Our spiritual
journey is gonna continue.
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In fact, at this point,
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the programs are gonna
take a really interesting twist.
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We're gonna be talking
about things like alcohol,
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angels and even Willie Nelson.
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In fact, I'd like to show you
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how to cut
lumber with a chainsaw.
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But you know, more than that,
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what I'm really hoping
is we go through this series
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of programs
called Spiritual Journeys
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is that you will
catch your vision
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of how God has a special journey
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just for you and your family.
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This is the second
program in a series
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entitled Spiritual Journeys.
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Each program is an hour long,
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so if you're
watching this on TV,
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unfortunately, you're only
gonna get half of this program.
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There are several
programs in this whole series
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entitled Spiritual Journeys.
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this whole program
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please contact
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phone number, or website at
the end of this presentation.
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And one thing that we determined
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in our hearts years ago
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what we're gonna do as
we start praying about this
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and thinking about
moving up into the country
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was it would be really easy
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to be so
consumed in trying to um--
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spend all your time building
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and spend all your time
trying to get the house going
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and stuff that you
would neglect your dedication
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and your spiritual
commitment to God so,
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we thought about
the story of Daniel
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and we decided
that three times a day
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that we were gonna
give our hearts to the Lord.
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In the morning, we would
get up and have our devotions,
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we would stop mid-afternoon
and have a special prayer
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and then in the evenings,
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we would always
have family worship
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and we had one small child
when we first moved up here.
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We decided to
keep that as a priority
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as we started doing this.
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You know when we were mixing up
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the cement for
the-- foundation, to me,
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it was amazing
and we started here
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filling this wheelbarrow
with cement and rocks
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and sand and
water and it was like--
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mixing this big,
big batch of dough
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but you are stirring
it with this straw board,
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barely able to move it.
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It was-- I don't know, to me,
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it was just
amazing to watch cement
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being made in a wheelbarrow.
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This was our first experience,
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I want to honestly
say that I had no ability
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of other than what Jerry
and Linda Warnick shared with us
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about the
principles of how to do this.
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We were what we call
North Idaho greenhorns
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you know and we ended up
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digging this
foundation by hand here
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and put these rocks
in and as you look at it,
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we have a saying
here at the Ministry,
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this is the crooked
house that Jeff built
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and these rocks here
are all placed in by hands,
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we used ah-- slabs
that were left over
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from the chainsaw
mill in cutting the lumber.
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This particular siding
on the outside the house
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is some of the
purchase siding that we bought.
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And the rest of the
structural material for this,
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and a lot of the
cedar siding on the outside
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of this house was all
cut with a chainsaw mill.
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All the sub floor, all
the inside of the house,
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everything, in
fact this main structure
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when we-- just got
the main structure up
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and enclosed and we were
living in it, we had you know,
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if you're gonna have a
hard time believing this,
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we had about $3,200
into the whole house.
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I know that seems unheard of but
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you have to
consider these windows here,
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these windows here,
we ended up getting out
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and behind the glass
shops, there were rejects,
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there were defects,
sometimes we got them for free.
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Some of them were
blemished, we paid,
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you know, $5 a piece for,
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the same with
some of these other,
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other windows we have here.
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One of the other challenges
we had to where we were building
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this place was my wife started
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telling about our
makeshift kitchen in houses,
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old wooden camper
that we were living in,
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was refrigeration,
you have to realize
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that we lived up
here without electricity
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and without running water
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and we didn't have any of
the luxuries of city living
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and we needed a refrigerator.
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Do you remember?
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Well, we cut a
whole on the ground
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and we filled the
whole with sawdust
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and then we lined
the sawdust with wood
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and because the ground
stayed at certain temperature,
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we were able to keep
fruits and vegetables in it.
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We had keep um,
leftovers down bed,
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as long as we didn't
have any dairy products
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or meat products in
it, we were pretty safe.
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And what we did is we had
a piece of insulation board
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that we would put over top of it
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that was like about this thick.
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And that would-- the
ground temperature here
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as clay soil like I
mentioned about the mud ruts,
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the clay soil is pretty cool.
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Do you remember what
happened one morning?
