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- [Natalie] Hello and
welcome to Jesus For Asia Now.
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I'm Natalie Wood
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and my husband John
is here with me today.
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We are going on Part 2
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of our inspiring journey
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with publishing in Cambodia.
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Hello, love.
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- [John] Hi, darling,
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how are you?
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- [Natalie] I'm doing well.
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- [John] Awesome.
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- [Natalie] I'm looking forward
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to the rest of
the Rogers' journey.
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- [John] That's
exciting, isn't it?
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To see God moving,
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like He does
such evident miracles.
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- [John] Right.
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Can you fill us
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in a little bit what
people might have missed
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if they didn't see
the previous episode?
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- [John] Sure.
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In the previous episode, Part 1,
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we learned about the
Rogers who were inspired
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by the desperate need for
literature in Southeast Asia
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and how they had
decided to go over to Cambodia.
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Originally, they were
going to go to Thailand,
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but they ended up in Cambodia,
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and how property
was provided for them.
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And they had to
like clean out a house,
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and then they had
to order equipment,
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and they were unsure
about how it was gonna go.
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But during a faith camp,
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they were able to connect
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with the audience over Zoom
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and said that they
either had the $50,000 package
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that they could get
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or the $150,000
package that would allow them
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to print much more and
like book sizes very easily.
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- [Natalie] Right, and
much more cost effectively.
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- [John] Yeah.
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And someone donated
two to one matching grant
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of $100,000.
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And within a couple days
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of that
matching grant coming in,
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they had the other 50,000.
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So they almost
immediately had $150,000.
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- [Natalie] Right.
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- [John] So then he
went and looked at online
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and found some
equipment in Europe
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to purchase some
printing equipment.
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But during shipping,
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the sender and the
receiver didn't realize
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that there were two ports
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and one port went
through vie Vietnam
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and two of the four
containers got stuck in Vietnam.
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- [Natalie] Right.
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- [John] And I remember
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when we were
talking to him and he says,
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"Well, there's
only a couple days left,
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only a few days left
until the cutoff deadline is
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and if we don't get
the container by then,
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then we just have
to start all over,
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look for new equipment."
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And for some reason,
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the very last day of
the possibility of it being
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received, it
showed up in the dock.
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- [Natalie] Yeah, one of them.
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- [John] One of them, yes.
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- [Natalie] Yes.
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And the other one
came through also,
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although there was
no cost for one of them
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and nobody knew
how it got there.
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And the other one,
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there was a little bit of-
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- [John] There was a
$20,000 fee for the second one.
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He didn't know how
he was gonna pay for it,
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but for some reason,
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somebody in the middle of
the night messaged him and said,
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"I felt impressed to
donate $20,000 for shipping."
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- [Natalie] Yeah.
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- [John] And so these
are the miracles that we saw
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as the equipment
was coming to his place.
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Now, this first video
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that we're gonna
show is him talking about,
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"I've got equipment coming,
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where do I put it?"
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- [Natalie] Right.
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So let's watch that now.
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- [John] Okay.
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(gentle music)
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- I had the
equipment ordered and coming.
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So now you have to have
a place for the equipment.
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And so I started
looking at building it
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and how big to build
it and how to build it.
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Here, they don't use wood.
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They do for some houses
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but most of what's done
is either concrete or metal.
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So I ended up going the
route of a metal building.
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The metal siding is
actually a sandwich panel.
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So that means that there's
a metal sheet on the inside,
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about four inches of insulation
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and then a metal
sheet on the outside.
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And that's the siding
in the walls and the roof.
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The building is 12
meters by 18 meters.
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It's big enough for
the equipment that I wanted
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with a little
bit of room to grow,
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as well as room to store books
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'cause that's
actually one of the needs, too,
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is most of the missions
don't have room to store books.
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Just a brief
look at the equipment
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I have the three
commercial size printers.
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And I can actually have it
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so that it prints all the
different pages for a book,
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not just like one
page of just one kind.
