We're glad that you are with us
here at Laymen Ministry studio.
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Pastor Johnson is visiting
with us again from India.
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And Pastor Johnson just about
once a year in the spring time
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almost every year now
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for the last
three, four, five years
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you've been able to
come here and visit with us.
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And I was just in India
with you just a few weeks ago.
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It's really great to
always have you come here
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and this is a
prime opportunity for us
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to be able to share with
you about some of the things
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that are happening
right now in India,
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'cause we've had a lot
of exciting developments.
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In fact when I was
there one of the purposes
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that I was there was we
had a special event going on.
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You'd like to
talk about that? Yes.
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The excited event or we can say
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the milestone of
Laymen Ministry in India
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because our 18 year journey,
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this year is a
excitement event happened.
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When you came we had a
dedication of the new center,
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Laymen Ministry Center in India,
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because in this center
we have our training center,
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TV production
studio, books storage.
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We've been talking
for quite a while about
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building a television
studio and training center
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but we were just
having so many difficulties
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trying to find property.
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We had some money
but not enough money.
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And we looked probably
for what two and a half years,
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three years praying and looking,
and praying and looking.
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How did you
discover this property?
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Since 2009 we were
searching for the property.
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I know you visited many property
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but it is a huge
amount we cannot afford it,
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and we don't have funds--
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People don't
understand that in Chennai,
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right in the city of
Chennai it's like New York City
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trying to buy
property, the prices.
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But this is located outside
the city so it's not only
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nicer being in the country
but it's a lot less money
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for the
purchase of the property.
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So what happened, how
did you find that property?
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Since 2009 we have been
praying for the property
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and you have been
asking pastor what happened?
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Where is the
land and how we are,
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how far we reached?
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But in 2012 God
opened a way for us.
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It is a sudden opening.
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One church member he called
me for a meeting in a village.
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He purchased some property
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and in that village he
want to plant a church.
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So he asked me pastor,
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why can't you come
and preach three days.
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Then first day I
didn't go, he was so upset.
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The third day
he came to my home.
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Pastor, you have to come.
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This is kind of sound
like the story of Jonah--
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You are right, exactly.
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Because like
Jonah I was not going
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but God at last
God gave me opportunity
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to land that place
and I preached a sermon.
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The village people were so happy
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because so far they
have seen me only in the TV.
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Now they were so excited.
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Oh, Pastor Johnson has
come, Pastor Johnson has come.
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Then at the end,
the church elder told me
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there is a
property why can't you buy.
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I said why I need a property?
Pastor you have to buy.
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Did you forget about the fact
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that we needed
property for the studio?
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Yes, that moment
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because it is a kind of
dark and there is people.
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Oh, it was night time?
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Yeah, it's a night time
because after the meeting,
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the meeting closed at 9 pm
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and then I'm also kind
of tired and I want to go.
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Then next day again
he called me, pastor,
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it's a good property please buy.
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Then the same night I called you
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and you also
asked me what happened,
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how the things--
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How come we
haven't found property yet?
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Yes.
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Then next day I called him.
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Okay, let's go to that place.
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Then finally when
I saw the property
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I was so happy and when you came
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and you also
happy about the property
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because it is a
kind of not in the city--
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But it's still
close to the city.
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And it's got good
roads going to this area
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and it's a nice
place 'cause it's quiet
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for a studio you need to
have kind of a quiet place
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not in hustle
and bustle of town.
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And this property is
only gonna go up in value,
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you know, if the
Lord doesn't come
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come in the next couple of years
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probably we're going
to see it go up in value.
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So you purchased the
property and it was one year ago
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I was there it
was just bare ground
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and then a lot
happened this past year.
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What happened exactly?
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Yeah, last year when you came
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I showed the
property and you are,
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kind of I was worried whether
you'll be happy or not and--
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but by God's
grace you said nice.
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Then we didn't have
any money for construction.
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And but--
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But we paid for
the property in cash?
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Yes, we paid the
money for property.
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And we didn't have
money for the construction.
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But it is a providence of God.
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And through Laymen Ministry,
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funds and people that we were
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able to finish, able to finish.
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You know, we had people
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donate money for this project.
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It was such an answer to prayer.
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Nobody gave just great,
big, huge amounts of money.
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It was just little
bits and pieces here.
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And so we are able
to start construction.
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But you said something,
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there was some people baptized
in this area which where--
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there was no
Adventist presence at all,
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very few
Christians even in that area.
