Glad you joined us in the studio, 00:00:30.76\00:00:32.39 I have with me Michael McCaffrey 00:00:32.43\00:00:33.86 and Chris Temple. 00:00:33.90\00:00:35.23 They're two of our workers in the studio 00:00:35.26\00:00:36.60 that are working on the documentary 00:00:36.63\00:00:38.03 "Days of Noah." 00:00:38.07\00:00:39.40 We did an interview with them few months back 00:00:39.43\00:00:41.60 talking about Days of Noah project 00:00:41.64\00:00:43.74 and kind of give you an update, 00:00:43.77\00:00:45.27 and this is kind of like update number two. 00:00:45.31\00:00:47.71 So we're gonna talk a little bit more 00:00:47.74\00:00:49.24 about the Days of Noah, 00:00:49.28\00:00:50.61 and if you're gonna summarize really quickly 00:00:50.65\00:00:52.91 what the Days of Noah documentary is about, 00:00:52.95\00:00:54.95 what would you say? 00:00:54.98\00:00:56.82 Well, I would say the Days of Noah documentary 00:00:56.85\00:00:59.49 is investigating the message of Noah. 00:00:59.52\00:01:01.42 What is the relevance of Noah's message 00:01:01.46\00:01:03.36 for our time today? 00:01:03.39\00:01:05.09 Jesus said, "It will be as it was in the days of Noah, 00:01:05.13\00:01:07.76 so shall be also in the days of the coming of the Son of Man." 00:01:07.80\00:01:10.70 So Jesus Himself pointed us back to the days of Noah 00:01:10.73\00:01:13.87 as being a relevance lesson for how things are gonna happen 00:01:13.90\00:01:17.84 at the end of time, and there's a lot of information 00:01:17.87\00:01:20.18 in Noah's message that I don't think that 00:01:20.21\00:01:22.24 we've really explored a lot of it 00:01:22.28\00:01:24.01 and there's just some amazing parallels 00:01:24.05\00:01:26.01 that we're dealing with 00:01:26.05\00:01:27.38 between Noah's message and the Three Angels' Messages 00:01:27.42\00:01:29.98 in Bible prophecy. 00:01:30.02\00:01:31.35 So those are just some of the themes 00:01:31.39\00:01:33.12 that we're gonna be looking at. 00:01:33.15\00:01:34.49 If you haven't seen the Days of Noah interview 00:01:34.52\00:01:36.52 part one, 00:01:36.56\00:01:37.89 make sure to call in our, to our ministry 00:01:37.93\00:01:40.23 and ask for the DVD 00:01:40.26\00:01:41.60 that's gonna have not only this program on it, 00:01:41.63\00:01:43.57 but also the first program we shot. 00:01:43.60\00:01:45.80 A lot of really good clips taken out of the documentary 00:01:45.83\00:01:48.80 that are part of the finished product 00:01:48.84\00:01:50.17 that shows some really phenomenal video footage 00:01:50.21\00:01:52.41 and kind of gives you an idea of what the video is about, 00:01:52.44\00:01:55.01 but, Chris, as you've been working on this too, 00:01:55.04\00:01:57.91 how would you kind of like quickly summarize, 00:01:57.95\00:02:00.25 how you see the direction of this video going? 00:02:00.28\00:02:02.18 What is it in your, from your perspective 00:02:02.22\00:02:05.25 being an animation person? 00:02:05.29\00:02:06.62 So when people ask me about the Days of Noah, 00:02:06.65\00:02:08.42 I typically tell them that 00:02:08.46\00:02:09.79 we take a look at the judgment hour message in Noah's day, 00:02:09.82\00:02:12.49 and we begin to draw parallels 00:02:12.53\00:02:13.86 to the judgment hour message of today, 00:02:13.90\00:02:15.53 because God doesn't do anything without first warning the world 00:02:15.56\00:02:17.97 and saying, "Hey, here what's coming" 00:02:18.00\00:02:19.33 He lets them know first. 00:02:19.37\00:02:20.70 And just as He did before, He's gonna do it again, 00:02:20.74\00:02:23.41 and now we're trying to share this message, 00:02:23.44\00:02:25.77 this warning message with the world today. 00:02:25.81\00:02:28.31 So that's typically how I would describe that to people. 00:02:28.34\00:02:30.25 That sounds like a really good summary. 00:02:30.28\00:02:31.61 I know one of the thing that we're doing that, 00:02:31.65\00:02:34.05 it's gonna be really interesting for people 00:02:34.08\00:02:36.35 is this whole idea what we did 00:02:36.38\00:02:38.05 for like three week shooting 00:02:38.09\00:02:39.42 at a football field at night time. 00:02:39.45\00:02:41.02 Now like why in the Days of Noah documentary 00:02:41.06\00:02:43.76 would you be shooting at night time 00:02:43.79\00:02:45.56 in a football field? 00:02:45.59\00:02:47.10 Yeah, well, the football field idea is 00:02:47.13\00:02:48.96 I think, it's actually a very good way 00:02:49.00\00:02:50.33 to bring something to prophecy 00:02:50.37\00:02:51.93 that we really haven't seen before 00:02:51.97\00:02:53.47 and that's our perspective in context. 