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So once I print a book
block off of the printers,
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usually you'd print
two of them on a sheet
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since it's a a half sheet,
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so that would go
to a paper cutter
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which I have a
large guillotine cutter
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and you would trim it in half.
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And then from there,
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it would go to
the perfect binder.
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And you'd put it in the machine,
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which clamps it,
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puts glue on it,
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and then takes the
cover that you've printed,
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and we'll laminate those covers.
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And those come in, get scored,
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glued together.
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And then you have your book,
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but it's not trimmed.
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So you actually then
need to trim the top,
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the front and the bottom.
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And for that,
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we actually have
a three knife trim
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that has three
blades for cutting books.
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So you run it
through that machine
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and then that will
go into a shrink wrapper
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that will wrap it.
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But if you had like a booklet,
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it would come off the printer,
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and then it
would've to be folded.
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So we have a paper folder
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that can fold it down
into eight-page signature.
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So then you take those
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and you can put
those onto the machine
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that I have for
saddle stitching,
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and it will staple them.
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And then those need
to be trimmed as well
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through the three knife trim.
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With these current printers,
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with kind of rough estimates,
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having two
machines constantly working
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on printing the books,
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we could produce
about 500 books a day.
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And as it's printing,
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you can then actually
start the other processes.
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So from the beginning
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to the end of, say,
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printing like 5,000 books,
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it'll take
probably about three weeks.
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And that's for a
normal like 120-page book.
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But as that's going through,
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you can start another project
coming through behind it.
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- [Natalie] It's so nice
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that he's got all of
the pieces of equipment
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for each stage of the printing.
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- [John] Yeah.
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- And that as one set finishes
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he can start the
next set going behind it.
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So it's not like one has to go
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all the way through the process
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and then the next
one can go all the way
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through the process.
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That helps to
save a lot of time.
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- [John] 500 books a day.
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That's amazing.
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- [Natalie] That's beautiful.
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It's wonderful.
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- [John] Yeah.
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- [Natalie] We're gonna see
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in the next video how God
started preparing his heart
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to do this work. - Okay.
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- The story that
Jesus told of the man
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who went to get
bread at midnight
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from his neighbor
has meant a lot to me
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and has actually been the story
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that I hold as really
the one that is my role
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because I don't have bread.
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And as you think about it,
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I didn't have the money to
buy the equipment to make bread.
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And bread is the word of God.
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So I didn't
have money to buy it.
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I don't even have the
skill to translate it.
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So in some ways,
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to acquire this
bread to give it,
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I have to go ask of my neighbor.
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And as you consider,
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the one who journeyed
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and came to him
came on a long trip.
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And if he had had sufficient
bread all along his journey,
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he wouldn't need
bread at midnight.
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He could wait till breakfast.
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And as we talk
about Christ coming,
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we talk about
it being a morning,
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and that currently,
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the world is engrossed darkness,
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it's midnight.
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And we're looking
forward to that glorious morning
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when Christ comes.
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And breakfast is that
meal that we have with Him.
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But as you think about the
people here in Southeast Asia
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and you think
back in their history,
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they haven't had sufficient,
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they haven't had
all of the resources,
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the literature
that the US has had,
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that Europe has had.
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And so to say,
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"Oh, just wait until later,"
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they're gonna perish
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because I need bread now.
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And in this parable,
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that's the point.
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The point is,
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the bread is
needed at this late hour.
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It's not needed later,
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it's needed at midnight.
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And so he goes and he
asks for three loaves of bread,
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but the friend
doesn't get up right away.
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He says that he's in bed already
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and that he's
not going to get up,
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but the friend keeps asking.
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And in some way,
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that's the point of this story
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for me is that God
wants me to keep asking
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because in this story,
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it says that at his opportunity
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or at the fact that he was
continuing to ask the friend,
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the neighbor gets up.
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But in this case,
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if the friend had no care,
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he would've given
him only three loves.
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But the friend gets up
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and the Bible says that he
gave him all that was needed,
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so it's more than three loves.
