As we look at the apostates, so we went through 00:00:34.12\00:00:36.96 all of the seven identifying characteristics. 00:00:36.99\00:00:39.30 Remember Revelation 13, 00:00:39.33\00:00:41.17 by which we identified the apostate system. 00:00:41.20\00:00:45.07 Well, it's fascinating 00:00:45.10\00:00:46.64 that in the Book of Revelation in particular that we also find 00:00:46.67\00:00:50.87 the identifying characteristics of God's people in the end time. 00:00:50.90\00:00:55.79 And that's what I want to review with you 00:00:55.82\00:00:57.93 before we really get into the heart of our study tonight. 00:00:57.96\00:01:00.88 So God's people in the end time are going to be noted for, 00:01:00.91\00:01:03.94 number one, their faith in Jesus Christ. 00:01:03.97\00:01:07.75 And we would expect that. Jesus is going to be central. 00:01:07.78\00:01:10.44 Jesus is going to be foundational 00:01:10.47\00:01:12.56 to their experience is what we find. 00:01:12.59\00:01:15.30 And number two, we discover from the word of God 00:01:15.33\00:01:18.35 that is particularly from the Book of Revelation. 00:01:18.38\00:01:21.58 It is mentioned specifically twice 00:01:21.61\00:01:23.91 in regards to God's people in the end time. 00:01:23.94\00:01:26.38 They will keep the Commandments of God. 00:01:26.41\00:01:30.02 Not just some of them, but by faith 00:01:30.05\00:01:32.90 through His grace they will seek to keep all ten of them, 00:01:32.93\00:01:37.31 which tells me that they are going to be 00:01:37.34\00:01:39.72 a Sabbath keeping people. 00:01:39.75\00:01:42.61 And number three, as we discover last night in our study 00:01:42.64\00:01:46.83 that God's people would emerge in the end time. 00:01:46.86\00:01:50.65 Out of that period of persecution 00:01:50.68\00:01:52.19 represented by the 1,260 years, 00:01:52.22\00:01:54.83 the earth would, help a woman, remember? 00:01:54.86\00:01:56.94 And they would emerge. 00:01:56.97\00:01:58.04 They would emerge out of oppression 00:01:58.07\00:01:59.84 and persecution in the old world. 00:01:59.87\00:02:01.96 And they would emerge here in the soil of the new world. 00:02:01.99\00:02:06.75 It would take right here, 00:02:06.78\00:02:08.18 and that's exactly what we found out 00:02:08.21\00:02:10.18 as I shared with you, 00:02:10.21\00:02:11.72 the beginnings of the advent moment, those early Adventists. 00:02:11.75\00:02:16.79 And it all began in the early 19th century, 00:02:16.82\00:02:19.09 right on time prophetically. 00:02:19.12\00:02:21.54 And what else did we learned about 00:02:21.57\00:02:23.15 God's people in the end time? 00:02:23.18\00:02:24.48 We also discover that as they emerge 00:02:24.51\00:02:28.89 that the Book of Daniel with his prophecies 00:02:28.92\00:02:31.92 would be unsealed. 00:02:31.95\00:02:33.88 And so that's what we would expect that 00:02:33.91\00:02:35.80 they would have a prophetic/biblical message. 00:02:35.83\00:02:41.04 And there will be a worldwide moment 00:02:41.07\00:02:43.29 because the gospel must go to the whole world 00:02:43.32\00:02:45.33 as a witness through all nations and then the end shall come. 00:02:45.36\00:02:48.71 And so it must be a worldwide moment. 00:02:48.74\00:02:52.72 And Adventists today are preaching this message 00:02:52.75\00:02:57.25 and are established in some 210 countries worldwide. 00:02:57.28\00:03:02.50 That is more than belongs to the United Nations. 00:03:02.53\00:03:06.49 And it is a worldwide moment. 00:03:06.52\00:03:10.23 And again, I would expect that, wouldn't you? 00:03:10.26\00:03:12.98 It's growing tremendously in places like Africa, 00:03:13.01\00:03:15.73 even in India, in some parts of the India, 00:03:15.76\00:03:18.26 Central and South America. 00:03:18.29\00:03:20.27 And, my friend, America is going to have its day. 00:03:20.30\00:03:23.06 At some point it's going to happen. 00:03:23.09\00:03:25.54 I really believe it because I know the prophecy speak of it. 00:03:25.57\00:03:29.32 And there's going to be something 00:03:29.35\00:03:30.59 that's going to disturb, 00:03:30.62\00:03:31.65 I think our sense of security at some point. 00:03:31.68\00:03:34.23 I don't know if it's just current situation, 00:03:34.26\00:03:37.52 I would not presume to make that assumption, 00:03:37.55\00:03:39.56 but at some point 00:03:39.59\00:03:40.62 it's going to be disturbed our sense of security. 00:03:40.65\00:03:45.91 And then the last thing that we discovered last night 00:03:45.94\00:03:48.27 is that they would have the testimony of Jesus. 00:03:48.30\00:03:50.83 So you got to line this up, if you are really interested 00:03:50.86\00:03:53.88 in being associated with God's people in the end time, 00:03:53.91\00:03:57.89 just line it up, starting with Jesus, 00:03:57.92\00:03:59.68 keeping the commandments et cetera, et cetera. 00:03:59.71\00:04:02.64 These are the things that 00:04:02.67\00:04:03.95 that ought to be present among God's people. 00:04:03.98\00:04:07.62 Now as I get into my subject tonight, 00:04:07.65\00:04:09.83 it is on the subject of prophecy, the prophetic word. 00:04:09.86\00:04:13.90 And the question is, will there be a re-emergence 00:04:13.93\00:04:17.35 of the prophetic gift before the coming of Jesus? 00:04:17.38\00:04:21.95 You have the question. 00:04:21.98\00:04:23.20 Will there be a re-emergence of the prophetic gift 00:04:23.23\00:04:25.76 before the coming of Jesus? 00:04:25.79\00:04:28.74 Which leads us to the whole question, why was-- 00:04:28.77\00:04:32.08 Why is the prophetic gift needed anyway? 00:04:32.11\00:04:36.16 Well, my friend, remember in the very beginning, 00:04:36.19\00:04:39.66 God had face to face communion with Adam and Eve. 00:04:39.69\00:04:44.13 That is what He designed life to be 00:04:44.16\00:04:48.77 or something that we would experience, 00:04:48.80\00:04:50.77 we would know God, we would have this privilege 00:04:50.80\00:04:53.92 of being able face to face to talk with God. 00:04:53.95\00:04:58.76 And that's a part of why there's just-- 00:04:58.79\00:05:02.39 If you think about, 00:05:02.42\00:05:03.45 there's just something within us that just is not right. 00:05:03.48\00:05:07.04 There's something that's missing. 00:05:07.07\00:05:10.06 And my friend, the thing that's missing, 00:05:10.09\00:05:12.23 is that the relationship has been broken. 00:05:12.26\00:05:15.77 That's what it really comes down to. 00:05:15.80\00:05:18.27 And I won't tell you people keep filling 00:05:18.30\00:05:19.94 that hole that, you know, that restlessness 00:05:19.97\00:05:22.86 that some go through with so many things, 00:05:22.89\00:05:25.63 and hopefully someday they discover 00:05:25.66\00:05:28.22 that all the time it was so close in hand, 00:05:28.25\00:05:31.91 there's a God that really love them 00:05:31.94\00:05:33.44 and really cares for them. 00:05:33.47\00:05:34.76 So why do we need the prophetic gift? 00:05:34.79\00:05:37.37 I said it the relationship was broken. 00:05:37.40\00:05:39.46 Isaiah 59:2 says, 00:05:39.49\00:05:41.43 "But your iniquities or sins 00:05:41.46\00:05:43.32 have separated you from your God." 00:05:43.35\00:05:46.05 The direct communion, the direct communication 00:05:46.08\00:05:48.97 between God and His people was broken because of sin. 00:05:49.00\00:05:52.85 And sin always does that. 00:05:52.88\00:05:54.02 Sin always separates us, doesn't it? 00:05:54.05\00:05:56.61 That's' the tendency of it. 00:05:56.64\00:05:58.62 It breaks down relationship is what sin does. 00:05:58.65\00:06:01.61 That's what so very deadly about it. 00:06:01.64\00:06:03.26 And relations are being broken down. 00:06:03.29\00:06:05.49 My friend, I mean, that leads us in a horrible state. 00:06:05.52\00:06:10.98 We're not complete and we're not whole 00:06:11.01\00:06:15.72 when the relationship has been broken down. 00:06:15.75\00:06:18.84 And the Gods in the-- 00:06:18.87\00:06:21.15 God has the purpose of repairing the broken relationship, 00:06:21.18\00:06:26.92 that's what He's all about, isn't He? 00:06:26.95\00:06:29.79 So the prophetic gift was given to operate 00:06:29.82\00:06:34.03 while we are in the state of separation. 00:06:34.06\00:06:38.26 It is God's ordain means of communicating His will to us. 00:06:38.29\00:06:42.28 It's what we find as we study the Bible. 00:06:42.31\00:06:44.38 So, you know, it's vital. 00:06:44.41\00:06:46.07 Take your Bibles and turn to 2 Peter 1, 00:06:46.10\00:06:48.45 the New Testament page 183, 183. 00:06:48.48\00:06:52.48 2 Peter 1 and looking at verse 21. 00:06:52.51\00:06:56.99 Back here towards the end of the New Testament 00:06:57.02\00:06:59.41 is where you are going to find 2 Peter. 00:06:59.44\00:07:01.99 And as I said it's Chapter 1 00:07:02.02\00:07:03.86 and if you move right on down the page, 00:07:03.89\00:07:05.55 you will find verse 21 where it says, 00:07:05.58\00:07:08.59 "For no prophecy was ever made by an act of human will." 00:07:08.62\00:07:15.23 Let me reassure you, 00:07:15.26\00:07:17.19 that when it came to the prophetic revelations 00:07:17.22\00:07:19.47 that we have contained in the word of God, 00:07:19.50\00:07:21.75 it goes on to say, 00:07:21.78\00:07:22.91 " But men moved by the Holy Spirit spoke from God." 00:07:22.94\00:07:29.83 The message comes from God. It was initiated by God. 00:07:29.86\00:07:33.95 And, my friend, the fact that there is harmony 00:07:33.98\00:07:37.36 from the very beginning of the book to the end 00:07:37.39\00:07:41.02 speaks of the divine power by which 00:07:41.05\00:07:44.42 the word of God was established, 00:07:44.45\00:07:48.33 and there is harmony, there is. 00:07:48.36\00:07:53.08 So and then I take you on to Ephesians 4:11 00:07:53.11\00:07:56.78 as we talk about some of the gifts of the Holy spirit, 00:07:56.81\00:07:59.76 it's speaking of Jesus when it says, 00:07:59.79\00:08:01.26 "And He gave some as apostles, and some as prophets, 00:08:01.29\00:08:06.29 and some as evangelists and some as pastors and teachers." 