Laymen Ministries

North India

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Participants: Jeff Reich

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00:35 My name is Sandra Horner. I have been working here in
00:39 India and Nepal since 1999.
00:42 With no one else helping her and her needing help so much I
00:46 finally decided to quit my job and come over here.
00:50 And I'm working here as the director of prayer in the
00:54 Lifestyle Education Center.
01:01 We have had several student missionaries here they have
01:03 been a real blessing.
01:05 At our school we are trying to train adventist young people
01:10 equip them for work in there own villages.
01:20 After nearly sixty hours of traveling
01:22 my cameraman and I finally arrived in India.
01:25 We landed at the airport in Bagdogra
01:27 where we met some of our missionaries and students.
01:30 Sandra Horner oversees our North Indian
01:32 and Nepal projects and operates
01:34 a Lifestyle Education Center.
01:36 We arrived a day later than we'd planned because the airline
01:39 misplaced one of our bags and as a result
01:42 we missed our connecting flight in Canada.
01:44 Thankfully our lost bag caught up with us in Delhi.
01:47 So now we needed to make up for some lost time and
01:49 quickly unpacked our heavier items at a bus stop.
01:55 I guess we're gonna go ahead and go to Nepal right now.
01:57 Its been quite a journey on this one it took us like sixty
02:00 some hours just to get to this point.
02:11 We were planning on visiting the remote village in Nepal
02:13 where some of our student missionaries
02:15 have been working to establish a church for four years.
02:19 To give you an idea how this mission project is moving along
02:22 and how it was started, let me first
02:24 take you back to the beginning.
02:27 We first started working in North India around the year
02:30 2000, and it sprung off our work in Nepal
02:33 under Joel and Joyce Myers.
02:36 I came to Nepal in 1997 to visit and to hold
02:40 a short course and then with the Lord's
02:43 help and Laymen's Ministries I came for a full time work
02:49 starting in January of 1999 so this is about eleven years that
02:53 we've been working together with
02:54 Laymen's Ministries here in Nepal and India.
02:58 After a string of incidents took place such as the
03:01 king and queen of Nepal being assassinated, the rise
03:05 of Maoist insurgents
03:06 and the basic political unrest throughout the country, we
03:09 decided to temporarily at least pull out of nepal.
03:13 Sandra who was working with the Myers
03:15 at the time moved across the border to
03:17 North India and opened a Lifestyle Education Center
03:20 in connection with Laymen Ministries.
03:24 The major objective of our Lifestyle Education Center
03:28 is to work for the Nepali speaking population of both
03:31 Nepal, India and Bhutan in helping to train workers for the
03:36 Seventh-Day Adventist Church
03:38 Those who can just help out in their church as a
03:41 deacon elders as well as those who can work as
03:45 lay pastors and others who can help also in more
03:51 formal positions as pastors in the churches.
03:56 Just a few years ago some of our
03:57 students embarked on such a task in a
03:59 remote village located in east central Nepal.
04:03 From there we had a couple of your men who were very
04:08 interested in sharing
04:09 the gospel with their own country.
04:11 They wanted very much to start in an area where
04:13 there weren't any
04:15 Christians at all.
04:16 As they began their work there they started by building
04:20 a small mud and
04:23 stick house with a thatched roof.
04:25 First we had a baptism of about fourteen people
04:30 there followed by
04:31 another one of twelve or so people.
04:36 This is where we're headed right now so we can see how the work
04:38 there is progressing.
04:54 It was getting late so we decided to get some much
04:57 needed rest at a local
04:59 bed bug infested hotel.
05:12 We've spent the night here at the border of Nepal
05:14 just inside Nepal
05:15 at a little Nepali hotel.
05:17 This morning we're gonna get on a bus and we're gonna
05:19 head into the more
05:21 central region into the Himalaya mountains of Nepal
05:23 to go up and check
05:24 on a church plant project.
05:49 We're almost they're we've been hiking for I don't know
05:52 probably about an
05:53 hour and ten minutes or so
05:55 and it's starting to get dark so we hope to get in there
05:57 before dark it's
05:58 a pretty good hike back in here.
06:01 I guess it's down in that riverbed area right
06:03 down in there
06:04 If you can see that.
06:05 Finally we arrived at the village just
06:08 slightly after dark.
06:16 We woke up cold and hungry early the next morning.
06:20 I slept all night with my clothes on including my shoes,
06:23 my coat, my long
06:24 underwear, a hat, and gloves, under a wool Nepali
06:27 blanket on a hard
06:29 wooden frame bed.
06:31 This was Sabbath morning and we were just in time for a short
06:35 morning devotional.
