Welcome back to
the Liberty Insider.
00:00:02.50\00:00:04.13
Before the break with
author Scott Christiansen,
00:00:04.14\00:00:06.36
we were talking about
his book 'Planet in Distress.
00:00:06.37\00:00:10.39
I keep thinking
about the global decline
00:00:10.40\00:00:12.19
--system decline
which it's really about,
00:00:12.20\00:00:14.07
but it's called
Planet in Distress.
00:00:14.08\00:00:15.67
Yes you do.
00:00:15.68\00:00:16.65
And in the first
half of the program
00:00:16.66\00:00:18.35
I was teasing you out a
bit on not just your book,
00:00:18.36\00:00:21.29
but your own
philosophy which has led you
00:00:21.30\00:00:24.31
to the back
blocks of western Maine.
00:00:24.32\00:00:29.64
Yeah. You know,
00:00:29.86\00:00:31.79
I wouldn't really
call you a survivalist.
00:00:31.80\00:00:33.46
No, no, no. But
still you really,
00:00:33.47\00:00:35.66
you know its a
little different existence,
00:00:35.67\00:00:37.96
the living in one of the suburbs
00:00:37.97\00:00:39.32
of L.A. or New York. Very much.
00:00:39.33\00:00:41.43
And so I put you back
more on self-sufficiency
00:00:41.44\00:00:44.02
and in a position as
anyone that moves out of a city
00:00:44.03\00:00:47.43
you can see the
natural systems at work.
00:00:47.44\00:00:49.62
You're participating
in it. Yes, absolutely.
00:00:49.63\00:00:51.74
But let's revisit
again what you put out so,
00:00:52.43\00:00:56.67
well I think and
consistently in this book.
00:00:56.68\00:00:58.95
The idea that after
sin which was the break
00:00:58.96\00:01:02.81
with Creator's original intent.
00:01:02.82\00:01:04.73
Man through his own
actions and the world
00:01:04.74\00:01:07.77
really through the entropy
that separation introduced.
00:01:07.78\00:01:11.80
As we're now part
of just descending
00:01:11.81\00:01:16.93
cycle of system collapse,
00:01:16.94\00:01:18.33
the food systems,
the man zone systems.
00:01:18.34\00:01:20.96
You know, we're in the middle
of financial collapse now.
00:01:20.97\00:01:24.98
Those things are not improving.
00:01:24.99\00:01:26.45
It's getting
more and more on wheel
00:01:26.46\00:01:28.68
if we mandate to
maintain these systems.
00:01:28.69\00:01:31.03
Well, and are
always interlinked.
00:01:31.04\00:01:32.73
Now, going back to your point
00:01:32.74\00:01:34.74
and Adventists
certainly in Christians
00:01:34.75\00:01:37.77
generally have not
typically connected end time
00:01:37.78\00:01:44.92
events or even the
ongoing decay of moral--.
00:01:44.93\00:01:48.29
With the ecological
sense. With an ecological sense,
00:01:48.30\00:01:50.69
right, right, I mean
its environmentalism,
00:01:50.70\00:01:53.63
you know, what a terrible thing.
00:01:53.64\00:01:55.01
But and I'm not
suggesting of course,
00:01:55.02\00:01:58.21
that everyone go out
and you know, plant a tree.
00:01:58.22\00:02:01.25
Well, that's not a bad
thing. But I'm not suggesting
00:02:01.26\00:02:03.38
that every one all a sudden
dramatically change their life
00:02:03.39\00:02:06.79
in order to benefit the earth.
00:02:06.80\00:02:08.65
That's a good
thing but if we are going
00:02:08.66\00:02:11.74
to dramatically
change our lives.
00:02:11.75\00:02:13.27
Let's
dramatically change our lives
00:02:13.28\00:02:14.82
in the service of Christ.
00:02:14.83\00:02:16.08
The point of the
book is that the earth
00:02:16.09\00:02:19.15
has decayed to such a
state and is now beginning
00:02:19.16\00:02:21.77
to very rapidly decay.
00:02:21.78\00:02:23.07
So we can now see the
fulfillment of prophecy.
00:02:23.08\00:02:25.48
Specifically, Mathew 24
and in within Mathew 24,
00:02:25.49\00:02:28.99
specifically,
verses 6 through 8.