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Yeah, one morning I was
studying at my table in here
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after we had the
house established
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after a couple years
and I looked out there,
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and there was a
great big huge black bear
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in our refrigerator hole
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and we are living on
about $35 a week at that time
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and this bear had just
got into all our groceries
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that we were buying
and I remember chasing,
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I was I kind of just reacted
and I ran towards the bear.
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I know you're going to
think I'm a little crazy
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but I ran towards the bear
and I started screaming at him,
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making much noise
and the bear ran off
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into the forest
and I was chasing him
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and as I was chasing
him, the bear just stopped.
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And now, if you have
studied the book of Daniel,
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you know about the bear
that's the bear of Medo-Persia.
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You know he is the bear
with the three ribs in his mouth
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well the bear has
lifted up on one side,
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well bears do that, you know,
I found out that this big bear
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who I was only
about 30 feet behind,
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he lifted up on one side
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and he turned
around and he looked at me
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and I could tell
what he was thinking.
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He was thinking why am I
running from this little guy.
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And I look at him and I thought
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what on the world am I
doing chasing this black bear,
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this black bear's one
of the bigger black bears
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I've ever seen in my life
and I ran back down to the house
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and locked my bear proof door
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which I will show
you in just a second.
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But just some
of those adventures
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that take place we you
move to the country, you know.
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It was funny to watch the bear
because he is down in the hole
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and he has got his nose
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and he is rolling
around this melon,
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trying to get a bite on it,
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but he's thrown
corn out this way
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and corn out that way.
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These were precious commodities,
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we were a little
bit upset at the bear.
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Yeah, we were--
really, really poor.
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But let's go ahead
over to the house here
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'cause we're
mentioning all this lumber
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we have cut with a
chainsaw mill on this house
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except for some of the
cedar siding right here.
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But this is our bear proof door,
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this is a door
that we had actually
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cut with chainsaw lumber
and outside it's all cedar--
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we just recently upgraded
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to this really nice
modern door right here
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just a couple years ago
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'cause we needed to actually
seal it off better for winter
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but I just couldn't
get rid of this door
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and this is our bear proof door.
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And I want to show it to,
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this door is three inches thick,
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the outside as
one inch of cedar.
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The inside is
one inch of red fir
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and the inside of the
door is one inch of pine
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and the silly thing is we built
this to be a bear proof door
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for our house but
this is the latch.
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If you can see this--
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this latch is a this little
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tiny Mickey
Mouse hard grill latch
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and I think a
bear could probably
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lean against this
door and pop this off
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but you know we were
only in our early 20s
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so we really weren't experienced
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at doing this kind of stuff.
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Well, before we had this--
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we just leaned
a piece of plywood
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against the hall, it was okay.
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As soon as we got a
door, we had put a lock on it.
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Yeah. Funny thinking.
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Let's take
everybody, let's take--
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let's go inside and take
a look inside of the house.
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It's quite heavy,
this doorway weighs a ton.
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Let's go inside.
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As you can tell by
looking at this place,
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all this lumber for this
house was cut with a chainsaw.
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In a little while,
I'd like to take you out
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and show you exactly
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how we cut
lumber with a chainsaw.
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One thing that as
you listen to the stories
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of this spiritual journey
in this part of our life,
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I'd like you to
understand that you know,
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what we did was fairly radical.
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This was back in 1981, '82
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when we started
building this place,
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but if the Lord could take
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a couple of young people like us
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with hardly any
money and move out
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into the woods and
do what happened here
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certainly the Lord could get
you out of an inner city area
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with your kids and
put you in an environment
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that would be a
lot better than living
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in some of the inner city
areas that we are in today.
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This fireplace
here, Jerry Warnick,
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my good friend I
was telling you about,
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he lives up by
Glacier National Park
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showed us how to do
stone work and this--
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this fireplace actually
is an airtight wood stove.
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In fact, if you look at
the-- this metal plate on here
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what we would do is we
would load this thing up
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with a lot of big chunks of wood
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and then we would close
this metal plate on here
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and when it got down
to below air outside,
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this whole
fireplace would heat up
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into like a big
riff of wood stove
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and all the rocks
will get nice and warm.
