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- Hello and welcome
to "Jesus for Asia Now."
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I'm Natalie Wood, and my husband
Jon is here with me today
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as we go to India
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and take a glimpse into
the life of a Bible worker.
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Hello, love.
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- Hi, darling.
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How are you?
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- I'm doing fine, thank you.
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- Good, awesome.
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- What are we gonna
learn about India today?
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- Well, we're
gonna meet Emmanuel.
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He's a Bible worker that
was born and raised in India.
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Knows the local language,
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didn't have to buy a
plane ticket to get him there.
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Knows the culture,
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is able to fit
in with the locals,
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and doing a powerful work.
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And we're gonna
learn today about how a lot
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of the Bible workers
joined the workforce.
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- Well, let's start with a video
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where he talks about
how he was converted.
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- Okay, good.
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(soothing music)
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(speaking native language)
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- I am a from
strong Hindu background.
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The whole village is filled
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with Hindu beliefs and gods.
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I was roaming just like a Sadhu
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with a colorful dress.
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I don't want Christians,
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I hate Christians like anything.
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In 1990, one reverend
from other denomination
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came to my village
to preach about Jesus.
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I went and fought it with him,
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and chased him
out of my village.
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That man went
away to some distance
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and came again and told,
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"I will finish my prayer.
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Gimme 10 minutes.
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After that, I will come
stand right in front of you.
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You beat me as you like."
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As he was
preaching in the street,
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I could see a lady
rolling on the ground,
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because of devil possession.
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She started yelling,
saying, "I am Monishuran."
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Now what I thought
was that Monishuran
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was the greatest
god in the village.
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And now Monishuran has come.
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He will take
care of this pastor.
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There is no need for
me to beat that reverend.
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But he said,
looking at that women,
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"Be silent.
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Don't make noise."
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Again, she started shouting.
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But this pastor, came
forward without any fear,
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put his hand up on that
lady's head and started praying.
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All of a sudden, that
woman fell on the ground.
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Seeing this, the
fear filled my heart.
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The Monishuran is the
greatest god in our village.
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That god itself fell on
the feet of this reverend.
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I came and knelt
before that reverend.
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On seeing this, my parents,
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they also started crying.
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"Something may
happen to my son."
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But that pastor
encouraged my parents,
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"Don't worry about anything.
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We will not do any
harm to your child."
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I accepted Jesus as my
personal savior from that time.
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I started my
ministry even in that year
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when I accepted
Christ as my personal savior.
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For six years almost, I
did my ministry on my own.
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Since it is a village
filled with the Hindus,
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I faced lot of challenges
from anti-Christian elements.
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There was no support for me,
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so they started
giving many tortures to me.
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Whenever visit sit
the villages in that area,
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they came and beat me.
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They spoke so many
unwanted words on me.
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They pulled my Bible
and threw it so many times.
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One day I was
returning from my ministry
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around 12 o'clock at midnight.
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Just half a
kilometer from my village
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around 10 people
who were waiting for me.
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And they came
and caught my collar,
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and told me, "Don't
tell about Jesus anymore
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in these villages."
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They started to beat me.
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In that group, four
people stood in support of me.
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"What wrong is he doing?
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He's doing good
things to our village people.
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Why should we beat him?
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Leave him alone and come."
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But they went away.
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These six people
took me to the riverside.
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They beat me and
threw me by the river.
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I was faint, and
I was not conscious.
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After two hours of time,
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I slowly opened my
eyes and came to my home.
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That reverend took me
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and put me in a
theology college in Chennai,
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so that I can be
trained as a good evangelist.
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As I was
studying there in Chennai,
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one day I saw the handbills
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saying Sabbath
day is the Saturday.
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I took that pamphlet in my hand
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and it showed to the teacher.
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The teacher took me to the
correspondent of that college.
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That correspondent of
the colleague asked me,
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"What's your problem?"
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I said, "The Bible says
that Saturday is the Sabbath,
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but what about you?"
