Laymen Ministries has been working in India for going on 00:00:47.26\00:00:49.73 18, 19 years now, so we really understand the culture here, we 00:00:49.73\00:00:52.43 understand the people and the problems that we face. 00:00:52.43\00:00:54.80 And working with people like Pastor Shadrach Samuel and 00:00:54.80\00:00:57.96 Pastor Johnson, being nationals, we've developed a system that is 00:00:57.96\00:01:01.80 very effective in being able to reach people. 00:01:01.80\00:01:04.53 We believe it's a kind of sowing the seed. 00:01:06.86\00:01:09.53 Various churches we go, and we help people to prepare for these 00:01:09.53\00:01:15.00 end times. 00:01:15.00\00:01:15.93 In 2000 we hardly had like 15 to 30 churches. 00:01:17.06\00:01:21.03 But today, around 150 churches. 00:01:21.03\00:01:23.90 We need a spiritual revival, and by God's grace through the help 00:01:23.90\00:01:29.80 of Laymen Ministries, this is what we are trying to do. 00:01:29.80\00:01:34.96 Being the director of Laymen Ministries, I personally come 00:01:40.93\00:01:43.36 and check on all the different projects. 00:01:43.36\00:01:45.06 Pretty much every year I come to India. I go to North India and I 00:01:45.06\00:01:47.76 look at what's happening with our training school up there. 00:01:47.76\00:01:50.26 I go to the Philippines and I check with what's happening with 00:01:50.26\00:01:52.86 our schools there. Making sure that money is being 00:01:52.86\00:01:54.96 used in a proper way, the work is being done effectively and 00:01:54.96\00:01:57.46 efficiently, and also to build a spirit of camaraderie. 00:01:57.46\00:02:00.16 Because of the fact that we're working with mostly in South 00:02:00.16\00:02:03.03 India with Nationals. They are able to speak the 00:02:03.03\00:02:06.26 language, they understand the challenges they face, they can 00:02:06.26\00:02:08.80 do evangelism. They know when they go into a 00:02:08.80\00:02:11.46 home, like the Bible workers for instance, go into a home, they 00:02:11.46\00:02:13.46 know what to say to be able to touch the lives and hearts of 00:02:13.46\00:02:16.40 those people because they can identify with them because 00:02:16.40\00:02:19.13 they're their own people group. 00:02:19.13\00:02:20.96 And so Laymen Ministries over the years here has really 00:02:20.96\00:02:23.86 developed a very good system. 00:02:23.86\00:02:25.46 We'll go door by door. The first one is forming group 00:02:25.46\00:02:29.46 Bible study. It's a kind of friendship, then 00:02:29.46\00:02:32.76 forming group Bible study. Then the third one is kind of 00:02:32.76\00:02:37.00 evangelistic meeting. The fourth one is the follow up 00:02:37.00\00:02:39.80 work and planting churches. What we are doing is, sowing the 00:02:39.80\00:02:43.80 seed through TV and then we have our Bible workers. 00:02:43.80\00:02:47.53 They will follow the addresses and phone the people who call. 00:02:47.53\00:02:51.93 And then we'll hold a meeting in a particular place, and after 00:02:51.93\00:02:56.66 the meeting we'll plant a church. 00:02:56.66\00:02:59.20 We'll hire a place and put a temporary church roof, then 00:02:59.20\00:03:04.60 we'll appoint a layman to hold a church. 00:03:04.60\00:03:08.83 Then after that, try to buy land, then construct a church, 00:03:08.83\00:03:13.23 it's a long process. 00:03:13.23\00:03:15.63 One of our many challenges is, we do not have a different 00:03:15.63\00:03:21.20 program to reach those who are non-Christians. 00:03:21.20\00:03:25.70 In India, Christian population is very small, less than 7%. 00:03:25.70\00:03:31.46 Less than 7%. So you can understand, 80% of our 00:03:31.46\00:03:36.03 population is un-reached. So our greatest challenge is to 00:03:36.03\00:03:41.60 reach people who have never heard of the gospel. 00:03:41.60\00:03:46.76 Laymen Ministries from the beginning to not just with the 00:03:46.76\00:03:51.20 baptism, we have an ongoing program, training them for 00:03:51.20\00:03:55.36 bringing more souls in soul winning and nurturing the 00:03:55.36\00:03:59.46 churches after, even after baptism, providing lay people 00:03:59.46\00:04:03.86 with the literature, with the resources. 00:04:03.86\00:04:07.26 Pastor Johnson took a few minutes to share with me about 00:04:07.26\00:04:10.16 some of the literature they use in evangelism. 00:04:10.16\00:04:12.56 Many of these books which Laymen Ministries helped print, include 00:04:12.56\00:04:15.90 such titles as "The Great Controversy," "Prophets and 00:04:15.90\00:04:18.66 Kings," "Education," "Mount of Blessings," "Life Sketches of 00:04:18.66\00:04:21.76 the Apostle Paul," devotional books and Bible study lessons. 