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- Hello and welcome
to "Jesus for Asia Now".
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I'm Natalie Wood
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and I have a couple
special guests with me today.
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They are from Thailand
you may have seen them before,
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but usually you see
the results of their work.
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Welcome to the
show, Jonathan and Hannah,
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we're so glad you're here.
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- Thank you. - Thank you.
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- It's been a while. - Yeah.
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- Since you've been here
to have an interview with us.
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In fact, we've never interviewed
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you together on the show because
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last time you were
here for an interview,
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you weren't married yet,
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but that was a long time ago.
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- Yeah.
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- So where are you working now?
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Let's start off with that.
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- Well, we live in Thailand,
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in the Central
Valley of Thailand
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actually, Nakhon Sawan
is the name of the city
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and it's about three and a half
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hours north of Bangkok.
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- Okay.
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So what do you do?
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- We are the
foreign correspondence
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for "Jesus for Asia",
that's the official title.
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So basically we are the ones
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that go to film different
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projects by workers in India.
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We capture stories and then we
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come home to Thailand and we
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edit them and then they
go on this show right here.
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(both giggling)
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- So you spend a
lot of time traveling?
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- Well, yes. (Hannah giggling)
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Yeah. - So when you're
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gone from home,
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is it primarily for shooting
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or what else do you do?
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- Well, there's
definitely a mix.
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So when new missionaries come
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specifically to Thailand,
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we help them get
used to Thailand,
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get settled,
figure out how to live
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in a completely new country.
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So that's part of what we do.
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We also, there are times
that missionaries need help.
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They need support.
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Maybe it's just taking care
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of someone's
kids or helping them
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get where they need to go
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or different things like that.
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We just try and be
a help where we can.
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- Okay.
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- So that's part of it too.
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- So how did you
end up in Nakhon Sawan,
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in the city where
you're living now?
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- Kind of a long story.
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You guys are a big part of that,
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'cause I know John especially
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had been asking people to pray
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for Nakhon Sawan for years.
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Jonathan had been there a couple
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at least once before the film.
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I'd been there a couple times
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just to see it and when people
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were being
asked to pray one time
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and we were also at that point
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planning to go to film again
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about the need in that city.
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We hadn't been traveling
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that much because of COVID
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I think that's part of
why we thought, oh well
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I think it was the
Holy Spirit too, but
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maybe we could live there.
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We don't have to be
living in Chiang Mai,
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which is where we were.
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And there's a
lot more Christians,
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there's a lot more missionaries,
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a lot of missionaries
in the Chiang Mai area.
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And so we're like, well,
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we have to live somewhere
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in Thailand and
it could be there
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even if we're not
home all the time.
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We could be praying
and getting to know people.
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- Okay.
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So you've had a few miracles
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and interesting interactions
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since you've been there.
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Can you share one with us?
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- Yeah, I think one of
the more personal ones for me,
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I guess was just we exercise
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in the park in the middle of
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the city, several evenings
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a week when we're home
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and it's not
the most convenient,
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it'd be more convenient to just
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go from home and take less time.
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But our point
in that is we wanna
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get out there
where the people are.
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'Cause otherwise we're
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at home editing
and we don't really
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interact with people.
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So we were in
the park exercising
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one evening and I was just
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walking actually, but I
walked faster than some.
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So this lady starts like jogging
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and keep up with me and was
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just obviously
friendly and she said hi.
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And I said hi back.
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And as soon as she realized
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I could speak a little bit of
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Thai, just from
the words I said,
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she started asking me questions
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and we got to talk about all
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sorts of things.
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And she
introduced us to a friend
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of hers who's Christian,
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she's Buddhist, but before
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I even told her, oh yeah,
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we're Christians too.
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She just wanted to introduce
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us to her friend and then
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invite us to her
home that evening.
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Which a lot of time people
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aren't just like, oh yeah,
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come to my house right away.
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Like they kind of
wanna get to know you.
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But I don't know if she just,
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she felt comfortable with us,
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invited us in.
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We chatted about stuff
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and there was stuff that came up
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in our conversation that evening
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that I didn't intend to be
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making a
statement about anything
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about what we
believe or anything.
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But she just picked up the
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difference between how they do
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things and how we do things.
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And she was impressed with it.
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She liked it.