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And as you think about that,
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Christ is moved with compassion.
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And He doesn't give
just what's asked for,
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He gives all that's needed.
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And I've also
thought about this,
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the guy's asking for
three loves of bread.
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He doesn't ask,
"Give three loves of bread
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so that we can eat."
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He says, "Give
three loves of bread
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for the one that journeyed."
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When I print a book in Khmer,
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it's not for me.
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I can't read it.
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If I print a book in Thai,
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I still can't read it.
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The bread isn't for me.
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The bread is for
these people here.
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So God finishes this story.
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He doesn't leave it hanging.
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He leaves it satisfied
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that He will
arise and give them.
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And that's His words.
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It's His story.
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And I want to see that
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for the people
here in Southeast Asia.
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- [John] That's beautiful.
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The Bible really comes alive
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when you go into
the mission field
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and you start doing
what Christ was doing
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and reaching the lost.
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- [Natalie] Just you have
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to think about
the tool that that is.
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the opportunity that that
is the blessing that that is.
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- [John] Mm-hmm.
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A lot of times,
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we talk about finishing the work
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and that God
will finish the work
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whether we are
part of it or not.
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And I think about that a lot.
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It's like, okay, well,
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if we don't
engage with His work,
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He will find a way
to finish the work.
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But what about the people today
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that are dying
without the gospel?
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What about them?
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If we don't do our part,
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some of them will
not have the opportunity
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and they'll never
have the opportunity.
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And so that just
gives such an urgency
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to the gospel commission.
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There's not a lot of time left,
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but also there's
not a lot of time left.
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Not, there's not
a lot of time left
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until the second coming.
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But there's not
a lot of time left,
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let's say, for someone
that's gonna die next week
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that has never
heard the name of Jesus,
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not just has heard it
and decided against Him,
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but has just never
had the opportunity
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to hear the name of
much less His story.
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And so that's what gives
us that sense of urgency,
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is we're not doing
this just for a program.
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We're not just trying to
have a good outreach program.
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This is saving lives
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for eternity. - For eternity.
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- [Natalie] And it's more
than we have this equipment now.
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It's what's
gonna be printed there.
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So we have a video about that.
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- [John] Okay.
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- So as I look at the goals
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of providing bread for Asia,
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it goes into
many different areas.
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One that we all think of,
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first of all,
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is like Ellen White's writings.
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What's happening
with her writings?
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Can they read them?
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Do they have them?
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And so in that area,
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several of the countries
have some of the books,
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but even though they
have some of the books,
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the books are not
readily available to them.
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So the goal is to make
sure that some of these books
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that they already
have are readily available
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as well as in
translating more of them.
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But then it goes
into other areas.
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Like for myself,
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I grew up on mission stories.
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I heard about Eric Behr
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and read stories
about different missionaries
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like Hudson Taylor.
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and then, of course,
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the more
children's mission story books
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like that Norma Youngberg did
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of "Nyla and
the White Crocodile"
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and "Taught by a Tiger"
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where it shows
the thinking process
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and the struggle
of those that are here
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and how to accept Christ.
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So it's not just story books.
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It's story books that
inspire them to be missionaries,
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story books that teach them
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about what it is to
give your heart to God,
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story books that show the
importance of the Sabbath.
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That's something that
people here struggle with.
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And so having the
encouragement of stories
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of other people that
have struggled through that
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and how God has worked,
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not necessarily to
make it it all peaceful,
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but has worked
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through the difficulties
will help give them hope
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to hold on.
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One of the other areas
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that is not as readily
available is Bible studies.
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I mean, the US,
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we think of, oh, Bible studies,
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we'll just go to the ABC
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and choose one of
the 10 that are there.
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And that's the one
you're going to go study.
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Here, there may be only one.
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And is there really a copy
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that's actually in
stock that you can have?
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Not really.
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I mean, the states,
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we have Bible
studies focused for children,
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we have Bible
studies focused on prophecy,
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we have bible
studies that are geared
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for group discussions.