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We had a gravity
feed water system
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that came down out of them,
out of the top of the property
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and fed down to the house
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and we heated all our hot
water with this wood stove.
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This was also
used to heat our house
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but we have some
heating coils here
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that go up into
all hot water tank
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that we found
behind a plumbing place
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and this provided
all the hot water for us.
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Once we finally
got a well in here,
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of course you have
to realize for me--
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quite a number years we
didn't have these luxuries
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but when we finally got
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the gravity
feed water system in,
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we had some
pressurized water here
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and we could
actually take hot showers,
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which was a really nice feature.
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And my wife had quite
an interesting kitchen.
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Do you remember
what your kitchen
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looked like back in the
days we first moved here?
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Oh, let's go look at
it. It'll give you an idea.
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And just it's
important for you to understand
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that when we first moved
here, this was our main house,
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we live in a different house
now as the ministry is growing.
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We've actually turned
his house into an office
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and I'll share with
you later that you know,
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the other parts of the office
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and we have an
administrative room here
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and we have a lot of
stuff stored in here so,
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we have bookstore in here
and things for publishing,
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this is a break
room for employees,
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so things are
considerably different
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now than they were
back in the early '80s
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when we used to live here.
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On the back side
of the fire place
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was my wood cook stove.
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And what I did there is I
heated the water for baths,
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for washing clothes,
and baking bread in it,
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did everything from scratch,
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and so we had our
wood cook stove here
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but over here where you see
these beautiful oak cabinets,
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now we had homemade
cabinets made out of pine
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and one time as Jeff was
building those cabinets for me,
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he had the countertop
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made out of a very
thick cedar board stand.
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He had little this
little tiny was is it a jig saw?
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A saber saw-- Little saber saw.
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--to a generator.
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He was cutting a hole in that,
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of course this was years later
when we finally had a generator
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and he was
cutting a hole in that
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to put a sink in for me
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and he was just
struggling and struggling
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and it wasn't going anywhere
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and now I'm thinking
this isn't going to last.
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And just like I
thought he went out the door
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and as I
anticipated he came walking
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right back in
with his chain saw.
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And he got up on the
counter and ripped his chain saw
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and just threw saw dust all over
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but you know
that's what I was used to,
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I was used to
following him around
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and cleaning that
mess as we-- as we built.
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We have to understand that
all of this lumber that we cut,
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all the-- you know you guys
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that are
contractors that are watching
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this are gonna have
a hard time with this
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but all the
finished work on this house
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was done with a chainsaw.
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I'm talking the miter
cuts for around the windows.
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I'm talking about
the window moldings,
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I'm talking about all the
fine 'delicate stuff' that--
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we didn't have a
handsaw, we only had chainsaws
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and so all the
fine delicate stuff
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that you would
do with a chainsaw,
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I mean, with a handsaw, we
were doing with the chainsaw,
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so all this finished carpentry,
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edges and everything
were either hand planed
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with a hand plane or
they were cut with a chainsaw.
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So, it was only natural for me
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to jump up on the
counter with a chainsaw
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and cut the hole for the sink.
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We had this idea
when we came up here,
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we're going to do
all these great things
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and when the first year went by,
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all of a sudden, we realized
that things were happening
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exactly the way that we
thought that they should.
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We had this idea we're
gonna build a clinic up here,
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we're gonna build houses,
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we're gonna have a health food
store and restaurant in town.
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We were going to do all
these great things for God,
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revelation
seminars and by the time
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the first
summer came to its end,
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my brother and sister-in-law
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decided the
weather here was too cold,
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they didn't like
it and they left.
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And we're up here
and we had a house
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that was just barely built
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and this whole
idea of 'the great work'
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started to change focus
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and we started to
realize what the great work was,
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not going out and doing
some great things for God,
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but it was about
character development.
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Learning to trust
Him, learning Him to be--
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to be faithful in
the little things,
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learning to be
frugal with what resources
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and money that He--
Learning to surrender.
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Learning to surrender,
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learning how to get
along as a husband and wife
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and we found out that was really
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what country living was about,
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it wasn't about doing
some great work for God.
