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- Hello and welcome
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to Jesus for Asia NOW.
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I'm Natalie Wood
and my husband, John,
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is here with me today.
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We have a story
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that I think many of you
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will find inspirational.
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Hello, love.
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- Hi, darling, how are you?
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- I'm good.
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I'm really looking forward
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to sharing this story
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with our viewers today.
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- Yeah, it's a beautiful story.
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- Where shall we start?
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- It's about a couple
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that have gone to Thailand
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as missionaries.
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- Right.
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- And that doesn't
sound really unusual
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except for the fact
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that they are retirement age.
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- Right.
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And how they got
there is a little unusual.
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- [John] Yes.
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- Because they got there-
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- Because of their children.
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Yeah.
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(Natalie and John laughs)
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- So where should
we start in the story?
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Should we start with their kids?
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- Yeah.
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- So many will remember
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Jonathan and Hannah Hill.
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- Yes.
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- [Natalie] Who do
our videos from Thailand.
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And they have
actually provided us
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the videos
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that we're gonna
be sharing today.
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- [John] Yes.
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- [Natalie] And the couple
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that we're talking about
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are Jonathan's parents.
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- Exactly.
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So Jonathan
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decided to live in
Thailand permanently.
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And he met his wife over there,
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and they got married,
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and they are
foreign correspondence.
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- Right.
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- So Jonathan and Hannah
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got to go and interview
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and video and profile
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Jonathan's parents.
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- Yeah.
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Which is awesome.
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- Yes.
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- We're gonna
start out with a video
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from Faith Camp in 2021.
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- Yes.
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And Jonathan and Hannah
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were in Thailand.
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- Right.
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- And his parents
were at Faith Camp
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there in Idaho.
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- Right.
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- And we invited them to come up
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and share what their plans were,
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how they saw God leading them.
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- Right.
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- And while we
were having a video call
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with Jonathan and Hannah,
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who were in Thailand.
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- Right.
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- So let's watch that video now.
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- Okay.
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- [Jonathan] Hello.
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- Hello.
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So nice to see you.
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- This is the mother
and father of Jonathan.
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Yeah, Jonathan's.
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So what's special
about your parents?
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Are they
supportive of your ministry,
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of you being missionaries?
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(Hannah giggles)
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- Yeah, they are.
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Actually, no, they are a lie.
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(everyone laughs)
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- Actually, it's flipped.
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Usually the parents
influence the children,
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and our children
were so mission driven
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they influenced the parents.
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(everyone laughs)
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- They
influenced you to do what?
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- To go to Thailand.
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- So you're going to Thailand?
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- So we have been to Thailand.
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Actually, the first
call that we received,
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actually the doors
closed for that in 2017,
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we were ready to go then.
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And we wondered
what are we gonna do now,
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we don't have a
call to go to Thailand,
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but our hearts were still there.
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The Lord was
working on our hearts
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and we still had the sense
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that he wanted us to be there.
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So we decided to go.
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And in 2018 I quit my job
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and we got our
house ready to sell.
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We sold our house in January,
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the end of January, 2019.
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And in the midst
of a very tight window
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of snowstorms,
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we left in February of 2019
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and spent 15 months in Thailand.
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Going there, expecting
that when we were there,
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the Lord would open doors for us
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to a specific call.
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So we started to
learn the language
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and went to Bangkok.
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We spent, we raised
our boys in the country
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and the farthest
thing from our minds
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was to live in a big city
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with 12, 13 million people.
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That was quite a
culture shock for us.
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But we learned how to do it
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and it was
surprisingly comfortable
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to live in that
city for that long.
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In February of 2020,
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we got a very specific call
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to go to a school
in western Thailand
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to provide an
agriculture work program
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for the students,
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as well as to
grow food for the kids.
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- Oh, sorry.
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- So this specific
call came in February,
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guess what happened in March?
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Covid happened and
everything shut down
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in Thailand.
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Very tight.
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They didn't want
us leaving our homes,
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except to go buy food
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only one person
from the household.
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- Jim was committed
to 10,000 steps a day
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and we had a room
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that was less
than 400 square feet,
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and he did it.
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(audience laughs)
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- [Jim] It was a little bit like
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being in a prison cell,
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walking back and forth.
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But I did it and
it was a blessing.
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- Amen.
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- So we were
feeling pretty useless
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in Thailand at that point.
