We're glad you're with us here at Laymen Ministries. 00:00:30.25\00:00:32.08 This is part two of the two part series 00:00:32.11\00:00:34.00 of an interview with Michael McCaffrey. 00:00:34.03\00:00:36.12 Mike is our studio tech, here at Laymen Ministries 00:00:36.15\00:00:38.42 and you'll definitely want to watch 00:00:38.45\00:00:39.80 the first part of the series 00:00:39.83\00:00:41.31 because Mike shares his spiritual journey years 00:00:41.34\00:00:43.45 in becoming a Christian 00:00:43.48\00:00:44.79 and it's a really interesting story 00:00:44.82\00:00:47.01 and how he ended up coming to Laymen Ministries. 00:00:47.04\00:00:48.92 And Mike, since you've been here 00:00:48.95\00:00:50.35 and now you've been working with video 00:00:50.38\00:00:52.78 and the way of the different things like that 00:00:52.81\00:00:54.77 for little over the year. 00:00:54.80\00:00:56.74 What we want to do on this episode 00:00:56.77\00:00:58.73 is we want share with the viewing audience 00:00:58.76\00:01:00.35 about some of the opportunities 00:01:00.38\00:01:01.64 that have made themselves available 00:01:01.67\00:01:03.42 in the last six, seven years 00:01:03.45\00:01:06.11 as far as being able to use some of this "hi-tech" 00:01:06.14\00:01:09.54 things that are out there in society 00:01:09.57\00:01:11.10 to be able to reach different people. 00:01:11.13\00:01:13.25 And you were sharing with me some fascinating statistics 00:01:13.28\00:01:16.52 about the World Wide Web and YouTube in particular. 00:01:16.55\00:01:19.78 I mean, you know, we're on 00:01:19.81\00:01:21.05 lot of different networks with Laymen Ministries 00:01:21.08\00:01:23.31 and you think about with the huge viewing audience 00:01:23.34\00:01:25.27 so when people are watching the dish network on 3ABN 00:01:25.30\00:01:28.04 and these different cable networks 00:01:28.07\00:01:29.69 but what is that you were saying about YouTube 00:01:29.72\00:01:31.83 as far as the viewing audience with YouTube. 00:01:31.86\00:01:35.18 Yeah, with online video sharing sites 00:01:35.21\00:01:37.60 today like YouTube and Vimeo 00:01:37.63\00:01:39.96 and other Christians ones like GodTube or 3AngelsTube 00:01:39.99\00:01:43.13 there's all kinds of opportunities coming up 00:01:43.16\00:01:45.62 for individuals and organizations 00:01:45.65\00:01:48.04 or ministries like ours to be able to share the gospel 00:01:48.07\00:01:51.51 and the three angels messages in a very unique way. 00:01:51.54\00:01:55.54 And that is putting content up on the internet 00:01:55.57\00:01:59.46 so that it's available on demand. 00:01:59.49\00:02:01.00 People can watch it whenever they want 24 hours a day. 00:02:01.03\00:02:03.51 They can watch it 00:02:03.54\00:02:04.57 from the comfort of their own home. 00:02:04.60\00:02:06.62 They can search for a specific topics 00:02:06.65\00:02:08.59 or different issues that they're interested 00:02:08.62\00:02:10.09 in hearing about or learning about. 00:02:10.12\00:02:12.30 And for us it's great 00:02:12.33\00:02:13.71 because like YouTube for example 00:02:13.74\00:02:16.42 we're able to upload videos in high definition 00:02:16.45\00:02:19.66 and there's no cost to the ministry. 00:02:19.69\00:02:21.96 So it's absolutely worldwide free distribution for us 00:02:21.99\00:02:25.52 and that's something that it's relatively new. 00:02:25.55\00:02:28.28 And it was five years ago when YouTube started up in 2005 00:02:28.31\00:02:32.58 and in just May of this year 00:02:32.61\00:02:35.64 YouTube have stated there are some of the statistics 00:02:35.67\00:02:37.95 that said they were getting 00:02:37.98\00:02:39.42 more then two billion viewers per day 00:02:39.45\00:02:43.94 which is the double the prime time audience 00:02:43.97\00:02:46.50 of the three major U.S networks combined. 00:02:46.53\00:02:49.56 That's incredible and the thing that you can tap into 00:02:49.59\00:02:52.44 that kind of resource for free. 00:02:52.47\00:02:53.94 Yeah. 00:02:53.97\00:02:55.00 You know, we are talking about 00:02:55.03\00:02:56.13 this whole idea of digital tracks, 00:02:56.16\00:02:59.43 you know, and how we can give somebody like 00:02:59.46\00:03:03.56 for years and years we've always printed 00:03:03.59\00:03:05.15 these little tracks to give people 00:03:05.18\00:03:06.41 you know religious tracks and things people 00:03:06.44\00:03:08.21 hand them to their friends. 00:03:08.24\00:03:09.73 Now you can give a digital track 00:03:09.76\00:03:11.07 in the form of YouTube video or a DVD and reach-- 00:03:11.10\00:03:14.46 how many people did you say the viewing audience? 