Scholars have
pretty much agreed that
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probably they were
located in the plain
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that now lies
under the Dead Sea.
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And let me tell
you under the Dead Sea
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there is nothing burning,
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undergoing the
punishment of eternal fire.
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Again we are
going to allow the Bible
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to interpret itself, right.
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I am gonna share with
you two passages that relate
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to what happened to
the wicked inhabitants
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of Sodom and Gomorrah
going back to Genesis 19:17.
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Remember the
angels came to get Lot
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and his family out of the
city before the destruction
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and they said to
Lot and his family.
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"He said, 'Escape for your life,
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look not behind thee,
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neither stay
thou in all the plain,
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escape to the mountain,
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lest thou be" what? "Consumed. "
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So what happened to
the wicked inhabitants?
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The Bible says the angel said
they were going to be consumed.
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We are gonna
compile a list tonight.
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You may want to
do this in your notes
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and we are gonna take the
words straight of the Bible,
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we are not gonna be
interpretive about it.
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We are just
gonna take the language
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as we find it in the scriptures
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and it's gonna be text
after text as you can see
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by looking at your notes.
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And so the first word
we want to add up there
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is the word, "Consume. "
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Do remember in Jude 7 it says,
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"They are exhibited
as an example to us. "
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An example of
what is going to happen
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to the wicked in the end time.
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Do you know that Jesus
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dealt with this
issue of what happened
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to the inhabitants
of Sodom and Gomorrah?
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As you will find it as we,
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we look to Luke 17
the New Testament page 62.
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Page 62, Luke 17
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and we are gonna
look at verse 29.
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Luke 17:29 were Jesus said
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"But on the day that
Lot went out form Sodom
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it rained fire and brimstone
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from heaven and
destroyed them all. "
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What happened to them?
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The keyword here is
the key, is the word what?
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Destroyed, Destroyed.
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And so we are going to add
that to the list, "Destroyed. "
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Again it's the term we are not
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you know again gonna be
highly interpretive at all
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but what the
Bible teaches on this.
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And then let's take a
look at 2 Thessalonians 1,
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the New Testament page 161,
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161, 2 Thessalonians 1:9.
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Thessalonians and of course one
of those letters that Paul wrote
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we have two
letters that he wrote
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to the Thessalonians
and here in 2 Thessalonians,
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it says in 1 and just come
down right there to verse 9
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and again its
talking about the wicked.
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It says "These will pay
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the penalty of
eternal destruction,
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away from the
presence of the Lord
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and from the
glory of His power."
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Take out these terms,
"Eternal Destruction."
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Okay, we looked at three texts.
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We got in a little
sense of the drift again.
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You know again I'm using that
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illustration of the post line.
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We have got three post down.
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We are beginning here little bit
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of the sense of the direction
where this may be going.
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You do have a clue
where we are going right,
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based on this view opening text.
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But I have got a lot more
that I am gonna share with you
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but you might think to yourself
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how about Revelation 20:10 that
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we began with
where it says they will,
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you know, for ever, and ever.
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I mean that seems pretty
straightforward, doesn't it?
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Now remember we not
only look at the text
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but we need also being
considering the context.
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So let's go back and look
at this text in this context.
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Back to Revelation 20, that's
the New Testament page 200,
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page 200 and Revelation 20
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and we are going to
look at the previous verse.
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Not verse 10 where we
were but the previous verse.
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And I want to
point out something
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as we studied the
millennium you will remember
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that we discover
the Bible teaches that
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at the end of the
thousand year period of time,
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who is that that is resurrected?
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Who is resurrected at the
end of the thousand years?
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The wicked.
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And why are they resurrected?
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For the purpose of
judgment, that's right.
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Okay, this is the context
they have been resurrected.
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This is their
final punishment as
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what's being referred to here.
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And remember Satan
is lose for short time,
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in verse 7 it talks about
that he is lose for short time
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and the wicked are resurrected,
He goes out and organizes
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and that they go up against
the encamped at the saints.
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Remember, the New Jerusalem
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and the people of God have
come down from heaven to earth
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and they are determined
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they are gonna
fight this out to the end.
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This is the context.
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Verse 9 "And they"
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the wicked "came up on
the broad plain of the earth
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and surrounded
the camp of the saints
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and the beloved city, and
fire came down from heaven"
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and did what to them?
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"Devoured them" is
what the Bible says.
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So let's add that to our list.
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The bible says
"they will be devoured."
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Now I want to sure
we really understand
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what we are talking about
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so, let me give you
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a just a simple but
practical illustration.
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After years of
training and education,
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four years of
undergraduate work in theology,
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two year
internship, out in the field
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followed by another
two years masters program
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and another two
years of internship
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they finally gave
me my own district.
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I've been associated
pastor up to that point.
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And the district
they gave me up there
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in the north
central part of the state
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of Washington in
the Okanagan country.
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In fact, as we move there
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this would be
this would be 1976,
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77, 1977, we moved in there.
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We moved into the parsonage
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and for the first
time in our experience
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we had a house.
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Every time up to that point
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we were either in apartment
we were renting or in a duplex.
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Now we were in a house,
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we were paying rent for it.
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And in that house
there was a Franklin stove.
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We didn't realize how
cold it was going to get.
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Like as you was laid over
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the Canadian and
Washington US border.
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We were four, almost
four miles from Canada.
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So we were really north
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in the eastern slopes
of the Cascade Mountains.
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We were in orchid country.
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My head elder
was David Buck Miller
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and the harvest over
three weeks of intensive
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we were getting
those apples down
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into the
warehouse and he was done.
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The weather was
holding and he said to me,
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you know, we got to get you
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a load of wood for
that Franklin stove.
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Not just on my heart right over
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I knew this was gonna be a man
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that I could really work with.
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And so on a Sunday
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he came by with his great
pickup with sideboards on it.
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We headed it down highway 97
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and went up on what
we call the Molson grey.
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There was this track
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and there was a
high bench up there
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and we found some
trees that were fallen
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and they were seasoned
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and he said I am
gonna cut them up
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and why don't you
start splitting them?
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I have never done
any splitting in my life.
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You know, I was a
runner, I was young,
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I was still in my 20s.
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Man, I was still young.
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And I was in a real strong
cardiovascular fitness program
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you know, so I was
thought it was really in shape.
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I really found
what work was about.
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As he was cutting them up
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and as I was splitting
them until we had a load that,
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you know, came right up
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even with those sideboards
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and we got in.
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This is the old truck now.
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And we are coming down
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and this kind of rugged road
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and you can feel that
load kind of shifting,
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those springs were wow.
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You know, long overdue
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they have been
replaced probably.
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And I was sitting on
my-- and we came to side
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as we were
coming down it was steep
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and on my side it
was particularly steep.
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And I wasn't sure that he
was such a talker and he was
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you know he's got
another young pastor.
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You know to share all of this
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you know sage
experience and anyway
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I don't what he
was talking about
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because I was nervous.
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I just was not sure and
sure enough it happened.
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The back wheel on
my side began to slip
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right over in the loose gravel.
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For sure and we were
going fast and fortunately
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he had very fast reflexes,
he is on that break in a moment.
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We set the break,
we climbed on his side
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and surveyed the situation.
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As I said it was loose gravel
and the load was like this.
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And it was cleared to us
00:19:01.49\00:19:02.72
that if he tried to
drive it up out of it
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and it just going
to go right on over.
00:19:04.84\00:19:07.62
But, you know, we
know we found some stones
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and we build up
ourselves a ramp.
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And anyway we got out of there
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but that was more excitement
than I encountered for.
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And when we got
home the work wasn't over
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because what you
load up you got to unload
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and we unloaded it,
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threw it into the
backyard over that picket fence.
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We had a place down the
cellar where we gonna put it.
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I remember telling David
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I think I will save
this for another day
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I was really beat.
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Went in to find my wife
had been baking peach pies.
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Peach pies, do you
love peach pies like I do?
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I think she had seven of them.
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She-- she was baking most
of them about halfway through
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and sticking
them into the freezer
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to be used in the winter months.