00:08:06.32\00:08:10.30 Please don't forget that one of the gifts 00:08:10.33\00:08:12.56 of the Holy Spirit that Jesus gave 00:08:12.59\00:08:14.61 was the gift of evangelist, not always, 00:08:14.64\00:08:18.27 not everyone considers us to be gifts to the church. 00:08:18.30\00:08:23.07 But I am focusing in on the gift of prophets. 00:08:23.10\00:08:28.38 And again Jesus gave these gifts, 00:08:28.41\00:08:31.20 so specifically the gift of prophecy, 00:08:31.23\00:08:33.42 the gift of prophets to operate in His absence. 00:08:33.45\00:08:37.98 Is that why He gave these gifts? 00:08:38.01\00:08:40.16 And, my friend, when we're united with Him, 00:08:40.19\00:08:41.91 we no longer will need these spiritual gifts. 00:08:41.94\00:08:45.39 Again the question is, is there any indication 00:08:45.42\00:08:48.04 that beyond the New Testament 00:08:48.07\00:08:49.31 that the prophetic gift would never rise again? 00:08:49.34\00:08:52.27 I just want you to be thinking about that. 00:08:52.30\00:08:54.97 But I want to as we further into our study, 00:08:55.00\00:08:57.21 I want to do a survey of how the prophetic gift 00:08:57.24\00:08:59.84 has operated in the past, under what circumstances, 00:08:59.87\00:09:03.28 under what historical conditions was the prophetic gift 00:09:03.31\00:09:06.47 operating in the past which will give us a clue 00:09:06.50\00:09:09.62 as we think about the prophetic gift 00:09:09.65\00:09:11.25 as it relates to the end times. 00:09:11.28\00:09:14.14 And, you know, I can just do this only briefly, 00:09:14.17\00:09:16.87 but I began with Noah. 00:09:16.90\00:09:19.14 Did Noah had the prophetic gift? 00:09:19.17\00:09:21.83 Did he receive revelations from God? 00:09:21.86\00:09:24.05 Did he, did he not? Yes, he did. 00:09:24.08\00:09:27.90 He received revelations that the world was coming to an end. 00:09:27.93\00:09:31.02 He was given instructions to build an ark 00:09:31.05\00:09:33.81 and he was given a message, it was a prophetic message 00:09:33.84\00:09:36.81 and he preached that for 120 years. 00:09:36.84\00:09:39.34 By the way, how successful was he? 00:09:39.37\00:09:41.97 Not very successful after 120 years only 00:09:42.00\00:09:44.84 eight, he did save his family. 00:09:44.87\00:09:46.80 That's worth something, isn't it? 00:09:46.83\00:09:49.87 I tell you, if I only save my family, I will save no one. 00:09:49.90\00:09:52.91 But you know what? We have ministry "Save No One." 00:09:52.94\00:09:57.93 It's Jesus that does the saving. 00:09:57.96\00:09:59.71 But anyway, you know, what I am saying here. 00:09:59.74\00:10:02.72 And so, you know, the message was 00:10:02.75\00:10:05.27 the antediluvian world was coming to an end 00:10:05.30\00:10:07.73 and so the prophetic gift was given. 00:10:07.76\00:10:09.63 God gave a warning. He gave an invitation. 00:10:09.66\00:10:13.77 And, my friend, He really longed. 00:10:13.80\00:10:15.54 He longed for them to repent. 00:10:15.57\00:10:18.08 He longed for them to survive, 00:10:18.11\00:10:20.86 but they had the choices like we do. 00:10:20.89\00:10:23.40 Could it be? 00:10:23.43\00:10:25.50 But in the end times, 00:10:25.53\00:10:27.19 knowing the world is going to come to an end 00:10:27.22\00:10:29.07 that Jesus is coming that in a similar fashion, 00:10:29.10\00:10:32.76 the prophetic gift would again be in operation. 00:10:32.79\00:10:36.96 Well, you may have some idea, 00:10:36.99\00:10:39.34 I maybe going somewhere with this. 00:10:39.37\00:10:41.36 And then I think of Moses. 00:10:41.39\00:10:42.84 Moses certainly had the prophetic gift. 00:10:42.87\00:10:44.81 The first five books of the Old Testament 00:10:44.84\00:10:46.72 were written by Moses and most agree 00:10:46.75\00:10:49.18 that he wrote the Book of Job. 00:10:49.21\00:10:52.14 And we think he was given the prophetic gift 00:10:52.17\00:10:54.90 as God was bringing His people out of Egyptian bondage 00:10:54.93\00:10:59.54 that Moses was the instrumentality 00:10:59.57\00:11:01.73 by which he was leading his people 00:11:01.76\00:11:03.68 through the wilderness of their wonderings 00:11:03.71\00:11:05.83 right up to the borders of Canaan, 00:11:05.86\00:11:09.54 The Promise Land. 00:11:09.57\00:11:12.12 And again, in a similar fashion 00:11:12.15\00:11:14.13 we too are in the wilderness of our wonderings 00:11:14.16\00:11:17.88 on this planet, aren't we? 00:11:17.91\00:11:19.97 And we are on the borders of the heavenly Canaan. 00:11:20.00\00:11:25.49 Are there parallels? 00:11:25.52\00:11:26.74 Is that point to the possibility of it in the end time? 00:11:26.77\00:11:30.77 And then I take of the prophet Elijah. 00:11:30.80\00:11:33.11 We've been talking about Elijah this weekend, haven't we? 00:11:33.14\00:11:35.65 Last night, this morning, 00:11:35.68\00:11:36.83 I was talking about Elijah and his message. 00:11:36.86\00:11:40.00 It was not a popular one. 00:11:40.03\00:11:41.88 Jeremiah, I think is another prophet. 00:11:41.91\00:11:43.66 His message-- You know, the people got hated it. 00:11:43.69\00:11:47.51 I tell you, at one point Jeremiah had its long ministry, 00:11:47.54\00:11:51.66 the people of God were in apostasy. 00:11:51.69\00:11:53.42 God said-- I want you to write down 00:11:53.45\00:11:54.68 all of the messages I've given you. 00:11:54.71\00:11:56.73 Look at Jeremiah. It's a long book. 00:11:56.76\00:12:00.27 And He said, put it in he hands of the king. 00:12:00.30\00:12:03.27 And it was being read to the king 00:12:03.30\00:12:05.37 and as it was being read page by page, 00:12:05.40\00:12:07.96 you know what that king was doing? 00:12:07.99\00:12:10.00 He was cutting it up, throwing it into the fire. 00:12:10.03\00:12:13.34 That's what he thought about those prophetic messages. 00:12:13.37\00:12:17.63 He held them in despair. 00:12:17.66\00:12:20.96 And now God said to Jeremiah, write it up again. 00:12:20.99\00:12:23.79 I mean, that was a task. 00:12:23.82\00:12:25.18 And this is by the way pre-computer 00:12:25.21\00:12:27.04 and word processing. 00:12:27.07\00:12:29.63 You know, that was all longhand 00:12:29.66\00:12:31.60 so he wrote it out again. 00:12:31.63\00:12:33.13 But we're taking about Elijah. 00:12:33.16\00:12:35.01 And his was not a popular message. 00:12:35.04\00:12:36.94 It was a message to his people who were locked in apostasy. 00:12:36.97\00:12:40.84 They've been hunting down the prophets to eliminate them. 00:12:40.87\00:12:44.31 They were trying to eliminate 00:12:44.34\00:12:45.48 the prophetic voice among them, it's tragic. 00:12:45.51\00:12:51.08 And, my friend, when we think about it, 00:12:51.11\00:12:53.81 the very fact that there's so much division 00:12:53.84\00:12:55.85 and confusion in the Christian world 00:12:55.88\00:12:57.94 does give some indication that something is wrong. 00:12:57.97\00:13:03.09 That on some level, there maybe 00:13:03.12\00:13:05.05 this represents some kind of apostasy that was so divided. 00:13:05.08\00:13:10.96 And then we can talk about the, you know, 00:13:10.99\00:13:12.80 the Major we talk about the Minor Prophets. 00:13:12.83\00:13:14.95 Minor in the sense that we only have, you know, like Joel. 00:13:14.98\00:13:18.28 It's not a long book that we have, 00:13:18.31\00:13:21.05 written by Joel and Amos, Hosea. 00:13:21.08\00:13:23.78 What is that 12 chapters or something. 00:13:23.81\00:13:27.29 You know all giving messages for God's people. 00:13:27.32\00:13:32.66 God was addressing, God was speaking to His people. 00:13:32.69\00:13:36.33 In the end times, do we need God to be speaking to us? 00:13:36.36\00:13:39.12 Now we do have the advantage 00:13:39.15\00:13:40.70 that we have the testimony of the prophets in the word of God. 00:13:40.73\00:13:44.78 We do, don't we? It's a wonderful advantage. 00:13:44.81\00:13:48.30 And then I moved into the New Testament 00:13:48.33\00:13:50.09 for John the Baptist had the prophetic message. 00:13:50.12\00:13:52.70 By the way, do we have one book 00:13:52.73\00:13:54.07 written by the Prophet John the Baptist? 00:13:54.10\00:13:59.08 No, not one book. 00:13:59.11\00:14:01.42 And but John, he did have the prophetic gift 00:14:01.45\00:14:04.76 in the sense that he had a prophetic message, didn't he? 00:14:04.79\00:14:08.34 And what was his message for his people 00:14:08.37\00:14:11.42 that were again locked in apostasy? 00:14:11.45\00:14:14.74 Repent. 00:14:14.77\00:14:16.38 And his purpose was to prepare the way 00:14:16.41\00:14:19.03 for the coming of Jesus in a similar way 00:14:19.06\00:14:23.50 as we anticipate the return of our Lord. 00:14:23.53\00:14:26.53 Could it be that there would be a prophetic message 00:14:26.56\00:14:29.56 that would at work, the prophetic gift 00:14:29.59\00:14:32.71 to prepare a people for the second return of Jesus? 00:14:32.74\00:14:37.68 What do you think? 