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00:04 Welcome back to the Liberty Insider.
00:07 Before the break I was talking to my last guest
00:10 about his starting a program called
00:15 'The Manly Man' program.
00:17 Well, this is another guest and,
00:19 welcome, Steig.
00:21 Thank you, Lincoln.
00:22 You're my guest this time, Steig Westerberg.
00:24 And I have to even look at it
00:26 because I want to get your name right.
00:28 And there is a connection to my last guest,
00:30 but you are the man of the moment.
00:34 The Manly Man program,
00:36 I think is needed in society
00:38 and the irony is the last time I saw you and we spoke,
00:43 we were both attending a Montana Men's Group...
00:46 Yes. Meeting, weekend meeting.
00:48 Yeah.
00:49 Actually, it was in a hut, up near Bear Canyon,
00:52 wasn't that in...
00:54 Bear Canyon Ski Lodge. In Montana.
00:56 Yeah, Bear Canyon Ski Lodge.
00:57 That was a Manly Man get together.
00:59 Yes, it was.
01:00 But something came up there and you have a burden on it
01:02 that I want to discuss with you.
01:04 You're the CEO and the founder of Altoserv.
01:06 Yes.
01:08 A software company to deal with information...
01:13 Yes. Dissemination.
01:14 In fact, as I was joking, you probably know
01:17 or could speak a lot of the email controversies
01:20 swirling around this country.
01:21 I could.
01:23 And how the service work? Yeah.
01:24 But what does you,
01:27 just tell me briefly the background
01:30 that you have in computers
01:33 and information dissemination
01:35 because you've had some very successful companies I know.
01:37 I have, well,
01:40 so I am a bit of a technologist
01:42 from a perspective of, you know,
01:45 coming up with solutions to problems that exist.
01:49 And Altoserv is focused on helping consumers
01:53 be prepared for disasters.
01:55 Yeah.
01:56 Just this last week, we had hurricane Matthew,
02:00 sweep through the eastern part of the US.
02:02 Literally, thousands of people
02:04 ended up with significant damage.
02:07 They need to then go out and file insurance claims.
02:11 People often don't really understand
02:14 what it means to be prepared,
02:16 to have to do something like that.
02:18 And that's what Altoserv...
02:20 You facilitate their response
02:23 so that they can link to the right agencies
02:25 and the right sources of help or?
02:27 Well, specific...
02:28 How does it work exactly?
02:29 Specifically, Altoserv is all about
02:31 empowering the individual to be prepared.
02:34 So you gotta put yourself
02:36 in the position of imagining a loss.
02:40 Imagine that you went home from this business trip
02:43 and your house had burnt to the ground,
02:45 would you...
02:46 I do imagine that sometimes...
02:48 It does happen.
02:49 It happened to me, okay,
02:51 so, not that the house burnt to the ground
02:52 but we had a fire.
02:54 We've often gone on trips, and we were like a 100,
02:55 200 miles away...
02:57 Did we leave the oven on? Yes.
02:59 And so, you know, envision what would you want
03:03 to have proof of, in order to substantiate the loss...
03:06 I always see the end.
03:07 And even to remember everything that should be in the loss,
03:10 you know, we are always buying things
03:13 and having things placed around the house
03:15 that literally you forget about,
03:17 they just kinda fade into the background.
03:18 You know it's there,
03:20 did you remember what it was,
03:22 the make, the model, when you purchased it?
03:24 How much you paid for it?
03:25 These are all crucial things to getting an accurate and...
03:29 So you help them establish a database of all their...
03:33 We focus on it from the consumer perspective, right.
03:36 So now, you know, the consumers need
03:39 somebody to enable them and power them
03:41 to understand what they have.
03:44 All this information is digitally stored
03:47 on our cloud based system
03:49 and then when it comes time for a loss,
03:52 which inevitably will occur to everybody,
03:57 we take that information and we immediately price it,
04:01 we have over 3000 retailers
04:04 that are participating in our system.
04:08 And so based upon make, model, description,
04:11 how much you paid for it, et-cetera, we will price it,
04:13 we can do that instantaneously,
04:15 whereas traditional approaches
04:18 require you to write your loss down on a piece of paper,
04:21 it gets mailed off some place,
04:23 weeks later, sometimes longer,
04:26 they will come back with a value.
04:28 And establishing value is crucial
04:31 because that's what determines the size of the cheque
04:33 that you're gonna get out of the insurance company.
