Welcome to the Liberty Insider. 00:00:28.39\00:00:30.26 This is the program that's designed 00:00:30.29\00:00:32.13 to bring you interesting and up-to-date 00:00:32.16\00:00:35.10 and thought-provoking news on religious liberty, 00:00:35.13\00:00:38.47 mostly from the United States 00:00:38.50\00:00:40.04 but from around the world. 00:00:40.07\00:00:41.77 ,My name is Lincoln Steed host of this program 00:00:41.80\00:00:45.81 and for 22 years editor of Liberty magazine. 00:00:45.84\00:00:49.18 And I want to share 00:00:49.21\00:00:52.78 some rather introspective thoughts, 00:00:52.81\00:00:55.22 on this program 00:00:55.25\00:00:56.58 because I'm in an introspective moment 00:00:56.62\00:01:01.82 because after all these years, 00:01:01.86\00:01:03.83 I think it's time to put a pause to this program. 00:01:03.86\00:01:07.93 If for no other reason 00:01:07.96\00:01:09.66 that I've put a pause to editing Liberty magazine, 00:01:09.70\00:01:12.10 and whether I go out to pastor it remains to be seen, 00:01:12.13\00:01:16.20 but maybe I've said enough on this program 00:01:16.24\00:01:18.74 and others can carry it on. 00:01:18.77\00:01:22.38 I'd like to share an editorial, 00:01:22.41\00:01:23.98 the last editorial that I wrote for Liberty magazine. 00:01:24.01\00:01:27.25 It was actually in the July/August 21 issue, 00:01:27.28\00:01:31.75 the last issue that I fully assembled, 00:01:31.79\00:01:34.36 and I called it A Small Gap. 00:01:34.39\00:01:37.86 And I would want to talk beyond it, 00:01:37.89\00:01:39.79 but it summarizes sort of 00:01:39.83\00:01:41.20 where I find myself at the moment. 00:01:41.23\00:01:43.67 This is what I wrote. 00:01:43.70\00:01:45.30 A little more than 22 years ago I sat down in a new office, 00:01:45.33\00:01:50.61 at a new desk, 00:01:50.64\00:01:52.11 and pondered what to do next. 00:01:52.14\00:01:54.71 On the desktop were just a few items 00:01:54.74\00:01:56.68 that tied me to this new reality. 00:01:56.71\00:01:59.45 There was a cake-top decoration 00:01:59.48\00:02:02.35 in the style of the Statue of Liberty, 00:02:02.38\00:02:04.62 left over from the farewell with the editorial staff 00:02:04.65\00:02:07.66 at the Review and Herald Publishing Association. 00:02:07.69\00:02:10.83 In a card that came with it, 00:02:10.86\00:02:13.03 an editor friend had noted my possible risk 00:02:13.06\00:02:17.07 in defending religious liberty in a volatile world: 00:02:17.10\00:02:20.34 the thought had perplexed me at the time, 00:02:20.37\00:02:23.34 and, in fact, didn't make much sense till years later, 00:02:23.37\00:02:26.91 walking alone through 00:02:26.94\00:02:28.28 the religious-riot-ravaged streets 00:02:28.31\00:02:30.85 of Ambon City, Indonesia, 00:02:30.88\00:02:32.81 it hit me that there was mortal danger. 00:02:32.85\00:02:37.09 In an incongruously small box on that desk 00:02:37.12\00:02:42.19 was also a little pile of articles, 00:02:42.22\00:02:45.53 some of them were yellowed and marked 00:02:45.56\00:02:47.30 as accepted decades earlier: 00:02:47.33\00:02:49.70 it was my slush file, 00:02:49.73\00:02:52.17 otherwise known as the makings of that first issue 00:02:52.20\00:02:55.27 as editor of Liberty magazine. 00:02:55.30\00:02:57.54 And so it began: 00:02:57.57\00:02:59.24 an editorial journey I had never really anticipated. 00:02:59.27\00:03:03.55 My predecessor, Clifford Goldstein, 00:03:03.58\00:03:05.28 younger than me, 00:03:05.31\00:03:06.72 was about seven years in the job 00:03:06.75\00:03:08.65 before leaving precipitously to take up editorship 00:03:08.68\00:03:12.49 of the Bible study lessons 00:03:12.52\00:03:13.99 for the Seventh-day Adventist world church. 