00:14:37.71\00:14:38.74 Where do you think I'm heading with this? 00:14:38.77\00:14:40.70 Again I ask, do we have any indication that 00:14:40.73\00:14:43.10 the prophetic gift would end with the New Testament? 00:14:43.13\00:14:46.54 And if not, could it be that in the last days 00:14:46.57\00:14:49.33 in the time of the end 00:14:49.36\00:14:51.06 just before the coming of the Jesus 00:14:51.09\00:14:52.86 that the prophetic gift 00:14:52.89\00:14:53.98 would again be present among God's people. 00:14:54.01\00:14:58.41 Well, the Book of Revelation makes this prediction. 00:14:58.44\00:15:01.06 Look at Revelation 12, the New Testament page 195. 00:15:01.09\00:15:06.20 195, Revelation 12 and we're going to be looking at verse 17. 00:15:06.23\00:15:09.97 We were here just last night 00:15:10.00\00:15:11.53 for those of you who were with us. 00:15:11.56\00:15:14.12 And remember, Revelation 12 is describing 00:15:14.15\00:15:16.59 the people of God in a state of conflict, remember that? 00:15:16.62\00:15:19.66 I pointed out in verses 7 and 9 00:15:19.69\00:15:21.91 that it tells us that this conflict began in heaven. 00:15:21.94\00:15:26.97 But the conflict is being carried out upon this planet. 00:15:27.00\00:15:30.25 I share with you whenever we put ourselves 00:15:30.28\00:15:33.59 under the saving grace of Jesus, 00:15:33.62\00:15:35.79 we are setting ourselves up for conflict. 00:15:35.82\00:15:39.21 Conflict within, conflict without in the sense 00:15:39.24\00:15:42.93 that we are in conflict with the principle of evil, 00:15:42.96\00:15:47.48 if you can call evil a principle, okay. 00:15:47.51\00:15:52.37 And remember, we went through this. 00:15:52.40\00:15:53.95 The determination of the evil, 00:15:53.98\00:15:55.53 want to take them down to eliminate them. 00:15:55.56\00:15:58.50 Now God prepared a place for them. 00:15:58.53\00:16:00.11 He nourished them. They have to go in the hiding. 00:16:00.14\00:16:03.67 And how the earth hopped women? 00:16:03.70\00:16:05.18 Remember all of that and we talked about the new world 00:16:05.21\00:16:07.64 and how that, you know, it was all part of God's plan. 00:16:07.67\00:16:11.56 And then we looked at verse 17, verse 17 where it says, 00:16:11.59\00:16:17.07 "So the dragon was enraged with the woman 00:16:17.10\00:16:21.43 and went off to make war with rest of her children 00:16:21.46\00:16:23.96 who keep the commandments of God 00:16:23.99\00:16:25.71 and hold to the testimony of Jesus." 00:16:25.74\00:16:28.86 And again as I did last night, I'm going to share with you 00:16:28.89\00:16:31.13 the King James rendition of this where it says, 00:16:31.16\00:16:34.14 "And the dragon was wroth, he was angry with the woman, 00:16:34.17\00:16:36.46 and went to make war with the remnant." 00:16:36.49\00:16:38.44 Remember? I was wanting to underscore that idea. 00:16:38.47\00:16:41.41 "The remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, 00:16:41.44\00:16:44.35 and the testimony of Jesus Christ." 00:16:44.38\00:16:48.52 And there we have two specific, 00:16:48.55\00:16:51.34 clear identifying characteristics of God's people. 00:16:51.37\00:16:55.56 Keeping the commandments. 00:16:55.59\00:16:56.77 We already went through that, didn't we? 00:16:56.80\00:16:58.46 But they would have the testimony of Jesus. 00:16:58.49\00:17:00.48 But as we talk about the remnant 00:17:00.51\00:17:03.41 and represents God's people in that last remnant of time 00:17:03.44\00:17:08.21 that we call the last days. 00:17:08.24\00:17:10.55 So in the last days, 00:17:10.58\00:17:11.73 they will keep the commandments of God 00:17:11.76\00:17:13.32 and they will have the testimony of Jesus, 00:17:13.35\00:17:15.42 but what is this testimony of Jesus? 00:17:15.45\00:17:19.46 Jesus is speaking to us? 00:17:19.49\00:17:22.15 Jesus is testifying to us, is He? 00:17:22.18\00:17:26.83 And what is that really about? 00:17:26.86\00:17:28.25 Look at Revelation 19, the New Testament page 199, 00:17:28.28\00:17:32.16 comparing scripture with scripture. 00:17:32.19\00:17:33.99 Again taking, out of our concordances, 00:17:34.02\00:17:36.34 you know, to a good biblical study. 00:17:36.37\00:17:38.19 And for looking specifically at the testimony of Jesus, 00:17:38.22\00:17:40.54 we want to find out 00:17:40.57\00:17:41.81 if that is used in any other context, right? 00:17:41.84\00:17:44.71 That's how we use the Bible to interpret itself 00:17:44.74\00:17:46.83 and that's exactly how we can understand biblically 00:17:46.86\00:17:50.87 the true interpretation of what we are talking about. 00:17:50.90\00:17:53.45 In verse 10, we find that John is comforted with an angel. 00:17:53.48\00:17:56.26 It is an overwhelming experience to John. 00:17:56.29\00:17:59.58 For it says, 'Then I fell at his feet to worship him. 00:17:59.61\00:18:02.42 But he said to me, 'Do not do that, 00:18:02.45\00:18:04.73 I am a fellow servant of yours and your brother 00:18:04.76\00:18:07.14 who hold the testimony of Jesus. 00:18:07.17\00:18:10.78 Worship God! For the testimony of Jesus 00:18:10.81\00:18:14.02 is the Spirit of Prophecy.'" 00:18:14.05\00:18:19.44 That is just simply another way to refer to the prophetic gift. 00:18:19.47\00:18:25.02 And so you put these two verses together 00:18:25.05\00:18:28.00 and it speaks of God's remnant people 00:18:28.03\00:18:29.80 who keep the commandments of God, 00:18:29.83\00:18:31.30 having the testimony of Jesus or the Spirit of Prophecy, 00:18:31.33\00:18:35.55 the prophetic gift, it is clear that the Bible indicates 00:18:35.58\00:18:40.04 the prophetic gift would arise again in the end times. 00:18:40.07\00:18:46.89 And it makes sense, 00:18:46.92\00:18:47.95 if you go back to the survey, I shared with you. 00:18:47.98\00:18:50.59 As we looked at the particular historical settings 00:18:50.62\00:18:53.76 under which the prophetic gift has operated in the past. 00:18:53.79\00:18:56.62 And, my friend, if indeed as we believe the Bible teaches, 00:18:56.65\00:18:59.94 the end of time is at hand that Jesus is soon to come, 00:18:59.97\00:19:05.45 it only make sense 00:19:05.48\00:19:07.72 that the prophetic gift would again be in operation. 00:19:07.75\00:19:11.90 So let me introduce you to an individual 00:19:11.93\00:19:13.62 that I believe had the prophetic gift 00:19:13.65\00:19:15.68 in fulfillment of this prophecy of revelation. 00:19:15.71\00:19:19.45 I don't know if this is going to be a new name for you, 00:19:19.48\00:19:21.64 but her name was Ellen G. White. 00:19:21.67\00:19:25.55 I can tell you this. Her background was Methodist. 00:19:25.58\00:19:27.64 Her family were very dedicated Methodists. 00:19:27.67\00:19:30.34 They really loved the Lord. 00:19:30.37\00:19:32.25 And as a young girl when William Miller 00:19:32.28\00:19:34.68 came into her hometown and was preaching these novel 00:19:34.71\00:19:39.22 ideas of prophecy and end times, 00:19:39.25\00:19:43.33 end of the world then the coming of Jesus. 00:19:43.36\00:19:45.79 It was craving to stir in and she and her family were there. 00:19:45.82\00:19:50.94 And they listened to these preachings 00:19:50.97\00:19:52.92 from God's word and they embraced 00:19:52.95\00:19:55.29 the prophetic messages they were hearing. 00:19:55.32\00:19:57.74 They remained Methodist, but they embraced the message 00:19:57.77\00:20:03.02 and in time all of those people through those-- 00:20:03.05\00:20:05.99 They came to be known as those Advent believers 00:20:06.02\00:20:08.80 in the various churches, you know, 00:20:08.83\00:20:10.79 they were all through the established churches 00:20:10.82\00:20:14.43 who believe this message. 00:20:14.46\00:20:16.61 And that's the story itself how that, you know, 00:20:16.64\00:20:19.24 congealed in time into the advent moment, 00:20:19.27\00:20:23.10 the Adventist moment as it exist today, 00:20:23.13\00:20:25.47 but that's the origins of it. 00:20:25.50\00:20:26.81 So they were hearing these messages. 00:20:26.84\00:20:29.57 And let me tell you about Ellen White. 00:20:29.60\00:20:30.92 She was a woman that loved Jesus 00:20:30.95\00:20:33.94 dearly and looked with longing for His return. 00:20:33.97\00:20:39.85 In 1844, at 17 years of age. How old was she? 00:20:39.88\00:20:46.77 Seventeen years of age 00:20:46.80\00:20:48.05 she received her first revelation from God 00:20:48.08\00:20:53.33 that resulted in a 70 year ministry 00:20:53.36\00:20:57.62 that ended with her death in 1915. 00:20:57.65\00:21:02.65 During the course of her life, she received some 2,000 visions. 00:21:02.68\00:21:07.19 Some of them I've seen as long as four hours. 00:21:07.22\00:21:11.25 There were-- Just to give you just some statistics on this. 00:21:11.28\00:21:14.19 There were some 26 books that she wrote. 00:21:14.22\00:21:17.58 There are some 55,000 manuscript pages, 00:21:17.61\00:21:20.28 100 compellations of her writings in English. 00:21:20.31\00:21:24.02 Very possibly, she is the most 00:21:24.05\00:21:25.49 translated woman in human history. 00:21:25.52\00:21:27.64 She is certainly the most translated American author 00:21:27.67\00:21:32.09 man or woman for her book, Steps to Christ, 00:21:32.12\00:21:36.58 which I'm going to share with you tonight 00:21:36.61\00:21:38.38 has been translated alone in 135 languages, 00:21:38.41\00:21:45.03 135 languages. 