00:02:53.50\00:02:57.24 If you take one inch on the football field 00:02:57.27\00:03:00.31 as a representation for one year, 00:03:00.34\00:03:03.38 the time that has elapsed from the days of Noah 00:03:03.41\00:03:05.91 to our time spans 00:03:05.95\00:03:07.28 almost exactly the length of the football field 00:03:07.32\00:03:09.55 from the end of one end zone 00:03:09.58\00:03:10.92 to the end of the other end zone. 00:03:10.95\00:03:13.05 So what we're going to be doing is, 00:03:13.09\00:03:14.89 we're doing this 3D timelines, 00:03:14.92\00:03:17.09 we have you walking on the field 00:03:17.13\00:03:18.99 and kind of explaining different parts 00:03:19.03\00:03:20.36 on the timeline, 00:03:20.40\00:03:21.73 but what the time line is going to do 00:03:21.76\00:03:23.43 is it's going to give context and perspective 00:03:23.47\00:03:26.43 to the time prophecies that we're dealing with 00:03:26.47\00:03:29.37 such as the 2300 day prophecy, 00:03:29.40\00:03:32.04 which is the announcement 00:03:32.07\00:03:33.41 that the hour of His judgment has come 00:03:33.44\00:03:34.94 and that's what Noah's message was, 00:03:34.98\00:03:36.54 he was announcing that 00:03:36.58\00:03:37.91 the hour of His judgment had come. 00:03:37.95\00:03:39.51 And so, putting those prophecies in context 00:03:39.55\00:03:42.18 and seeing exactly how much time has elapsed 00:03:42.22\00:03:44.35 from the days of Noah to our day, 00:03:44.39\00:03:46.79 and seeing how much time has elapsed 00:03:46.82\00:03:48.42 over the 2,300 day prophecy. 00:03:48.46\00:03:50.69 I just think it's a really great visual way 00:03:50.73\00:03:54.00 to represent these prophecies and also give them context. 00:03:54.03\00:03:58.27 We have a clip that we can show the viewers 00:03:58.30\00:04:00.57 that kind of give a little bit of a taste of what we're doing 00:04:00.60\00:04:02.64 because I've talked to several people about this idea 00:04:02.67\00:04:04.74 and they went, wow, 00:04:04.77\00:04:06.11 this is really, a really interesting concept 00:04:06.14\00:04:07.68 because we're trying to make the prophecies of the Bible 00:04:07.71\00:04:10.78 very easy to understand, 00:04:10.81\00:04:12.31 so the more visuals we have to be able to illustrate that, 00:04:12.35\00:04:15.12 the easier will be. 00:04:15.15\00:04:16.48 So let's go ahead and roll that clip right now, 00:04:16.52\00:04:18.59 it's a few minutes long that kind of give people an idea 00:04:18.62\00:04:21.26 what exactly we're talking about. 00:04:21.29\00:04:23.93 Noah gave a warning message to the world. 00:04:23.96\00:04:26.63 He told them the hour of God's judgment had come, 00:04:26.66\00:04:29.23 and showed them their need to enter into the ark of refuge. 00:04:29.26\00:04:32.30 This judgment hour was a testing time 00:04:32.33\00:04:35.00 in which all were faced with the choice 00:04:35.04\00:04:36.64 to accept or reject the message. 00:04:36.67\00:04:38.74 Then their probation closed 00:04:38.77\00:04:40.58 and the door of the Ark was shut 00:04:40.61\00:04:42.24 and the execution of judgment came by flood 00:04:42.28\00:04:45.08 when the waters covered the earth. 00:04:45.11\00:04:47.08 The events at the end of time 00:04:47.12\00:04:48.45 will follow this pattern exactly. 00:04:48.48\00:04:50.49 So walk with me now into the future. 00:04:50.52\00:04:53.19 I am your host Jeff Reich. 00:05:00.10\00:05:02.10 I am walking along the timeline 00:05:02.13\00:05:03.47 that expands the length of an entire football field. 00:05:03.50\00:05:06.33 Every inch of this field represents one year of time. 00:05:06.37\00:05:08.87 As you can see this timeline 00:05:08.90\00:05:11.04 really put things into perspective. 00:05:11.07\00:05:14.84 Previously we saw how prophecy in the Book of Daniel, 00:05:14.88\00:05:17.38 foretold the very year when the days of Noah 00:05:17.41\00:05:20.02 for the time where the end will begin. 00:05:20.05\00:05:22.02 We saw how this 2,300 day prophecy 00:05:22.05\00:05:23.99 began in 457 B.C. 00:05:24.02\00:05:25.99 with the decree of Artaxerxes, 00:05:26.02\00:05:27.89 and how one day being a symbol for one year 00:05:27.92\00:05:30.73 would last 2,300 years. 00:05:30.76\00:05:33.03 This prophecy extended well beyond the days of Jesus 00:05:38.00\00:05:40.94 all the way down to the year of 1844. 00:05:40.97\00:05:43.87 This is when the first angel's message began 00:05:43.91\00:05:45.74 to repeat the warning message announcing 00:05:45.77\00:05:47.88 the hour of His judgment has come. 00:05:47.91\00:05:50.05 This testing time lasted 120 years 00:05:50.08\00:05:52.95 in the days of Noah, 00:05:52.98\00:05:54.32 but in our day the judgment message has been sounding now 00:05:54.35\00:05:57.75 for over 170 years. 00:05:57.79\00:06:00.06 As the message of Noah spread throughout the earth, 00:06:00.09\00:06:02.89 so today The Three Angels' Messages 00:06:02.92\00:06:05.16 are circling the globe, warning its inhabitants 00:06:05.19\00:06:07.66 to enter into the ark of the everlasting covenant 00:06:07.70\00:06:10.37 before the execution of the final judgment. 00:06:10.40\00:06:13.10 Before the flood that come at time 00:06:13.13\00:06:14.70 when the last message of mercy had been given 00:06:14.74\00:06:17.27 and with the completed ark 00:06:17.31\00:06:18.84 and its open door set before the people, 00:06:18.87\00:06:21.31 they were brought to make a choice. 00:06:21.34\00:06:23.31 This is where we are today. 