Liberty Insider

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Participants: Lincoln Steed (Host), Melissa Reid

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Program Code: LI000192B


00:06 Welcome back to the Liberty Insider.
00:07 Before the break with NARLA director Melissa Reid,
00:11 we were talking about its history, some of the plans
00:16 and what I would like to get into is how can
00:18 we involve the viewers because I am sure out there,
00:22 there's a serious number of people that in fact
00:25 there in the Seventh-day Adventist Church Ellen White,
00:28 the pioneer Ellen White, said something about the youth,
00:31 fitly trained, an army of youth fitly trained.
00:33 Oh yes, yes.
00:35 You can change the world with the few thousand of people
00:38 and we've probably got millions
00:40 one way or another out there. Yeah.
00:42 Well, we had a really fun time just a few months ago
00:45 may be just even a month ago, I mentioned that working as,
00:49 you know, doing a local NARLA chapter.
00:52 Well, there are also regional NARLA chapters.
00:54 There is one in southern United States.
00:56 There is also one out in California, in the pacific
01:00 or that, you know, the Western United States.
01:02 And at our offices they are at in Silver Spring,
01:07 Maryland at the world headquarters
01:08 Seventh-day Adventist Church.
01:09 We had a group of energetic young kids come
01:12 that were working that were sponsored by this--
01:16 Freedom classroom? Yes.
01:18 It was called freedom classroom. So this regional organization
01:22 of NARLA or chapter of NARLA
01:24 sponsored these individuals these young kids.
01:26 I think it was may be 12 or 13 high schoolers
01:29 who have expressed interest in issues of several liberties,
01:33 religious freedom, and it was really
01:36 and we talked about this before, training, you know,
01:39 this next generation of religion liberty leaders.
01:42 That was a very hopeful sign.
01:43 I was encouraged by that. Yeah.
01:45 It's not just in religious liberty and I don't even think
01:47 just in the Seventh-day Adventist church,
01:49 too often things of a faith nature
01:52 not just devotional things, but church programs
01:55 other than sort of party or skiing
01:59 and youth programs. Right.
02:01 You see older people doing these things
02:03 and not so often the young people really on fire
02:06 to make a difference on faith, so this was very encouraging.
02:11 I thought it was encouraging as well.
02:13 And I am sorry to interrupt, but it reminded me
02:14 its part of their criteria was that they would done
02:17 well at school and had done an essay or some paper
02:21 on a religious liberty topic. Right.
02:23 And again we weren't expecting them to be experts yet.
02:26 We just wanted to see an interest and then encourage
02:29 their interests from there and out.
02:31 And I really felt like, you know,
02:33 well this is the inaugural program and it was really great.
02:35 They visited not only our offices,
02:38 but they were able to visit with legislators
02:41 in downtown Washington D.C. They were also able to go
02:43 to see a historical perspective as far as
02:47 religious freedom within the United States.
02:48 And so they visited Thomas Jefferson's home
02:51 and I think also James Madison.
02:53 So it just was really encouraging.
02:54 So, you know, you asked the question
02:57 how can our viewers become involved in NARLA
03:00 and religious freedom issues on a local level.
03:03 I think that's a great idea to get your youth involved.
03:07 You know, it can be something as expensive
03:11 and may be expensive as during, you know,
03:15 freedom classroom style program. But it also can be as simple
03:19 and this is probably a great place to start as, you know,
03:22 a lot of churches have a local or afternoon
03:26 A.Y. program at their church. Well, you know,
03:28 start incorporating religious freedom issues there.
03:31 Bringing in some lawyers or government people
03:34 that could talk on this. Right, Exactly.
03:36 Get their minds engaged in these public policy issues.
03:40 You know, lot of them I know that I became,
03:43 you know, as a young person, as a teenager
03:45 became very interested in political--
03:47 not even political issues, but social issues.
03:51 And I think, you know, you see that happen
03:53 you want to encourage, you want to first of all
03:56 explain to them as a Seventh-day Adventist Christians,
04:00 you know, your churches long term history
04:02 with religious liberty and then encourage development in that.
04:06 And I know when young people goes
04:08 see some of the legislatives they bend over backwards
04:12 and they're just captivated to talk to these young people.
04:15 Any legislature likes to talk to constituents.
04:18 But still when these young people there
04:19 this is they are like the prize. Yes, yes.