00:02:29.00\00:02:30.92
We can see the
prophecies made by Christ
00:02:30.93\00:02:33.55
Himself begin to come true
00:02:33.56\00:02:34.98
and we can certainly
see the forces built.
00:02:34.99\00:02:36.91
There are some
people may not be familiar
00:02:36.92\00:02:38.68
with those verses, what doe
Christ says specifically in--
00:02:38.69\00:02:41.05
Well, He says, there will
be wars and rumors of wars.
00:02:41.06\00:02:44.47
Nation will rise
against. That sounds familiar.
00:02:44.48\00:02:46.34
That--that
sounds again familiar.
00:02:46.35\00:02:47.90
Nation will rise against nation.
00:02:47.91\00:02:49.38
And in an age of
resource scarcity,
00:02:49.39\00:02:52.21
growing scarcity
nation is already
00:02:52.22\00:02:54.43
positioning themselves
to rise against nation.
00:02:54.44\00:02:57.03
Once you begin
to see the pattern,
00:02:57.04\00:02:58.53
it's easy to see the conflicts.
00:02:58.54\00:02:59.95
Once you see the pattern,
a lot of what make sense.
00:02:59.96\00:03:02.78
Like every one
thinks for example,
00:03:02.79\00:03:05.19
that the war between
Syria and Israel is just
00:03:05.20\00:03:09.09
sort of an ethnic
jealous and ancestral war.
00:03:09.10\00:03:14.56
There is water wars
between Syria and Israel
00:03:14.57\00:03:17.64
that are life or death.
00:03:17.65\00:03:19.02
And so to have
access to the Jordan
00:03:19.03\00:03:20.95
or these
aquifers is almost worth
00:03:20.96\00:03:23.88
up for them to go to war over.
00:03:23.89\00:03:24.92
You know, it's
interesting you say that because
00:03:24.93\00:03:26.98
if you take a look at the
water reservoirs in Israel.
00:03:26.99\00:03:32.38
They're at an all time low.
00:03:32.39\00:03:34.14
The Sea of Galilee
which is the main reservoir
00:03:34.15\00:03:36.89
is what they call
is at the black line.
00:03:36.90\00:03:39.19
They are not able
to-- it has declined
00:03:39.20\00:03:41.48
so far the water
levels have dropped
00:03:41.49\00:03:42.86
so far that they drop
below the inlets to the pumps.
00:03:42.87\00:03:45.31
The equipment doesn't work
00:03:45.32\00:03:46.50
and this is what
the nation relies on.
00:03:46.51\00:03:48.12
Now I've been reading
and following it for longtime
00:03:48.13\00:03:49.87
and that's looming
crisis that in some ways
00:03:49.88\00:03:52.94
even supersedes
this-- this ongoing war
00:03:52.95\00:03:57.31
that you can track
back to biblical times even.
00:03:57.32\00:03:59.45
You know, it's not that new.
00:03:59.46\00:04:00.69
Well, and you know
Israel is on record
00:04:00.70\00:04:02.76
as saying that The War of 1968
00:04:02.77\00:04:05.17
had a tremendous
amount to do with water.
00:04:05.18\00:04:07.65
And they designed the
borders that they expanded it
00:04:07.66\00:04:11.87
in that war in order to
accomplish again in water.
00:04:11.88\00:04:15.07
Going back to
Mathew 24, Christ said,
00:04:15.08\00:04:19.65
that we will see a famine,
that we'll see pestilents,
00:04:19.66\00:04:23.00
that we will see
earthquakes in diverse places.
00:04:23.01\00:04:28.39
All of these
things with the exception
00:04:29.24\00:04:30.77
of earthquake, I've to admit.
00:04:30.78\00:04:32.24
There is an
explanation for that,
00:04:34.02\00:04:35.17
but all of these other
things that Christ said.
00:04:35.18\00:04:37.53
We can see coming as a result
00:04:37.54\00:04:40.44
of the destabilization
of the earth systems.
00:04:40.45\00:04:43.49
The very things that God created
00:04:43.50\00:04:45.04
to sustain life on the planet.
00:04:45.05\00:04:46.32
Why would you make an
exception for earthquakes?
00:04:46.33\00:04:48.28
Well, it's more difficult
00:04:48.29\00:04:50.44
the science is not
there to stand on right now.