00:03:14.49\00:03:17.03 The viewing audience on YouTube 00:03:17.06\00:03:18.63 was more then two billion people per day. 00:03:18.66\00:03:20.60 Wow. 00:03:20.63\00:03:21.66 And then there's a lot of those people 00:03:21.69\00:03:22.95 that are looking for 00:03:22.98\00:03:24.78 different Biblical truths and different issues too. 00:03:24.81\00:03:28.11 There is a video that I finished a while ago 00:03:28.14\00:03:30.94 on prophecy and I uploaded that to YouTube 00:03:30.97\00:03:33.24 and that was probably a year ago 00:03:33.27\00:03:35.24 and as of today it's somewhere around 00:03:35.27\00:03:36.69 I think 40,000 viewers. Wow. 00:03:36.72\00:03:38.71 And so if you think about it 00:03:38.74\00:03:41.05 if I was gonna handout 40,000 tracks 00:03:41.08\00:03:43.65 that would mean I would hand out 109 tracks 00:03:43.68\00:03:45.97 every single day for an entire year. 00:03:46.00\00:03:47.72 Wow. 00:03:47.75\00:03:48.80 Hence, but the thing with the videos is, 00:03:48.83\00:03:51.10 it's also available worldwide. 00:03:51.13\00:03:54.38 So there's people all over the world 00:03:54.41\00:03:55.93 that are watching these videos and you know-- 00:03:55.96\00:03:58.09 The people even in Saudi Arabia or Yemen or wherever 00:03:58.12\00:04:01.38 if the internet is not blocked 00:04:01.41\00:04:02.49 they would stay doing something of these. Yeah. 00:04:02.52\00:04:03.76 They can have access to this solution. 00:04:03.79\00:04:04.91 Yeah, so there is a huge opportunity to reach 00:04:04.94\00:04:07.11 a lager amount of people in a short amount of time 00:04:07.14\00:04:08.97 and that's exactly what we need to do. 00:04:09.00\00:04:11.04 And you know with a track, 00:04:11.07\00:04:12.69 now our ministries has printed literally millions of tracks 00:04:12.72\00:04:15.68 over the years in different languages 00:04:15.71\00:04:17.36 and distributed them like the leaves of autumn. 00:04:17.39\00:04:19.72 And I am still a strong supporter of that 00:04:19.75\00:04:21.66 and I think that's really a great work 00:04:21.69\00:04:22.78 but when you're printing literature 00:04:22.81\00:04:24.37 you know you're looking at fact these track costs 00:04:24.40\00:04:26.15 two cents or five cents six cents depending on 00:04:26.18\00:04:28.90 how it's printed and how big it is. 00:04:28.93\00:04:30.29 But with video and like streaming on the internet 00:04:30.32\00:04:34.06 we have our initial production cost 00:04:34.09\00:04:35.93 which can be considerable. 00:04:35.96\00:04:37.01 I mean, you know, like this one video 00:04:37.04\00:04:38.52 that we just finished its part of the Voice 00:04:38.55\00:04:39.94 in the Wilderness series called Life After Death. 00:04:39.97\00:04:42.32 You know, we had week and half into production on that. 00:04:42.35\00:04:45.67 But you have the initial cost 00:04:45.70\00:04:47.30 but then after that it just goes and on and on for free. 00:04:47.33\00:04:50.84 You know thousands it can reproduce itself 00:04:50.87\00:04:53.25 absolutely for free anywhere in the world. 00:04:53.28\00:04:55.68 Yeah, and then there's also those videos get shared 00:04:55.71\00:04:59.16 with other people too through social networking websites 00:04:59.19\00:05:02.15 like Facebook or Twitter or MySpace 00:05:02.18\00:05:05.26 or some of these things are also new avenues of communication. 00:05:05.29\00:05:08.88 And the really great thing about social networking 00:05:08.91\00:05:12.44 is it allows us as a ministry 00:05:12.47\00:05:14.42 to have a presence online site like Facebook for example. 00:05:14.45\00:05:18.66 And be able to share videos 00:05:18.69\00:05:20.52 with lots of people simultaneously keep them 00:05:20.55\00:05:23.96 up-to-date as per new things they were finishing. 00:05:23.99\00:05:27.05 And it also allows us to have an interpersonal relationship 00:05:27.08\00:05:29.77 with the people that are involved with the ministry. 00:05:29.80\00:05:32.70 So when we post the videos 00:05:32.73\00:05:34.30 people can post comments about it 00:05:34.33\00:05:36.56 or ask questions about it 00:05:36.59\00:05:37.82 if they don't understand something. 00:05:37.85\00:05:38.99 And so there's, 00:05:39.02\00:05:40.05 you know, that interaction too which is really nice. 00:05:40.08\00:05:42.28 Yeah, we've just started the Laymen Ministries 00:05:42.31\00:05:44.13 Facebook account and inscribe, 00:05:44.16\00:05:46.48 you know, calling our people lot of that have joined 00:05:46.51\00:05:48.12 I guess they call them fans on there something like that 00:05:48.15\00:05:50.43 but I have my personal. 00:05:50.46\00:05:51.76 And like this video that we're gonna show here 00:05:51.79\00:05:53.12 in a second, called "Life After Death." 00:05:53.15\00:05:55.32 We post that on there 00:05:55.35\00:05:56.56 and gentleman love to post on there saying 00:05:56.59\00:05:59.47 "Jeff, I really appreciate this video. 00:05:59.50\00:06:01.54 It's very well done and it speaks to my heart." 00:06:01.57\00:06:04.22 You know and the interesting thing 00:06:04.25\00:06:06.22 is that guy is not even a Christian. 00:06:06.25\00:06:08.50 You know or a professing Christian or anything. 00:06:08.53\00:06:10.01 He is somebody I met me on eBay. 00:06:10.04\00:06:11.74 And then be became friend on Facebook 00:06:11.77\00:06:13.31 and they got on Laymen Ministry's Facebook. 00:06:13.34\00:06:15.23 And so he watched this little video 00:06:15.26\00:06:17.02 that we put on YouTube 00:06:17.05\00:06:18.74 and then linked to Facebook made the comment. 