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Our son,
Jonathan's older brother,
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Josiah,
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is a pastor in Michigan.
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He was going to
be ordained last year
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so we wanted to
come home for that.
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So we flew home
in May of last year,
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thinking that
Covid, this little thing,
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is gonna blow
over in a couple months
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and we'll be able
to go back to Thailand.
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As well,
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we all know that didn't happen.
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And like we had a
retirement visa that expired
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and the Thailand
Adventist Mission,
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who called us to this school
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in western Thailand,
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was going to provide for us
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a work permit, a visa,
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that would go along with that.
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So while they were
processing those visas,
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until, I think it
was like February,
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and the process of
getting those visas,
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we thought hearing all
the news from Thailand,
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'cause the Covid
numbers over there
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are exploding,
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that the government offices
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would be shut down,
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the process,
the visa, materials,
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and that it would be delayed.
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We got word from the
Thailand Adventist Mission
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the day before we
came to Faith Camp
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that our visa was approved.
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- [Audience] Amen.
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- Amen. Amen.
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(audience laughs)
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- I wanna appeal to you folks,
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'cause my
approach to all of this
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has been one of
great reluctance.
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When we first
started coming to Faith Camp,
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which was the very first one,
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because of the
influence of our oldest son
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who was
determined he was going to go
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and he had his own truck
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and he was gonna
go there by himself.
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Him as well,
"Mommy, we should go."
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(audience laughs)
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And there's only
been one Faith Camp
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that we've missed.
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And coming to Faith Camp,
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we didn't think we
would ever be missionaries.
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We were sure we could
never be missionaries.
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What did I have to offer
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to the mission field?
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All these people
that go over there,
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they're so talented,
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they can do so many things,
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they can build
all kinds of buildings
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and I can't do any of that.
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Over the years of
coming to Faith Camp,
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our hearts began to change.
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And then so,
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well maybe we could,
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but I don't know what we'd do.
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And then we received that call
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and we started
to get ready to go.
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So now we're
about retirement age.
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I'm 64 years old,
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gonna be 65 soon.
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And we're still determined
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to go to the mission field.
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But that spirit of reluctance
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came over me yesterday, too.
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John came to me and said,
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"Jim, would you like to come up
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and share what's
going on for you folks?"
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I said, "No.
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(audience laughs)
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Sir, I don't think
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we really have much to share."
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And he appealed to
me a couple more times,
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and I said, "No,
I don't think so."
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And he was kind
to me and he said,
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"Okay, well I'm
not gonna force you."
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Well then we had
a dear sister come
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to us last evening.
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She got down on her
knees in front of us.
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Not to beg or
plead, but she says,
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"Jim, I have a problem.
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I heard that you were
asked to come up front
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and you said no."
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She said, "There are people here
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who need to hear
your experience."
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And she singled out
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people who are retirement age,
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whether you're
getting ready for retirement
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or you've already retired
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and may be thinking that
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you're too old,
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or you're at a
stage in your life
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where you're not
going to be useful.
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One of the things
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that's
particularly true about Asia
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is they have
great respect for age.
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So you have an
opportunity for influence there
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that you don't have here.
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And even if you're old enough
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or physically challenged enough
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that you can't do
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what you used to be able to do,
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it doesn't matter
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because there are all kinds
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of younger people over there
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who can work.
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We're going to a school
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with over a hundred kids
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and we're supposed to
develop a work program.
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So we don't have
to worry about that.
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- So you don't have to work?
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- No, I will work,
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I will work hard.
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But I don't have
to do it all myself.
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- Yeah.
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- But I won't work,
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and that's because
I have Parkinson's.
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And even though
I have Parkinson's,
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it's very slowly progressing,
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and if I go, Jim can go,
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and Jim can be an influence.
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And regardless of Parkinson's,
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we each have an
influence about us
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that we share.
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And so I can be a
spiritual influence
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and an example,
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even though I may
not be able to function
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like I once did.
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God doesn't need
people to do things,
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he needs willing hearts
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so he can do things.
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- [Audience] Amen.
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- Another reason that we could
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cling to for reluctance
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is something that happened
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about six weeks ago.
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Our son, Daniel,
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was the one who initiated
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coming to Faith Camp one.
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He spent quite a bit of time
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working for Jesus for Asia
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and spent a
couple of tours in Africa
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and also did some touring
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in other parts of Asia.