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It was about doing some
great work in our hearts.
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Our hearts. Yeah.
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We would like
to take you outside
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and show you the generator
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that we later bought to
start powering this house
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'cause as the
ministry started growing,
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as a ministry started growing,
that's a whole another story
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that will develop into
this spiritual journey series
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that we're on right now.
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When we finally decided
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that we needed to
get electricity here
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'cause the ministry
was starting to grow,
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we started out first with a
little teeny Honda generator
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and then we ended up moving to--
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this one here and a gentleman
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who is a real kind individual
gave this generator to us.
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This is an old
military generator,
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it's not really, it
doesn't really put out
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all that much wattage
but it was enough to charge
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some graphique
telephone batteries
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and run an inverter system
00:13:20.64\00:13:21.99
so that we could
have washing machine
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and 12 volt power 'cause as
the ministry started growing,
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we started having computers
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and such here but
we were still running
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this ministry off this generator
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and this is like a
1945 old military generator
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with a flathead four cylinder
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and this provided electricity
for us probably for almost,
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I would think
about almost five years
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and then we
finally got power in.
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The whole story
about how the power came
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to the property is
just definitely providential
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and how the Lord lead
and I'll never forget--
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our neighbor that has
property right next to us here
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and wanted to have power
brought into our property.
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And you see, when
we first moved here
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we had this idea we'd like
to bring power to the property.
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We checked- on it and we found
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that it was
going to cost $12,698.
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Well, that was
way out of the budget
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that we could ever
even consider affording
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and so year after
year went by we just knew
00:14:16.75\00:14:18.51
we'll probably not get
power into this place ever
00:14:18.54\00:14:20.61
but the ministry
started growing in
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and I knew the Lord knew
00:14:22.50\00:14:23.96
that we needed
to have electricity
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to do everything we're doing.
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The neighbor said why
don't we check with the--
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this huge corporation
on property right behind us
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and see if we can get power
in and he checked with them,
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they were having a board meeting
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and they called me
up on a Friday morning
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and they said we've decided
00:14:41.32\00:14:42.40
you could put power
in through our property
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but because you're
going through our property
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you have to go underground.
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And I said well, how
much would that cost?
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And they said around $12,000
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and I was thinking oh,
nine years down the road
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and it's still the same
price which we can't afford.
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And I was a little discouraged
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but you know the Lord
has an interesting way
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of having things happen
because that next morning
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which was Sabbath
morning we went to church
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I was feeling a
little bit depressed
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and I was thinking, Lord,
you know why is this happening
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because we really need
to have electricity here
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and what ended up happening was
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after we came home from church.
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We heard a knock at the
door and I opened the door up
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and it was the
gentleman on the--
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almost a mile
section of property
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right behind our
house and he said,
00:15:19.78\00:15:21.68
"Jeff I was just wondering,
00:15:21.71\00:15:23.96
have you ever thought about
getting power in your place"
00:15:23.99\00:15:26.18
And I kind of grinned and said
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"Well, you know,
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I thought about that
actually quite a bit lately
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and I didn't tell
him you know about
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what was
happening just the last week
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and he said you know what let's
go take a look at the property
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and I got thinking should
I be doing this on Sabbath?
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Well, I think the Lord
brought this gentleman to me
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to our family and so I
went out for a walk with him
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and he went talk with
his other family members
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and that
individual gave us permission
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to be able to put power in
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right next to this
corporation's property
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just over thirty feet
cut down to swath the trees
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for free all the
way in from the highway.
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And you know
how much it cost us?
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It cost us $1260--
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$1268 or something
like that was almost exactly
00:16:04.27\00:16:07.14
a tide of what it
was going to cost us,
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you know, nine years
before that to get power in
00:16:09.84\00:16:12.02
and what this other
company wanted to charger us.
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And that was just
again another sign you know,
00:16:14.30\00:16:16.72
of how the Lord
was leading to be able
00:16:16.75\00:16:18.76
to help this
ministry to continue to grow
00:16:18.79\00:16:21.36
and to provide the
needs that we had here
00:16:21.39\00:16:23.24
to really make this ministry
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be the blessing that it
is today around the world.
