Participants: Lincoln Steed (Host), Greg Hamilton
Series Code: LI
Program Code: LI000157
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00:22 Welcome to the "Liberty Insider."
00:24 This is the program that brings you discussion, 00:26 news, views and up-to-date information 00:29 on religious liberty, developments around the world. 00:32 My name is Lincoln Steed, Editor of Liberty Magazine 00:35 and my guest on the program is Greg Hamilton. 00:38 Welcome, Greg. Thank you. 00:42 We could talk about a lot of things 00:44 and I am hesitating because 00:45 I need to present this correctly. 00:47 A Seventh-day Adventist, Protestant Christians, 00:50 you know, we're part of a great heritage. 00:53 As individuals promoting religious freedom, 00:56 we have to respect all belief systems and, 00:59 you know, we believe that, you know, 01:02 we've interpreted the Bible correctly for our times. 01:05 We don't believe that Buddhism and so on 01:07 are valid but we have absolutely, 01:10 we will defend to-- I think you are the same as me. 01:13 I have to defend to my death, 01:15 the right of someone to believe anything 01:18 freely to practice that. 01:21 But when we are talking about religious freedom, 01:22 when we talk about history, prophecy, global developments, 01:26 we can't ignore some of the major players and Rome, 01:31 the Pope of Rome and the Roman Catholic Church 01:33 has a long history, it goes back before the reformation, 01:36 it's made certain claims, 01:38 it's carried on persecutions at certain times, 01:41 it is not a persecuting power now. 01:43 But when we look at prophecy, 01:45 we see intimations that again Rome will play a central role. 01:50 Now you and I, I think could comfortably now discuss 01:53 what's going on now with Rome? 01:54 There is some documents coming out of Rome 01:57 that are very problematic on the future of religious freedom 02:00 and as far as fulfilling predictions against aggressive, 02:05 a dominant world, religious world view 02:07 that may require adherence to those points. 02:10 Well, let me first address Revelation 17, 02:14 let me address a document that just came out 02:16 of the Pontifical Council for Justice and Peace. 02:19 Revelation 17 describes this woman riding this beast, okay. 02:25 Seems like the title for a book, doesn't it. 02:27 With ten horns and ten heads essentially, 02:31 and there are ten kings that arise out of this 02:35 which we know as the European Union 02:37 and European powers, and NATO. 02:39 Well, we know that, but this is a point 02:41 that many Christians have gotten way gone, 02:44 because they left behind books and others have taken 02:47 a whole different scenario, you know, 02:50 with the secret rapture and then the system 02:54 that's left behind after that. 02:55 They've got it horribly skewed 02:56 but Protestant Bible explain this, 02:59 it is understood at the way you are explaining now, 03:02 it's not a new idea. Right. 03:03 It's just been ignored for a while. 03:05 Well, it's symbolic the woman, 03:07 the harlot the false church sitting on the beast, 03:10 a symbolic of her influence to the kings of the world 03:13 and how they drink of the wine of her adulteries. 03:16 And the beast, there is always a false system. 03:18 Correct, It ultimately derive from the dragon. 03:20 So there is heavy duty political global influence 03:24 going on dating back to the, 03:26 you know, St. Augustine's period, 03:29 Constantine's period where Rome began its rise 03:33 and so on with Justinian and so on. 03:35 So from 538 A.D., clear to 1260 03:38 and beyond when the wound was or is healing today. 03:42 Can I interject? Yes. 03:44 The fatal flow of Rome's development 03:47 and of today was to laying on the power of the state 03:51 to support its doctrinal viewpoint, right. 03:54 That's where religious liberty becomes vitally important, 03:56 because we believe in the separation 03:59 of church and state that the state 04:01 which is into compelling certain law 04:03 shouldn't be part of a religious equation. 04:05 But the model I am trying to paint here 04:08 is something that I have to elaborate here 04:10 and that is basically the idea that Rome leads from behind, 04:15 it leads never out front as if it's dominant and all powerful. 04:19 Because like Stalin said, 04:23 how many divisions does the Pope have? 04:27 Well, that was actually an accurate statement. 04:29 Yet the Pope and the Vatican and the Popes 04:32 who have been the Popes throughout history 04:35 has always lead through secret diplomacy 04:38 and influence behind the scenes. 04:40 So that's been where it's got this influence. 04:41 So this picture of this harlot riding the beast 04:44 so to speak is a depiction of the church riding the state 04:49 or basically pulling the strings like 04:52 as if the beast were puppet. That's a good point. 