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- Hello, and welcome
to "Jesus for Asia Now."
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I'm Natalie Wood,
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and today, we've got
a special show planned
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and a number of
different guests,
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but first, we'll
start with my husband Jon.
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Hello, love.
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- Hi, darling. How are you?
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- I'm doing fine,
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and I know we've
got a special show today
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because we've got a
burden on our hearts,
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and what is that burden?
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- Well, you know, the...
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There is a need out there,
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a lot of people think
that the Gospel Commission
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is pretty much completed,
that everybody in the world
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has access to the
gospel if they wanted it,
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but the truth is, if you
break it down by language,
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there's a great disparity.
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I did a little
demonstration about that
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at a faith camp recently,
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and I'd just like to
show it using water bottles.
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- Okay. All right,
let's watch that now.
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- Okay.
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All right, here,
you can have one.
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Okay, 'cause you speak
English, so you get that, right?
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Oh, well, actually,
you can have this one too.
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Okay. Yep. You...
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That's...
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Yeah, just enjoy the water.
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Okay, okay, this one's for
the English-speaking person.
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All right. Good,
good, good, good.
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All right.
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And then, here,
that one's for you.
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(people laughing)
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And she speaks
English. So are you thirsty?
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No? Okay, good.
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'Cause this one goes for
the English-speaking person,
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and then...
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All right, the rest of you guys,
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all the rest of
your languages...
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Oh, you dropped...
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Okay. Here, I can help you.
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Yeah, okay, done.
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And then you can take this one,
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and then, this
one, and that one.
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Okay, so you get that much,
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and then, the rest
of you can share this.
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(person
exclaiming in uncertainty)
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- No.
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- You want to
share that with your...?
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Okay, so this is
a picture of the...
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How the gospel is
spread among the world.
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92% to 96% of all
Christian giving worldwide
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goes to the 8%
that speak English.
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- What a sobering
and challenging video
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we just watched.
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To think about these statistics,
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and about how many
people are represented
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by all those other languages,
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and how little resources
there are to reach them with,
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I wanna take
that challenge today,
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and I wanna
offer it to you also,
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that we would look
at these statistics
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and think, "What
can I do to change that?
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What is my part?
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How can I follow Jesus
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so that he can use
me to make a change
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so that statistic
no longer applies?"
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That's what we
wanna consider today,
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from Revelation 14 verse four.
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Who are the ones...?
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How do we follow
Jesus wherever he goes?
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What does that
look like in my life?
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And our first
guest is Michael Shurley.
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Hello, Michael.
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- Hello.
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- So glad you could
be here with us today.
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- Thank you.
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- So Michael, what
does following Jesus
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wherever he goes mean to you?
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- Well, I think...
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When we think of
following Jesus wherever he goes
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we sometimes spiritualize it,
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or think about, you know,
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eventually we will be
with him in heaven, right?
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But wherever he goes...
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In John 12:26, Jesus says,
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"If any man serve
me, let him follow me,
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and where I am, there
shall also my servant be,"
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and so where is Jesus?
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Well, we know
Jesus went to heaven,
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but then when he's
talking to the goats
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and the sheep of the...
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In the goats parable,
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the goats are cast
out because they did not
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serve him in the
form of, you know,
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the homeless person
that they could have helped,
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or the person who was in prison
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they should've
visited, et cetera.
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So where is Jesus?
Where should his servant be?
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Jesus is where there is need,
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where there is need for
his followers to serve someone.
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- Wow, that's a
powerful thought.
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And it goes way
beyond, like you said,
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the spiritual
application of choosing Jesus
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every moment in our lives.
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Does...?
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In your estimation, does
that involve a lot of surrender?
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- Absolutely, yes.
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I mean, you
know, our flesh wants,
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really, only to serve ourselves,
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we don't want to
be self-sacrificing,
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and so, it does
require a lot of surrender,
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and I think we also
often tend to think that...
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You know, we're
invited to count the cost,
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and we tend to think that
the cost is gonna be great
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to serve Christ, and so
maybe we should serve ourselves,
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but in reality,
when you think of it,
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what is the cost of selfishness?
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Eventually, eternally,
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selfishness is sins,
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the wages of sin is death,
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but the cost of following Jesus,
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we may give up
a few things here,
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but we have eternal life,
eternal joy with him, and so...
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And even...