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One of our greatest
needs that we had up here
00:16:32.45\00:16:34.57
after several years
a running the ministry
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was getting a telephone in
00:16:36.95\00:16:38.07
and before we even
got power into this place.
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You have to consider
this extremely remote area
00:16:41.28\00:16:43.70
and try to get telephone in here
00:16:43.73\00:16:45.08
was going to
cost a lot of money.
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And we were making it a
real serious matter of prayer
00:16:46.93\00:16:50.56
and I had used a one
of the neighbors phones
00:16:50.59\00:16:53.58
and I called and asked
about having an engineer
00:16:53.61\00:16:56.52
from the
telephone company come out
00:16:56.55\00:16:58.38
to our place in just
give us an estimation
00:16:58.41\00:17:00.34
on how much it was going to cost
00:17:00.37\00:17:01.48
to have the
telephone brought in.
00:17:01.51\00:17:03.62
And I remember one morning
we were about our daily business
00:17:03.65\00:17:05.92
at the house
doing home schooling
00:17:05.95\00:17:07.87
and I was studying and
there was a knock on the door
00:17:07.90\00:17:09.84
and there was a gentleman
00:17:09.87\00:17:10.90
there with one of these
little wheels a meter wheel
00:17:10.93\00:17:12.71
that measures distance.
00:17:12.74\00:17:14.63
And he started telling us that,
00:17:14.66\00:17:15.69
well, we can get
telephone in here,
00:17:15.72\00:17:16.91
it's going to cost around $700
I think it was at that time.
00:17:16.94\00:17:20.71
And he looked up on the wall
and he saw a picture of Jesus
00:17:20.74\00:17:24.01
and he looked down at my
desk there was right by the door
00:17:24.04\00:17:26.19
and he saw a
Bible and he look at us
00:17:26.22\00:17:28.22
said are you folks Christians?
00:17:28.25\00:17:29.41
Then we said yeah, and he said
00:17:29.44\00:17:30.70
oh, I'm Christian too
and we visited with him some
00:17:30.73\00:17:33.30
and it was really nice and--
and then he said do you know
00:17:33.33\00:17:36.76
we can get telephone in here
and there would be no problem
00:17:36.79\00:17:38.86
I'm the head
engineer and I looked at him
00:17:38.89\00:17:41.88
and I said I
don't have the money
00:17:41.91\00:17:43.44
to have this system
installed and he said
00:17:43.47\00:17:46.40
"Oh, we can work out
a payment plan for you,
00:17:46.43\00:17:47.83
don't worry about that."
00:17:47.86\00:17:49.07
And so they drag actually a wire
00:17:49.10\00:17:50.89
that was just
laying on top in the snow
00:17:50.92\00:17:52.72
and across the
creeks and everything,
00:17:52.75\00:17:54.29
all the way up
from the county road
00:17:54.32\00:17:56.28
over a mile away, all the
way down into our property here
00:17:56.31\00:17:59.28
and hocked up the telephoning
and we had telephone up here
00:17:59.31\00:18:02.38
and so I started
making monthly payments
00:18:02.41\00:18:04.38
but the only odd
thing was as every time
00:18:04.41\00:18:06.45
I made a monthly payment
00:18:06.48\00:18:07.51
it was just being
credited to our phone bill
00:18:07.54\00:18:09.64
and so our phone bill was like
00:18:09.67\00:18:11.88
increasing rather
than being charged.
00:18:11.91\00:18:14.08
And so I started
calling the company up,
00:18:14.11\00:18:15.84
then I called this
place and I called that place
00:18:15.87\00:18:17.89
and they didn't
know what to do about it,
00:18:17.92\00:18:19.62
they didn't tell me
where to put the money.
00:18:19.65\00:18:21.21
I finally called the engineer up
00:18:21.24\00:18:22.79
that had originally come up here
00:18:22.82\00:18:25.18
and he said to me he said
"Jeff I'll check into this."