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But two of them she
had baked, all that aroma,
00:19:52.38\00:19:55.92
when you are so hungry
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and you have been
out in the open air
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you know how it is, right.
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And she--
00:20:00.53\00:20:01.64
I gave one of
those pies to David.
00:20:01.67\00:20:03.77
I hope he enjoyed
as much as I did mine
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and my wife fixed
me this wonderful meal.
00:20:05.66\00:20:08.47
Guess this has
something to do with hell,
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really good or not I am
getting to the point now
00:20:10.49\00:20:13.46
and I sat down to eat
and here is the point.
00:20:13.49\00:20:17.07
I was so hungry I devoured it
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which means when I was
done there was nothing left.
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Almost like the plate frame.
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So that's an illustration
for the word devoured.
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What's that fun getting there?
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Now the point I
am making is this
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one does not have to
be a college graduate,
00:20:36.54\00:20:39.85
one does not have to
spend years at seminary
00:20:39.88\00:20:43.88
to be able to
understand the clear intent
00:20:43.91\00:20:47.72
and the clear
meaning of these words
00:20:47.75\00:20:50.31
that we discovered in regards
to the fate of the wicked,
00:20:50.34\00:20:53.37
consume, devoured destroyed.
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Do you have to get
out our Webster dictionary
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to figure that out?
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No.
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Now, I know this is puzzling
00:21:02.80\00:21:05.05
because you know
where I am going with this.
00:21:05.08\00:21:07.10
And yet all of us know that
the traditional view about hell
00:21:07.13\00:21:10.32
that's being taught out
there and almost every church
00:21:10.35\00:21:13.75
is the eternal hell
of never ending fire.
00:21:13.78\00:21:17.33
But again,
remember what we believe
00:21:17.36\00:21:19.23
and what we teach
00:21:19.26\00:21:21.75
must be in harmony
with the Bible, right.
00:21:21.78\00:21:25.74
We agreed on that
00:21:25.77\00:21:27.26
and this
subject is no different.
00:21:27.29\00:21:29.78
And so we want to
settle that issue tonight
00:21:29.81\00:21:32.12
and we are not gonna do
with just two or three texts.
00:21:32.15\00:21:34.58
We have got lot more texts
00:21:34.61\00:21:35.64
that we are
gonna share with you.
00:21:35.67\00:21:37.10
This is indeed a
real Bible study tonight.
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And so I take you on--
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let's see chapter 20,
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how did that page get turned.
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I guess, because I was talking
00:21:46.64\00:21:48.38
and being so active up
here but turn to Malachi 4,
00:21:48.41\00:21:51.43
the Old Testament page 678.
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Last book of the
Old Testament, 678
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Malachi Chapter 4
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and we want to look at--
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well, we are gonna
begin with verse 1.
00:22:00.78\00:22:04.58
This is the book of course
00:22:04.61\00:22:05.76
just before the Book of Matthew.
00:22:05.79\00:22:08.48
And it's talking about
00:22:08.51\00:22:09.66
what is gonna be
happening to the wicked.
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In Malachi 4:1 it says
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"For behold, the day is coming,
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burning like a furnace,
00:22:17.35\00:22:18.96
and all the arrogant and" evil
00:22:18.99\00:22:20.61
"every evildoer
will be" like what?
00:22:20.64\00:22:23.41
"They're going to be like chaff
00:22:23.44\00:22:25.03
and the day that is
coming will set them ablaze,
00:22:25.06\00:22:27.27
says the Lord of hosts,
00:22:27.30\00:22:28.38
so that it will leave
them neither root nor branch."
00:22:28.41\00:22:31.70
My friend, we are
not spiritualizing
00:22:31.73\00:22:33.61
our way hell tonight.
00:22:33.64\00:22:35.46
Those fires are real.
00:22:35.49\00:22:38.15
They are real.
00:22:38.18\00:22:39.40
There is nothing in the
Bible that would indicate
00:22:39.43\00:22:41.71
that this is to be
understood symbolically
00:22:41.74\00:22:43.98
or that we just should
kind of make spiritual,
00:22:44.01\00:22:47.47
you know, application
00:22:47.50\00:22:48.60
and just kind of cover it over.
00:22:48.63\00:22:51.04
Those fires are very real.
00:22:51.07\00:22:52.59
The wicked are like chaff,
00:22:52.62\00:22:54.37
that day is
gonna set them ablaze
00:22:54.40\00:22:55.92
and will leave them
neither root nor branch.
00:22:55.95\00:22:57.38
How many of you
00:22:57.41\00:22:59.11
ever took biology somewhere
either high school or college?
00:22:59.14\00:23:04.80
Okay, biology
00:23:04.83\00:23:06.67
I don't know how it
was for you I got it twice.
00:23:06.70\00:23:08.90
I took it in high school
00:23:08.93\00:23:10.96
and then when I was in college
00:23:10.99\00:23:13.15
we were required to have one,
00:23:13.18\00:23:14.61
science course
as theology students
00:23:14.64\00:23:18.73
and I chose biology.
00:23:18.76\00:23:21.89
It was a full three-quarters
00:23:21.92\00:23:23.87
and I saved this basic
one on one freshman course
00:23:23.90\00:23:28.17
biology course
for my senior year.
00:23:28.20\00:23:32.54
In retrospect I
should have known better
00:23:32.57\00:23:34.47
because I was taking it
from the head of the department.
00:23:34.50\00:23:39.22
And I-- you know, I
didn't always think about
00:23:39.25\00:23:41.04
those kinds of things,
00:23:41.07\00:23:42.55
you know, it really
depends who is teaching at.
00:23:42.58\00:23:45.00
But let me tell you
in the world of theology
00:23:45.03\00:23:47.14
it is primary
the world have ideas.
00:23:47.17\00:23:50.67
You know, scientific
fact and memorization
00:23:50.70\00:23:53.50
and all of that there is some
00:23:53.53\00:23:55.23
but it's not like the sciences.
00:23:55.26\00:23:59.23
So I tell you of
all my senior courses
00:23:59.26\00:24:01.61
that freshman biology course
was the toughest one, it was.
00:24:01.64\00:24:06.98
And it was good,
though it was good
00:24:07.01\00:24:08.60
I loved the field trips.
00:24:08.63\00:24:10.62
Going out there and you
know getting the specimens
00:24:10.65\00:24:12.92
or getting their
scientific names.
00:24:12.95\00:24:14.30
That was really interesting
00:24:14.33\00:24:15.50
and pressing them in the book
00:24:15.53\00:24:16.87
turning the book in
as a part of you grade.
00:24:16.90\00:24:18.62
You all went
through that, didn't you?
00:24:18.65\00:24:19.68
The bird list-- the field
work was really interesting,
00:24:19.71\00:24:22.75
interesting stuff to do.
00:24:22.78\00:24:24.54
And so I did pick up
00:24:24.57\00:24:26.04
something on
those biology courses.
00:24:26.07\00:24:28.21
When it talks about
the wicked being like chaff
00:24:28.24\00:24:30.11
and it's not going to leave
them neither root nor branch,
00:24:30.14\00:24:34.07
that pretty much covers a plant.
00:24:34.10\00:24:36.56
The root system under the soil,
00:24:36.59\00:24:38.77
the branch
system above the soil,
00:24:38.80\00:24:42.91
that's just not much left.
00:24:42.94\00:24:44.97
There is something left
though as we look at verse 3.
00:24:45.00\00:24:49.30
It says "You will
tread down the wicked,
00:24:49.33\00:24:51.47
for they will be" what?
00:24:51.50\00:24:53.76
What's the keyword here?
00:24:53.79\00:24:55.27
"Ashes under the soles
of your feet on the day
00:24:55.30\00:24:58.24
which I am preparing,
says the Lord of hosts."
00:24:58.27\00:25:01.53
And I have got a
picture of ashes.
00:25:01.56\00:25:05.75
You didn't know we
gonna have so much fun
00:25:05.78\00:25:07.50
talking about
hell tonight, did you?