00:04:21.76\00:04:25.13 Laymen Ministries is not just another type evangelism, just 00:04:25.13\00:04:29.23 people coming here preaching, conducting meeting and going 00:04:29.23\00:04:32.76 away. No. 00:04:32.76\00:04:33.86 This has been an ongoing program, a steady permanent work 00:04:33.86\00:04:37.83 beginning from 1994 and it has steadily grown. 00:04:37.83\00:04:41.30 So we're here to stay we're here to really keep training keeping 00:04:41.30\00:04:44.20 this program going, and that's probably one of the unique 00:04:44.20\00:04:46.76 things about Laymen Ministries is that we just haven't come in 00:04:46.76\00:04:49.60 did some kind of project and left. 00:04:49.60\00:04:51.13 We've been here for a long time and continue 00:04:51.13\00:04:53.33 to plan to stay here. 00:04:53.33\00:04:55.20 When we first started coming to India I would stand in a city 00:04:56.86\00:04:59.56 like Chennai and I think it's the sixth largest city in the 00:04:59.56\00:05:02.53 world or the sixth largest city in India. I cant remember but 00:05:02.53\00:05:04.96 it's just teaming with people and I would look and I would say 00:05:04.96\00:05:07.80 "how in the world is the Lord going reach 00:05:07.80\00:05:09.43 all these people?" 00:05:09.43\00:05:10.80 And it just seemed almost impossible and then as we 00:05:10.80\00:05:12.93 started developing the TV ministry here I realized that we 00:05:12.93\00:05:16.06 can take the truth right into the privacy of a home and be 00:05:16.06\00:05:19.16 able to share the truth with the person. 00:05:19.16\00:05:21.46 A person can be having problems in their life and going through 00:05:21.46\00:05:24.06 different things and they can turn on the TV set and there we 00:05:24.06\00:05:26.60 are face to face with that person in the privacy of their 00:05:26.60\00:05:28.83 home sharing the gospel. 00:05:28.83\00:05:30.06 I really believe that in the end times that somehow God is going 00:05:30.06\00:05:33.16 to take the reigns into His own hands and He's going to somehow 00:05:33.16\00:05:36.20 finish this work in a way that's just going to amaze all of us. 00:05:36.20\00:05:39.33 but meanwhile we have the opportunity to be able to share 00:05:39.33\00:05:42.53 the gospel with millions of people through the privacy of 00:05:42.53\00:05:45.73 their own homes in a television set and I can see now a little 00:05:45.73\00:05:49.23 bit, a glimpse of how we can really touch the lives and 00:05:49.23\00:05:52.33 hearts of a lot of different people. 00:05:52.33\00:05:54.56 There are few homes that which we visited. All came to a church 00:05:54.56\00:06:01.66 through the result of TV evangelism. 00:06:01.66\00:06:05.80 Over the course of several days we had the opportunity to visit 00:06:05.80\00:06:09.26 many homes of people whose lives were transformed by Laymen 00:06:09.26\00:06:12.50 Ministries TV programs and DVDs. 00:06:12.50\00:06:14.36 One couple we visited was particularly on fire for God and 00:06:14.36\00:06:18.53 the Sabbath Truth this was the home of Clayton and Jennifer. 00:06:18.53\00:06:22.90 Clayton is a very interesting person. 00:06:22.90\00:06:27.73 He was a boxer. He lived a wild life, drinking, 00:06:27.73\00:06:33.86 all kinds of bad habits. 00:06:33.86\00:06:37.26 And it's amazing how this man has completely changed. 00:06:37.26\00:06:42.10 He was also a catholic. Once he was one of those who 00:06:42.10\00:06:46.83 received our free CD players. And being an Anglo-Indian, he 00:06:46.83\00:06:52.20 could watch all our programs and DVDs. 00:06:52.20\00:06:55.93 And this man was amazed. He went to his priest asking 00:06:55.93\00:06:59.80 them questions. Why is the catholic church 00:06:59.80\00:07:02.93 teaching like this? 00:07:02.93\00:07:04.46 Clayton was born and raised a Catholic while his wife was a 00:07:04.46\00:07:07.63 protestant Christian. 00:07:07.63\00:07:08.90 Once being introduced to the truth about God, His 00:07:08.90\00:07:11.63 commandments and the Sabbath; Clayton was convinced and 00:07:11.63\00:07:14.23 convicted. 00:07:14.23\00:07:15.36 He doesn't just have a mere knowledge of the truth his 00:07:15.36\00:07:18.36 diligent search for truth accompanied by his discoveries 00:07:18.36\00:07:21.43 made a profound impact on his life. 00:07:21.43\00:07:23.46 As a result his passion to share these truths with others should 00:07:23.46\00:07:28.03 be an example to us all. 00:07:28.03\00:07:29.83 Our duty is to teach everyone and tell them the Truth. 00:07:29.83\00:07:32.53 they must come to know, to know the Truth. 00:07:32.53\00:07:35.06 Come to repentance. 00:07:35.06\00:07:36.60 Come to maturity in Grace. 00:07:36.60\00:07:38.73 Bibles is in every house. 