Welcome back to
the Liberty Insider
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before the break with
guest Christopher Steed,
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as I say, good
last name, my son.
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We were talking
about many things,
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but from the
point of view of COVID
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and the
restrictions we're facing
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and how a
Christian or indeed anyone
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with any moral
convictions is able to,
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and should reach past that
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and share what they have, right?
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It's a tricky time, tricky time.
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And again, I'd
like to get your opinion
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as a young person, you know,
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you're a work in
progress like I am,
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but the work is
coming to an end.
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Yeah.
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You know, how have
you decided personally,
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how will you deal
with this from here on,
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because what I
need to preface it,
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I think there's a reasonable
chance that while we may
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somewhat get over COVID,
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I think it's that we're
not over it by any means.
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And I think we'll see a
radical increase between now
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and the end of, you
know, I wouldn't say
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when we're filming this,
but before the end of 2021,
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I think we're gonna to
be in panic mode again.
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I think so, too.
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So what would your
resolution be if you
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had to deal with this?
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I think from the experience
I've had with what I learned
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at Core, and then also
with what I saw while I was
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working at Core
and what I saw while
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I was working
at the summer camp,
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but the needs
that the kids showed.
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I would start a program
myself if I had the resources
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and the backing from the church.
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I would start a
program exactly like Core,
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teaching young people
how to spread the Word,
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you know, actually
showing them IRL in real life,
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how to do it, like giving them
that door-to-door experience
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like I got, because
honestly there is a need.
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I mean, even if it's
just one or two people going
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out door-to-door, you
know, just asking if, you know,
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people need prayer.
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I mean, that would
honestly make a huge difference
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because people are open to it.
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They're responsive to it.
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They need something to
believe in when they feel like
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there's nothing to believe in.
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You know, we're all
very familiar with Jesus
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and His 12 apostles.
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Judas sort of betrayed,
well, sort of betrayed Him,
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but he betrayed the
trust, no, but he betrayed.
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He didn't pan out
as far as a witness.
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Well, if you read the
gospels, Judas was part of some
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of the miracles and so
on, but what people forget
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is they were 70 people, a
larger group that Jesus sent
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out very
consciously to go door-to-door
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and into the cities and
far afield from Jerusalem.
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And it's worth
remembering the time they had,
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you know, it wasn't COVID,
but every disease you could
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imagine was at foot,
they didn't have immunization.
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So, there were
real risks in the Bible.
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It just talks about
leprosy that covered about
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any visible sense of
disease, including real leprosy
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and people dying of cancer.
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You know, now,
we just see cancer
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as something in
an oncology ward,
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and you might die from
it, but in that country,
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and that time, as well as
some third world countries now,
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you know, cancer might lead,
you see some of the huge lump
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hanging off them and
oozing sores and so on.
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And you could
catch, they would think you
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could catch it as
well as that they were
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a city under occupation.
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It was a military occupation
that the very least to compare
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to the day.
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Don't you think
that'd be right in saying
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it was about the
same as going out
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witnessing
door-to-door in Baghdad?
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Yeah, I'd say about the same.
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Same sort of risk,
there's violent men around.
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One of Jesus' own
disciples was a zealot.
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They were basically
the Al Qaeda of the time
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and caught up with them.
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Shortly after Jesus'
death, there was a rebellion
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against the Romans and
the city was destroyed.
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So, not one
stone was on the other,
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as Jesus said,
and for 400 years,
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this is an
interesting historical fact.
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Nobody even knew
where the temple had been.
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Nope, it was that destroyed.
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It was just, it just part
of the stones in the area.
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So, it was a highly
dangerous time from health
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and security, and
they still went out.
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So, I, you know,
I'm sure that today
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we're called to do something,
not foolishly, but consciously.
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And it's COVID this year.
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Next year it could be
disease Brocks, I don't know.
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May be ones or two,
and decides fixing it.
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No, I'm just joking,
but it could be anything.
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In fact, it will be this
book that I shared before.
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I think you've got
it. Yeah, I got it.
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Well, it doesn't so, to
say, it's the end of time,
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that's not a theological book.
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It speaks of the inevitability.
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In fact, one of
the most scary stories
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there was when they were
dealing with Ebola in Africa,
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you know, these
are serious scientists
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that with the
isolation suits and everything,
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they went to a village
and while they were there,
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one of their members came
down with this incredible case.