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You know, we're promised
even joy here, right now,
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despite the
tribulations we'll have,
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so there's no comparison,
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the cost of serving
ourselves is far greater
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than the cost of serving Christ.
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- Wow. Yeah, that's profound.
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And so what does this look
like in your life right now?
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I mean, how, personally,
are you seeing yourself
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following Jesus
where he's leading you?
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- So I tend to be a person with
a lot of eclectic interests,
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and desires to do all
manner of random things,
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entrepreneurial
things, specifically,
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you know, I'm always
thinking about things,
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and even after I'd started
working here at Jesus for Asia,
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for a while, I had this in
my mind that I wanted to do this
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and also do a
number of other things
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that were not
necessarily bad, honestly,
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but were not
really specifically going
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to have any eternal value.
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And recently, I was convicted
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that time is short, and
the cost of wasting time
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on things that aren't going
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to have eternal value is a
cost I don't want to incur.
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I want to dedicate my
life to Christ's work,
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and so that affects
the decisions I make
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in that regard of
entrepreneurial pursuits
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and things like
that, but it also...
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It affects the
day to day because,
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you know, you can very
easily waste a lot of time on...
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I don't know,
YouTube's a big one for me.
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- This and that,
even, you know...
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- Right, and you hear
the Holy Spirit calling
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in the back of
your mind, saying,
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"I have something better
for you to do right now,"
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and it's...
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I think, you know, it
feels like a struggle,
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but oftentimes, it
doesn't have to be a struggle,
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if we were merely to obey
the Holy Spirit's calling,
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then we would...
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I've found that we
find joy immediately
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in that obedience
when we just surrender it.
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- Wow.
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So you're
finding joy in the work
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that you're doing right now...
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- [Michael] Yes.
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- Because it's making a
difference for the gospel?
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- Yes. Yes.
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- All right.
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Well, I
appreciate you being on today
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and sharing just
a little glimpse,
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hopefully, another time,
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we'll have time to
spend a little more...
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Hearing more of your story
and your journey with the Lord,
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but thank you so
much for joining us today.
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- Thank you.
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- At this time, we
have a video of Sarah,
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a young lady
who's been in Thailand
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serving at a children's home,
the Nortons children's home,
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and then, she also recently
got to visit Gayle Haberkam,
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who is our nurse in
the mountain jungles,
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we were able to
catch up with her there.
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Let's watch that video.
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(uplifting piano music)
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- So I went on my first mission
trip to Thailand in India
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when I was seven years old,
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I got this whole new
world opened up to me
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of all the
culturally different things,
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and how different it was
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from anything I had
experienced in my life,
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and I just fell in
love with the adventure,
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and I came back when I was 11,
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14, I did my first
evangelistic series in India
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and that was really
hard, but really growing,
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and then, I came
back when I was 16
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and I was able to
actually come here,
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and I fell in love with working
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in the medical mission
field with Gayle and...
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(indistinct)
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In the mountains,
it's so beautiful,
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and then, this is my most
recent mission trip at 19.
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(uplifting piano music)
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It's hard to plan, 'cause God
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doesn't always
reveal our whole life,
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but right now, I'm
planning to get a degree
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in some sort of
medical training,
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and then, Lord
willing, coming back
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and working as a missionary
in the medical missionary field.
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(uplifting piano music)
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So from my experiences
being able to do evangelism,
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and building
churches, and helping people
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who couldn't get
medical care outside of me
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and the team that
I was working with,
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I found this fulfillment in
life, even though I'm so young
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that, like, I feel like many
people have never experienced.
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You can go to bed knowing
that you've helped people,
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or, like, you've
given a church building
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that they wouldn't have had
if I didn't give my time to go,
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or, like, here
maybe, people would be sick,
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they don't know how to
take care of themselves,
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and it's just a huge blessing
to be able to be a blessing,
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and I've fallen in love
with how fulfilling it is.
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(gentle guitar music)
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One of the things that I
love about working with Gayle
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is, like, watching
how they give their best
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to every single patient,
they're using natural remedies
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and also medicine to just,
like, provide for these people
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to the best of their ability,
and that's so impactful to me
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because we don't take the time
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to care about our
neighbors a lot at home,
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or to, like, even consider
the people that we're around,
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their needs, or how
we can benefit them,
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but here, it's just,
like, giving our best
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to each person
one after the other,
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whether it's, like, two
hours after you've eaten lunch
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and it's super inconvenient,
or, you know, you're having...