00:07:38.73\00:07:40.30 Its up to you to study it. 00:07:40.30\00:07:41.46 [that's true] 00:07:41.46\00:07:43.03 So you don't study it, you're left without an excuse. 00:07:43.03\00:07:46.16 There's no excuse for you. 00:07:46.16\00:07:47.16 You have it in your use and you don't open it. 00:07:47.16\00:07:49.40 And if someone shows you the light, 00:07:49.40\00:07:51.10 you want to turn your face. 00:07:51.10\00:07:52.86 You don't want to hear. 00:07:52.86\00:07:54.20 But if God is speaking, you have to listen, you have to hear, 00:07:54.20\00:07:57.26 because it's the Truth you see. 00:07:57.26\00:07:58.86 Today we have a choice. 00:07:58.86\00:07:59.90 Jesus said "if you love me, keep my commandments." 00:07:59.90\00:08:03.40 I said, there's a condition in that. 00:08:03.40\00:08:04.90 The whole world is praying for the Holy Spirit, but can't hear 00:08:04.90\00:08:07.46 the Holy Spirit. Why? 00:08:07.46\00:08:08.60 The condition. "If you love me, keep my commandments." 00:08:08.60\00:08:11.56 I'll pray to the Father and He'll send you another 00:08:11.56\00:08:13.36 comforter, "even the Spirit of Truth who the world cannot 00:08:13.36\00:08:15.46 receive. 00:08:15.46\00:08:15.83 But who will be with you and in you forever." 00:08:17.23\00:08:19.26 So God's Truth will come to a person who wants it. 00:08:19.26\00:08:23.70 "Those who hunger and thirst after righteousness shall be 00:08:23.70\00:08:25.76 filled" He says. 00:08:25.76\00:08:27.76 So unless you hunger and thirst 00:08:27.76\00:08:29.20 only God can fill you with His Words. 00:08:29.20\00:08:31.23 Then you can go, and you can share with people. 00:08:31.23\00:08:34.83 Another very interesting thing about 00:08:34.83\00:08:36.73 this man; he found the Seventh 00:08:36.73\00:08:38.33 day Sabbath on his own reading the Word of God. 00:08:38.33\00:08:41.36 And when he found the Adventist Church he was so happy, now this 00:08:41.36\00:08:45.90 man is on fire. His wife did not first accept 00:08:45.90\00:08:49.23 the truth, and this man did not force her. 00:08:49.23\00:08:51.93 It is nearly 4 or 5 years now, just recently two months ago the 00:08:51.93\00:08:56.93 wife on her own decided to take baptism and both husband and 00:08:56.93\00:09:01.76 wife were baptized. 00:09:01.76\00:09:03.43 At first Jennifer wasn't really too convinced about the Sabbath 00:09:03.43\00:09:06.83 or it's importance. When she finally investigated deeper she 00:09:06.83\00:09:10.10 became restless and approached other Christians about the 00:09:10.10\00:09:13.23 Sabbath including her pastor. 00:09:13.23\00:09:15.00 Since pastor said this is done away at the cross and then God 00:09:15.00\00:09:19.06 has given us grace and all this. 00:09:19.06\00:09:21.26 We thought ok, that's it. That's the way it is. 00:09:21.26\00:09:23.83 [and that's good enough] 00:09:23.83\00:09:25.20 Whenever I ask anyone about the Sabbath day they'd say it's a 00:09:25.20\00:09:28.63 cult, and they're making one person very prominent and all 00:09:28.63\00:09:31.93 these things. And also you better be careful. 00:09:31.93\00:09:34.46 This is what they always used to tell me. 00:09:34.46\00:09:36.96 And I used to ask him and he says no, this is what the Bible 00:09:36.96\00:09:39.76 says. You don't have to see anyone, I 00:09:39.76\00:09:41.50 am looking at the Word of God and telling you that it is it. 00:09:41.50\00:09:44.40 And that's all. He'd play the CD. And I'd be 00:09:44.40\00:09:47.26 doing my work and I'd be listening, but like I'd never 00:09:47.26\00:09:50.76 open myself to it, you know? 00:09:50.76\00:09:52.70 Then recently now, one of his parents. 00:09:52.70\00:09:55.70 I think pastor gave him the CD. 00:09:55.70\00:09:58.20 Actually he brought a set of Mark Woodman. 00:09:58.20\00:10:01.63 He started talking and I listened. 00:10:01.63\00:10:04.40 I only just listened to one CD. 00:10:04.40\00:10:07.06 It's was like something was troubling me. 00:10:07.06\00:10:09.23 And again I listened. And it was bringing me back. 00:10:09.23\00:10:12.13 Come listen and I listened. I think 15 no? 00:10:12.13\00:10:14.70 15 CDs. 00:10:14.70\00:10:15.96 The full thing I listened to and that's it. 00:10:15.96\00:10:18.50 I became so... I was sick. 00:10:18.50\00:10:20.36 I didn't know what was wrong with me. 00:10:20.36\00:10:22.86 I couldn't sleep. I couldn't eat. 00:10:22.86\00:10:25.16 I've had that happened to many friends their like "no 00:10:25.16\00:10:27.50 this can't be true! This can't be true!" 00:10:27.50\00:10:28.80 Then you listen some more. 00:10:28.80\00:10:30.66 "No! this cant be true!" 00:10:30.66\00:10:31.90 And then he said what.... we said no I listened to this Mark 00:10:31.90\00:10:35.10 Woodman. And he's a layman but, it's such 00:10:35.10\00:10:37.30 a nice thing. I said he explained everything. 