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He got married
about four years ago
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to a very lovely lady,
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who has been a
godsent for Daniel.
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He had been so lonely
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and now his eyes just shine
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because he has a wife.
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Rebecca was
diagnosed with breast cancer
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that's metastatic
to bones and her lungs
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six weeks ago.
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Daniel has mentioned to us
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how important
it has been for him
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for us to be close by,
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to give him support.
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We don't know
what's gonna happen
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but we know God has a plan.
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Our visas just
came through this week
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and it's like a big
shock to us that it happened.
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And to be honest,
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we're not ready to go
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but we will go when
God opens the doors.
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And we'll trust him
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that he will take
care of these situations.
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- So you can pray for us
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that God would
make a shining light
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on our path,
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that we wouldn't have no doubts
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about when and where to go.
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- I think we're done.
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(everyone laughs)
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- So this was filmed
in the summer of 2021.
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- Right.
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- And now we have
films of the summer of 2022.
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They've gone over there.
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So we're gonna go and join them.
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And actually it
was Jonathan and Hannah
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that went and
filmed this just recently.
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- Okay.
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(gentle music)
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- I was a parent of three boys
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and you're supposed
to raise your children
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and teach them all the things
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they need to know,
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and instead they would
go to the church library
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and check out mission books.
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And they taught
us about missions.
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That led us to Faith Camp,
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which is a whole
missionary-oriented experience.
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In 10 years of Faith Camp,
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we found ourselves
in the mission field.
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- For us,
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it was a long
process of moving us
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from a place where we thought
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we could never go,
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to the mission field.
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What do we have to offer
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to a mission
anywhere in the world?
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To considering the possibility
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that maybe we
could do something.
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Then being asked to go.
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And then thinking,
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"Oh no,
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we have to decide now."
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And we went and visited,
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and decided that,
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"Yes, this is a possibility."
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And at the end of
our lives it's like,
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it would be nice to
be able to do something
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for the Lord's work
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before we're too
old that we can't.
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So the Lord moved
us in that direction,
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step at a time.
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And it took quite a
number of years to do that,
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for us to come to the point
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where we're
actually willing to go
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to a far away
country and leave home.
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And I'm so glad we did.
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(gentle music)
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When this
gentleman, Pastor Lusik,
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found out that I
have a background
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in agriculture,
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and actually the very first call
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for us to come to Thailand
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was to do
agriculture at a school,
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his eyes lit up and he said,
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"Oh, you could do
that at this school!"
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What was
anticipated in asking us
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to come and do agriculture
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was to help the
school financially,
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to provide food for the kitchen
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so they don't have to purchase
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as much of the
food that they feed
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the kids who are here.
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This particular school
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has about a hundred students,
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sometimes more.
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And 50 students that
are boarding students,
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so those eat three meals a day.
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The other thing
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is to establish a work program
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for the kids
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so that they can earn some money
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toward their tuition.
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And we will fund that
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with donations
from folks in America.
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The tuition is very low here
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so kids can make
a significant impact
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on their school bill
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if they had an
opportunity to work.
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And it also teaches
them some life work skills
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that I think are very important
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in the process of education.
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If you read Spirit of Prophecy
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about education,
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having a work program
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is a very important part
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of the education process,
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not just having
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(music drowns speaker out).
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(gentle music)
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- So my goal when we
came to the mission field
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after I knew I had Parkinson's,
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was simply that by
my choosing to be here,
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Jim can be here.
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And my husband can
work in the fields,
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he can help in the school,
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he can have a
significant impact.
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And my job is
simply to stay well,
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to stay well
enough and healthy enough
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that he's able to be here
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and I'm able to be here.
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(gentle music continues)
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Teaching is just my heart.
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I homeschooled our boys
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and I did Saba school for years.
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So I'm helping
with the Saba school
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in our church
here at the school.
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I go to the English classes,
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I was asked to by
the English teacher
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who knows her
grammar and her pronunciation
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but isn't conversant,
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doesn't really have
conversational English.
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So I'll go and just listen
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and every now and then
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she'll say,
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"So when do you use
this word or that one?
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And how do you say this
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and how do you say that word?
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And class, I want you to
listen to her read this."
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And just to improve
the English speaking skills
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of the children.
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And get to know them.
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It's been really special.