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They're having to
hike in rainy season
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and they're just pouring
their heart into it, and it's...
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It makes me wanna do it,
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like, it makes me want to have
the impact on somebody's life
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that they're able to have
out here. (gentle guitar music)
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- Well, that's powerful,
thinking about each other,
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the people that are around us,
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at the store
with us or whatever,
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no matter what we're doing,
but also thinking about people
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that are on the
other side of the world,
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and that's who we wanna
meet next, and that is Gayle.
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We have a video with her.
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We caught her at the end
of her week of evangelism,
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where her sister got to go and
do evangelism in her village.
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So this is Gayle after
15 years of serving there,
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and her first baptism
was actually six years
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after she moved there,
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so it's a long-term
commitment for Gayle.
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Let's watch that now.
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(gentle piano music)
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- When I came
here to this village,
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I had no money, but I
had a love for the people,
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and because I'm a nurse,
that's my way to build a bridge
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to the people's heart, if
I take care of their illness,
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so the more that I
gave to the people here,
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the more the Lord gave to me,
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and so,
gradually, the work grew.
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At first, maybe
four or five people
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would come to church back then,
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and as we treated the
sick and prayed with them,
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and told them a
little bit about God,
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and we'd visit the villages
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and we would have
worship with the people,
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people would start
to come to this church,
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and so, that now,
almost 15 years later,
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60 or 70 people come
to church every Sabbath,
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and every year, as
we have evangelism,
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more and more people are coming,
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and also, we're having
more and more baptisms.
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(uplifting orchestral music)
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When I was in
America over the summer,
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I had time with my sister.
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They wanted to pray for
me. What do I need prayer for?
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Well, I told them I need
to pray for an evangelist
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'cause every
year, I come to America,
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and somebody gets called of
God and is inspired to come,
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but this year,
nobody, all the doors closed,
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and so, during
prayer for an evangelist,
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she heard the Holy
Spirit say to you...
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Her, "Well, you could do it."
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Then that evening,
I was talking to...
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(indistinct)
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On the phone, and he...
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I told him, "There's
no evangelist prepared,
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we don't have anyone."
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And then, he said, shockingly,
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"What about your sister?"
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So for breakfast the next
morning, I'm talking to my
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sister and I told her what...
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(indistinct)
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Said, and she was shocked
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because of what the
Holy Spirit told her,
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and from there, she was
convinced and convicted,
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God was calling her.
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She has studied night
and day, prayed so much
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so that when
these meetings began,
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they were inspired of God,
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and from the first night
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all the way through to
today on the Sabbath day,
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that church was packed.
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They are very interested
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and really earnestly
listening to everything,
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and today was the last day,
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the Sabbath divine
worship was extremely powerful
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by the grace of
God through my sister.
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(uplifting piano music)
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There is a man and
his wife and family
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that live in...
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(indistinct)
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Village, they wanted a
worship in their house,
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so we all went,
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and everybody cut all
their devil strings off,
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and they all decided
they were gonna be Christians.
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Well, our work just begins then
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because they know
nothing about that,
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they just know they don't
wanna sacrifice their animals
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and lose all
that, and they see that
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that doesn't do anything,
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and we are very happy, so
that attracts them, and...
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(indistinct)
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Had been to our church so much
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that his family
knew something also,
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and so, from that worship on,
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the wife also
was very interested
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in the Seventh
Adventist Church and the truth,
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and so, the man
and his wife were here
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ready for baptism today.
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(uplifting piano music)
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As I sat there
in the church today,
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packed out with
all these people,
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Baptist members,
people that worship the devil,
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people that don't worship
anything, or the ghost, or
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Buddha, I'm
thinking about each one
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and how so many lives,
physically, I've been able to
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save, and I think, you know, if
I didn't obey God to come here,
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what would be the
result to these people here?
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And then, what about
the people getting baptized?
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What about the people that God
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is working on their
heart that can be in heaven
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because I'm here?
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And I'm just an ordinary person,
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and I just wanna work for God
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and see that these people
can come with me to heaven also.
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(people singing
in foreign language)
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God has many
people in this area,
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and in these
villages surrounding us here,
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that we will see in heaven,
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and if I'm happy
about this baptism today,
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when I'm in heaven, I couldn't
contain the joy, I'm sure.
