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Liberty Insider

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Program Code: LI210506B


00:06 Welcome back to the Liberty Insider.
00:08 Before the break,
00:09 I was sharing parts of Areopagitica,
00:13 John Milton's mid 1600 defense of freedom of speech
00:18 and freedom of printing and freedom of ideas.
00:21 Which I think is if anything,
00:23 the bedrock of Western democratic,
00:26 social and political life.
00:29 And this is something else
00:30 he wrote as part of that argument,
00:31 he says, "Suppose we could expel sin
00:35 by this means," in other words, censorship,
00:37 "suppose we could,
00:39 look how much we thus expel of sin,
00:42 how much we expel a virtue for the matter of them,
00:45 both is the same.
00:46 Remove that and you remove them both alike.
00:51 This justifies the high providence of God,
00:54 who, though he command us
00:56 temperance, justice, continence,
00:59 yet pours out before us,
01:01 even to a profuseness, all desirable things,
01:05 and gives us minds that can wander beyond
01:08 all limit and satiety.
01:12 Why should we then affect a rigor contrary
01:16 to the manner of God and of nature,
01:21 by abridging or scanting those means,
01:24 which books freely permitted are,
01:27 both to the trial of virtue and the exercise of truth?
01:31 To me, it's an interesting logic.
01:35 And he says this here and a couple of pages over,
01:38 he says, "Well knows he who uses to consider,
01:41 that our faith and knowledge thrives by exercise,
01:46 as well as our limbs and complexion.
01:49 Truth is compared in Scripture to a streaming fountain,
01:55 if her waters flow not in a perpetual progression,
01:58 they sicken into a muddy pool of conformity and tradition.
02:03 A fool may be a heretic in the truth,
02:06 and if he believe things only
02:07 because his pastor says so,
02:09 or the Assembly so determines,
02:11 without knowing other reason,
02:13 though his belief be true,
02:17 yet the very truth he holds becomes his heresy."
02:20 You know, this is something
02:21 that I wish my fellow Adventist understood.
02:24 We're preparing for a crisis.
02:26 We have as the New Testament says,
02:29 you know, the oracles delivered,
02:30 very oracles of God delivered to us.
02:32 But if we don't know what they mean,
02:34 we haven't tested them by experience.
02:37 You know, they might as well be pearls before swine.
02:42 And he says, "A man may be a heretic in the truth,
02:44 and if he believe things
02:45 only because his pastor says so,"
02:47 repeating it, "or the Assembly so determines,
02:50 without knowing other reason,
02:51 though his belief be true,
02:53 yet the very truth he holds becomes his heresy.
02:57 There is not any burden that some would gladly post off
03:00 to another than to charge and care of their religion."
03:04 And again, this is how
03:07 it will work in a time of stress.
03:09 There is no shortage of those
03:12 who will put you on the guardrail
03:14 for practicing religion,
03:16 as they wish you to be practiced.
03:18 And very often, most times that is the wrong way to go.
03:22 He says, "There be, who knows not that...
03:25 Who knows that
03:26 there be of Protestants and professors
03:28 who live and die in as arrant an implicit faith
03:33 as any lay Papist of Loretto."
03:36 Speaking to Protestants, you know,
03:38 just because you're a Protestant
03:39 you're not saved.
03:40 You think, you know the Bible, if you don't experience it,
03:42 if you don't understand it, you're still wrong.
03:45 And then he doesn't conclude.
03:47 But I want to conclude with this little paragraph,
03:49 he says, "Where there is much desire to learn,
03:54 there of necessity will be much arguing,
03:59 much writing, many opinions,
04:02 for opinion in good men is
04:04 but knowledge in the making.
04:09 Under these fantastic terrors of sect and schism,
04:13 we wrong the earnest and zealous thirst
04:17 after knowledge and understanding
04:19 which God hath stirred up in this city."
04:25 The experiment in England ended badly,
04:29 even though I've not so much defended,
04:32 but I speak of it often
04:33 because it was a grand moment in English history.
04:36 There's no question
04:37 when the Puritans tried to purify,
04:40 not just the Church of England, but the entire state.
04:43 It failed for the reasons that he's giving there.
04:46 Oliver Cromwell, who was not as big a despot
04:49 as the mostly Catholic influenced historians nowadays,
04:53 who can't dare speak well of him.
04:56 Oliver Cromwell wasn't as bad as he appeared.
04:58 In fact, ironically, he even allowed to be
05:01 published in his lifetime during his reign, a book,
05:06 a how to book on how to assassinate him.
05:09 I can promise you such a book
05:11 would not be allowed in the United States today.
05:13 If you wrote a book
05:14 on how to assassinate a president,
05:17 you would have to be the FBI knocking at your door
05:19 and the judges gaveling you to other regions.
05:24 Oliver Cromwell allowed that,
05:25 but his regime after his death was sudden too, by an illness,