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How many people were baptized
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by the result of
the Bible workers
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and the evangelism
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where we are gonna
build this training center?
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It is 28 people were
baptized in that village.
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Yeah.
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And when we were there
just here few weeks ago,
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one of those church members
has faithfully been like a guard
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watching the whole
thing and making sure
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nobody is stealing anything.
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So within a period
of like nine months--
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Yes. The building was up.
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Yes. Six months.
The church was build.
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Yes, church and the
construction of the studio.
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Everything
finished almost nine months.
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You know, what I like to do is
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I would like to take our
viewers really quickly to India
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and just do like a quick
tour of this new facility
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and then when we get back,
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we'd like to talk
about the dedication
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and who came and what
was involved with that.
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So let's go to India right now.
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I'd like to give
you a tour of our
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new Laymen Ministry studio.
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We're gonna be
having a dedication
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coming up this
week for the building
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and we just basically
got the rough shell together.
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This is really
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in its
preliminary stages right now.
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This is the main studio area.
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And because there's
no acoustical material
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put on the walls yet,
echo is a lot in here.
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We have our
lighting grid system in
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and we're looking
at lights right now.
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But this is where
we're gonna have our sets,
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we'll have a Chroma key wall
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which is real common type
thing they do here in India,
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plus the couple
other television sets.
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And then around here we
have the control room area.
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Most of the time we're
gonna have that main door
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in the front shut,
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that's kind of a
ornamental thing.
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That you can see the
front of the building
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but that door really
practically won't be used.
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This door will be the door
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that will be
used most of the time.
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And then you come in
here, this is an audio booth
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and this is where we
will be doing audio recording
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and possibly doing some
editing officially in here too.
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And then this is
gonna be the cave room.
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We're gonna try to
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get some
ventilation in here of some sort
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because this room
is just a cement block.
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When you come out
the side entrance,
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it comes outside
the studio right here
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and goes up the stairs.
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Being that this is India,
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the worse kind of
weather that you ever have is
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rain storms
during the rainy season.
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So you can have a lot of
things outside and exposed.
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And this is an
open bathroom area
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for all our
workers and for people
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that come and visit here.
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And this will
actually be the doorway
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to Laymen Ministry's office.
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We'll have like
a reception office
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on the side here and a
little like living room
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seating area on this side.
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And then inside here we
have several different rooms.
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A big room on this side
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and two small
rooms on this side.
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The small rooms will be
used for guest accommodations.
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And then this big room is
going to be our mailing center.
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We're gonna use
it for having books
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out on our shelf
that will be used
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to have easy access to.
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We'll have some books
and boxes stored underneath
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where I showed you outside.
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But on the inside you
will actually have shelves
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and this is where
that we'll be packaging
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books and literature
and things and send out
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in response to our
television programs.
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And these are nice little
rooms, kind of like bedrooms,
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guest rooms, may be have a chair
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or two in here and
little table and a bed.
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And when people
come and stay here,
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they can stay at this--
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this facility
and feel comfortable.
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Pastor Johnson is even
saying that when I come here
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I'd probably be
staying at this office here,
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we will have a kitchen that
we do have a kitchen already
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that's on the
outside of the building
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that will be
used for cooking food
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and things like that.
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So next to the Laymen
Ministry studio center
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and training center here,
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we have a church
that's in on some property
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that's in
connection with our property.
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And the church was built
by the conference office.
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And I like to take you
down there and show you
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a little bit about what
we're gonna be doing with this.
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Like right next to the
Laymen Ministry Center here
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we have this
church and this church
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is owned by the conference.
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They actually
built this church for us.
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I'm gonna have Pastor Johnson
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talk a little bit
more about the church
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and what happened here
before our center was built.
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Think you find it
interesting a bit.
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We have a kitchen
already existing here.
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And it's not
completely functional yet
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but pretty soon will be.
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And when we stay here,
other people come to the studio,
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we'll have a fulltime cook
that will be preparing meals.
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You might be wondering
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why all the walls
are painted white.
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Really this is
just a primary coat
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because the
cement is fairly fresh
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and so what they do is they put
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white on the
walls first and let it
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and let it set
for 6 to 8 months,
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let everything cure really good
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and this becomes like a
sealer coat or primary coat.
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So eventually
Laymen Ministry's building
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will probably be
like a light yellow
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or beige or pastel
color of some sort.