04:36 If you have purchased, you know,
04:38 a shirt and it cost you $80
04:41 and they come back in, valued at $50
04:44 and you've already purchased that replacement at $80,
04:47 you're out that delta.
04:48 And insurance adjusters are flexible,
04:51 they're wonderful people but, you know,
04:54 they have parameters placed around them
04:57 and they have hundreds of claims
04:59 that they're working through, each adjuster.
05:01 Hundreds of claims that
05:03 they're constantly working and so,
05:05 you know, they stay within parameters
05:07 and so it's best to that their claim get valued right away.
05:10 It's an interesting concept,
05:12 in conjunction with end of the world scenario
05:15 or the disasters at a company in times...
05:18 Yes.
05:19 People are most famously,
05:24 moments, letter they sent...
05:26 Yes.
05:27 You know, they're putting up with six months worth of food
05:28 and all of...
05:30 Those, the things you could argue,
05:31 could do but what...
05:33 Yeah.
05:34 What you're saying is probably
05:35 a more immediately practical thing to do
05:37 expecting some sort of...
05:38 Yeah.
05:40 Dislocation, short of the mountains falling and the...
05:43 Right.
05:45 And the law's actual appearance.
05:46 This is... And when you...
05:48 A very good program.
05:49 And when you have gone through that sort of a disaster,
05:52 it feels like it is an end time disaster.
05:54 Oh, I've heard too.
05:56 Okay, I mean, and, you know, so the goal, of course,
05:59 is to ensure that you're not victimized twice.
06:01 You've already been a victim once
06:03 by whatever the accident was,
06:05 whatever the peril was,
06:06 you then don't want to be in a situation
06:09 where you are not able to get fully recovered and rapidly.
06:13 Yeah.
06:14 Now it's a wonderful concept and, you know,
06:16 even before our discussion that day,
06:18 I didn't fully understand what you're doing, it's...
06:20 Yeah.
06:21 It's not just a good business,
06:23 it's good common sense
06:25 and it does connect with preparing for the future
06:28 which is what we're all trying to do.
06:29 Yes.
06:31 Christians generally, in living in town where the end
06:33 and on religious liberty we're,
06:36 we have liberty now
06:37 but you can't take it for granted,
06:39 you have to prepare...
06:40 Yeah.
06:41 For when it may be under more open threat
06:44 and have a contingency plan.
06:46 That is correct.
06:47 So what do you think?
06:51 Now I'll ask you personally,
06:52 I know you're not a survivalist.
06:53 No.
06:55 You're a fellow Christian, Seventh day Adventist.
06:56 Yes.
06:57 What you've put in essence,
07:00 part of this into practise through a business and...
07:03 But what is it that struck you about the age that we live in?
07:07 Do you think this is the time of peril
07:09 and how do we deal with it?
07:11 Well, it is. Instantly.
07:12 It is a time of peril and the peril, of course,
07:15 is greater in certain regions of the world.
07:19 You know, we read about the rapid events
07:22 and the horrible events that will happen,
07:25 in books of Daniel and Revelation
07:27 and guess what?
07:28 That is happening today, right now.
07:31 It does seem to me...
07:32 Yeah, in certain parts of the world.
07:33 Yeah, now here specifically in the US,
07:36 we see problems where laws and agencies are crafting rules
07:43 distinctly different than was
07:45 that are restricting religious freedom.
07:49 That's not quite as severe as, you know,
07:53 being under threat of having
07:54 your head removed by a terrorist.
07:56 Well, no, but...
07:57 But nonetheless...
07:59 One thing can lead to another. Yeah, exactly.
08:00 It may not be totally separate but that may be the end point
08:03 even for an innocuous loss.
08:04 Absolutely, and I see pressures on all fronts.
08:09 I feel that we're very far down that particular path.
08:13 You know, it's become almost trendy
08:15 to talk about the Nazi era
08:18 and some of the things that happened.
08:20 But I think in a way familiarity has bred ignorance.
08:23 Mm-hm.
08:25 Just a couple of days ago,
08:26 I was listening to a program
08:28 where they were some survivors of all of that
08:31 and they said something
08:32 that's often not thought much about.
08:35 They said that it still troubles them,
08:38 they can't really get their head around,
08:41 how a western civilized rational supposedly society
08:47 could establish this process not just to kill people
08:52 because that's happening all the time unfortunately,
08:54 the Middle East and violence in the streets
08:56 even in the US cities,
08:57 there's violence, murder and mayhem...