00:10:37.30\00:10:39.80 And he's gone through all the details. 00:10:39.80\00:10:42.20 I mean, he's a layman. What gives him the trouble of 00:10:42.20\00:10:45.50 doing all this? 00:10:45.50\00:10:46.56 That pastor, ok, he's a pastor he has to do it. 00:10:46.56\00:10:49.00 He's taken the job. 00:10:49.00\00:10:49.80 But not a layman. [laughing] 00:10:49.80\00:10:50.83 Not a layman, I said why should he do it I said? 00:10:50.83\00:10:52.83 Is something really...and after seeing it 00:10:52.83\00:10:54.26 I'm so etcetera, etcetera. 00:10:54.26\00:10:55.70 Something's wrong with me. I can't explain it. 00:10:55.70\00:10:58.46 I cannot even eat for three days. 00:10:58.46\00:11:00.50 I can't sleep. I just can't enjoy anything 00:11:00.50\00:11:02.63 [laughing]. 00:11:02.63\00:11:03.86 And this is one those couples who are on fire for the Lord. 00:11:03.86\00:11:08.96 I gave them hundreds of DVDs and they go on distributing to other 00:11:08.96\00:11:14.60 catholics and Anglo-Indians. 00:11:14.60\00:11:17.20 And wherever I go, If I'm in a tea shop, 00:11:17.20\00:11:18.73 I will talk about Christ. 00:11:18.73\00:11:20.46 Anywhere, if I go to the market and see someone... 00:11:20.46\00:11:23.50 I'm not ashamed of the gospel. 00:11:23.50\00:11:25.50 Wherever I go, wherever I go. I'm not ashamed. 00:11:25.50\00:11:27.83 So I go to houses. I speak to people in the house. 00:11:27.83\00:11:31.66 Wherever I go, wherever I go, 00:11:32.90\00:11:34.30 I give the Sabbath Truth. 00:11:35.83\00:11:37.46 Our DVD ministry has been greatly blessed, it has been 00:11:37.46\00:11:42.40 very effective. We have distributed thousands 00:11:42.40\00:11:46.53 and thousands of DVDs. 00:11:46.53\00:11:48.73 With our TV viewers, when they write to us and when we know 00:11:48.73\00:11:53.33 they can follow English, they can understand, we send them our 00:11:53.33\00:11:58.16 English sermons, 00:11:58.16\00:11:59.56 or of our various other speakers like Pastor Mark Finley, Pastor 00:11:59.56\00:12:04.66 Doug Batchelor. And our local language sermons also. 00:12:04.66\00:12:08.83 Many people have expressed appreciation and some people 00:12:08.83\00:12:15.80 have been baptized only through this DVD ministry, this is a 00:12:15.80\00:12:20.23 very great thing. 00:12:20.23\00:12:22.10 It's been really amazing you know, there has been cases like 00:12:22.10\00:12:25.13 one family that was a Hindu family and the wife was going 00:12:25.13\00:12:28.03 through some deep turmoil in her life. 00:12:28.03\00:12:29.96 She watched one of our TV programs and it really touched 00:12:29.96\00:12:32.56 her heart. 00:12:32.56\00:12:33.53 She started calling in on a regular basis. 00:12:33.53\00:12:36.03 Finally she was interested in having the Bible workers come 00:12:36.03\00:12:39.53 but was afraid of what her husband would think because he 00:12:39.53\00:12:42.96 was a high caste Hindu man. 00:12:42.96\00:12:44.73 And what ended up happening is they arranged a meeting away 00:12:44.73\00:12:48.30 from her home. And they ended up starting Bible 00:12:48.30\00:12:51.13 studies with her. 00:12:51.13\00:12:52.30 One day she said my "husband's gone" so, they invited the 00:12:52.30\00:12:54.96 Bible workers to come over to the house and to have a Bible 00:12:54.96\00:12:57.56 study there. 00:12:57.56\00:12:58.83 And in the middle of the Bible study her husband came home, and 00:12:58.83\00:13:01.43 you could imagine he was really disappointed, he's a high caste 00:13:01.43\00:13:04.40 Hindu. Seeing his wife studying with 00:13:04.40\00:13:06.06 these Christian people and he became furious. 00:13:06.06\00:13:08.30 But at the same time he knew that his wife had been 00:13:08.30\00:13:11.06 struggling with a lot of sever depression and he had seen the 00:13:11.06\00:13:14.36 changes that had happened to her over the last several months. 00:13:14.36\00:13:17.83 And he started to understand that this came about from her 00:13:17.83\00:13:21.23 studying the Bible and her new found faith in Christ. 00:13:21.23\00:13:24.33 And so he generally accepted her desire to want to become a 00:13:24.33\00:13:27.43 Christian. 00:13:27.43\00:13:28.56 So he even started taking her to church on Sabbath morning. 00:13:28.56\00:13:31.06 Dropping her off and then driving away and doing different 00:13:31.06\00:13:33.53 things and then coming picking her up at church. 00:13:33.53\00:13:35.66 And one Sabbath morning he pulled up to the church. 00:13:35.66\00:13:37.93 He got there early and the sermon was going on and 00:13:37.93\00:13:40.16 sometimes outside the churches 00:13:40.16\00:13:41.86 they have these loud speakers there. 