Liberty Insider

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Participants: Lincoln Steed (Host), Melissa Reid

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00:22 Welcome to the Liberty Insider. This is the Program
00:26 that brings you news, views and discussion on some
00:29 very interesting religious liberty issues
00:32 in The United States and around the world.
00:34 My name is Lincoln Steed, editor of Liberty Magazine.
00:37 And my guest on this program is Melissa Reid,
00:40 associate editor of Liberty Magazine,
00:42 but more pertinent for our discussion.
00:45 You're director of the North American
00:47 Religious Liberty Association.
00:49 Right. NARLA? Yes.
00:51 I know that sounds little bit like...
00:53 was that National Rifle Association?
00:54 And the N.R.A. Nothing to do with that.
00:57 Yes. This is NARLA?
00:59 Right NARLA. And as you said
01:00 it's the North American Religious Liberty Association.
01:03 It's also part of the Seventh-day Adventist Churches
01:05 Religious Liberty Ministry. And basically it's a way
01:10 for church members that are excited
01:11 about religious freedom issues that, you know,
01:14 are already participating in the religious liberty campaign
01:17 and supporting Liberty Magazine through, you know,
01:20 through sponsoring subscriptions.
01:22 It's a way for them to get involved
01:23 in religious freedom on a personal level.
01:27 We want to turn them into activists, right?
01:29 Exactly. Exactly. So we're training them
01:31 into activism for our ministry and so that's really
01:35 the key in the role of NARLA.
01:37 Now I've been around few years longer
01:40 than you on Liberty Magazine.
01:41 When I came, I thought I knew a lot of about Religious Liberty
01:46 and I had lot of opinions and I was in some meetings
01:49 with people who had a lot of opinions,
01:51 a very opinionative group.
01:52 They used to argue and debate a lot
01:54 and took me while to find my feet on that.
01:57 But I remember from the very beginning,
01:59 people kept bringing up NARLA, NARLA. You know,
02:02 we need to start up NARLA. We need to get serious about it,
02:05 and it took me a while to realize
02:07 because there was nothing, but talk then that there
02:09 was a real need for what you just describe to not just
02:14 to get the message out which Liberty does adequately,
02:16 but to utilize the individuals
02:20 who have energies and interests on religious liberty.
02:23 We want to mobilize them to become basically
02:26 an army for religious liberty. Absolutely, Absolutely.
02:28 And so NARLA was reformulated.
02:30 It existed before our times and I don't know
02:33 what they did in yesteryear, but I know you know
02:36 on developing very clearly what we need to do now.
02:40 And I think it's exciting to the idea that these people
02:43 can be honest and they could write letters to the paper
02:46 and they can go and talk to the legislators.
02:50 Well, I should stay longer and finally you get
02:52 to show what we need to do. Yeah, absolutely.
02:54 It really is feeling a need. I know that when I am excited
02:57 about something I want an outlet for it.
02:59 And so what we were doing is providing an outlet
03:01 for individuals that are excited about religious freedom issues.
03:05 I know, you know, there is an individual
03:07 that's living in Oklahoma City area,
03:09 I think you're gonna be speaking in his church.
03:11 He is putting on, you know, an event there.
03:14 But he wants to, you know, he's had a conversation,
03:18 but he is passionate about religious freedom issues.
03:20 He is also passionate about the government,
03:24 and making sure that his rights
03:27 are maintained there in his local community.
03:30 And so he is starting or he is establishing
03:33 a local NARLA chapter there in his community.
03:36 You know, we deal with a lot of national issues
03:39 and international issues as far as the magazine
03:42 and, you know, our organization as well
03:44 in our lobbing efforts there in the Washington D.C. area.
03:48 But individuals, who have that passion
03:51 and commitment to religious freedom
03:53 can do things on a local level
03:55 that we just don't have the resources to do. Yes. yes.
03:57 And most of the resources that you can bring
04:00 to bear with it in our office in Liberty Magazine
04:02 is really just a sort of corralled their intensions,
04:08 bring them together to discuss it,
04:09 and then sort of send them out from a central point.
04:11 But we don't have great resources.
04:13 But we believe that each
04:15 of these people represent resources.
04:16 Absolutely, absolutely. We tried to provide
04:18 them with information. We tried to--
04:20 Liberty Magazine. Exactly. Yeah, exactly.
04:24 We featured Liberty Magazine articles on our website.