04:54 Okay, so, so when you get on to Revelation 17 04:58 and you read verses 12 through 14 04:59 which says the ten horns you saw ten kings 05:02 who have not yet received the kingdom 05:03 but who for one hour will receive the authority 05:05 as kings along with beasts says they have one purpose 05:08 and will give their power and authority to the beast, 05:10 a lamb like beast, Protestant America. 05:12 And it says, they will make a war against the lamb 05:14 and His chosen and faithful people. 05:17 It says the lamb and His chosen faithful people 05:19 will overcome them, okay. That's future, okay. 05:22 We don't know when-- they will spiritually overcome. 05:24 We know that it will be a global western US led alliance 05:30 that brings us about, 05:32 but behind the scenes is always Rome, 05:34 lurking behind the scenes, that's why in verses 17 and 18, 05:39 it says that, it describes the city, 05:42 it describes this prostitute where it sits 05:46 describes it as waters which represent 05:49 many people's multitudes nations and languages, 05:51 represents the whole globe 05:53 essentially it's influence, okay. 05:55 And so its influence has spread throughout, 05:58 it's the largest religion in the world, 06:00 Islam comes close, but not as close in terms of numbers 06:04 what is Roman Catholic Church is something like 06:09 nearly two billion strong and Islam is like 1.2 billion. 06:14 So you have verses 16 and 17 where it says that 06:17 these powers go along with her influence 06:21 or suggest they go along with her influence 06:23 as described by the earlier part of the book 06:26 Chapter 17 of Revelation. 06:28 But then it says they turn on her and eat her flesh, 06:34 they burn her with fire. 06:35 And so it suggests that this global alliance, 06:38 this world alliance comes to a bad end for Rome, 06:42 that they are upset, they regret having followed Rome 06:45 and wonder why did we followed Rome? 06:47 This has let us down a rosy path 06:51 that ended up in taken us to perditions. 06:54 Well, it's the whole point of the Bible 06:55 that showed that compromising sin 06:57 doesn't work out well. Yes. 06:58 I should explain that the point of prophecy 07:01 when John received the Revelation at his time, 07:04 it was very unambiguous to all Christian 07:07 reading this that Rome was Pagan Rome 07:11 was the persecutor of the saints, 07:12 it was the epitome of all that oppose God's system. 07:16 And it meant manipulated kings and emperors. 07:18 Absolutely, yes and it's fairly easy to show historically 07:22 how Pagan Rome morphed into Papal Rome. 07:26 In fact present day Rome themselves, 07:30 the Roman Church themselves likes to trace that lineage. 07:34 And it reached the point with the fall of Rome 07:36 at one point the vicar of Rome comes out there 07:38 and parlays with the barbarians who were destroying the city, 07:41 the civil power so disappeared but here the religious leader 07:45 was essentially the leader of that state. 07:48 I have this abridged version of St. Augustine's city of Gods, 07:52 a little paper back at home and inside the introduction 07:54 is written by the famous philosopher Etienne Gilson. 07:59 And in there he talks about how St. Augustine 08:04 perceived this city of God or looked at the city of God 08:08 and basically what he was talking about 08:10 Etienne Gilson writes is a one world government. 08:13 A one world government that essentially 08:16 was influenced by Rome and of course at that time 08:21 the western power was Europe, okay, 08:23 united especially after the Westphalian pact 08:26 or agreement in 1648 where the-- where each European nation 08:30 would be sovereign but would live peacefully as neighbors 08:34 with each other and promote so called religious freedom 08:39 and human rights which emerged from that. 08:42 Now it's worth mentioning, I think with Augustine 08:45 we can reasonably assume that he didn't see his views 08:48 as leading to persecution and I think that many, 08:51 if not most times during the Papal era 08:54 and even coming through today. 08:57 I don't ascribe the worst motives 09:00 to the Papal plans or to Roman plans. 09:04 It's just that human beings will tend that way 09:07 and whenever you unite church and state or political power 09:10 and religious power, it will come to a bad end. 09:13 And so they've embraced this poison pill 09:16 of using political names to create religious orthodoxy. 09:21 The poison pills I think has been swallowed 09:23 is what we talked about it in our earlier segment 09:25 that we just filmed and that is just war theory. 09:28 It's that's the pill, 09:29 that's the pill because what it is. 09:31 Because they think that they have the right to act 09:34 as governments do. 09:35 You know, ultimately and this is large socially. 09:38 If you are really think about it a civil government 09:40 reserves the right to use force. Yes. 09:43 That's how it maintains itself. 