00:06:18.77\00:06:21.38 And the people like him like you were saying 00:06:21.41\00:06:23.81 can end up being a directed 00:06:23.84\00:06:24.98 to like at Laymen Ministries Resource Center. 00:06:25.01\00:06:26.98 So by taking a website which we're gonna be doing 00:06:27.01\00:06:29.67 a major renovation of our website very soon 00:06:29.70\00:06:31.76 with video streaming a lot of really cool features on it. 00:06:31.79\00:06:34.85 And YouTube and Facebook and having all these things 00:06:34.88\00:06:39.22 network people can go to our resource center 00:06:39.25\00:06:41.35 and get DVD's or get tracks of books on different subjects 00:06:41.38\00:06:45.03 so it's just really amazing networking system. 00:06:45.06\00:06:48.63 Yeah and that's really 00:06:48.66\00:06:49.69 what we wanted to do is we want to make information 00:06:49.72\00:06:52.52 available to people in a way that makes it very easy for them 00:06:52.55\00:06:55.63 to get to it and also to make it easy for them 00:06:55.66\00:07:00.34 to ask questions or to interact or to find other places 00:07:00.37\00:07:03.76 to find more information about it. 00:07:03.79\00:07:05.10 And so it's kind of all these things can deal together. 00:07:05.13\00:07:07.92 Yeah, I am really excited about 00:07:07.95\00:07:09.47 I think this is just it's great 00:07:09.50\00:07:11.11 that we're doing Russian television programs, 00:07:11.14\00:07:12.97 we're on CNN and we're you know, 00:07:13.00\00:07:14.90 we're on fresh in work in Quebec 00:07:14.93\00:07:16.68 and doing these different kinds of things that are being 00:07:16.71\00:07:18.89 you know broadcast on television. 00:07:18.92\00:07:21.10 But more and more people 00:07:21.13\00:07:22.75 are video streaming through their television 00:07:22.78\00:07:25.58 via the internet with high speed internet. 00:07:25.61\00:07:28.68 And they're spending time 00:07:28.71\00:07:30.01 you know like you and I were talking about 00:07:30.04\00:07:31.60 for instance a person can be at work and its break time, 00:07:31.63\00:07:34.37 and they're at the work computer 00:07:34.40\00:07:35.59 which a lot of people are today boom, they go to YouTube 00:07:35.62\00:07:38.03 and they start watching a video, you know. 00:07:38.06\00:07:39.94 And so here's an opportunity that our religious track 00:07:39.97\00:07:42.55 is there you know on some you know putting 00:07:42.58\00:07:46.24 Bible topic that they can watch right at the break time at work. 00:07:46.27\00:07:48.96 And I really think they were going to see 00:07:48.99\00:07:50.98 in next few years more and more video 00:07:51.01\00:07:52.93 on demand type services like places like 00:07:52.96\00:07:55.64 YouTube that you know, 00:07:55.67\00:07:56.70 anybody can access or even places 00:07:56.73\00:07:59.59 that are accessible to DVD players 00:07:59.62\00:08:02.02 and TV's now via the internet like Netflix 00:08:02.05\00:08:04.89 or it's-- I think we're going to see more and more of that 00:08:04.92\00:08:07.67 because it allows people to get to watch exactly 00:08:07.70\00:08:10.50 what they want to watch 00:08:10.53\00:08:11.56 and that have to be subject to you know program 00:08:11.59\00:08:14.26 where there one thing that they want to watch only occurs 00:08:14.29\00:08:17.10 like once a week or during certain times. 00:08:17.13\00:08:19.02 So it will be interesting. 00:08:19.05\00:08:21.51 Let's talk about the Voice in the Wilderness series 00:08:21.54\00:08:23.45 that's the productions that you came here 00:08:23.48\00:08:25.10 and we have a lot of things you and I have been talking about 00:08:25.13\00:08:27.03 and we're gonna also talking about some of the challenges 00:08:27.06\00:08:28.86 that were up against right now 00:08:28.89\00:08:30.38 but what exactly is the Voice in the Wilderness series 00:08:30.41\00:08:33.30 and what direction that heading? 00:08:33.33\00:08:35.36 The Voice in the Wilderness series 00:08:35.39\00:08:37.17 is the series that we wanted to do that 00:08:37.20\00:08:40.09 what basically cover via short video 00:08:40.12\00:08:43.45 anywhere between five to seven or eight minutes 00:08:43.48\00:08:45.96 covering different Biblical topics 00:08:45.99\00:08:49.04 so that people could kind of get a grasp of 00:08:49.07\00:08:51.67 what the Bible says about a certain issue. 00:08:51.70\00:08:53.70 Yeah, the one that we're going to show right now 00:08:53.73\00:08:55.93 which is about eight minutes long. 00:08:55.96\00:08:57.47 It's little bit longer than what our target time is 00:08:57.50\00:09:00.47 for these kind of videos. 00:09:00.50\00:09:02.00 You used a unique kind of like filter effect on it 00:09:02.03\00:09:05.39 explain to the viewing audience before we go to that clip. 00:09:05.42\00:09:07.40 You know, what where you trying to accomplish 00:09:07.43\00:09:08.93 when you were editing this 00:09:08.96\00:09:10.30 and you were shooting this particular subject. 