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You know, this
is the church here
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and this church is in
connection with our center
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and so if we ever
have meetings here,
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training seminars
or anything like that,
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we will be using the church
for doing the actual training.
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They by the way already
have an established church here.
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And there's people meeting
every Sabbath in this church.
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I will have Pastor
Johnson tell you a little bit
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more about that in a second.
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But we have training seminars,
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we can usually fit 50-60
people in this little room.
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And we have a podium here,
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so we will be able to
do training and such here.
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The idea is with this facility
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is to bring
groups of lay people here
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and have two, three
week training seminars
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to train lay people
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to be involved
with outreach ministry.
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In fact if
you've noticed so far,
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if you've watched some
of Laymen Ministry's videos,
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a lot of the work being done
here is been done by lay people
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in connection with
pastors and other church people.
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But basically a lot of this work
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is being done by Bible workers
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who are lay people
and also lay people
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themselves getting
involved with the work.
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So we really want to
help motivate people,
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have them come here
for two or three weeks
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and then to be able
to have the training
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that they can get
to be able to know
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how to do this kind of
work that we're already doing.
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Kind of perpetuate in
a greater sense the work
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that's already been established
here by Laymen Ministries.
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Then we have this
big open area right here
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and we have plans
for this open area
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to actually
create another building
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that will be used as
type of the dormitory building
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so that we can house
up to 50, 60, 65 people
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to be able come
here and stay here.
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And have full
accommodations plus
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like a small cafeteria
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where people can
eat in this facility.
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This is going to be Laymen
Ministry's training center,
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television studio and
that's what our goal is
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and has taken several years
to get here but it's actually,
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finally starting to happen.
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That was really
exciting to be able to see
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how the Lord
provided this building
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and as everyone could see
by watching this interview.
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We have kind of an
empty shell right now.
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So what exactly is going to be
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the next step for
utilizing this building,
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the television studio
and the training part of it?
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Now we have a
building but it is empty.
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We have equipments but
we have to do air condition
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because it is very important.
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That's gonna be right about
$10,000 to buy this equipment.
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You are right. You are right.
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I mean, believe me, in India
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you want to have
air conditioning.
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Otherwise it is not possible.
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And also the sound
proof it's very important.
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And the lighting.
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And then the furniture.
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And the carpenter work,
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we have to do
for carpenter work.
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Kind of like
shelves and for benches
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for the editing equipment
and things like that. Yes.
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And also doors for the studio
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so that the sound will not go
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because right
now the door we have
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is a general door
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but it is not for
the sound proof door.
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And--
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So then the
upstairs area we're gonna be
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able to have a place to
store all our literature
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which right now is
stored at the Kodambakkam Church
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and in a house some place else.
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And we will be able to
mail all our literature
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and everything from
the television ministry
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from one place,
have a reception area.
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It's actually kind of
like administrative office.
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You are right, you
are right. Upstairs.
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And explain to
our viewing audience
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about what we
are planning on doing
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as far as the
training part of the center?
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The purpose of that
whole center of the production,
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TV production center
and the training center,
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the book storage
for the whole purpose
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is to reach the un-reached.
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The center where
we are right now,
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it's a northern part of Chennai.
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Chennai is almost
1.2 million population.
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It's hard for us
to even imagine that.
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I mean, huge. Yeah.
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So it is a kind of huge city
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and the great
Christian heritage.
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And in this
northern part of Chennai
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where our studio
located and the center located,
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it's mostly,
there are 4,500 villages
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never heard the
Three Angels' Message.
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And most of these people
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in this area I
noticed were Hindu.
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Probably around you think
90%, 95% something like that.
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90% to 95% it is--
there are 4,500 villages.
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And also each village
like 10,000 to 25,000 people.
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And some villages it's
like 100,000 to 200,000.
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So this is more than
just a television studio.
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We're gonna do training there
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and training lay people there
but you said even right now
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while we're doing this interview
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you assigned more Bible workers
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to that area that
has started working.
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And what are they doing and then
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what is the future
of training lay people?
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What's the purpose
of training lay people?
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I have taken few Bible
workers from the local people
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because from the city
to travel it is very hard.
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If they travel like 2
hours then come back 2 hours,
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they cannot do any work.
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So I thought it is better
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to train the
indigenous village people.
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When they go it is
very easy to visit them.
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Now these people
have been thoroughly
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grounded in the truth.