05:29 his regime collapsed totally
05:31 because he attempted
05:33 to remolarize an entire country.
05:36 He appointed major generals over military districts,
05:39 his job like the muttawa,
05:42 I think they're called, or the religious police
05:44 in Saudi Arabia are trying today.
05:46 They went around daily
05:48 watching the behavior in the godly,
05:51 the public godliness of every citizen,
05:53 things like kite flying, games, dances,
05:56 all of the frivolities of life,
05:59 which included many wrong things,
06:01 but also many harmless pursuits were forbidden.
06:04 And so the people that had enough of that
06:06 by the time Cromwell died
06:07 and they rushed to invite the king back.
06:10 John Milton understood very plainly that
06:15 you cannot be a conscience for another person.
06:19 You can, of course, point them toward the cross.
06:21 You can, of course,
06:23 explain to them in the best language
06:25 you can summon.
06:26 And the best language is your own life.
06:28 You can explain to them the things of God
06:30 and the law that it has for you
06:33 and how they may partake of that.
06:34 You know, I've decided that's the witness.
06:37 That is the definitive witness that can never be gainsaid.
06:42 If you can tell someone else the Lord Jesus changed me,
06:46 and this is what inspires me.
06:48 Other people may want that
06:49 if they see something exemplary in your life.
06:52 George Bush tried it at least got him elected.
06:54 And I can't comment further than that,
06:56 but he says, Jesus was his favorite person
06:59 because He changed my life.
07:01 I remember in a debate with Christopher Hitchens,
07:04 the great skeptic who used to shame
07:07 and embarrass most Christians,
07:10 Muslims, and others of faith who argued with him.
07:13 He couldn't answer Tony Blair and the Reverend El Sharpton
07:17 who had some weird ideas of his own,
07:19 but he couldn't answer either of those
07:20 because both of them refused to argue
07:22 I noted and said, Jesus changed my life.
07:26 This is what He did for me.
07:28 You can't change them.
07:30 And John Milton, I believe was on
07:33 to a powerful argument in favor of free speech.
07:36 Unless something is openly seditious and dangerous,
07:39 which it may well be determined that
07:43 some of the tweets and other communications
07:46 of recent months in the United States
07:50 were inspiring people to violence
07:51 and rebellion and so on.
07:53 If such that is not the sort of thing
07:55 that any law allows.
07:57 Under British, and American, and Western law,
08:00 if you incite a crowd to violence, you're responsible.
08:04 That's a well-established legal principle.
08:07 But as far as public expression,
08:10 why can we think that we could ever restrict anybody?
08:15 One of my earliest memories as a young man in Australia
08:18 was my father took me along
08:20 to Hyde Park in Sydney, Australia named after
08:23 Hyde Park in England.
08:24 And there on a weekend,
08:26 anybody could come along
08:28 and very literally they would often
08:29 have a little wooden box.
08:31 They would stand up on it and it would hold forth.
08:34 I heard communist espousing
08:36 the most virulent form of Marxism.
08:38 I heard proto gay rights types
08:43 way before it ever was well known,
08:45 arguing against patriarchy and all the rest,
08:48 interesting to hear people.
08:49 They were harmless allowed to share it in public.
08:53 And if they had any value, others could pick up on it.
08:58 Never harmed England or Australia
09:00 or other places to let people talk freely like that.
09:03 It gives someone the idea
09:05 that the world is at their fingertips,
09:06 ideas are exciting and it can lead to political
09:11 and social reform
09:13 and advancement in spectacular ways.
09:16 What we want to avoid need to avoid is the attempt
09:21 to restrict the God given right of others
09:24 to exercise their conscience
09:27 and their faculties in a way
09:31 that will lead them toward this pile of wonder
09:33 unknowingly truth.
09:38 It's worth remembering that
09:39 many people have lost their lives
09:43 for saying the wrong thing.
09:45 And in our modern era,
09:46 people have even lost their lives
09:48 for thinking the wrong thing,
09:50 and movies have been made about
09:52 such crazy phenomena as inception,
09:56 before you even do something you're convicted.
09:59 But in reality, freedom of speech
10:01 is integral to how life functions
10:03 in our world.
10:04 Freedom of speech is integral
10:06 to how we function before the Lord God Himself.
10:10 God did not force Adam and Eve to think
10:14 and to do as he wanted.
10:16 He urged them.
10:17 He educated them.
10:19 They made a wrong choice,
10:20 but we can make the right choices.
10:23 We can speak about what we know.
10:25 And for someone else to try to restrict us
10:28 is to do the devil's own work
10:30 and to be a very serpent in disguise.
10:33 We are not going to enter into that fallacy again.
10:38 For Liberty Insider, this is Lincoln Steed.


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