04:26 We also featured, you know, we will-- we have one
04:30 of those Google Maps that's on the website,
04:32 which I'll just mention.
04:33 The NARLA website is www.religiousliberty.info.
04:38 Not.com .info, religiousliberty.info.
04:41 And I really would encourage individuals to visit it because
04:44 what we do, we have one of those Google Maps on the website.
04:47 And it has both the look at United States
04:49 and then also in international prospective.
04:51 And every new story that we highlight, you know,
04:56 it gets a little dot on the map.
04:58 And it's really interesting because a lot of times
05:01 and it's surprising to individuals who visit
05:03 the site just how common religious liberty issues
05:09 are both in The United States and internationally.
05:11 And to see them, you know, to visually see
05:13 these little dots in the map is very interesting.
05:15 And then when they actually take a look at the stories
05:17 and see the variety of religious freedom articles,
05:21 you know, or issues. Some of them are unfortunately,
05:25 you know, to our brothers and sisters overseas
05:28 are persecution issues.
05:30 Can I interject here? Yes.
05:31 This is on the topic per say not on NARLA,
05:35 but it's worth mentioning that we are living through
05:38 an era of extreme religious persecution all around
05:41 the world or restrictions.
05:44 It's not always persecution, but severe restrictions
05:46 on religious freedom in the United States even
05:51 in the Western World and certainly in many
05:53 of these third world or non-Christian countries.
05:56 And the irony is that this is happening in the time
05:59 when religious activities never been greater. Yeah.
06:02 It's not religion in retreat, but as in different countries
06:06 a religious identity is search itself,
06:08 it's not very kind to its competitors
06:10 or to the other forms of religion.
06:12 Yeah, it's difficult. It's interesting to see
06:15 that happen and as Christians it's so kind of counterintuitive
06:21 to our own belief system. Right.
06:23 But more reason for people to join NARLA.
06:27 I am sure you would get to it, but this is a good time
06:29 to remind people that NARLA is North America
06:32 and we work with I.R.L.A.
06:34 the International Religious Liberty Association,
06:36 which director across the whole from our offices,
06:42 but he is globally oriented and traveling most of the time.
06:45 But so NARLA is sort of a feeder organization for global concern.
06:50 Right, and where we-- so we focused primarily on,
06:53 you know, issues that are happening
06:54 in The United States and Canada.
06:56 But again as I said before and as you mentioned,
06:59 it really is, we try to be a resource
07:02 for people as far as information, you know,
07:05 we put together a lot of like we make available some
07:07 of our presentations on the website
07:10 we provide them with, you know, information as far
07:12 as new stories and actions whenever
07:15 we have account of events on that.
07:17 So whenever you are traveling and gonna be speaking in areas
07:21 or other religious liberty leaders,
07:22 we let them know because again
07:24 if I'm excited about a particular ministry
07:27 I want to know where I can go and hear more about this.
07:29 So we send them links to particular
07:32 Liberty Magazine articles.
07:34 So it's really just feeding that desire. Yeah, it's working.
07:37 A couple of times people have told me that they had come
07:39 to an event because they had seen the result. Yeah.
07:42 So I am actually not sure when this will air,
07:44 but I want to let viewers know incase it's in advance
07:48 there is actually going to be a national NARLA event
07:51 in Atlanta Georgia in the fall on Sabbath October 20,
07:57 right at the Airport Hilton. So you could
08:00 just fly directly into the-- To the Hilton.
08:04 Hopefully your plane will not fly directly into the Hilton.
08:07 But fly into the airport. You write there.
08:09 It's a one day event as I said it's Sabbath, October 20.
08:13 And it's the Hilton, not the Hilton Garden or another--
08:15 Exactly, yeah. It's the Airport Hilton
08:18 and we've been able to get a nice reduced rate.
08:20 But it's $35 registration fee. Again go to our website
08:25 religiousliberty.info to hear about, to get more information.
08:29 But we have spiritual emphasis by Pastor David Asscherick,
08:33 who I know is a friend to our 3ABN viewing audience.
08:37 And then so we'll have morning and afternoon spiritual emphasis
08:41 by Pastor Asscherick and then we will have
08:44 religious liberty segments, breakout sessions.
08:47 Some seminars. Yes. Some seminars,
08:49 and I'll be involved in that.
08:52 Elder Eddy would be involved in that.
08:54 And who is he? He is also a friend of 3ABN,
08:57 I believe, and more importantly a huge
09:00 proponent of religious freedom. Yeah, Very Good.