06:38 We'll be talking here today about the part that each one
06:42 has to play in the
06:43 church, How each one has a responsibility.
06:49 It's a reminder that we all have a large part to play
06:51 in the success or
06:52 failure of our mission as a church to reach those
06:56 in our communities.
07:05 It's Sabbath morning here and we're getting ready to
07:06 go to church, this
07:08 little church here in this village represents several
07:10 different churches
07:12 that we have planted in the various hills around this
07:13 part of Nepal.
07:15 And also one of our teams is planting churches like four
07:17 or five churches
07:18 over in the central part of Nepal.
07:20 We actually hiked into this village and all it was was
07:22 a mud house and we
07:24 were meeting there and Heman and Daniel were two of our
07:26 workers started
07:27 a church plant here and now it's four years later and
07:29 we have this
07:30 little church built.
07:32 And since they were having baptisms that afternoon
07:35 I chose to speak about
07:36 the Significance of baptism and what it really means
07:39 to forsake the ways of
07:40 the world and to follow Christ.
07:42 But the most important for you getting baptized is to have
07:45 a relationship with Jesus Christ.
07:47 Afterwards many of the candidates got up before the
07:50 church and started to
07:51 share a brief imony how God has worked in their life
07:54 and led them to
07:55 this important decision.
07:57 After church we hiked about forty-five minutes through
08:00 deep canyons and
08:01 ravines to find a place with enough water for the baptisms.
08:05 Today we get the great privilege of going out here towards
08:08 the river it's
08:10 a very shallow river but it has a deep spot where we're
08:13 going for baptism,
08:15 this is the third baptism here in Daumoti
08:17 And Pastor Kumar has joined us for these three baptisms.
08:21 Today we have twenty ready for baptism and we're all
08:25 excited about it.
08:26 It was at this beautiful spot at the base of this cliff
08:29 deep in a canyon we
08:31 sang Nepali Christian songs, Prayed and then Pastor Kumar
08:35 baptized nineteen people.
08:37 Jewelry in this culture is a very important part
08:40 of their culture
08:41 because it's a status symbol of how wealthy you are and
08:47 everyone wants to show off how wealthy they are and
08:50 people will respect
08:51 them according to that.
08:58 Before the women were baptized they chose on there own
09:01 to remove there
09:02 jewelry as a way of showing there commitment to God.
09:06 The students from our Lifestyle Education Center take
09:08 the truths of
09:09 the word and experiences they have gained back
09:12 to there own people
09:13 They meet the peoples needs, treat the sick uplift
09:16 Christ who draws
09:18 them unto himself.
09:20 Please keep these souls in your prayers and that they
09:23 will be used by
09:24 God to bring others into the truth.
09:29 We walked back to the village and then participated in the
09:31 Lord's supper and
09:33 the ordinance of humility outside the church as the
09:36 sun was setting.
09:38 It was a beautiful Sabbath.
09:48 To make the most of our day we got up and headed out just
09:51 before sunrise.
09:52 Finally we arrived later that evening at our Lifestyle
09:55 Education Center in
09:56 Mungpoo North India.
09:59 We got in from Nepal last night and we're here at the
10:02 Mungpoo Health and
10:03 Lifestyle Training Center that's operated by Laymen Ministries.
10:06 They have quite a large group of students this year
10:08 and Sandra and
10:09 Terri are having actually morning worship right now.
10:12 6:30 we have morning worship.
10:15 I've been trying to have singing for 20 minutes.
10:20 In the morning we have English hymns and in the evening
10:22 the same hymns
10:24 from the Nepali songbook.
10:26 And then in the mornings I also try to teach a new
10:29 scripture song each week.
10:30 After worship is breakfast.
10:37 For the next couple days we're gonna be here going through
10:39 watching how the
10:40 classes are operat and such and then we're gonna
10:41 go from here to the
10:42 autonomous region of Sikkim where they're going to
10:44 be doing a Daniel
10:45 and Revelation seminar.
10:46 So I'm excited to see the progress thats happened
10:49 we're gonna also
10:50 check out thnew church that's just built up behind
10:51 the center here
10:53 to while we're here.
10:54 When I come to North India I enjoy spending time with
10:56 the students and
10:57 getting to know them better.
10:58 It's important for me to hear their thoughts and
11:01 feelings about the
11:02 school, their struggles and successes.
11:05 It also makes me to know how we can improve our program to make
11:07 it better for the future.
11:10 Many of these students have pretty amazing stories
11:12 how they heard
11:13 about Laymen Ministries and made the decision
11:15 to attend our school.