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And I think that was just,
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it was a simple thing,
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but God is using
it and continuing to.
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- So you kept in
contact even though
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you haven't been home very much?
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- Yeah, we
actually haven't seen her
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a whole lot in the last year,
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but we got
together with her again
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recently and
she's full of questions
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and because of that we
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get to talk about
things that most people don't,
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we don't usually
get to talk about.
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And there's other stuff she just
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asked me straight up like,
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do you guys
fight in Coral at home?
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And I was like, not really.
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And she's like,
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oh well Thai people do.
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And I'm like, well, okay,
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Americans do too.
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It's not 'cause you're Thai,
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but I just shared with her.
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- [Natalie] Yeah. -
It's because God helps us.
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It's because of his
working in our hearts
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that's what makes
our home a peaceful home.
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And so she was just trying
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to understand that more like,
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what do you mean by praying
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and asking God for help?
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And you could just tell she
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was thinking about it and yeah,
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we don't know
what she's thinking,
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continuing to think,
but she asked questions
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and it's, yeah,
it's exciting to see.
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- It's the opportunity.
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- [Hannah] Yeah.
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- Yeah.
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So when you're
filming and editing
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all of that part
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of your work that you're doing,
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how much more time do you spend?
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Is it about equal traveling
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and filming versus editing?
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Which one takes more time?
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- Usually the
editing takes more time.
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So-- - It gets more
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interrupted too.
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- Yeah, yeah.
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It's easier to step away from
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it and do other things.
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But like for instance,
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when we go to
India, last year we went
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to India for-- - A month.
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- About four weeks.
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And some of the places we shot
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or the stories we captured,
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we only did it in
like three or four hours.
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- Mm.
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- Sometimes even less.
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But that takes a lot longer
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to edit and it becomes three,
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three minute videos
or four minute videos.
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So we captured it in a very
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short amount of time just
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because we were trying to get
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as many stories as we could.
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But then, yeah,
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the editing
definitely takes more time.
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- Because it's not just
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like whatever interview you're
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doing or whoever's
story you're hearing,
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it's also what does it
look like where they are,
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what does their
family look like?
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All that behind the scenes kind
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of what we call in
the video world B-roll.
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- [Jonathan] Right.
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- All that you have
to weave into there.
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So the story is more complete
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- [Jonathan] Yeah and--
- In the segment videos.
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- Yeah and like in
India the interviews,
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we don't
understand their language
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so it's translated,
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but then the translator often
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has an accent that's difficult
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for some people to understand.
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So then there's subtitles.
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But figuring out how to make all
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of that mesh together,
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it takes some work.
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- [Natalie] Yeah.
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- But that's okay.
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- Time consuming.
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So do you find this inspiring,
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the video work that you do?
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- Yes, and I
think the reason is,
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is because we
get to see firsthand
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the people that God is changing.
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Whether it be the missionaries
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themselves or the Bible
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workers and the people
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that they're
reaching, being able
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to hear the stories but not just
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hear them actually be there
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and experience them
and meet the people.
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It's really, really inspiring.
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- Hmm.
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So how did you get
into video, Jonathan?
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(Jonathan giggling)
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- I started with
photography actually when I was,
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well I was 10 when
I got my first camera,
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but I really got into it
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in my mid-teens
and then my older
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brother actually
was getting into video
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and that sort of, interested me.
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- Drew you in. - Yeah.
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And then, yeah,
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it just kind of grew from there
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and it's not
like I went to school.
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I don't have some
big degree in filming,
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but I learn on the job
and it, I like that better.
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Like it sticks better.
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- Yeah, definitely.
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So then Hannah, how
did you become interested?
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Because it's not just
Jonathan doing this work,
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you're doing it
together side-by-side together.
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So how did you get interested
in doing media video work?
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- Yeah, it's similar in
some ways in that I had,
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my grandpa on my dad's side,
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he has done video
stuff quite a bit.
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And then as I was growing up
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my family was involved with
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some video stuff, more like
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at a camp meeting or something.
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My dad kind of let out in some
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of that and I was
always drawn to that.
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And when I was
in my earlier teens
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to mid-teens, I was like,
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I'm gonna go to college
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and get a degree
in media of some sort.