08:59 Yeah. In many ways around us.
09:00 But they said the fact that it was without much emotion,
09:03 it was done in a bureaucratic way...
09:05 Mm-hm.
09:06 Cold bloodedly in a western democracy
09:09 and civilised people.
09:11 Yeah.
09:12 And by inference that means
09:14 that it's not impossible anyway.
09:17 And there's things that
09:19 we need to remind ourselves as a community
09:22 or else we can drift into that...
09:23 Absolutely.
09:25 It's really,
09:26 it's the bureaucratic anonymity of Groundswell Movements
09:31 that become institutionalized
09:33 that could do such a bloodless thing.
09:35 Yes, yeah.
09:36 And I know, know your burden
09:39 is to use the power of the internet
09:43 and the new communications tools
09:44 to keep reminding people...
09:46 Yeah.
09:47 Of their rights, their freedoms
09:48 and to keep a public view
09:52 on some of these legal developments
09:54 that could otherwise, sort of,
09:56 secretly develop and then maybe,
09:59 suddenly come upon us
10:01 or even then coming upon us suddenly.
10:03 Yes.
10:05 Well, you are absolutely right,
10:06 what really kind of got me focused
10:08 on this aspect of things was a senate bill
10:12 in California focused on
10:15 restricting the way their schools,
10:19 private, non-public I mean,
10:21 I think it's important for people to understand,
10:23 these are private institutions,
10:27 and the lack of ability for them to be religious
10:31 in the way that their tenant should teach them to be.
10:35 And so historically, religious organizations
10:38 like this have been exempt from laws
10:41 that are largely in a secular world
10:44 viewed as discriminatory.
10:48 And this bill was an attempt to start picking a way at that,
10:52 right, and start removing some of those protections.
10:55 And one of the rationales for doing that is that
10:59 these schools take government money.
11:01 Yeah.
11:02 And that they're publicly accredited
11:04 and they're open to all people.
11:06 Yeah.
11:07 Because it is worth mentioning
11:08 and what you say is even worse
11:10 than you could describe it quickly.
11:12 But it's worth saying that churches
11:15 and their core operations are still well protected.
11:18 Yeah.
11:20 These were educational institutions...
11:21 Right, the educational institutions.
11:22 Not the insurance itself.
11:24 Yes, and this is sort of, and out there,
11:25 thing that's semi public, I mean, it is public but,
11:28 you know, as far as structurally,
11:30 it's semi public.
11:31 Right.
11:33 And they are very vulnerable
11:34 and you're right to be troubled about this.
11:35 We're gonna have programs on this in the future.
11:37 We fully expect while this particular
11:40 initiative was defeated,
11:41 it will come back and come back.
11:42 Yes.
11:44 And so the intention to meddle
11:45 in the autonomy of church schools is very real
11:48 and the probability of its quite success is very high.
11:52 So we need to counter this.
11:54 See, I view this situation,
11:58 I view that education is a highly personal choice
12:02 between the students and their parents.
12:04 And they make a choice for higher education
12:09 while thinking very carefully about
12:11 what their own personal belief system is.
12:13 So they're choosing to go to a private Christian school
12:17 that has the beliefs that they embody in their life.
12:19 That's a very good point,
12:21 the expectation of the families,
12:23 sending a child there is not what the government
12:26 or some government politicians are wanting in this case,
12:30 it's voting the very will...
12:32 In a certain sense, the will of the people.
12:34 Yes, yeah, they absolutely are.
12:37 And so in this particular case,
12:39 my belief is that the people are buying a bill of goods,
12:44 they're paying for a certain of level of education
12:47 and they should be able to get what they're purchasing.
12:50 It's been said and I think it was in the 'Good Book'
12:53 that a house divided against itself cannot stand.
12:57 As we look to the Middle East today,
12:59 that is the epidemy of that comment
13:03 because not only is there an undeniable and in fact,
13:08 extreme persecution of Christians,
13:11 that the different people groups within Islam
13:13 in the Middle East are at each other's throats.
13:16 This is a sad situation,
13:19 a situation that does illustrate
13:21 an end time scenario of every man's hand
13:24 being against his brother
13:25 and of great troubles and persecutions coming.
13:29 Somehow, the West and Christians
13:32 from areas outside this area of persecution
13:35 need to bring the charity and love
13:39 and accommodation that Christ represented
13:43 and need to bring what amounts to true religious freedom.
13:49 For Liberty Insider, this is Lincoln Steed.


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