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Rising Tide

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00:26 Welcome to the Liberty Insider.
00:27 This is a program bringing information
00:30 on religious liberty events in the past
00:33 and right up till the present in the US and around the world.
00:36 My name is Lincoln Steed, editor of Liberty magazine.
00:40 And I want to share
00:43 something special with you today
00:45 about the world we live in and,
00:49 well, I'll cut to the chase, an environmental concern.
00:53 It's certainly been the marker of the last generation
00:58 that there's been an increasing environmental awareness,
01:02 even as some major political forces
01:05 in the US deny that
01:07 there's anything to worry about.
01:09 And even though I might say
01:10 as natural calamities abound and multiply,
01:14 but I want to start by sharing a poem
01:16 that I think sets the scene in many ways,
01:20 by what it says and when it's said.
01:22 There was a Roman Catholic poet called Gerard Manley Hopkins,
01:27 wrote some interesting poems,
01:29 and one of them was God's Grandeur,
01:32 and he wrote it in 1877,
01:35 which to me is a very fraught time
01:38 because the Seventh-day Adventist Church
01:40 was organized in 1863,
01:43 right in the context of the American Civil War,
01:47 when everything was going crazy.
01:50 You know, million people died in a very small, young country.
01:55 But yet the Adventist doctrine at that time
02:00 and now was predicated on several basic things,
02:03 including the three angels' messages
02:06 of Revelation 14.
02:10 And the first one says,
02:13 "It's a call to one of the Creator God
02:15 that created heaven and earth,
02:17 and everything that in them is."
02:19 In other words, the Creator and His creation,
02:23 that was the central rationality.
02:26 We're quite aware now, as the Bible says that
02:29 all creation is groaning together
02:31 in travail for its redemption.
02:33 And we should be aware as Adventists were
02:36 when they were talking about the end of all things
02:39 that God has promised to come
02:40 and destroy those that destroy the earth.
02:44 Unfortunately, it hasn't fully reached
02:46 that awareness in the US,
02:47 many Christians are into dominionism,
02:52 which, while it touches on our custody of the earth
02:55 really sees it more from a dominionist
02:58 or controlling point of view, like it's our
03:00 bounty to harvest the news as we see fit, rather than
03:04 in a stewardship relation to God.
03:08 But how Hopkins put it this way in this very short poem,
03:12 he says "The world is charged with the grandeur of God.
03:17 It will flame out, like shining from shook foil,
03:21 it gathers to a greatness, like the ooze of oil crushed.
03:26 Why do men then now not reck his rod.
03:31 Generations have trod, have trod, have trod.
03:35 And all is seared with trade, bleared, smeared with toil.
03:40 And wears man's smudge and shares man's smell,
03:43 the soil is bare now, nor can foot feel, being shod.
03:49 And for all this, nature is never spent,
03:52 there lives the dearest freshness deep down things.
03:57 And though the last lights off the black west went,
04:01 oh, morning,
04:02 at the brown brink eastward, springs.
04:05 Because the Holy Ghost over the bent world broods
04:09 with warm breast and with ah!
04:13 Bright wings.
04:15 You know, it's a message of hope.
04:18 And an interesting...
04:22 well, not that that caught to me
04:23 but separating the destruction
04:25 and the shopworn nature of this world,
04:29 with the fact that God's Spirit is not yet
04:31 withdrawn from us and His creation
04:36 With that in mind,
04:37 let me go through three documents
04:42 that Rome has come up with lately
04:44 that end on this concern, the environment.
04:48 The first one
04:52 Caritas in veritate,
04:55 charity in truth came out in 19...
05:06 Sorry, not 19, 2008.
05:09 No wonder I was stumbling on it.
05:11 Came out in 2008, which was a very important year
05:14 because that was the year of the...
05:18 You could define it as the last great depression.
05:22 It was never defined that way, but it was pretty much
05:24 a depression in an economic meltdown,
05:29 I remember at one point,
05:31 reading and seeing graphics to illustrate it
05:34 that 60% of the world's merchant fleet
05:37 was at anchor, the world economy broke.
05:40 It just collapsed.
05:43 And, you know, God's mercy endures forever,
05:47 and the mechanisms of many people
05:50 were successful too
05:51 that we've bounced back and things,
05:52 according to the president "Have never been better,"
05:55 whether that's true or not remains to be seen,
05:58 but we have struggled back from the brink,
06:01 but it was pretty bad in 2008.
06:03 And that year,
06:04 as newly elected president Obama
06:08 headed off for his first meeting of the G8.
06:11 He stopped in at Rome,
06:13 as has been the want of presidents
06:16 and other leaders of late.
06:18 It's a bit like in the Old Testament,
06:20 it says "In the spring of the year,
06:21 when the kings will want to go forth to war."
06:24 Well, the kings that want to go to Rome nowadays,
06:27 and he stopped off in Rome, and met with the pope.
06:32 And it was Pope Benedict
06:35 and he gave him
06:36 a leather bound copy of this document,
06:38 Laudato si', just released, and not Laudato si'.
06:44 Caritas in veritate, just released.
06:48 And...
06:49 Interesting document,
06:51 I remember reading a review of it
06:52 in a secular magazine,
06:54 they reviewed it as though was a political document,
06:57 which really was.
06:59 Because it dealt with issues of economic collapse,
07:03 environmental degradation, national sovereignty issues
07:07 caused by things like drone attacks,
07:10 and assassinations and so on and invasions.
07:13 It dealt with capital and labor,
07:15 the trade unions, minimum wage,
07:18 the plight of the poor and so on.
07:21 But, of course, economic collapse
07:23 was top of the list.
07:24 And the document was evaluated by this magazine,
07:30 I remember, and I gave it pretty good marks.