00:13:41.86\00:13:43.23 And he listened to the sermon and he was touched by the sermon 00:13:43.23\00:13:46.23 and so he actually after that started every once in a while 00:13:46.23\00:13:49.06 coming and parking his car and 00:13:49.06\00:13:50.80 just listening to the sermon outside. 00:13:50.80\00:13:52.43 And then eventually he got to where 00:13:52.43\00:13:53.80 he started coming in the building. 00:13:53.80\00:13:55.30 And praise God that family was 00:13:55.30\00:13:57.00 baptized into the church and it all started 00:13:57.00\00:13:58.93 through this TV ministry. 00:13:58.93\00:14:00.26 It shows how it can go into a home, can touch a person's life 00:14:00.26\00:14:03.93 and it can draw people into the truth. 00:14:03.93\00:14:06.30 This shows how our program works, from sowing the seed 00:14:06.30\00:14:13.70 through TV and then evangelistic meeting then giving books, Bible 00:14:13.70\00:14:21.36 study and planting churches and then not only planting churches 00:14:21.36\00:14:25.76 nurturing the people. 00:14:25.76\00:14:27.70 Nurturing the people is exactly what we were doing one afternoon 00:14:27.70\00:14:30.83 at an Adventist Church in Chennai. 00:14:30.83\00:14:32.83 The church where I'm standing is started through the fruits of 00:14:32.83\00:14:37.06 Laymen Ministry India Bible workers. 00:14:37.06\00:14:39.33 Since 2005 the church is existing. 00:14:39.33\00:14:41.90 Today more then 50 believers are attending every Sabbath service, 00:14:41.90\00:14:47.30 and this church is one of the best examples how Laymen 00:14:47.30\00:14:51.73 Ministry, it's not one thats sowing the seed but focusing 00:14:51.73\00:14:56.36 planting churches in various parts of India. 00:14:56.36\00:15:00.36 So this is the little church that was raised up in 2001? Is 00:15:00.36\00:15:03.53 that what year it was? Yeah? Ok, good. 00:15:03.53\00:15:05.66 We'd come to hear some of the testimonies of the Bible workers 00:15:05.66\00:15:08.63 and to pray with some of the women who were asking for 00:15:08.63\00:15:11.26 special prayer. 00:15:11.26\00:15:11.46 Her name is Shandra Kumari and her husband is to take a lot of 00:15:12.76\00:15:18.46 hard cleaning alcohol. 00:15:18.46\00:15:20.56 He's drinking a lot. 00:15:20.56\00:15:21.63 Shandra Kumari's husband suffered from alcoholic 00:15:21.63\00:15:24.26 poisoning, providentially Laymen Ministry's Bible worker, Joseph, 00:15:24.26\00:15:27.73 had just visited the house at that time. 00:15:27.73\00:15:29.93 And upon learning of her husband's condition suggested 00:15:29.93\00:15:32.83 that he try taking charcoal. As a result her husband 00:15:32.83\00:15:36.40 recovered and they both have been 00:15:36.40\00:15:38.33 receiving Bible studies and now attend the local Seventh day 00:15:38.33\00:15:41.20 Adventist church every Sabbath. 00:15:41.20\00:15:43.06 And their story is a very interesting story, her husband 00:15:43.06\00:15:47.56 is working in the electrical department. 00:15:47.56\00:15:50.86 Stella's husband is a telephone line man, which means he has to 00:15:50.86\00:15:54.30 climb up the telephone poles to repair the lines. 00:15:54.30\00:15:56.96 While working one day he fell and was taken 00:15:56.96\00:15:59.40 to near by Hospital. 00:15:59.40\00:16:00.63 The Bible workers were providentially visiting that 00:16:00.63\00:16:03.26 Hospital and took time to visit with her husband. 00:16:03.26\00:16:05.76 After his recovery Bible studies started with 00:16:05.76\00:16:08.63 the couple at their home. 00:16:08.63\00:16:09.86 Both of them were excited about the message and today they 00:16:09.86\00:16:12.76 attend the Adventist church and watch our television programs 00:16:12.76\00:16:15.63 regularly. 00:16:15.63\00:16:16.86 This again is another example how Laymen Ministries outreach 00:16:16.86\00:16:20.33 with Bible workers, works in tandem with the television 00:16:20.33\00:16:23.53 ministry and the local churches. 00:16:23.53\00:16:25.50 These are just a couple examples of many more stories, every 00:16:25.50\00:16:29.16 Sabbath at this tiny church 40 members along with their 00:16:29.16\00:16:32.50 children attend church every Sabbath. 00:16:32.50\00:16:34.86 After I met with these women I shared a brief message about the 00:16:34.86\00:16:38.46 importance of Lay workers in the church 00:16:38.46\00:16:40.36 and then prayed with them. 00:16:40.36\00:16:42.30 We prayed specifically for a couple of women and then a third 00:16:42.30\00:16:45.66 stranger came forward for prayer. 00:16:45.66\00:16:47.53 And then the unexpected happened. 00:16:47.53\00:16:50.23 She became demon possessed! 