23.37
or you can also
be able to watch them
00:57:23.38\00:57:25.56
on line if you're
only getting this one here
00:57:25.57\00:57:27.53
and you want to
see the previous ones.
00:57:27.54\00:57:28.58
And you are wondering
what I'm talking about
00:57:28.59\00:57:30.05
at other times.
You can go to that
00:57:30.06\00:57:31.84
website and see the
studies on the Sabbath
00:57:31.85\00:57:34.58
and the other things like that.
00:57:34.59\00:57:35.90
And be more than welcome
00:57:35.91\00:57:38.31
to join us back here.
00:57:38.32\00:57:39.29
And at the next
study we're gonna do
00:57:39.30\00:57:40.60
the Destruction of
the Wicked part two.
00:57:40.61\00:57:42.61