00:06:23.35\00:06:25.35 The second and third angel's message 00:06:25.38\00:06:27.52 warns us of the world's last great crisis 00:06:27.55\00:06:30.09 that will place multitudes of the earth 00:06:30.12\00:06:31.89 in the valley of decision 00:06:31.92\00:06:33.25 just as it was in the days of Noah. 00:06:33.29\00:06:36.19 Yeah, so, Chris from a technical standpoint 00:06:49.37\00:06:51.51 since you're the one who is working 00:06:51.54\00:06:52.87 on a lot of the animation segments of the video. 00:06:52.91\00:06:56.38 What was involved behind the scenes 00:06:56.41\00:06:57.98 in trying to make these really good visuals for people 00:06:58.01\00:07:00.98 so they can understand the prophecies? 00:07:01.02\00:07:03.25 It was actually quite a challenge at first 00:07:03.28\00:07:05.59 and we've learned a lot in the process 00:07:05.62\00:07:07.36 through doing it. 00:07:07.39\00:07:08.82 Mike actually has been getting good at 3D animation 00:07:08.86\00:07:11.49 and modeling as well 00:07:11.53\00:07:12.86 and he built a model of the timeline to scale. 00:07:12.89\00:07:15.23 He made a little virtual ruler 00:07:15.26\00:07:16.60 inside the computer and built that out, 00:07:16.63\00:07:18.60 and then my job was more of 00:07:18.63\00:07:19.97 making sure that we were shooting on set, 00:07:20.00\00:07:21.70 I had all the data and information needed later 00:07:21.74\00:07:24.61 to put all the stuff together, 00:07:24.64\00:07:26.17 so we did that a few different ways. 00:07:26.21\00:07:28.08 We were taking measurements 00:07:28.11\00:07:29.44 between certain markers in the scene, 00:07:29.48\00:07:31.18 so we have a scale reference in real life. 00:07:31.21\00:07:33.42 We had tennis balls all over the place 00:07:33.45\00:07:35.05 and there was a lot of research into 00:07:35.08\00:07:37.05 how many tennis balls do we need, 00:07:37.09\00:07:38.42 do we even need the tennis balls 00:07:38.45\00:07:39.79 all over the field because every tennis ball I add, 00:07:39.82\00:07:41.96 I have to be able to paint out and remove 00:07:41.99\00:07:43.59 and it's kind of like Photoshop but it's Photoshop in motion, 00:07:43.63\00:07:46.59 and so it's really been a huge, huge learning experience. 00:07:46.63\00:07:49.16 We did a lot of previous stuff with animatics, 00:07:49.20\00:07:51.93 we... like I went through a pretty much every shot almost 00:07:51.97\00:07:55.54 and did in the 3D model and everything 00:07:55.57\00:07:58.67 and just did a rough animation, 00:07:58.71\00:08:00.98 no textures or lighting or anything like that 00:08:01.01\00:08:02.74 just to give us a view of where the camera is moving, 00:08:02.78\00:08:05.75 what the lens is like. 00:08:05.78\00:08:07.72 And that helped us in production 00:08:07.75\00:08:10.49 because every shot need to be mapped out 00:08:10.52\00:08:12.25 because you're obviously interacting with something 00:08:12.29\00:08:13.89 that's really not there. 00:08:13.92\00:08:15.36 And so we have, 00:08:15.39\00:08:16.76 you know, little dates in different markers 00:08:16.79\00:08:18.76 on the timeline. 00:08:18.79\00:08:20.13 And so... we had to know exactly 00:08:20.16\00:08:21.50 how, how high off the ground those references are 00:08:21.53\00:08:24.90 so that you know where to point to 00:08:24.93\00:08:26.27 and so the camera knows what to focus on 00:08:26.30\00:08:28.00 and what to push into and what our frame is 00:08:28.04\00:08:30.54 and what all events are in the frame 00:08:30.57\00:08:31.91 and it's difficult to do that obviously 00:08:31.94\00:08:33.64 when you can't see anything. 00:08:33.68\00:08:35.68 We've been on a virtual version of view 00:08:35.71\00:08:37.65 that's kind of gliding around the shot 00:08:37.68\00:08:39.01 and stuff like that and it's all... 00:08:39.05\00:08:40.52 He built it all the scale, it turned out really nice. 00:08:40.55\00:08:43.18 One of the things that always amazes me 00:08:43.22\00:08:44.55 as we've gone out 00:08:44.59\00:08:45.92 and we've shot video for this project 00:08:45.95\00:08:47.69 is how God works behind the scenes 00:08:47.72\00:08:49.32 to cause things to happen in 00:08:49.36\00:08:50.93 like where is it that people could find a football field 00:08:50.96\00:08:53.46 that they could use every night for, you know, for three weeks. 00:08:53.50\00:08:56.97 We're staying up sometimes till 2:30 in the morning out there 00:08:57.00\00:09:00.70 and bugs are flying around the lights 00:09:00.74\00:09:02.34 and you got all these different things... 00:09:02.37\00:09:03.71 Yes, sprinklers. 00:09:03.74\00:09:05.07 Yes, sprinklers turning on in the middle of the shoot, 00:09:05.11\00:09:06.98 you know, there's a lot of obstacles 00:09:07.01\00:09:08.34 but God gave us a football field 00:09:08.38\00:09:10.38 that we could use 00:09:10.41\00:09:11.75 and people in our community here 00:09:11.78\00:09:14.22 were actually really supportive of us shooting there 00:09:14.25\00:09:16.89 and using the football field. 00:09:16.92\00:09:18.79 So one of the other things 00:09:18.82\00:09:20.26 that really are big part of the Days of Noah production 00:09:20.29\00:09:23.29 is the sanctuary and the sanctuary message. 