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And then my family got invited
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to Thailand and I kind of put
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that aside and didn't really
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think much of it anymore.
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Got involved in teaching,
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I was teaching for the
good part of six years.
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And it wasn't until I realized
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that maybe we would actually
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get together someday
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'cause there had
been a casual interest
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for a while
before we got together.
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But I was like, wow,
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that's like what
I dreamed of doing
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for most of my growing up years.
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And maybe I could
actually get to do that.
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I didn't even
imagine that I would,
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but it was just God's hand
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that I first got the passion for
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missions and then got to go back
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into the video and then yeah,
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Jonathan's been
very patient with me
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'cause I've had a lot of
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catching up to do.
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I still do, but I've enjoyed it.
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- But that's okay.
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Right.
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Because the
work is going forward
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and God's enabling you to do the
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work that he's given you to do.
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So, okay.
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So you have to share a little
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of the story of how the two of
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you got together.
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Right.
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(all laughing)
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It's only fair.
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Right?
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- Well we'd met at summer camp
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when we were like 15 just,
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but it was like
I knew who she was,
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she knew who I was.
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We didn't really interact a lot.
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- We were both
kind of quiet and shy.
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- Yeah.
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And then we were both counselors
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at the same camp,
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two years later.
- Two years later.
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- And that was
when for me, I was like,
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I'm gonna keep
an eye on this girl.
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- He figured out right away
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that I kind of
shared that mutual interest.
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- Yeah.
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So I waited for a long time.
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And then after I
moved to Thailand and had
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became the foreign correspondent
for "Jesus for Asia",
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I realized, you know what,
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I think it's time I need
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to start praying about this.
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So I prayed for quite a while
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and then we started our
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relationship in early 2017.
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And then a day
less than a year later
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we got engaged and
then got married in 2018.
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- Yeah.
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- Wow.
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There's people that go
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to the foreign field as a single
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person and it's like
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where would you ever meet?
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Or,
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how would you ever
get together with someone?
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But God brought you two together
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with a shared passion for
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reaching the lost as well
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as a shared interest in video
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and the skills and talents
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to go that direction
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and to use it in his work.
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And that's really neat to see
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and I think so
many times it's like
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we don't use our skills
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and talents for
God or we put them
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on the back burner
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and we think
we'll never use them for
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God, but then he
brings us back around
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and we can, so do you see a
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need for more
people that do kind
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of what you do over there?
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As far as the video?
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- Yeah.
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- Could you use some help?
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(all laughing)
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- So, I mean, let's
just take India for instance.
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"Jesus for Asia" sponsors
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so many Bible workers in India
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and most of them we
haven't even gone to visit,
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with a video camera.
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So there's untold
stories that are there.
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And this is when
a missionary goes
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from America to
Asia or anywhere,
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they already have
their friends, their family,
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their connections
here in this country.
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But the bible
workers, they don't have that.
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They have no connection,
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they have no network of people
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here that know them
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and believe what they're doing
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and wanna support them.
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Some of the bible workers,
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they're the only
Christian in their family
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or their immediate family,
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that's the only Christians.
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So they don't have
that sort of support.
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So for us to go in and be able
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to interview them
and get their story
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and see how God is using them,
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that's a really important part.
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- Yeah.
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- And I've told
people many times we
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could go to India and do
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absolutely nothing but film
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for a year or two or three,
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but then editing.
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- Yeah. - [Jonathan] You know.
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- That has to happen also.
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- Yeah.
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Shooting is no good
without the editing.
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- [Natalie] Right.
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- It's pointless.
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So yeah, there's
absolutely space for more
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videographers in God's work,
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but I think the
foundational qualification,
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shall we say,
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is just believing in the mission
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and surrendering to God.
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Like we're videographers,
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we're not amazing videographers.
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Our work isn't just amazing
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like some other people,
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like I know
people, it's like, oh,
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they're way more
talented than me.
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They have way better
experience and whatnot.
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But the reason we're here doing
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what we're doing is because
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we believe in the
mission and God is using us.
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- Yeah.
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And that's-- - And God blesses.
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- Yeah.
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God makes up the difference.
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- Right. - [Jonathan] You know.
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- Right.
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Well we feel the
same with shooting
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the show even it's like many
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times we're tired and it's like
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we struggle to get the words out
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and to tell the story in a
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way that makes
sense even sometimes.