00:25:07.53\00:25:10.26
And it is good
news about hell, ashes.
00:25:10.29\00:25:13.28
Whenever you take--
00:25:13.31\00:25:14.98
I don't know what's the term,
00:25:15.01\00:25:18.08
whenever you
take organic material
00:25:18.11\00:25:22.25
and you burn it up
00:25:22.28\00:25:24.17
the byproduct you will be
left with is literally ashes.
00:25:24.20\00:25:28.48
And that's literally
what the Bible indicates
00:25:28.51\00:25:30.93
is gonna be left.
00:25:30.96\00:25:32.85
I remember years ago
00:25:32.88\00:25:33.91
when my oldest son
David was in elementary school
00:25:33.94\00:25:37.24
again Christian
school and we were taking
00:25:37.27\00:25:39.79
and taking the
kids picking them up.
00:25:39.82\00:25:42.73
And my wife told me
00:25:42.76\00:25:43.79
and she said, you
know, there was this--
00:25:43.82\00:25:45.40
they have been
this new business.
00:25:45.43\00:25:46.62
They had--the building
have been going up for sometime
00:25:46.65\00:25:49.20
and finally
they got the sign out
00:25:49.23\00:25:50.56
and my oldest son
inquisitive young boy as he was
00:25:50.59\00:25:56.23
happened to look at the sign.
00:25:56.26\00:25:57.30
And he had never
seen this word before
00:25:57.33\00:25:59.37
in front of this building.
00:25:59.40\00:26:01.01
And so he was looking
at this kind of absorbing
00:26:01.04\00:26:03.42
and return to my wife
00:26:03.45\00:26:05.49
and asked her the question.
00:26:05.52\00:26:07.69
He said "you know, why would
anybody want to be creamed?
00:26:07.72\00:26:12.48
Creamed.
00:26:12.51\00:26:14.57
The word was cremation
or crematory, cremation.
00:26:14.60\00:26:19.92
And he is so used
trying to figure it out cream.
00:26:19.95\00:26:22.33
That's what he came up with.
00:26:22.36\00:26:24.11
And so my wife explained
to him what it was all about,
00:26:24.14\00:26:28.01
you know, people
got cremated there.
00:26:28.04\00:26:31.30
And you know when
somebody is cremated
00:26:31.33\00:26:33.59
you get back his urn
right with the ashes.
00:26:33.62\00:26:38.42
People get creative about this.
00:26:38.45\00:26:40.56
They will head off to the top
00:26:40.59\00:26:41.79
of Mount Hood,
the Mount Rainier.
00:26:41.82\00:26:44.22
Let's spread the ashes around
00:26:44.25\00:26:45.33
or they'll hire a boat
and they will go out to sea
00:26:45.36\00:26:48.18
or they will keep up
on the fireplace mantle,
00:26:48.21\00:26:51.05
good old Uncle Joe, you know.
00:26:51.08\00:26:55.01
But literally that,
you know, that's true.
00:26:55.04\00:26:57.67
That's what's left is
what the Bible tells us.
00:26:57.70\00:27:01.04
Is ashes under
the soles of our feet
00:27:01.07\00:27:03.92
is what the wicked
will be on that day.
00:27:03.95\00:27:05.53
Look, take a look at Psalm 37
00:27:05.56\00:27:07.26
the Old Testament page 407, 407.
00:27:07.29\00:27:13.15
I guess we ought to add
this to the list shouldn't
00:27:13.18\00:27:16.99
we since we are doing it
00:27:17.02\00:27:18.85
and that is the word ashes
00:27:18.88\00:27:21.70
because that's where we find.
00:27:21.73\00:27:23.56
So we are gonna turn to Psalm 37
00:27:23.59\00:27:25.80
and as you are looking
as you get to Psalm 37,
00:27:25.83\00:27:29.72
I am going to
interject this text
00:27:29.75\00:27:32.34
from the Book of Ezekiel.
00:27:32.37\00:27:34.49
So get the Psalm 37
00:27:34.52\00:27:36.54
because we want to
turn to that immediately
00:27:36.57\00:27:39.96
in just a moment.
00:27:39.99\00:27:41.46
But somebody
might ask the question
00:27:41.49\00:27:43.99
but doesn't the
devil deserve to be in hell
00:27:44.02\00:27:46.52
for ever and ever?
00:27:46.55\00:27:48.13
If anybody ought to be
there fore ever ought to be him.
00:27:48.16\00:27:52.00
Well, notice what the bible says
00:27:52.03\00:27:54.20
about the evil one
Ezekiel 28:26-28, 29
00:27:54.23\00:27:59.76
where God says, "I will
destroy thee O covering cherub,
00:27:59.79\00:28:04.44
from the midst of
the stones of fire.
00:28:04.47\00:28:06.28
Therefore I will bring forth
a fire from the midst of thee,
00:28:06.31\00:28:09.75
it shall devour thee,
00:28:09.78\00:28:11.84
and I will bring thee
to ashes upon the earth
00:28:11.87\00:28:14.94
in the sight of all
them that behold thee
00:28:14.97\00:28:18.21
and thou shalt be a terror,
00:28:18.24\00:28:20.19
and never shalt
thou be any more."
00:28:20.22\00:28:26.92
What's that mean that last part?
00:28:26.95\00:28:28.97
Never shall thou be any more.
00:28:29.00\00:28:32.24
And my friend, the
fate of the devil himself
00:28:32.27\00:28:34.91
is the faith of the wicked.
00:28:34.94\00:28:36.88
I think that's clear.
00:28:36.91\00:28:38.65
So what to be find?
00:28:38.68\00:28:39.94
Well, a number of terms
00:28:39.97\00:28:41.20
that we have
already seen biblically.
00:28:41.23\00:28:42.96
He is gonna be destroyed.
00:28:42.99\00:28:45.56
Devour brought the ashes
00:28:45.59\00:28:47.75
as we have already noted
00:28:47.78\00:28:48.94
and for them
where as I pointed out
00:28:48.97\00:28:50.70
the last text the
last part of that text says
00:28:50.73\00:28:54.13
"that he will be no more."
00:28:54.16\00:28:57.77
That is he will
cease to exist, right.
00:28:57.80\00:29:02.74
Okay, Psalm 37 I am gonna
go right into that Psalm 37
00:29:06.59\00:29:09.91
and beginning with verse 9.
00:29:09.94\00:29:13.16
It says "For
evildoers will be cut off,
00:29:13.19\00:29:16.26
but those who wait for the Lord,
00:29:16.29\00:29:17.66
they will inherit the land.
00:29:17.69\00:29:19.61
He had a little while
00:29:19.64\00:29:20.69
and the wicked
man will be no more.
00:29:20.72\00:29:23.11
And you will look
carefully for his place.
00:29:23.14\00:29:25.38
And there you will find
him right in the anguish
00:29:25.41\00:29:28.29
and pain through
the ages of eternity."
00:29:28.32\00:29:31.83
You will let me
get away with that.
00:29:36.03\00:29:39.24
Now come on, I
was testing you out.
00:29:39.27\00:29:42.71
I told you just last night
don't you take anybodies word
00:29:42.74\00:29:45.51
no matter how slick,
00:29:45.54\00:29:47.00
no matter how educated
they may seem to be, you know.
00:29:47.03\00:29:51.10
Okay, I steer my
way to pass the course
00:29:51.13\00:29:55.01
but anyway remember next sides
00:29:55.04\00:29:57.47
don't let anybody to
get away with that kind
00:29:57.50\00:29:59.21
of interpretation of the Bible.
00:29:59.24\00:30:00.53
Now that's Psalm what it says.
00:30:00.56\00:30:01.99
"You will look
carefully for his place
00:30:02.02\00:30:04.06
and he will not be there."
00:30:04.09\00:30:06.82
Verse 20 "But the
wicked will perish
00:30:06.85\00:30:11.75
and the enemies of
the Lord will be like
00:30:11.78\00:30:13.41
the glory of the pasture.