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- I love how Gayle says,
"I couldn't contain the joy."
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Once she gets to heaven
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and she sees all
those beautiful people
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who have been ministered
to and brought to Jesus
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by the ministry
that he's led her into,
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and this is a result of
following the Lamb with her
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so ever he goes.
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Our next guest is a young man
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who's using his
talents and gifts for the Lord,
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welcome to the show, Cameron.
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- Hi.
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- We're so glad
to have you here.
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- It's good to be here.
- And I wanted to ask you,
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what does following
the Lamb wherever...?
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So ever he goes, or wherever
he's going, mean to you?
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- I think the first
thing that comes to mind,
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is just, like, where
the Lamb was willing to go,
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which was leaving this
place that was perfect,
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you know, leaving
heaven, going from being
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at the highest
position he could possibly be,
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and as humans, so
often, we try to seek
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the highest
place that we can be.
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He was at the highest place,
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and yet, he decided
willingly to give that up
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and humble himself to
the death on the cross
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because he was not
focused on himself,
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he was completely
focused on the fact
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that his decision of
where he was willing to go
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would determine
whether he'd ever be able
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to be back with us
again, his children, or not,
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and so, I think being
willing to go wherever he goes
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is having that same attitude,
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that same spirit
of being willing to...
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No matter how wonderful
and comfortable your life is,
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being able to be willing to
give it up for someone else.
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- Wow.
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How has this
affected your decisions
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in your life, your career?
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- You know, I
feel like that I have
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the most meaningful job
that I could ever ask for...
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- Wow.
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- Which, you know, is crazy,
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I mean, there's many
people who aren't fulfilled,
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they don't feel fulfilled,
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they're working a 9:00-to-5:00
job and they hate it,
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and being willing to do...
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To go wherever God leads,
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I think there's no
more meaningful path in life
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because it leads
to just so many things
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that you would never...
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I would never have dreamed
of, you know, doing on my own
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if I had just been following
my own vision for my life,
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you know, I
wouldn't have come across
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so many amazing
things, and the ways
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that God has
worked things out as well.
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If I was working in a
another career that...
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Right?
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That wasn't focused
around working for God,
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when things don't
work out, I could...
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I would get
stressed out, you know? I'd-
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- Ditch and run, or...
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Yeah.
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- There's no assurance
that things are gonna work out,
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you know, like, when
you're working for God,
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you know that no
matter what happens,
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everything works together
for good to those who love God
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and are called
according to His purpose.
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You don't have that assurance
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when you aren't working for God,
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and so, the peace, and the joy,
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and the meaning that you get,
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you can't get it anywhere else.
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- Wow.
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Well, praise the Lord,
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I know the Lord has led
you to do video and media
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with Jesus for Asia,
social media included,
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but also, He's got you having
your own ministry as well.
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Can you share
briefly what that is?
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- Yeah, it's Rebrand Prophecy,
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basically, the
idea is a lot of people
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see Bible prophecy
as those two scary books
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of the Bible that
they don't wanna open,
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and maybe they have a
relationship with Christ
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that they find very meaningful,
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maybe they are even working
to save souls that are lost,
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and Bible prophecy often
feels separate from that,
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and I don't think
God intended it to be
00:19:52.45\00:19:54.09
because the whole Bible
is a love letter from God,
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even Daniel and Revelation,
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and so, we're using
art and storytelling
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to give people a different
glimpse into Bible prophecy
00:20:01.43\00:20:04.27
that demonstrates how
personal and relevant,
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and even how
intertwined into our...
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The call of the Great
Commission Bible prophecy is,
00:20:10.14\00:20:13.04
that we are called
to be this generation
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that reflects
the character of God,
00:20:16.85\00:20:18.35
and that goes to the
whole world to reach them,
00:20:18.35\00:20:21.85
you know, reach
everyone for Christ
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and to show the world
that God is good in our lives.
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- Wow.
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Well, thank you
so much, Cameron,
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for being on and
sharing with us today,
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I really appreciated it.
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- No problem.
Thank you for having me.
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- At this time,
we have another video
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from a missionary who's been
in Cambodia for over 30 years,
00:20:34.10\00:20:37.60
Brother Tim Maddocks.