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And we get done and we're like,
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God's really gonna
have to work on this show.
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And then people call us
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and it's such a
blessing because our
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viewers are like,
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I was blessed by that story
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that you shared and we felt like
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we stumbled all over the story,
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but they understood
the story and it's like,
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that's only because
of the grace of God.
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Yeah.
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And so it's a
blessing to be able
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to be in his work
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and doing
what's really important
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in this world for the sake
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of the lost and
yet still feels small.
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- Yeah.
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- And know that
it's only because of him.
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- [Jonathan] Yeah.
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- That anything
good comes out of it.
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- Yeah, imagine
if we were trying
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to do this in our own strength.
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- [Natalie] Oh.
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- We would've
given up a long time ago.
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- Given up a long time ago.
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Yeah. - [Natalie] Yeah.
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But God is the
one, it's his work.
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He's the one that
empowers, it's all him.
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- Yeah.
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- [Jonathan] That's all him.
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- So if someone's
interested in video
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and working for
God like you are,
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where would you
suggest that they start?
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- Well, if
someone doesn't already
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have experience with video,
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the first step
is to practice, to.
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- Learn how to. - Practice
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is the most
basic thing you can do.
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Even if you just have a phone.
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Learn how to tell
a story, learn that
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the framework and
the different ways of how
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to tell a compelling story.
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Because if you can tell a story,
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even if you don't know how
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to film that good, the story,
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is what gives the
impact. - Comes through, right.
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- But of course
practice the technical side
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get to know
photography, videography
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and how to use a
camera to tell the story.
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But those are all
sort of side things
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to get connected with God
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and stay connected because he's
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the one that is our leader.
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Getting a job in
the film industry,
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you can make a lot of money.
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You can live a horrible
life working all the time.
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I mean, some people would think
00:16:14.64\00:16:15.57
that wasn't a horrible life,
00:16:15.57\00:16:16.60
but from my perspective,
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I wouldn't wanna do that.
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But working for God,
00:16:21.84\00:16:25.08
making videos for
God's work for his glory,
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the reward isn't here.
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The reward is in heaven
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and that's what's
gonna last forever.
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It's not here.
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- [Natalie] Yeah.
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- I can make
all the money I want
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and then I'm gonna die
00:16:38.26\00:16:39.46
and what's gonna
happen to the money,
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what good did it do me?
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- Right.
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- It's the perspective
of this is the big picture,
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it's God's work.
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Let's invest in what matters.
00:16:47.37\00:16:49.97
- Yeah.
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Invest in what matters,
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we were told a story recently,
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someone had met
some very wealthy
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people and they were older
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and looking toward not
having a future very soon.
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And they actually told him
00:17:04.55\00:17:06.52
that it would be easier to just
00:17:06.52\00:17:08.76
die and let the government deal
00:17:08.76\00:17:10.16
with the money in probate
00:17:10.16\00:17:11.29
courts, whatever,
00:17:11.29\00:17:12.49
than to have to figure out who
00:17:12.49\00:17:13.50
to give it away to or than
00:17:13.50\00:17:14.66
to give it away.
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It's like, it's
easier to die holding
00:17:16.77\00:17:18.33
onto it than to give it away.
00:17:18.33\00:17:21.57
And that's really heartbreaking
00:17:21.57\00:17:24.17
because we need to hold to God.
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- Yeah.
00:17:26.41\00:17:27.34
- Do you know what's important.
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Let go before it's too late.
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- [Jonathan] Yeah.
00:17:31.15\00:17:31.98
- And so I just, yeah,
00:17:31.98\00:17:33.25
I appreciate you
bringing that point out.
00:17:33.25\00:17:35.95
Now on the little
bit, on the lighter side,
00:17:35.95\00:17:38.32
you guys have a
YouTube channel, right?
00:17:38.32\00:17:41.49
- Yes, we do.
00:17:41.49\00:17:42.72
- So what is the point
of your YouTube channel?
00:17:42.72\00:17:44.89
- So we started the channel
00:17:44.89\00:17:47.50
like the same
year we got married.
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And our thinking,
the original goal was
00:17:49.53\00:17:51.90
we make videos
for this show, right?