04:22 And in the past I have noticed that.
04:25 So if your church or your civic group
04:29 can organize a group of young people for religious liberty
04:32 and then you take them along to see the mayor inside,
04:34 you gonna have an open door. Oh, absolutely.
04:36 I am certain of that. Absolutely.
04:39 Its might be little hard, you know, leg work
04:41 to actually organize it. But it's not going to be
04:43 a difficult door to open. Right, right.
04:45 And then it seems natural, you know, if you're doing that,
04:48 you know, on a high school or middle school level
04:51 there to local church. Then when the kids
04:54 go on to college, well then they may actually initiate
04:57 and we'd love to see this, you know, NARLA chapters
05:01 there on campus, there at Adventist Universities.
05:03 You know, you see the young republicans
05:05 or the young democrats or whoever.
05:07 Well, wouldn't it be great to have, you know,
05:08 a group of religious freedom advocates
05:10 organizing there on campus? And it's very important I think
05:13 because you mentioned that they went to some of these group,
05:16 doesn't know so that came the other day.
05:18 They went to some of the historic spots.
05:22 They went to Madison's home out in Virginia there.
05:27 And they were being told the history
05:28 which is very important on religious liberty.
05:31 And Madison in particular and Jefferson
05:34 on the first amendment, these were pivotal pioneers.
05:38 But they need to get the right facts
05:40 because goodness knows some religionists
05:43 for a variety of self-serving reasons are skewing history.
05:47 And how are these young people going to get the facts
05:50 unless they're taken under the wing
05:52 of an organization like NARLA. Yeah.
05:54 It's interesting that you said I just,
05:55 as we were traveling to come in and be on the show.
06:00 I was listening to a new story about an individual
06:03 who refers to the separation of church
06:06 and state as a myth, David Barton.
06:09 One of his books is being withdrawn.
06:11 That's exactly right. He's written a book.
06:12 He's sort of, well, what do you say?
06:14 He's rewritten history on Thomas Jefferson,
06:16 who we know, you know, and if you as liberty magazine
06:20 readers know because we often feature
06:22 his quotes in our magazine, you know, a long time advocate
06:26 of separation of church and state.
06:27 And so this gentleman-- so you are right,
06:30 going to source and hearing from the source--
06:33 And it comes from different angles.
06:34 Like I couple of days ago bought a beautifully--
06:38 isn't a discount store. So I got a good deal on it,
06:41 but a beautifully packaged Bible, leather cover
06:45 and everything and it's called the Patriots Bible.
06:48 And it had also quotes from Gorge Washington
06:50 and the others and then as well as large print
06:53 I got it because of the preaching.
06:55 But it is just beautifully presented.
06:56 But as I look through it I saw that this might have been
06:59 as well been a David Barton type thing.
07:02 It was of--nothing was factually wrong,
07:05 but it was all tilted to give you the idea
07:07 that we basically, as we were in church, you know,
07:11 and this is a religious community. Yes.
07:14 I mean we want to advance religion,
07:16 but religion misrepresented actually leads
07:19 to false religion. And so we need to clarify.
07:23 And I think this is a huge advantage of NARLA,
07:25 which is not just for young people
07:27 but NARLA's special role I think can be
07:29 to nurture young people to be informed and to be active.
07:33 Absolutely, absolutely.
07:35 You talked about membership before
07:36 and we start our membership fees very low.
07:39 They are really nominal and in fact we also have
07:42 a student membership fee, which is you know, again--
07:45 And the membership includes liberty magazine.
07:47 That's exactly right. By design from the cover.
07:49 But, of course, because again it's one component
07:52 of a religious liberty ministry want to make sure, you know,
07:55 as you said we really want to provide resources for people
07:58 and liberty magazine is that really,
08:00 the preeminent resource as far as
08:03 religious liberty issues go. So I really, yeah,
08:06 I do encourage viewers to visit our website.
08:09 religiousliberty.info and really take a look,
08:12 see how you can become involved,
08:14 see what others are doing. We try to focus
08:17 just a few back in January when we had a religious
08:20 liberty Sabbath at my local church.
08:22 We had a state congressman who represented--
08:26 I live in Colombia, Maryland, represented that area,
08:29 just invited her and one of our members had
08:31 a relationship with her. She came and spoke and,
08:36 you know, she was able to see that our faith group,
08:39 you know, Seventh-day Adventists
08:41 are passionate about religious freedom.