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These were not fast baptisms
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and these people
just by name only
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became Seventh-day
Adventist Christians.
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These are people who
really understand the Bible.
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You are right. You are right.
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So I have started a ground work
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where so almost I have taken
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six new Bible
workers from that place.
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And also we have additional two,
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so total eight Bible workers
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in that place are
currently working.
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The purpose of
these Bible workers,
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they will go to each
village and plant a church,
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so that will be
a memorial for God.
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And also the purpose
of the training center
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and if you want to
reach the un-reached,
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the 4,500 villages,
I think it is very hard
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with the human
strength and man power.
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And right now we have,
we have 24 Bible workers
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and we have two
pastors, two teams.
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That's not near enough
if we really are looking
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at the bigger scope of
trying to reach so many people.
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Yeah.
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So this training
center is gonna somehow
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be used to help facilitate that.
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What exactly, how
is it gonna be used?
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The method or the strategy,
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the unique strategy
we are going to follow.
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And also we-- I
hope this will work.
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The thing is we are praying--
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Praying to God
that this will work.
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This will work, you are right.
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And we are
planning for revival meeting
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and call the old
members to that our center.
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We are planning for a
three days revival meeting.
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So all the old
members around that villages
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not that area, other area,
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the Adventist members,
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they will come to the--
for the revival meeting.
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After the revival meeting
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or maybe the end of the day
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we are-- I am
planning to give appeal.
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And those who want to
do some missionary work,
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please, you have to involve.
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And some retired pastors
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and all that we are
planning to bring to our center.
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And the training, approximately
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we want to give for four months.
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It's a intensive Bible course
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and also create a
passion to reach the un-reached.
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You know what
you're talking about
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is not only the model
for apostolic Christianity,
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it was the model
for early Adventism.
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Rather than the
idea of the lay people
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sitting in the
churches and singing songs
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and paying, praying and obeying.
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They actually
become active members
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of evangelism themselves.
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And that the power and
the force of the church
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rest in the laity and
not just in one pastors
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paid by the conference
or something to try to
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load over God's
heritage in a sense.
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You are right.
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And we need to
empower the laity,
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that's what Laymen
Ministries is about.
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And so what
you're saying is that
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if we can train lay people
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and they can go back
to the local churches
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and set a fire under
the other people there,
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they could actually start doing
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this outreach
in different areas.
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Outreach in a different area,
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they can come
and once in a week.
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And also we have a plan
not only for reaching them
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and we want to assign
a two people in a village
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and within one year
they have to plant a church.
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And church mean it
will be a very expensive.
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So we have found a model
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the church name
call Nano church.
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Called what? Nano church.
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What's that mean? A Nano church?
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Nano church. What's that, Nano?
00:19:06.79\00:19:08.10
I know what a Nano pod
is, now what's a Nano church.
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Like in India there is
a car company called Tata.
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They have
introduced a model called Nano.
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That mean very inexpensive,
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it is like $2,000,
they can buy a car.
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So on behalf of
the Laymen Ministry
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we have
introduced a church model
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called Nano church.
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That cost only $2,000.
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And it should be
a starter church,
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a small church that's supposed
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to be established in
all these different areas.
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You said 42,000 areas
basically where there is no--
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4,500 villages.
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4,500? Wow.
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That's a lot of area.
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It's a whole district.
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You know, people--
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people have a hard time
just getting their heads
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around the idea of how
many people there are in India,
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it's just phenomenal.
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So then that creates a problem
00:20:00.04\00:20:02.66
because while we have
the church there for training
00:20:02.69\00:20:04.92
and we have the
television studio there,
00:20:04.95\00:20:06.89
the administrative
building and all that stuff,
00:20:06.92\00:20:08.89
you know that
Lord has blessed with.
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We have another empty piece
of property sitting next to.
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Yeah.
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And hopefully when this is
done our building will be done.
00:20:14.73\00:20:16.94
But what is the plan
00:20:16.97\00:20:18.00
with this empty
lot right next to that?
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Before that also I
want to share one thing
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maybe a quick report.
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The main reason, we have a plan
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through our TV
evangelism and through training,
00:20:28.79\00:20:33.59
equipping the lay people, we
want to reach the un-reached,
00:20:33.62\00:20:37.35
sharing the
Three Angels' Message.
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And not only giving
baptism, we want to put a church
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in an inexpensive way,
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so that people
can come and assemble.