00:21:45.06\00:21:48.14 And, my friend, there is no doubt in my mind 00:21:48.17\00:21:50.90 that in her life of ministry was a fulfillment 00:21:50.93\00:21:54.40 of this prophecy of revelation that 00:21:54.43\00:21:56.28 the Spirit of Prophecy would be present among God's people. 00:21:56.31\00:21:59.42 But how can we really know that? 00:21:59.45\00:22:01.91 We haven't come to this point 00:22:01.94\00:22:03.42 where I'm going to say to you, take my word for it. 00:22:03.45\00:22:08.52 In fact, you'll never hear that spoken up here. 00:22:08.55\00:22:12.08 But let me tell you a little bit about Ellen White. 00:22:12.11\00:22:16.02 Ellen White, 17 years of age, that's young... 00:22:16.05\00:22:21.57 Pretty young. 00:22:21.60\00:22:23.55 And I want to tell you about the character of Ellen White. 00:22:23.58\00:22:25.67 She was not the kind of individual 00:22:25.70\00:22:27.53 that put herself into the forefront 00:22:27.56\00:22:30.07 She was not the kind of a person who wanted attention. 00:22:30.10\00:22:34.04 In fact, when this came to her, 00:22:34.07\00:22:35.98 she begged the Lord to lay it on somebody else. 00:22:36.01\00:22:42.61 She did not feel adequate in anyway for that responsibility. 00:22:42.64\00:22:47.69 And, you know, that's probably why God chose 00:22:47.72\00:22:50.73 to give this woman, young woman these revelations. 00:22:50.76\00:22:56.40 I would be worried, wouldn't you? 00:22:56.43\00:22:58.04 If it was somebody that really wanted to be noticed, 00:22:58.07\00:23:02.49 who wanted attention, 00:23:02.52\00:23:04.98 who wanted to have authority over people. 00:23:05.01\00:23:10.06 Wouldn't you be worried about that 00:23:10.09\00:23:12.33 if that was the kind of person that God chose? 00:23:12.36\00:23:15.17 I don't think God generally chooses 00:23:15.20\00:23:16.69 those kinds of people for that kind of holy mission. 00:23:16.72\00:23:19.07 So you need to know that. 00:23:19.10\00:23:20.67 So how do we know whether there's God or not? 00:23:20.70\00:23:22.59 Well, take your Bibles and turn with me to Isaiah Chapter 8, 00:23:22.62\00:23:26.00 the Old Testament, page 493. 00:23:26.03\00:23:31.31 493, Isaiah 8:20. 00:23:31.34\00:23:34.92 And by the way, on the screen there you'll see her home, 00:23:34.95\00:23:37.46 that's the home where she died in Elmshaven, 00:23:37.49\00:23:42.15 that's up in the Napa Valley area in California. 00:23:42.18\00:23:48.21 That's where she finished her ministry. 00:23:48.25\00:23:50.47 And as I said she died in 1915. 00:23:50.50\00:23:54.60 But notice this principle that we find in Isaiah 8:20. 00:23:54.63\00:23:59.09 How do we know 00:23:59.12\00:24:00.58 where there's something like this is of God or not? 00:24:00.61\00:24:03.14 Well, it tells us here in Isaiah 8:20, 00:24:03.17\00:24:05.76 "To the law and to the testimony! 00:24:05.79\00:24:08.29 If they speak-- If they do not speak 00:24:08.32\00:24:10.90 according to this word, it is because there is no." 00:24:10.93\00:24:15.60 The King James translates it properly. 00:24:15.63\00:24:17.62 "There's no light in them." 00:24:17.65\00:24:20.50 So it must be in keeping with the moral code 00:24:20.53\00:24:24.31 of God's commandments. 00:24:24.34\00:24:26.48 I mean, somebody has revelations 00:24:26.51\00:24:28.05 and they're living a prolific life and immorality 00:24:28.08\00:24:31.10 that first of all that by their fruit you shall know them. 00:24:31.13\00:24:34.23 The Bible says, right? 00:24:34.26\00:24:35.91 By their fruits you shall know them. 00:24:35.94\00:24:38.29 Well, that would be a key. 00:24:38.32\00:24:39.72 And it says, through the testimony. 00:24:39.75\00:24:41.43 And what is the testimony? 00:24:41.46\00:24:42.81 My friend, you're holding it here in your hands. 00:24:42.84\00:24:45.76 It is the testimony of the Holy Spirit to us. 00:24:45.79\00:24:49.95 And the point is, if they do not speak 00:24:49.98\00:24:52.66 in accordance with this word, 00:24:52.69\00:24:55.65 it is because there's no light in them. 00:24:55.68\00:24:58.70 So whatever revelations that supposedly come 00:24:58.73\00:25:01.83 to an individual must be in harmony 00:25:01.86\00:25:04.17 with what the Bible teaches. 00:25:04.20\00:25:05.52 And if it is not, it is not a God. 00:25:05.55\00:25:11.96 This is the final authority. 00:25:11.99\00:25:14.38 This one to the points of faith as you remember 00:25:14.41\00:25:16.06 that we were going through earlier this evening. 00:25:16.09\00:25:19.56 There has to be in point of authority. 00:25:19.59\00:25:21.35 And, my friend, the authority does not reside with you and I. 00:25:21.38\00:25:24.46 You know, I'd smell it, I would sense it. 00:25:24.49\00:25:26.75 And, my friend, you and I can't depend upon that 00:25:26.78\00:25:29.22 but what we can depend upon is the word of God, amen. 00:25:29.25\00:25:32.17 Amen. 00:25:32.20\00:25:33.28 So to me, that's a crucial issue. 00:25:33.31\00:25:34.98 The issue that I must spend most of my time on tonight. 00:25:35.01\00:25:38.20 So how did she relate to the word of God, to the Bible? 00:25:38.23\00:25:43.18 Was her influence in anyway 00:25:43.21\00:25:46.23 undermining the authority of the scriptures? 00:25:46.26\00:25:51.84 And I'm going to quote from her because, 00:25:51.87\00:25:53.78 you know, and that's the best way to do it 00:25:53.81\00:25:55.69 to establish where she stood on this issue. 00:25:55.72\00:25:58.02 So how did she relate to the Bible? 00:25:58.05\00:25:59.77 She made the statement. It's a simple one. 00:25:59.80\00:26:01.95 That is all inclusive because she said at one point, 00:26:01.98\00:26:05.28 "The Bible and the Bible." 00:26:05.31\00:26:08.14 What's the next word? "Alone is our rule of faith." 00:26:08.17\00:26:14.37 She did not say, the Bible and my writings, right? 00:26:14.40\00:26:20.91 She said the Bible and the Bible alone. 00:26:20.94\00:26:24.70 Let me tell you, 00:26:24.73\00:26:25.76 I've been preaching this message for a long time. 00:26:25.79\00:26:28.87 I never have to turn to her writings to say. 00:26:28.90\00:26:33.42 Now let me share with you why we believe this 00:26:33.45\00:26:37.65 and I take you to another seven books. 00:26:37.68\00:26:40.16 Does she bear testimony to the truth? 00:26:40.19\00:26:42.92 Of course, we would expect that if it's of God. 00:26:42.95\00:26:46.60 Does she bear testimony to Jesus in the plan of salvation? 00:26:46.63\00:26:49.40 Of course, she does. 00:26:49.43\00:26:51.54 We would expect that if it was of God, right? 00:26:51.57\00:26:54.69 So we do find truth there, 00:26:54.72\00:26:56.60 but the basis of truth is from the Bible. 00:26:56.63\00:27:01.14 She bears witness is the way I would put it to the truth 00:27:01.17\00:27:06.48 as it is in Jesus, prayers witness to Jesus. 00:27:06.51\00:27:10.49 The Bible and the Babylon. 00:27:10.52\00:27:11.78 In another book, there's one of the books 00:27:11.81\00:27:13.97 I read early in-- Actually back in my college days 00:27:14.00\00:27:18.34 about my sophomore year, 00:27:18.37\00:27:19.48 I grabbed the book Early Writings, page 78. 00:27:19.51\00:27:21.98 She said, "I recommend to you the word of God 00:27:22.01\00:27:25.10 as the rule of your faith and practice. 00:27:25.13\00:27:27.89 By that word we are to be judged. 00:27:27.92\00:27:29.99 God has, in that word, promised to give visions 00:27:30.02\00:27:33.56 for the 'last days,' not for a new rule of faith." 00:27:33.59\00:27:36.49 Let's stop right there. 00:27:36.52\00:27:37.91 Now she's quoting from something here. 00:27:37.94\00:27:40.26 When she says God has in that word 00:27:40.29\00:27:42.64 promise to give visions for the last days. 00:27:42.67\00:27:45.88 Is that true? Is that in the Bible? 00:27:45.91\00:27:49.15 And it's so where? 00:27:49.18\00:27:52.27 Joel 2:27:28. 00:27:52.30\00:27:56.18 And the context is just before the great and terrible day 00:27:56.21\00:27:59.25 of the Lord that is before His coming. 00:27:59.28\00:28:02.89 It indicated that there would be prophetic dreams 00:28:02.92\00:28:05.91 and there would be prophetic visions. 00:28:05.94\00:28:09.18 And, you know, it's supports 00:28:09.21\00:28:10.85 what we just read in revelation about the Spirit of Prophecy. 00:28:10.88\00:28:14.86 Okay, she said, "Not for a new rule of faith, but for--" 00:28:14.89\00:28:20.30 Now this one is the primary reasons that was given, 00:28:20.33\00:28:22.32 "For the comfort of His people." 00:28:22.35\00:28:25.94 And do we need to be comforted? 00:28:25.97\00:28:29.94 I don't know about you. 00:28:29.97\00:28:32.59 I need to be comforted. 00:28:32.62\00:28:36.24 And I want to share something out of my own experience 00:28:36.27\00:28:38.59 about that will illustrate this, but I'm not quite there yet. 00:28:38.62\00:28:42.13 And another reason that was given, 00:28:42.16\00:28:43.65 "And to correct those who err from Bible truth." 00:28:43.68\00:28:48.33 It authoritatively bears witness to the truth. 00:28:48.36\00:28:54.39 Did you catch that the meaning of that? 00:28:54.42\00:29:00.68 But the authority by which 00:29:00.71\00:29:02.27 He bears witness to the truth 00:29:02.30\00:29:03.88 is not the basis of the foundations of truth. 00:29:03.91\00:29:10.01 The foundation and truth is biblical, 00:29:10.04\00:29:12.57 but she authoritatively bears witness 00:29:12.60\00:29:14.87 to the truth of scripture. 