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He said, "You don't
speak about anything.
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You take this vehicle key.
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It belongs to you.
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Not only that,
when you come later,
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we will arrange
some good house for you.
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Now, I am blessed with
all this kind of material,
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because of this
truth where I am in.
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So you also be in,
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don't ask me any question."
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But again and
again, I asked him,
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"You tell me. You tell me."
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Then he looked
at me and told me,
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"Saturday is the Sabbath day.
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I also agree, I also accept it.
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But in practical life, it
is very hard to observe it.
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Today what I am is not
because of the Sabbath Saturday.
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It is because of what I believe.
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that Sunday is Sabbath day.
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So if you want to
continue, continue,
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Or else quit the college."
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Then I came out of that college.
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I came to my native place.
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When I went to one small
town near my native place,
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there I saw a man
preaching in that church.
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His name was
Pastor Akhab Daniel.
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After I came in contact
with that Pastor Akhab Daniel,
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I fully understood the truth
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and accepted truth,
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and got baptism
in the year 1996.
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In 2022, he joined the JFA.
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Although he
joined the JFA in 2022,
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he's working in this
village even before that.
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- Wow, what a story.
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- Mmm.
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- I'm trying to remember,
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everything that he went through,
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he got converted because the,
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a guy came to his
village and started preaching,
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and he was gonna go beat him up.
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But the guy
said, "Gimme 10 minutes
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to finish my prayer."
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And then a woman came
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and that was possessed the best
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by the strongest
God in the village.
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- [Natalie] Right.
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- And he thought,
well, I don't have
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to beat up the Christian,
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because this god, the
strongest God in our village,
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is gonna beat him up for me.
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- Yeah.
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- And the Christian
came over and prayed,
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and expelled the
demon from the woman.
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- Yeah. - And he was shocked.
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And he humbled him himself.
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And he,
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and he, you know,
became a Christian,
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because he saw that
Christ was stronger than--
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- Than the other god.
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- [Jon] Yeah. - Yeah.
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- And then he got
a lot of beatings.
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- [Natalie] Yeah.
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- He said he traveled
around like (indistinct),
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it's like a itinerant preacher.
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- Right. - In India.
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Very well known
type of thing to do.
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And a lot of holy
men travel around and,
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and teach Hinduism,
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and different things to
the villagers and stuff, so.
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- Yeah, he was very
devout. - [Jon] Yes.
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- Obviously. - Yeah.
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- [Natalie] So--
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- And then he got beat up a lot.
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And then he got
sent to a college.
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- Yeah.
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- And the
director of the college
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believed in the
Sabbath day, but said--
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- But wouldn't keep it.
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No, because the
wealth-- - [Jon] Yeah.
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- The material
things were more important
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than keeping the
Sabbath of the Bible.
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- Yeah, he
offered Emmanuel a car.
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- [Natalie] Yeah. -
And a nice place to live.
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And food, good food
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if he would
forget about the Sabbath.
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- Yeah. - [Jon] Wow.
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- Yeah.
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- But he left that
place for his convictions.
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- Right.
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And so he started doing,
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started doing Bible work on
his own, ministry on his own.
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- [Jon] Yeah.
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- And then he
was able to join JFA
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as a Bible worker recently.
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- Yeah, and so now
we have the opportunity
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to be a part of the
souls that he wins to Christ--
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- Mm-hmm.
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- By supporting him.
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- Right, and speaking of
souls that he wins to Christ,
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the next video
that we have is someone
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that was
converted from his ministry.
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- Oh, cool.
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(soothing music)
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(speaking native language)
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- We were
Hindus in this village.
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My father was a
priest in on temple.
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My elder sister got married
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to the Adventist Christian.
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After my sister's marriage,
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my sister husband took
very much interest in us
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and tried to
give the truth to us.
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I had the severe problem
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of blood oozing
from my nose every day,
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three times.
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It was so ugly to look at.
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Everybody hated me
because of this problem.