00:30:13.44\00:30:15.13
They vanish like smoke."
00:30:15.16\00:30:18.35
Again whenever you
burn up organic material
00:30:18.38\00:30:22.01
you got smoke and
you end up with ashes.
00:30:22.04\00:30:24.67
They vanish is
the word like smoke
00:30:24.70\00:30:28.18
they vanish away is
what the Bible teaches.
00:30:28.21\00:30:33.68
And so let's
add that to our list
00:30:33.71\00:30:35.20
they're going to be cut off.
00:30:35.23\00:30:37.02
Isaiah 53 in
reference to the death of Jesus.
00:30:37.05\00:30:40.66
The term is he was cut
off from the land of living
00:30:40.69\00:30:43.34
and so the
reference to it death.
00:30:43.37\00:30:45.76
And the Bible says here
there are going to perish.
00:30:45.79\00:30:48.07
The wicked will perish
they're going to vanish.
00:30:48.10\00:30:51.92
That's what the Bible says.
00:30:51.95\00:30:53.60
And then
Zephaniah 1:18 on the screen
00:30:53.63\00:30:56.31
it says "And all the earth
00:30:56.34\00:30:57.90
will be devoured in
the fire of His jealousy,
00:30:57.93\00:31:01.89
for He will
make" what kind of end?
00:31:01.92\00:31:04.76
"A complete end,
indeed a terrifying one,
00:31:04.79\00:31:08.41
of all the
inhabitants of the earth."
00:31:08.44\00:31:11.90
But a complete end it
will be is what the Bible says.
00:31:11.93\00:31:16.34
And so we are gonna
add that to the list.
00:31:16.37\00:31:18.65
Now you notice now
00:31:18.68\00:31:19.71
we've gone beyond the
first two or three verses.
00:31:19.74\00:31:23.08
Now, we are adding
verse after verse after verse.
00:31:23.11\00:31:26.84
Old Testament we
are gonna find again
00:31:26.87\00:31:28.86
the New Testament is imperfect,
00:31:28.89\00:31:30.86
perfect agreement with
what we are finding here.
00:31:30.89\00:31:33.08
In Romans 6 and
looking at verse 23,
00:31:33.11\00:31:38.17
Romans 6:23
00:31:38.20\00:31:40.31
A text that most of us
are pretty well familiar with.
00:31:40.34\00:31:43.38
And it reads this.
00:31:43.41\00:31:44.44
"For the wages of
sin" is what? Death.
00:31:44.47\00:31:49.99
Death, death
eternal torment in hell
00:31:50.02\00:31:54.05
is that the same
or are they different.
00:31:54.08\00:31:58.37
Death is that dead--
00:31:58.40\00:32:01.33
anyway I want to be
thinking about this.
00:32:01.36\00:32:04.12
The wages of sin is death.
00:32:04.15\00:32:06.47
It goes on to say "but the
free gift of God." Is what?
00:32:06.50\00:32:12.16
"Eternal life."
00:32:12.19\00:32:13.65
I got a question for you
00:32:13.68\00:32:15.56
who is it that
gets eternal life?
00:32:15.59\00:32:18.78
Who is it?
00:32:18.81\00:32:21.21
God, do we all
agree its God s people
00:32:21.24\00:32:23.77
that receive the
gift of eternal life
00:32:23.80\00:32:25.45
through Jesus Christ our Lord.
00:32:25.48\00:32:27.10
How many of you
would agree with that?
00:32:27.13\00:32:30.17
How many you think based
on what we find in the Bible
00:32:30.20\00:32:33.89
that the wicked
get eternal life?
00:32:33.92\00:32:36.67
May I see your hands.
00:32:36.70\00:32:39.62
You are sure about this.
00:32:39.65\00:32:42.19
You see the
traditional teaching about hell
00:32:42.22\00:32:44.34
never ending suffering has given
to the wicked eternal life,
00:32:44.37\00:32:50.23
Absolutely.
00:32:50.26\00:32:52.23
Yes under the most
miserable of circumstances
00:32:52.26\00:32:54.89
but somehow miraculously
00:32:54.92\00:32:57.54
they have been given
eternal life, have they not?
00:32:57.57\00:33:01.47
But my friend, that is
contrary to what the text says.
00:33:01.50\00:33:05.22
The wages of sin is death.
00:33:05.25\00:33:07.64
The gift of God is eternal life
through Jesus Christ our Lord
00:33:07.67\00:33:10.89
and so I believe we ought to
add the word "Death" up there.
00:33:10.92\00:33:14.11
How about you?
00:33:14.14\00:33:16.15
It seems concessive
with every other word
00:33:16.18\00:33:18.12
that we found in the Bible.
00:33:18.15\00:33:20.14
It surely does.
00:33:20.17\00:33:21.69
So at this point having
gone through so many texts
00:33:21.72\00:33:25.93
I would imagine
we are to at least be
00:33:25.96\00:33:28.32
asking ourselves a question,
00:33:28.35\00:33:29.70
if indeed the Bible is so
clear about this as we have seen
00:33:29.73\00:33:33.35
in the passages up to this point
00:33:33.38\00:33:35.56
then how is it
that we find that much
00:33:35.59\00:33:39.35
in the most of
the Christian world
00:33:39.38\00:33:41.57
is teaching how as an
eternal place of torment.
00:33:41.60\00:33:46.43
What's going on?
00:33:46.46\00:33:48.74
I have two observations to make.
00:33:48.77\00:33:51.35
Number one, in general
00:33:51.38\00:33:53.68
we really are not
studying the Bibles
00:33:53.71\00:33:55.38
close on some of these issues
as we really are to be doing.
00:33:55.41\00:33:59.21
We were taught this,
00:33:59.24\00:34:01.24
we heard this being
preached in the church
00:34:01.27\00:34:05.27
but in reality
probably most of us
00:34:05.30\00:34:09.53
have never really actually
got down into the nitty-gritty
00:34:09.56\00:34:12.70
of what the Bible actually
states about these things.
00:34:12.73\00:34:16.38
Yes, certainly a casual,
00:34:16.41\00:34:18.37
casual look at this
thing of hell the first text
00:34:18.40\00:34:21.89
for instance
that I share with you,
00:34:21.92\00:34:23.22
"They shall be in
torment forever and ever."
00:34:23.25\00:34:26.33
Just and so for our
consideration that in isolation
00:34:26.36\00:34:30.07
without
considering the other text
00:34:30.10\00:34:31.79
I've referred to
the fate of the wicked
00:34:31.82\00:34:33.31
would kind of lend
itself to that idea.
00:34:33.34\00:34:35.70
But again we never
take a text in isolation
00:34:35.73\00:34:39.11
that is not good
biblical exegesis.
00:34:39.14\00:34:42.35
We get as much as we
can out of the given text
00:34:42.38\00:34:45.11
but then as we had
been doing in the meetings
00:34:45.14\00:34:47.16
we take all of the light
and I mean we can't cover it all
00:34:47.19\00:34:50.50
even than an hour we
take all of the light
00:34:50.53\00:34:53.67
and we put the
whole picture together.
00:34:53.70\00:34:57.76
That's how we allow the
Bible to interpret itself.
00:34:57.79\00:35:02.05
So there has been as careful
00:35:02.08\00:35:04.78
a consideration what
the Bible actually teaches.
00:35:04.81\00:35:07.72
It's not been the
only issue as you know.
00:35:07.75\00:35:10.78
The other thing is, if you
begin with the wrong premise
00:35:10.81\00:35:17.03
you end up with
the wrong conclusion
00:35:17.06\00:35:19.44
and that's exactly
what's going on here.
00:35:19.47\00:35:22.44
The premise, the wrong premise,
00:35:22.47\00:35:25.17
the wrong premise is and
most of the Christian world
00:35:25.20\00:35:27.57
does embrace this is
that the soul is immortal
00:35:27.60\00:35:31.29
which means it
is indestructible,
00:35:31.32\00:35:35.41
which means, that
when the wicked are thrown
00:35:35.44\00:35:37.23
into the hell
they're never going to die,
00:35:37.26\00:35:40.93
because their souls cannot die.