00:29:14.90\00:29:17.76 One of the functions of the Spirit of Prophecy 00:29:17.79\00:29:20.25 as I just referred to is to affirm Bible truth 00:29:20.28\00:29:25.28 and to apply its teachings 00:29:25.31\00:29:27.46 and its principles through the specific times 00:29:27.49\00:29:29.69 that we're living in, 00:29:29.72\00:29:31.06 it is to help the people of God 00:29:31.09\00:29:33.69 to prepare for the return of Jesus. 00:29:33.72\00:29:36.16 And it has been given to keep us as a people 00:29:36.19\00:29:39.89 from drifting away from the foundations of our faith 00:29:39.92\00:29:43.57 which are scriptural. 00:29:43.60\00:29:47.00 I tell you, we have been tremendously 00:29:47.03\00:29:49.44 been blessed as a people. 00:29:49.47\00:29:51.41 I'm going to tell you honestly, 00:29:51.44\00:29:52.92 I have this deep conviction. 00:29:52.95\00:29:54.62 We've been tremendously blessed by this gift. 00:29:54.65\00:29:58.11 It has kept us on track biblically. 00:29:58.14\00:30:00.69 Had she been misused? Yes. 00:30:00.72\00:30:04.49 Has the Bible ever been misused? Absolutely. 00:30:04.52\00:30:08.44 And, my friend, just because something that's been misused, 00:30:08.47\00:30:11.23 don't let that be a hindrance 00:30:11.26\00:30:15.36 to seeing the God is behind the gift. 00:30:15.39\00:30:18.47 Whether we're talking about the Spirit of Prophecy 00:30:18.50\00:30:20.49 or we're talking about the prophetic gift 00:30:20.52\00:30:22.54 as we have it in the Bible. 00:30:22.57\00:30:24.85 You know, people have misused the cross, you know. 00:30:24.88\00:30:28.59 It was an emblem of the crusade. 00:30:28.62\00:30:32.30 It represented blood shed, 00:30:32.33\00:30:34.18 prosecution and oppression of certain period of time. 00:30:34.21\00:30:37.63 Are we going to reject the cross 00:30:37.66\00:30:40.47 because it has been abused or misused? 00:30:40.50\00:30:44.48 Of course not. 00:30:44.51\00:30:46.31 You know, we need to be mature about this 00:30:46.34\00:30:48.80 and we need to see if what it really is. 00:30:48.83\00:30:52.01 But time again to illustrate the relationship 00:30:52.04\00:30:55.35 between the Spirit of Prophecy and the Bible. 00:30:55.38\00:30:56.95 I don't know if you noticed, 00:30:56.98\00:30:58.01 but I discovered this in about 19 years of age. 00:30:58.04\00:31:01.22 I was in college and I was just wonder all the time, 00:31:01.25\00:31:04.85 you know, I was just tired all the time, 00:31:04.88\00:31:07.61 I was home. 00:31:07.64\00:31:08.91 I shared this with my mother and she's an LPN 00:31:08.94\00:31:12.24 and so she put it together and she took me down, 00:31:12.27\00:31:15.46 and have my eyes checked and it was eye strain 00:31:15.49\00:31:18.83 that was just wearing me out. 00:31:18.86\00:31:20.35 I was just tired and sleepy all the time. 00:31:20.38\00:31:23.14 It was all the reading and I didn't realize 00:31:23.17\00:31:25.66 that my eyes were going bad 00:31:25.69\00:31:27.19 and I tell you it was a wonderful thing, 00:31:27.22\00:31:29.34 but you know, when the Lord comes, 00:31:29.37\00:31:30.73 I'm going to get to throw those things away 00:31:30.76\00:31:32.60 as far as I can go 00:31:32.63\00:31:33.72 because I'm not going to need them anymore. 00:31:33.75\00:31:36.39 But for the time being I'm going to keep them 00:31:36.42\00:31:39.09 because let me tell you, without the glasses, 00:31:39.12\00:31:45.01 and I have little stigmatism 00:31:45.04\00:31:46.33 so things kind of going in and out 00:31:46.36\00:31:47.57 and that sort of things. 00:31:47.60\00:31:49.77 I tell you, I really can't pick up hardy a word on the page. 00:31:49.80\00:31:55.11 That's my eyesight, 00:31:55.14\00:31:56.64 but when I put these spectacles on, 00:31:56.67\00:31:58.79 everything comes immediately into sharp focus. 00:31:58.82\00:32:02.46 By the way, I do have bifocal, 00:32:02.49\00:32:03.60 so that helps also. Okay. 00:32:03.63\00:32:06.09 Comes into sharp focus. 00:32:06.12\00:32:07.96 Now did the glasses put the words there? 00:32:07.99\00:32:10.12 No. 00:32:10.15\00:32:11.58 It was there, but I just could not perceive it 00:32:11.61\00:32:14.57 because of the limitations you see. 00:32:14.60\00:32:16.97 But with the aid of those eye glasses 00:32:17.00\00:32:20.31 everything comes into sharp focus. 00:32:20.34\00:32:23.41 A similar illustration, you know, 00:32:23.44\00:32:26.15 with the naked eye we can see some few thousand stars 00:32:26.18\00:32:29.54 out there on the clear night, 00:32:29.57\00:32:31.76 but when you put one of these instruments to your eyes, 00:32:31.79\00:32:35.43 I tell you there, our heavenly bodies 00:32:35.46\00:32:37.47 we could not even began to imagine out there in space. 00:32:37.50\00:32:41.96 Again, the telescope didn't put those bodies out there. 00:32:41.99\00:32:44.24 They were there, but we didn't have 00:32:44.27\00:32:45.94 the capability of, you know, we couldn't see them. 00:32:45.97\00:32:51.10 And so the Spirit of Prophecy bears witness to the truth. 00:32:51.13\00:32:55.60 And then the early experience of the advent moment, 00:32:55.63\00:32:59.08 it was such a fluid period of time, 00:32:59.11\00:33:00.95 that period when Bible study groups 00:33:00.98\00:33:03.27 were happening all through the advent moment. 00:33:03.30\00:33:07.57 People, I mean, this is pre-TV, pre-radio. 00:33:07.60\00:33:11.44 People spent hours in studying of the Bible 00:33:11.47\00:33:15.39 and they've been doing this prayerfully. 00:33:15.42\00:33:17.06 Ellen White was a part of it, 00:33:17.09\00:33:19.12 but she was not there saying, 00:33:19.15\00:33:20.63 "Okay, listen to me, folk. 00:33:20.66\00:33:22.19 Do I have your attention? 00:33:22.22\00:33:23.57 Let me tell you, this is what the word of God is." 00:33:23.60\00:33:27.34 The process was they would be studying. 00:33:27.37\00:33:30.42 She said, "Sometimes I could not follow 00:33:30.45\00:33:34.39 the framework of the arguments 00:33:34.42\00:33:35.93 and the argument of the reasoning 00:33:35.96\00:33:38.82 that was going on in these discussions." 00:33:38.85\00:33:41.14 And sometimes they would be kind of deadlock. 00:33:41.17\00:33:44.76 There were times that God would reveal to us. 00:33:44.79\00:33:47.28 This is the track of truth. 00:33:47.31\00:33:50.48 That's the only time. 00:33:50.51\00:33:51.96 This is not a shortcut for the study of God's word 00:33:51.99\00:33:55.63 is what I'm trying to say. 00:33:55.66\00:33:57.12 Lord did the truths that were discovered in that process 00:33:57.15\00:34:02.06 come out of this is what Ellen White said. 00:34:02.09\00:34:06.42 But she board testimony that this is what the truth is. 00:34:06.45\00:34:11.54 It's not a shortcut for Bible study. 00:34:11.57\00:34:13.58 Never should be that, 00:34:13.61\00:34:15.28 right? 00:34:15.31\00:34:16.54 It should never be a shortcut and when it does, 00:34:16.57\00:34:18.42 we're misusing it. 00:34:18.45\00:34:19.75 In John 14:26, 00:34:19.78\00:34:21.39 Jesus said, "But the Helper, the Holy Spirit, 00:34:21.42\00:34:24.40 whom the Father will send in My name, 00:34:24.43\00:34:26.54 He will teach you all things, 00:34:26.57\00:34:29.10 and bring to your remembrance all that I said to you." 00:34:29.13\00:34:32.96 And so the Holy Spirit has been promised us 00:34:32.99\00:34:35.60 to lead us into the truth. 00:34:35.63\00:34:40.00 And, my friend, I believe 00:34:40.03\00:34:41.52 the Spirit of Prophecy is a partial fulfillment 00:34:41.55\00:34:44.96 of this promise of the Holy Spirit 00:34:44.99\00:34:47.17 to lead us into the truth. 00:34:47.20\00:34:51.24 And again, as I said it bears witness 00:34:51.27\00:34:52.90 to the truth of scripture. 00:34:52.93\00:34:56.46 It bears witness to the truth of scripture. 00:34:56.49\00:34:59.11 In her prophets to the book Great Controversy. 00:34:59.14\00:35:02.30 This is one of the 700 somewhat page books that she wrote. 00:35:02.33\00:35:06.45 It deals with prophecy and the end times 00:35:06.48\00:35:08.75 and the major issues of the end times. 00:35:08.78\00:35:11.18 The night that I was speaking on the coming of Jesus, 00:35:11.21\00:35:13.24 you may remember I ended with a reading 00:35:13.27\00:35:15.61 that described the coming of Jesus. 00:35:15.64\00:35:17.07 "Soon there appears in the east a small black cloud, 00:35:17.10\00:35:20.03 about half the size of a man's hand." 00:35:20.06\00:35:21.72 You may remember that. 00:35:21.75\00:35:23.49 And I chose that because I didn't want just preach the-- 00:35:23.52\00:35:26.55 And that's bolds of what about teaches us 00:35:26.58\00:35:28.30 about the coming of Jesus, 00:35:28.33\00:35:29.40 I wanted a description and it was the best one 00:35:29.43\00:35:31.96 I know of anywhere that's describe that there was-- 00:35:31.99\00:35:36.59 That was my motivation. 00:35:36.62\00:35:37.81 That came out of the book Great Controversy 00:35:37.84\00:35:42.03 specifically her chapter on God's people delivered. 00:35:42.06\00:35:45.83 Beautiful passage. 00:35:45.86\00:35:47.42 Put that the memory in my 20s. 00:35:47.45\00:35:49.18 It's the same book. 00:35:49.21\00:35:50.24 And this is in the prophets 00:35:50.27\00:35:52.01 and she's writing about this matter of inspiration. 00:35:52.04\00:35:56.34 She says, "In His word, 00:35:56.37\00:35:57.96 God has committed to men 00:35:57.99\00:35:59.25 the knowledge necessary for salvation." 00:35:59.28\00:36:01.68 And you know, I would say, 00:36:01.71\00:36:02.75 yes. Amen. That's the truth. 