00:18:25.21\00:18:27.87
Now this is after
I've done everything
00:18:27.90\00:18:29.24
I possibly could do
to try to make payments
00:18:29.27\00:18:31.76
on the installation
of this telephone line
00:18:31.79\00:18:33.81
he said "Jeff
I'll see what I can do
00:18:33.84\00:18:35.48
until you hear from me
00:18:35.51\00:18:36.67
don't you worry about
anything from this point on."
00:18:36.70\00:18:39.37
And till this day I've
never heard back from him.
00:18:39.40\00:18:42.32
And so the Lord provided
free telephone for us here,
00:18:42.35\00:18:45.25
I'd done everything on my part
00:18:45.28\00:18:46.45
to clear my conscience
to try to be responsible
00:18:46.48\00:18:49.11
and we've never heard back
00:18:49.14\00:18:51.06
from the telephone
company and to this day,
00:18:51.09\00:18:53.81
now we have multi line system
up here for the whole mystery.
00:18:53.84\00:18:57.44
The first thing you
do when you cut lumber
00:19:25.82\00:19:27.20
with a chainsaw mill as
you have this apparatus here.
00:19:27.23\00:19:29.50
Oh, man this thing weighs a ton.
00:19:29.53\00:19:31.49
This is the chainsaw mill,
last time four chainsaw mill
00:19:31.52\00:19:34.11
with husk of chain
saw and this is your log
00:19:34.14\00:19:37.27
and now we're
going to prepare the log
00:19:37.30\00:19:38.77
and we're going
to get ready to cut--
00:19:38.80\00:19:40.92
cut it up into boards.
00:19:40.95\00:19:42.41
Good.
00:20:05.90\00:20:06.95
That's the carriage return.
00:20:38.68\00:20:42.64
Well, this finishes
are here. That is so nice.
00:20:42.67\00:20:46.02
It's cut a little bit rough
because it's a brand new chain.
00:20:46.05\00:20:48.31
Now you put this, just drop it.
00:21:12.17\00:21:15.56
What we've done now
is we've taken this log
00:21:38.86\00:21:41.12
and we've cut
off two sides of it
00:21:41.15\00:21:43.18
and we've got an exactly
a 4-inch wide piece here.
00:21:43.21\00:21:45.83
Now we're going
to do the top cut.
00:21:45.86\00:21:47.04
We're just going to
basically shim off the bark
00:21:47.07\00:21:49.52
as much as possible and
then we get a nice top cut,
00:21:49.55\00:21:52.03
then we are going to
really start making lumber.
00:21:52.06\00:21:55.31
Okay, we want to set it at three
00:21:55.34\00:21:58.94
and you love this
three and a quarter.
00:21:58.97\00:22:01.70
Right now we could cut a beam.
00:22:20.76\00:22:22.69
Out of this we can
make a four by four beam,
00:22:22.72\00:22:25.58
we could make a
one by out of it.
00:22:25.61\00:22:28.22
Whatever dimension
now we set this at,
00:22:28.25\00:22:30.29
we can go ahead and cut
the dip width of the board.
00:22:30.32\00:22:33.26
Basically, that's how you do it
00:22:40.76\00:22:42.06
and you think
that all the lumber
00:22:42.09\00:22:43.76
in that house was
cut with a chainsaw
00:22:43.79\00:22:46.68
just like this
whether it was two by fours
00:22:46.71\00:22:48.44
two by six cedar paneling,
00:22:48.47\00:22:50.41
everything pretty
much was cut this way.
00:22:50.44\00:22:52.95
It's a slow process
but we're on a tight income
00:22:52.98\00:22:55.19
it produces some
pretty nice lumber.
00:22:55.22\00:22:59.60
I just want to say, you know,
00:22:59.63\00:23:00.77
as we went through these early
times of the ministry here.
00:23:00.80\00:23:03.90
We learned some valuable lessons
00:23:03.93\00:23:05.62
and those lessons were learning
00:23:05.65\00:23:07.85
to keep God first in our life,
00:23:07.88\00:23:10.00
learning how to work
together as a husband and wife.
00:23:10.03\00:23:12.49
If it wasn't for the fact that
Christ was in our relationship.