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They thought of Ebola.
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There were sores all
over him. He couldn't breathe.
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I mean, he was dying
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and they
airlifted him out of the US
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and work with him
for a couple of weeks.
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And he survived, but they never
could identify what it was.
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It wasn't Ebola,
it was something else.
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And the lesson they got
out, there are things even worse
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than Ebola floating around.
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And they almost
don't know what they are,
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but they know they're there.
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And at any given time,
when the conditions are right,
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that something like
that could leap off and be,
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like even now
in the Middle East,
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have you heard of MERS?
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Yeah.
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I heard you talking about it.
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That's or a
common term, camel flu.
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They have that
in the Middle East
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and it's
already caused troubles.
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Of those that
get it 20 to 40% die.
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If that escapes,
you know, God help us.
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And, you know, God does help us,
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but the lesson of anyone
listening on religious liberty,
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we need to do and to dare
in spite of the situation,
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taking due diligence
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about protecting ourselves,
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but not staying in our
kennel until it's over.
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It never will be over.
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It never was over from, Eden on,
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sin is ravaged
and come after us.
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But we need to do what we can.
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So, yeah, I'm happy to hear
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your feedback from
witnessing door-to-door.
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And I know, I remember
when you told me that someone
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asked you to pray
with them at the door.
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That was like
mainlining faith, wasn't it?
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You felt like I am
doing something special here.
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I mean, the fact
that when we were giving
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Bible studies, we got
the feedback from them.
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Like after every
Bible study we were like,
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"Wouldn't you find
this one interesting?
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Do you have any
further questions?
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Any pointers for us?"
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My work partner and
because we had prayer
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partners were paired to twos.
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So, there was
always, you and someone else.
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And when we were
giving the Bible studies,
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one of our younger
men, he was about our age.
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I see between
20 and 28, I'd say,
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college student working
his way through college.
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And he was Christian but
he didn't really believe,
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believe like he knew
that there was a God,
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he knew that the
seventh day was the right day
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and everything like
that, but he didn't know why.
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And we started
going through the studies
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and he's like, you
know, if you guys hadn't,
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you know, come and talk to me,
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I really
wouldn't know any of this.
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You guys are doing a great job.
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And we're just
two college aged kids
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in the same situation as he is.
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We really, when
we first got there,
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I mean, I'm talking for myself.
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I knew a little bit,
but I know some of the kids
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who got there didn't know
about half the stuff they talked
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about or even knew about.
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That's why it's
a training program,
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but there's nothing
that can internalize better
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than sharing something.
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I learned that many months ago
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when I was first asked to
teach the Sabbath school lesson.
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I didn't like
the idea, but I mean,
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you study it first
of all ahead of time,
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and then even just
sharing it, you reinforcing
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and then the dynamic.
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So, there's nothing
like doing something to learn
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and to internalize
what's important to you.
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And so, it's a great testimony.
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It really is, every time.
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I envy you on it and it
used to be that every pastor
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of our church, the
Seventh-day Adventist Church,
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that was prerequisite
to being a pastor to go out
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selling door-to-door.
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So, you've got a skill
you're going to carry with you,
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aren't you?
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Absolutely.
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Um, I see in the
future, you know,
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me being able to go
out and give Bible studies
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and no matter where I am,
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no matter what situation I'm in.
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And I feel like that's a
skill that every young man
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or woman should have.
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And I would encourage
people to find schools like Core
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and go to them.
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Writing has been a
big part of my life
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and one of the major
tenets or commandments
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of good writing is to
avoid the passive tense
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and get things active.
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And when Jesus
told His disciples,
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"Go ye into all the world."
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That's active,
it's a command, action.
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You cannot just
sort of sit around.
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"Well, He said go after all."
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No. When He said go and go.
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There's a great privilege
that's been given to each of us
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that learn about Jesus Christ
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and what He was brought
to accomplish in this world
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and what He's
charged for us to follow on
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and finish for Him.
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And it's an active command.
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Whether we're
young or old, we can go,
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we can tell, we can
do and dare for the Lord,
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because one day
He is going to come
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and take us with Him
to an eternity of bliss
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and fulfillment
in worlds made new.
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For Liberty Insider,
this is Lincoln Steed.
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