00:16:50.23\00:16:52.43 [screaming: "Don't pray! Don't pray! 00:16:54.46\00:16:58.16 Don't pray for me!"] 00:16:58.16\00:17:01.56 [Pastor Shadrach praying] 00:17:01.56\00:17:44.10 We were finishing praying for this one lady and there was this 00:18:11.63\00:18:14.53 one lady there that we didn't know where she had came from. 00:18:14.53\00:18:16.36 Turned out that she was a catholic lady and she came there 00:18:16.36\00:18:20.56 because she was seeking help. 00:18:20.56\00:18:22.20 But as soon as we started to pray, 00:18:22.20\00:18:23.56 She was telling us not to pray she said "don't pray, don't 00:18:23.56\00:18:27.13 pray, don't pray for me!" she said. 00:18:27.13\00:18:29.36 And she fell on the floor and she was gnashing her teeth and 00:18:29.36\00:18:33.30 it was quite evident demon activity. 00:18:33.30\00:18:35.73 And Pastor Shadrach immediately put his hands on her forehead 00:18:35.73\00:18:38.53 and started praying for her and commanding 00:18:38.53\00:18:40.46 the demon to come out. You know, 00:18:40.46\00:18:42.10 calling on the name of Christ. 00:18:42.10\00:18:43.43 And when we prayed finally she became quiet. 00:18:43.43\00:18:46.80 Then she immediately.... and this is the way I think that 00:18:46.80\00:18:49.60 should happen, that I believe should happen because Christ is 00:18:49.60\00:18:52.60 more powerful then demons, then immediately she fell to the 00:18:52.60\00:18:55.50 floor and immediately a calm came over her. 00:18:55.50\00:18:57.76 These people who are possessed after we pray they fall down and 00:19:01.10\00:19:05.16 they lay unconsciously, after some time they get up and they 00:19:05.16\00:19:09.56 are normal. 00:19:09.56\00:19:11.03 One of the things that they were saying is that he was telling me 00:19:21.60\00:19:24.76 when he is coming across this kind of demon activity, that its 00:19:24.76\00:19:27.76 like talking to the devil. 00:19:27.76\00:19:29.13 They'll say who they are, where they came from and such 00:19:29.13\00:19:31.86 This case is like classic case 00:19:31.86\00:19:34.00 of how it really should be dealt with. 00:19:34.00\00:19:35.36 He immediately put his hands on her, prayed for her and then 00:19:35.36\00:19:37.93 she became unconscious and 00:19:37.93\00:19:39.43 then when she woke up she was much better. 00:19:39.43\00:19:41.03 But she was actually from what they were telling me looking for 00:19:41.03\00:19:43.80 a place to go to find deliverance from this demon 00:19:43.80\00:19:45.93 harassment that she'd been having. 00:19:45.93\00:19:47.50 So that was quite the interesting experience for sure. 00:19:47.50\00:19:50.43 When we saw that lady suddenly acting different, it is amazing 00:19:50.43\00:19:56.40 and we still don't...I do not know how she has been talking 00:19:56.40\00:20:01.43 like a spirit of a dead person. 00:20:01.43\00:20:04.66 And often this happens like that. 00:20:04.66\00:20:07.46 They would say "I am from so and so and I'm such and such a place 00:20:07.46\00:20:12.16 and I have possessed this woman!" 00:20:12.16\00:20:14.60 But what we do is we will pray earnestly and our Bible workers 00:20:14.60\00:20:19.60 will take fast and they will... whole day they will sit in the 00:20:19.60\00:20:24.60 church and we'll invite them in the church and we'll pray. 00:20:24.60\00:20:29.43 Sometimes when it is repeated we fast and pray for such people 00:20:29.43\00:20:33.46 and they have permanent relief. 00:20:33.46\00:20:35.53 They have to have a willingness inside to really release that 00:20:35.53\00:20:38.50 demon and to stop the things that are causing those 00:20:38.50\00:20:40.96 demon...demonic influences in their life too. 00:20:40.96\00:20:43.16 They have to stop that kind of association if they really want 00:20:43.16\00:20:46.16 to be free from that kind of demon activity. 00:20:46.16\00:20:48.50 Why do you think it is so common in India that you see so many 00:20:48.50\00:20:51.40 people that have like this kind of demonic activity? 00:20:51.40\00:20:53.86 We see this lady, there is nothing they can do, she is a 00:20:53.86\00:20:57.83 Catholic lady. 00:20:57.83\00:20:58.80 oh. 00:20:58.80\00:20:59.76 The Catholicism is almost like Hinduism here. 00:20:59.76\00:21:02.90 I have observed that this is seen mostly among ignorant 00:21:02.90\00:21:07.46 people, unlearned people. that's one thing, if at all if 00:21:07.46\00:21:12.36 you see this among learning people it's very rare. 00:21:12.36\00:21:16.60 Maybe it's because of the fear 00:21:16.60\00:21:19.06 and their belief in this Hindu or heathen gods. 00:21:19.06\00:21:23.06 And what we witnessed on Wednesday, that woman happens to 00:21:23.06\00:21:27.46 be a catholic believer and this is another observation, 00:21:27.46\00:21:31.73 catholicism and Hinduism we see not very much difference there. 