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- Hello and welcome
to "Jesus for Asia Now".
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I'm Natalie Wood and
I have a special guest
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in the studio with me today.
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Hello, Natalie.
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- Hello, Natalie, how are you?
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(Guest Natalie
laughing) - I'm good.
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I always feel funny
calling you by my name,
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but it's okay
'cause it's your name, too.
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- Absolutely.
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- So Natalie, tell me
about where you're working
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and what you're doing right now,
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because you're not doing what
you used to do when I met you.
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You lived here in
America and you were just doing
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the homeschooling mom thing.
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- [Guest Natalie]
Yes. - Family thing.
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And now God's
called you to do something
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that is a little different.
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- Yes, a lot different.
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Currently, my family and
I, we're serving in Cambodia.
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Specific, we're
in Battambang City.
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And we're starting a school,
a school to meet the needs
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of the Seventh Day
Adventists in Cambodia.
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The main reason, one of the
main reason for the school is
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that almost all the schools
there are six days a week.
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And so you have to choose
between church and school.
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- Because they don't
go to school on Sunday.
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- Because they don't go
to school on Sunday, correct.
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- [Natalie] Okay, so it's a
Sabbath issue for the students.
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- Yes.
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- Does that start
in elementary school?
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- It start elementary
and go all the way up.
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- All the way through. -
You see little babies going
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to school on Sabbath morning,
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going to church, yes.
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- That's hard.
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- It is, it's different.
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You know, I'm not
accustomed to that.
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- Right, so God
calls you to Cambodia.
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I know you've
shared the story before
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at length in one
of our other shows,
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so I'd invite our
viewers to find that show.
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I don't know if you wanna kind
of briefly share a little bit
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on this one, just so
people have a little history
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of how you got to Cambodia?
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- Okay.
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We got called in
2018 at a faith camp.
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We were there and a
call was really strong
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that I need to serve Him.
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You know,
salvation was at stake.
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- Okay.
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- And so we jumped to the call.
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- Right, well
praise the Lord for that
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because you'd already
postponed long enough.
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- Yes, He had
called me four years before
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and I was not ready.
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And so this time He
showed me how critical it was
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to move, that it
was a salvational thing.
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And so you go
where God calls you.
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- Yeah, that's the
only safe place to be.
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- Absolutely, absolutely.
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- Okay, so before we
talk more about the school,
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we wanna talk a little
bit about some fun things
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you've gotten to do lately.
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And one of them happened
around Christmas time, right?
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- Yes, yes, yes, yes.
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- And what was that? What
did you get to do at Christmas?
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- Okay, so we
live, we have to drive
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through this
village to get to the school
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and there's approximately
100 children in the village.
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When we were first
driving through, you know,
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you get the stares
like, who are these people,
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these strangers coming through?
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- And just for a
little background,
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you had to drive through
because there's no buildings.
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There were no buildings
at this time on the property.
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- Correct.
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- [Natalie] No
temporary buildings, nothing--
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- Nothing at all.
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- So you had to
drive through the village
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because you had
to live elsewhere.
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- Right. - Okay.
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- So we would drive
through the village,
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'cause actually at the time,
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I was doing
language study online
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and that's was where
I had the best signal.
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- Oh, on the property.
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- [Guest
Natalie] On the property.
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- Even though
there were no buildings.
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- Even though there were...
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So my husband built
a little shed with tarp
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for me to sit under.
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And that's where I
had school every day.
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And so we had to
drive through the village.
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- Okay.
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- Around Christmas. I'm like,
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I would like to do
something for them.
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And I was
thinking what I could do,
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what we could do for them.
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And at the moment, I was like,
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"Oh, we could
give them blanket,"
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because at the time
it was getting cold,
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and 68 degrees is cold.
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(Guest Natalie chuckling)
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And so-- -
Yeah, considering that
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most normal
temperature's over 90.
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- Exactly, and so
that's a huge drop.
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And so we worked and
we got them blankets,
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and we gave it to them.
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And the older
people were there also.