00:17:51.90\00:17:54.64
For "Jesus for
Asia Now" and other
00:17:54.64\00:17:56.47
parts of "Jesus for Asia".
00:17:56.47\00:17:58.91
But we wanted to really have
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a YouTube channel that would
00:18:01.84\00:18:02.84
focus more on young people,
00:18:02.84\00:18:04.41
encouraging them
to consider missions
00:18:05.51\00:18:07.32
as a career option or
at least student missions.
00:18:07.32\00:18:11.75
Get the experience,
be in the mission field
00:18:11.75\00:18:14.22
serve God somehow, some way.
00:18:14.22\00:18:16.49
And I don't again,
00:18:17.59\00:18:19.93
with media it's really hard
00:18:19.93\00:18:21.06
to know what the seeds that
00:18:21.06\00:18:22.80
you're planting
are actually doing.
00:18:22.80\00:18:24.77
I often thought
00:18:26.00\00:18:27.27
if we can get one
person as a result
00:18:27.27\00:18:32.11
of our YouTube channel
00:18:32.77\00:18:34.24
to go as a missionary,
like it would be worth it.
00:18:34.24\00:18:37.11
And we've put hundreds of hours
00:18:37.11\00:18:38.91
into that YouTube channel
00:18:38.91\00:18:40.42
and just sort of to
tell you what it's about,
00:18:40.42\00:18:43.18
basically a lot of
it is just our life.
00:18:43.18\00:18:47.32
So what is it like for us
living in the mission field?
00:18:47.32\00:18:50.09
What are we learning
in the mission field?
00:18:50.09\00:18:52.26
What do you need to be aware
00:18:54.00\00:18:55.46
of when you go to
the mission field?
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Things like that.
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- Challenges
you might encounter.
00:18:57.60\00:18:59.23
- Yeah.
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And we've shared some of those.
00:19:00.30\00:19:01.34
- Vehicles that don't start
00:19:01.34\00:19:03.00
and you get stuck somewhere
00:19:03.00\00:19:04.71
and you're going somewhere
00:19:04.71\00:19:06.74
and suddenly
it's pouring down rain
00:19:06.74\00:19:07.91
and you're on a motorbike and.
00:19:07.91\00:19:09.21
- Yeah, yeah.
00:19:09.21\00:19:10.95
All sorts of things that
happen in the mission field.
00:19:10.95\00:19:13.52
So the amazing
thing is we were really,
00:19:14.62\00:19:18.55
really consistent with putting
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out a video every week
00:19:20.39\00:19:21.59
for like two or
three years I think.
00:19:21.59\00:19:23.79
And we've dropped off from
00:19:23.79\00:19:25.06
that 'cause we've
gotten really busy
00:19:25.06\00:19:26.33
since COVID sort of
the restrictions went away,
00:19:26.33\00:19:29.66
but there's actually a
family in Thailand now that's
00:19:30.93\00:19:34.40
not because of
"Mission Viewfinder",
00:19:36.07\00:19:38.11
that's the name of the channel,
00:19:38.11\00:19:40.08
but it was a significant impact
00:19:40.08\00:19:42.11
on them and they're actually
00:19:42.11\00:19:43.61
planning to come and work
00:19:43.61\00:19:44.45
with us in Nakhon Sawan
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which is mind blowing.
00:19:46.01\00:19:47.25
- Yeah, that was my
next question was like,
00:19:47.25\00:19:49.48
are you gonna get help for
00:19:49.48\00:19:50.75
the other part of the work that
00:19:50.75\00:19:52.42
you're doing in Thailand?
00:19:52.42\00:19:53.62
- [Jonathan] Yeah.
00:19:53.62\00:19:54.82
- Because it's
not just the video
00:19:54.82\00:19:55.72
work that you're doing.
00:19:55.72\00:19:56.93
You're also like
we've talked before,
00:19:56.93\00:19:59.39
trying to slowly reach out
00:19:59.39\00:20:01.56
to the people of Nakhon Sawan.
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- Yeah.
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So this family
is a precious family
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and they're right
now learning Thai.
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- Okay.
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- And then I'm not sure when
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hopefully next year they'll come
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and join us in Nakhon Sawan
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and we never
thought we're the ones
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to reach Nakhon Sawan
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- Right.