00:35:40.96\00:35:43.74
So wrong
premise, wrong conclusion.
00:35:43.77\00:35:47.20
Right premise, right conclusion.
00:35:47.23\00:35:50.44
And what is the right premise?
00:35:50.47\00:35:52.31
The Bible teaches
the soul will die.
00:35:52.34\00:35:56.80
Gave you two texts on that,
00:35:56.83\00:35:58.07
one in the Old Testament,
one New Testament, Ezekiel 18,
00:35:58.10\00:36:01.48
the Old Testament page 600,
00:36:01.51\00:36:03.58
that's exactly
00:36:03.61\00:36:07.78
and its actually a
pagan idea in addition,
00:36:07.81\00:36:11.01
you know, the immortality soul
00:36:11.04\00:36:12.27
came out of mysticism, paganism
00:36:12.30\00:36:15.09
and so it is with hell.
00:36:15.12\00:36:20.96
This traditional idea of hell
really comes out of paganism.
00:36:20.99\00:36:24.36
Ezekiel 18:4 where God says
"Behold, all souls are mine;
00:36:24.39\00:36:29.34
the soul of the father as well
as the soul of the son is mine:
00:36:29.37\00:36:32.51
the soul who sins shall die."
00:36:32.54\00:36:37.34
That is not immortality.
00:36:37.37\00:36:39.55
Immortality comes to
us through Jesus Christ
00:36:39.58\00:36:42.54
and is bestowed upon us
00:36:42.57\00:36:45.70
according to 1
Corinthians 15:51-55
00:36:45.73\00:36:49.83
at the resurrection morning
00:36:49.86\00:36:52.62
when this mortal shall
put on the immortality.
00:36:52.65\00:36:55.24
Remember, that in a moment
in the twinkling of an eye,
00:36:55.27\00:36:57.57
at the last trumpet
the dead shall be raised
00:36:57.60\00:37:00.46
this corruptible must be
put on the incorruptible,
00:37:00.49\00:37:03.01
this mortal must
put on the immortal
00:37:03.04\00:37:05.41
and it says we shall be changed.
00:37:05.44\00:37:08.30
That all happens in
the resurrection morning
00:37:08.33\00:37:10.62
that immortality
is bestowed upon us.
00:37:10.65\00:37:13.62
We are not immortal beings,
short of the coming of Jesus.
00:37:13.65\00:37:19.66
For if you notice
even Christians do die,
00:37:19.69\00:37:24.42
the first death.
00:37:24.45\00:37:27.74
But as I said there is
another statement that--
00:37:27.77\00:37:31.19
there is more than that but
I am gonna share one another
00:37:31.22\00:37:33.46
this one in the New Testament.
00:37:33.49\00:37:34.83
It is the statement
of Jesus in this regard
00:37:34.86\00:37:39.36
and its Matthew 10:28
the New Testament page eight.
00:37:39.39\00:37:46.45
And by the way I guess we
should add that to the list.
00:37:46.48\00:37:49.02
The soul is going to die.
00:37:49.05\00:37:51.60
Well, let's add
the weight of evidence
00:37:51.63\00:37:54.09
from the statement of Jesus.
00:37:54.12\00:37:56.47
Okay, I hear you
turning your Bibles
00:37:56.50\00:37:58.93
that is a beautiful sound.
00:37:58.96\00:38:01.16
And Jesus makes this
statement right here.
00:38:01.19\00:38:03.81
Matthew 10:28 "Do not fear those
00:38:03.84\00:38:06.41
who kill the body but
are unable to kill the soul;
00:38:06.44\00:38:09.40
but rather fear Him who is able
00:38:09.43\00:38:12.93
to destroy both soul and body"
00:38:12.96\00:38:16.74
where? "In hell."
00:38:16.77\00:38:20.33
And who made
this statement? Jesus.
00:38:20.36\00:38:23.83
Both soul and body are gonna be
00:38:23.86\00:38:25.54
destroyed in
hell is what He says.
00:38:25.57\00:38:27.94
You know, in the
evangelical world
00:38:27.97\00:38:30.28
in the last some
years 10-15 years
00:38:30.31\00:38:32.73
there has been a reexamination
00:38:32.76\00:38:35.04
and reconsideration on this
traditional teaching about hell.
00:38:35.07\00:38:40.92
And there's been a
couple of interesting
00:38:40.95\00:38:42.97
and fascinating books
that have been produced
00:38:43.00\00:38:44.86
out of this new scholarship.
00:38:44.89\00:38:47.07
This was reported
initially in the US news
00:38:47.10\00:38:49.79
and world report it
is the book entitle,
00:38:49.82\00:38:53.44
Hell a Pagan Doctrine and this
is what is says is Philip Hughes
00:38:53.47\00:38:58.91
who is the scholar
that wrote this book.
00:38:58.94\00:39:02.22
And by the way Philip
Hughes a long term scholar
00:39:02.25\00:39:06.17
in the area of
theology thought it was time
00:39:06.20\00:39:09.97
for us to have an updated
book on the issue of hell.
00:39:10.00\00:39:14.87
So he begins his
research in the Bible.
00:39:14.90\00:39:19.17
And, you know,
when you do research
00:39:19.20\00:39:20.73
you are supposed to put aside
you preconceived ideas, right.
00:39:20.76\00:39:25.49
But he began to
look at the text.
00:39:25.52\00:39:27.77
He began to line them
up and he was taken back
00:39:27.80\00:39:33.44
by what he was
beginning to find in the Bible
00:39:33.47\00:39:36.48
contrary to what he had
understood and then taught.
00:39:36.51\00:39:40.16
And he finally wrote his book
and this is what it says here.
00:39:40.19\00:39:43.92
And Philip Hughes argues that
00:39:43.95\00:39:45.58
"The traditional believe
in the unending punishment
00:39:45.61\00:39:49.45
is linked to
the erroneous belief
00:39:49.48\00:39:52.00
in the innate
immortality of the soul.
00:39:52.03\00:39:54.81
A belief that he says
that is based more on Plato
00:39:54.84\00:39:57.52
than on the Bible.
00:39:57.55\00:39:59.24
The immortality which
the Christian is assured
00:39:59.27\00:40:01.62
is not inherent in himself."
00:40:01.65\00:40:03.70
As we have already noted it's
bestowed at the coming of Jesus.
00:40:03.73\00:40:06.96
"Or in his soul but is
bestowed by God" says Hughes.
00:40:06.99\00:40:12.74
Edward Fudge, additionally
has been a recent scholar that
00:40:12.77\00:40:17.37
has revisited this whole issue
00:40:17.40\00:40:19.92
and again in the
evangelical world.
00:40:19.95\00:40:22.40
And his book entitles
the "Fire That Consumes"
00:40:22.43\00:40:26.67
and he writes
"Eternal conscience torment
00:40:26.70\00:40:28.98
is either true or it is not.
00:40:29.01\00:40:31.60
God's word gives the
only authoritative answers
00:40:31.63\00:40:36.48
and everyone said Amen.
00:40:36.51\00:40:39.70
Either it's in the
Bible or it's not true."
00:40:39.73\00:40:45.62
It doesn't matter how
many churches are teaching it
00:40:45.65\00:40:47.65
and it doesn't matter
00:40:47.68\00:40:48.71
how long that it has been taught
00:40:48.74\00:40:51.36
it's either
biblical or it is not.
00:40:51.39\00:40:54.43
Do you know my friend,
00:40:54.46\00:40:55.89
when we decide
00:40:55.92\00:40:57.55
that we are going
to sincerely go by
00:40:57.58\00:41:00.76
what the Bible teaches
00:41:00.79\00:41:01.88
and only what the Bible teaches
00:41:01.91\00:41:03.89
and we are willing to filter
out some of these teachings
00:41:03.92\00:41:07.17
and practices that
are out there based
00:41:07.20\00:41:09.47
on the clear
teachings of scripture
00:41:09.50\00:41:11.54
it really makes it a lot easier.