11:16 Your whole family baptist?
11:18 Yes
11:19 In Assam
11:20 Is there very many Christians in Assam?
11:28 Recently we've been working in the book Great Controversy
11:32 this has been a
11:33 real challenging book.
11:34 We have a class in Nepali and a class English.
11:38 Such things as Bible doctrines, Daniel or Revelation,
11:42 Christian home, basic
11:44 subjects like this.
11:45 The major objective of our Lifestyle Education Center
11:49 is to work for the
11:50 Nepali speaking population of both Nepal, India and
11:53 Bhutan in helping to
11:56 train workers for the Seventh-Day Adventist church.
11:59 We don't charge the students a tuition fee for attending
12:04 our school here.
12:06 Many of them come from quite poor families.
12:10 So we ask the students to help out with a lunch and breakfast
12:15 preparation in the kitchen
12:17 and we have a rotating schedule so that only once every
12:21 other day are
12:22 they in the kitchen.
12:23 and when they aren't in the kitchen then they can be
12:25 learning typing on
12:27 the computer, or a washing there clothes, taking bathe
12:32 or different things like this.
12:37 Every week we need to come into Siliguri to get our
12:42 weekly groceries.
12:44 So get a, forty kilos of potatoes, onions.
12:56 You can see here we're getting our weekly supplies,
12:59 this will last
13:00 us a week and a half or so.
13:04 We're off to the Autonomous region of Sikkim now after
13:06 spending a couple
13:07 days here at the Lifestyle Center.
13:08 A new church has been opened in Rhenock and there the
13:12 church elder has
13:13 invited us to come hold a Daniel and Revelation seminar.
13:16 This should be a real enjoyable time I've never been
13:19 to the autonomous
13:20 region of Sikkim before it's a very cultural area
13:22 in North India.
13:23 We're all packing up our bags bringing out blankets it may be
13:26 a little cold there.
13:28 The program here in North India is Mission Minded and
13:31 designed not only
13:32 to reach the students but to prepare them to teach
13:35 others about God,
13:36 Scripture, Prophecy and the health message.
13:42 Driving in India can be quite Mmmm, treacherous, in fact
13:46 I've always said
13:47 that one is only millimeters away from death on the
13:51 roads in India.
14:00 Looks like we're going to have a short delay, this guy
14:02 thats taking us to
14:04 Sikkim is fuel gauge said that he had fuel but a it's not
14:08 working apparently
14:09 so we are stranded here on our way to Sikkim.
14:14 Not sure whats going to happen, this is part of the
14:16 interesting things of
14:17 doing these kind of trips you never know whats gonna
14:19 happen it makes it
14:20 more of an adventure.
14:23 Since we were traveling in two jeeps we sent the other
14:25 jeep to get some
14:26 fuel, while we waited along side of the road.
14:30 Before long the other driver was back with the much needed fuel.
14:38 We pored it into the jeep and we were back on our way.
14:43 While we made it to Sikkim but now we have another
14:44 obstacle it turns out
14:46 that since this is an autonomous region that the
14:49 Nepali workers that
14:50 are coming with us are not to come into the country
14:52 because they don't
14:53 have there national ID cards
14:55 From Nepal coming into this area and that's unfortunate
15:00 because Joseph is
15:01 our main speaker for this series that's going on
15:03 and he's from Nepal and they're saying that all the Nepali
15:05 people have to go
15:06 back to the Center now and back to India.
15:09 So we're not sure what we're doing yet we're kinda
15:11 regrouping at this point.
15:12 Ok, I will send a Hanna to meet you.......
15:26 Final decision looks like the Nepali students are gonna
15:28 go back to the Center.
15:30 Joseph who's the main speaker does have a Nepali
15:33 passport so he's gonna
15:35 be able to come back tomorrow and maybe the other
15:37 students will come
15:38 back tomorrow to and
15:39 They're thinking if they come in in a smaller group they
15:41 might be able to
15:42 all get back into Sikkim here.
15:43 So we're gonna go on up to another hour into to the
15:47 heartland of Sikkim
15:48 and they're gonna head on back.
15:50 Really disappointing but, what else can you do.
15:56 This highway reminded me of something that you would see
15:58 out of a National
15:59 Geographic's magazine and was quite a frightening experience.
16:05 To go there is not so difficult but takes a little time
16:11 over the roads
16:12 that have been torn by landslides and never seem
16:15 to be kept up very well
16:16 with lots of dust and bumpy roads.
16:19 Finally late that night we reached our
16:22 destination in Sikkim.
16:23 We were surprised and happy to find out the Nepali
16:26 students were on their
16:27 way to the church that was a relief and an answer to prayer.