00:09:23.32\00:09:25.69 Now people are like, "What does the sanctuary have to do 00:09:25.73\00:09:28.30 with the days of Noah?" 00:09:28.33\00:09:29.66 Well, it has incredible amount to do 00:09:29.70\00:09:31.07 with the days of Noah. 00:09:31.10\00:09:32.43 Michael, would you like to explain 00:09:32.47\00:09:33.80 just really in nutshell without, 00:09:33.84\00:09:35.17 you know, being a spoiler alert 00:09:35.20\00:09:36.54 or giving way too much information 00:09:36.57\00:09:37.91 about what we're doing here but to kind of help people 00:09:37.94\00:09:40.21 to have an understanding of what we're doing. 00:09:40.24\00:09:41.91 Yeah, one of the interesting things 00:09:41.94\00:09:44.38 that we read in scripture is 00:09:44.41\00:09:47.98 that "...the longsuffering of God 00:09:48.02\00:09:49.55 waited in the days of Noah." 00:09:49.58\00:09:51.35 And we should think about that what was God waiting for, 00:09:51.39\00:09:54.26 and we read the rest of the verse 00:09:54.29\00:09:55.86 it says, "while the ark was a preparing." 00:09:55.89\00:09:58.56 So the preparation of the ark was critical. 00:09:58.59\00:10:01.66 It needed to be done before God would send the flood. 00:10:01.70\00:10:04.47 And if we think the ark, 00:10:04.50\00:10:06.37 just, I'd like to think of things in principles. 00:10:06.40\00:10:08.37 What was the principle underlying the ark? 00:10:08.40\00:10:10.67 What was that significance in principle? 00:10:10.71\00:10:13.27 And if you actually look at the definition 00:10:13.31\00:10:15.51 of the word "ark", 00:10:15.54\00:10:16.88 it says a place of refuge or safety. 00:10:16.91\00:10:20.25 And if you look up the definition 00:10:20.28\00:10:22.38 of the word "sanctuary", 00:10:22.42\00:10:23.75 it actually means the same thing, 00:10:23.79\00:10:25.39 it's a place of refuge or safety in ark. 00:10:25.42\00:10:29.29 Basically in principle, the meaning of an ark 00:10:29.32\00:10:31.63 and the sanctuary, one and the same thing. 00:10:31.66\00:10:33.23 And in fact, we know it in Psalm 77:13, 00:10:33.26\00:10:35.83 it says, "Thy way, oh God, is in the sanctuary." 00:10:35.86\00:10:38.57 And so the sanctuary illustrates, 00:10:38.60\00:10:41.44 it's really the illustration that God came up with. 00:10:41.47\00:10:43.97 This is from a divine mind 00:10:44.01\00:10:46.01 that God came up with this visual example 00:10:46.04\00:10:48.44 to teach us how to be prepared for the coming of Christ. 00:10:48.48\00:10:51.88 And so that's, you know, it's incredibly significant 00:10:51.91\00:10:54.32 and relevant for us. 00:10:54.35\00:10:55.68 And as we know, as we study the prophecies 00:10:55.72\00:10:57.99 and it's brought out in the Days of Noah documentary 00:10:58.02\00:11:00.59 that this sanctuary concept that God gave us 00:11:00.62\00:11:04.69 and it was told so beautifully in the old Testament, 00:11:04.73\00:11:07.73 was perverted and actually cast down to the ground 00:11:07.76\00:11:11.33 and through the reformation that took place, 00:11:11.37\00:11:14.47 there was a restoration of the sanctuary 00:11:14.50\00:11:16.74 that was taking place. 00:11:16.77\00:11:18.31 Now, we have a little bit of a short clip 00:11:18.34\00:11:21.08 dealing with the whole concept 00:11:21.11\00:11:23.21 of the restoration of the sanctuary 00:11:23.24\00:11:24.75 and how it pertains to the prophecies 00:11:24.78\00:11:27.12 leading up to 1844. 00:11:27.15\00:11:28.85 We're also talking about the second angel's message 00:11:28.88\00:11:31.12 like you said, like casting down of the sanctuary 00:11:31.15\00:11:33.62 and the restoration of the different truths 00:11:33.66\00:11:35.56 represented by the sanctuary. 00:11:35.59\00:11:37.43 And Noah actually had a similar message in his day, 00:11:37.46\00:11:40.96 when we were talking about the second angel's message. 00:11:41.00\00:11:43.26 He was calling people into the ark, 00:11:43.30\00:11:44.97 but by so doing, he was calling them out of idolatry, 00:11:45.00\00:11:48.37 out of false worship, and out of confusion. 00:11:48.40\00:11:52.44 And so, the second angel's message 00:11:52.47\00:11:54.54 is the repetition of that principle, 00:11:54.58\00:11:56.91 and so that's what's illustrated in this clip 00:11:56.95\00:11:59.45 that we're gonna look at. 00:11:59.48\00:12:00.88 Restoring the truths that are represented by the sanctuary 00:12:00.92\00:12:04.65 and helping people to come out of that confusion 00:12:04.69\00:12:07.26 and the false idolatry and into knowledge of the truth. 00:12:07.29\00:12:10.16 Of course, this clip that we're gonna run 00:12:10.19\00:12:11.96 is just a short little sample of just one segment 00:12:11.99\00:12:14.40 of what we're talking about, 00:12:14.43\00:12:15.76 but it gives you an idea exactly of the content 00:12:15.80\00:12:18.33 and quality of what we're trying to achieve 00:12:18.37\00:12:19.93 in this documentary. 