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- [Jonathan] God is the
one to reach Nakhon Sawan.
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- Right.
00:20:21.95\00:20:23.45
- And we're just thankful
that God is bringing in,
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the pieces that are needed there
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to reach the hearts
of the people there.
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- Right.
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So did you go to Nakhon Sawan
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with the idea that you're
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gonna do some sort of particular
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ministry work there or like
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you're gonna try to do
an English language school
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or church plant?
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Or did you go with that idea
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or what idea did you
go with when you went to.
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- Does it sound like
we have time, oh sorry.
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(all laughing)
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- Well time right.
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- Yeah.
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So I mean we went
there with the thought,
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we want there to be
a church plant here.
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We want there to be
a group of believers
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that are following God believe
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the three angels messages.
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But our approach
has been we're there
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to live there so that
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God can work through us
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and we're there
so that we can pray
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for people and
pray for the city.
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And we do that regularly.
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I would love it
if we could spend
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four times as much
time praying as we do,
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but we haven't gotten there yet.
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But really--
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- Well you have to kind of be
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home to pray in that city.
00:21:33.36\00:21:35.02
- Yeah.
00:21:35.02\00:21:36.49
- Also, I mean, you can
pray for it from a distance.
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- [Jonathan] Yeah.
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- Like we do from here.
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- Right.
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- But it is nice when you can
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walk there and pray there.
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I remember that zoom
call that you talked about,
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where you guys were actually
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walking through the park as we
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were all joined on Zoom
and we were all praying for the
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people that we saw and for
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it's really important to think
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about what their lives are
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like and to see them doing
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some of these prayer walks.
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We've seen people
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doing their laundry
out on the side of the road
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or worshiping the
monk when he's there
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and different things like that.
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It's so important and it makes
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it so much more real.
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It's not just some city
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in Thailand where you guys live.
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It's this
person that we've seen,
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this person jogging,
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this person
riding their bicycle.
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It makes it a lot more real.
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- Yeah.
00:22:28.58\00:22:29.81
And when we go into
exercise in the city,
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we usually go like four times
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a week in the evening and when
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I first started
out, I was just praying
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for people as I passed them
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and sometimes I get distracted
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but I try and
stay focused on that.
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And then it started to get old
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and I realized,
00:22:48.26\00:22:49.80
you know what this needs
a refresher or something.
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And I read something
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in the spirit of
prophecy that said that
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or it impressed in my mind
00:22:57.57\00:23:00.81
so strongly that when I'm in the
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park praying for people,
00:23:03.38\00:23:05.31
it's not just me
praying for people,
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it's me praying for people
00:23:07.98\00:23:09.12
and angels going to help those
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people to answer my prayers.
00:23:10.32\00:23:13.52
And so I pray for
that Lord, that person,
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they look discouraged.
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I don't know what's
going on in their life,
00:23:18.09\00:23:19.89
but I pray that you will
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be the answer
to their hearts cry
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and that you will help them
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in their greatest difficulty
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in a way that they
will recognize it's you.
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It's not chance,
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it's not happenstance,
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it's something
did this and another
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experience I wanna share
00:23:37.55\00:23:38.48
'cause it's really amazing.
00:23:38.48\00:23:39.88
We were reading a book,
Hannah was reading a book,
00:23:41.48\00:23:43.08
actually I'm reading it now,
00:23:43.08\00:23:44.52
about prayer walking and how
00:23:44.52\00:23:47.52
they suggested
walking on the streets
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and praying together out loud.
00:23:50.03\00:23:51.83
And we hadn't done that before.
00:23:52.89\00:23:54.83
So we're like,
okay, let's try this.
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So one Sabbath
morning we went to
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a part of the city that has all
00:24:02.90\00:24:04.61
the government
buildings or a lot of them.
00:24:04.61\00:24:07.34
So like 'cause the city
00:24:07.34\00:24:09.58
is the capital of the province.
00:24:09.58\00:24:11.58
So it's not just
the city buildings,
00:24:11.58\00:24:13.18
it's the provincial buildings.
00:24:13.18\00:24:14.28
Like the governor lives there,
00:24:14.28\00:24:15.82
immigration is there,
00:24:15.82\00:24:17.32
the city hall, like all
of government buildings.