07:32 But at the end,
07:33 they made a very telling comment,
07:35 not a religious magazine.
07:37 I never found them much concerned with anything
07:40 except they had a little softness
07:42 for discussing the genocide
07:44 against the Jews in World War II,
07:47 which we should all have, it was a horrific time
07:50 and an act by Nazi Germany.
07:52 But other than that,
07:54 they were never interested in religious things.
07:55 And they said this is a great document.
07:58 It's a pretty good take on how to deal with these things.
08:01 But they said the trouble is, you accept this document,
08:05 the pope comes with it.
08:08 I thought that's very perceptive of them.
08:10 Because in Liberty magazine
08:11 where I can't afford to attack any religion,
08:15 because religious freedom means everyone
08:16 has the right to exist.
08:19 My angle on Rome is that it's an existential threat
08:24 to the separation of church and state,
08:26 which is a foundational constitutional truth
08:31 for the United States
08:32 and that's so because Rome is a state.
08:38 Mussolini granted them their own little state
08:41 of a few hundred acres.
08:42 So they function without the political leaders,
08:47 but it's also a church.
08:48 So depending on its needs, it can be a church or a state.
08:51 It's the absolute threat
08:53 to the separation of church and state,
08:54 it is the church and the state.
08:56 And so I thought that comment was very valid.
09:00 And in the document I read toward the end
09:03 that says there is a need for a global authority
09:07 with the power to act and to enforce.
09:10 And coming from the representative
09:12 of a church that in the mediaeval era
09:15 was quite inclined to force people into compliance
09:18 with church views.
09:19 I thought that's not a nice statement,
09:22 that's heading the wrong direction.
09:25 Well, only a few years ago now, another document appeared
09:31 under the papal auspices, Laudato si'.
09:35 And I almost think that this is the payoff to that
09:39 first Caritas in veritate document
09:43 that wasn't the first time they discussed the environment,
09:46 but it was a major aspect after the economic collapse.
09:52 Laudato si'
09:55 is an environmental document
09:59 and it starts off by saying that
10:02 the earth is like our youngest sister,
10:06 she is dying, she's in great distress.
10:11 And unless we do something, and by we,
10:14 the document makes it very plain,
10:16 not just Catholics, not just Christians,
10:17 the whole world, unless we do something,
10:21 she will die.
10:23 And in dying, we will all die with her.
10:25 So the stakes are pretty high.
10:29 You know, when the stakes are like
10:30 that extraordinary things happen.
10:33 Talking about the genocide against the Jews,
10:35 I remember reading with horror.
10:39 The story once of a number of Jews
10:41 who are hiding in a crawlspace in a home.
10:44 There weren't many of them,
10:45 including a mother who had a newborn child.
10:49 I think the child had actually been born
10:51 while they were hiding in this crawlspace.
10:54 And while they're all hiding there, you know,
10:59 couldn't sneeze or speak,
11:01 the Nazi troopers came searching the house
11:06 and the child began to cry.
11:10 And what would they do about it?
11:12 And so by mutual consent, actually more than consent,
11:16 demand, they told the mother to suffocate the child.
11:22 You know, those are horrific tales,
11:24 and the choice that they appeared to have
11:27 was child's life or their own.
11:30 If they let it cry,
11:32 they would all die including the child,
11:33 but if they snuff the life of that child
11:36 out they would survive and they did survive.
11:41 When the issue of environmentalism
11:44 was presented on that level, we're all about to die
11:48 because the world's dying, unless we do something.
11:51 What if you don't go along with such a prescription?
11:56 I think it's very likely and it's such an emergency,
12:00 there will be no option.
12:02 Likely no option given for those
12:04 that don't take the steps that this global authority
12:07 with the power to act and to enforce might recommend.
12:11 It's food for thought,
12:13 because we're coming to extreme times.
12:16 And I know there are some that
12:17 don't even want to talk about global warming.
12:20 And I think they will eventually
12:22 but I also think it's been framed badly.
12:26 You can argue whether man's actions
12:30 have caused this warming and thereby
12:34 radical disruption of climate patterns
12:36 and production of extremes of hot and cold.
12:40 You can argue about whether man had anything to do with it.
12:43 But if you take that off the table
12:45 and just describe what is and you can allow that
12:48 it could either be man's actions
12:51 or it could be a cycle, natural or, you know,
12:57 created by something beyond their kin.
12:59 Once you do that
13:00 then I think it's a lot easier to discuss
13:02 because anybody
13:03 that's traveled the world lately,
13:05 anybody that's lived other than
13:07 in their own little corner of the universe,
13:09 anybody that's watched the news knows that
13:12 the world is out of whack, out of whack.
13:17 This year, fires in Australia in a greater degree
13:22 than seen in a lifetime,
13:25 earlier in the year than usual
13:26 'cause of different rainfall patterns.
13:29 Last year, it was the Amazon basin burning
13:34 as well as much of California.
13:37 And, you know, this storm this year,
13:39 next year who knows?
13:41 At a limit of these calamities is Ellen White writing,
13:45 I think prophetically
13:47 to Seventh-day Adventists in a book
13:48 called Great Controversy.
13:49 She says that the sequence of natural calamities
13:53 is going to cause people to say that
13:55 God's wrath is upon us and that to save ourselves
13:59 we need to do some extraordinary things
14:03 in public religion and government support
14:06 of religious observance
14:07 and if you don't go along with that,
14:09 you will be seen as enemies of mankind.
14:12 It's not a farfetched scenario
14:14 from what we've already seen in recent years.
14:18 I'll take a break now.
14:20 But come back, and after a short break,
14:24 we'll continue this discussion.


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