08:42 We were able to share that with her
08:44 and so she knows that her constituents
08:46 there in the community are religious freedom advocates,
08:49 or you know, this is an issue that's important to them.
08:52 And so we posted that on the NARLA website.
08:54 It's just to give people an idea of, you know,
08:56 I am interested, I am excited
08:58 about this ministry how can I become involved.
08:59 This education works two ways. The legislative was learning
09:03 about what people do. Exactly, absolutely.
09:05 Not just for the people that attended the meeting.
09:09 Absolutely, no I feel like and--you know,
09:11 we've talked before about the annual religious
09:13 liberty dinner that we do on Capital Hill.
09:14 Sure. It functions that way.
09:16 It functions that way as well. I mean, you know,
09:18 we want to influence individuals.
09:20 Well didn't--didn't we hear from legislative
09:23 as on the other day that Hillary Clinton
09:25 even referred to speaking at the dinner.
09:27 Yes. Oh, that was incredible so for--.
09:30 And I do remember and I don't think
09:32 it's improper to say this, but when she was--
09:35 after she spoke I think it was about the same time
09:37 she did a little video promo for liberty magazine. Yes.
09:41 And while she was waiting for the cameras to start,
09:45 she had quite a dialog with one of our representatives
09:48 about the Seventh-day Sabbath.
09:50 She says, you know, the fourth commandment.
09:52 I thought that was Sunday. You know, I wouldn't say
09:56 that she was convinced of anything,
09:57 but there is a perfect natural opportunity
09:59 to communicate our theological and religious liberty viewpoint
10:04 to someone in a friendly atmosphere.
10:05 Right, right and the thing is, you know, as a private citizen
10:08 and even you know, if we are working
10:11 in a professional environment sometimes it's--
10:13 it can be intimidating to have those conversations.
10:15 But again if you are prepared and you've had that, you know,
10:22 you're familiar with the topic, you're passionate
10:24 about the topic. Then and this is where
10:26 I feel NARLA's role coming in again.
10:28 You know, we have those training sessions to--
10:30 you know, if you are going be doing a lobbying day,
10:33 you know, whether it's on the state level
10:35 or on the local level, we train individuals
10:38 so that they can feel very comfortable and you know--
10:41 And everybody that's being part of that has enjoyed it.
10:44 It sounds intimidating, but in practice it's a fun time
10:48 to meet all by some social level and just inform somebody
10:52 who is sitting there, yes tell us about what you believe in.
10:56 Yes, yes. And many times and again,
10:58 you know, we are doing this cross pollination here,
11:01 but many times we've gone to those lobbying visits
11:03 and seen liberty magazine on the coffee table.
11:05 Yes. It's always very nice isn't it?
11:07 It's great. No, it's the introduction of,
11:10 you know, of our message into--you know,
11:13 starting that conversation. So anyway I really
11:16 encourage you. If you are interested
11:18 in religious liberty issues to become, you know,
11:20 to check out the NARLA website, which is religiousliberty.info
11:24 see how you can become involved and even just, you know,
11:28 become aware of what's going on in your local community,
11:30 checkout that in Google map and see if there is a dot
11:33 next to your town.
11:36 As I record this, the television screens
11:39 across the world are filled with images of violence
11:43 and rebellion and civil war in Syria.
11:46 I was very moved on one occasion to see
11:49 a scene of a young woman probably in her early 20s
11:53 lying critically ill. In fact she died
11:57 a little later of her injuries and she looked at the camera
12:00 and she says, "we will keep the struggle going,
12:03 we will not give up. " It takes a lot
12:06 when your life is actually ebbing away to continue
12:10 the commitment to a cause like that.
12:13 I know that as Christians standing for religious liberty
12:16 we too are called to do whatever it takes.
12:19 I read a book once about Christian witness
12:22 where the protagonist said that as a young man
12:24 he heard the minister saying Christ is worth your all,
12:29 if He is worth anything at all.
12:31 When we deal with religious liberty,
12:32 when we're talking about NARLA membership,
12:35 when we're talking about becoming an activist,
12:37 that same dynamic must apply.
12:40 If it's important it demands out everything.
12:44 It demands absolute total commitment.
12:50 For Liberty Insider this is Lincoln Steed.


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