00:03:14.02\00:03:16.46 Ironically, I had been called back from Australia 00:03:16.49\00:03:19.89 about 15 years earlier to coordinate 00:03:19.93\00:03:22.76 editorial and production on those same lessons! 00:03:22.80\00:03:26.53 But Liberty magazine was not on my mind then, 00:03:26.57\00:03:30.51 even if issues of religious freedom were. 00:03:30.54\00:03:35.11 As a young man I had been privileged to travel at a time 00:03:35.14\00:03:38.85 when it was still a bit of an adventure. 00:03:38.88\00:03:41.72 I still remember the escape out of Kabul, Afghanistan. 00:03:41.75\00:03:47.19 We had been stoned on the highways out of the city 00:03:47.22\00:03:50.56 by Muslim youth angry at Christian Westerners, 00:03:50.59\00:03:54.13 and as our plane struggled up a narrow valley 00:03:54.16\00:03:57.17 between towering peaks and crippling turbulence, 00:03:57.20\00:04:00.74 I anxiously monitored 00:04:00.77\00:04:02.77 the huge pile of luggage strapped to the floor 00:04:02.80\00:04:06.14 where the first 20 rows of seats 00:04:06.17\00:04:07.98 usually were in a Boeing 727. 00:04:08.01\00:04:11.25 We made it! 00:04:11.28\00:04:12.61 And in Pakistan I encountered 00:04:12.65\00:04:14.32 the pilot washing his hands in the garden of the hotel 00:04:14.35\00:04:17.89 and I quizzed him about the risks on that flight: 00:04:17.92\00:04:21.02 he spoke cryptically about the wings falling off 00:04:21.06\00:04:24.63 if he'd made a wrong move! 00:04:24.66\00:04:27.23 In Iran things seemed peaceful enough. 00:04:27.26\00:04:30.70 I still remember walking down a Parisian-style boulevard 00:04:30.73\00:04:34.90 and peering through the wrought-iron gates 00:04:34.94\00:04:37.61 of the US embassy, 00:04:37.64\00:04:39.67 later to be the scene of a drawn-out hostage drama. 00:04:39.71\00:04:43.24 But what I remember most clearly 00:04:43.28\00:04:45.45 from the visit to Iran 00:04:45.48\00:04:47.52 was driving hours out of Tehran to meet 00:04:47.55\00:04:50.39 with Seventh-day Adventist Christians 00:04:50.42\00:04:52.19 at a camp meeting convocation. 00:04:52.22\00:04:55.12 Political freedom is relative, 00:04:55.16\00:04:58.36 and they were using what freedoms they had. 00:04:58.39\00:05:01.90 But it was in Communist Bulgaria 00:05:01.93\00:05:04.37 that the importance of religious freedom 00:05:04.40\00:05:06.17 most took root in my psyche. 00:05:06.20\00:05:09.24 At the time Bulgaria was one of the Reddest 00:05:09.27\00:05:12.07 of the Communist states 00:05:12.11\00:05:13.54 and usual host for Warsaw Pact military war games. 00:05:13.58\00:05:18.25 Christians were not so much persecuted there in the active, 00:05:18.28\00:05:22.32 violent ways many in the West imagined, 00:05:22.35\00:05:25.29 but were marginalized and restricted. 00:05:25.32\00:05:28.92 Communist Party membership and advancement in any line 00:05:28.96\00:05:31.96 of employment was denied people of faith. 00:05:31.99\00:05:34.66 Worship was allowed only in proscribed venues 00:05:34.70\00:05:38.53 and for limited times. 00:05:38.57\00:05:40.47 The older faithful were seen 00:05:40.50\00:05:42.37 as irredeemably out of step with socialism, 00:05:42.40\00:05:46.47 but the young were to be kept away 00:05:46.51\00:05:49.24 from this contagion at all costs. 