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Other than that,
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we learn about
projects that are needed,
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things that are
needed at the school,
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we were able to have a well dug
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that's still being
finalized and processed.
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We're talking about
doing some improvements
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on the school
building and the heat
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so the students
don't suffer so much
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when it's hot.
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The man that called us here,
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we asked him what his
vision was and he said,
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"Just live your life.
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Just be a Christian.
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Just being an influence."
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So that's what we're doing.
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(gentle music)
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- That's the key thing
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that she said
right there at the end.
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- Mm.
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- That when they
were going there,
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they asked the gentleman,
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"What do you want us to do?"
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- [John] Mm. Right.
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- And he said,
"Just live your lives."
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- [John] Yes.
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The reason he says that,
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is that there's not a lot of
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Christian
witnesses in that area.
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- [Natalie] Right.
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- Actually in all of Thailand,
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and much of Asia.
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Very few people
actually know a Christian.
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- [Natalie] Right.
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- And then even if you become,
00:16:01.06\00:16:02.89
let's say for
instance, 7th Day Adventist,
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there's not a lot of culture,
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Christian cultures.
00:16:07.23\00:16:08.00
So they don't really know
00:16:08.00\00:16:08.66
what that really means
00:16:08.66\00:16:10.27
to be a Christian,
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to live a Christian life.
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You know, what do
you do on the Sabbath?
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What do you do
with certain things,
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like your husband, your wife-
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- [Natalie] If
there's a difficult situation.
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- Exactly.
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- Your
relationships with people.
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- How to handle that,
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how to treat others.
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That type of thing.
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- How to to
connect with God, even.
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- [John] Yeah. Absolutely.
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That influence, that example,
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is more important than we think
00:16:31.32\00:16:35.19
and so valuable.
00:16:36.36\00:16:37.63
- Yeah. And that
was really insightful.
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You know, to say
"just come and live."
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- [John] Yes.
00:16:41.90\00:16:43.00
- Because
sometimes we get focused on,
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we'll come and, you know,
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grow this or come and whatever.
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- [John] Do something physical.
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- Yeah.
00:16:48.14\00:16:49.27
But the importance of
living as a Christian,
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you know, is-
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- [John] Way underrated.
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- Yeah.
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- And that's what's
beautiful about Thailand,
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is that a lot of
people retire to that country.
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It's beautiful,
00:17:00.62\00:17:01.45
it's less expensive.
00:17:01.45\00:17:02.92
You can live very
well on a normal income,
00:17:02.92\00:17:05.72
which would be difficult
00:17:05.72\00:17:07.22
to live on here in America.
00:17:07.22\00:17:08.72
And yet, just living there,
00:17:08.72\00:17:10.19
you can go to any
number of cities or towns
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and you'd be the only Christian
00:17:14.36\00:17:15.66
in that entire town.
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You would be a
witness just by living there.
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- So we do have
another part to the video.
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So let's watch that now.
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- [John] Sounds good.
00:17:24.11\00:17:25.61
(gentle music)
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- [Jim] Well, one of the things
00:17:29.54\00:17:30.38
that's really nice about
00:17:30.38\00:17:31.85
this particular
country, Thailand,
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and it's true in
many other places as well,
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it's that there's a
great deal of respect
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for people who are older.
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- And so the things that you say
00:17:40.62\00:17:41.96
have great import'.
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And people sometimes act
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on words that I speak,
00:17:45.43\00:17:47.30
not realizing the
impact I was having.
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And later they say,
00:17:49.46\00:17:50.53
"Oh, thank you so
much for saying this."
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And it's like, "I said that?
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You did what?"
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And it was a good influence,
00:17:57.17\00:17:59.54
but there's a
significant influence
00:17:59.54\00:18:02.11
you have when you're older.
00:18:02.11\00:18:03.88
- And also, people who are older
00:18:03.88\00:18:06.41
have tend to gather
skills along the way,
00:18:06.41\00:18:08.75
people skills,
00:18:08.75\00:18:10.02
other kinds of skills
00:18:10.02\00:18:11.25
that can be used,
00:18:11.25\00:18:12.39
can be very useful to the Lord
00:18:12.39\00:18:14.26
in the mission field.
00:18:14.26\00:18:15.92
(gentle music)
00:18:15.92\00:18:18.59
- Being older,
00:18:20.86\00:18:21.66
it's a little bit harder
00:18:21.66\00:18:22.70
in terms of just functioning
00:18:22.70\00:18:24.80
with day-to-day living.