09:44 But even Paul says that they wield not the sword in vain. 09:48 But St. Augustine was the first one 09:50 actually in documented history to come up with this idea 09:52 of just war theory along with Thomas Aquinas 09:55 who actually applied. 09:57 If you look at the historical situation for time 09:59 it was an expedient doctrine that developed. 10:01 St Thomas Aquinas actually came up with 10:05 more of an international formula for it 10:07 which has been followed ever since. 10:09 In the last segment we talked about Barack Obama 10:11 and how he believes in just war theory 10:14 from his upbringing in Catholic, 10:15 mostly Catholic schools during his upbringing. 10:18 But this Pontifical Council for Justice and Peace 10:21 came up with a document just a few weeks ago titled... 10:26 Is there a date on it? It just says Vatican City, 10:29 2011 but it was released in October. 10:31 Yeah, around October. 10:33 In October, and in says towards reforming the international, 10:35 financial and monitory systems 10:37 in the context of global public authority. 10:40 And what they are calling for is essentially a global agency 10:45 or a global governing authority to govern 10:49 how money is used and basically you would think that 10:53 they were supporting the occupied Wall Street movement 10:56 saying that there is the poor 11:00 and then there is the few wealthy 11:01 and therefore the rich, the wealthy ought to be 11:05 more just and ought to be more noble 11:08 and ought to distribute that wealth more evenly, 11:11 so that people don't suffer in the name of the common good. 11:15 Now, you know, this document itself 11:17 makes references to the other people pronouncements 11:20 going back several or at least two of the Popes, 11:24 but where I see an immediate antecedent 11:26 to this was in the document in 2009. 11:30 Caritas in Veritates, 11:32 Papal Encyclical given to Barack Obama, 11:36 it lead the bank copy as he went to the G10, 11:38 I think it was at that time. Yes. 11:40 And it lays out there that the plans 11:43 for the new world order and it's not bad reading, 11:45 I am not offended as I read it, 11:47 but you put it all together and it sort of signals exactly 11:51 what they are saying here that the Rome sees itself 11:54 as the God father of the new world order 11:57 that it administered in a blanket application 12:01 of moral principles that created fairness in union 12:06 and labor relations, fairness in financial markets, 12:09 helps the average workers spiritually and so on. 12:13 And John Paul the II, advocated this sort of thing, 12:15 but there is more coming out by different Catholic experts 12:21 so called that are down playing this documents 12:24 saying it's not a particularly important document 12:28 because the Vatican or the Pope didn't give his blessing. 12:32 When he thinks the lady does protest too much. 12:34 When in fact Pope Benedict went to the United Nations in 2009 12:39 and basically stated all of this 12:42 two years in advance of this document. 12:44 Oh now, this is very central to their present planning. 12:47 absolutely, we will be right back after a short break 12:49 to continue this discussion about something very pivotal 12:52 to understanding current world developments. 13:03 One hundred years, a long time to do anything, 13:07 much less publish a magazine, but this year "Liberty," 13:11 the Seventh-day Adventist voice of religious freedom 13:14 celebrates 100 years of doing what it does best, 13:17 collecting, analyzing, and reporting the ebb and flow 13:21 of religious expression around the world. 13:23 Issue after issue, Liberty has taken on the tough assignments. 13:28 Tracking down threats to religious freedom 13:30 and exposing the work of the devil 13:31 in every corner of the globe. 13:33 Governmental interference, personal attacks, 13:36 corporate assaults, even religious freedom issues 13:39 sequestered within the Church community 13:41 itself have been clearly and honestly exposed. 13:44 Liberty exists for one purpose, to help God's people 13:48 maintain that all important separation of Church and state 13:52 while recognizing the dangers inherent in such a struggle. 13:56 During the past century, 13:57 Liberty has experienced challenges of it's own, 14:00 but it remains on the job. 14:02 Thanks to the inspired leadership 14:03 of a long line of dedicated Adventist editors, 14:06 three of whom represent almost half of the publications' 14:09 existence and the foresight of a little woman from New England. 14:13 One hundred years of struggle, 100 years of victories, 14:17 religious freedom isn't just about political machines 14:20 and cultural prejudices. 14:22 It's about people fighting for the right to serve the God 14:26 they love as their hearts and the Holy Spirit dictate. 