Welcome back to the Liberty Insider. 00:00:05.33\00:00:07.44 Before the break, I'd put out some wild theories 00:00:07.47\00:00:11.01 about the Supremes of the court, 00:00:11.04\00:00:13.64 but we're discussing the ramifications 00:00:13.68\00:00:15.74 of Antonin Scalia's sudden death 00:00:15.78\00:00:18.61 and of course now the deadlock situation with his replacement. 00:00:18.65\00:00:21.08 Well, Senator Justice Antonin Scalia died. 00:00:21.12\00:00:24.25 All right. 00:00:24.29\00:00:25.65 No one expected, this is really what's that pick up-- 00:00:25.69\00:00:27.89 Well, actually, you know, 00:00:27.92\00:00:29.56 his health has been bad for the last-- 00:00:29.59\00:00:31.26 We found that out-- 00:00:31.29\00:00:32.63 Last 20 years in fact. 00:00:32.66\00:00:34.03 But he hadn't appeared to be well. 00:00:34.06\00:00:35.40 He had heart disease. 00:00:35.43\00:00:37.03 He had all kinds of factors 00:00:37.07\00:00:38.50 that were leading down this road. 00:00:38.53\00:00:40.80 He had diabetes. 00:00:40.84\00:00:42.17 But Ginsburg had pancreatic cancer 00:00:42.20\00:00:43.94 as well as some more recent health issue. 00:00:43.97\00:00:45.34 Yes, and he was a robust character, 00:00:45.37\00:00:47.21 and, you know, 00:00:47.24\00:00:48.58 he lived to the age of what was at 79, 00:00:48.61\00:00:50.71 I think this is what his-- 00:00:50.75\00:00:52.75 Yeah. 00:00:52.78\00:00:54.12 Anyway, the point is that, 00:00:54.15\00:00:57.22 when he died, all the Republican candidates, 00:00:57.25\00:01:00.99 every one of them except I think for Rand Paul, 00:01:01.02\00:01:05.09 during the Republican primary in 2016 said, 00:01:05.13\00:01:11.67 "We must elect someone or we must make sure 00:01:11.70\00:01:15.64 that a president that becomes president 00:01:15.67\00:01:17.61 appoint someone that's just like Antonin Scalia. 00:01:17.64\00:01:21.11 Because this is a time period 00:01:21.14\00:01:25.05 in which if the Supreme Court tilts to certain direction, 00:01:25.08\00:01:29.85 it will stay that way for the next 30, 40, 50 years. 00:01:29.88\00:01:34.46 We just don't know. 00:01:34.49\00:01:35.92 And so they're very concerned about that. 00:01:35.96\00:01:38.39 Well, of course, the Left is equally concerned, 00:01:38.43\00:01:41.40 'cause they want somebody 00:01:41.43\00:01:42.76 that's in there that will protect 00:01:42.80\00:01:44.13 the constitutional separation of church and state. 00:01:44.17\00:01:45.50 But there's an assumption 00:01:45.53\00:01:46.87 that they know exactly how each justice-- 00:01:46.90\00:01:49.50 That's true. 00:01:49.54\00:01:51.34 Adjudicates, and I don't think that's true. 00:01:51.37\00:01:53.64 Like Roberts, many times he's frustrated the Right Wing, 00:01:53.68\00:01:58.28 because he hasn't voted the way they expected. 00:01:58.31\00:02:00.52 But here's my point, 00:02:00.55\00:02:01.88 I've read six biographies on Justice Antonin Scalia. 00:02:01.92\00:02:05.72 And this is one of them, 00:02:05.75\00:02:07.12 this was the last one written on him 00:02:07.16\00:02:09.72 by Joan Biskupic of The Washington Post, 00:02:09.76\00:02:12.29 and currently on public broadcasting network. 00:02:12.33\00:02:15.30 But she is a longtime, 00:02:15.33\00:02:18.37 like 40 years covering the Supreme Court, 00:02:18.40\00:02:20.44 and is one of the leading experts on, 00:02:20.47\00:02:22.44 as a journalist covering the Supreme Court. 00:02:22.47\00:02:24.94 Most of this book on Justice Antonin Scalia 00:02:24.97\00:02:27.98 is based upon interviews with Justice Antonin Scalia himself. 00:02:28.01\00:02:32.51 And so it makes it the most authentic 00:02:32.55\00:02:34.28 and yet the most recent one. 00:02:34.32\00:02:35.68 It was published in 2006, but in each biography, 00:02:35.72\00:02:40.82 and I've recorded this. 00:02:40.86\00:02:43.29 Every biography, whether it was by James Stabb, 00:02:43.32\00:02:46.23 or Ralph Rossum, Bruce Allen Murphy, 00:02:46.26\00:02:51.73 and Joan Biskupic. 