00:05:49.28\00:05:53.38 I was with my family and my father 00:05:53.42\00:05:55.55 was not allowed to preach 00:05:55.58\00:05:56.92 in that Adventist Church in Sofia, the capital, 00:05:56.95\00:06:00.19 but his work with the government 00:06:00.22\00:06:01.66 on anti-drug education meant 00:06:01.69\00:06:03.16 that he was a guest of the authorities 00:06:03.19\00:06:05.39 and so they allowed him to bring greetings 00:06:05.43\00:06:08.20 to the somber congregations... 00:06:08.23\00:06:10.40 congregants. 00:06:10.43\00:06:11.77 All I noted clutching, contraband, handwritten 00:06:11.80\00:06:15.47 or typewriter carbon copied Bible study lessons. 00:06:15.50\00:06:20.24 Those greetings, went on for more than an hour, 00:06:20.28\00:06:23.55 with extended Bible texts and allusions. 00:06:23.58\00:06:26.65 It was rather sermon-like I thought. 00:06:26.68\00:06:30.02 After it was over, we met in the side room 00:06:30.05\00:06:33.52 with the translator and his sad eyed daughter. 00:06:33.56\00:06:36.86 She was not much younger than me at that time 00:06:36.89\00:06:39.79 so she had my attention. 00:06:39.83\00:06:42.13 She's a good daughter, her father, rather said, 00:06:42.16\00:06:45.63 "She comes to church every week, 00:06:45.67\00:06:47.67 rather than school as the government requires 00:06:47.70\00:06:50.51 but pray for us," 00:06:50.54\00:06:51.87 he asked with tears in his eyes, 00:06:51.91\00:06:53.88 "They are going to take her away from us 00:06:53.91\00:06:56.75 because she would rather come to church than go to school." 00:06:56.78\00:07:01.32 In that instant, I understood what was at stake 00:07:01.35\00:07:04.89 with conscience and religious liberty. 00:07:04.92\00:07:07.96 Later on that same trip, almost a lifetime back now, 00:07:07.99\00:07:12.46 we crossed much of India by train. 00:07:12.49\00:07:15.93 I will never forget 00:07:15.96\00:07:17.30 looking at on the fields one morning, 00:07:17.33\00:07:19.30 as the train chugged across the countryside 00:07:19.33\00:07:22.20 and seeing humans almost shoulder to shoulder, 00:07:22.24\00:07:26.34 in morning ablutions, 00:07:26.37\00:07:28.64 dotting the plain from trackside to far horizon. 00:07:28.68\00:07:32.95 It was disorienting to my sense of humanity. 00:07:32.98\00:07:37.29 Jesus Christ was said to have looked on the crowds 00:07:37.32\00:07:40.22 and had pity on them. 00:07:40.26\00:07:42.02 Far easier to depersonalized one's concern 00:07:42.06\00:07:45.76 and transmigrate religious liberty 00:07:45.79\00:07:48.20 to legislative action, 00:07:48.23\00:07:50.30 court cases, 00:07:50.33\00:07:53.30 and efforts to protect religious congregations 00:07:53.34\00:07:56.87 and organizations. 00:07:56.91\00:07:58.87 I know we have to fight our own sensibilities 00:07:58.91\00:08:02.78 in standing up for the conscience rights 00:08:02.81\00:08:05.08 of all humanity. 00:08:05.11\00:08:06.68 How easy it is in matters of religious liberty 00:08:06.72\00:08:09.92 to slip into thinking 00:08:09.95\00:08:11.29 that does not apply to Untermensch. 00:08:11.32\00:08:15.79 That's the German word for the under men. 00:08:15.82\00:08:17.73 Untermensch, 00:08:17.76\00:08:19.09 only to we who understand all of its complexities, 00:08:19.13\00:08:23.37 as though we ever could. 00:08:23.40\00:08:26.33 Back in my Australian homeland and with my foreign born wife, 00:08:26.37\00:08:29.37 Rosa Delia, 00:08:29.40\00:08:30.74 whom I had met while living and studying 00:08:30.77\00:08:32.31 in the United States. 00:08:32.34\00:08:33.78 Those visions and insights seemed dreamlike. 