00:36:02.78\00:36:05.51 "The Holy Scriptures are to be accepted 00:36:05.54\00:36:07.41 as an authoritative, infallible," is the word, 00:36:07.44\00:36:11.32 "Infallible revelation of His will. 00:36:11.35\00:36:13.32 They are the standard of character, 00:36:13.35\00:36:14.93 the revealer of doctrines," 00:36:14.96\00:36:16.60 and this we often felt overlooked. 00:36:16.63\00:36:19.93 "And the test of experience. 00:36:19.96\00:36:23.07 Yet the fact that God has revealed 00:36:23.10\00:36:24.89 His will to men through His word, 00:36:24.92\00:36:26.62 has not rendered needless 00:36:26.65\00:36:28.16 the continued presence and guiding of the Holy Spirit. 00:36:28.19\00:36:31.89 On the contrary, the Spirit was promised by our Savior, 00:36:31.92\00:36:35.69 to open the word to His servants, 00:36:35.72\00:36:38.30 to illuminate and apply its teachings." 00:36:38.33\00:36:42.33 And we have been depending upon the Holy Spirit 00:36:42.36\00:36:44.42 from day one my on down to this point. 00:36:44.45\00:36:48.18 I tell you, I never dare to stand up here to preach 00:36:48.21\00:36:52.61 without prayerfully asking. 00:36:52.64\00:36:56.43 And first of all, I've dedicated every meeting. 00:36:56.46\00:37:01.73 I've dedicated every meeting to the Lord. 00:37:01.76\00:37:04.62 And there's not one night 00:37:04.65\00:37:05.93 I don't ask for the presence of Jesus 00:37:05.96\00:37:08.99 and asks for the presence of the Holy Spirit 00:37:09.02\00:37:12.28 to open our hearts and to lead us to the truth. 00:37:12.31\00:37:18.79 I'm bearing witness to the truth, 00:37:18.82\00:37:21.35 but that is not sufficient enough 00:37:21.38\00:37:23.49 without the Holy Spirit. 00:37:23.52\00:37:25.53 "The Spirit was promised by our Savior, 00:37:25.56\00:37:26.84 to open the word to His servants, 00:37:26.87\00:37:28.95 to illuminate and apply its teachings. 00:37:28.98\00:37:31.97 And since it was the Spirit of God 00:37:32.00\00:37:34.09 that inspired the Bible, 00:37:34.12\00:37:35.48 it is impossible that the teaching of the Spirit 00:37:35.51\00:37:39.24 should ever be contrary to that of the word." 00:37:39.27\00:37:42.89 Would you believe that? 00:37:42.92\00:37:45.31 We know that that book is inspired. 00:37:45.34\00:37:49.31 Any revelation that comes must be in coherence 00:37:49.34\00:37:55.68 with the teachings of that book, 00:37:55.71\00:37:58.39 of the light that has preceded it. 00:37:58.42\00:38:01.39 And if it is not in the coherence 00:38:01.42\00:38:03.35 with the teachings of the book, 00:38:03.38\00:38:05.54 we know it is not a God. 00:38:05.57\00:38:08.63 "The Spirit was not given-- nor can it ever be bestowed-- 00:38:08.66\00:38:11.29 to supersede the Bible, 00:38:11.32\00:38:12.87 for the Scriptures explicitly state 00:38:12.90\00:38:15.45 that the word of God is the standard by which 00:38:15.48\00:38:17.67 all teaching and experience must be tested." 00:38:17.70\00:38:21.99 She recognized that as it related to her gift, 00:38:22.02\00:38:28.02 that it must be in subjection 00:38:28.05\00:38:29.87 to the teachings of the word of God. 00:38:29.90\00:38:32.37 That is the final authority. 00:38:32.40\00:38:34.17 The fact that our approach these four weeks, 00:38:34.20\00:38:36.17 and it will be true to the every end. 00:38:36.20\00:38:38.29 The fact that our approach has been so very biblical 00:38:38.32\00:38:41.15 is a testimony to the influence 00:38:41.18\00:38:43.36 that Ellen White has had upon this church. 00:38:43.39\00:38:47.26 And if her influence in anyway undermines 00:38:47.29\00:38:49.39 the place of scripture, my friend, 00:38:49.42\00:38:51.23 you wouldn't have this experience. 00:38:51.26\00:38:55.86 Think about it. 00:38:55.89\00:38:56.96 If anything I found greater appreciation from-- 00:39:01.16\00:39:03.76 for the Bible from her writings. 00:39:03.79\00:39:05.43 Absolutely, 00:39:05.46\00:39:06.67 I have. 00:39:06.70\00:39:09.11 And I never found them in conflict. 00:39:09.14\00:39:11.46 You know, I'm so growing, 00:39:14.15\00:39:15.56 I don't have all knowledge. 00:39:15.59\00:39:18.19 The others have all knowledge. 00:39:18.22\00:39:19.65 You know, we've learned some things through the years, 00:39:19.68\00:39:23.85 but you know, 00:39:23.88\00:39:28.26 I have just never found them in conflict. 00:39:28.29\00:39:33.29 Since my college days, 00:39:33.32\00:39:34.35 I've made it my practice to make the Bible 00:39:34.38\00:39:37.05 the focal point of my study, 00:39:37.08\00:39:40.39 and secondarily, the study, 00:39:40.42\00:39:43.54 the writings of the Ellen White, 00:39:43.57\00:39:45.20 The Spirit of Prophecy. 00:39:45.23\00:39:47.56 We've got to get away 00:39:47.59\00:39:48.70 from the human instrument in all of this. 00:39:48.73\00:39:51.13 People get hung up with the human instrument. 00:39:51.16\00:39:55.53 We have to look at what's behind the human instrument, 00:39:55.56\00:39:59.56 right? 00:39:59.59\00:40:00.62 That's true, any of the prophets. 00:40:00.78\00:40:05.00 We honor them, but she's not a God 00:40:05.03\00:40:10.37 and she's not a saint in the sense 00:40:10.40\00:40:12.53 that some people think of saints. 00:40:12.56\00:40:15.02 She is a human being. 00:40:15.05\00:40:17.17 Did she? 00:40:17.20\00:40:18.23 You know, 00:40:18.31\00:40:19.34 did she have struggles? Yes, she did. 00:40:19.37\00:40:24.98 I can tell you more stories about that, 00:40:25.01\00:40:26.67 but let me share with you some warnings 00:40:26.70\00:40:28.73 about false prophets. 00:40:28.76\00:40:29.79 I think that is appropriate in our study. 00:40:29.82\00:40:31.77 Matthew 24, the New Testament, page 21. 00:40:31.80\00:40:34.11 Page 21, Matthew 24. 00:40:34.14\00:40:37.71 Jesus, as He's talking about the end times, 00:40:37.74\00:40:41.67 talks about false prophets here. 00:40:41.70\00:40:43.77 In fact, He gives us a very clear warning, 00:40:43.80\00:40:46.75 and it is in the context of the last days 00:40:46.78\00:40:49.49 that we find in here Matthew 24 and looking at verses 24 and 25 00:40:49.52\00:40:54.06 where Jesus says, 00:40:54.09\00:40:55.12 "For false Christ and false prophets will arise." 00:40:55.15\00:40:59.18 They will arise, 00:40:59.21\00:41:00.24 He says. 00:41:00.27\00:41:01.30 "And will show great signs and wonders." 00:41:01.33\00:41:04.64 False prophets giving out powerful signs, 00:41:04.67\00:41:09.38 doing tremendous wonders. 00:41:09.41\00:41:11.68 My friend, that itself even miracles of itself 00:41:11.71\00:41:16.10 is not a guarantee that something is of God. 00:41:16.13\00:41:20.48 We've got to go deeper than that. 00:41:20.51\00:41:22.78 That could be pretty shallow, that kind of stuff. 00:41:22.81\00:41:26.22 Anyway, "For false Christ and false prophets 00:41:26.25\00:41:28.79 showing great signs and wonders. 00:41:28.82\00:41:30.38 So as to mislead, it possible even the elect. 00:41:30.41\00:41:33.87 Behold, I've told you in advance." 00:41:33.90\00:41:36.79 And when He says, "Behold, I've told you in advance." 00:41:36.82\00:41:38.31 He says, "I warned you. 00:41:38.34\00:41:40.84 There's going to be false Christ and false prophets." 00:41:40.87\00:41:43.91 Now Jesus did not say, 00:41:43.94\00:41:46.50 beware of anybody who in these days, 00:41:46.53\00:41:49.27 the last days professes to be a prophet 00:41:49.30\00:41:51.35 for there will be none. 00:41:51.38\00:41:53.54 He could have just settled the whole issue. 00:41:53.57\00:41:57.14 The fact that He warns us of the false prophets 00:41:57.17\00:41:59.04 indicate that there must be true prophets 00:41:59.07\00:42:01.32 to distinguish the false farm. 00:42:01.35\00:42:04.82 But if you're like me, if I hear about 00:42:04.85\00:42:06.40 somebody else said, how is revelation. 00:42:06.43\00:42:08.06 I almost have knee-jerk reaction, please. 00:42:08.09\00:42:11.75 You know, spare me. 00:42:11.78\00:42:14.42 You know, there is so-- 00:42:14.45\00:42:16.31 We must not reject the true manifestation of the spirit 00:42:16.34\00:42:18.82 because there are so many various manifestations 00:42:18.85\00:42:22.16 that are going on and there are plenty out there, 00:42:22.19\00:42:25.36 they are. 00:42:25.39\00:42:27.96 Scotty, I'm going to tell you the story about Scotty. 00:42:27.99\00:42:31.58 She was a mother of a good friend of mine. 00:42:31.61\00:42:33.55 Predicted my seventh and eight grade years 00:42:33.58\00:42:35.29 as I was the Moses like Washington. 00:42:35.32\00:42:37.01 She was not raised as Seventh-day Adventist. 00:42:37.04\00:42:38.79 I don't even remember what her religious background was, 00:42:38.82\00:42:41.13 but she became one. 00:42:41.16\00:42:42.94 She shared with me sometime ago how, 00:42:42.97\00:42:45.84 you know, she had been 00:42:45.87\00:42:47.65 a part of the Adventist Church for some 20 years. 00:42:47.68\00:42:50.67 And really had not taking the time 00:42:50.70\00:42:52.10 to really study out these writing, 00:42:52.13\00:42:54.20 she never therefore had accepted them, 00:42:54.23\00:42:56.94 but she heard somebody preaching about it 00:42:56.97\00:42:58.93 and she decide, you know, 00:42:58.96\00:43:00.06 I really should find out about this. 00:43:00.09\00:43:02.31 So she hunt around, she found out, 00:43:02.34\00:43:04.23 you know, yeah, 00:43:04.26\00:43:05.29 I do, I have the Book Desire of Ages, 00:43:05.32\00:43:07.10 written by Ellen White. 00:43:07.13\00:43:08.65 The Book of Desire of Ages, 00:43:08.68\00:43:09.96 who do you think the Desire of Ages is? 00:43:09.99\00:43:13.55 It's on the life of Jesus. 