00:12:19.97\00:12:21.30 Let's go ahead and roll that now. 00:12:21.34\00:12:22.67 So the whole sanctuary 00:12:22.70\00:12:24.04 all the way from the door to the Holy of Holies 00:12:24.07\00:12:26.88 had been corrupted 00:12:26.91\00:12:28.41 and it needed to be restored. 00:12:28.44\00:12:30.11 The prophecy of Daniel 8:14 tell us, "Unto 2300 days, 00:12:30.15\00:12:35.32 then shall the sanctuary be cleansed." 00:12:35.35\00:12:38.29 At a certain period of time 00:12:38.32\00:12:40.02 all the truths that have been cast down 00:12:40.06\00:12:42.76 by this little horn power would ultimately be restored. 00:12:42.79\00:12:46.19 And so the entire sanctuary is cast down 00:12:46.23\00:12:48.90 and trodden under foot by this man of sin. 00:12:48.93\00:12:51.77 Protestant Reformation brings it back. 00:12:51.80\00:12:53.80 And over a period of 500 years, that exact thing happened. 00:12:53.84\00:12:57.94 God began to bring different movements upon the scene 00:12:57.97\00:13:00.98 that would restore each article of furniture 00:13:01.01\00:13:03.85 almost century by century over a period of 500 years. 00:13:03.88\00:13:07.68 And so you have John Wycliffe 00:13:07.72\00:13:09.05 coming upon the scene in the 1300s. 00:13:09.08\00:13:11.22 He translated the Bible into the language of the people 00:13:11.25\00:13:14.39 and thus set off as it were the Reformation. 00:13:14.42\00:13:16.99 Martin Luther was born in the 1400s, 00:13:20.20\00:13:22.13 begins a Protestant Reformation in the 1500s 00:13:22.16\00:13:25.80 and he in essence restores the truth 00:13:25.83\00:13:30.07 that Christ's sacrifice is sufficient 00:13:30.11\00:13:32.77 for the forgiveness of sins, you don't have to pay money, 00:13:32.81\00:13:34.98 you don't have to do penance, 00:13:35.01\00:13:36.34 it is by faith and His sacrifice for us 00:13:36.38\00:13:39.01 that we are forgiven of our sins. 00:13:39.05\00:13:42.95 John Calvin comes upon the scene in the 1500s, 00:13:42.98\00:13:46.25 founded the Presbyterian movement. 00:13:46.29\00:13:47.72 Calvin has a very strong burden for prayer. 00:13:47.76\00:13:52.23 Wrote extensively on prayer. 00:13:52.26\00:13:54.43 Basically taught that you don't need to go through priests 00:13:54.46\00:13:57.53 in order to have access to God. 00:13:57.57\00:13:59.33 You can have direct access of throne of God yourself 00:13:59.37\00:14:04.17 in the 1600s. 00:14:04.21\00:14:07.41 John Smith and Roger Williams 00:14:07.44\00:14:10.35 become the founders of the Baptist movement, 00:14:10.38\00:14:13.18 and their special burden is the restoration 00:14:13.21\00:14:16.69 of the true mode of baptism. 00:14:16.72\00:14:18.05 You must repent and then be baptized. 00:14:18.09\00:14:21.82 You can't be sprinkled. 00:14:21.86\00:14:23.46 A true baptism is a symbol of being fully submersed, 00:14:23.49\00:14:26.83 fully buried and fully brought up into the wholeness of life. 00:14:26.86\00:14:29.76 And so the Baptist movement 00:14:29.80\00:14:31.13 restores the true mode of baptism. 00:14:31.17\00:14:35.64 In the 1700, you have John Wesley 00:14:35.67\00:14:37.51 who comes upon the scene 00:14:37.54\00:14:38.87 who is the founder of the Methodist movement, 00:14:38.91\00:14:40.78 and John Wesley has a very strong burden 00:14:40.81\00:14:43.28 for the lay evangelist. 00:14:43.31\00:14:44.91 You are the light of the world, let your light shine. 00:14:44.95\00:14:47.55 The Methodist movement in essence 00:14:47.58\00:14:49.88 added to everything else that the movements 00:14:49.92\00:14:51.99 before it had brought back. 00:14:52.02\00:14:54.49 Now they add this element of evangelism. 00:14:54.52\00:14:57.29 Go out there and let your light shine. 00:14:57.33\00:14:59.63 So by the 1800, there's one article of furniture 00:15:02.96\00:15:06.20 left to be restored, it is the Ark of the Covenant, 00:15:06.23\00:15:08.70 specifically the Seventh-day Sabbath, 00:15:08.74\00:15:11.17 and it is in this sanctuary that God brings on the scene 00:15:11.21\00:15:14.78 the Seventh-day Adventists movement 00:15:14.81\00:15:16.95 that would focus specifically on the law of God 00:15:16.98\00:15:20.45 and the commandment that have been cast down, 00:15:20.48\00:15:22.58 which is the Seventh-day Sabbath. 00:15:22.62\00:15:24.42 So in essence you have these two prophecies 00:15:28.69\00:15:30.86 in the Book of Daniel, 00:15:30.89\00:15:32.23 one sitting at the sanctuary would be defiled, 00:15:32.26\00:15:34.40 the other one sitting that it would be purified 00:15:34.43\00:15:36.53 at the end of 2,300 days and to a tee, 00:15:36.56\00:15:40.14 you find this confirmed in history. 00:15:40.17\00:15:45.11 The fact that this everlasting gospel 00:15:45.14\00:15:46.84 is again preached in 1844 simply signifies 00:15:46.88\00:15:50.05 that all the things that have been altered 00:15:50.08\00:15:52.45 and disrupted in the true everlasting gospel 00:15:52.48\00:15:56.45 were fully restored by 1844, 00:15:56.48\00:15:58.92 at the same time that the everlasting gospel 00:15:58.95\00:16:01.56 is fully restored and begins to go forward again. 00:16:01.59\00:16:05.19 It is at that time that the judgment begins. 