Welcome back to
the Liberty Insider.
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This is a Lincoln
Steed again Liberty editor.
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And my guest
Wintley Phipps. Yes.
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Good little pose,
because I have been thinking
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of something else. Right, right.
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But you're singing has
defined these programs. Yes.
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And in many ways it's
been the entering wedge
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for the experiences we'll have.
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I want to talk
in the second half
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more about global experiences
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and the contacts
you have made but.
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Yes, that's right. So
we don't get cut short.
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Please share
another song with us.
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Oh, sure absolutely
and this is song is really
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talks about the truest
freedom that we could ever have
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and that is "A
relationship with God."
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So listen to that. Okay.
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Amazing love how can it be
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You broke the
chains and set me free
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You filled my
life with joy untold
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You like my
spirit, you feed my soul
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Now I want to let
the whole world know
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Of all you've done for me
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I want to praise Your name
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Amazing love How can it be
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You sent your Son to die for me
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He took the
blame carrying my shame
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All the way to Cavalry
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When I thought
I was forever lost
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You caught my falling soul
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I want to love you more
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Amazing love
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Amazing love
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Amazing, amazing love
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Amazing love how can it be
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You would give your life for me
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You bring such
comfort to my soul
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You raise me up and make me hold
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Now I want to let
the whole world know
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Of all You've done for me
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I don't think I can ever,
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ever love you more
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Amazing love
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Amazing love
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Amazing love how can it be
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Now I live eternally
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I once was lost
but now I'm found
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I was blind but now I see
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And now I'm forever Yours
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Soon I will see Your face
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And I will love You more
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Amazing love
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Amazing love
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Amazing love
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Amazing love
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Wow. Amazing love.
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Thank you for sharing
that it's very good. Amen.
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And we're-- you
know you have the ability
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through song but all of this
I think need to remind us also
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and talk about
religious liberty.
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We're spreading that
amazing love around the world.
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Absolutely. A world
that has not much love.
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It's right and it is His love,
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His amazing love that
is made liberty possible.
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Right absolutely.
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Well, not for the
fact that He loved us,
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He would not have created us in
His image and created us free.
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As free moral agents and
when we lost that freedom
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it was His
amazing love that came
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and bought that freedom back.
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You took it right back
that was very appreciate
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that when I preach
about religious liberty
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I tried to include that
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but I nearly always
start with Jesus in Nazareth
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at the
beginning of His ministry.
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Proclaiming that
message of liberation--
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Yes. From sin--
Yeah, absolutely.
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Because that's was the
man was enslaved to sin. Yes.
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But you're right it goes back
even further to the creation
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and even the planning
of the creation of man.
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It was done in love. Yes.
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For us. Absolutely, yeah.
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And that is incomprehensive
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because the Bible says you know,
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"What is man that
they are mindful of him."
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Absolutely. But yet yes because
we were His special creation.
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Absolutely.
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Again back to
some of the countries
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you have been to
what about Australia?
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Yeah, yes, yeah, your own--
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I mean it's not a country
known for religious persecution
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but what's you take there.
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Well, you know Australia is very
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one of my favorite places to go.
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I think I've been
Australia over 10 times you know
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from Perth to Hamilton Island.
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And I think that
Australia went through a period
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where the people of
faith had to come to grips
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with the fact
that their love for God
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near to be manifest in a
more humane way in dealing
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with the indigenous
population there in Australia.
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That's true.
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And I think at
the end of the day
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the faith of the
people is what won the day
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or I should say that
the kind of relationship
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with Christ that brings justice.
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And that brings
harmony and brings healing
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and so for my
take of it is Australia
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went through some of
those kinds of periods
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that Dr. Stott
talked about where people
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used their faith in
ways that were not humane.
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But it is now in a place where--
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Yeah, you and I where talking
little bit that off camera
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and I don't think
Australia you know was up there
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with some of the worst
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but as said like
most colonial exercises--
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the convicts were of
course mistreated as well.
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Yeah.
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The attitude of
the colonizers was
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incredibly dismissive and cruel.
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And they were Christians.
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And genocide, yes,
towards the indigenous people.
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Yeah.
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And you know that
was the very early days
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I think that drifted away
from most people's memory.
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The later, the last
problem that which is being
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much documented of like was
this relocation of the children
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thinking that the
government knew better.
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And I think Australia is
had to come to grips with that.
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There is a sense of guilt
there is no question. Yes.
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And in fact I seem to remember
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the Australian prime
minister apologizing--
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Well, absolutely.
Recently for that.
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And that's not a bad thing.
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And some of you
haven't seen hear by the way.
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Well, I was going
to say I don't like--
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I like America I've
lived here a long time
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but it troubles me
when I hear them saying
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that no president should
ever apologize for this case.
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Yes, yeah.
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That's shows
humility and real politic
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for even a president
to apologize on occasions.
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Absolutely.
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Well, you had a great career
and it's not over yet. Yes.
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But I not envy but I
think anybody could wish
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to have the
experiences you have had.
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Well they've been
ranged. That's been powerful.
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They've been
rich, rich experience.
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And I hope it
continues a long term.
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Absolutely and I
praise God for the opportunity
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and God bless you.
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Its been great
being with you today.
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So many of the
science fiction confabulations
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that you'll see
on movies nowadays
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have all of the world's leaders
sometimes they go further
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all of the galactic
leaders gathered together
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to address some
overwhelming problem.
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It seems science
fiction but in reality
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that's sort of how it is.
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The United Nations such
as it is meets quite often
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to address major world problems
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and so often most problems
are related to religion.
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At the very
beginning at the United Nations
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the formation of
the nation of Israel
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it's off with
religious heaviness associated
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was one of the first things.
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Ahmedijan of Iran spoke of very
particular religious issues.
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But its people
like Wintley Phipps
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and others who are
leading out for freedom,
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intolerance and
religious accommodation.
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Those people as they
travel the world on jet
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or on other
conveyances are able to, what?
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"Sing their way into the hearts
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and the minds of those
directing world affairs."
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We need to be
emissaries globally or locally
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wherever we are
for freedom principles
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for the principles that
under guard freedom of religion
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and the integrity of
the individual conscience.
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For Liberty Insider
this is Lincoln Steed.
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