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So we have a plan
00:20:49.61\00:20:51.45
for the follow
book and everything.
00:20:51.48\00:20:54.05
And right now also it is not a--
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because 4,500
villages is not easy thing.
00:20:58.72\00:21:02.45
I can talk in one
minute, but it is, you know,
00:21:02.48\00:21:05.39
the situation-- Huge.
00:21:05.42\00:21:07.27
To travel from city to village
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it is not easy
talk, easy target.
00:21:10.27\00:21:14.90
But I believe God
can do a great thing.
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That property that's
sitting right next to our studio
00:21:21.07\00:21:23.13
that we already own,
it's inside our fenced area.
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Yes.
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You want to build
kind of like a dormitory
00:21:26.23\00:21:27.92
for people for long term
like what you're thinking three,
00:21:27.95\00:21:31.03
four months
training to be able to go out
00:21:31.06\00:21:33.53
and do evangelism
and church planting.
00:21:33.56\00:21:35.51
You are right.
00:21:35.54\00:21:36.57
The guest room right now we
have only the two guest room,
00:21:36.60\00:21:39.05
maybe like a eight
people or four people can stay.
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So we want to
minimum give a training
00:21:42.37\00:21:46.17
for 50 to 75 people a year.
00:21:46.20\00:21:50.16
So at least 50
people can accommodate,
00:21:50.19\00:21:54.18
so we need a
dormitory who can accommodate
00:21:54.21\00:21:57.56
50 people and cafeteria
and for the cooking place
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and everything
where we have to build it.
00:22:05.59\00:22:07.56
So that's a goal for the next--
00:22:07.59\00:22:10.85
Next phase of the project.
00:22:10.88\00:22:12.36
And I just want to
share with our viewers,
00:22:12.39\00:22:13.89
when we do this
kind of building,
00:22:13.92\00:22:15.47
we don't do really
elaborate big fancy stuff,
00:22:15.50\00:22:17.99
we're keeping
it really practical
00:22:18.02\00:22:20.14
and trying to keep the cost down
00:22:20.17\00:22:21.68
as much as possible
because it's so much better
00:22:21.71\00:22:24.33
to be able to put the money into
00:22:24.36\00:22:25.86
television production
and literature production
00:22:25.89\00:22:28.29
and the saving souls
and building buildings.
00:22:28.32\00:22:30.64
But sometimes it's necessary
to have these kind of facilities
00:22:30.67\00:22:34.96
to be able to do
this kind of work
00:22:34.99\00:22:36.69
to help the church grow.
00:22:36.72\00:22:38.77
And you were
even telling me that
00:22:38.80\00:22:40.20
once we got a
dormitory put up there
00:22:40.23\00:22:42.30
that even some of the
conferences and unions
00:22:42.33\00:22:44.62
might want to rent our
facility once in a while.
00:22:44.65\00:22:47.83
For pastor meetings
and things like that.
00:22:47.86\00:22:50.10
So we would actually
be providing for a price,
00:22:50.13\00:22:53.24
a rental price a facility
00:22:53.27\00:22:55.91
for them to be able
to hold some meetings.
00:22:55.94\00:22:57.08
You are right, you are right.
00:22:57.11\00:22:58.14
And also not only
for the conference
00:22:58.17\00:23:00.01
or pastor's meeting, even
some of the outside schools
00:23:00.04\00:23:04.17
and some of the
companies, they sometime,
00:23:04.20\00:23:07.48
they want to go
to the countryside
00:23:07.51\00:23:08.76
and hold a meeting,
then we can get a charge
00:23:08.79\00:23:11.84
and that money we
can use for the ministry.
00:23:11.87\00:23:16.42
So there-- this
is two way advantage.
00:23:16.45\00:23:19.12
One way, it's training.
00:23:19.15\00:23:20.69
We are equipping
the people, lay people.
00:23:20.72\00:23:22.73
Also we are getting some funds
to run our monthly budget. Yeah.
00:23:22.76\00:23:27.59
And God has been
so gracious to us,
00:23:27.62\00:23:29.26
I'm like just amazed,
00:23:29.29\00:23:30.81
somehow He has
provided all this.
00:23:30.84\00:23:32.29
But let's get back
00:23:32.32\00:23:33.35
to the television
studio for a second
00:23:33.38\00:23:34.92
because a big
part of this building,
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the whole downstairs area
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is dedicated to
television production.