00:08:33.81\00:08:37.95 After all, in a nearly empty lucky country, 00:08:37.98\00:08:42.18 a two-hour drive into the country might reveal 00:08:42.22\00:08:44.92 only dusty-road-edge -to-distant-ridge congregants 00:08:44.95\00:08:49.22 of kangaroos and wombats: 00:08:49.26\00:08:51.89 nothing but existential emptiness 00:08:51.93\00:08:54.20 and easy forgetfulness. 00:08:54.23\00:08:56.93 Then in the early hours of the morning: 00:08:56.97\00:08:59.43 a call to return to the United States 00:08:59.47\00:09:01.84 for editing responsibilities. 00:09:01.87\00:09:06.31 "Don't go," cautioned my wife, 00:09:06.34\00:09:08.48 echoing the view of many that the United States 00:09:08.51\00:09:11.15 is the eye of a hurricane best avoided. 00:09:11.18\00:09:14.58 I was conflicted, to be sure. 00:09:14.62\00:09:17.32 But this is so unexpected, 00:09:17.35\00:09:18.99 and the signs of God's leading so clear. 00:09:19.02\00:09:21.79 No time here to enlarge 00:09:21.82\00:09:23.56 on that amazing part of the story, 00:09:23.59\00:09:25.03 that I must go, I said. 00:09:25.06\00:09:27.03 "It may be 00:09:27.06\00:09:28.80 that I am just a small connection 00:09:28.83\00:09:31.37 in a big plan: 00:09:31.40\00:09:33.17 a single contact I make may complete the chain." 00:09:33.20\00:09:38.57 And so we returned. 00:09:38.61\00:09:40.28 And a few years later 00:09:40.31\00:09:41.64 I sat at the Liberty editorial desk! 00:09:41.68\00:09:44.45 For most of my formative years 00:09:44.48\00:09:46.88 Roland Hegstad was the editor of Liberty magazine, 00:09:46.92\00:09:49.98 34 years in total for him. 00:09:50.02\00:09:52.45 So for me he will always be Mr. Liberty. 00:09:52.49\00:09:55.96 But, of course, Liberty magazine, 00:09:55.99\00:09:58.69 and indeed I can divert and say 00:09:58.73\00:10:00.63 this program belongs to none of us, 00:10:00.66\00:10:03.33 editor or reader or viewer. 00:10:03.37\00:10:06.67 Religious liberty is as big as humanity 00:10:06.70\00:10:10.61 and everyman's stirrings of conscience. 00:10:10.64\00:10:13.34 It is surely the idA(C)e fixe 00:10:13.38\00:10:16.85 at the center of a gospel proclamation. 00:10:16.88\00:10:20.28 For years I have tried to remind Christian audiences 00:10:20.32\00:10:23.39 that fallen humanity has been released 00:10:23.42\00:10:27.09 from millennia of captivity to sin 00:10:27.12\00:10:29.52 by the actions of a Redeemer. 00:10:29.56\00:10:31.53 We are free, we have freedom, no one can take that from us. 00:10:31.56\00:10:37.30 As Revelation 3:8 says, 00:10:37.33\00:10:39.07 "I have set before you an open door, 00:10:39.10\00:10:42.57 and no one can shut it." 00:10:42.60\00:10:44.91 That's how the Bible puts it. 00:10:44.94\00:10:47.28 And during the time with Liberty, 00:10:47.31\00:10:49.18 I have seen the religious world warp 00:10:49.21\00:10:51.91 and narrow religious liberty, religious freedom 00:10:51.95\00:10:56.69 into an entitlement to restrict others. 00:10:56.72\00:11:00.39 And during that time I have seen a narrowing 00:11:00.42\00:11:02.99 of even the secular concept of liberty, 00:11:03.02\00:11:06.56 concept of freedom. 00:11:06.59\00:11:08.33 After the towers went down in 2001, 00:11:08.36\00:11:12.20 an article in Le Monde magazine in France 00:11:12.23\00:11:15.10 commented on the realism of the moment. 00:11:15.14\00:11:18.54 But more than real, it said: symbolic! 00:11:18.57\00:11:22.24 As I remember, the author wrote that 00:11:22.28\00:11:25.28 "We have reached the point 00:11:25.31\00:11:27.75 where the very idea of freedom, 00:11:27.78\00:11:30.29 itself relatively recent and new, 00:11:30.32\00:11:33.39 is in the process of being replaced by its polar opposite, 00:11:33.42\00:11:38.16 that of a terror of security." 