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When I got
baptized in the church,
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that problem stopped.
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Still it is the
surprise for me how it stopped.
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The very moment I got baptism,
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from that day onwards
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that blood oozing
from my nose stopped.
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Actually, I fell in
love with a Hindu man.
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My sister's husband
told me so many times,
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"Don't involve yourself in
marriage with a Hindu man."
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But I was not
willing to listen to him.
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After my marriage,
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my life become very
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stressful.
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Very much painful.
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He used to drink every
day and beat me like anything.
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Sometimes he will
pull me into the street
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and started beating me.
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Still, I am suffering.
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But one good thing,
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I was longing
for the love of God
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for so many years in my life,
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because my sisters
husband and family,
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they were Christians,
Seventh-day Adventists.
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I was kneeling down
and praying to the Lord,
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"Lord, we want to have some
worship here in this place."
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The Lord answered my prayer.
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That is the reason
the JFA Pastor Emmanuel
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came to this village
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and started a prayer
group here in this place.
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The problem with my husband is
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when he takes this alcohol,
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he beats me.
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Other times, he's very okay.
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Whenever he leaves the house
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into the liquor shop,
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I used to start
praying, kneeling down,
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"Lord, today he
has gone to drink.
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He'll come back, he'll beat me,
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and nothing should happen."
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God answers my prayer.
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When I pray
sincerely on my knees,
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he goes to the liquor shop,
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he takes alcohol,
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he comes back.
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He goes to his bedroom,
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and he sleeps in peace.
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He's not disturbing me.
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God is answering me.
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He says, "You go to
church, no problem."
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He never disturbed
me coming to church.
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I in my house also,
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you cannot see any
Swami pictures, idols.
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Even for smaller little things,
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I asked the Lord only.
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I put my son in
the private school.
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And the school people
were asking for the fee.
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I have no money in my hand.
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I knelt down and
cried to the Lord.
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"Lord, I don't have any money.
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It is because of
you, in believing you,
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I put my son in
the private school."
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Then the Lord
answered my prayer.
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Within an hour when man came
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and gave me a little money.
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He told me, "You
can return it later.
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Now you pay the
fee for your son."
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Likewise, God is doing
wonderful things in my life.
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It may be little things,
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or it may be bigger things.
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I trust in the Lord.
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I ask the Lord only.
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I seek the Lord in tears.
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God always answers my prayer.
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I am in the midst
of all this problem,
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but I am feeling free in Jesus.
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Her wish is that
husband will be converted,
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accept Christ.
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And she wants to go to ministry,
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and tell the love of
God to many other people
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along with their husband.
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(music ending)
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- Well, the love of Jesus
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makes such an
impact in people's lives.
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- Yeah, yeah, beautiful.
00:13:07.82\00:13:10.22
- I love the ripple effect.
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You know, one soul is converted,
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starts praying for another.
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That soul is converted,
starts praying for another,
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and it just keeps
on going on and on
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and ever widening
circle of joy and peace.
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- Mm-mmm, yeah.
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And now she wants
to be telling people
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about Jesus also.
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- Yeah.
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- About what she learned.
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- But I think
we can all join her
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in praying for her husband.
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- Yes, definitely.
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- And maybe she'll
become a JFA Bible worker.
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- Yeah, maybe-- -
With good training.
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- Yep. - Yeah.
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- Definitely. - Awesome.
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- Well, now we
have a miracle story.
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- Okay.
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(soothing music)
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(speaking native language)
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- I like to share my greatest
miracle God did in my life.
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- She used to tell me,
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"Pastor I am not able to come
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and attend your prayer meeting.
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Even if I come, I
don't understand where I am."
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Whenever she comes and attends,
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she undergoes some body
pain and unusual depression.
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But immediately she
leaves the prayer meetings,
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she's okay.
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- I had this
problem for long years.
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I will feel like 200
kilogram stone is upon my body.
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I used to come to church.