00:21:31.73\00:21:36.60 For example you see a procession there with the Hindu 00:21:36.60\00:21:39.66 deity they're carrying our catholic virgin Mary statue. 00:21:39.66\00:21:45.13 You will not know the difference whether it is Hindu or 00:21:45.13\00:21:49.43 Christian. So even though that woman was a 00:21:49.43\00:21:52.73 Catholic lady I am sure she has this Hindu Philosophy mind, 00:21:52.73\00:21:57.33 worshipping idols and trying to appease God and having fear. 00:21:57.33\00:22:03.13 I think these are some of the reasons. 00:22:03.13\00:22:06.06 With the practices and lifelong traditions of false worship in 00:22:06.06\00:22:09.40 India, demonic activity is not uncommon 00:22:09.40\00:22:11.93 as the vast majority of India's population have heard nothing of 00:22:11.93\00:22:16.10 the gospel. As Pastor Shadrach stated 80% of 00:22:16.10\00:22:18.93 India is completely un-reached for Christ. 00:22:18.93\00:22:21.93 For this reason Laymen Ministries is in a very unique 00:22:21.93\00:22:25.23 and profound position to reach the multitudes with the Truth. 00:22:25.23\00:22:28.83 Why? 00:22:28.83\00:22:29.80 Because our Christian TV programs are airing on a 00:22:29.80\00:22:32.66 mainstream Hindu network Jaya Television, as a result these 00:22:32.66\00:22:36.53 programs are bearing a lot of fruit and a positive result. 00:22:36.53\00:22:40.30 We are receiving a lot of letters. 00:22:40.30\00:22:42.80 Not very many baptisms but one thing I have observed, people 00:22:42.80\00:22:47.20 come to know Adventists as Christians for the first time. 00:22:47.20\00:22:51.40 Many people have the idea that Seventh-day Adventists 00:22:51.40\00:22:55.93 they are a cult. 00:22:55.93\00:22:57.60 Now after our TV presentation they come to me they are 00:22:57.60\00:23:01.33 surprised "You believe in the Bible you believe in 00:23:01.33\00:23:03.63 Jesus Christ?" 00:23:03.63\00:23:04.93 It is a surprise to them, so our TV ministry in Telegu language 00:23:04.93\00:23:09.93 is a great blessing. People come to know 00:23:09.93\00:23:12.96 who Seventh-day Adventists are. 00:23:12.96\00:23:14.46 As far as I know in our whole division, southern Asia 00:23:14.46\00:23:19.10 division. Laymen Ministries is the first to 00:23:19.10\00:23:22.60 start the TV ministry. This has been, beginning 00:23:22.60\00:23:27.70 from 2000 or so we have continued nearly for ten years. 00:23:27.70\00:23:33.30 One of the problems we face we go use secular studios to record 00:23:33.30\00:23:36.10 our programs, Pastor Johnson and Paster Shadrach are under an 00:23:36.10\00:23:39.60 immense amount of pressure 00:23:39.60\00:23:41.06 because they go in there, they're watching the time, 00:23:41.06\00:23:42.36 they know if they go over time their gonna 00:23:42.36\00:23:44.10 get charged extra amount of rupees. 00:23:44.10\00:23:45.86 If we have our own studio we can do things in a more casual 00:23:45.86\00:23:48.50 manner, we can plan things, we can develop programs that will 00:23:48.50\00:23:51.26 even be more effective then the ones we have. 00:23:51.26\00:23:53.36 Soon we are planning to start a Hindi television program because 00:23:53.36\00:23:57.30 in India the potential audience of Hindu speaking is 750 million 00:23:57.30\00:24:04.00 people, and also apart from that those who are in Pakistan those 00:24:04.00\00:24:09.43 who are in the middle east can understand Hindi. 00:24:09.43\00:24:12.23 So the potential audience will be more then 750 million people. 00:24:12.23\00:24:18.23 We have been looking for land to build a studio on for a few 00:24:18.23\00:24:21.70 years. One afternoon I was out with 00:24:21.70\00:24:23.70 Pastor Johnson and Paster Shadrach, we looked at a few 00:24:23.70\00:24:26.80 different potential properties. 00:24:26.80\00:24:28.76 This is one of the places that we're looking at a piece of 00:24:28.76\00:24:31.46 property to buy for a Laymen Ministries office and studio, 00:24:31.46\00:24:34.13 and it's the end of rainy season right now so there's a lot of 00:24:34.13\00:24:36.93 floating water in this area so what we would normally have to 00:24:36.93\00:24:39.76 do most of the places in this part of India anyhow is you have 00:24:39.76\00:24:42.60 to build up the property with 00:24:42.60\00:24:44.10 some kind of pit run and rock fill. 00:24:44.10\00:24:45.83 But anyhow we're looking at a piece right back in there and 00:24:45.83\00:24:49.26 possibly this area where this little house is at and this is 00:24:49.26\00:24:52.76 the silicon valley of south India, this area so real-estate 00:24:52.76\00:24:56.20 here has been skyrocketing the last 10 years. 00:24:56.20\00:24:58.80 Yeah this is an incredible housing development here. 00:24:58.80\00:25:02.06 Where are we at right now? 00:25:07.70\00:25:09.73 Just for one house? 