00:02:51.77\00:02:54.54 Each one of them have stated in interviews 00:02:54.57\00:02:59.37 with Justice Antonin Scalia 00:02:59.41\00:03:02.64 that, when he was right out of law school 00:03:02.68\00:03:05.51 at Harvard University Law School, 00:03:05.55\00:03:08.28 at the law firm of Jones, Day, 00:03:08.32\00:03:12.12 Reavis and Pogue in Cleveland, Ohio, 00:03:12.15\00:03:14.29 which was his first law firm. 00:03:14.32\00:03:16.69 When he was invited to the law firm's owner 00:03:16.73\00:03:21.33 of the firm, 00:03:21.36\00:03:22.70 he invited him to his home along with all of-- 00:03:22.73\00:03:24.23 Senior partner I guess. 00:03:24.27\00:03:25.60 Yeah, along with all of his colleagues to his house. 00:03:25.63\00:03:29.74 And justice, I mean, then attorney, 00:03:29.77\00:03:33.34 Anonin Scalia took off his shoes, 00:03:33.38\00:03:36.31 went and stood by the fireplace with a glass of chardonnay. 00:03:36.34\00:03:40.18 And while eating cheese and pretzel sticks 00:03:40.22\00:03:43.39 well, argued from seven in the evening 00:03:43.42\00:03:46.35 until three in the morning with his colleagues. 00:03:46.39\00:03:49.19 Just a big debate, a fun debate, 00:03:49.22\00:03:52.03 but a big debate over whether Sunday laws 00:03:52.06\00:03:54.66 were constitutional. 00:03:54.70\00:03:56.16 Blue laws, I think he was-- 00:03:56.20\00:03:57.53 Sunday Blue laws. 00:03:57.57\00:03:58.90 And Justice Scalia defending Sunday Blue laws to health-- 00:03:58.93\00:04:02.27 He's well known on that. 00:04:02.30\00:04:03.64 With everybody else arguing against him, 00:04:03.67\00:04:07.04 all right, which was interesting. 00:04:07.08\00:04:09.28 And I'd say, you know, I say to people, 00:04:09.31\00:04:13.18 who really want to make sure 00:04:13.21\00:04:15.88 that somebody like Justice Antonin Scalia 00:04:15.92\00:04:18.85 is back on the Supreme Court. 00:04:18.89\00:04:22.06 Think about what you're asking for? 00:04:22.09\00:04:24.19 Yeah, it's true, we don't know exactly how they would decide, 00:04:24.23\00:04:27.26 but do you want to take that risk? 00:04:27.30\00:04:29.20 I mean, for me as a Seventh-day Adventist Christian, 00:04:29.23\00:04:33.57 I certainly don't want somebody who is so overly conservative 00:04:33.60\00:04:37.87 and Catholic in their religious freedom perspective, 00:04:37.91\00:04:42.18 not that I don't believe 00:04:42.21\00:04:43.78 that Catholics have a right to religious freedom. 00:04:43.81\00:04:45.55 We all have a right to religious freedom. 00:04:45.58\00:04:48.05 They just as much as anybody else, if not more. 00:04:48.08\00:04:51.32 The point is that, 00:04:51.35\00:04:52.79 do we really want to stack the court with justices 00:04:52.82\00:04:57.63 who will threaten religious freedom 00:04:57.66\00:04:59.83 as we know it. 00:04:59.86\00:05:01.20 Yeah. No, certainly. 00:05:01.23\00:05:02.56 I think the answer obviously is not. 00:05:02.60\00:05:05.07 I have listened to him speak to, 00:05:05.10\00:05:06.97 and I didn't agree with everything, 00:05:07.00\00:05:10.07 but I understand where he is coming from. 00:05:10.11\00:05:12.27 And, you know, his idea of originalism, 00:05:12.31\00:05:15.34 you could dispute a little, 00:05:15.38\00:05:16.71 because how do you get into the heads of people totally? 00:05:16.75\00:05:19.61 But I think he was probably fairly safe on this. 00:05:19.65\00:05:23.28 I don't believe he was talking about National Sunday Law, 00:05:23.32\00:05:26.62 he was talking about state Blue laws, 00:05:26.65\00:05:29.02 and there's no question under the system that existed 00:05:29.06\00:05:32.53 before the Civil War, 00:05:32.56\00:05:33.90 and the incorporation of federal powers 00:05:33.93\00:05:36.77 that it was assumed 00:05:36.80\00:05:38.13 and they were established churches in different states. 