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I used to clean this place.
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I used to put the
mat and everything.
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But all of a sudden,
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I will lie on the mat itself.
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The pastor used to
notice me and one day asked me,
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"What is your problem?"
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I said, "Pastor, I
don't know how to explain it.
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I feel an unusual way,
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I am not happy.
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I am irritated at everybody.
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If anybody ask me anything,
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I will answer them angrily.
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I was not able
to control myself."
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Then the pastor told me,
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"If that is the case,
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we will have
the fasting prayer."
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- So, I did two
days continuously fasting
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without taking any food.
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- As he instructed me,
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I came to the
church with a clean dress.
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I sat here.
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- As we started praying
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she fell on the
ground and started roiling.
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- As soon as he
kept my hand on my head,
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I felt more than 10
people are surrounded me
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and putting all
their weight upon me.
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Then I started
crying and crying,
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shouting and shouting.
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- The spirit told us,
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"I have been for
last 10 years with her.
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How can you chase me right now?"
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The spirit was
again and again saying,
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"No, no, you cannot
chase me out of this body.
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I like her.
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I am with her last 10 years.
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You cannot chase me."
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But I commanded, "In the
name of Jesus, you go out."
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- After that prayer,
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I woke up.
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I was so free!
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I felt so easy as I
am flying in the air.
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- Now she is not having
any that kind of problem.
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- I would like to thank
the Lord again and again,
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because he has done
this wonder in my life.
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(music ending)
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- I love that,
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he has done the
wonder in my life.
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- Yeah. - That's so beautiful.
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You know, she was,
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she didn't know it
was demon possession.
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She thought it was
just some weight, you know?
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- [Jon] Yeah.
00:16:47.90\00:16:48.84
- She just felt really heavy
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when she went to
church and depressed, but--
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- [Jon] Yeah. = It was a demon.
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- Yeah, and did
you see the glint,
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the the light
in the lady's eyes?
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- [Natalie] Yeah. -
That's what we see--
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- The smile on her
face, that smile at peace.
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- Yeah, when you first meet
people that don't know Christ,
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they have this darkness, this,
00:17:02.75\00:17:04.42
this fear,
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this haunting in their eyes.
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And after they
get to know Christ,
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they have that light, that life.
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And it's just so
rewarding to see.
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- Yeah.
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- [Jon] The change
that happens in them.
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- Yeah. - [Jon] Yeah.
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- Yeah, it's beautiful.
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And you know,
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it makes me just so thankful
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that we can
enable the Bible workers.
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- [Jon] Yes. - Because it,
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it makes a huge difference
in one life after another
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after another.
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- Yes.
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- You know, it is just awesome.
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- Yeah, and that's--
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- Put it mildly,
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God is awesome.
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- Yeah, so do we have
too many Bible workers?
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Or we have enough Bible
workers to reach all of India?
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- Well, no,
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we don't have enough Bible
workers to reach all of India.
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- [Jon] Okay.
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- And we have one part of India
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that we wanna share a report on.
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- Okay, yeah.
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We just got a report,
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as actually a request.
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In the area that is
overseen by this president
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and pastor of a section
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in an unnamed
state, unnamed location.
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There is an entire denomination
that has about 150 churches.
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- Mmm.
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- And that
denomination has decided
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to withdraw from that area.
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- Mmm.
00:18:14.42\00:18:15.59
- And so now these
churches are available,
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they would like to
sell us the churches
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for the price of the land.
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And so I'm looking at,
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not so excited
about more churches,
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except that the churches
have congregations in them.
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- Right, so we need training.
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- Well, that's the challenge.
- [Natalie] We need workers.
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- That's the challenge is
00:18:36.81\00:18:37.98
because the
president was telling us,
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they said they have 80,
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80 churches already,
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15 companies.
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So, they have 95
groups of people gathering,
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but they only have 17 pastors.
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- Mmm.
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- And 5 volunteer Bible workers.
