Our local church ministry
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has really
restored relationships.
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It's pulled up roots of
ignorance about abortion
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and planted seeds of
love, hope and healing.
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Come learn how on
Life After Choice.
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Hi, I'm Michael.
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And this is Abby,
welcome to Life After Choice.
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My girlfriend had an abortion
in which I had no choice.
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And my life
spiraled out of control.
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There was lots of bitterness,
pain, addictions, depression,
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anxiety,
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but God in His mercy
reached down in my heart
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and gave me
healing and restoration.
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I want to share with you
how we started the ministry.
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But first, I want
Abby to share her story
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and her journey also,
and how this all took place.
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Absolutely,
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I was completely
blinded by pride.
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I wanted to
make my own decisions
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and have control of my own life.
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In that, I distanced from God,
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I chose to take a
morning after Plan B pill,
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trying to prevent
the pregnancy of my now
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wonderfully
healthy, beautiful daughter.
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God had a really
awesome plan for my life,
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just like He has
for all of His children,
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and our local church ministry
that we have now started
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has really
glorified the name of the Lord
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and proven that He can make
1000 goods out of our 10 bads.
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So I remember us receiving,
tell me walk me through this,
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Abby, how did we
receive the connection card?
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What went on in your mind?
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Was this something
that you had thought
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about for a long time,
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I really want to
know more about this,
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maybe our audience that I know,
but they don't know about this.
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Absolutely.
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So I had really
been praying to the Lord
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that He would show me some
way to serve in our church.
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And I really just
wanted a way to hone in
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and focus on something
that I could connect with.
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And I connected with
people who'd had an abortion
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because I understood
the fear that they feel
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when they're faced
with this decision.
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So as I was praying about
this, and the Holy Spirit,
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you know, is really prompting me
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and leading me
towards this type of ministry.
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My husband, he recommended
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that I fill out a
little connection card,
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just a little note to our pastor
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to try to kind of
get that ball rolling.
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And so I sent it in at
just the end of the sermon
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to see what God
would do with it.
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I remember reading that card.
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And I thought, well,
this is really not for me,
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and I wanted to defer on it.
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But God kept prompting me,
you need to follow up on this.
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And so I began making some calls
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in our local church conference,
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we had nothing in our
conference on abortion
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or ministry related to that.
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But we kept going
further and further
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in the Southwestern Union
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of the Seventh-day
Adventist Church gave me
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some contact
information for Mafgia Ministry,
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which is the self supporting
ministry that helps those
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who have had abortions
and also counsels with those
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who are pondering
or thinking about this.
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It talks about
reconciliation, and healing,
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and how we can be
restored to the God
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who loves us so much.
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We began this
ministry by seeking God
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earnestly in prayer.
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I remember us
really just praying,
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and talking, and asking God,
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you know, what should we
do because we had no idea
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how and what to do in
these unchartered waters.
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And it was
really an amazing thing
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to see how God
really opened up doors.
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Right. And he
really did, He just...
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He opened the floodgates.
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It felt like, you know, we
started asking the questions
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and we started
looking for avenues
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for people to talk to.
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And with the Mafgia
Ministry, like you mentioned,
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they gave us some leadership
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and told us
that we really needed
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to reach out to the
resources in our community
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to see what was there.
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So we started
talking to the crisis
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pregnancy centers,
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we started talking to a
couple of other churches who had
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similar ministries that
focused on post abortive healing
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and alternatives to abortion.
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And when we
started looking at those,
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you know, we really
wanted to kind of hone in,
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gather all these ideas
and glean from these people
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so that we can
bring it to our church,
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who really had nothing to offer.
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You know, if this conversation
had not been started,
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abortion wasn't
something that was talked about,
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that was counseled on, that was,
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you know,
recommended or discouraged,
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you know, in marriage counseling
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or anything like that.
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So, when we kind of
got that ball rolling,
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and started asking questions,
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it was just really cool
to see where God led us.
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I remember that one
conversation we had,
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you remember
when we were talking
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on the conference call
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and we had Mafgia
Ministry and they were saying,
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"We just need to get
the conversation started."
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And really moving step by
step in being very patient
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and I remember
talking to our elders
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and it was kind of
apprehensive in my heart,
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you know, lots of
apprehension and thinking,
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how are they
going to receive this?