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And they asked if
they could have blankets.
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And I gave them
blankets, what was left.
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And since then the relationship
has grown astronomically.
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Even the older people
who, it's not norm to say hello
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or wave, this is completely
out the custom, you know?
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They say hello, they smile.
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- Oh nice. - And it's just like,
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it's just an amazing experience.
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- Nice.
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Well we have a few
pictures from this.
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So why don't you tell us what's
happening in these pictures?
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- [Guest Natalie]
This is where we were
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passing out the blankets.
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And that man standing
there in the background,
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he's the village chief.
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So anything that's your
needs you, we need to do,
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we need to go to him for
permission to do a lot of stuff.
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And so it's really important
to have that relationship
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with him and have him
support in whatever we're doing.
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- Right, right.
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Okay.
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- [Guest Natalie] And that's
more children getting blankets.
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They were so happy.
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They were so, so happy.
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- [Natalie] Oh, cuties.
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- I've never done
anything like this before.
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And so I was blessed
and they were blessed.
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- [Natalie]
Wow, praise the Lord.
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- Absolutely.
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- So you shared this
privilege on Facebook I believe?
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- Yes, yes.
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- And someone contacted you
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and wanted to do
a similar project.
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- Correct. - And what was that?
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- So a friend of mine from
New York called me and she said,
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"Hey, would you mind
if we do a slipper drive?"
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And I never thought of that.
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I'm like, "Wow, this
would be an awesome idea
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"and an awesome experience."
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And so she said,
"I'm gonna get the youth
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"from Brooklyn
Staten Island Pathfinder
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"and the
Northeastern Youth Federation,
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"get them together to make
donations to buy slippers."
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And they wanted it
done for Global Youth Day
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and so that's what we did.
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It wasn't as
easy as the blankets.
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(Guest Natalie chuckling)
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- Yeah, 'cause the
blankets are one size fits all.
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- One side fits all.
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And so the first go round
half of the shoes were too big.
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Literally, half
of them were too big.
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And so what we did was
we gave them to the adults,
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which is what you see here.
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It was easier to give
it away, than to return it
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and get new
shoes because we got it
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from so many different stores
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and remembering
where you get what,
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and it was just easier.
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And so we went
out and we bought.
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The adults were really happy
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'cause that was
a bonus for them.
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That's some of the shoes
that we gave to the children.
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- [Natalie] Okay, nice.
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- [Guest Natalie] Yes.
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- That was done before you
came to America, which was--
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- [Guest Natalie]
Yeah, right before.
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- Which was right
before Global Youth Day.
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- Right. - So it was able
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to be completed.
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- Yes. - I
remember the donations
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coming in, people
calling and saying they wanted
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to give for this and
different Pathfinder clubs
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from all over,
especially New York,
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but different Pathfinder clubs.
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It was really neat for the
young people to get involved.
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- I thought it was
really cool, absolutely.
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- [Natalie] Yeah. - Absolutely.
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- So I know she has a burden
to continue doing projects
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like this for
other nearby villages.
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- Absolutely.
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- Let's talk a little
bit about the school now
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and what's going
on with this project.
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There's been some developments
both for the teachers,
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as well as for the property.
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Let's start with the teachers.
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- Here's the
picture of our students.
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And what happened was they were,
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as they were in
college last year,
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the majority of them started
having classes on Sabbath.
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And so they had to
choose between God and school.
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And they were also
learning some things
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that was
contrary to our beliefs.
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And so they were
asking question like,
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"What is the
point of learning this
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"if we're not
gonna be teaching it?"
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- Right, right.
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Things like evolution.
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- Right, and Buddhism.
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And those were
really hard questions.
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- Yeah.
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- We prayed.
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We prayed a lot asking
God for direction, what to do.
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He led us to look
into different colleges
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that they could go to and
we chose Mountain View College
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in the Philippines.
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And we chose that one
because a lot of the people
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that I've met that have attended
there, they have come back
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with a missionary
spirit wanting to serve.
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- Okay.