00:04:51.38\00:04:54.72
It hasn't been
greatly researched.
00:04:54.73\00:04:55.93
We know that the very founding--
00:04:55.94\00:04:57.92
Circumstantial evidence--
00:04:57.93\00:04:58.90
Circumstantial
evidence, absolutely.
00:04:58.91\00:04:59.89
I look at this and I
say, Satan cannot maintain
00:05:00.76\00:05:03.66
in perfect balance
or even in any balance
00:05:03.67\00:05:06.50
at all what God created.
00:05:06.51\00:05:07.91
And the very
foundations of earth are shaken.
00:05:07.92\00:05:10.08
You know, its interesting
sin causing destabilization
00:05:11.11\00:05:16.28
throughout the planet
causes us to look at everything
00:05:16.29\00:05:20.36
including biblical
prophecy differently.
00:05:20.37\00:05:22.88
Absolutely, but let's
look at the earthquake.
00:05:22.89\00:05:25.35
You know, if you
draw the aquifers down,
00:05:25.36\00:05:27.20
that changes the very
make up of the land masses self
00:05:27.21\00:05:31.18
it starts stretching
cracking and all the rest.
00:05:31.19\00:05:33.18
Yeah. Man has exploited,
have lost track of it.
00:05:33.19\00:05:39.20
But its tens of thousands
00:05:39.21\00:05:40.69
of nuclear bombs underground.
00:05:40.70\00:05:42.50
And they're
fracking, they're fracking.
00:05:42.51\00:05:44.20
That's where I'm getting to--
the first of all the depletion
00:05:44.21\00:05:47.59
of underground
reservoirs of oil.
00:05:47.60\00:05:49.76
That's like the
lubricant between
00:05:49.77\00:05:52.53
plates and alloys often.
00:05:52.54\00:05:53.90
And then even adding
an insult to that injury,
00:05:53.91\00:05:56.75
now fracking inserting
under pressure what its,
00:05:56.76\00:06:00.56
its water
sometimes, but under pressure
00:06:00.57\00:06:02.70
a fluid to force out
gas and sometimes gasoline
00:06:02.71\00:06:06.78
just messing with the
very structure of the earth.
00:06:06.79\00:06:09.49
Yes, there's other things
like tectonic plate movement
00:06:11.10\00:06:13.53
that is
independent of what we can do.
00:06:13.54\00:06:15.53
But I think we've
upset, we've upset the balance
00:06:15.54\00:06:18.38
to some degree by
our very own actions
00:06:18.39\00:06:20.61
that are now on
the scale that mani
00:06:20.62\00:06:23.18
and prehistory
couldn't have imagined.
00:06:23.19\00:06:24.66
This is the emerging
science and it's not settled,
00:06:24.67\00:06:27.55
so I don't quote it.
00:06:27.56\00:06:28.83
My book is extensively
referenced and footnoted,
00:06:28.84\00:06:31.93
because it has
to do with science.
00:06:31.94\00:06:34.83
And I didn't want
to put out something
00:06:34.84\00:06:37.07
that I couldn't stand on.
00:06:37.08\00:06:38.50
But what you're talking
about is the emerging science.
00:06:39.46\00:06:41.54
And interestingly
enough all over the world,
00:06:41.58\00:06:43.90
we've drawn down
aquifers tremendously
00:06:43.91\00:06:46.19
and at an unsustainable rate.
00:06:46.20\00:06:47.46
You take a look at Midwest
00:06:47.47\00:06:49.51
and something called
the Ogallala Aquifer.
00:06:50.97\00:06:53.66
I know you read a bit on this.
00:06:53.67\00:06:54.74
Yeah, the Ogallala
Aquifer oh, it's a big deal.
00:06:54.75\00:06:56.44
Yes. The Ogallala
Aquifer underlies eight states
00:06:56.45\00:06:59.61
and provides all the
water needed for use in homes,
00:06:59.62\00:07:04.62
for use in industry and most
significantly for use in crops.
00:07:04.63\00:07:08.47
And so there's tremendous
amount of grains produced
00:07:08.48\00:07:11.10
in the U.S. that is
reliant on the Ogallala Aquifer.
00:07:11.11\00:07:14.44
Well this Ogallala Aquifer,
it's been extensively studied.