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Are they gonna be judgmental?
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I remember
having our first meeting
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with some other core leaders,
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and they were thinking
and asking the question,
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could we get into a
lot of legal problems
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if we even bring this
ministry into our church?
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Are we well equipped medically
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to talk about some of the issues
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and we kept going back
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to the stories
in the scriptures,
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how Jesus brought
healing, and how He did it,
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and how He sent
His disciples out
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to heal the brokenhearted,
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to set at liberty those
who are bruised or crushed.
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And we really felt compelled
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that we must move
forward with this ministry.
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We went to a
retreat, and at this retreat,
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we learned a lot about
how the very nuts and bolts
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and how the
structure of how we can help
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with these various,
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help people who
were in need of help.
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Maybe you could share how
we started the small group.
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What were your first impressions
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when we started the small group
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for this ministry?
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Yeah, absolutely.
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So you talked about
this retreat that we went to,
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and how it led into
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the formation
of our small group.
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And it was just an
incredible journey.
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And I can't
really emphasize enough
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how much we saturated
this ministry in prayer.
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You know, we prayed, and
we prayed, and we prayed,
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we prayed and we
fasted for 40 days.
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And we got our board on board,
and we got our elders with us.
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And, you know, it was just
this big team working together.
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So I can't emphasize enough
the prayer that went into it.
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But after this retreat,
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and we had gotten ideas
from other resources around us,
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our board
recommended that we go ahead
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and just reach out to the ladies
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at the Mafgia
Ministry and ask them
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to come physically to our church
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to get this
conversation rolling.
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You know, to put it
out there to show them
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that it's not just us.
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It's not just on our
heads that this is a real thing
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that our
Seventh-day Adventist Church
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needs to address.
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So when we did that,
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the wonderful ladies
at the Mafgia Ministry,
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they came to our church
and they gave a weekend seminar
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called "The Silent Sorrow."
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Now this seminar focuses
on the grief and the pain
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that people feel that is silent.
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And it is a sorrowful heartache,
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because they feel like
they can't be forgiven,
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you know, not only
do they have to live,
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you know, with
the pain of the loss,
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but also the
pain of feeling like
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they're forever
disconnected from the Lord,
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like feeling like they can't
get that relationship restored,
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feeling they can't
get back to that place.
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So as we focused on
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this message of
redemption and healing,
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and what God truly has to offer,
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and what His true character is.
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Over this weekend seminar,
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we handed out
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some connection
cards for people to,
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you know,
privately on their own,
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give us some
feedback and let us know,
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what can we do,
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you know, what can we
offer you to help you.
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Because we had people
from our community there,
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you know, we had
people from our church,
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we really broadcasted that.
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We want to get this
conversation started here.
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So when we got all
these cards back of people
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who are interested in
helping in the ministry,
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and people who wanted to,
you know, discuss it more,
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people who felt like, you know,
they needed us to help them,
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guide them through
the recovery process,
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because it wasn't something
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that they could do on their own.
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They needed Christ to
intervene in their life.
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So that's how our
Bible studies started is,
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we got this awesome ministry
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and all these people
really, really excited about it,
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and really just
seeking after the Lord
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in a new and amazing way.
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So our Bible study started,
you remember the first meeting?
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I remember the first meeting,
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you know, you could see
and smell fear in that room,
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you know, because,
again, we were looking around
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and I'm sure
people were thinking,
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maybe I'm going to be judged.
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I have this position in church,
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and how would they
look at me afterwards
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of me sharing the story.
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And so there are
different levels of quietness,
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you know, we went through
and we spent time in prayer.
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But I recall, as I
was thinking about this,
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you know, as if you were
walking into this garden,
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and it's just dead, you
know, there was no life,
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the rose bushes
are all burnt down,
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and all the different
daffodils and all the flowers,
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the garden is just dead.
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But as we went
through this study,
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week after week,
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and as the Spirit
of God was poured out,
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I just saw a life,
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people who were maybe
quiet, they began sharing
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and they shared
from their heart,
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they began to realize
that we could trust each other.
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And most of all
that they were forgiven
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because that was the
key in that entire study.