00:16:05.23\00:16:08.76 And so now you have this message going forward, 00:16:08.80\00:16:11.30 it is an end time message. 00:16:11.33\00:16:13.07 And it is a message that actually prepares the world 00:16:13.10\00:16:15.47 for the coming of Christ. 00:16:15.50\00:16:16.84 Just like Noah who was calling people into the ark 00:16:16.87\00:16:18.87 and out of the crowd, 00:16:18.91\00:16:20.84 God in the last days is calling people 00:16:20.88\00:16:22.68 out of the false teachings of Babylon. 00:16:22.71\00:16:25.65 "And I heard another voice from heaven, 00:16:25.68\00:16:28.45 saying, "Come out of her, my people, 00:16:28.48\00:16:30.72 that ye be not partakers of her sins, 00:16:30.75\00:16:33.49 and that ye receive not of her plagues." 00:16:33.52\00:16:36.39 Come out of her, my people... 00:16:36.42\00:16:39.26 You come out of the false and you come into the truth. 00:16:39.29\00:16:43.06 If God's people are in Babylon, 00:16:43.10\00:16:45.50 it must represent churches that claim to serve the Lord 00:16:45.53\00:16:48.54 or else God wouldn't call them my people. 00:16:48.57\00:16:50.81 And so God is inviting people into the true worship. 00:16:50.84\00:16:54.54 A Sabbath isn't being where I'm at. 00:16:54.58\00:16:56.88 You know, the commandments aren't being preached 00:16:56.91\00:16:58.58 where I'm at, 00:16:58.61\00:16:59.95 you know, I'm not hearing that word 00:16:59.98\00:17:03.05 in the hour of God's judgment, 00:17:03.08\00:17:04.72 and so they say, "Hey, where I'm at? 00:17:04.75\00:17:07.79 The first angel's message isn't being preached, 00:17:07.82\00:17:10.16 so I'm actually going to get out." 00:17:10.19\00:17:12.33 When I first heard this message preached to me 00:17:25.84\00:17:30.35 that the denomination to which I belong 00:17:30.38\00:17:34.65 was Babylon 00:17:34.68\00:17:36.52 and that it was a false method of worship, 00:17:36.55\00:17:39.05 it frightened me. 00:17:39.09\00:17:40.42 I came out of the Roman Catholic Church, 00:17:40.46\00:17:43.12 and I knew many good people 00:17:43.16\00:17:44.83 within the Roman Catholic system, 00:17:44.86\00:17:47.26 but when I saw that their teachings were 00:17:47.30\00:17:48.83 contrary to the scripture, I had no choice. 00:17:48.86\00:17:52.57 Being a sentient human being, I looked at it and said, 00:17:52.60\00:17:56.44 "Well, the only logical conclusion 00:17:56.47\00:17:59.07 is to follow what God has said in His Bible, 00:17:59.11\00:18:02.34 not the traditions of men." 00:18:02.38\00:18:05.35 And it was very difficult because my whole family 00:18:05.38\00:18:08.25 is Roman Catholic and they still are to this day, 00:18:08.28\00:18:10.89 and this is what we need to do 00:18:10.92\00:18:13.72 to let people know that Babylon is fallen. 00:18:13.76\00:18:17.09 It's twice fallen and not only Roman Catholicism 00:18:17.13\00:18:21.30 but also the daughters of the harlot, 00:18:21.33\00:18:25.90 that's addressed in Revelation 17, 00:18:25.93\00:18:28.27 that they too have become spiritual Babylon. 00:18:28.30\00:18:31.61 One of the segments that we shot 00:18:31.64\00:18:32.97 was actually shot in a cornfield 00:18:33.01\00:18:34.54 and it was the whole segment 00:18:34.58\00:18:36.04 dealing with the understanding of the great disappointment. 00:18:36.08\00:18:39.25 Would you like to talk about that for a second? 00:18:39.28\00:18:40.88 Maybe we can roll that clip? 00:18:40.92\00:18:42.25 Sure, yeah, we shot in a cornfield. 00:18:42.28\00:18:44.29 We just did a quick scene with Hiram Edson and O.R.L. Crosier 00:18:44.32\00:18:49.12 in their experience and their disappointments 00:18:49.16\00:18:52.69 and how God sort of led them to an understanding 00:18:52.73\00:18:56.56 that the 2300 day prophecy 00:18:56.60\00:18:59.43 was not necessarily talking 00:18:59.47\00:19:00.80 about the sanctuary meaning the earth, 00:19:00.84\00:19:02.17 but rather the sanctuary in heaven. 00:19:02.20\00:19:03.97 Let's just go ahead and watch that clip really quick 00:19:04.01\00:19:05.74 so that can viewers can get an idea 00:19:05.77\00:19:07.11 of what we're talking about. 00:19:07.14\00:19:08.48 As the Bible students then looked at that in more detail 00:19:08.51\00:19:12.41 and more carefully, obviously, 00:19:12.45\00:19:14.65 realizing that something had gone contrary to expectations. 00:19:14.68\00:19:19.22 They saw for the first time clearly 00:19:19.25\00:19:22.12 that this prophecy spoke of the sanctuary, 00:19:22.16\00:19:26.80 they were expecting the cleansing of the earth, 00:19:26.83\00:19:28.96 but it turned out 00:19:29.00\00:19:30.47 that they were mistaken in that equation. 00:19:30.50\00:19:34.07 If the sanctuary was to be cleansed 00:19:34.10\00:19:35.94 at the end of the 2300 days, 00:19:35.97\00:19:37.87 then that forced the question of what sanctuary. 