00:09:10.33\00:09:13.15 Well, in the first part of the video 00:09:13.18\00:09:14.34 this is a CPR filter, 00:09:14.37\00:09:17.27 not a filter it was an effect obviously 00:09:17.30\00:09:19.20 but it was just kind of gives a little different look. 00:09:19.23\00:09:22.25 Since we're dealing with topic of death 00:09:22.28\00:09:25.20 and it was just a one way to kind of separate 00:09:25.23\00:09:28.56 the first half of the video kind of introducing 00:09:28.59\00:09:30.53 the subject of death comparing to the second half of this video 00:09:30.56\00:09:33.37 which talks little bit more about the hope 00:09:33.40\00:09:34.77 that we have of the resurrection. 00:09:34.80\00:09:36.60 And lot of thought and work goes into producing 00:09:36.63\00:09:38.94 this little short eight minute segment 00:09:38.97\00:09:41.31 and this is called Life After Death. 00:09:41.34\00:09:44.18 There's one thing in life 00:10:04.58\00:10:05.64 it's inevitable to all of us and that is death. 00:10:05.67\00:10:09.35 We face it with family member's, friends and acquaintances 00:10:09.38\00:10:12.77 but there's one question that often haunts many people 00:10:12.80\00:10:15.43 and that is what really happens when we die? 00:10:15.46\00:10:18.70 The Bible has the answer. 00:10:28.91\00:10:30.79 In fact, I believe God does not want us 00:10:30.82\00:10:32.94 to be ignorant on this very important subject. 00:10:32.97\00:10:35.78 The scripture refers to death is this way 00:10:35.81\00:10:38.43 in 1 Thessalonians 4:13 it says 00:10:38.46\00:10:41.45 "I would not have you to be ignorant, brethren, 00:10:41.48\00:10:43.73 concerning them which are asleep, that ye sorrow not, 00:10:43.76\00:10:47.50 even as others who have no hope." 00:10:47.53\00:10:53.00 Death is referred to as a sleep. 00:10:53.03\00:10:55.39 In fact, when you read the story 00:10:55.42\00:10:56.90 about Jesus Christ's dear friend Lazarus you see, 00:10:56.93\00:10:59.83 the same picture emerging. 00:10:59.86\00:11:02.37 He Jesus saith unto him his disciples. 00:11:02.40\00:11:06.25 Our friend Lazarus is fallen asleep. 00:11:06.28\00:11:09.74 But I will go and wake him up. 00:11:09.77\00:11:15.73 Then said His disciples-- 00:11:15.76\00:11:18.60 If he's asleep Lord, he will get well. 00:11:18.63\00:11:21.13 Jesus meant that Lazarus had died 00:11:21.16\00:11:24.11 but they thought he met natural sleep. 00:11:24.14\00:11:26.89 Then said Jesus unto them plainly-- 00:11:26.92\00:11:29.29 "Lazarus is dead." 00:11:29.32\00:11:31.85 So when scripture death is refereed to as a sleep 00:11:31.88\00:11:35.79 and that's exactly what happened 00:11:35.82\00:11:37.32 people go to their graves and they rest. 00:11:37.35\00:11:39.31 This reminds me of the abbreviation 00:11:39.34\00:11:41.03 that you have probably seen on tomb stones RIP 00:11:41.06\00:11:44.19 it literally means rest in peace. 00:11:44.22\00:11:47.10 In fact, this is really what's happening. 00:11:47.13\00:11:49.68 The dead are not in the flames of hell or the bliss of heaven 00:11:49.71\00:11:52.94 or disembodied spirits floating around in the cosmos. 00:11:52.97\00:11:56.11 The scripture clearly says, 00:11:56.14\00:11:57.90 "For the living know that they shall die, 00:11:57.93\00:12:00.76 but the dead know not any thing. 00:12:00.79\00:12:02.86 Neither have they any more a reward." 00:12:02.89\00:12:05.41 Ecclesiastes 9:5. 00:12:05.44\00:12:08.03 Today, nearly all Christians believe 00:12:19.65\00:12:21.67 and teach that when we die, 00:12:21.70\00:12:23.03 we ascend immediately to heaven. 00:12:23.06\00:12:24.97 But it hasn't always been this way 00:12:25.00\00:12:26.98 even the protestant reformers had a different belief 00:12:27.01\00:12:29.70 then the protestant churches today. 00:12:29.73\00:12:31.82 The most well known reformer Martin Luther had this to say. 00:12:31.85\00:12:35.43 "In Christ it is indeed not death, 00:12:35.46\00:12:37.92 but a fine, sweet, and brief sleep, 00:12:37.95\00:12:40.88 which brings us release from this vale of tears, 00:12:40.91\00:12:43.69 from sin and from the fear 00:12:43.72\00:12:45.48 and extremity of real death. 00:12:45.51\00:12:47.47 And from all the misfortunes of this life, 00:12:47.50\00:12:50.08 and we shall be secure and without care, 00:12:50.11\00:12:53.19 rest sweetly and gently for a brief moment, 00:12:53.22\00:12:56.22 as on a sofa, until the time 00:12:56.25\00:12:58.34 when He shall call and awaken us together 00:12:58.37\00:13:00.71 with all His dear children to His eternal glory and joy. 00:13:00.74\00:13:05.14 And suddenly come alive out of the grave 00:13:05.17\00:13:07.76 and from decomposition, and entirely well, 00:13:07.79\00:13:11.15 fresh, with a pure, clear, glorified life, meet our Lord 00:13:11.18\00:13:15.85 and Savior Jesus Christ in the clouds." 00:13:15.88\00:13:18.38 When I was younger I used to wonder 00:13:28.03\00:13:29.41 about how people could die and go straight to heaven 00:13:29.44\00:13:31.46 that's already receiving the reward. 