00:20:37.60\00:20:39.50
(uplifting piano music)
00:20:39.50\00:20:42.80
- Over the years,
I've learned to trust God
00:20:49.48\00:20:51.51
and not allow
things to make me afraid,
00:20:51.51\00:20:54.35
but in my own thinking, there's
one thing that scares me,
00:20:54.35\00:20:57.89
and that is reflecting
on what would've happened
00:20:57.89\00:21:01.56
some 30 years ago, when God
first called us to Cambodia,
00:21:02.96\00:21:07.40
if we had said, "No."
00:21:08.43\00:21:10.13
Now, at that time, Cambodia
was still at war with itself,
00:21:10.13\00:21:14.07
and infrastructure
was pretty much destroyed.
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We had two small children,
00:21:17.24\00:21:18.57
our youngest was not
even one year of age,
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and so, we're
coming in to a war zone
00:21:21.24\00:21:24.11
with two little children,
00:21:24.11\00:21:25.88
and it just made
no sense whatsoever.
00:21:25.88\00:21:29.28
(uplifting orchestral music)
00:21:29.28\00:21:33.69
When we got here, we
realized, "Wait a minute,
00:21:33.69\00:21:37.39
we're the only Christians
that we know of in this town,"
00:21:37.39\00:21:41.70
and so, we've come
here to do agricultural work
00:21:42.93\00:21:45.70
and help the
people grow more rice,
00:21:45.70\00:21:47.84
but God actually sent us here
00:21:47.84\00:21:49.20
for a totally different reason,
00:21:49.20\00:21:50.91
he sent us here so that
the people could know Jesus,
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so we began sharing the gospel,
00:21:53.51\00:21:55.44
and we started a church in
town when we lived in town,
00:21:55.44\00:21:57.71
and then, when
we moved out here,
00:21:57.71\00:21:59.38
we started another church here
00:21:59.38\00:22:00.85
and we were training local
people to be church planters,
00:22:00.85\00:22:04.89
and they were going out and
sharing the gospel with people,
00:22:04.89\00:22:09.42
and then, we
started the orphanage
00:22:10.66\00:22:11.96
and we saw the
impact that Christ
00:22:11.96\00:22:13.43
was having on the
lives of the children,
00:22:13.43\00:22:15.33
and the same with the school,
00:22:15.33\00:22:16.87
and we began to
realize that, "Wait a minute,
00:22:18.03\00:22:22.97
if we had said, 'No,' when God
first called us to Cambodia,"
00:22:24.44\00:22:28.01
and there was every
logical reason to say, "No,"
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"Then there would be hundreds,
probably thousands of people
00:22:31.11\00:22:36.18
that would've
never heard the gospel
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and never had a chance to
know Jesus as their savior,"
00:22:38.72\00:22:42.02
and that's a very scary thought,
00:22:42.02\00:22:45.23
that it would've been that easy
00:22:45.23\00:22:46.73
to say, "No," for good reasons,
00:22:46.73\00:22:50.27
and yet, it could've changed
00:22:50.27\00:22:54.87
the kingdom of
heaven in a negative way.
00:22:54.87\00:22:57.21
(uplifting orchestral music)
00:22:57.21\00:23:00.94
You know, I'll sit
down in a gathering now,
00:23:03.88\00:23:05.75
a Christian
gathering, and I'll look around,
00:23:05.75\00:23:09.18
not in a pride-ful way,
00:23:09.18\00:23:10.99
but realize that
if I had said, "No,"
00:23:10.99\00:23:13.66
most of the people in this
gathering would just disappear
00:23:13.66\00:23:16.69
because they wouldn't know
Christ and they wouldn't be
00:23:16.69\00:23:19.93
here, and so, I
wanna encourage you,
00:23:19.93\00:23:21.03
if you hear God speaking to you
00:23:21.03\00:23:22.93
and he has
something for you to do,
00:23:22.93\00:23:24.80
even if it seems
completely crazy,
00:23:24.80\00:23:28.50
please seriously think about it
00:23:28.50\00:23:30.51
because it may be that God
is calling you to something
00:23:30.51\00:23:35.24
that is absurd in the minds
of people who don't know God.