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So, they have 22
full-time gospel workers
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trying to take care of
95 churches and companies.
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That's not enough.
00:19:01.24\00:19:02.80
- That's--
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- And now we have the
opportunity to add another 150,
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or even you know,
00:19:07.88\00:19:09.11
it's like there's a
huge need for workers.
00:19:09.11\00:19:11.48
- [Natalie] Right.
00:19:11.48\00:19:12.75
- And so what
can we do about that?
00:19:12.75\00:19:14.55
- Right.
00:19:14.55\00:19:15.75
- Well, we need
more Bible workers.
00:19:15.75\00:19:17.22
- [Natalie] Right.
00:19:17.22\00:19:18.49
- And we need
training for the Bible workers.
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Now, recently, a friend
of ours who is a pastor,
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he voluntarily--
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- He's from America.
00:19:25.93\00:19:26.90
- Yes,
00:19:26.90\00:19:28.10
voluntarily said,
"I would like to go
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and do three weeks of training."
00:19:30.80\00:19:32.63
Can you tell us about
that experience with him?
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- Well, he was in
India for about a month.
00:19:36.91\00:19:38.71
- [Jon] Uh-huh.
00:19:38.71\00:19:40.18
- And they did training
after training after training--
00:19:40.18\00:19:41.64
- [Jon] Uh-huh.
00:19:41.64\00:19:43.18
- [Natalie] At the property
that we own in South India.
00:19:43.18\00:19:44.75
- [Jon] Yeah.
00:19:44.75\00:19:45.98
- And it was hot
there, it was 109 some days.
00:19:45.98\00:19:48.92
- [Jon] Uh-huh.
00:19:48.92\00:19:50.15
- And some days
the power was off.
00:19:50.15\00:19:51.49
- [Jon] Uh-huh.
00:19:51.49\00:19:52.65
- [Natalie] So
there were no fans,
00:19:52.65\00:19:53.36
there's no AC.
00:19:53.36\00:19:54.62
- [Jon] Yep.
00:19:54.62\00:19:56.06
- [Natalie] It was a
great challenge for them.
00:19:56.06\00:19:57.36
- [Jon] Yeah.
00:19:57.36\00:19:58.83
- [Natalie] But the
Bible workers were so happy
00:19:58.83\00:20:01.00
to receive the training.
00:20:01.00\00:20:02.06
- [Jon] Yes, yes.
00:20:02.06\00:20:03.03
- And to go deeper in God's word
00:20:03.03\00:20:04.53
and to talk about what
church planting looks like.
00:20:04.53\00:20:07.20
And so it was,
00:20:07.20\00:20:08.97
it was a powerful experience
it sounds like from them.
00:20:08.97\00:20:12.77
We were getting a lot
of reports from Israel,
00:20:12.77\00:20:14.81
our director, in India.
00:20:14.81\00:20:16.75
"Here's video from this morning.
00:20:16.75\00:20:18.65
You know, somebody's leading
00:20:18.65\00:20:19.81
out in morning
worship, here's pictures."
00:20:19.81\00:20:21.62
- [Jon] Yeah. - And so--
00:20:21.62\00:20:23.12
- So what's the upshot
after that's all said and done?
00:20:23.12\00:20:25.72
What's his dream?
00:20:25.72\00:20:28.19
- He wants to do more training.
00:20:28.19\00:20:30.16
He sees the desperate,
00:20:30.16\00:20:32.19
desperate need for training.
00:20:32.19\00:20:34.10
- [Jon] Yeah.
00:20:34.10\00:20:35.13
- For the Bible workers there.
00:20:35.13\00:20:36.10
- Yeah, so we, in that property,
00:20:36.10\00:20:37.97
we've decided to start
a nonstop training program
00:20:37.97\00:20:41.90
with local retired
pastors and administrators
00:20:41.90\00:20:46.04
for Bible
workers from across India
00:20:46.04\00:20:48.18
with proper translation.