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I'd like to see that here, too.
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Schools need curriculum.
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They need workbooks,
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they need textbooks.
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And most of them are
just done in black and white.
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So you get a color science book,
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and they go and
they make a copy of it
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in black and white.
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So having something that is good
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and presents the
subjects in color if needed,
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I think that would be
helpful to the schools here.
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My focus is Southeast Asia,
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so that includes Cambodia,
Thailand, Laos, Vietnam,
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those ones primarily.
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And it's not just
that God provides books
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in those languages,
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but that He actually provides
the freedom for those books
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to go into those countries,
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that He provides the people
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that will help distribute
the books in those countries.
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And so I believe that
as God has led this far
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that He will continue
to lead and open the doors
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for the books to actually
get into the people's hands.
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And then once the book's there,
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God's not done
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because spiritual things
are spiritually discerned,
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which means God needs
to work upon their hearts
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and as they read it,
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that they will
understand it and accept it.
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- [John] And that's where
people in the Western world
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already established
believers can really enter
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into his work,
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into the Rogers'
work is through prayer
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because all those
things that he's trying
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to do is a spiritual thing.
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And prayer is a big
part of opening up the doors
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for the gospel to go forward.
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And he can do the
physical printing,
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and the
distribution is a big challenge.
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There's not a large team
of literature evangelists
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in all the different countries
that he's talking about.
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So there's not a really
well-developed distribution
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network. So we might end
up with 2,000 books sitting
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in a warehouse for five years.
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We don't want that,
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especially when we
can print 500 books a day.
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- [Natalie] Right.
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- [John] So developing
00:17:57.74\00:17:59.27
that distribution network
is a a really vital need.
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And if anybody knows of somebody
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that's really
into that kind of thing
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and can help develop
that kind of network,
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that door is open.
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And what's beautiful
about doing that kind of work
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in area like that
is that right now,
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almost nothing's being done.
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So if somebody comes
in and does something,
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that's something
in place of nothing.
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- [Natalie] Right.
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In the next video
that we're gonna watch,
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Kenton and Rachel both
share some of the challenges
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and some of the blessings
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that they're
experiencing in Cambodia.
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- Thank you.
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(gentle music)
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- The most difficult thing
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that we've had to deal
with is talking with people.
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Even if they speak just
a little bit of English,
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it's still not
enough to convey ideas
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and really to converse
00:19:01.10\00:19:04.44
because our Khmer
is very small, too.
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So it's like putting language
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through a very small straw.
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- I didn't think
culture shock would bother me.
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And for a while,
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I don't think it really did.
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But when things
compound on each other,
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you have the uncertainty.
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You don't know
what's gonna happen next,
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and you're waiting,
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and you're
stuck in an apartment.
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All of these things pile up,
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then little things
start to irritate you.
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And I did feel some
stress at that point.
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For my children coming to Asia,
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I don't think there was
near as much culture shock,
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if you wanna say,
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they just took it in stride.
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But I think I've seen two things
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that have been a
big blessing for them.
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I would say
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the first one is the environment
here is not Christian.
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And although
that brings challenge,
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they also realize that
they're not here to fit in.
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The second part is
interaction with nature
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and people who think
differently than they do,
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that they never would've
gotten back in the States.
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And it makes them realize
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that America
isn't the whole world.
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- There are several areas
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that I've had
spiritual growth in.
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As I think about it,
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the primary one
would be dependence.
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Oftentimes, I
think, "Oh, I can do this
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or I can do that."
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But here, just like
with the language difficulty,
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it's not a guarantee
that I can go to the store
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and even buy something,
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even the other
side of things, too.
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When I do do something
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and then I feel like I did it,
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that feeling of I
did it then swells up
00:20:52.55\00:20:54.92
with a little bit of pride
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and that I did this.
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And then realizing,
"No, I couldn't do it.
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It's not me,
00:21:04.89\00:21:06.36
it's God that's led this far."
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But then I'm also
thankful for the times
00:21:08.46\00:21:11.30
when God asked me to trust Him
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because there's
things I can't do at all,
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I can't even help with.