16:31 The next morning after breakfast the prophecy seminar
16:35 began on schedule.
16:37 Recently they have invited us to the church there
16:41 in Rhenock to help with
16:42 the church members they have knowledge of God but not
16:47 much knowledge
16:48 of his word and so
16:49 they invited us to come and hold programs on Daniel
16:52 and Revelation
16:54 with many commitments here at the center my mother and
16:57 I have not been
16:58 able spend so much time so one of our teachers here
17:02 Joseph and Hanna have
17:05 gone to hold this Daniel and Revelation program.
17:11 Joseph is presenting the classes on Daniel and
17:14 Revelation and Hanna is
17:16 sharing in a simplified version to the children.
17:19 My name is Hanna yesterday I was teaching to the
17:23 children about Daniel
17:26 and his three friends, also about Daniel 2 studying
17:31 about the dream
17:33 of king Nebuchadnezzar.
17:41 Mostly the part that I enjoyed was teaching them about
17:44 the prophecy and
17:46 how God can use even a heathen king to let him know that
17:52 what is going to
17:54 come in the worlds history and I hope that the
17:58 children understood.
18:00 Visiting the homes in the area to invite them to a prophecy
18:03 seminar is very difficult.
18:05 In a place like this you just can't mail out fliers or have
18:09 advertisements on TV and radio like we do in America
18:14 On top of the Adventist church is a megaphone speaker
18:17 that broadcasts
18:19 everything that's happening in the church and it echoes
18:21 across the valley.
18:27 Megaphones like this on top of churches are common all
18:29 through India.
18:30 If people hear something happening or hear there is a
18:33 meeting being held
18:35 they may stop by at the church and see what's going on.
18:42 Joseph is one of our missionaries who works
18:44 closely with Sandra
18:45 and Terri Horner.
18:47 I like the prophecy sequence of the nations that comes
18:51 one after another
18:53 and falls and its tells interestingly in the Bible.
18:57 It tells me about more about a sure existence of God and
19:02 that God is there
19:03 and that he is leading everything and every
19:06 circumstances and every events
19:09 that is taking place in this earth.
19:20 Here at the Rhenock Seventh-Day Adventist church
19:23 in Sikkim the local
19:24 church elder invited me to come and share with the members
19:27 on what baptism is.
19:30 What does it mean, what the steps are in baptism, how
19:34 to get ready and what
19:37 the purpose of baptism is. so today we had a presentation
19:41 on it and it's been
19:43 a blessing to be able to share with them
19:45 how in Christ we can become new and give away our wash away our
19:51 old life in baptism.
19:53 While we were there in Rhenock we took a little excursion
19:56 up to the top of
19:57 the mountain beautiful part of Sikkim it's such a beautiful
20:02 country there in
20:04 the view of the snow capped Himalayas
20:07 we were able to go for a nice outing with the students
20:10 on the pond up there
20:12 and paddle boats it was really enjoyable many of them had never
20:15 been on boats before
20:17 and so they had a great time going around the pond
20:20 there it was
20:21 really enjoyable.
20:23 My name is Joseph Mugar and I'm working in the
20:27 Lifestyle Education
20:28 Center as a teacher and as a translator also and I have been
20:33 working for the last year translating the Great
20:37 Controversy.
20:38 In Nepal from 1999 we started a publishing committee
20:43 to work together
20:45 to try to translate the books of Ellen White into the Nepali
20:48 language it has
20:49 been a very difficult work.
20:52 So many of the people that have promised to do the
20:53 work they have
20:54 never done it and many of the times we have found that
20:59 the translation
21:00 is very poor quality.
21:01 Many sentences are missing many paragraphs are missing
21:05 and so Joseph
21:06 who's just a 7th grade graduate.
21:12 He has been studying the spirit of prophecy over the
21:15 last four or five
21:16 years and his English has grown so much that he's taken
21:20 on the challenge
21:21 of translating Great Controversy.
21:23 My biggest challenge is the words vocabulary words
21:26 it's very difficult
21:28 to understand and the sentence structure is very different.
21:32 I think if I have the time to work continually it will
21:37 take about three
21:38 months or so to finish translation work.
21:42 Please pray for us that we might work efficiently we may
21:46 work for Nepal and
21:48 they may be blessed by this book.
21:52 On our last Sabbath in North India we all went for a hike.
21:57 Towards the top of the mountain we came to a large
21:59 Buddhist temple.
22:01 Buddhism was founded in Nepal and it along with
22:04 Hinduism are the two
22:06 predominate religions in India.