00:07:14.65\00:07:19.27
It runs out of water in 25 years
00:07:19.28\00:07:22.54
and that's a huge
reduction in food.
00:07:23.63\00:07:26.04
And in fact you know,
the edges are shrinking now,
00:07:26.88\00:07:28.89
where it's already going on.
00:07:28.90\00:07:30.04
But it's not isolated, this
is happening allover the world.
00:07:30.05\00:07:33.17
Now, the aquifers going
down, that's a necessary
00:07:33.18\00:07:37.91
part of food production in
the breadbasket of the U.S.
00:07:37.92\00:07:43.05
And in India and in China.
00:07:43.06\00:07:44.82
Yeah, you were
talking about the U.S.
00:07:44.83\00:07:46.00
with the Ogallala Aquifer.
00:07:46.01\00:07:48.58
But then you
throw in the other thing
00:07:48.59\00:07:50.37
that we spoke
about in another program,
00:07:50.38\00:07:52.50
the reliance on
fossil fuels for fertilizer.
00:07:52.51\00:07:57.27
Absolutely. Most
people don't realize that
00:07:57.28\00:07:59.04
within now largely
because the first phase ran out.
00:07:59.05\00:08:02.96
The super phosphates, the Guano
00:08:03.78\00:08:06.08
and all the rest of
islands like Nauru, it's gone.
00:08:06.19\00:08:08.43
It's right. And
they were deposits
00:08:08.44\00:08:12.25
that were 100 of
feet thick of both
00:08:12.26\00:08:14.01
droppings over the millennia.
00:08:14.10\00:08:15.66
That's gone in
natural resources.
00:08:16.90\00:08:18.61
And Australia was
involved with the strangest sort
00:08:18.62\00:08:22.07
of the trade
around 9/11 refugees
00:08:22.08\00:08:26.24
from little bit after 9/11.
00:08:26.25\00:08:28.52
Refugees from Iraq tried there
make their way to Australia.
00:08:28.53\00:08:32.43
And Australia
intercepted in the Christmas
00:08:32.44\00:08:34.74
Island imprisoned them.
00:08:34.75\00:08:36.87
Some of them
sewed there mouth shut
00:08:36.88\00:08:39.90
in reaction which
is a strange thing.
00:08:39.91\00:08:43.62
So, in the end rather
than sending them to Australia,
00:08:43.63\00:08:46.57
Australia sold them to Nauru
$16,000 a head as I remember.
00:08:46.58\00:08:51.67
Wow. That was the deal and Nauru
00:08:51.68\00:08:53.18
took them and now
they're citizens of Nauru,
00:08:53.21\00:08:54.95
that's their only
income. They did island a favor.
00:08:54.96\00:08:58.09
Wow. But that's a strange story
00:08:58.10\00:09:01.19
to underscore that
there's an incredible depletion
00:09:01.20\00:09:03.58
of what was a global
resource there of Guano.
00:09:03.59\00:09:06.91
Now we're on to gasoline
by products for fertilizer
00:09:06.92\00:09:11.32
and we know that even
though it may or may not run out
00:09:11.33\00:09:15.08
in the next few
decades depending on how you,
00:09:15.09\00:09:17.09
you know, whether you get 20
00:09:17.10\00:09:19.22
or 40 miles per
gallon on your cab,
00:09:19.23\00:09:20.65
but it certainly
going to make the stress
00:09:20.66\00:09:22.17
on the use of
it for agriculture.
00:09:22.18\00:09:24.02
So something is in the offering.
00:09:24.03\00:09:26.62
Most people don't
realize that we've now
00:09:26.63\00:09:29.33
a global industrial
food production system.
00:09:29.34\00:09:32.50
There is very little
backyard farming anymore.
00:09:32.51\00:09:36.00
And our global food production
system is completely reliant
00:09:36.01\00:09:39.62
upon petroleum in
the form of fertilizers
00:09:39.63\00:09:42.14
and in the form of pesticides
00:09:42.15\00:09:44.03
and also in the form of
power for the machinery.
00:09:44.04\00:09:46.13
Absolutely, because its--.
00:09:46.14\00:09:47.20
Absolutely
reliant. Huge machines.
00:09:47.21\00:09:48.68