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00:06 Welcome back to the Liberty Insider.
00:08 Before the break,
00:10 I was trying to set the scene from John,
00:15 the Gospel of John, where a ruler in Israel,
00:18 Nicodemus came by night that says to talk with Jesus.
00:24 Of course, by then Jesus
00:27 was making a big fuss in the land.
00:30 People were following Him, crowds of people were told
00:33 not just His 12 disciples, not just the women,
00:37 if you read the gospels, clearly,
00:38 there are a large number of women
00:40 that traveled with them often
00:42 as well as bringing them food and sustenance.
00:46 Like one of the followers, women followers of Jesus
00:49 was the wife of Herod's steward.
00:53 If you read these books carefully,
00:54 you find an inter relationship that's quite amazing.
00:58 When Jesus, during his passion was taken before Herod,
01:03 remember Herod had heard about him,
01:04 it says, and so he asked Him to do a miracle.
01:07 Well, he certainly would have heard about
01:09 Jesus through his steward,
01:11 his top official in the household.
01:14 And then there was not just the 70 that Jesus sent out
01:18 throughout the towns
01:19 and villages of that whole area.
01:21 There was, Jesus was a phenomenon,
01:24 it's quite obvious.
01:26 And here this ruler in Israel came singly,
01:29 it seems, at night to talk to Jesus.
01:33 And earlier I said, I let him off the hook a bit,
01:35 I don't think he was afraid to see Jesus.
01:39 If he had any fear,
01:40 it might have been that his fellow,
01:43 fellows on the ruling council might have sneered at him.
01:47 But he just came in a natural time
01:49 after the business of the day,
01:51 when people typically to this day
01:53 in that part of the world, sit around and talk and,
01:57 you know, have refreshments
02:00 and enjoy the cool which they couldn't
02:01 during the non-air conditioned environment before.
02:05 And so Nicodemus came and asked, and Jesus said,
02:08 you must be born again.
02:11 And it's troubled me greatly that in the United States
02:14 where there's a lot of talk of religion,
02:15 which is a sign of a great heritage,
02:19 because religious liberty is part of the history
02:22 and indeed even the mythology
02:24 of the founding of the United States.
02:26 A country that is secular,
02:29 the government is calculatedly secular,
02:32 but the history of the United States
02:34 before the country was even formed
02:36 before the War of Independence,
02:40 there were indeed a number of Puritan settlements
02:44 that were done for an overtly religious reason.
02:48 Even in that era, there were a number of people
02:51 escaping persecution
02:53 from the wars of religion in Europe.
02:55 And after the United States was founded even,
02:57 a number of refugee groups
03:00 came from some overtly religious reasons.
03:03 I live in Maryland.
03:05 And I'm right near the Pennsylvania border.
03:08 And I can tell you, there's a lot of Amish
03:11 and Mennonite people up in that area.
03:14 And, of course, the Anabaptists and they fled persecution.
03:17 So that part of the narrative is true,
03:20 even though we're a secular government.
03:23 But that said, the religious nature
03:26 of the United States has changed radically.
03:29 And the efforts now to gain
03:33 what is seen as religious liberty
03:35 often are a privilege state
03:40 for a certain particular religious viewpoint,
03:43 not necessarily a broad waterfront of rights
03:46 for people of faith to exist in the secular community.
03:51 And what I think is missing, I've analyzed this
03:54 and looked at it many
03:56 which ways and I've come to believe that
03:59 what is usually missing is the spirituality
04:02 that gives charity and, you know,
04:08 deep religious tint to religious activities,
04:12 without that it's just an organization.
04:14 It's just a pressure group.
04:16 It's just a special interest group.
04:19 And I've listened to the religious right.
04:22 And they don't talk much about the new birth,
04:26 a total sea change in thinking that
04:28 brings a spiritual "otherworldliness."
04:32 It's not that you're removed from this world,
04:34 but you're, as the Bible says your things
04:36 are set up, your mind is set upon
04:38 the things that are above.
04:40 When that is the case,
04:43 I believe religious liberty
04:44 is advanced a little differently
04:46 than the often overtly political way that
04:49 we're seeing today and not talk about that.
04:54 Instead, what is characterized
04:56 a lot of the religious expression
04:58 in the political and public sense
05:01 has been talked about Dominionism.
05:04 The power, the control that was given to God's faithful,
05:10 they say, starting with the Garden of Eden
05:14 when dominion over the creatures
05:17 was given to Adam and Eve.
05:19 I read into that form of Dominion really custody,
05:23 and the obligation to care for things,
05:26 but Dominionism as it's written in our era,
05:30 is really people of a Christian or religious profession,
05:33 having the right to mind to the heart's content,
05:37 to deny environmental change,
05:40 and say that, you know,
05:42 it's not happening first of all,
05:43 but you know, we'll do whatever we want to.
05:47 I really don't see Dominionism able to be
05:51 expressed anywhere near the way it is now,
05:53 if the emphasis was on spirituality
05:56 and the new birth,
05:57 and I believe that's what's missing.