00:20:48.18\00:20:50.08
There's also another couple
00:20:50.08\00:20:51.91
that has spent
the last four years
00:20:51.91\00:20:54.35
developing
beautiful training material.
00:20:54.35\00:20:56.65
- Right.
00:20:56.65\00:20:58.15
- And so they're doing
four month training programs.
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And so training is
ongoing, but there's--
00:20:59.65\00:21:02.02
- Right, it's increasing.
00:21:02.02\00:21:03.22
- It's increasing.
00:21:03.22\00:21:04.46
And there's more and
more requests for it.
00:21:04.46\00:21:06.29
- Mm-hmm.
00:21:06.29\00:21:07.66
- And training not only
extends the reach of the gospel,
00:21:07.66\00:21:10.73
but also builds up those
that are in the church already
00:21:10.73\00:21:13.84
that are in the faith already,
00:21:13.84\00:21:15.64
gives them new insights,
00:21:15.64\00:21:17.17
new tools to share,
00:21:17.17\00:21:18.81
new things to share,
00:21:18.81\00:21:20.04
and builds up the
church that is already there.
00:21:20.04\00:21:22.58
- Right, right.
00:21:22.58\00:21:24.01
- Because there's a lot of
things that we take for granted.
00:21:24.01\00:21:25.71
A lot of knowledge
of stories, let's say.
00:21:25.71\00:21:27.95
Even the stories of
the Bible, what they mean,
00:21:27.95\00:21:30.52
and the lessons
we can get from them
00:21:30.52\00:21:33.02
for people that are just
00:21:34.62\00:21:35.86
that don't have the
Christian background,
00:21:35.86\00:21:37.16
haven't grown up with the Bible.
00:21:37.16\00:21:38.79
And with a lot of people talking
about the Bible, you know,
00:21:38.79\00:21:41.70
Christianity is still maybe
2.5% of the entire population.
00:21:41.70\00:21:45.30
- Right. - In India,
00:21:45.30\00:21:46.53
those kinds of
trainings are super important.
00:21:46.53\00:21:49.20
And the Bible
workers just love them.
00:21:49.20\00:21:51.07
- Yes. - Just soak it up.
00:21:51.07\00:21:52.97
- Yes, and it really helps also,
00:21:52.97\00:21:54.48
because they don't have
a lot of the study tools
00:21:54.48\00:21:56.54
that we have. - [Jon] Right.
00:21:56.54\00:21:57.81
- You know, we have
the Strong's Concordance,
00:21:57.81\00:21:59.11
we have the Bible Concords,
00:21:59.11\00:22:01.05
the SDA Bible commentaries--
00:22:01.05\00:22:02.48
- Uh-huh. - You know,
00:22:02.48\00:22:03.42
different things like that.
00:22:03.42\00:22:04.85
They don't have all those
tools in their native language.
00:22:04.85\00:22:06.69
- Yeah.
00:22:06.69\00:22:07.96
- They might
have portions of them.
00:22:07.96\00:22:09.46
They don't have Ellen White
books in their native language
00:22:09.46\00:22:11.26
all of them available.
00:22:11.26\00:22:12.23
- Yeah, right.
00:22:12.23\00:22:13.50
- They have
some, but some of them,
00:22:13.50\00:22:15.20
it's kind of an intimidating,
00:22:15.20\00:22:16.43
you know, "Desire of
Ages" is two volumes--
00:22:16.43\00:22:18.40
- Mm-hmm.
00:22:18.40\00:22:19.37
- Very thick volumes,
00:22:19.37\00:22:20.80
because of the
difference in language and how,
00:22:20.80\00:22:23.27
how many characters it takes
00:22:23.27\00:22:24.64
to write the same
amount of information, so--
00:22:24.64\00:22:26.07
(Jon laughing softly)
00:22:26.07\00:22:27.71
- Right.
00:22:27.71\00:22:28.64
- It's a challenge for them,
00:22:28.64\00:22:29.88
'cause there's
no indexes and no,
00:22:29.88\00:22:31.91
you know, no ways
to search through.