00:21:17.37\00:21:18.67
And so it's like placing
those things in His hands
00:21:20.04\00:21:22.41
and saying, "Lord, this ones,
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I don't even know
00:21:24.21\00:21:25.88
if there's
anything I can do in this."
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I've seen several
times in this whole process
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with relating to
government, paperwork,
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and business
issues with the government
00:21:37.73\00:21:41.26
that God's worked
in that are beyond
00:21:41.26\00:21:44.73
what I could do anything in.
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Then with also like importing
the printing equipment.
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Also, there's
been things in there
00:21:50.37\00:21:51.71
that I can't
make anything happen,
00:21:51.71\00:21:55.91
but God made them happen
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- For me, I think
the awareness of the,
00:22:00.45\00:22:03.52
I don't know,
00:22:04.85\00:22:06.29
the darkness of this
place compared to America
00:22:06.29\00:22:09.26
and how much Satan
thinks this is his territory.
00:22:09.26\00:22:11.83
So you feel
sometimes way more the battle
00:22:11.83\00:22:16.87
than you would back home.
00:22:17.67\00:22:19.87
I guess, it keeps you focused,
00:22:19.87\00:22:22.60
it keeps you on your knees.
00:22:22.60\00:22:24.11
If you get lazy,
00:22:25.14\00:22:26.01
all of a sudden,
00:22:26.01\00:22:26.84
there's a big problem.
00:22:26.84\00:22:28.41
You have to be
praying for your kids
00:22:28.41\00:22:30.01
and praying for your husband.
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And that's where
the daily growing
00:22:31.25\00:22:35.15
and learning is
for me right now.
00:22:35.15\00:22:37.85
- So there's been some days
00:22:41.89\00:22:42.92
where, of course, I wake up,
00:22:42.92\00:22:44.16
my list of to-dos is long.
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And they seem like,
00:22:47.00\00:22:50.23
if you wanna say
mechanical things,
00:22:50.23\00:22:52.57
like they're tasks that
you just go through and you do.
00:22:52.57\00:22:55.77
And there's some days
00:22:55.77\00:22:57.04
when I just
start working on them
00:22:57.04\00:22:58.01
and by the end of the day,
00:22:58.01\00:22:59.31
you're exhausted
and you're going to bed.
00:22:59.31\00:23:00.78
And I go to bed and lay there
00:23:02.21\00:23:03.91
and realize I think I
missed the most important thing.
00:23:03.91\00:23:08.98
God has said that He wants
00:23:09.92\00:23:11.25
to have us place
the issue before Him.
00:23:11.25\00:23:14.09
He wants us,
00:23:15.16\00:23:17.23
through prayer,
00:23:17.23\00:23:18.46
to actually become
more open for His working.
00:23:18.46\00:23:22.30
Also, He wants us
to give Him praise.
00:23:22.30\00:23:25.93
The same praise that I
gave Him yesterday is fine.
00:23:25.93\00:23:28.70
He wants to hear that even today
00:23:28.70\00:23:30.37
- Coming here with children,
00:23:33.58\00:23:36.85
of course it's more complicated.
00:23:36.85\00:23:38.35
Traveling with
children is more complicated.
00:23:38.35\00:23:40.62
But even if what I
do every day is 80%
00:23:41.88\00:23:46.96
what I did back in the States,
00:23:47.76\00:23:49.12
the same household duties
00:23:49.12\00:23:51.26
and teaching the
kids and everything,
00:23:51.26\00:23:53.63
I believe coming is worth it.
00:23:54.73\00:23:56.63
- Everything that's needed,
00:23:56.63\00:23:57.87
He's promised to give it,
00:23:57.87\00:23:59.67
the wisdom, the financing,
00:23:59.67\00:24:02.37
the people that you're
supposed to connect with.
00:24:02.37\00:24:05.71
He gives all of that,
00:24:05.71\00:24:07.21
and I'm very thankful to that.