00:13:31.49\00:13:33.38 When the Bible clearly talks that in the future 00:13:33.41\00:13:35.98 when the resurrection takes place 00:13:36.01\00:13:37.69 that's when people are gonna be receive 00:13:37.72\00:13:39.12 the rewards or the punishment. 00:13:39.15\00:13:42.99 The scriptures go onto say 00:13:43.02\00:13:44.83 "Marvel not at this, for the hour is coming, 00:13:44.86\00:13:47.99 in the which all that are in the graves 00:13:48.02\00:13:49.58 shall hear his voice, and shall come forth, 00:13:49.61\00:13:53.72 they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life, 00:13:53.75\00:13:57.31 and they that have done evil, 00:13:57.34\00:13:58.91 unto the resurrection of damnation." 00:13:58.94\00:14:01.44 John 5:28, 29. 00:14:01.47\00:14:04.03 If you stop and think about it if people go to heaven or hell 00:14:08.22\00:14:11.09 when they die then what's the point of them 00:14:11.12\00:14:13.00 coming back later at the time of the resurrection 00:14:13.03\00:14:15.06 to be reunited with your body and to be judged. 00:14:15.09\00:14:17.71 Wouldn't they have been judged already 00:14:17.74\00:14:19.19 and receive their reward and punishment. 00:14:19.22\00:14:21.45 The scripture clearly tells us 00:14:21.48\00:14:23.08 that people receive their just reward 00:14:23.11\00:14:25.55 at the time of the resurrection. 00:14:25.58\00:14:31.05 In fact, when Jesus was holding the feast 00:14:31.08\00:14:33.46 He said to His disciples "Call the poor, 00:14:33.49\00:14:36.30 the maimed, the lame and blind." 00:14:36.33\00:14:39.25 Because He said "For they cannot recompense thee, 00:14:39.28\00:14:42.56 for thou shalt be recompensed 00:14:42.59\00:14:44.42 at the resurrection of the just." 00:14:44.45\00:14:46.84 So we receive our reward at the resurrection. 00:14:46.87\00:14:50.33 When will the resurrection take place? 00:14:50.36\00:14:52.30 According to the Bible, the resurrection occurs 00:14:52.33\00:14:55.77 at the second coming of our Lord. 00:14:55.80\00:14:58.30 "For as in Adam all die. 00:15:09.12\00:15:11.59 Even so in Christ shall all be made alive. 00:15:11.62\00:15:14.58 But every man in his own order, Christ the first fruits, 00:15:14.61\00:15:18.24 afterward they that are Christ's at His coming." 00:15:18.27\00:15:21.46 We all die but according to this text 00:15:21.49\00:15:23.91 when we those who are Christ be made alive. 00:15:23.94\00:15:28.27 Clearly we're made alive at His coming." 00:15:28.30\00:15:31.88 Has He come again yet? 00:15:45.30\00:15:47.19 Well, I think the Bible is very clear in explaining this point. 00:15:47.22\00:15:50.30 It says in 1 Thessalonians 4:16, 17 00:15:50.33\00:15:54.29 "That the Lord shall descend from heaven with a shout, 00:15:54.32\00:15:56.99 with the voice of the archangel and the trump of God, 00:15:57.02\00:15:59.51 and the dead in Christ shall rise first. 00:15:59.54\00:16:02.41 Then we which are alive 00:16:02.44\00:16:03.57 and remain shall be caught up together 00:16:03.60\00:16:05.47 with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. 00:16:05.50\00:16:08.93 Then shall we ever be with the Lord." 00:16:08.96\00:16:11.37 So this beautiful promise of Jesus being reunited 00:16:11.40\00:16:14.73 with His followers takes place 00:16:14.76\00:16:16.74 when He shall come in the clouds of glory 00:16:16.77\00:16:19.03 and then at that time that dead will be raised. 00:16:19.06\00:16:22.75 And this promise of the soon coming 00:16:37.83\00:16:39.92 and reward is reiterated 00:16:39.95\00:16:41.45 in the very last chapter of the Bible 00:16:41.48\00:16:43.82 with the Lord is saying, "And, behold, I come quickly, 00:16:43.85\00:16:48.40 and my reward is with me, 00:16:48.43\00:16:49.91 to give every man according as his work shall be." 00:16:49.94\00:16:55.61 In describing death the Psalm says that 00:16:55.64\00:16:58.55 "When a man dies that his breath goes forth, 00:16:58.58\00:17:01.86 he returneth to his earth 00:17:01.89\00:17:03.85 in that very day his thoughts perish." 00:17:03.88\00:17:06.67 I think about my father 00:17:15.47\00:17:16.50 who quite a number of years back died 00:17:16.53\00:17:18.43 in a very tragic accident 00:17:18.46\00:17:20.24 and what a comfort it brings to me to know 00:17:20.27\00:17:22.88 that my father rest peacefully in the grave 00:17:22.91\00:17:26.11 waiting for that resurrection day. 00:17:26.14\00:17:30.25 What a wondrous thought 00:17:30.28\00:17:31.31 that while we sleep in the dust of the earth, 00:17:31.34\00:17:33.83 a time will come where we will behold 00:17:33.86\00:17:36.60 His face in righteousness. 00:17:36.63\00:17:38.20 We shall be satisfied when we awake with thy likeness. 00:17:38.23\00:17:41.76 Therefore, he said, 00:17:47.70\00:17:49.08 "Awake thou that sleepest arise from the dead 00:17:49.11\00:17:52.92 and Christ shall give you light." 00:17:52.95\00:17:55.16 I don't know about you but you know 00:18:23.49\00:18:25.30 it's hard for me to watch it 00:18:25.33\00:18:26.55 because I am the guy talking on this video. 