22:08 Its presence in here in this area is obvious as well.
22:12 The building is large and unique and the sound
22:14 of hypnotic drums beating
22:16 will grab the attention of any who passes by.
22:19 We hear in the Bible about demon possession and how
22:23 Jesus with just a
22:24 prayer and a word the demons were gone.
22:29 Some of the challenges working with them here and people
22:32 who from their
22:33 heart did not want to leave separate from the demons has
22:36 been a real trial
22:38 and a challenge in working with the people here.
22:44 One of our young ladies in the women's ministries course
22:48 from the day she was
22:50 married she had problems with demon possession.
22:54 It would attack her and she would just be thrown
22:58 violently around it would
23:01 take several men to hold her down
23:04 and to keep her from running off and a killing herself
23:07 or hurting herself
23:08 severely and so whhe came to the Lifestyle Education
23:11 Center she said
23:12 she was free of this problem but slowly as she let other
23:17 things get in
23:18 the way between her and God satan got the opportunity
23:22 to attack her.
23:24 At first started out very minimal, very short attacks,
23:27 but as the time
23:29 increased some of the attacks would last as long as
23:32 an hour and sometimes
23:36 maybe two hours and with prayer and singing reading
23:44 Gods word she
23:46 would find release but
23:49 It requires on the person who is demon possessed if they
23:53 want freedom that
23:55 they give their heart and their life totally to the Lord.
24:00 For others to work for them it gives a temporary relief,
24:03 but unless they
24:05 themselves seek for it, you can only do so much and
24:10 so this has been a big
24:12 challenge working with people who aren't willing
24:14 to make the 100%
24:15 commitment with the Lord.
24:18 After walking by the Buddhist temple we all stopped to rest in
24:21 a large gazebo.
24:23 It was a nice opportunity for me to share some
24:25 encouraging stories of my
24:26 own spiritual experiences with the students before I left
24:30 to fly to south India.
24:32 Our students will be going out in a few months for their
24:36 field work of one
24:38 year of helping out in evangelism both
24:41 in India and Nepal.
24:43 We need to be able to equip them for this work help them
24:48 to feel that they
24:49 have tools in which to work.
24:54 The challenge of financing the Bible workers is continual need
24:59 that we have.
25:00 As I've been in Nepal and seen the blessings of having
25:03 even just a little
25:04 small portable computer and be able to show
25:07 pictures to people,
25:09 you know people are even here are addicted to television and
25:13 it's hard to keep
25:14 their attention but if we have pictures to show them
25:17 it draws instant crowds.
25:20 We have developed the New Beginnings program
25:23 in Nepali and to have the
25:26 words their in their own language to have pictures
25:29 to go along with it is
25:30 just been a real blessing.
25:32 We also need student missionaries who can come over
25:36 and help those who are
25:39 strong in the their love and knowledge of the Lord, that
25:42 have a desire to
25:45 work with the people love the people and to help share
25:51 the gospel to the
25:52 people here of Nepal and India.
25:55 And of course always there is the needs of building churches
26:00 in different areas.
26:02 We have workers in Nepal and here at the Center right now,
26:07 but some of
26:08 these students are going to be graduating we see
26:10 promise in a number
26:11 of them and it will be helpful if we could have funds
26:16 to be able to
26:17 sponsor, support some of these young people as they go out
26:21 into mission work.
26:23 We're trying to give our students a vision
26:25 of doing mission work
26:28 themselves it's not just for Americans to do mission work
26:31 but they need to be
26:33 able to go to their own people or to new unentered areas.
26:38 One of the rewards you know as we've been trying to teach
26:43 scripture songs
26:44 is to hear the young people singing these
26:46 scripture songs when
26:47 it's not class time.
26:51 I guess that's a teachers reward.
27:23 As you can see there are many projects underway
27:25 in North India.
27:27 From training missionaries, church planting,
27:29 to translating books and
27:30 holding Bible seminars. Even in spite of the
27:33 many challenges
27:34 and struggles Sandra and Terri face they and the
27:37 students are pressing
27:38 forward in faith.
27:40 By the faithfulness of there efforts God is blessing and the
27:44 fruit is coming forth.
27:45 This project in North India and Nepal continues to be
27:48 a blessing and a
27:49 source of truth and hope to many people.
27:59 If you'd like to help support this project or if you
28:02 are interested in
28:03 missionary opportunities, please contact our ministry at Laymen
28:08 Ministries 414 Zapada Rd.
28:11 St. Maries, ID 83861.
28:14 Our email address is office@lmn.org and
28:18 our website is
28:19 www.lmn.org. you can
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