00:22:31.91\00:22:33.95
- A lot of things--
00:22:33.95\00:22:35.22
- Yeah, things
we take for granted.
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- Right.
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- Like I have a
Bible app on my phone.
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- [Jon] Yeah.
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- I can go and search
in my native language.
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They don't have
all of those tools.
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- Right.
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- You know, if
they-- - They don't have--
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- If they speak English,
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they might be able to find it
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if they have the
English tools, but--
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- [Jon] Right.
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- It's still,
it's very difficult
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especially for the
average Bible worker.
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- Yeah.
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- And so that's one of our,
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one of our goals
with the training.
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- [Jon] Right.
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- Is to enable them to
know exactly where things are
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in the
scripture, how to find them,
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what they mean. - [Jon] Right.
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- How to explain
it to other people.
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You know, all
these things that--
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- [Jon] Yeah.
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- We take for granted.
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- Yeah, and it's very important,
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especially people that
are coming out of Hinduism
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and going straight
into being Bible teachers.
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Sometimes that's
the best way to do it,
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because they
still have connections,
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and they're still on fire,
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but they need the training.
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They need the ongoing training.
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And so we've been
praying for many, many years
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that we can do
non-stop training.
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And we had the opportunity,
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but then Covid hit.
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- Mmm.
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- And so now
the door open again,
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we're gonna go forward,
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and so please we can invite
our viewers to pray for these--
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- [Natalie] Right. -
The training programs
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that they can be the
blessing that they could be.
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- Right.
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- You know, full potential.
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But to do the training we need,
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we have a boys, a men's dorm.
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We don't have a girls' dorm,
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and we need like a
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school chapel kind of building
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to facilitate that
training. - [Natalie] Right.
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- And we'll talk
more about this later.
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- Right.
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- About what that's
like and what the needs are.
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And there were some
miracles that happened
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during that training.
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- Yeah, I'm looking
forward to sharing those
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with our viewers.
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- Yeah, that's
pretty exciting, so.
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- But that will
have to be another time.
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- Yeah, but in the meantime,
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we can really
pray for that area that
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has the opportunity to
buy all those churches.
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- Right, right,
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and for workers--
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- [Jon] Uh-huh.
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- To go to these
places. - Uh-huh.
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- Because obviously
there aren't workers there.
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- [Jon] Right.
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- Because this is a
different denomination,
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there's
different kind of workers.
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- Right.
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- There aren't enough
workers for these areas.
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- [Jon] Right.
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- So it's really
important that training happens.
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- Yeah.
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- Especially for anyone.
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I mean the
average church members,
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how much do they
know about their Bibles?
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- Right.
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- Some of them don't even read.
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- [Jon] Right.
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- So that's why verbal
training is important also.
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- Yeah, and if we don't take
advantage of this opportunity,
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a lot of these churches
will just go unattached.
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I've been in
villages up in North India
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where the
denomination was very strong
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that they joined
many many years ago,
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but 20, 30, 40 years ago,
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the denomination left the area.
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And so now you've got entire
villages that are unattached,
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and they're,
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they call themselves Christians,
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but there's
very little training,
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there's very little support.
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There's very little
connection with other believers.
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And so they're
just kind of villagers
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that are drifting and--
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- Right. - And it would be--
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- And sometimes the
other beliefs creep back in.
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- Oh, sure.
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Yeah, go back to the
animist or you know--
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- Hindu or--
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- Yeah, that kind of belief.
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So there's a lot of
prayer that needs to happen.
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That's the only way
that we believe things
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are gonna really come together,
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because the project
is way too large for us.
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It's beyond our abilities.
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We can't even
wrap our mind around
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what it would take
to make this happen.
00:25:47.41\00:25:48.91
- Right.
00:25:48.91\00:25:50.15
- But God knows
how to make it happen.
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- [Natalie] Right.