00:18:26.58\00:18:28.84 But I tried to I put on a different hat 00:18:28.87\00:18:30.45 and watch it and just look at the content 00:18:30.48\00:18:32.39 and it really spoke to my heart 00:18:32.42\00:18:33.56 when I saw this video. 00:18:33.59\00:18:35.97 And as we started putting it on Facebook, Mike, 00:18:36.00\00:18:37.48 we're getting more and more comments that people are saying 00:18:37.51\00:18:39.48 "we're going to share this on our Facebook account." 00:18:39.51\00:18:41.25 Yeah and that's great it fits there for. 00:18:41.28\00:18:42.95 And that's the other unique thing is 00:18:42.98\00:18:44.38 that you could not only host one of these videos 00:18:44.41\00:18:46.62 just on YouTube or Facebook 00:18:46.65\00:18:48.39 but people copy it the link 00:18:48.42\00:18:50.27 and then they put it on the social networking 00:18:50.30\00:18:51.82 and it goes to all their friends 00:18:51.85\00:18:52.88 and one of those friends takes it and it just a-- 00:18:52.91\00:18:54.99 That's the idea that keeps spreading. 00:18:55.02\00:18:56.89 Yeah, so Mike, you know there's a lot of work 00:18:56.92\00:18:59.21 that goes into producing these 00:18:59.24\00:19:00.45 and what are some of the challenges 00:19:00.48\00:19:01.78 that our ministry faces right now 00:19:01.81\00:19:03.39 in dealing with actually trying to produce 00:19:03.42\00:19:05.82 like the series called Voice in the Wilderness series 00:19:05.85\00:19:07.74 or even our mission videos here. 00:19:07.77\00:19:09.83 Well, I think that some of the challenges 00:19:09.86\00:19:11.25 what we are running into now are unique 00:19:11.28\00:19:13.16 and interesting compared to challenges 00:19:13.19\00:19:14.98 that you know our ministry may have faced 00:19:15.01\00:19:16.91 like ten or fifteen years ago when-- 00:19:16.94\00:19:19.12 for example a long time ago the cost of producing a show 00:19:19.15\00:19:22.86 and the year that it took, cost of cameras 00:19:22.89\00:19:25.80 and that was extremely, extremely expensive. 00:19:25.83\00:19:28.53 And now it's like we have you know 00:19:28.56\00:19:31.76 very small high definition cameras 00:19:31.79\00:19:34.08 and even cell phones now are shooting HD. 00:19:34.11\00:19:37.19 So it's like all these technology is fantastic 00:19:37.22\00:19:39.25 because it cuts our cost down 00:19:39.28\00:19:41.13 and it enables us to do so much more 00:19:41.16\00:19:42.83 what we could have done before. 00:19:42.86\00:19:45.54 But now what we're finding is 00:19:45.57\00:19:46.95 that our bottleneck is really is in time and resource. 00:19:46.98\00:19:52.41 What do you mean time in resource? 00:19:52.44\00:19:53.74 You know, we got some nice cameras 00:19:53.77\00:19:55.20 but we don't have people to run them? 00:19:55.23\00:19:56.78 Well, we have-- 00:19:56.81\00:19:58.13 you know, this Days of Noah series that we want to do, 00:19:58.16\00:20:00.17 we have the Voice in the Wilderness series 00:20:00.20\00:20:01.67 we have the Mission videos that we're doing. 00:20:01.70\00:20:04.33 You and I've talked about during other projects 00:20:04.36\00:20:06.15 beyond that short or long form documentaries. 00:20:06.18\00:20:09.48 So we-- there's always fantastic things 00:20:09.51\00:20:12.08 that we can do and take advantage of some 00:20:12.11\00:20:13.66 of these new media outlets that we've talked about. 00:20:13.69\00:20:16.76 But the bottleneck now is really with our ministry with me 00:20:16.79\00:20:20.90 because I am only a one person 00:20:20.93\00:20:22.71 and what we would really need to do 00:20:22.74\00:20:24.53 in order to be able to continue our current workload 00:20:24.56\00:20:27.39 and add to that would be to have more human resources 00:20:27.42\00:20:30.41 so that we have somebody else helping us 00:20:30.44\00:20:32.97 with editing and camera work 00:20:33.00\00:20:34.48 so that we can continue to grow. 00:20:34.51\00:20:37.10 You know, Mike, I have been in contact 00:20:37.13\00:20:38.97 and you been in contact with some very talented people, 00:20:39.00\00:20:42.06 people that are in 3D animation, 00:20:42.09\00:20:43.91 graphic design and into editing. 00:20:43.94\00:20:46.33 You know that can do some other kind of quality 00:20:46.36\00:20:49.08 that we're producing right now. 00:20:49.11\00:20:50.41 But what really takes is that it takes resource 00:20:50.44\00:20:52.43 to be able to actually cover the cost of paying 00:20:52.46\00:20:55.46 these people contract wages to be able to help us 00:20:55.49\00:20:57.95 to put out more production. 00:20:57.98\00:20:59.39 We can double our production 00:20:59.42\00:21:00.74 if we just have more physical like you said, human recourses. 00:21:00.77\00:21:04.01 You know, physical body's to actually do some of the work 00:21:04.04\00:21:06.92 because there's a tremendous opportunity 00:21:06.95\00:21:09.33 right now to reach a lot of people. 