00:41:11.57\00:41:14.01
But see some of
this is embedded in us
00:41:14.04\00:41:16.67
because this is what
we have always known.
00:41:16.70\00:41:18.58
This has been part
of our past experience.
00:41:18.61\00:41:21.19
May be you have
had a beloved pastor
00:41:21.22\00:41:22.61
that really could
preach out hot message on hell
00:41:22.64\00:41:25.22
and you know we have
got all of this history
00:41:25.25\00:41:27.65
and all of this
history with the church may be
00:41:27.68\00:41:29.81
where you know we,
00:41:29.84\00:41:31.37
we've learned these things
00:41:31.40\00:41:32.43
from when we were
just a little baby.
00:41:32.46\00:41:34.05
And may be we-- you know,
may be we are even threatened.
00:41:34.08\00:41:37.86
You know, your
better behave yourself.
00:41:37.89\00:41:40.60
You don't want to burn
in hell for ever, do you?
00:41:40.63\00:41:43.11
That kind of stuff-- we
heard all that of kind of stuff
00:41:43.14\00:41:45.66
you know growing up.
00:41:45.69\00:41:48.32
And so you know so
we are sorting through
00:41:48.35\00:41:51.99
what was very
familiar territory to us
00:41:52.02\00:41:54.27
and what we thought
we clearly understood
00:41:54.30\00:41:57.09
and now we are here tonight.
00:41:57.12\00:41:59.84
And we got somebody
up here opening Bible
00:41:59.87\00:42:02.26
we are going from text to text
00:42:02.29\00:42:03.46
and that's what not
why we are here in here
00:42:03.49\00:42:06.41
and that's not what we
are finding in the Bible.
00:42:06.44\00:42:10.17
And so, may be some of us
in a little bit of dilemma.
00:42:10.20\00:42:14.76
So what is the real truth?
00:42:14.79\00:42:17.81
And my friend, we can say
with that which is familiar
00:42:17.84\00:42:20.20
which we have
grown accustomed to.
00:42:20.23\00:42:22.88
What we have
believed or in the honesty
00:42:22.91\00:42:26.05
of our commitment to Jesus.
00:42:26.08\00:42:28.19
We can say hey, Lord Jesus,
00:42:28.22\00:42:30.35
I am still learner
00:42:30.38\00:42:31.86
and I am willing
to on learn something
00:42:31.89\00:42:34.50
that I didn't get
right the first around
00:42:34.53\00:42:37.45
because I value the truth.
00:42:37.48\00:42:40.36
I value what the Bible teaches.
00:42:40.39\00:42:43.20
And my friend, remember
that's our first loyalty.
00:42:43.23\00:42:45.88
It's not to the church,
00:42:45.91\00:42:47.21
it's not to like the church
teaches outside of the Bible
00:42:47.24\00:42:50.50
it's to what the Bible teaches.
00:42:50.53\00:42:52.87
Oh, anyway, I am preaching well,
00:42:52.90\00:42:55.07
I think it applies, doesn't it.
00:42:55.10\00:42:57.08
Now, anyway we got
off on where he said
00:42:57.11\00:42:59.84
"God's word gives the
only authoritative answers
00:42:59.87\00:43:03.07
we will rare on the
traditionalist view."
00:43:03.10\00:43:06.93
Most of us were "We accepted it
00:43:06.96\00:43:09.33
because it was
said to us on the Bible.
00:43:09.36\00:43:13.01
And more careful study has shown
00:43:13.04\00:43:15.07
that we were
mistaken in that assumption."
00:43:15.10\00:43:19.23
And my friend, we
have been mistaken
00:43:19.26\00:43:21.21
in the Christian
world about this.
00:43:21.24\00:43:23.18
And this is not some side issue
00:43:23.21\00:43:24.91
this goes right to the heart of
00:43:24.94\00:43:26.53
what kind of God is
that we serve anyway?
00:43:26.56\00:43:31.53
I mean anybody else
that will put somebody
00:43:31.56\00:43:33.96
into the fires of hell
00:43:33.99\00:43:35.95
and keep them
there without release
00:43:35.98\00:43:38.99
we will say--
00:43:39.02\00:43:41.21
I mean that's
torture, that's evil.
00:43:41.24\00:43:46.32
If anybody else
had that capability
00:43:46.35\00:43:47.95
and did it, wouldn't we.
00:43:47.98\00:43:51.16
We've heard of all things
00:43:51.19\00:43:52.22
that people have
done to torture people
00:43:52.25\00:43:53.68
but you know to me this would
be the most awful of them all.
00:43:53.71\00:43:57.70
I was doing a series in
Bozeman, Montana years ago,
00:43:57.73\00:44:02.17
and a young woman a Christian
00:44:02.20\00:44:03.36
that was coming mother, married,
00:44:03.39\00:44:05.75
her husband worked on
a dairy farm in the area.
00:44:05.78\00:44:10.61
And I remember when
we came to this subject
00:44:10.64\00:44:13.60
I was that bidding farewell
to the people at the door
00:44:13.63\00:44:16.48
as I usually to do
as they were leaving
00:44:16.51\00:44:18.83
and she came by and I could see
00:44:18.86\00:44:21.42
that she was in deep thought.
00:44:21.45\00:44:24.03
And so I entered in
conversation with her
00:44:24.06\00:44:26.03
and she was--
00:44:26.06\00:44:27.79
she was kind of
struggling with this.
00:44:27.82\00:44:30.70
And so I begin to go
through review remember
00:44:30.73\00:44:34.34
that text we looked that,
00:44:34.37\00:44:35.45
remember what it
said. She said yeah.
00:44:35.48\00:44:36.83
I remember that
and I saw that at that
00:44:36.86\00:44:39.21
and yet there was something
there was something there.
00:44:39.24\00:44:42.36
And somehow as we
were in the conversation
00:44:42.39\00:44:44.62
she began to recall
the occasion of which
00:44:44.65\00:44:48.44
she made her
initial commitment to Jesus.
00:44:48.47\00:44:52.01
She remembered it
was a Sunday morning
00:44:52.04\00:44:53.77
she was in church
00:44:53.80\00:44:55.78
and she remembered
00:44:55.81\00:44:56.84
that the pastor on that occasion
00:44:56.87\00:44:58.29
was preaching on hell,
00:44:58.32\00:45:00.52
the traditionalist view.
00:45:00.55\00:45:04.01
Preaching on hell and
then he made altar call.
00:45:04.04\00:45:08.18
And it was at that
point she came forward
00:45:08.21\00:45:10.17
and gave her heart to Jesus.
00:45:10.20\00:45:12.37
When she recalled
that that immediately
00:45:12.40\00:45:14.73
she saw what
was going on she saw
00:45:14.76\00:45:16.86
that it was so wrapped in
her initial response to Jesus
00:45:16.89\00:45:20.68
that that was an
emotional issue for her.
00:45:20.71\00:45:24.12
And when she recognized
00:45:24.15\00:45:25.49
that she was
able to let go of that
00:45:25.52\00:45:27.68
and accept what
the Bible teaches.
00:45:27.71\00:45:29.78
And you know, I have
found this often be true.
00:45:29.81\00:45:32.29
You cannot expect of individuals
00:45:32.32\00:45:34.50
and let me tell you those of us
00:45:34.53\00:45:36.01
we are all learners, right.
00:45:36.04\00:45:37.54
We are learning,
I am still learning,
00:45:37.57\00:45:39.72
Gill still learning
and you are still learning.
00:45:39.75\00:45:41.92
And I do know in the process
00:45:41.95\00:45:43.40
when we're relearning something
00:45:43.43\00:45:45.89
and particularly if
it's fundamentally opposite
00:45:45.92\00:45:48.16
to what we have
understood there is a process.
00:45:48.19\00:45:51.04
And sometimes there
is an emotional side
00:45:51.07\00:45:52.94
to that process, right.
00:45:52.97\00:45:56.10
And so I want to recognize that.