00:25:11.70\00:25:14.73 We have been carefully pursuing plans to build a studio in 00:25:14.73\00:25:18.00 Chennai now for several years. Either the price wasn't right or 00:25:18.00\00:25:21.56 there were complications with the location. 00:25:21.56\00:25:24.00 So we continued to pray and only a few days later 00:25:24.00\00:25:26.66 God answered our prayers! 00:25:26.66\00:25:28.40 Just this morning while we were here in India we were offered 5 00:25:28.40\00:25:31.73 cents of land. Thats roughly maybe a quarter of 00:25:31.73\00:25:34.23 an acre or a little bit less of property here by Paster 00:25:34.23\00:25:37.16 Shadrach's brother Meshach Samuel 00:25:37.16\00:25:39.43 who is a doctor in America. 00:25:39.43\00:25:40.50 And I told him that we are looking for land. 00:25:40.50\00:25:43.70 And I suggested to him why not we give at least 3 cents of our 00:25:43.70\00:25:48.23 land to be registered in Laymen Ministries name. 00:25:48.23\00:25:51.70 And I'm glad he told me "why 3 cents 00:25:51.70\00:25:54.70 lets give 5 cents" he said. Apart from that 5 cents another 00:25:54.70\00:25:58.63 10 cents is available of our land which my brother 00:25:58.63\00:26:03.13 wants to give to Laymen Ministries for the use of 00:26:03.13\00:26:06.76 evangelism in the memory of our parents. 00:26:06.76\00:26:09.26 And that's really an answer to prayer because we've been 00:26:09.26\00:26:11.13 spending the last year and a half 00:26:11.13\00:26:12.53 looking for a piece of property. 00:26:12.53\00:26:13.73 We can start building on this immediately, we need to buy some 00:26:13.73\00:26:16.86 cameras, the studio we need to build, all together probably for 00:26:16.86\00:26:20.03 around $60,000 dollars we could equip this studio to be able 00:26:20.03\00:26:23.06 to do our own in-house production. 00:26:23.06\00:26:24.96 And not have to be wasting money going off to secular studios and 00:26:24.96\00:26:28.50 having programming done. So thats a really God-send that 00:26:28.50\00:26:31.46 happened just today. 00:26:31.46\00:26:33.90 Now we have secured land to help this television ministry 00:26:33.90\00:26:36.96 grow. We are also seeking to increase 00:26:36.96\00:26:39.26 the number of Bible workers who will go out and reap the seeds 00:26:39.26\00:26:42.20 from our TV broadcasts. Our Bible workers will go door 00:26:42.20\00:26:45.40 to door to hand out literature, DVDs and to offer 00:26:45.40\00:26:48.80 to do Bible studies. 00:26:48.80\00:26:50.76 In the last two years has it gotten more difficult to find 00:26:53.36\00:26:56.23 people interested in having Bible studies? 00:26:56.23\00:26:58.36 They said "no!" 00:26:58.36\00:27:00.10 Amazing that they're saying that it's not more difficult. 00:27:00.10\00:27:02.86 Explain to me why it's not difficult to find Bible studies. 00:27:02.86\00:27:05.63 She says they have a lot of experience how to reach 00:27:05.63\00:27:13.73 the un-reached, how to give the Bible study, 00:27:13.73\00:27:16.40 they know the strategy now. 00:27:16.40\00:27:18.96 I asked for Bible workers about their strategy for studying the 00:27:18.96\00:27:22.53 Bible and generally they said they'll start by sharing about 00:27:22.53\00:27:25.96 creation and a single God who created it. 00:27:25.96\00:27:28.26 Then they discuss sin and the need of redemption followed by 00:27:28.26\00:27:31.66 the prophesies and verses that prove Jesus is the Messiah. 00:27:31.66\00:27:35.20 Once a person has an understanding of the gospel 00:27:35.20\00:27:37.80 message, from there we'll branch off into other types of studies 00:27:37.80\00:27:41.23 like on the state of the dead or hell. 00:27:41.23\00:27:43.26 And end time Bible prophesies. 00:27:43.26\00:27:45.03 Due to the success of the Bible worker program we're planning to 00:27:45.03\00:27:48.56 double the number of Bible workers 00:27:48.56\00:27:50.53 so we can have two teams. 00:27:50.53\00:27:51.96 So many people in South India are still in spiritual bondage, 00:27:51.96\00:27:56.46 slaves of ignorance, false Gods and even demonic possession. 00:27:56.46\00:28:01.03 80% of the country is still Non-Christian which makes our 00:28:01.03\00:28:04.46 work in South India a very important one. 00:28:04.46\00:28:06.96 We are doing our best to try to maximize the potential for a 00:28:06.96\00:28:10.46 successful strategy of outreach combining our Bible workers, 00:28:10.46\00:28:14.10 Evangelism and the TV ministry. 00:28:14.10\00:28:16.20 If you'd like to get involved with Laymen Ministries please 00:28:16.20\00:28:20.16 contact us at 414 ZAPADA RD. 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