14:30 Thanks to the prayers and generous support 14:32 of Seventh-day Adventists everywhere. 14:35 Liberty will continue to accomplish it's work 14:37 of providing timely information, spirit filled inspiration, 14:40 and heaven sent encouragement to all who long to live 14:44 and work in a world bound together by the God 14:48 ordained bonds of religious freedom. 15:01 Welcome back to the "Liberty Insider." 15:03 Before the break with guest Greg Hamilton, 15:05 we were talking about some recent statements 15:08 coming out of Rome. Yeah, I want to read to you. 15:10 And you have got the text of one there. 15:13 I want to read out the Pontifical Council 15:15 for Justice and Peace there from their document called 15:18 "Towards Reforming the International 15:19 Financial and Monetary Systems in the Context 15:21 of a Global Public Authority." 15:23 They are calling for a global governing authority 15:26 for the world's monitory system. 15:28 Here is what they say, 15:30 and I know this is kind of a big quote, 15:32 but it's very important. 15:33 On the way to building a more fraternal 15:35 and just human family and, even before that, 15:38 a new humanism open to transcendence, 15:41 Blessed Pope John XXIII's teaching, 15:45 he was the Pope in the late 50's 15:47 and the early 60's the Vatican II Pope. 15:50 The grandfatherly oh God. 15:52 Blessed John XXIII's teaching seems especially timely. 15:56 In the prophetic Encyclical Pacem in Terries of 1963, 16:01 he observed that the world was heading 16:03 towards ever greater unification. 16:05 In other words basically predicting what we have said 16:08 in our previous program globalism 16:11 and this interdependence of nations led by the U.S. 16:14 in the western global alliance with of course the Pope 16:17 and the Vatican influenceing it. 16:20 He then acknowledged the fact, this Pope, 16:22 John the XXIII that a correspondence 16:25 was lacking in the human community 16:27 between the political organization on a world level 16:31 and the objective needs of the universal common good. 16:33 He also expressed the hope that one day 16:36 a one true world political authority would be created. 16:40 That's the essence of this document. 16:42 Of course the Vatican has always advocated this, 16:46 socialist approach to world order 16:49 which is very interesting, because it really is 16:51 a socialist approach with some capitalistic overtones. 16:57 It doesn't reject capitalism per say anymore like it did 17:01 John XXIII was very much in line 17:05 with socialistic teaching 17:06 and was not very pro-western as a Pope. 17:09 And it's not by chance that Italy and Rome 17:12 in particular it had a long love affair with socialism. 17:17 In other words, they use to say 17:18 there are more communists in Italy 17:20 then the Soviet Union at one point. 17:22 Actually there's still quite a few socialists there. 17:24 And it didn't sort of derive very naturally 17:26 from what was coming out of Catholicism. 17:29 Yes, but at the end of the document, 17:32 this is what's interesting. 17:33 They actually take Genesis Chapter 11, 17:35 verses 1 to 9 where it talks about the Tower of Babel. 17:38 And actually spins it to mean something different 17:41 than what actually happened. 17:43 They say that the through the account 17:44 of the Tower of Babel, the Bible warns us 17:47 how the "diversity" of peoples can turn into a vehicle 17:51 for selfishness and an instrumented division. 17:54 And then it goes on to basically say that 17:58 the Tower of Babel doesn't clarify that the Tower of Babel 18:03 was actually defying God in an attempt to build 18:06 a one world order. 18:08 So that there would never be a flood, 18:10 so that they could defy God and unite 18:13 all the human race into one. 18:15 And God says no and he broke it up into different languages 18:18 and they grabbed each other's throats 18:21 and try to strangle each other and that's was the disbursement 18:24 or the division of all the tribes throughout the earth. 18:27 Interesting, because in the mid 80's 18:30 when the European union was gathering strength, 18:33 they chose a logo at that time 18:35 and I haven't been able to find a sense, 18:37 so that it's fallen into disuse, 18:39 but the graphic symbol of the European Union 18:42 was the Tower of Babel. Yes. 18:44 So I believe that's what, why that's been invoke there. 18:47 But their argument is that the diversity which occurred 18:51 after God threw in the different languages 18:54 and cause them to basically turn on each other, 18:56 he is saying this document is saying 18:59 that's the height of selfishness. 19:02 Essentially almost in a backend way 19:04 endorsing the goals of the Tower of Babel 19:07 which is in defiance of God. 19:09 Absolutely and the European Union had this, 19:11 it was something roughly equivalent 19:13 to the American statement, you know, out of many one. 19:17 Yes, that's the United States of Europe so to speak. 