00:21:09.36\00:21:11.99 And so I just want to ask our viewing audience 00:21:12.02\00:21:14.08 to pray with us about that 00:21:14.11\00:21:15.14 because we need to have some kind of help in this area. 00:21:15.17\00:21:18.19 The other thing that we've been talking about in the ministry 00:21:18.22\00:21:20.42 and we started production on is the Days of Noah project. 00:21:20.45\00:21:23.67 And we're gonna show you just a short teaser here 00:21:23.70\00:21:25.58 in just a second about that 00:21:25.61\00:21:27.25 but what is the Days of Noah project Mike, 00:21:27.28\00:21:31.45 and where is it going and what's all about. 00:21:31.48\00:21:35.02 Well, the Days of Noah project is a project that 00:21:35.05\00:21:37.79 you and I have started talking about that 00:21:37.82\00:21:39.21 we wanted to take the story of Noah 00:21:39.24\00:21:41.82 and compare it to ends times events. 00:21:41.85\00:21:44.01 But in the very unique and different way 00:21:44.04\00:21:45.81 then has been done before. 00:21:45.84\00:21:47.62 Hence there're so many parallels 00:21:47.65\00:21:50.14 and so many implications and things going on 00:21:50.17\00:21:52.62 in the story of the Noah, 00:21:52.65\00:21:54.57 that are not really touched on today at all hardly, 00:21:54.60\00:21:57.25 that are have huge impact on the end times 00:21:57.28\00:22:01.53 and the events that are going to happen before Christ returns. 00:22:01.56\00:22:04.63 And so what we wanted to do 00:22:04.66\00:22:06.07 is kind of bring to life's some of the parallels 00:22:06.10\00:22:09.22 between Noah's time and the end times events. 00:22:09.25\00:22:13.24 For example, that close of probation 00:22:13.27\00:22:15.97 and Gods judgment and how you know 00:22:16.00\00:22:18.20 when that the door to that Ark sealed shut 00:22:18.23\00:22:20.64 when God closed the door. 00:22:20.67\00:22:22.40 That was kind of it their fate had been sealed. 00:22:22.43\00:22:24.68 And so and then the judgment came 00:22:24.71\00:22:27.19 and there's kind of some parallels 00:22:27.22\00:22:28.40 for us now in the future that-- 00:22:28.43\00:22:30.15 Yeah, in fact when people watching trailer 00:22:30.18\00:22:31.95 which we're just gonna show here in a second 00:22:31.98\00:22:33.71 if it gives an idea that maybe it sounds 00:22:33.74\00:22:35.43 just geology or something like that 00:22:35.46\00:22:36.84 but really its much bigger than that. 00:22:36.87\00:22:38.19 In fact, I just took part of the script 00:22:38.22\00:22:40.21 for the Days in Noah 00:22:40.24\00:22:41.35 and just the one part of the script that 00:22:41.38\00:22:43.31 deals with the prophecy of Revelation 11 00:22:43.34\00:22:45.59 and the two witnesses go and prophesying the sackcloth 00:22:45.62\00:22:48.46 and the beast from the bottomless pit. 00:22:48.49\00:22:50.14 And I actually converted that into an article 00:22:50.17\00:22:52.68 that's going to be in out next magazine, 00:22:52.71\00:22:54.98 I just encourage our viewing audience 00:22:55.01\00:22:56.40 if you're not on our mailing list 00:22:56.43\00:22:57.46 to get Laymen Ministry's journal, 00:22:57.49\00:22:59.21 you would want to do that. 00:22:59.24\00:23:00.27 Because each issue that comes out has some kind of really 00:23:00.30\00:23:02.89 intriguing and interesting you know prophecy 00:23:02.92\00:23:05.73 or article dealing with present truth 00:23:05.76\00:23:07.74 that you would be able to be benefit for. 00:23:07.77\00:23:10.21 And it's written in the context of trying to reach a lay person. 00:23:10.24\00:23:13.57 Let's go ahead and run that video clip really quick 00:23:13.60\00:23:15.88 and we got plenty of time here. 00:23:15.91\00:23:17.41 And this is the trailer for Days of the Noah. 00:23:17.44\00:23:20.10 I'm Jeff Reich, I like you to come with me and a journey 00:24:00.30\00:24:02.61 as I revisit just some of the evidences of my faith 00:24:02.64\00:24:05.38 especially regarding Noah and the flood story. 00:24:05.41\00:24:09.26 In its stand way here you can see like 00:24:09.29\00:24:11.04 all different kinds of small seashells. 00:24:11.07\00:24:12.99 They're compressed together 00:24:13.02\00:24:14.11 and this is right at the top of-- 00:24:14.14\00:24:15.59 Let me say here in the goosenecks. 00:24:15.62\00:24:17.59 Eruption at Mount St. Helens 00:24:17.62\00:24:18.83 gives scientist the opportunity to study what happens 00:24:18.86\00:24:20.84 when a catastrophe hits in area as such as this. 00:24:20.87\00:24:23.93 And the water rushed over these falls 00:24:23.96\00:24:25.38 it was ten times a size of Niagara and what is known 00:24:25.41\00:24:28.49 to be the largest waterfall in existence. 00:24:28.52\00:24:31.05 All the water that came flowing down through this area 00:24:31.08\00:24:33.56 went down through these scab lands of Eastern Washington 00:24:33.59\00:24:36.11 and right down into that drainage system 00:24:36.14\00:24:37.77 in the Columbia River right after the Pacific Ocean. 