06:01 Over the recent years,
06:03 I've often reached back into history
06:05 for some of my examples.
06:07 And as a six or seven year old,
06:11 I was very enamored
06:12 with John Bunyan's Pilgrim's Progress.
06:15 And I think even on this program,
06:17 I've told about attending the summer 10th session
06:20 as a child where
06:22 they were serializing that story.
06:25 Exciting, but I've been taken
06:27 recently to not just read Pilgrim's Progress,
06:30 but to go and read John Bunyan's own testimony.
06:33 And he tells there, how he was a foul mouthed.
06:37 He was a Christian,
06:38 in a general sense enough to be afraid of the judgment.
06:42 But he fought in the Civil War on the parliamentary side,
06:45 but alongside the Puritans.
06:49 But he had no real religion at that point.
06:51 He was foul mouthed, gambler, cheater, and all the rest.
06:56 But slowly he saw the attraction in people
06:59 that knew God that had a heavenly sensibility.
07:02 And he said, he, even though
07:04 he thought he knew the Bible,
07:06 he didn't understand its root emphasis.
07:12 He didn't understand the deeper spiritual meaning
07:14 until he met some poor, simple Christian women,
07:19 talking about the grace of God
07:21 and what He had done in their lives.
07:23 And then John Bunyan said, by this, he says,
07:26 my mind was so fixed on spiritual things
07:30 that it was like a horse leech at the vein,
07:34 you know, a big horse leech
07:37 sucking the blood out of the vein.
07:39 And he says, and crying more, more, more.
07:44 You know, that's what the Bible is calling us all toward,
07:47 a spiritual hunger that can be only fulfilled
07:52 when you have the sensibility that appreciates it.
07:55 Without that religion is a pernicious force.
07:59 And this is the greatest irony of our age,
08:02 and age, very much like
08:04 what the Old Testament talks about
08:06 in the time of the judges,
08:08 when the Word of God was rare in those days,
08:12 as it says, the prophets were not obvious.
08:15 The theocracy is long since gone.
08:18 And it says every man did what was right in his own eyes.
08:23 When you have the new birth,
08:24 you don't do what's right in your own eyes.
08:27 You do what is natural, to someone that's hungering
08:32 and searching after righteousness,
08:34 to use the Bible term.
08:37 That's what's needed in the US today.
08:39 And as we head into great stresses,
08:43 COVID just one of them,
08:45 economic collapse or an economic...
08:48 Collapse is a strong word, but an economic wakeup times
08:52 certain to come in the very near future,
08:55 probably more extreme than 2008.
08:59 As we head into a continued round of natural disasters,
09:05 that seemed to be just increasing in severity
09:08 and frequency,
09:09 and they're draining the treasury,
09:11 something extraordinary will have to be done
09:15 to keep our society together.
09:17 And something extraordinary needs to be done
09:20 to defend religious and other civil liberties in a time
09:24 when it would seem that all these must be
09:25 thrown out for survival sake.
09:31 In this era, we are lost on religious liberty
09:35 unless we see it in the context
09:39 of the changed heart and mind
09:45 that comes from a spiritual, new love experience.
09:50 Else it's just a mechanical thing that
09:53 the courts can look at and,
09:55 you know, nod toward and pass it off.
09:58 It also could easily be
09:59 what often happens in the workplace,
10:00 someone wants the Sabbath accommodation.
10:03 And under the present system, it's just as likely,
10:07 since the employer has the whip hand on this,
10:09 yes, I'll give you this weekend off,
10:12 but I can't give you next weekend.
10:13 That's not religious accommodation.
10:16 And if your heart is overflowing
10:18 with love for God,
10:19 you don't serve Him by halves,
10:21 you serve Him with your whole heart and your mind.
10:26 And the trick is how to do that
10:28 in an increasingly secular society,
10:31 a society that is forgetting its norms,
10:34 and the society just like Nicodemus,
10:36 that needs to be reminded that you must be born again.
10:45 Western history and Christianity
10:47 took quite a turn,
10:50 when would be emperor Constantine said that
10:54 he saw a vision in the sky of a cross,
10:57 and a voice that said, by the sign you will conquer.
11:00 You know, that's the stuff of legend.
11:02 But in the record of history,
11:04 it led Christianity in quite a dark alley,
11:08 compulsion, state religion and so on.
11:11 But what was missing from that, in my view, was any evidence
11:15 that Constantine had a heart change.
11:18 What we need today and what's always needed.
11:22 As one writer that I read, speaking about Christ,
11:25 the Christ we forget, he said,
11:26 we need once more that living Christ,
11:29 not a crucifix, not as an image,
11:31 but as a living dynamic presence in our heart.
11:35 With that present,
11:36 any discussion of religious liberty
11:38 takes its rightful place in the rights
11:41 and privileges of the modern era.
11:44 Without it, it's dead.
11:46 For Liberty Insider, this is Lincoln Steed.


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