19:20 Yes. Yes. But there is another connection 19:23 here that I want to make. 19:24 We've been troubled in the religious liberty circle 19:26 and you know about this for some time with calls in Europe 19:30 for a family day of rest and that comes directly 19:35 from the document Caritas in Veritates 19:39 and it's part of this enlightened look at economics 19:43 in capital and labor 19:44 and that the workmen needs this rest. Right. 19:47 And it has gathered steam as a secular at the time of rest 19:52 except that every church including Rome, 19:54 but you know, all other churches too are being keen out 19:56 in pushing it and we have seen beginnings of this 19:59 in the United States in North Dakota, 20:01 they have just recently passed a modern Blue Law 20:04 that mandates Sunday closing, 20:07 which is not extraordinary in a certain sense, 20:10 because there are many Blue Laws still on the books 20:11 that are not in force or some that in New England 20:14 I know they still have some of the mandate 20:16 look at closing and things like that. 20:18 There are some respects for Sunday. 20:20 But what I found very significant in the North Dakota 20:24 the one was the local Catholic alliance 20:28 for one of the better term, but the organization there 20:30 that was speaking for the churches interest 20:33 invoked this same language from the Papal document 20:37 that this is necessary spiritual rest 20:41 and then they went further and said that they would expect 20:44 that people could devote this time to worship of God. 20:48 What we have long expected which happened 20:50 in the middle ages but at the end of time 20:52 there will be this compulsion to a false day of worship. 20:55 We're seeing it come now under disguise of globalism 20:58 and of secularism and just a necessity to rest. 21:02 But since when did Rome assume the moral authority, 21:06 I mean to regulate the world's economy, 21:08 because you know, in terms of giving to the poor. 21:11 Well, I'll still remember. And taking away from the rich. 21:13 Banco Ambrosiano, they would tell you 21:16 that financial things not to be trusted to churchmen-- 21:19 Well, the reason why I bring that up is because 21:21 you look at the Pedophilia scandals, 21:22 you look at the Vatican essentially virtually bankrupt, 21:27 you know, this idea that Rome is the wealthiest institution 21:30 in the world is pure nonsense. 21:31 Oh sure, they have the assets and buildings 21:33 and statues and cathedrals everywhere, 21:36 but they don't have much of a cash flow. 21:37 In fact in 1982, the Vatican, 21:44 it was headlines I'll never forget, 21:46 I was walking the streets of New York City in Manhattan 21:48 and I saw the headline "Vatican sells valuable 21:51 city states to the Italian government" 21:54 so essentially the Vatican which is considered 21:56 a sovereign nation state and the world's largest church, 22:01 okay both a state and a church 22:03 sits on a very small piece of property now instead 22:07 of having all those Vatican city states surrounding it. 22:09 It sold it back to the Italian government 22:11 so to speak for needed cash flow. 22:14 I thought that was interesting back then back in the 80's 22:17 because it suggest that 22:19 Roman Catholic Church is not only, 22:23 this is interesting symbolically, 22:25 morally bankrupt, but it's monetarily bankrupt. 22:29 Well, so what authority does do they have to press 22:33 for a one world governing authority 22:36 regarding the world economy. 22:37 Who are they to speak? 22:38 Yeah, we could certainly ask that question 22:40 and when I think back on Great Controversy. 22:43 No, but who do they think they are? 22:44 Seventh-day Adventist, Seventh-day Adventist 22:46 should be reading Great Controversy, 22:47 Ellen White wrote it, you know, well over a century ago. 22:50 And she said that in our era the sins and the problems 22:56 with the Rome will be revealed exactly at the same time 22:59 as its strength increases and this is certain, 23:01 it doesn't make sense. 23:02 And leave it to the Irish to ban it's, 23:08 the Vatican are baser to Ireland, 23:11 to totally cut diplomatic times 23:13 over the brouhaha of Pedophilia scandals 23:17 erupting allover Ireland. 23:19 I mean Ireland, the President there 23:20 has taken a very strong stand. 23:22 I forget his name, do you remember his name. 23:24 I don't remember his name but he has come out 23:27 very strongly in the news over the last several months 23:30 and there has been this absolute clash 23:32 between Rome and Ireland. 23:34 And you know, I think it's fitting that Ireland 23:36 would actually clash like that because Ireland has always been 23:40 historically at the forefront even though they are split 23:44 between Catholics and Protestants, 23:46 it seems that even the Irish Catholics 23:48 have come to the side of the Protestant view against Rome. 23:51 Now, we need to say something, 23:52 you know, we don't want to be so biased 23:55 that we are uninformed and illogical. 