00:45:56.13\00:45:58.07
Whatever it is
whether it was the subject
00:45:58.10\00:45:59.63
that might happens when
it you die on Friday night,
00:45:59.66\00:46:01.61
whether it's the
Sabbath whatever, it is.
00:46:01.64\00:46:05.55
You know, recognize
there's an emotional issue
00:46:05.58\00:46:08.81
there's a whole history
00:46:08.84\00:46:11.73
that we bring to the table
00:46:11.76\00:46:13.08
when we study these things.
00:46:13.11\00:46:14.58
We have to look at how
is that history affect,
00:46:14.61\00:46:16.94
how I am
considering what I am reading.
00:46:16.97\00:46:19.99
What emotions are playing into
00:46:20.02\00:46:22.41
what I am
discovering in God's word?
00:46:22.44\00:46:25.00
And if we neglect,
00:46:25.03\00:46:26.41
I-- you know I had to be
in the ministry for a while
00:46:26.44\00:46:28.71
before I
understood that part of it.
00:46:28.74\00:46:30.31
I just thought just
preach the word its there,
00:46:30.34\00:46:32.46
its clear people will
see it, they will accept it.
00:46:32.49\00:46:36.18
But there's other side
of it as I just mentioned.
00:46:36.21\00:46:40.32
So if you are processing
this continue to process it
00:46:40.35\00:46:43.66
through keep looking
what the Bible teaches
00:46:43.69\00:46:45.47
but start putting
together you know what it is?
00:46:45.50\00:46:48.10
What isn't about it?
00:46:48.13\00:46:50.77
Let me share
with you Matthew 13.
00:46:50.80\00:46:52.98
So does hell
burned it right now?
00:46:53.01\00:46:54.83
Is it burning now, future?
00:46:54.86\00:46:57.60
The New Testament page
11, page 11, Matthew 13:37.
00:46:57.63\00:47:04.34
Matthew 13
00:47:04.37\00:47:07.93
and this is the
parable, the wheat and tares.
00:47:07.96\00:47:10.19
So Jesus is explaining
the parable here in verse 37.
00:47:10.22\00:47:14.15
And He said "The one who sows
the good seed is the Son of Man.
00:47:14.18\00:47:18.77
and the field is the world;
00:47:18.80\00:47:20.18
and as for the good seed,
00:47:20.21\00:47:21.36
these are the
sons of the kingdom;
00:47:21.39\00:47:23.16
and the tares are the
sons of the evil one,"
00:47:23.19\00:47:25.64
the wicked and the enemy
00:47:25.67\00:47:27.30
who sowed them is the devil,
00:47:27.33\00:47:29.43
and the harvest is
the end of the age;
00:47:29.46\00:47:31.84
and the reapers are angels.
00:47:31.87\00:47:33.40
So just as the
tares are gathered up
00:47:33.43\00:47:36.04
and burned with fire,
00:47:36.07\00:47:38.40
so shall it be
00:47:38.43\00:47:41.86
at the end of the age."
00:47:41.89\00:47:47.29
King James says
"the end of the world."
00:47:47.32\00:47:49.62
When shall it be?
00:47:49.65\00:47:52.53
At the end, not now.
00:47:52.56\00:47:56.14
Again, wrong
premise, wrong conclusion.
00:47:56.17\00:47:59.76
Believing in, if one believes
in the immortality the soul
00:47:59.79\00:48:03.30
when one dies you got
to put the soul somewhere.
00:48:03.33\00:48:06.62
And, you know,
what you are gonna do
00:48:06.65\00:48:07.74
with the souls
of the God's people,
00:48:07.77\00:48:08.88
you send them
straight to heaven.
00:48:08.91\00:48:10.33
You know what you are gonna
do with the souls of the wicked,
00:48:10.36\00:48:12.08
you're gonna send them
straight down the hell.
00:48:12.11\00:48:15.02
In spite of the
fact that as we see here
00:48:15.05\00:48:17.28
the Bible indicates hell
does not burn until the end.
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It's not now and if
some of us have come
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from a Roman
Catholic background Episcopal,
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you know orthodox
this is kind of embedded
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in our thinking this
is pretty foundational
00:48:32.76\00:48:35.62
to our whole
view of the after life
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and what we
could except the death
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and everything
else placed into it.
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Let's add to it
in Revelation 20,
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the New Testament page 200,
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page 200 Revelation 20
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and we are gonna be
looking verses 13-15.
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Coming back to
Revelation 20, remember,
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we already taken note
that the wicked are resurrected
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at the end of
the thousand years.
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Satan,
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you know, organizes
them into this vast army
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verse 9 says "they
will go up against the city.
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And fire comes down from
heaven and devours them."
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As we come to
verse 13, through 15.
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Remember Jesus said "They
are going to be resurrected
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for the purpose of judgment."
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So there's got be judgment
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somewhere in
this process, right.
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And this is what we
find in verse 13 and onward.
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" And the sea gave up
the dead which were in it,"
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that's resurrection "And Hades."
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That is the
grave "gave up the dead
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which were in them,
and they were judged,
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every one of them
according to their deeds.
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Then in death and Hades" grave "
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where thrown into
the lake of fire."
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This is hell, we went
through this on the millennium
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I did not identify
the lake of fire as hell.
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But somebody here
was asking the question
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in regards to
what's the lake of fire
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and etcetera and
I really put you all
00:49:47.51\00:49:49.45
because I was
ready to talk about it.
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I am tonight.
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"Death and the grave were
thrown into the lake of fire.
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This is," How does the
Bible describe the second death?
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They die.
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"The lake of fire.
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And if anyone's
name was not found
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written in the book of life,
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he was thrown
into the lake of fire."
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Is what it says.
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It's at the end
of the thousand years
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after the
wicked were resurrected
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after their judgment.
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And they died the second death.
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They die.
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Then verse-- forget
the chapter division
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go to the next verse
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"Then I saw" John says
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"a new heaven and a new
earth for the first heaven
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and the first
earth passed away."
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How did that happen
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that the first
earth passed away?
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Hell, the lake of fire
consumed it and wicked.
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And what does God
do? He starts over a new.
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He makes a new earth, right,
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and he will
populate that new earth.
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Paradise restored, right.
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God's people are
gonna inhabit that place.
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But see first earth is gone.
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Is this fitting
in little bit more,
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does this make more sense?
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Boy, it sure
does, a lot more sense.
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Isaiah 28:21 when
it talks about this--
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what's going to
happen to the wicked.
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It says "For the
Lord shall rise up
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that He may do His work,
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His strange work, and
bring to pass His act,
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His strange act."
00:51:23.55\00:51:24.71
But my friend, it
does seems strange
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because God we think of
God as the one who creates
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and the one who sustains life
00:51:31.53\00:51:33.90
not the one
that eliminates life.
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But my friend, sin has put God
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into this predicament
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and that is what's He gonna do
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about this thing of evil
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and in the end it's
got to be eliminated,
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and in the end it means
00:51:47.59\00:51:49.18
He gonna save His men as He can
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either, again we are going
to allow Jesus to bear our sins
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and its consequence
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or we'll have to
bear it ourselves.
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And by the way since
we are talking about hell
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and we are talking
about the second death,
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which of the two deaths
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do you think Jesus died
on the cross of cavalry,
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the first or the second death?
00:52:08.99\00:52:11.26
That may be real
new idea for you.
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Second death,
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because even
Christians die the first death
00:52:17.17\00:52:20.09
which seems
momentarily, just like a moment.
00:52:20.12\00:52:23.79
It's the second death
we must die we must not die
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because that is eternal.
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It's what the Bible tells us.
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So new heaven and the new earth
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and then after
creating a new heaven
00:52:31.73\00:52:33.55
and the new earth let's come
on down to the Revelation 21:4.
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Notice what it says.
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"And God will wipe away
every tear from their eyes,
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and there shall
be no more death,
00:52:41.34\00:52:43.85
nor sorrow, nor crying.
00:52:43.88\00:52:45.96
There shall be no more
pain," What's the word?