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My case is special
00:18:27.17\00:18:29.07
because I have Parkinson's.
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But I would have
Parkinson's in the state,
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so it's not like
it would be any easier
00:18:34.51\00:18:36.64
to deal with my
Parkinson's in America
00:18:36.64\00:18:38.91
than it would be here.
00:18:38.91\00:18:40.68
- So the
urgency for us has been,
00:18:40.68\00:18:43.12
let's go so that we
can give to the Lord
00:18:43.12\00:18:48.19
whatever useful
years we have left.
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You know, we
both understood that
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as her Parkinson's progresses,
00:18:54.10\00:18:57.03
I will have more and
more of a caretaker role.
00:18:57.03\00:19:00.90
But while she's
relatively independent
00:19:00.90\00:19:04.41
and can do the nuts
and bolts of life stuff
00:19:04.41\00:19:08.21
behind the scenes
00:19:08.21\00:19:09.38
so that I can work
00:19:09.38\00:19:10.51
at the school,
00:19:10.51\00:19:11.78
we'll do that as long
as she's able to do that.
00:19:11.78\00:19:15.52
When she needs more care,
00:19:15.52\00:19:17.25
then we'll have
to seriously consider
00:19:17.25\00:19:19.45
having extra care here for her
00:19:19.45\00:19:22.96
so that I can continue to work
00:19:22.96\00:19:24.63
or we'll have to
go back to America.
00:19:24.63\00:19:27.20
Well, we'll leave
that in the Lord's hands
00:19:27.20\00:19:28.60
and Jesus may come
before that happens.
00:19:28.60\00:19:30.60
(gentle music)
00:19:31.40\00:19:34.04
- One of the challenges
00:19:37.31\00:19:38.44
when we decided
to come to Thailand,
00:19:38.44\00:19:40.64
other than my Parkinson's,
00:19:40.64\00:19:41.84
was that our daughter-in-law
00:19:41.84\00:19:43.48
was diagnosed with cancer
00:19:43.48\00:19:45.08
and that was a
pretty life changing event
00:19:46.18\00:19:48.55
and pretty traumatic.
00:19:48.55\00:19:49.98
- [Jim] The early stages
00:19:50.79\00:19:51.89
it looked like
it was very serious
00:19:51.89\00:19:53.96
and that she might even die
00:19:53.96\00:19:55.12
within less than a year.
00:19:55.12\00:19:56.76
And I felt really bad
00:19:58.56\00:20:01.26
about leaving the country
00:20:01.26\00:20:04.27
when our son was
going to be facing
00:20:04.27\00:20:06.53
that potential.
00:20:06.53\00:20:07.60
Because every time
that we went to visit him,
00:20:10.11\00:20:12.34
he would tell us how glad he was
00:20:12.34\00:20:14.14
that we came to visit.
00:20:14.14\00:20:15.31
And I know what was
in the back of his mind
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that he was facing a challenge.
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So that was really
hard to tell the Lord,
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"Yes, we will go,
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even though this is the case."
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Since then, thankfully,
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things have gone very
well with her treatment
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and she's not
cancer-free at this point,
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but she has made
significant progress
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in getting rid of the cancer.
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- She was real clear
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that she didn't want
us to stay behind for her.
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And it's a long battle.
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Cancer is kind of
a chronic situation
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that takes a long time
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to deal with it,
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to recover or not.
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And we committed her
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to the Lord's hands
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and he's blessed so far.
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(gentle music)
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- That's just beautiful.
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You know, when
the family can say,
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"We understand the call
that God has on your life."
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- Yeah.
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- [Natalie] You know,
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even though they'd
like them to be there.
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- Yeah.
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- [Natalie] And we
just praise the Lord
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for family that can see
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God calling their family
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and still say, "Go."
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- They get the concept
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of what we're trying to do.
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- Right.
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- When they heard
God's clear voice,
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this was an opportunity
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they had to make that decision
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so was that testing decision.
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But you can see
the joy on their face
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now that they're over there.
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- Like Jim said in
the video basically,
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"We wouldn't do it otherwise.
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We're glad we came."
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- [John] Exactly.
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- And so the joy in service
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is something that
sometimes we don't see
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on the other
side of the obstacles
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or on the other
side of the trial.
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We don't see that
joy that will come
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through serving others.