00:19:37.91\00:19:39.97 There's a great danger 00:19:42.31\00:19:43.65 of misunderstanding Bible prophecy, 00:19:43.68\00:19:45.18 because if the prophecy doesn't come to pass 00:19:45.21\00:19:46.92 the way that people expect, 00:19:46.95\00:19:48.45 they can face a great disappointment, 00:19:48.48\00:19:50.19 and that disappointment will be proportionate 00:19:50.22\00:19:52.12 to how big their expectations are, 00:19:52.15\00:19:54.56 and that can cause many people to lose their faith. 00:19:54.59\00:19:57.49 Hiram Edson and O.R.L. Crosier 00:19:57.53\00:20:01.30 were walking through the cornfield the next day 00:20:01.33\00:20:03.67 to avoid the mocking crowds. 00:20:03.70\00:20:05.63 Both were from proponents of William Miller's conclusions 00:20:05.67\00:20:08.84 and the advent message. 00:20:08.87\00:20:10.54 When Jesus did not return when they had hoped, 00:20:10.57\00:20:13.54 their minds solemnly struggled to grasp what went wrong. 00:20:13.58\00:20:17.55 They were on their way to visit some of the other brethren 00:20:17.58\00:20:22.45 that were also very saddened 00:20:22.48\00:20:24.32 by the fact that Christ had not come. 00:20:24.35\00:20:25.69 They expected Him to come in 1844 and He didn't come. 00:20:25.72\00:20:29.42 Hey, Hiram... 00:20:37.73\00:20:40.24 you coming? 00:20:40.27\00:20:42.07 The day after Christ didn't come, 00:20:42.10\00:20:44.11 inspiration dawned on Hiram Edson, 00:20:44.14\00:20:46.74 and he came to understand 00:20:46.78\00:20:48.11 the key that would unlock the mystery 00:20:48.14\00:20:50.15 to their disappointment and it brought to their minds 00:20:50.18\00:20:52.88 a new revelation about the sanctuary. 00:20:52.91\00:20:56.32 It's in Hebrews. 00:20:56.35\00:20:58.92 It's in Hebrews. It's in Hebrews. 00:20:58.95\00:21:03.79 It's in Hebrews. 00:21:03.83\00:21:07.23 Look, look, look, look, chapter 8:1, 00:21:07.26\00:21:12.63 "We have such a high priest, 00:21:12.67\00:21:14.30 who sat on the right hand of the throne of the Majesty 00:21:14.34\00:21:16.94 in the heavens, a minister of the sanctuary, 00:21:16.97\00:21:19.47 and of the true tabernacle, 00:21:19.51\00:21:21.58 which the Lord pitched, and not man." 00:21:21.61\00:21:24.35 Did you see? 00:21:27.95\00:21:29.28 So the sanctuary is in heaven. 00:21:29.32\00:21:31.02 Let's go. 00:21:31.05\00:21:32.69 And they got excited about it, 00:21:35.22\00:21:36.56 they said, "We weren't wrong with the date, 00:21:36.59\00:21:39.06 we were wrong with the event." 00:21:39.09\00:21:41.03 This last summer we spent a lot of time 00:21:41.06\00:21:43.26 shooting my personal narrations 00:21:43.30\00:21:45.07 that are kind of like the little links 00:21:45.10\00:21:46.63 that connect all of the different pieces 00:21:46.67\00:21:48.27 of the documentary together, 00:21:48.30\00:21:49.84 and we traveled around a lot shooting this, 00:21:49.87\00:21:52.21 besides late nights at a football field, 00:21:52.24\00:21:54.61 we shot in cedar groves... 00:21:54.64\00:21:57.35 Courthouse. 00:21:57.38\00:21:58.71 I am sorry. 00:21:58.75\00:22:00.08 Courthouse. 00:22:00.12\00:22:01.45 Yeah, we shot in a courthouse. 00:22:01.48\00:22:02.82 This parallel of the Three Angels' Message 00:22:02.85\00:22:04.95 is so critical for us today. 00:22:04.99\00:22:07.26 We want to make this an interactive series. 00:22:07.29\00:22:09.22 It's going to be several DVDs 00:22:09.26\00:22:10.83 and what we're hoping to do is 00:22:10.86\00:22:12.29 we're going to create a workbook that goes with it, 00:22:12.33\00:22:14.56 so that you can invite people to your house 00:22:14.60\00:22:16.23 and watch like a 15 minute or half hour segment of it 00:22:16.26\00:22:19.47 and then you'll actually have a workbook that goes with it, 00:22:19.50\00:22:21.87 and be able to ask questions and review the things 00:22:21.90\00:22:26.01 that were actually shared on the DVD, 00:22:26.04\00:22:28.44 and use it kind of as an evangelistic tool 00:22:28.48\00:22:31.18 to help people understand the prophecies, 00:22:31.21\00:22:33.48 where we are today, 00:22:33.52\00:22:34.85 and how the Bible can predict the future, 00:22:34.88\00:22:36.99 and how history has come to pass in the form of prophecy. 00:22:37.02\00:22:40.39 And we're going to chapter the DVDs 00:22:40.42\00:22:43.09 to match the workbook, 00:22:43.12\00:22:44.59 so that if there's a question about anything 00:22:44.63\00:22:46.56 that's in the workbook, they can go, 00:22:46.59\00:22:48.06 "Oh, I need to go to Chapter 2 on DVD number one." 00:22:48.10\00:22:50.80 And boom, they can review the segment 00:22:50.83\00:22:52.60 that's being discussed. 00:22:52.63\00:22:53.97 It's going to be more than just a movie or a documentary. 00:22:54.00\00:22:58.11 It's going to be something interactive 00:22:58.14\00:22:59.47 that you can use as a witnessing tool, 00:22:59.51\00:23:00.88 and I'm really excited about that aspect 00:23:00.91\00:23:03.24 of using this DVD series. 00:23:03.28\00:23:06.65 We have financial needs for this 00:23:06.68\00:23:08.65 and would you two like to share with us, 00:23:08.68\00:23:10.29 I mean, some people spend like $7 million 00:23:10.32\00:23:13.36 to do a production, you know, 00:23:13.39\00:23:14.72 a lot of documentaries are $7 million. 