23:58 Pedophilia is an emerging problem, 24:00 and it may be its just the emerging reality of it 24:04 quite apart from Roman Catholic Church, 24:06 you know, I could argue the structure 24:08 of the priesthood sort of lends itself to that, 24:11 but it's not just in the Roman Catholic Church. 24:14 Well Pope Benedict the XVI came out with a statement 24:16 when he was in Africa recently that essentially stated that 24:21 while Pedophilia occurred back in those days 24:23 and now was just that era. Right. And as if to excuse it. 24:26 Well, you are getting to the point that I am trying to play. 24:28 That's not excusable. It's not just that it's in the priesthood 24:31 we have seen a huge spate of revelation. 24:34 But it's the churches response that is the problem, 24:37 that it's covering up, there is denial, 24:40 there is obfuscation which is I was covering up with it. 24:43 But their argument is that they have the right 24:44 to handle their own internal affairs 24:46 without other governments breaking in their offices 24:49 and taking records and documents 24:52 like they did in Belgium recently. 24:53 And this is the issue of Thomas A Becket 24:56 in the Middle Ages and ironically 24:58 this is another program that we may have 25:00 and we might had before on a Supreme Court case 25:02 as on a table with the ministry 25:04 like exception is being looked at. 25:07 Yeah, so some of the old issues of the past 25:10 or will this again and the Roman Catholic Church 25:12 is showing us quite clearly, that they did believe 25:15 that it's about civil power. 25:16 Yes. That it's the primary-- The sovereign immunity. 25:19 And another thing that came out recently 25:21 that I was quite amazed to read it. 25:24 You were mentioning their property. 25:26 And this is why on this program I will object to Rome, 25:29 because they were church and the state 25:30 and that's the worst combination for religious freedom. 25:33 that's what they think they have sovereign immunity 25:35 in all of these Pedophilia scandals 25:37 that they are untouchable. 25:38 And they made a comment the other day 25:40 that I thought was bold. 25:42 They said that their sovereign nation status is not 25:47 because of Mussolini and his gift 25:51 of some little property in Rome 25:52 that their state status goes much back much further. 25:57 You're talking about the Lateran Treaty. 25:58 Yeah, but the Lateran Treaty with Mussolini. Right. 26:00 They didn't mention the treaty, they just alluded to it. 26:02 But they had an earlier claim that's a rather damning claim. 26:09 Yeah, the way I see the whole situation lining up 26:12 with this document is that despite the fact that 26:17 pendants and Catholic pendants are saying 26:20 that this is not a document 26:21 that originates from the Vatican, 26:23 therefore should be taken seriously. 26:24 I think we have to take it seriously 26:26 because the Pope himself both stated at the United Nations 26:29 and in other places in a separate document 26:32 has called for a world governing authority 26:35 regarding the world economy. 26:36 And I think that's very serious. 26:38 And so my question is where do they have the moral 26:41 and economic and global authority to do that? 26:44 I say they have none and to me that's prophetic. 26:48 When Peter and John turned up in the temple 26:51 after Christ resurrection speaking of the risen Christ. 26:54 They were challenged by the authorities with the question 26:58 "By what authority do you say these things?" 27:02 As I look around at some of the religious activities 27:05 in particular activities and pronouncements 27:08 of the Roman Catholic Church, 27:09 I am reminded of that, because constantly 27:12 that church is referring to its authority 27:16 and as a Christian, as a Bible believing Christian, 27:18 I know that that's always a danger sign. 27:22 God is the ultimate authority. 27:23 He's never delegated it to His people, 27:27 to His priest, to His leader to speak for Him 27:30 out of the fullness of their own heart. 27:32 And I do believe that as we enter 27:34 these last days of history, 27:36 arguably the last days because of prophecy, 27:39 the question more and more is going to develop 27:42 down into on what authority. 27:45 The church fathers, the church leaders or God's word. 27:49 It's really incumbent upon all of us 27:52 who value religious liberty, 27:55 all of us who are looking for solutions 27:57 to the world's problems, 27:58 to look at the point of authority, 28:00 is it God, is it man, or worse is it religion speaking for God. 28:05 This is Lincoln steed for "Liberty Insider." |
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