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"No more pain
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for the former
things have" what?
00:52:51.98\00:52:57.09
"Passed away." It's behind us.
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And my friends, if there
was a place of eternal torment
00:53:00.69\00:53:04.01
those words
could not possibly true
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because there would be
pain there will be a lot of pain
00:53:06.39\00:53:11.48
but you see God
makes it end of it.
00:53:11.51\00:53:13.94
Is that more
consistent with His love?
00:53:13.97\00:53:16.77
A loving God.
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Now listen
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and you know we
could talk about hell
00:53:20.51\00:53:21.71
in very and personal terms
00:53:21.74\00:53:22.83
but do you start
thinking of your friends,
00:53:22.86\00:53:24.70
you start
thinking of your family,
00:53:24.73\00:53:26.53
you start
thinking somebody close
00:53:26.56\00:53:27.91
you that doesn't make it?
00:53:27.94\00:53:29.97
You think about them
being in hell and you tell me
00:53:30.00\00:53:32.89
just do you know cerebral
can you get about this think.
00:53:32.92\00:53:36.57
This gets close at home.
00:53:36.60\00:53:38.01
This is gonna be off of the lose
00:53:38.04\00:53:39.41
somebody yet alone to consider.
00:53:39.44\00:53:42.13
May be a parent or
child or a dear friend,
00:53:42.16\00:53:45.29
a sister a brother
to think about the fact
00:53:45.32\00:53:48.38
that they are
gonna be in hell forever.
00:53:48.41\00:53:51.65
I mean that just makes
you cringe, doesn't' it.
00:53:51.68\00:53:54.84
It absolutely does.
00:53:54.87\00:53:56.07
This is much, so
much more consistent.
00:53:56.10\00:53:58.74
God makes a final end of it.
00:53:58.77\00:54:01.05
So whatever we discover
God has declared in His word
00:54:01.08\00:54:04.49
that wicked are
going to be consumed,
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they are going to be destroyed.
00:54:06.89\00:54:08.45
They will
experience eternal destructions
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what the Bible tells us.
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They are gonna be devoured
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just time and time again
they will be brought to ashes.
00:54:13.10\00:54:15.96
Be there will be no
more there will be cut off,
00:54:15.99\00:54:18.95
they will
perish, they will vanish,
00:54:18.98\00:54:21.41
they will be a complete
end will be made of them
00:54:21.44\00:54:23.45
is what the Bible says.
00:54:23.48\00:54:24.58
They are gonna die.
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In indeed the Bible teaches
the soul itself is going to die.
00:54:26.06\00:54:29.20
It's gonna be destroyed.
00:54:29.23\00:54:30.62
My friend, the
weight of evidence
00:54:30.65\00:54:32.01
is just overwhelmingly cleared
00:54:32.04\00:54:33.86
when you really get down to it.
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Now I am into my conclusion.
00:54:36.97\00:54:38.44
So how does God feel about this?
00:54:38.47\00:54:41.54
We are very egocentric,
you know, about issues.
00:54:41.57\00:54:45.55
We know always consider
how God feels about this.
00:54:45.58\00:54:48.20
But you know
this about the wicked.
00:54:48.23\00:54:51.19
They were His children too.
00:54:51.22\00:54:55.08
And it was for them
that Jesus came to die.
00:54:55.11\00:54:58.68
Not just for those who accepted
00:54:58.71\00:55:00.87
but Jesus was sent
to save them as well.
00:55:00.90\00:55:04.54
They had a choice in this.
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And I want to tell you
who loves them above all?
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He does.
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it says,
00:55:13.91\00:55:15.58
"The Lord is not
willing that any should perish
00:55:15.61\00:55:17.75
but that all should
come to repentance."
00:55:17.78\00:55:20.26
My friend He
doesn't want to lose at one
00:55:20.29\00:55:22.39
but he will not
compel, He will not force.
00:55:22.42\00:55:25.08
In Isaiah 55:7 he declares
"let the wicked forsake his way
00:55:25.11\00:55:28.70
and young
righteous man his thoughts
00:55:28.73\00:55:30.65
and let him return to the Lord
00:55:30.68\00:55:32.36
and he will have
compassion on him.
00:55:32.39\00:55:34.41
And to our God for he
will abundantly pardon."
00:55:34.44\00:55:37.83
My friend, you begin to get
00:55:37.86\00:55:38.95
the sense of the
heartbeat of Jesus
00:55:38.98\00:55:40.46
of God in all of
this, the longing,
00:55:40.49\00:55:42.72
beginning in the
sense of the longing
00:55:42.75\00:55:44.83
in the heart of God,
for His lost children.
00:55:44.86\00:55:50.28
you see it so clearly.
00:55:50.31\00:55:53.51
"Say to them, 'As I
live!' declares the Lord God,
00:55:53.54\00:55:56.33
'I take no pleasure in
the death of the wicked,
00:55:56.36\00:55:59.55
but rather that the wicked
turn from his way and live."
00:55:59.58\00:56:04.23
Turn back, turn
back from your evil ways.
00:56:04.26\00:56:07.73
Why then will you die,"
00:56:07.76\00:56:12.17
And then john 3:16 that
we will say all the time.
00:56:12.20\00:56:15.66
"For God so loved the world,
00:56:15.69\00:56:17.00
that He gave His
only begotten Son,
00:56:17.03\00:56:18.79
that whosoever believeth in Him,
00:56:18.82\00:56:20.72
should not perish, but
have everlasting life."
00:56:20.75\00:56:26.16
My friend, He
paid the ultimate price
00:56:26.19\00:56:27.59
so that we could be saved
00:56:27.62\00:56:29.57
for the consequences of our sin.
00:56:29.60\00:56:34.04
And that's why time goes on.
00:56:34.07\00:56:36.52
He is still in the
business of saving.
00:56:36.55\00:56:39.07
You know, what I am
sharing with you tonight
00:56:39.10\00:56:41.05
for the God's word
is the hardest hell
00:56:41.08\00:56:44.45
that you have
ever heard preached.
00:56:44.48\00:56:46.78
The traditionalist view on hell
00:56:46.81\00:56:48.84
preaches a hell that is not hard
enough to destroy the wicked.
00:56:48.87\00:56:53.38
But I am telling you the hell
00:56:53.41\00:56:54.88
that the Bible
teaches is hard enough
00:56:54.91\00:56:57.19
that it does destroy the wicked
00:56:57.22\00:57:00.61
and makes an end of it.
00:57:00.64\00:57:03.38
And again, I believe if
we're among God's people
00:57:03.41\00:57:06.44
when this all comes down
00:57:06.47\00:57:09.19
my friend, I believe
we are gonna see tears
00:57:09.22\00:57:11.98
coursing down to
the cheeks of Jesus.
00:57:12.01\00:57:15.72
I think He is gonna
be weeping over that.
00:57:15.75\00:57:19.33
You noticed in verse 4
00:57:19.36\00:57:22.97
where it says "He will
wipe all tears from their eyes."
00:57:23.00\00:57:25.44
It's after all
of this has happened
00:57:25.47\00:57:28.34
that He will wipe
the tears from our eyes.
00:57:28.37\00:57:31.26
Like a child that's
been comforted by parent
00:57:31.29\00:57:34.35
when they are grieving,
00:57:34.38\00:57:35.89
God is going to
comfort his people
00:57:35.92\00:57:38.85
because we too
have experienced loses
00:57:38.88\00:57:40.83
in all of this.
00:57:40.86\00:57:43.31
And He will comfort us
00:57:43.34\00:57:45.55
and He is gonna make
everything all right.
00:57:45.58\00:57:47.45
It's gonna be
all right, my friend.
00:57:47.48\00:57:49.95
God has a plan,
it's a plan of love.
00:57:49.98\00:57:53.48
He is doing everything He can,
00:57:53.51\00:57:55.54
and all we have
to say is, yes Lord.
00:57:55.57\00:57:59.31
We want to it
Your way, Your way.
00:57:59.34\00:58:01.59