00:24:17.32\00:24:20.62
So we went there
and we walked this like,
00:24:20.62\00:24:23.19
it was like five kilometers
00:24:23.19\00:24:24.79
I think loop around
this area of the city.
00:24:24.79\00:24:28.40
And we just prayed
out loud for the people,
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we prayed for the people
00:24:29.90\00:24:30.83
that work in the building.
00:24:30.83\00:24:31.70
Like we prayed over this
00:24:31.70\00:24:34.34
and we got back to
where we had parked.
00:24:34.34\00:24:37.61
And I had this distinct feeling
00:24:37.61\00:24:40.11
of satisfaction
and just fulfillment.
00:24:40.11\00:24:43.88
Like I hadn't
felt in quite a while.
00:24:43.88\00:24:46.21
And as I was
thinking about that,
00:24:47.22\00:24:48.72
why am I what is it
that's making me feel this way?
00:24:48.72\00:24:52.09
I realized-- -
[Natalie] Satisfied.
00:24:52.09\00:24:53.79
- It's because Satan's kingdom
00:24:54.76\00:24:57.53
is beginning to crumble.
00:24:57.53\00:24:59.56
Like what we just did,
00:24:59.56\00:25:01.03
even though we
just walked around
00:25:01.03\00:25:02.16
and said some words.
00:25:02.16\00:25:03.33
Right.
00:25:03.33\00:25:04.50
But it's much more than that.
00:25:04.50\00:25:05.57
- It's not just words.
00:25:05.57\00:25:06.40
Yeah.
00:25:06.40\00:25:07.34
- Because there's a whole thing
00:25:07.34\00:25:08.27
in the great controversy and I
00:25:08.27\00:25:09.20
don't know what that looked like
00:25:09.20\00:25:10.44
behind the scenes
of what we don't see,
00:25:10.44\00:25:12.07
but stuff was
happening and stuff
00:25:12.07\00:25:14.04
is happening as
a result of that.
00:25:14.04\00:25:16.31
- Yeah.
00:25:16.31\00:25:17.55
- So keeping in
mind that the big
00:25:17.55\00:25:18.51
picture of what we don't see
00:25:18.51\00:25:21.02
it's maybe we're just imagining
00:25:21.02\00:25:23.12
what it might exactly look like,
00:25:23.12\00:25:24.55
but stuff is happening behind
00:25:24.55\00:25:25.89
the scenes that
we don't get to see.
00:25:25.89\00:25:27.82
So we're in this
stage of reaching
00:25:27.82\00:25:29.59
Nakhon Sawan where most
00:25:29.59\00:25:31.23
of what we're doing,
00:25:31.23\00:25:32.06
we don't see results,
00:25:32.06\00:25:33.29
we don't see stuff,
00:25:33.29\00:25:34.40
but God is doing stuff.
00:25:34.40\00:25:35.56
We know that.
00:25:35.56\00:25:36.50
- Yeah.
00:25:36.50\00:25:37.57
- But that's the thing like
00:25:37.57\00:25:38.90
you know Satan
didn't want us to do
00:25:38.90\00:25:40.50
that because that morning for no
00:25:40.50\00:25:43.34
really apparent reason,
00:25:43.34\00:25:44.84
right before we went into town,
00:25:44.84\00:25:46.31
I started to just not
feel good and I was like,
00:25:46.31\00:25:48.04
I don't know if I can do this.
00:25:48.04\00:25:49.28
Like it was warm,
00:25:49.28\00:25:50.78
fairly warm weather already.
00:25:50.78\00:25:52.65
And I say warm, I mean hot.
00:25:52.65\00:25:54.62
And so I was just
like, I don't know,
00:25:54.62\00:25:56.32
but I just felt impressed like,
00:25:56.32\00:25:57.65
we need to go anyway.
00:25:57.65\00:25:58.89
So I don't think I
even said anything.
00:25:58.89\00:26:00.56
We just went and even as we were
00:26:00.56\00:26:02.82
having prayer by the river
00:26:02.82\00:26:04.69
before we started walking,
00:26:04.69\00:26:06.83
I was just like
leaning on the railing.
00:26:06.83\00:26:08.86
I was just like, I don't know,
00:26:08.86\00:26:09.70
I don't feel good,
00:26:09.70\00:26:10.93
but I don't know any
good reason for this.