00:11:38.19\00:11:42.63 And so, enhanced interrogations, 00:11:42.66\00:11:45.93 unitary visions of executive power, 00:11:45.97\00:11:48.44 impromptu prayer sessions by insurgents 00:11:48.47\00:11:51.61 in the US House chamber, 00:11:51.64\00:11:53.44 a choice of isolation over worship 00:11:53.48\00:11:56.24 during a pandemic. 00:11:56.28\00:11:57.78 What next? 00:11:57.81\00:11:59.15 God only knows. 00:11:59.18\00:12:00.85 Well, try reading the Book of Revelation. 00:12:00.88\00:12:03.89 So where is my place within all of this? 00:12:03.92\00:12:07.76 This in the editorial is to be my last issue 00:12:07.79\00:12:11.63 as editor before retiring. 00:12:11.66\00:12:13.56 I dare not apply to myself 00:12:13.60\00:12:15.26 General MacArthur's self-pitying epilogue, 00:12:15.30\00:12:17.93 when he was fired by the way. 00:12:17.97\00:12:20.17 This is off text by the president 00:12:20.20\00:12:24.67 for wanting to drop 50 atomic bombs 00:12:24.71\00:12:27.58 on China. 00:12:27.61\00:12:28.94 Thank God, the president fired them. 00:12:28.98\00:12:31.18 But this is what MacArthur said in his own epilogue, he says, 00:12:31.21\00:12:35.18 "Old soldiers never die." 00:12:35.22\00:12:37.12 In fact he said this before Congress as I remember. 00:12:37.15\00:12:39.79 "Old soldiers never die, they just fade away," he said. 00:12:39.82\00:12:43.69 Well, of course we fade away, like the grass, 00:12:43.73\00:12:47.03 according to the Bible, but our actions can endure. 00:12:47.06\00:12:52.00 Instead, for my last thought, 00:12:52.03\00:12:54.67 I'd like to invoke a Russian folk song 00:12:54.70\00:12:57.77 of wartime loss. 00:12:57.81\00:12:59.47 It's worth remembering that Russia lost... 00:12:59.51\00:13:02.18 The figure varies, but at least 20 00:13:02.21\00:13:04.45 and as many as 60 million people 00:13:04.48\00:13:06.15 in World War II, massive loss. 00:13:06.18\00:13:08.38 It was actually the cause of what we used to laugh 00:13:08.42\00:13:11.49 at when I was a kid that make fun of Russia 00:13:11.52\00:13:13.36 with all the women's sweeping the streets. 00:13:13.39\00:13:16.49 Nothing to do with communism, there were just not enough men. 00:13:16.52\00:13:20.93 I always find a deep sadness and melancholy in Russian song 00:13:20.96\00:13:24.27 and literature. 00:13:24.30\00:13:25.67 As a young man of the Vietnam War era, 00:13:25.70\00:13:29.30 I was deeply affected by reading 00:13:29.34\00:13:31.21 Leo Tolstoy's War and Peace. 00:13:31.24\00:13:34.64 The song I want to refer to is called Cranes. 00:13:34.68\00:13:39.08 I loved it best sung by the late 00:13:39.11\00:13:40.92 Russian baritone Dmitri Hvorostovsky. 00:13:40.95\00:13:43.99 And I would recommend it to people 00:13:44.02\00:13:46.86 but the lines that I'd like to lead to, 00:13:46.89\00:13:50.66 maybe I should explain it on this program, 00:13:50.69\00:13:52.79 which I did in my editorial. 00:13:52.83\00:13:55.36 The writer of the song was drawing a parallel, 00:13:55.40\00:13:57.87 between the absent fellows 00:13:57.90\00:14:00.94 who had fought in that great war 00:14:00.97\00:14:02.34 and died and that was, 00:14:02.37\00:14:03.71 you know, just a loss all across the land, 00:14:03.74\00:14:05.31 but they defended their freedom. 