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- Yeah.
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But you know,
everybody needs a purpose.
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Everybody needs a reason.
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And we need a place of service
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where we feel like
we can be contributing
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to the Lord's work.
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A lot of people
think, well, you know,
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people over a certain age
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are not able to
contribute in the mission field.
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- Yeah. It's not true.
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- It's just not true.
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Maybe in the past
when the mission work
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was really, really torturous
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or really physically demanding,
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but you can go and
live in these countries,
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some of these countries
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more easily than
you can in America.
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- Right.
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- It's less demanding to
live in certain countries
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than it is to live in America.
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The only factor
that's really blocking
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a lot of people
from going, I believe,
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is the unknown.
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We just don't know
what it's gonna be like.
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- Right.
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- And so that's a fear
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that each one of
us has to work through
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to find our meaning.
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But they had to
step out by faith
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and spend time over there
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before they received the call
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to full-time ministry.
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- Right.
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- And so this is the
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putting your feet in the water.
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And this is an amazing time
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that we're living in,
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that you can do that.
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You know, a hundred years ago
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it would take six months
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just to get over there.
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- Yeah. Long boat ride.
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- Yeah.
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And now it's just,
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you can get there in a day.
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- [Natalie] Right.
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- And so,
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the world is much smaller
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and it's much more accessible.
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- Right.
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- And so there's
opportunity for everybody.
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- Now we do have
another part of the video.
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- [John] Okay.
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- So let's go
ahead and watch that now.
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- [John] Okay.
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(gentle music)
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- We lived a year in Bangkok,
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and as horrible as
I thought it would be
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to live 13 million
people as neighbors,
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it was really okay.
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But this time when
we came back in October,
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we've been on the
border by Myanmar,
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and it's much more agricultural
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and rolling hills and beautiful.
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And I grew up on a farm,
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it feels like home.
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(gentle music)
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- When I was in my later years
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of my job
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before I
actually quit, resigned,
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so that I could
get things together
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to sell our house
and come over here,
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I would often tell people that,
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'cause they would ask me,
00:24:06.98\00:24:08.14
"When are you gonna retire?"
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And I'd say, "Well, I'm not,
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I'm not going to retire.
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That's not part of how
I'm gonna live my life."
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You know, all the
things that I've seen
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have sort of
anchored this point that
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people who
retire and don't engage
00:24:19.75\00:24:22.72
in some useful activity
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will wither away and die.
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So I don't want to ever
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sit in a rocking
chair on the porch
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and watch life go by.
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I want to be involved.
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I wanna be doing
something useful.
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And you know,
00:24:37.11\00:24:38.21
when I don't have to
depend on a paycheck,
00:24:38.21\00:24:40.94
then I can depend on the Lord
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to provide
something for me to do
00:24:43.31\00:24:45.21
that'll be useful to him
00:24:45.21\00:24:46.41
and to his
children on this earth.
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(gentle music)
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When you come to a
place that's brand new,
00:24:52.72\00:24:54.36
that's different,
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where the culture is different,
00:24:55.79\00:24:56.93
you have to adapt.
00:24:56.93\00:24:58.33
And that does
create some difficulty
00:24:58.33\00:25:00.93
for older folks.
00:25:00.93\00:25:02.43
But it doesn't need
to be a huge difficulty.
00:25:02.43\00:25:05.60
You just accept
what is different
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and learn to work
with it and move on.
00:25:07.90\00:25:10.84
The other thing
00:25:11.67\00:25:12.47
that's somewhat difficult,
00:25:12.47\00:25:14.14
is adapting to
different climate.
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It's much warmer here
00:25:16.88\00:25:19.18
than where we used to live
00:25:19.18\00:25:20.88
in Washington State.
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And you know,
00:25:22.45\00:25:23.25
one of the things, for me,
00:25:23.25\00:25:25.22
is great benefit about that,
00:25:25.22\00:25:26.72
is that I don't
really have to worry
00:25:26.72\00:25:28.52
about being cold anymore.
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That's really nice.
00:25:30.86\00:25:32.16
(Jim laughs)
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But for some, it's
difficult to adapt,
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and you know,
00:25:37.17\00:25:38.00
if you're thinking,
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if someone is thinking about
00:25:38.80\00:25:40.84
being of service
to the Lord somewhere,
00:25:40.84\00:25:42.77
that's something to think about.