00:43:13.58\00:43:15.57 His life and teachings, 00:43:15.60\00:43:17.04 His crucifixion. 00:43:17.07\00:43:18.10 I tell you, those chapters are so powerful 00:43:18.13\00:43:21.39 that describe those closing scenes of Jesus' life 00:43:21.42\00:43:25.64 and His crucifixion, 00:43:25.67\00:43:27.12 His resurrection. 00:43:27.15\00:43:29.25 They are powerful. 00:43:29.28\00:43:30.87 She read through the whole book. 00:43:30.90\00:43:32.22 This is among the 700 to 800 page books 00:43:32.25\00:43:34.25 that she wrote on the life of Jesus. 00:43:34.28\00:43:37.49 And she came out and she said, 00:43:37.52\00:43:38.98 "You know-- its just all put together. 00:43:39.01\00:43:41.55 And then she read the book Steps to Christ 00:43:41.58\00:43:43.39 and reaffirm the growing convection, 00:43:43.42\00:43:45.72 you know, that there was something here 00:43:45.75\00:43:49.15 that was of a divine origin. 00:43:49.18\00:43:52.12 And so again, you know, 00:43:52.15\00:43:54.86 we can only find out for ourselves 00:43:54.89\00:43:56.69 as we take the time to study it 00:43:56.72\00:43:59.27 and discover what the Bible teaches. 00:43:59.30\00:44:02.27 There has been a study that has been done 00:44:02.30\00:44:06.38 in regards to the influence of the Spirit of Prophecy. 00:44:06.41\00:44:09.81 We call the Spirit of Prophecy. 00:44:09.84\00:44:11.16 Actually I have become 00:44:11.19\00:44:13.89 somewhat interested in Revelation 12:17. 00:44:13.92\00:44:17.20 In fact, that is referred to as the testimony of Jesus. 00:44:17.23\00:44:22.95 Testimony of Jesus or from Jesus 00:44:22.98\00:44:25.57 or of testimony, of a reference to Jesus. 00:44:25.60\00:44:29.36 There's, you know, couple of ways 00:44:29.39\00:44:30.61 that you can actually interpret it, 00:44:30.64\00:44:32.14 but the center point, the focal point 00:44:32.17\00:44:35.09 is Jesus no matter how you interpret that text, 00:44:35.12\00:44:38.39 right? 00:44:38.42\00:44:40.23 But anyway there has been the study that has been done 00:44:40.26\00:44:42.73 by Dr. Roger Dudley and Desmond Cummings, 00:44:42.76\00:44:46.88 they studied 8,200 individuals within the church. 00:44:46.91\00:44:49.64 This is study that's been done some years ago. 00:44:49.67\00:44:53.29 And this is what they found 00:44:53.32\00:44:54.51 as they looked at these 8,200 people. 00:44:54.54\00:44:56.74 They've found that 82% of those 00:44:56.77\00:44:59.40 who were readers of her writings, 00:44:59.43\00:45:03.01 reported an intimate relationship with Jesus Christ 00:45:03.04\00:45:07.32 compare to 50% who were not studying her writings. 00:45:07.35\00:45:11.94 So there was an experiential correlation 00:45:11.97\00:45:14.71 that seemed to be indicated in the study. 00:45:14.74\00:45:16.76 Furthermore, 82% of those who read her writings reported 00:45:16.79\00:45:20.30 assurance which is a wonderful thing, 00:45:20.33\00:45:23.88 assurance of being right with God. 00:45:23.91\00:45:26.40 Well, 59% of those 00:45:26.43\00:45:27.90 who did not read reported assurance. 00:45:27.93\00:45:31.17 Fascinating to me. 00:45:31.20\00:45:32.65 24% more of those who were reading 00:45:32.68\00:45:35.47 were involved in Christian service 00:45:35.50\00:45:37.08 compare to those who were non-readers. 00:45:37.11\00:45:39.52 So there are ways to measure this. 00:45:39.55\00:45:41.65 Again, 82% of those 00:45:41.68\00:45:42.77 who were readers reported daily 00:45:42.80\00:45:45.30 personal Bible study compared to 47% 00:45:45.33\00:45:47.86 who did not read her writings. 00:45:47.89\00:45:49.84 So those are more active devotional life 00:45:49.87\00:45:52.36 as what we find. 00:45:52.39\00:45:53.93 I want to take yo to 1 Thessalonians 5, 00:45:53.96\00:45:58.00 the New Testament page 161, another warning 00:45:58.03\00:46:03.69 that we find in scripture. 00:46:03.72\00:46:04.99 This one by Paul. 00:46:05.02\00:46:07.21 Again, it's 1 Thessalonians 5 00:46:07.24\00:46:08.95 and we're looking at verses 19-21, 19-21, 00:46:08.98\00:46:15.15 where Paul says, "Do not quench the spirit, 00:46:15.18\00:46:17.96 do not despise prophetic utterances 00:46:17.99\00:46:21.23 but examine everything carefully." 00:46:21.26\00:46:24.54 So do not despise prophetic utterances. 00:46:24.57\00:46:27.36 Paul instructs us, 00:46:27.39\00:46:28.84 but what's the council? 00:46:28.87\00:46:30.52 "Examine everything carefully." 00:46:30.55\00:46:34.03 And, my friend, if you've never heard of Ellen White, 00:46:34.06\00:46:36.19 if you've never read a word that she has written. 00:46:36.22\00:46:39.77 Let me tell you this presentation 00:46:39.80\00:46:41.49 does not represent a careful examination. 00:46:41.52\00:46:45.01 It represents an introduction. 00:46:45.04\00:46:48.90 And that's why we do not expect people 00:46:48.93\00:46:51.41 when they decide to become a member 00:46:51.44\00:46:53.13 of the Adventist church, this church. 00:46:53.16\00:46:55.67 We do not require people to embrace 00:46:55.70\00:46:59.61 and to accept her and the prophetic gift 00:46:59.64\00:47:03.76 that we believe that she had. 00:47:03.79\00:47:05.16 We do not require that. 00:47:05.19\00:47:07.05 She herself gave us that council 00:47:07.08\00:47:09.63 that it should not be made 00:47:09.66\00:47:10.78 a test of fellowship to the church. 00:47:10.81\00:47:13.91 I tell you what some tests are. 00:47:13.94\00:47:15.16 Actually we're going through some of them 00:47:15.19\00:47:17.08 in looking at the principles of faith. 00:47:17.11\00:47:19.51 The first one is, once person connect with Jesus Christ 00:47:19.54\00:47:23.76 is one of the fundamental tests of formal fellowship 00:47:23.79\00:47:26.93 and membership of the church there ought to be, 00:47:26.96\00:47:29.28 right? 00:47:29.31\00:47:31.26 Now got to deal with the issue that God used a women. 00:47:31.29\00:47:35.00 God will use whoever He will, man or woman. 00:47:35.03\00:47:39.17 Ladies, the women all said... 00:47:39.20\00:47:43.57 One man said amen. 00:47:43.60\00:47:45.34 Oh, I don't know where you ladies are at, 00:47:45.37\00:47:46.81 but anyway I believe it. 00:47:46.84\00:47:48.79 In Exodus 15:20-21, 00:47:48.82\00:47:51.77 Moses' sister prophesied. 00:47:51.80\00:47:54.18 It says in Judges 4:4-5, 00:47:54.21\00:47:57.36 one of the Judges Gabriel had the prophetic gift. 00:47:57.39\00:48:02.30 2 Kings 22:14, Huldah was a prophet. 00:48:02.33\00:48:07.06 In Isaiah 8:3, Isaiah's wife also prophesied. 00:48:07.09\00:48:11.05 So we have the husband and wife team here. 00:48:11.08\00:48:13.35 And in the New Testament Luke 23:6, 00:48:13.38\00:48:17.04 it tells us that Anna was a prophetess, 00:48:17.07\00:48:20.78 when she saw Jesus, 00:48:20.81\00:48:22.08 when he came as a little baby to the temple there. 00:48:22.11\00:48:25.97 And in Acts 21:9, Phillip's four daughters prophesy. 00:48:26.00\00:48:33.22 So there we have chapter and verse 00:48:33.25\00:48:35.72 that shows that God does used women. 00:48:35.75\00:48:39.27 And women bring certain advantages 00:48:39.30\00:48:40.82 to the table in a lot of church. 00:48:40.85\00:48:42.96 I tell you, men sometimes tend to be territorial, 00:48:42.99\00:48:46.23 often times women tend to be, 00:48:46.26\00:48:48.49 you know, let's get everybody together. 00:48:48.52\00:48:50.46 Women tend to-- I didn't mean to really get into this, 00:48:50.49\00:48:54.02 but I do, I appreciate women 00:48:54.05\00:48:56.52 because often they're deal on feeling levels 00:48:56.55\00:48:59.89 when we men as I said 00:48:59.92\00:49:02.90 tend to be territorial about things. 00:49:02.93\00:49:06.01 Right, guys? 00:49:06.04\00:49:07.53 It's not that we can't feel, 00:49:07.56\00:49:08.99 but when certain issue comes up, you know. 00:49:09.02\00:49:12.02 I was in seminary. 00:49:12.05\00:49:14.24 I've gone through four years 00:49:14.27\00:49:15.46 of undergraduate work in theology, 00:49:15.49\00:49:17.20 two years in internship. 00:49:17.23\00:49:18.30 I am in seminary, 00:49:18.33\00:49:19.39 so two years course. It's intensive. 00:49:19.42\00:49:22.05 And I, you know, 00:49:22.08\00:49:23.57 I reach a point of discouragement. 00:49:23.60\00:49:25.76 They just seem like my prayers were bouncing off the ceiling. 00:49:25.79\00:49:28.32 I was, I was on a state of discouragement. 00:49:28.35\00:49:30.25 And I tell you honestly what was going on. 00:49:30.28\00:49:33.24 I really believed that god had called me into the ministry, 00:49:33.27\00:49:35.86 but I was coming face to face as a young man 00:49:35.89\00:49:38.31 in my 20's with the fact of my-- 00:49:38.34\00:49:40.53 I was coming face to face with my humanity 00:49:40.56\00:49:44.32 and I was feeling so unworthy 00:49:44.35\00:49:49.53 'cause I knew I have these struggles in my life 00:49:49.56\00:49:52.57 and I was in-- As I said a state of a discouragement. 00:49:52.60\00:49:55.80 I did something that I made a practiced to do ever since. 00:49:55.83\00:50:00.39 I grab this book, Step to Christ written by Ellen White 00:50:00.42\00:50:04.80 and I read through it and it re-assured me. 00:50:04.83\00:50:09.52 There's something powerful in my life. 00:50:09.55\00:50:12.71 And I want to share just a couple of things. 00:50:12.74\00:50:14.01 I want to give you the sense 00:50:14.04\00:50:16.00 by which you'll find in part in her writings. 