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Tell us a little bit
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why we needed a
television studio?
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How many different networks
or stations are we on right now?
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And how will the
studio be able to actually
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help our work there in India?
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Right now, we are producing
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nine television
programs every week.
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And it is all a secular channel.
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They are all on
secular channels?
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You are right.
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How many different
channels are we on right on?
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We are in nine
different secular channels.
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So we're making
one program per week
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for every single channel.
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And a lot of these channels
when you say they're secular,
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a lot of times they
are even Hindu networks?
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And Christian,
mostly all Hindu network.
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All Hindu.
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Like Tamilan
and Jaya television.
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Yeah, Jaya TV, it's
going throughout the world.
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The potential population--
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potential audience
is 95 million people.
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Do you get very much response
from our television programs?
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Yes. Yeah.
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In a month we get
75 to 100 phone calls
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and some 50 to 75
mails, letters, everything.
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And so we are actually
with our distribution center
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that we've been kind of doing
out of the Kodambakkam Church
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and over at this
house we've rented
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which we're gonna move
to this few facilities.
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We're sending literature
to all of these responses too.
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You are right, you are right.
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So literature
plays a pretty big role
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in some of this whole
method of how we do evangelism.
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So the production of
the television evangelism,
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the TV studio is very important
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because we have
to hire a studio.
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When you hire a
studio the problem is
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when I enter the studio
they will count the time.
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Oh, 9 O' clock, pastor, it's 9.
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So my mind will go 9, 10.
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So I have to
finish within two hours,
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three hours, like that.
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That creates a lot of pressure.
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Yeah. A lot of pressure.
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And you were saying
that quality control
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sometimes it's
not very good too.
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We were also
talking about the fact that
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not only producing like
locked in television programs
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like 28 minutes and 30 seconds
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for broadcast or 1 hour program.
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But we could also
make sermon and educational
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like Bible study related DVDs
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in the studio that kind of
like not locked into the length
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because they're not gonna
be broadcast on television.
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What exactly is the
plan of making DVDs?
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The plan currently,
what we are planning is
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Pastor Shadrach he is
a very powerful preacher.
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He's preached
all over the world.
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I call him the
C.D. Brooks of India.
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And he says, oh, no, no,
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but he is really
clear powerful speaker.
00:26:13.02\00:26:15.97
Powerful speaker.
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So we want his Bible
study for one hour presentation.
00:26:17.17\00:26:23.13
So we want to make a
kind of 28 Bible study,
00:26:23.16\00:26:27.75
we want to make it.
00:26:27.78\00:26:28.81
And we want to
distribute that one,
00:26:28.84\00:26:30.48
that is our first
goal for this year.
00:26:30.51\00:26:32.95
We want to do it.
00:26:32.98\00:26:34.01
So once we start producing DVDs
00:26:34.04\00:26:35.67
like that if somebody calls
in and they have a real interest
00:26:35.70\00:26:38.50
where the Bible
workers are meeting
00:26:38.53\00:26:40.90
somebody has a real interest,
00:26:40.93\00:26:41.96
we could actually
introduce a DVD to begin with.
00:26:41.99\00:26:44.48
You are right, yeah. We can do.
00:26:44.51\00:26:45.67
So then the second
one is they want to
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take a kind of documentary.
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Suppose some of the church
member through our evangelism.
00:26:51.62\00:26:54.38
And there are
some church members
00:26:54.41\00:26:56.50
through our evangelism came.
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And today, they are very rich.
00:26:58.73\00:27:01.12
So we want to take some
interview kind of documentary
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about how after accepting
Jesus what is a change happened?
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The turning point in their life?
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We want to take some
life changing experiences.
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So all that we want to have
a record in that our studio.
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And I just want to share
with our viewing audience too
00:27:25.53\00:27:27.44
that this is
actually a two part series
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and what you're hearing
on this particular broadcast
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is going to be continued on
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another broadcast that
will be following next week.
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And if you want to get
this whole part series on a DVD,
00:27:37.07\00:27:39.93
you can contact our
ministry at Laymen Ministries,
00:27:39.96\00:27:42.26
414 Zapada Road,
St. Maries, Idaho 83861.
00:27:42.29\00:27:48.07
Or you can call us
at our toll free number
00:27:48.10\00:27:49.75
in United States
at 1800-245-1844.
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Or get us on the
web at www.lmn.org.
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