00:05:38.17\00:05:41.00 And that was the mindset. 00:05:41.04\00:05:42.60 I think that's where he is coming from. 00:05:42.64\00:05:44.27 He was projecting onto it 00:05:44.31\00:05:45.84 though his very aggressive Catholicism. 00:05:45.87\00:05:48.38 And I've heard him speak, and it could be, 00:05:48.41\00:05:50.61 you could cringe sometimes to hear him speak that way. 00:05:50.65\00:05:53.58 But I'm not sure legally, he was totally wrong, 00:05:53.62\00:05:56.89 but yeah, sort of a red flag when a guy is this aggressive 00:05:56.92\00:05:59.75 on something that's lying dormant at the moment, 00:05:59.79\00:06:03.12 and we don't want him waking that up. 00:06:03.16\00:06:05.16 There is one judicial principle that Justice Scalia in my mind 00:06:05.19\00:06:09.20 did that was very positive. 00:06:09.23\00:06:10.97 And I think it was good for the court 00:06:11.00\00:06:13.40 to revive this particular principle. 00:06:13.44\00:06:15.30 And it's the idea that, yes, the Bill of Rights 00:06:15.34\00:06:19.57 represent the rights of minorities 00:06:19.61\00:06:21.74 or when any minority right 00:06:21.78\00:06:24.71 as listed in the Bill of Rights is affected 00:06:24.75\00:06:27.75 or any general right listed in the Bill of Rights 00:06:27.78\00:06:29.92 is affected. 00:06:29.95\00:06:31.92 You know, they need to have their rights protected 00:06:31.95\00:06:34.32 and they're constitutionally guaranteed. 00:06:34.36\00:06:37.09 And so you have the constitution 00:06:37.13\00:06:38.96 which represents, we the people, the majority, 00:06:38.99\00:06:41.96 the majority will of the people, okay. 00:06:42.00\00:06:45.70 But when you look at both, he said, you know, 00:06:45.73\00:06:48.44 "It's true, the Bill of Rights is there 00:06:48.47\00:06:50.01 to protect against abusive majorities." 00:06:50.04\00:06:53.31 But he said, "We have to understand 00:06:53.34\00:06:56.31 that the Constitution itself 00:06:56.34\00:06:59.91 that we have to weigh the two very carefully," he said. 00:06:59.95\00:07:02.88 Protects also against abusive minorities. 00:07:02.92\00:07:06.79 In other words, 00:07:06.82\00:07:08.16 can the minority abuse the majority? 00:07:08.19\00:07:11.53 And I think that was an interesting point. 00:07:11.56\00:07:13.73 And I think he is right in some respects, 00:07:13.76\00:07:16.67 how that applies in every instance, 00:07:16.70\00:07:19.07 I don't know how to provide an example for you. 00:07:19.10\00:07:22.77 Except that I would say, 00:07:22.80\00:07:24.84 if you look at the transgender movement 00:07:24.87\00:07:27.84 in this whole bathroom issue, 00:07:27.88\00:07:29.91 I think it's very important to look at that. 00:07:29.94\00:07:31.98 Because that seems like a minor issue, 00:07:32.01\00:07:34.78 why do we have to deal with that, 00:07:34.82\00:07:36.15 that's like the nat in the ointment 00:07:36.18\00:07:37.52 or the nat you want to kill in the wall 00:07:37.55\00:07:39.19 or fly that you want to get rid off. 00:07:39.22\00:07:40.72 It's an issue that just seems like, 00:07:40.76\00:07:42.76 why do we want to deal with this, 00:07:42.79\00:07:44.13 why do we have to deal with this-- 00:07:44.16\00:07:45.49 Maybe I'm missing something, 00:07:45.53\00:07:46.86 but that is not directly connected 00:07:46.90\00:07:48.23 to Supreme Court, is it? 00:07:48.26\00:07:49.60 Yeah, it will be, 00:07:49.63\00:07:50.97 because it will come to the Supreme Court. 00:07:51.00\00:07:52.50 Well, of course. Okay. 00:07:52.53\00:07:53.87 So the next justice-- 00:07:53.90\00:07:55.44 The big problem with this I think, 00:07:55.47\00:07:56.94 this is a sign of governmental bureaucratic overreach. 00:07:56.97\00:08:02.18 Here is something that's being begun 00:08:02.21\00:08:04.41 because of the general rights granted to-- 00:08:04.45\00:08:06.72 But they'll have to get sorted out by the court, 00:08:06.75\00:08:08.62 so eventually by US Supreme Court. 