00:24:37.80\00:24:41.98 As Noah and his family came off the Ark 00:24:42.01\00:24:44.10 they stood in absolute horror 00:24:44.13\00:24:45.54 as they looked around the devastation of the world 00:24:45.57\00:24:47.96 sadly they knew this was the consequence of sin. 00:24:47.99\00:24:51.65 Like we're right here at the Grand Canyon 00:24:51.68\00:24:53.30 is probably one of the greatest testimonies 00:24:53.33\00:24:55.24 that prove the flood story. 00:24:55.27\00:24:56.50 The story of Noah and the flood 00:25:04.69\00:25:05.85 is extremely important for us today, 00:25:05.88\00:25:07.68 it points backwards to a time 00:25:07.71\00:25:09.11 where God judged the world. 00:25:09.14\00:25:10.75 And it points forward to a time 00:25:10.78\00:25:12.00 where God will judge the world again. 00:25:12.03\00:25:13.83 The evidences are all around us, 00:25:13.86\00:25:15.77 so much so, that all will be with out excuse. 00:25:15.80\00:25:18.89 I'm really excited about this project 00:25:27.93\00:25:29.60 and I think that this project is gonna really reach 00:25:29.63\00:25:31.93 a lot of different people in a way 00:25:31.96\00:25:33.16 that gonna be a unique Mike, 00:25:33.19\00:25:34.80 because of the fact that is not taking 00:25:34.83\00:25:36.53 just the approach of looking at just archeology 00:25:36.56\00:25:40.30 in the Bible or evolution versus creation. 00:25:40.33\00:25:42.54 But it's kind of the package deal 00:25:42.57\00:25:43.80 of talking about prophecy and the judgments of the God, 00:25:43.83\00:25:47.69 before in the judgments of the God to come 00:25:47.72\00:25:50.08 and how God given us a door of opportunity right now 00:25:50.11\00:25:53.63 before the door of probation closes for this world. 00:25:53.66\00:25:56.85 Looking at where we are at right now 00:25:56.88\00:25:58.40 and the resources that God has given us so far, 00:25:58.43\00:26:02.14 we have got some tremendous equipment, 00:26:02.17\00:26:03.85 you got tremendous talent, 00:26:03.88\00:26:05.32 you know, we're pulling together these resources. 00:26:05.35\00:26:07.68 What can you see in the, seeable future 00:26:07.71\00:26:09.52 that you'd like to see the direction in ministry 00:26:09.55\00:26:11.53 could head into to accomplish? 00:26:11.56\00:26:13.63 You know projected vendor for the next couple of years? 00:26:13.66\00:26:16.76 And while I think ideally 00:26:16.79\00:26:18.57 if we had some more help like I would say 00:26:18.60\00:26:20.84 if we had some more help 00:26:20.87\00:26:22.32 with editing and things like that 00:26:22.35\00:26:23.58 we could easily put out more projects. 00:26:23.61\00:26:25.84 Like I think we could do 00:26:25.87\00:26:26.90 a lot more Voice and Wilderness shows, doing them faster. 00:26:26.93\00:26:30.47 We can continue to keep up 00:26:30.50\00:26:32.28 with the mission videos that we're doing, 00:26:32.31\00:26:34.46 and ideally it will be great 00:26:34.49\00:26:36.22 to have all these things going on simultaneously, 00:26:36.25\00:26:38.81 while we have, you wonder maybe even too big projects 00:26:38.84\00:26:41.60 that we're working on 00:26:41.63\00:26:42.66 little more documentary style projects. 00:26:42.69\00:26:44.93 And so I would just 00:26:44.96\00:26:46.07 like to see as we taking advantage of 00:26:46.10\00:26:48.09 you know this free worldwide distribution 00:26:48.12\00:26:50.92 and this new media outlets and opportunities 00:26:50.95\00:26:52.87 that have risen with technology 00:26:52.90\00:26:55.61 and because and get as much information out there 00:26:55.64\00:26:58.09 that we can, as quickly as we can. 00:26:58.12\00:26:59.16 Even like the Youth in Mission series 00:26:59.19\00:27:01.90 that we have got 00:27:01.93\00:27:02.96 we have video footages just sitting there 00:27:02.99\00:27:05.00 and it needs to be edited, 00:27:05.03\00:27:06.16 you know, and basically we need more help. 00:27:06.19\00:27:09.15 Yeah. 00:27:09.18\00:27:10.21 We just want to appeal to you, 00:27:10.24\00:27:11.82 that if you could help in someway 00:27:11.85\00:27:13.81 to help us move this project forward 00:27:13.84\00:27:15.44 we just ask that you would pray about it. 00:27:15.47\00:27:17.20 You know that we have real opportunity right now 00:27:17.23\00:27:19.15 to be able to use the resources of God has given 00:27:19.18\00:27:21.32 at here at the ministry. 00:27:21.35\00:27:22.60 We just need your help to be able to get more people 00:27:22.63\00:27:25.64 to help us here at ministry 00:27:25.67\00:27:27.46 to be able to open this bottleneck 00:27:27.49\00:27:29.15 so we can double or triple our production. 00:27:29.18\00:27:31.39 And there's several opportunity for all of us 00:27:31.42\00:27:33.06 to get involved in really advance God's cause. 00:27:33.09\00:27:35.53 I just encourage you, 00:27:35.56\00:27:36.77 you know to get involved with our ministry, 00:27:36.80\00:27:38.76 you can do so by contacting us at Laymen Ministries. 00:27:38.79\00:27:41.66 That's 414, Zapada Road, St. Maries, Idaho 83861 00:27:41.69\00:27:46.29 or you can call us at 1800-245-1844 00:27:46.32\00:27:50.09 or you can contact this 00:27:50.12\00:27:51.15 on the worldwide web at www.lmn.org. 00:27:51.18\00:27:55.45