00:23:35.24\00:23:40.32
Jesus has chosen us to
continue making God's love
00:23:41.58\00:23:45.39
and His character
known to the world,
00:23:45.39\00:23:47.82
and if you decide
to be a missionary,
00:23:47.82\00:23:51.63
you have a wonderful
opportunity to do that
00:23:51.63\00:23:54.30
because you may
be the only Christian
00:23:54.30\00:23:56.43
that people get to see,
00:23:56.43\00:23:58.33
and He could use you just
like He's used our family,
00:23:58.33\00:24:01.77
and the kingdom of heaven will
be a healthier, happier place
00:24:01.77\00:24:05.57
because you said, "Yes," to God.
00:24:05.57\00:24:07.14
(uplifting piano music)
00:24:07.14\00:24:10.55
(uplifting
piano music continues)
00:24:15.52\00:24:19.75
- At this time, we
have Hannah joining us,
00:24:23.63\00:24:26.29
Hannah works with us
as well, hello, Hannah.
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- Hi.
00:24:28.10\00:24:28.93
- Welcome.
00:24:28.93\00:24:29.76
- Thank you.
00:24:29.76\00:24:31.00
- And we have a few
questions for you as well.
00:24:31.00\00:24:32.70
(Natalie laughing)
00:24:32.70\00:24:33.87
So first of all,
what does following Jesus
00:24:33.87\00:24:36.91
wherever he goes mean to you?
00:24:36.91\00:24:38.81
- I think that it
means to surrender,
00:24:39.91\00:24:44.05
to be willing to go
outside of your comfort zone,
00:24:45.35\00:24:48.62
to, you know, serve people
in need or share the gospel,
00:24:48.62\00:24:52.39
or, you know,
just hear God's voice,
00:24:52.39\00:24:55.92
and I can't say that I've
always done that perfectly,
00:24:55.92\00:24:59.83
but my life has
been infinitely better
00:24:59.83\00:25:01.83
when I have done that.
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- Okay.
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So how did you first
get involved in missions?
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- My experience really
started when God prompted me
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to do student
missions when I was a student
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at Southern
Adventist University,
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and I really didn't wanna do it.
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I put up so many
protests about it,
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but God kept
pushing it and pushing it,
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and eventually
it got to the point
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where it was so clear that
I, like, couldn't say, "No,"
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because it was just so obvious
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that it really
was God calling me
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and not just me imagining things
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like I was trying to assume,
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and my student
missions experience,
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I would say in many ways,
was the most difficult thing
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that I've ever
experienced in my life,
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you know, having to
speak a different language,
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not having any
money at one point,
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a lot of personal
challenges at the same time,
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and yet, I came out
of it having the most joy
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I've ever
experienced in my life,
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and as I was
finishing my education,
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I just came to
the point of thinking,
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"What's the purpose of
just working a corporate job?
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Of fulfilling, you know,
all these ideas and dreams
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that I had for my life
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when there is so
much more joy in service?"
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- So then you got
involved with Jesus for Asia?
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- Yeah.
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- And what have you found?
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- Yeah, I think
the biggest thing
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is just getting to see
God work on a daily basis,
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whether that's
situations in the office
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where we see answers to prayer,
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or whether, you know,
it's stories or reports
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that we get from the field
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of all of the many
miracles that God has done,
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it's just such a blessing to see
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that, like, God is
real and working today,
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it's not just, you know...
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He didn't just do
all these amazing things
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back in the time of the apostles
or in other Bible times,
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he's doing it now.
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- Amen.
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All right, well, thank
you for sharing, Hannah.
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- You're welcome.
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- And I know I've been
challenged by this show,
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and I'm sure you have also.
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I would like to
invite you to join us
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in thinking about
where God needs you.
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What
opportunities or needs are there
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that only you can help with?
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Pray and ask Him
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because He may
want you to go to Asia,
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maybe even to Cambodia
like Tim, maybe to Thailand,
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maybe to some other
place, Philippines, or...
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There's so many options,
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so many places in this
world where there is need,
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and I would like to invite you
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to follow Him
wherever He leads you,
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earnestly ask Him
where He wants you to be,
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and determine that
nothing will stop you
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from going
wherever He calls you.
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If you would like
more resources to help you
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to follow Jesus
wherever he goes,
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please contact us
at Jesus for Asia,
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PO box 1221,
Collegedale, Tennessee, 37315,
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call us at "(423) 413-7321,"
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or visit our
website at jesus4asia.org.
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May God richly bless you
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until we see you next
time on "Jesus for Asia Now."
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