00:08:08.65\00:08:10.05 This has been a conscious choice 00:08:10.09\00:08:11.82 within the administration to-- 00:08:11.85\00:08:14.02 in its most extreme form demand this 00:08:14.06\00:08:16.79 of the school system in particular 00:08:16.83\00:08:19.36 where they have the power of the purse. 00:08:19.39\00:08:21.13 They can't force it, 00:08:21.16\00:08:22.70 but they've actually said directly, 00:08:22.73\00:08:24.63 if you don't go along with this in the state, 00:08:24.67\00:08:26.70 we will withdraw a federal-- 00:08:26.74\00:08:28.74 This is where I agree 00:08:28.77\00:08:30.11 with the Right Wing faction on this issue 00:08:30.14\00:08:31.64 because if you look at Title Nine privacy rights, 00:08:31.67\00:08:36.31 which seems to be at stake here. 00:08:36.34\00:08:40.22 The Left doesn't want to seem 00:08:40.25\00:08:41.85 to look at privacy rights at all. 00:08:41.88\00:08:43.99 In fact, we seem to be going down the slippery slope 00:08:44.02\00:08:46.45 where anybody who claims at a moment's notice 00:08:46.49\00:08:49.49 that somehow even though they're a guy, 00:08:49.52\00:08:54.80 they declare them self a woman to go into women's bathroom 00:08:54.83\00:08:58.93 to shower with women in high school, 00:08:58.97\00:09:02.40 with girls in high school is predatory. 00:09:02.44\00:09:06.91 And that's really unconscionable 00:09:06.94\00:09:11.01 and that seems to be the slippery slope 00:09:11.05\00:09:12.68 we're going down. 00:09:12.71\00:09:14.05 But it is an easy solution to it. 00:09:14.08\00:09:15.42 I've listened to all of this. 00:09:15.45\00:09:16.79 And you could easily set up a protocol with someone 00:09:16.82\00:09:18.79 who is in a sex change process either surgically 00:09:18.82\00:09:23.49 or psychologically, they go before a judge, 00:09:23.53\00:09:27.00 there's a determination, 00:09:27.03\00:09:28.36 and they have a authorization where they present that. 00:09:28.40\00:09:33.40 But the way it's being put out, it's just today I feel female, 00:09:33.44\00:09:38.17 I go in there because I want to go into the women's toilet. 00:09:38.21\00:09:40.41 Well, I'm not sure and generally speaking 00:09:40.44\00:09:43.24 much of that's going on, 00:09:43.28\00:09:44.61 but you only need one or two cases 00:09:44.65\00:09:46.15 of predatory voyeurism 00:09:46.18\00:09:48.52 and all the rest and we've got trouble. 00:09:48.55\00:09:50.09 And then some say, because there are those on the right 00:09:50.12\00:09:54.12 who say, "Okay, we'll go so far with you. 00:09:54.16\00:09:56.69 We'll say okay go ahead and build a separate bathroom 00:09:56.73\00:10:00.00 in each institution, in each high school, 00:10:00.03\00:10:01.96 any institution, even religious schools. 00:10:02.00\00:10:05.20 Build a separate bathroom for transgender people 00:10:05.23\00:10:08.07 and then they say, "Well, then that's the same as separate 00:10:08.10\00:10:10.31 but equal, going back to segregation, 00:10:10.34\00:10:13.48 the Civil Rights movement, so on. 00:10:13.51\00:10:15.71 And it's not the same thing. 00:10:15.74\00:10:17.81 You're dealing with something that says, 00:10:17.85\00:10:20.15 "Hey, we're trying to meet halfway, okay. 00:10:20.18\00:10:23.25 We've clearly got a situation 00:10:23.28\00:10:24.99 whereby it's predatory for a man 00:10:25.02\00:10:28.12 to claim a woman suddenly," and to, you know, 00:10:28.16\00:10:31.19 women are going to feel very uncomfortable about that. 00:10:31.23\00:10:34.30 And that that's problematic and women are subject to abuse 00:10:34.33\00:10:38.77 and women are usually 00:10:38.80\00:10:40.14 often the victims of a situation like this. 00:10:40.17\00:10:42.14 Well, of course this-- 00:10:42.17\00:10:43.61 what's happened here is 00:10:43.64\00:10:44.97 there is a social change underway. 