00:23:14.76\00:23:16.36 Well, Laymen Ministries is trying to do this for, 00:23:16.39\00:23:19.59 you know, a couple of $100,000 00:23:19.63\00:23:21.83 and where it's a several DVD series. 00:23:21.86\00:23:24.87 What kind of needs do we have right now? 00:23:24.90\00:23:26.63 I mean there's apparently financial needs? 00:23:26.67\00:23:28.54 One of the biggest needs we have right now is 00:23:28.57\00:23:31.17 just more computing power, more and more computers 00:23:31.21\00:23:33.78 because we're doing these 3D animations of the sanctuary. 00:23:33.81\00:23:37.08 We've got a 3D cathedral 00:23:37.11\00:23:38.81 that we're going to use for some of the... 00:23:38.85\00:23:40.18 I believe Dark Ages stuff 00:23:40.22\00:23:41.55 and second angel's message and things, 00:23:41.58\00:23:42.92 and it takes so much time 00:23:42.95\00:23:44.82 and so, one of our biggest needs right now 00:23:44.85\00:23:46.55 is just more computers that we can throw these animations 00:23:46.59\00:23:49.26 so that we can turn them more faster and get this thing done. 00:23:49.29\00:23:52.46 And we're needing to shoot B-roll 00:23:52.49\00:23:54.00 which means traveling, 00:23:54.03\00:23:55.36 it means having some simple re-enactments. 00:23:55.40\00:23:57.30 We're not talking about something like people talking 00:23:57.33\00:23:59.93 and producing a movie type thing, 00:23:59.97\00:24:01.50 but visuals that go along 00:24:01.54\00:24:03.44 with what the documentary is talking about. 00:24:03.47\00:24:05.44 There's a lot more expenses, 00:24:05.47\00:24:06.81 you know, when you start traveling and shooting 00:24:06.84\00:24:08.84 and having to have people come and work with you 00:24:08.88\00:24:11.68 and coordinating all that, there's a lot of, 00:24:11.71\00:24:13.98 not only time involved 00:24:14.02\00:24:15.35 but there's a lot of expense involved, 00:24:15.38\00:24:16.72 and we've kind of gotten to the point 00:24:16.75\00:24:18.12 where we're close to exhausting our budget 00:24:18.15\00:24:19.65 almost we are with this project, 00:24:19.69\00:24:21.06 but yet we're getting so close 00:24:21.09\00:24:22.66 to being towards the homestretch 00:24:22.69\00:24:24.23 of finishing it. 00:24:24.26\00:24:25.59 This last summer we were doing a lot of traveling, 00:24:25.63\00:24:27.50 doing the very last narrations, 00:24:27.53\00:24:29.00 pulled together the documentary. 00:24:29.03\00:24:30.87 And in closing, I'd like to share with you 00:24:30.90\00:24:33.10 just some clips that we captured 00:24:33.13\00:24:35.40 while we were traveling this summer, 00:24:35.44\00:24:36.77 to kind of give you an idea 00:24:36.81\00:24:38.14 of some of the cinematic type of video 00:24:38.17\00:24:40.88 that's involved with this production. 00:24:40.91\00:24:42.68 As you watch this, 00:24:42.71\00:24:44.05 just think about the Days of Noah project, 00:24:44.08\00:24:45.41 think about how you could use it 00:24:45.45\00:24:46.78 with your friends and family 00:24:46.82\00:24:48.15 and pray with us as we move forward 00:24:48.18\00:24:49.52 to try to finish this production. 00:24:49.55\00:24:51.29 Noah gave us specific message to prepare people for the flood 00:24:55.09\00:24:58.66 and this angel that announces 00:24:58.69\00:25:00.16 "The hour of His judgment has come," 00:25:00.20\00:25:01.86 also has a specific message for our time. 00:25:01.90\00:25:05.30 Both of these messages are calculated 00:25:05.33\00:25:07.94 to prepare mankind for the judgment 00:25:07.97\00:25:10.14 by calling us into an ark of refuge. 00:25:10.17\00:25:13.04 We'll begin to understand what this ark of refuge is 00:25:13.07\00:25:15.24 for us today 00:25:15.28\00:25:16.61 by closely examining the message of Noah. 00:25:16.64\00:25:19.18 The Bible tells us Noah was a preacher of righteousness 00:25:34.26\00:25:37.57 and the gospel reveals the righteousness of God. 00:25:37.60\00:25:40.30 It simply means that Noah was preaching the gospel. 00:25:40.34\00:25:43.37 I've often said that 00:25:56.69\00:25:58.02 the Sabbath is an outward sign of an inward work, 00:25:58.05\00:26:00.86 because observing the Sabbath to define that we acknowledge 00:26:00.89\00:26:03.63 only God can sanctify us. 00:26:03.66\00:26:05.46 In Central Utah, there are evacu pods. 00:26:23.88\00:26:26.61 There are billions of these organisms 00:26:26.65\00:26:29.95 that make up these layers. 00:26:29.98\00:26:32.65 And because we are again living in the judgment hour, 00:26:55.14\00:26:57.98 the gospel must once again be given to the world 00:26:58.01\00:27:00.72 to bring every one to a decision. 00:27:00.75\00:27:03.45 And if you'd like to get involved with this project, 00:27:51.57\00:27:53.34 you can contact us at Laymen Ministries, 00:27:53.37\00:27:55.64 414, Zapada Road, Saint Maries, Idaho 83861. 00:27:55.67\00:27:59.57 Call us on our toll free number, 00:27:59.61\00:28:00.94 request the DVD series of the updates 00:28:00.98\00:28:03.14 at 1-800-245-1844 00:28:03.18\00:28:06.92 or you can get us on the World Wide Web 00:28:06.95\00:28:08.78 at www.lmn.org. 00:28:08.82\00:28:12.42