00:14:05.34\00:14:08.04 And they were drawing a parallel 00:14:08.08\00:14:09.41 between that real situation and in the evening mist, 00:14:09.44\00:14:13.52 a flotilla, for one of the better word, of cranes. 00:14:13.55\00:14:17.52 There's tall gangly birds, when they fly out, 00:14:17.55\00:14:20.06 they stretch out straight and the wings slowly beating, 00:14:20.09\00:14:23.46 flying goes like through the mist in formation. 00:14:23.49\00:14:27.76 And the lines of that song I say that admit me now are: 00:14:27.80\00:14:32.60 flying in the fog at the end of the day. 00:14:32.63\00:14:36.44 And in those ranks there is a small gap, 00:14:36.47\00:14:39.81 maybe that is the place for me. 00:14:39.84\00:14:45.05 Again, the figure that I picked up from my wife 00:14:45.08\00:14:48.72 and I believe in it truly. 00:14:48.75\00:14:50.49 None of us can know if we're a Moses, 00:14:50.52\00:14:53.62 Daniel or a small bit player. 00:14:53.66\00:14:56.99 I had not even mentioned by name in the Bible, 00:14:57.03\00:14:59.46 but I'm quite certain as there's a God. 00:14:59.49\00:15:03.20 Of course, the Bible says, 00:15:03.23\00:15:04.83 "He that comes to God must first believe that He is..." 00:15:04.87\00:15:09.07 But I'll presume that we believe 00:15:09.10\00:15:10.67 that God exists if there's a God. 00:15:10.71\00:15:13.14 If He has any interest in human affairs, 00:15:13.17\00:15:15.24 which He stated He does, we'll all play a part. 00:15:15.28\00:15:19.18 And we can't know in this life, and these times, 00:15:19.21\00:15:24.29 and in this way, we can't know what part we play. 00:15:24.32\00:15:26.86 But we have to believe that we're part of a whole, 00:15:26.89\00:15:30.09 that we're part of a great movement 00:15:30.13\00:15:31.59 that we're part of a great charter 00:15:31.63\00:15:34.10 and for Seventh-day Adventist, this is three angels' messages. 00:15:34.13\00:15:38.73 Those viewers that have seen an Adventist Church 00:15:38.77\00:15:41.00 might have noticed that in the past, 00:15:41.04\00:15:44.44 at least three little figures, three angels, 00:15:44.47\00:15:47.11 but those are just figures for you and I 00:15:47.14\00:15:50.65 and anyone that wants to join with us 00:15:50.68\00:15:52.28 proclaiming the message for this time. 00:15:52.31\00:15:55.38 But if one or two people keep silent, 00:15:55.42\00:15:57.89 the voice is softer for that 00:15:57.92\00:16:00.32 and it's louder and louder the more people get involved. 00:16:00.36\00:16:03.29 And I feel privileged to have been a part of Liberty magazine 00:16:03.32\00:16:06.73 and this program for quite a few years. 00:16:06.76\00:16:09.86 Not 34 as my predecessor, 00:16:09.90\00:16:12.13 you can't live up to the past in every case. 00:16:12.17\00:16:14.70 And even if I were 35 years, 00:16:14.74\00:16:16.60 there might be someone if time goes on 00:16:16.64\00:16:18.61 who would be 30, 40 years. 00:16:18.64\00:16:20.78 We don't measure it that way, 00:16:20.81\00:16:22.71 but certainly, longer than I probably was due. 00:16:22.74\00:16:27.45 I've been able to speak for religious liberty, 00:16:27.48\00:16:29.78 and I know that the need is greater than ever 00:16:29.82\00:16:32.52 before for somebody. 00:16:32.55\00:16:33.96 The next link in the chain, 00:16:33.99\00:16:35.32 the next crane flying in the mist 00:16:35.36\00:16:38.03 because we are at the end of the day 00:16:38.06\00:16:39.79 to make their voice heard, 00:16:39.83\00:16:42.26 to play their small part. 00:16:42.30\00:16:44.30 Let's take a short break and I'll be back 00:16:44.33\00:16:46.07 to finish this program. 00:16:46.10\00:16:47.44