00:10:45.01\00:10:47.84 Not all for the best, 00:10:47.88\00:10:49.48 but they're running ahead of it. 00:10:49.51\00:10:50.85 So of course, 00:10:50.88\00:10:52.21 the community kind of feel very uncomfortable and threatened. 00:10:52.25\00:10:55.32 And what's interesting is this movement-- 00:10:55.35\00:10:56.69 Mind you, I'll throw a real wild card in here. 00:10:56.72\00:10:58.95 No, I need to go and check on this. 00:10:58.99\00:11:00.99 But I know that the occurrence of asexuality 00:11:01.02\00:11:07.56 or, you know, Ephrata, Dezmen and so on. 00:11:07.60\00:11:12.17 You know, there's always been that, 00:11:12.20\00:11:13.67 there's a constant of that through history. 00:11:13.70\00:11:15.80 Right. There is no limit to that. 00:11:15.84\00:11:17.21 But by the sheer numbers of people 00:11:17.24\00:11:18.97 claiming to be either it's trendy to say you 00:11:19.01\00:11:23.58 without any cause 00:11:23.61\00:11:24.95 or we are witnessing a sea change 00:11:24.98\00:11:27.78 in the number of people 00:11:27.82\00:11:29.78 who have that physical characteristics, 00:11:29.82\00:11:31.29 which maybe, it's the diet we're on, 00:11:31.32\00:11:34.69 maybe it's the hormones in meats 00:11:34.72\00:11:37.59 and other foods, it could be. 00:11:37.63\00:11:39.13 I'm surprised nobody's discussed this yet. 00:11:39.16\00:11:42.30 And some of the wacko Right Wing websites, 00:11:42.33\00:11:46.20 they claim that this is part of a concerted program 00:11:46.23\00:11:49.17 to blend this physically, and the naturist says, 00:11:49.20\00:11:52.74 repressive population. 00:11:52.77\00:11:54.11 That's craziness, perhaps, 00:11:54.54\00:11:56.38 but if this is a real phenomenon, 00:11:56.41\00:11:59.85 you have to ask why, 00:11:59.88\00:12:01.22 because it's way out of the norms of societies 00:12:01.25\00:12:03.69 to expect the number. 00:12:03.72\00:12:06.09 When it comes to nominating individuals 00:12:06.12\00:12:10.59 to the Supreme Court, judges to the Supreme Court, 00:12:10.63\00:12:12.69 it is a huge factor in presidential elections. 00:12:12.73\00:12:17.33 When it comes to voting, we should remember this. 00:12:17.37\00:12:20.14 And we should remember 00:12:20.17\00:12:21.50 that presidents have a huge impact 00:12:21.54\00:12:23.87 on who Supreme Court justices are. 00:12:23.91\00:12:26.94 My Bible speaks of the times that we're living through now. 00:12:26.98\00:12:31.61 And one thing that it says about justice 00:12:31.65\00:12:35.32 is that at these end times, the justices, 00:12:35.35\00:12:38.35 or the judges pervert justice. 00:12:38.39\00:12:41.86 Many people would agree with that 00:12:41.89\00:12:43.46 in regard to the Supreme Court, but for different reasons. 00:12:43.49\00:12:46.96 And many, if not most of them political, 00:12:47.00\00:12:49.63 but there is no question 00:12:49.66\00:12:51.50 that is we come to a more turbulent time. 00:12:51.53\00:12:55.07 The very real role of the judiciary, 00:12:55.10\00:12:58.47 one of three balancing aspects of the American Constitution 00:12:58.51\00:13:03.14 and system of government becomes more crucial. 00:13:03.18\00:13:07.85 As I do this program, 00:13:07.88\00:13:11.25 a gap is in the Supreme Court and Scalia, 00:13:11.29\00:13:14.89 absent through sudden death is causing a great disruption. 00:13:14.92\00:13:20.46 And the question is 00:13:20.50\00:13:21.83 will we load the court with another partisan 00:13:21.86\00:13:25.83 or will we allow the system to work and put someone in 00:13:25.87\00:13:30.57 who is a justice who will not pervert justice, 00:13:30.61\00:13:34.18 who will maintain their public trust. 00:13:34.21\00:13:37.35 This is the huge question facing the United States today, 00:13:37.38\00:13:40.72 and particularly when religion is bubbling along. 00:13:40.75\00:13:44.49 So patently, in all these current affairs, 00:13:44.52\00:13:47.59 it's more crucial than ever before. 00:13:47.62\00:13:51.33 For Liberty Insider, this is Lincoln Steed. 00:13:51.36\00:13:54.30