00:25:42.77\00:25:45.17
In addition to seeking
00:25:45.17\00:25:46.47
where is the Lord leading you,
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I don't think the
Lord's gonna lead anyone
00:25:48.58\00:25:50.38
to a place where
they can't adapt,
00:25:50.38\00:25:52.15
because that would
be a failure experience.
00:25:53.28\00:25:55.42
I don't think that's
what God wants for us.
00:25:55.42\00:25:58.65
So if he's
leading you somewhere,
00:25:59.72\00:26:01.16
you're going to be
able to adapt to it.
00:26:01.16\00:26:02.72
So I think that
mindset is important,
00:26:02.72\00:26:04.93
but I think it's also
00:26:04.93\00:26:06.49
a way to discern
00:26:06.49\00:26:07.66
how is God leading you
00:26:07.66\00:26:08.83
if there's particular climates
00:26:08.83\00:26:10.13
that you know absolutely
00:26:10.13\00:26:11.43
that your body can't handle,
00:26:11.43\00:26:13.00
that's not where you
look for God's leading,
00:26:14.17\00:26:16.40
you look somewhere else
00:26:16.40\00:26:17.51
that has a more
conducive climate.
00:26:17.51\00:26:19.61
(gentle music)
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Those folks who are considering,
00:26:23.04\00:26:24.81
in their retirement years,
00:26:24.81\00:26:27.02
coming to the mission field.
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The thing to think about is,
00:26:29.18\00:26:30.92
the Lord wants all of us
00:26:30.92\00:26:33.05
to be active in service for him
00:26:33.05\00:26:35.42
no matter what our age
00:26:35.42\00:26:36.52
or station in life
00:26:36.52\00:26:37.66
or how much
money we earn or don't.
00:26:37.66\00:26:40.40
There's always some place
00:26:41.66\00:26:42.76
where he can use
us in his service.
00:26:42.76\00:26:44.67
And we need to
cooperate with him
00:26:44.67\00:26:47.00
so that he can
show us where is that.
00:26:47.00\00:26:49.67
- Being where
God wants you to be
00:26:49.67\00:26:51.01
is the best thing it is.
00:26:51.01\00:26:52.31
And if that
happens to be in America,
00:26:52.31\00:26:54.61
that's wonderful.
00:26:54.61\00:26:56.41
But if you hear him
calling you to another place,
00:26:56.41\00:26:59.85
go.
00:26:59.85\00:27:01.48
Don't stay behind.
00:27:01.48\00:27:03.12
Don't frustrate his
plans for your life.
00:27:04.25\00:27:06.72
And I'm not even sure
00:27:06.72\00:27:07.72
that I'm here for mission,
00:27:07.72\00:27:10.73
for other people,
00:27:10.73\00:27:12.46
as much as for myself.
00:27:12.46\00:27:14.56
There's a lot of
growth that goes on
00:27:14.56\00:27:16.10
when you're outta
your comfort zone.
00:27:16.10\00:27:18.60
A lot of dependence that goes on
00:27:18.60\00:27:20.24
when you don't have
00:27:20.24\00:27:21.30
a whole swarm of
friends to turn to.
00:27:21.30\00:27:23.41
And God speaks in clearer ways.
00:27:24.41\00:27:27.28
Or maybe I just hear better.
00:27:27.28\00:27:28.91
(gentle music)
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- I would like to invite you
00:27:38.45\00:27:39.62
to pray for Jim and Irene Hill,
00:27:39.62\00:27:41.92
and for the beautiful children
00:27:41.92\00:27:43.36
that they're
serving at that school.
00:27:43.36\00:27:45.13
And if you would like
to be a part of their work,
00:27:45.13\00:27:47.40
please contact us
00:27:47.40\00:27:48.63
at Jesus for Asia, PO Box 1221,
00:27:48.63\00:27:52.33
Collegedale, Tennessee, 37315.
00:27:52.33\00:27:54.40
Call us at (423) 413-7321
00:27:56.00\00:28:00.54
or visit our website
00:28:00.54\00:28:01.94
@jesus4asia.org.
00:28:01.94\00:28:04.31
May God richly bless you
00:28:04.31\00:28:05.91
until we see you next time
00:28:05.91\00:28:07.52
on Jesus for Asia NOW.
00:28:07.52\00:28:09.68
(triumphant music)
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