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- And so with earnest prayer,
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I know that he's
gonna open the door.
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- Yeah. - [Jon] Yeah.
00:25:55.82\00:25:57.12
- Yeah, and he'll
provide the workers.
00:25:57.12\00:25:58.79
- Yes, and we
constantly get new requests
00:25:58.79\00:26:01.99
for more Bible workers.
00:26:01.99\00:26:03.43
- Yeah.
00:26:03.43\00:26:04.63
- From different
parts around India,
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and it's not just India.
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We have Bible workers like this
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in Bangladesh and
in the Philippines.
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It's just a program.
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And Indonesia and
other countries also,
00:26:13.37\00:26:16.00
there's just a program.
00:26:16.00\00:26:17.47
We're getting requests
from Sri Lanka and Malaysia,
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and it's just unnamed countries.
00:26:20.81\00:26:23.08
- Right.
00:26:23.08\00:26:24.01
- The sensitive countries.
00:26:24.01\00:26:24.81
- [Natalie] Right.
00:26:24.81\00:26:25.95
- In fact, the
sensitive countries really
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have some of the most
exciting stories of all
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that we can't share.
00:26:31.72\00:26:32.72
- Right.
00:26:32.72\00:26:33.99
- It's kinda like,
you know, you go fishing,
00:26:33.99\00:26:35.49
and it's the one that got
away is always the biggest.
00:26:35.49\00:26:36.93
- Yeah, of
course. (both laughing)
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- But this is one you
can't tell, talk about.
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But it's,
00:26:41.40\00:26:42.30
it's developing
into a huge need.
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And the growth and expansion
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into the
sensitive countries are,
00:26:48.30\00:26:52.11
are massive. - Right.
00:26:52.11\00:26:54.01
- And beautiful.
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But we can't talk about that.
00:26:55.24\00:26:56.51
- Right, so--
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- [Jon] When we need
to keep that in prayer.
00:26:57.71\00:26:58.88
- So that's a good
reason to be faithful--
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- [Jon] Yes.
00:27:00.45\00:27:01.68
- And go to heaven and
hear all those stories.
00:27:01.68\00:27:02.32
- Yes!
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That's where it's all at.
00:27:03.42\00:27:04.39
- Because we will hear them all.
00:27:04.39\00:27:05.69
- Yeah, and that's
the thing, you know,
00:27:05.69\00:27:07.19
with foreign mission work
is like one of the few places
00:27:07.19\00:27:10.23
that you can
really give unselfishly.
00:27:10.23\00:27:13.76
- Mmm.
00:27:13.76\00:27:14.96
- You know, you give
to tithe so that you,
00:27:14.96\00:27:16.80
because that belongs to God.
00:27:16.80\00:27:18.67
You wanna keep
that relationship,
00:27:18.67\00:27:20.94
and you give to the
local church budget,
00:27:20.94\00:27:22.70
so that you can go
and enjoy air conditioning
00:27:22.70\00:27:24.91
in the summer and
heating in the winter.
00:27:24.91\00:27:26.78
But for missions,
00:27:26.78\00:27:28.01
you'll never see
that until heaven.
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- Yeah, that's the cast
your bred upon in waters.
00:27:30.35\00:27:33.01
- [Jon] Yes.
00:27:33.01\00:27:34.22
- And it will come
back after many days.
00:27:34.22\00:27:35.78
- Yes, exactly.
00:27:35.78\00:27:36.99
- We don't know how many days.
00:27:36.99\00:27:37.89
- [Jon] Right.
00:27:37.89\00:27:39.12
- But that's
where faith comes in.
00:27:39.12\00:27:40.06
- Yeah, just as God leads.
00:27:40.06\00:27:41.92
- [Natalie] Yep. - Yeah.
00:27:41.92\00:27:43.32
- If you would like to
support amazing Bible workers
00:27:43.32\00:27:45.96
like Emmanuel
00:27:45.96\00:27:47.36
in India and other
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