00:50:16.03\00:50:20.06 And I'm going to share with you. 00:50:20.09\00:50:21.21 Oh, I love this chapter on faith and acceptance. 00:50:21.24\00:50:23.99 It's beautiful. 00:50:24.02\00:50:26.05 And in that chapter, actually it's-- Yeah, 00:50:26.08\00:50:29.06 chapter on faith and acceptance. 00:50:29.09\00:50:32.35 This statement grabbed me. 00:50:32.38\00:50:36.91 It's on page 34, if you want it. 00:50:36.94\00:50:40.19 This is what really spoke to me. 00:50:40.22\00:50:42.38 She wrote Psalm seem to appeal 00:50:42.41\00:50:44.77 that they must be on probation. 00:50:44.80\00:50:46.60 "They must prove to the Lord 00:50:46.63\00:50:47.70 that they are reformed, 00:50:47.73\00:50:49.49 before they can claim His promise, His blessing." 00:50:49.52\00:50:52.88 It's this idea. I've got to get my life straighten out 00:50:52.91\00:50:56.09 before I can claim His blessing. 00:50:56.12\00:50:57.91 I've got to get all of these things worked out 00:50:57.94\00:50:59.51 before I come to Jesus. 00:50:59.54\00:51:01.97 That's what she's addressing. 00:51:02.00\00:51:03.03 Some seem to feel that they have to do that, 00:51:03.06\00:51:05.19 but she says, "But they may claim 00:51:05.22\00:51:07.03 the blessing of God even now. 00:51:07.06\00:51:10.15 They must have His grace, 00:51:10.18\00:51:11.58 the Spirit of Christ, to help their infirmities, 00:51:11.61\00:51:13.84 or they cannot resist evil." 00:51:13.87\00:51:16.25 It's impossible. 00:51:16.28\00:51:17.75 And then this is the coronal of that 00:51:17.78\00:51:18.90 that really grabbed me. 00:51:18.93\00:51:21.84 She goes on to say, 00:51:21.87\00:51:22.98 "Jesus loves, Jesus loves to have us come to Him 00:51:23.01\00:51:27.76 just as we are, sinful, helpless, dependent." 00:51:27.79\00:51:33.28 Oh, I want to tell you, that was good news to this sinner. 00:51:33.31\00:51:37.77 Didn't know that Jesus wasn't holding me off at arms length 00:51:37.80\00:51:40.77 and tell you He just got all of these things straighten out, 00:51:40.80\00:51:43.57 but Jesus didn't just tolerate me, 00:51:43.60\00:51:46.66 Jesus loved to have me come to Him just as I am, 00:51:46.69\00:51:51.18 the sinner that I am. 00:51:51.21\00:51:54.77 Helpless and dependant as I still am. 00:51:54.80\00:51:58.65 And as it changed, I'll tie you. 00:51:58.68\00:52:00.41 I still am helpless and dependant. 00:52:00.44\00:52:04.35 And, my friend immediately I realize, 00:52:04.38\00:52:06.16 I can take a mask off. 00:52:06.19\00:52:08.79 You know, we wear mask in church. 00:52:08.82\00:52:11.56 I can get down from that pedestal 00:52:11.59\00:52:13.77 that often we put ministers on. 00:52:13.80\00:52:16.93 I could be real with myself 00:52:16.96\00:52:19.21 and I can be real with people, 00:52:19.24\00:52:22.51 you know. I too struggle. 00:52:22.54\00:52:26.50 You know, when we enter the ministry guild, 00:52:26.53\00:52:27.88 that's not generally the way that it was presented. 00:52:27.91\00:52:30.06 You've got to be the example. 00:52:30.09\00:52:31.88 You don't emit weakness, You don't emit failure. 00:52:31.91\00:52:36.17 And, my friend, it made us a ministry apostate 00:52:36.20\00:52:38.53 and are real and it's so free. 00:52:38.56\00:52:41.46 And I know Gill has found that, too. 00:52:41.49\00:52:43.45 It's so free to be able to be real. 00:52:43.48\00:52:45.73 I'm not going to lay out all of my pr0oblems 00:52:45.76\00:52:47.42 before you because I don't want that 00:52:47.45\00:52:48.88 to become the issue of my ministry, you know. 00:52:48.91\00:52:52.38 But let me tell you, 00:52:52.41\00:52:53.44 I have found Jesus as a sinner-- Anyway, 00:52:53.47\00:52:58.55 "He loves to have us come to Him." 00:52:58.58\00:52:59.96 Then it goes on to say, 00:52:59.99\00:53:01.16 "We may come with all our weakness, 00:53:01.19\00:53:03.79 our folly, folly, folly." 00:53:03.82\00:53:06.87 His, I do better, 00:53:06.90\00:53:09.56 but I really blew it. 00:53:09.59\00:53:12.52 How foolish can you be? 00:53:12.55\00:53:14.92 Well, that's been me at certain times in life. 00:53:14.95\00:53:18.02 "So we may come with all our weakness, 00:53:18.05\00:53:19.52 our folly, our sinfulness, 00:53:19.55\00:53:21.53 and fall at His feet in penitence. 00:53:21.56\00:53:24.60 It is His glory to encircle us in the arms of His love 00:53:24.63\00:53:29.29 and to bind up our wounds, 00:53:29.32\00:53:30.66 to cleanse us from all impurity." 00:53:30.69\00:53:33.57 And I tell you as I was reading this book, 00:53:33.60\00:53:35.45 as I was reading this kind of passages. 00:53:35.48\00:53:37.50 And let me ask you the question. 00:53:37.53\00:53:39.40 Is this something new? 00:53:39.43\00:53:41.44 Is this something that we wouldn't find in the Bible? 00:53:41.47\00:53:44.57 Well, maybe not quite in these words, 00:53:44.60\00:53:45.95 but this is the gospel, 00:53:45.98\00:53:47.23 isn't it? 00:53:47.26\00:53:49.59 So this is not an addition to. 00:53:49.62\00:53:51.78 It's a new melody in the gospel. 00:53:51.81\00:53:55.34 And I tell you as I went through this 00:53:55.37\00:53:57.50 and as began to grasp this personally, 00:53:57.53\00:54:00.03 I began to feel those arms of Jesus encircling me 00:54:00.06\00:54:04.80 and the joy and the peace that came in Jesus. 00:54:04.83\00:54:10.73 I still feel that. 00:54:10.76\00:54:14.74 One other statement I'll share with you, 00:54:14.77\00:54:16.88 just one other. Page 42 in this edition. 00:54:16.91\00:54:23.33 And this again really spoke to me. 00:54:23.36\00:54:24.64 Of course, it spoke to me 00:54:24.67\00:54:25.70 because I'm sharing it with you. 00:54:25.73\00:54:27.23 It says, "There are those who have known 00:54:27.26\00:54:29.39 the pardoning love of Christ, 00:54:29.42\00:54:30.76 and who really desire to be children of God, 00:54:30.79\00:54:33.80 yet they realize that their character is imperfect, 00:54:33.83\00:54:36.75 their life faulty, and the are ready to doubt 00:54:36.78\00:54:38.55 whether their hearts have been 00:54:38.58\00:54:39.67 renewed by the Holy Spirit." 00:54:39.70\00:54:43.42 And I can relate to that. 00:54:43.45\00:54:46.46 I've been through that experience 00:54:46.49\00:54:47.88 and some of you can relate to that, 00:54:47.91\00:54:49.09 I know that. But she goes on to say, 00:54:49.12\00:54:52.51 "To such I would say, do not draw back in despair." 00:54:52.54\00:54:58.62 Because of your short-comings and mistakes. 00:54:58.65\00:55:01.22 "We shall often have to bow down 00:55:01.25\00:55:03.33 and weep at the feet of Jesus 00:55:03.36\00:55:05.61 because of our short-comings and mistakes, 00:55:05.64\00:55:07.58 but we are not to be discouraged." 00:55:07.61\00:55:10.27 Why? 00:55:10.30\00:55:12.07 "Even if we are overcome by the enemy, 00:55:12.10\00:55:16.57 we are not cast off, 00:55:16.60\00:55:19.94 not forsaken and rejected of God." 00:55:19.97\00:55:23.81 And, my friend, from that moment 00:55:23.84\00:55:25.67 when I read those words with new meaning to my life, 00:55:25.70\00:55:30.82 it gave me assurance that I never had before 00:55:30.85\00:55:36.59 that I am His. 00:55:36.62\00:55:38.65 Short of choosing another master 00:55:38.68\00:55:41.39 which we are free to do, 00:55:41.42\00:55:43.12 but stumbling and falling into sin 00:55:43.15\00:55:45.25 is not of itself choosing another master. 00:55:45.28\00:55:50.17 Before I had this in and out of Christ experience. 00:55:50.20\00:55:52.92 In Christ when things were going well, 00:55:52.95\00:55:55.38 out of Christ when thing did not go well 00:55:55.41\00:55:58.07 until I got on my knees and make confession 00:55:58.10\00:56:00.23 and repentant and I knew I was forgiven 00:56:00.26\00:56:02.40 and then I got up and then I was back in His arms. 00:56:02.43\00:56:05.92 It was in and out. 00:56:05.95\00:56:07.61 There's no peace in this in and out. 00:56:07.64\00:56:11.29 The moment we come to Jesus we are His. 00:56:11.32\00:56:15.33 And when I became a parent, 00:56:15.36\00:56:16.40 I understood it even better. 00:56:16.43\00:56:18.76 My-- I love my boys, my young men, my sons. 00:56:18.79\00:56:22.45 I love them deeply, but they made mistakes. 00:56:22.48\00:56:25.31 But let me tell you this. 00:56:25.34\00:56:27.10 Whatever mistakes they've made, 00:56:27.13\00:56:29.34 I am still their father. 00:56:29.37\00:56:32.50 They are still my sons, my children 00:56:32.53\00:56:35.71 and they are welcome in my home. 00:56:35.74\00:56:39.16 And if I can have that kind of love 00:56:39.19\00:56:41.77 and acceptance of my children, 00:56:41.80\00:56:44.68 how about our heavenly father and we as His children. 00:56:44.71\00:56:50.25 My friend, it is not in and out of Christ, 00:56:50.28\00:56:53.64 it is not. It is assurance and Jesus. 00:56:53.67\00:56:59.65 And I just pray to God as I look out on you tonight 00:56:59.68\00:57:03.12 that every one of you have found this. 00:57:03.15\00:57:08.36 It is the pearl of great price and centered in Jesus, 00:57:08.39\00:57:12.66 isn't it? 00:57:12.69\00:57:15.50 It's everything and it's joy. 00:57:15.53\00:57:19.53 I can just go on and on talking about. 00:57:19.56\00:57:21.04 The joy that comes out of that, 00:57:21.07\00:57:22.50 the satisfaction, the assurance, 00:57:22.53\00:57:24.31 the reassurance that comes out of it. 00:57:24.34\00:57:28.22 It's a wonderful thing. 00:57:28.25\00:57:30.48 Thank you, Jesus. 00:57:30.51\00:57:32.73 Thank you for loving me that way. 00:57:32.76\00:57:35.48