09:02 We're excited to have him involved as well.
09:03 But--and he is somewhat connected.
09:05 Yes. Yes, connected to me as well.
09:09 And so and then we have some other individuals- Tim Golden,
09:13 who is a practicing attorney and long time religious liberty,
09:16 again perfect example of being involved in NARLA
09:19 because he is not an employee of Seventh-day Adventist Church.
09:21 He is just someone who is a committed church member,
09:24 who is excited. No, I've heard his presentation.
09:25 I spoke to him. I know what he is doing.
09:28 So anyway, hopefully that this program happens before
09:31 in advance of that and if you live in that area,
09:33 in the Atlanta area, you will be able to come
09:35 and be involved as well. And this should be probably
09:37 400-500 people at least I think.
09:39 I think that there and not so, I am glad you made that point
09:42 because I think it seats a room of about 350
09:44 and so we are really encouraging people.
09:46 You have to register beforehand.
09:48 There's not registration outside and it's first come first serve.
09:52 So really do try to find out,
09:55 you know, as quickly as possible.
09:56 And if you are watching this program
09:58 ahead of time then might be in your interest to register.
10:02 If afterwards you will know that was a great success.
10:05 Well, exactly. And the other thing
10:06 that we're looking into is not making it is video,
10:11 its video and providing that on the NARLA website afterwards
10:15 and letting people that are, you know, in other parts
10:17 of the country or don't have the means or you know, the time.
10:20 So we are going to let them know afterwards we'll make those
10:24 tapes available on the NARLA website as well, afterwards.
10:27 Yeah. Well, all of this means that NARLA is alive now.
10:30 It's not just an ideal and I think I've mentioned it
10:33 on this T.V. program before as we have spoken about NARLA.
10:36 But to me it is a testament that it even exists
10:38 to Adrian Westney, who is religious liberty leader
10:42 in the Washington D.C. area for that whole region.
10:46 But he is stuck with it. Year after year,
10:49 he wanted NARLA to reinvigorate itself and it surely has.
10:54 Yeah, he absolutely was. And really again, you know,
10:57 he had a burden for religious freedom outside
11:00 of his own denomination employment.
11:02 His background was in education and, you know,
11:03 he was a great educator.
11:05 But he really had that personal passion for religious freedom.
11:07 He had a long time radio program.
11:12 Well, I was about to mention that because
11:14 that's my memory of him, in fact last memory.
11:16 He died--I can't figure how many years ago,
11:19 I would say about three years ago.
11:22 But I did a series of radio programs with him one day.
11:27 It turned out, week or two before he died.
11:31 I asked him about his health and he said he was okay.
11:34 But he died very quickly after that.
11:35 But I've got that memory as we sit there across the table
11:39 with the headphones on and he is always, he says,
11:41 now Mr. Editor, you know, never called me Lincoln, Mr. Editor.
11:45 Yes, yes. No, he really was an example to individuals
11:50 to be involved there on that local level.
11:52 And something that, you know, and again he found that outlet
11:55 and hopefully we are able both with the magazine
11:58 and with this organization are able to provide people
12:01 with an outlet, you know, that are interested
12:04 in this issue. And I should give
12:05 my prospective on this I have always believed
12:07 in NARLA and a lot of the early funding to reinvigorate
12:11 NARLA was directly from liberties reserves. Right.
12:14 And now I think it's a natural that you're leading
12:18 that and this is part of the liberty emphasis.
12:21 So we wanted to be, you know,
12:23 as the material, Liberty Magazine.
12:25 It's the people and the activism with NARLA and I think all
12:28 of it can do something more than each element individually.
12:33 Oh, yeah. I mean again, we are working
12:35 for this one main goal in just different areas of doing it.
12:39 Yeah. And internationally we will continue
12:41 to work great closely with I.R.L.A. Yeah.
12:44 And the I.R.L.A. is less a grass effect.
12:48 It's not really a grass root organization
12:50 at least that to the national groups.
12:52 But the I.R.L.A. has some wonderful
12:54 government to government contacts and U.N. and so on,
12:59 and so it provides incredible resources
13:01 and material to the NARLA members. Right.
13:05 The time has gone very quickly.
13:07 But we have a half a program left.
13:09 So after a short break we'll be back
13:11 and we'll be telling you how you can become involve
13:14 with NARLA. Stay with us.


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