00:23:12.52\00:23:15.79
I think an experience like
what we've gone through here
00:23:15.82\00:23:18.04
probably could have very easily
00:23:18.07\00:23:19.97
caused a young
couple to go to a divorce
00:23:20.00\00:23:22.31
because it's not easy
doing what we did but that,
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it actually drew us
together a lot of ways
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and the other
thing that I learned
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was learn to trust in
God in every circumstance
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that He would provide our need
step by step as we needed that,
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as each door needed to be opened
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we stepped through
it God would provide.
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They taught us how
to be frugal with money
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because we often times
lived on thirty dollars a week
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just to survive up here.
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And it also-- and
this may be kind of odd,
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it helped us to prepare
us for international ministry
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because as we started going
to various different countries
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and in the
third world countries,
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to tell you the truth
we felt rather comfortable
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because we've been
there and we've lived
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without all those
luxuries of everyday life
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that so many
people enjoy in the city.
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You know, one of the lessons
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I learned in
those times of living
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so poorly is that you
don't worry about tomorrow
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and I really like this scripture
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that says to "To cast
your bread upon the waters"
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because after many
days it shall return.
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And I saw that proven so
many times we would have--
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be at the end of
some sort of supplies
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and I'm looking at
it and I'm thinking
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you know what, how am
I going to replace this
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and I'd go ahead and use
whatever supplies it was,
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whether it be raisins or fruit
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or whatever it
was there for the meal
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and throw the last of it in.
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And within a day or two
someone would be showing up
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and they would be
trading with us some--
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for some sort of
services or something like that
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and they would be
trading date pieces
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or they would be trading prunes
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or they would be
trading more raisins and--
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My faith was
just so strengthened
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by those little
experiences in life
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when Jesus provided for us.
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And what that did for us
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is rather than
having this big picture
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of some kind a big ministry
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it started to help us to realize
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that what ministry really
was-- was way a way of life.
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It was who you
are in Christ it was,
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you know, getting
to know your neighbors
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and to share what little you had
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with other people
and that ministry was--
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is more about giving and taking
with people in your community
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and the people you come
in contact with everyday life
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and as we started to
understand that God started,
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the old saying is that we
worked on the plan of addition
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and God start working on
the plan of multiplication.
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I remember we're almost
out of firewood one winter.
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And one friend
came up to my place here
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and he said he
needed firewood really bad
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and I said go ahead and
take half of what I have
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and I knew that we were
going to run out anyhow.
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And soon as I did
that within two days
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the Lord opened
up a place for us
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where we had
unlimited supply of firewood.
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We filled our
woodshed for two years
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and then we ended
up having enough wood
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to give to couple of other
poor families in the community
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and different people
that needed some firewood
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like at the one of
the church schools here
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in town was burning
firewood back in those days
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and we gave firewood to them
00:26:22.34\00:26:23.50
and so by us being
willing to sacrifice
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what little we
had and sharing it
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with somebody else to help them.
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God ended up
pouring more blessings on us
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and you know,
that's the Divine Principle
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of how God works
with us as Christians.
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As we've been talking
about some of experiences
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that we've gone
through the years.
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It take me back to a quote
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that was always
encouraging to us,
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and it goes kind of like this.
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"It would be well for you
to lay by your perplexing cares
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and find a
retreat in the country,
00:26:51.44\00:26:53.54
where there's not
so strong an influence
00:26:53.57\00:26:55.69
to corrupt the
morals of the young.
00:26:55.72\00:26:58.07
True, you would not be
entirely free from annoyances
00:26:58.10\00:27:01.30
and perplexing
care is in the country,
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but you would
there avoid many evils
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and close the door
against the flood of temptation
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which threaten to overpower
the minds for your children."
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And we just felt
that being out here
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in the country was a
safe haven for our children.
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It was worth the sacrifice
00:27:20.25\00:27:22.28
and I would encourage
any of you to consider
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if you are in
the inner city area
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that this is
the time to consider
00:27:27.38\00:27:29.24
moving into more rural area.
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We are all out of time right now
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in the spiritual
journey is going to continue
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and I know that you're
going to gain many blessings
00:27:34.82\00:27:36.46
with the stories
that are yet to come.
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So until next
time may God bless you
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and may God bless you
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as you continue
your spiritual journey.
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