00:26:10.93\00:26:12.50
Like this isn't normal.
00:26:12.50\00:26:13.97
And by the time we
got back I was fine.
00:26:13.97\00:26:16.40
And that isn't the first time
00:26:16.40\00:26:17.91
that something like that has
00:26:17.91\00:26:18.81
happened to us where one
00:26:18.81\00:26:19.81
or both of us just starts not
00:26:19.81\00:26:20.94
feeling good and then by the
00:26:20.94\00:26:22.71
time we're done with what we
00:26:22.71\00:26:23.65
needed to do, we feel fine.
00:26:23.65\00:26:25.11
It's like that wasn't
just an ordinary sickness,
00:26:25.11\00:26:27.55
that was the devil trying
to keep it from happening.
00:26:27.55\00:26:29.82
- Yeah.
00:26:29.82\00:26:30.75
That's happened before we go
00:26:30.75\00:26:31.69
on a trip in the middle of a
00:26:31.69\00:26:32.95
trip before we're gonna
shoot a story like yeah.
00:26:32.95\00:26:35.89
- [Hannah] Yeah.
00:26:35.89\00:26:37.09
- Satan doesn't
like what we're doing
00:26:37.09\00:26:38.03
and that's a good feeling.
00:26:38.03\00:26:38.69
(all laughing)
00:26:38.69\00:26:40.30
- Now you mentioned that you
00:26:40.30\00:26:41.20
did this on a Sabbath morning.
00:26:41.20\00:26:43.37
Why didn't you go to church
00:26:43.37\00:26:44.40
that day, to the Nice Adventist
00:26:44.40\00:26:46.30
church in your city?
00:26:46.30\00:26:47.94
- Well, there isn't one.
00:26:47.94\00:26:49.74
- Ah.
00:26:49.74\00:26:50.67
- That's why we moved there.
00:26:50.67\00:26:51.47
- [Natalie] Right.
00:26:51.47\00:26:52.41
- There's no church there.
00:26:52.41\00:26:53.17
The closest church to
us is about an hour away.
00:26:54.28\00:26:56.64
And it's a English church.
00:26:56.64\00:26:58.88
- There's no-- - With Filipinos,
00:26:58.88\00:27:00.82
there's no Thai people there.
00:27:00.82\00:27:02.35
And our burden is
to reach the Thai's.
00:27:02.35\00:27:04.65
So we want to see
00:27:05.62\00:27:06.99
a church group in
Nakhon Sawan that's worshiping
00:27:06.99\00:27:11.93
in Thai with Thai people there.
00:27:11.93\00:27:14.10
Learning about God.
00:27:14.93\00:27:15.93
- [Natalie] Yeah.
00:27:15.93\00:27:16.87
- Learning to follow God.
00:27:16.87\00:27:17.80
- Well, on that note,
00:27:17.80\00:27:19.03
I wanna thank you
both for being here
00:27:19.03\00:27:20.80
and sharing your
stories with us and we'll look
00:27:20.80\00:27:24.51
forward to seeing you on
00:27:24.51\00:27:25.91
camera at different
times, (Natalie laughing)
00:27:25.91\00:27:29.28
but we also look forward
00:27:29.28\00:27:30.28
to the stories that you get
00:27:30.28\00:27:31.71
to bring back to us to
share with our viewers.
00:27:31.71\00:27:35.02
- Thank you for the
opportunity to share.
00:27:35.02\00:27:36.79
- Yes.
00:27:36.79\00:27:37.99
- And I wanna
thank you for joining
00:27:37.99\00:27:38.92
us today and if you would
00:27:38.92\00:27:40.39
like to be
involved in the ministry
00:27:40.39\00:27:42.82
that Jonathan
and Hannah are doing,
00:27:42.82\00:27:44.76
or any of the ministries
00:27:44.76\00:27:45.96
that we have talked
about on the show today,
00:27:45.96\00:27:47.73
please contact us at
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00:27:47.73\00:27:52.50
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00:27:52.50\00:27:54.60
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00:27:56.10\00:28:01.11
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00:28:01.11\00:28:04.11
May God richly bless you until
00:28:04.11\00:28:05.71
we see you next time
on "Jesus for Asia Now".
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(gentle music)
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