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And that really
gave me an outlook
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that I never had before.
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And just thinking, I
wonder how many churches
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have people who have this pain,
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but they are never
given an opportunity,
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never given a gateway of hope.
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I wonder, as I was
there with the group,
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I wonder how many mothers
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are having the pain
in raising their children
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and thinking about
the one child they lost,
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but they could
never forgive themselves.
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That is what I was thinking
about a lot with our group.
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Absolutely.
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And to see that pain,
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to see what
people were going through
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and to just be there with them,
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you know, not
that we as human beings
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had anything
special to offer them,
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but that we could
really seek the Lord together
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that was, you
know, a very powerful,
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powerful point in their lives.
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You know, it
really radically changed
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how they viewed God,
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it changed, you know,
their view of who He was
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and His love for
all of His children
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that, you know, when He
says that He forgives us,
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you know, when
we seek after Him,
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that He has
been pleading for us,
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you know that it's true
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to truly believe in
the reality of God's love.
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So to see that how
that changed people's life
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was just incredible.
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And it's incredible, you know,
every day as we move forward.
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Do you remember, you
know, like few that seven people
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that we started
with in our group?
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Do you remember
the couple of ladies
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that they had never been
able to talk about it before.
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I remember that one lady
who mentioned and said that,
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you know, when she
had had the abortion,
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her mother told her
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never bring this
subject up again,
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can you imagine?
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For years, never
bringing up this subject again.
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And I'm just
amazed at how God works
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because this same lady,
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she was at our
church for the first time
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when we were advertising
for the silent sorrow seminar
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that was coming up.
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And she said, she
said to her husband,
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this is where I need to
be, because God had ordained,
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God had just given
her this gateway of hope
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for her to be there.
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And I can just remember
how joyful she has been,
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how she feels being forgiven,
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because there were
others in our group
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that felt as if they could
not even forgive themselves.
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And so they had
to come to that point
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of forgiving themselves.
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And I think it has brought
healing to their marriages,
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it's brought
healing to their children,
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it has brought healing
to their family members,
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it has brought
healing to their co workers,
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because now
they're different people,
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just because
they've been given hope.
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And I just praise
God for that. Absolutely.
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I mean, it's all encompassing,
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you know, this idea that
it's not just about abortion,
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but it's about our
view of the human life,
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and how we value it,
and how God values it,
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and the value that
He has placed on it.
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So when we, you know,
studied this together,
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and we decided, you know,
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it doesn't matter if it
hasn't been done in the past.
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We don't have to, you
know, play by status quo,
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we can start this new
idea and this new conversation.
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We really laid the ground for,
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you know, people's
lives completely changing.
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And now we've got
this group of people
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who are so on fire for the Lord
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and just want to serve
the Lord in every aspect,
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because they have been freed
of that great, great sorrow.
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And I know you're probably
thinking as you're watching,
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how can I get this
started in my local church?
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How can I be involved?
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First of all, I would say,
seek God earnestly in prayer.
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There's so many who are hurting
right now in your congregation.
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And you're probably wondering,
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well, maybe it's just one person
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well, you may never know,
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if you don't
start a conversation.
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We praise God
because in our conference,
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our conference
president of the Seventh-day
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Adventist Church
is 100% behind us.
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We've been
having this conversation
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with our pastors
beginning to talk about this
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and not just push it away,
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and sharing and educating
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others in how
we could be of help
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and minister to
one another's needs.
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I believe, as it says
in the Book of Hosea 2:15,
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"And I will give her vineyards
from thence and the valley,
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because it says it
will open up a door,
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a door of hope,
a gateway of hope."
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We can be gateways of
hope, by partnering together,
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learning how we can be
Christ's hands and feet.
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I believe He has given
us a great opportunity.
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And my take away
from this is that
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God reveals Himself
as a God who reconciles,
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God reveals as the
God who loves and heals
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and a God who forgives.
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Amen. And I praise Him for it.
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Absolutely.
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And with that reconciliation,
he's really shown us the need
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that we have to be pulled
to him and to reconcile that
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that relationship.
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So, that is my prayer
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that we as a church
can be reconciled to God
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as we move forward
with this discussion.
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So we thank you so
much for joining us
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here on Life After Choice.
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