00:24:07.21\00:24:09.08
- [John] That's beautiful.
00:24:15.48\00:24:16.45
And it's so neat to see people
00:24:16.45\00:24:17.72
that step out of
their comfort zone,
00:24:17.72\00:24:19.49
step out of the known,
00:24:19.49\00:24:21.09
and enter into God's
work in a foreign land.
00:24:21.09\00:24:24.69
And they start to
see all these insights
00:24:24.69\00:24:27.13
and understandings of the world
00:24:27.13\00:24:28.66
and how God works.
00:24:28.66\00:24:30.10
And I think every church
needs a foreign mission field
00:24:30.10\00:24:33.70
because it helps us to
prioritize what's really
00:24:33.70\00:24:37.57
important. -
[Natalie] Well, they shared
00:24:37.57\00:24:38.77
with us also
their greatest need.
00:24:38.77\00:24:41.24
So let's play that now. - Okay.
00:24:41.24\00:24:42.94
- I see myself as a helper.
00:24:49.22\00:24:51.32
I don't see myself as the
one who's doing this project.
00:24:51.32\00:24:55.59
This is God's project.
00:24:55.59\00:24:57.46
From when we
came here all along,
00:24:57.46\00:25:00.30
He's taking care of us.
00:25:00.30\00:25:02.23
I don't see it as me
having to go raise money
00:25:02.23\00:25:05.73
for these things.
00:25:06.53\00:25:08.30
I see it as this is what
God needs to provide for this.
00:25:08.30\00:25:13.14
And are there times
when I worry about it?
00:25:14.44\00:25:17.08
Yes, there's times
when it becomes a burden.
00:25:17.08\00:25:22.15
But at times,
00:25:22.68\00:25:23.92
I may be worrying
about one bill or one thing
00:25:23.92\00:25:28.29
when I'm not even able to
comprehend all the other things
00:25:28.29\00:25:31.56
that I should be
worrying about, too,
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but God knows about those.
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He's working on providing those.
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And so I need to
trust Him with all of this.
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Money is not the
most important thing.
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There's been
times when I've prayed,
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"Lord, don't give me money.
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That's not what I want.
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I don't want
You to give me money
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without wisdom to go with it,
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without the answers
that I need to go with it."
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Because I've found that
money can go very quickly
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and money doesn't
always solve the issues.
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And sometimes money
can't solve the issue.
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So to have prayers of people
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that God will give
the needed answers,
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the needed wisdom
is the greatest need.
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But then you have other
needs of people to help,
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people to talk to
about even like counsel.
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So my biggest need is prayer.
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Second is people,
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people to help,
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people to connect with, both.
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- [John] I
think that's profound.
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The biggest need is prayer.
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I have seen some ministries
that have a lot of money,
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they don't get anything done.
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And then other
ministries with almost no money,
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but a lot of faith,
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independence on God,
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they get a lot of stuff done.
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It's nice to see
ministries that have both.
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- [Natalie] Yep.
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- [John] They get tons done.
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- [Natalie] Yep.
00:27:03.42\00:27:04.49
- [John] But the key,
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I think the greatest need
obviously is the Holy Spirit
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and the prayers of people
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that lift them up to the Lord
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that has all wisdom
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and can see the
end from the beginning.
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- [Natalie] Right.
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And I just also wanna highlight
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that he asked for people, too.
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- [John] Yes.
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- [Natalie] So praying to
God for people to help him,
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people to do the translation,
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people to do the other
jobs that are needed to be done.
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- [John] Mm-hmm.
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- [Natalie] There is a
need for people, godly people.
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people that God
chooses to be a part of it.
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- [John] Yeah.
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And technical people, I'm sure,
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to run all that equipment.
00:27:38.92\00:27:40.09
- [Natalie] Yeah.
00:27:40.09\00:27:41.32
- [John] So there's
a lot of needs there,
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a lot of opportunities.
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- [Natalie] Right.
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involved in this project,
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please contact us
at Jesus for Asia,
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