Participants: Lincoln Steed (Host), Wintley Phipps
Series Code: LI
Program Code: LI000265B
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00:03 Welcome back to the Liberty Insider.
00:05 This is a Lincoln Steed again Liberty editor. 00:08 And my guest Wintley Phipps. Yes. 00:11 Good little pose, because I have been thinking 00:12 of something else. Right, right. 00:13 But you're singing has defined these programs. Yes. 00:18 And in many ways it's been the entering wedge 00:20 for the experiences we'll have. 00:22 I want to talk in the second half 00:23 more about global experiences 00:25 and the contacts you have made but. 00:26 Yes, that's right. So we don't get cut short. 00:30 Please share another song with us. 00:32 Oh, sure absolutely and this is song is really 00:36 talks about the truest freedom that we could ever have 00:39 and that is "A relationship with God." 00:41 So listen to that. Okay. 01:00 Amazing love how can it be 01:06 You broke the chains and set me free 01:13 You filled my life with joy untold 01:20 You like my spirit, you feed my soul 01:27 Now I want to let the whole world know 01:34 Of all you've done for me 01:40 I want to praise Your name 01:51 Amazing love How can it be 01:58 You sent your Son to die for me 02:04 He took the blame carrying my shame 02:12 All the way to Cavalry 02:19 When I thought I was forever lost 02:26 You caught my falling soul 02:32 I want to love you more 02:45 Amazing love 02:52 Amazing love 02:59 Amazing, amazing love 03:10 Amazing love how can it be 03:17 You would give your life for me 03:23 You bring such comfort to my soul 03:31 You raise me up and make me hold 03:38 Now I want to let the whole world know 03:45 Of all You've done for me 03:52 I don't think I can ever, 03:59 ever love you more 04:05 Amazing love 04:11 Amazing love 04:20 Amazing love how can it be 04:27 Now I live eternally 04:32 I once was lost but now I'm found 04:40 I was blind but now I see 04:47 And now I'm forever Yours 04:54 Soon I will see Your face 05:00 And I will love You more 05:11 Amazing love 05:18 Amazing love 05:25 Amazing love 05:34 Amazing love 05:45 Wow. Amazing love. 05:48 Thank you for sharing that it's very good. Amen. 05:50 And we're-- you know you have the ability 05:53 through song but all of this I think need to remind us also 05:56 and talk about religious liberty. 05:58 We're spreading that amazing love around the world. 06:00 Absolutely. A world that has not much love. 06:03 It's right and it is His love, 06:06 His amazing love that is made liberty possible. 06:10 Right absolutely. 06:12 Well, not for the fact that He loved us, 06:15 He would not have created us in His image and created us free. 06:20 As free moral agents and when we lost that freedom 06:24 it was His amazing love that came 06:27 and bought that freedom back. 06:28 You took it right back that was very appreciate 06:31 that when I preach about religious liberty 06:34 I tried to include that 06:35 but I nearly always start with Jesus in Nazareth 06:37 at the beginning of His ministry. 06:39 Proclaiming that message of liberation-- 06:41 Yes. From sin-- Yeah, absolutely. 06:43 Because that's was the man was enslaved to sin. Yes. 06:46 But you're right it goes back even further to the creation 06:49 and even the planning of the creation of man. 06:51 It was done in love. Yes. 06:53 For us. Absolutely, yeah. 06:55 And that is incomprehensive 06:56 because the Bible says you know, 06:58 "What is man that they are mindful of him." 07:00 Absolutely. But yet yes because we were His special creation. 07:03 Absolutely. 07:05 Again back to some of the countries 07:07 you have been to what about Australia? 07:09 Yeah, yes, yeah, your own-- 07:11 I mean it's not a country known for religious persecution 07:14 but what's you take there. 07:16 Well, you know Australia is very 07:18 one of my favorite places to go. 07:19 I think I've been Australia over 10 times you know 07:23 from Perth to Hamilton Island. 07:25 And I think that Australia went through a period 07:30 where the people of faith had to come to grips 07:34 with the fact that their love for God 07:40 near to be manifest in a more humane way in dealing 07:46 with the indigenous population there in Australia. 07:49 That's true. 07:50 And I think at the end of the day 07:55 the faith of the people is what won the day 07:59 or I should say that the kind of relationship 08:03 with Christ that brings justice. 08:07 And that brings harmony and brings healing 08:12 and so for my take of it is Australia 08:16 went through some of those kinds of periods 08:19 that Dr. Stott talked about where people 08:24 used their faith in ways that were not humane. 08:28 But it is now in a place where-- 08:31 Yeah, you and I where talking little bit that off camera 08:33 and I don't think Australia you know was up there 08:38 with some of the worst 08:39 but as said like most colonial exercises-- 08:42 the convicts were of course mistreated as well. 08:44 Yeah. 08:46 The attitude of the colonizers was 08:48 incredibly dismissive and cruel. 08:49 And they were Christians. 08:50 And genocide, yes, towards the indigenous people. 08:54 Yeah. 08:55 And you know that was the very early days 08:58 I think that drifted away from most people's memory. 09:00 The later, the last problem that which is being 09:03 much documented of like was this relocation of the children 09:07 thinking that the government knew better. 09:10 And I think Australia is had to come to grips with that. 09:12 There is a sense of guilt there is no question. Yes. 09:15 And in fact I seem to remember 09:17 the Australian prime minister apologizing-- 09:18 Well, absolutely. Recently for that. 09:20 And that's not a bad thing. 09:21 And some of you haven't seen hear by the way. 09:23 Well, I was going to say I don't like-- 09:24 I like America I've lived here a long time 09:26 but it troubles me when I hear them saying 09:27 that no president should ever apologize for this case. 09:29 Yes, yeah. 09:31 That's shows humility and real politic 09:34 for even a president to apologize on occasions. 09:37 Absolutely. 09:38 Well, you had a great career and it's not over yet. Yes. 09:42 But I not envy but I think anybody could wish 09:46 to have the experiences you have had. 09:48 Well they've been ranged. That's been powerful. 09:50 They've been rich, rich experience. 09:51 And I hope it continues a long term. 09:54 Absolutely and I praise God for the opportunity 09:57 and God bless you. 09:58 Its been great being with you today. 10:00 So many of the science fiction confabulations 10:04 that you'll see on movies nowadays 10:06 have all of the world's leaders sometimes they go further 10:09 all of the galactic leaders gathered together 10:12 to address some overwhelming problem. 10:16 It seems science fiction but in reality 10:18 that's sort of how it is. 10:19 The United Nations such as it is meets quite often 10:23 to address major world problems 10:26 and so often most problems are related to religion. 10:29 At the very beginning at the United Nations 10:31 the formation of the nation of Israel 10:34 it's off with religious heaviness associated 10:38 was one of the first things. 10:40 Ahmedijan of Iran spoke of very particular religious issues. 10:45 But its people like Wintley Phipps 10:46 and others who are leading out for freedom, 10:49 intolerance and religious accommodation. 10:52 Those people as they travel the world on jet 10:55 or on other conveyances are able to, what? 10:59 "Sing their way into the hearts 11:02 and the minds of those directing world affairs." 11:04 We need to be emissaries globally or locally 11:08 wherever we are for freedom principles 11:11 for the principles that under guard freedom of religion 11:16 and the integrity of the individual conscience. 11:20 For Liberty Insider this is Lincoln Steed. |
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