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- And I feel like it's
important to equip them
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to serve the people of Cambodia.
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It's easier for them
to serve than for me.
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- Yeah, that's true.
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They don't have
the language issues.
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- They don't have the language,
they don't have the culture.
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- Right. - So
it's easier for them
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to go far and do more
than we are able to do.
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- Right and that's
what we really want to do.
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We wanna enable the
locals to help their own people.
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- Absolutely, equipping them.
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In order for them to
go to to the Philippines,
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they have to be
able to speak English.
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- Yeah, and not just like hello.
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- [Guest Natalie]
No, they have to--
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- They have to be able to study.
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- Absolutely, 'cause the
entire program is in English.
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And so we decided to move them.
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They were living in
Siem Reap, three hours away.
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And so it was really
hard to really work with them
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like I wanted to
because of the distance.
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- Right, and paying rent.
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Different places.
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And travel back and
forth for them or for you,
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whichever had to happen.
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- We decided to
move them from Siem Reap
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to Battambang on the property.
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And so we're like,
"How are we gonna do this?"
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And that's when I saw a
missionary had bamboo huts.
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And I was like, "That
would be a really good idea."
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I mean, that's
manageable, you know?
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- Right. - And so I was like,
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"Oh, what if we do bamboo huts?"
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So my husband was
like, "Yeah, let's do that."
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And then we went-- -
It's a way to get started.
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- It's a way to get
started and to move the students
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onto the property.
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And so we started building.
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- Awesome, so let's look
at, we have a little video,
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drone footage of the property.
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So let's go ahead
and we'll watch that now.
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And maybe you can tell us,
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as we're
watching, what we're seeing.
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- Those three buildings to
the right. Those are houses.
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The two side-by-side,
that's where the girls live.
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And the one on the other
side, the boys live there.
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And that big
building that's closest to us,
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that's our gazebo,
and that's where we meet
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for English learning, for
church, and other activities.
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That brick building in the
back, that's the bathrooms.
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- [Natalie] And the
kitchen was behind the kids'--
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- [Guest Natalie] The
kitchen is behind the gazebo
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and there's staff
housing next to the kitchen.
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- It's exciting to see
at least some buildings
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on the property.
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I know it's not
everything that's needed yet,
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but it's a start.
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- Absolutely.
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- And it's really awesome to
see the project moving forward.
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- Yes.
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- And yet we know
that there are needs.
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And so we wanna address those
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so that our viewers can
join us in praying for them.
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What is the cost of
sending these students
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to the Philippines for school?
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- We're looking at an
average of $7,000 per person
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to go to first year.
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And that include their tuition,
flight, visa processing,
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passport, all the things
they need to get them there.
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- And their
tuition and room board.
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- And their tuition, right.
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And the tuition,
room, board, food,
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all of that is
included in that $7,000.
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- Okay.
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- And we're looking at
approximately 13 to 15 students
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that would like to
send, we would like to send.
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- Wow.
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- That much because
we're doing from K through 12.
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- Okay. - And so you're looking
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at 13 teachers there.
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And I figured, you know, it
would be nice to have a nurse
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to not only help the school
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but meet the
needs of the community,
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and as the way of
introducing the health message,
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helping them to
have a better lifestyle.
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And also having somebody
that the last person would be
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administrative,
accounting, that knows how
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to run the business
aspect of the school.
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- I know our original plan was
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that it was
gonna be a high school.
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Can you explain why you
want the younger grades?
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- The main reason
for the younger grades is
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that we have so many
children in the village.
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And there is a
school in the village.
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They have three
teachers for six grades.
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- Six grades, wow.
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- The government made a
decision that the school,
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they have too much staff,
they need to cut back one.
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So they will
only have two teachers
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to teach all those children.
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And so some of them--
- And you told me there's
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about 100
children in the village?
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- Yes, there's about
100 children in the village.
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And so, you know,--
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- I can't imagine having a
classroom with 50 kids in it.
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And that would be two
or three different grades,
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four different grades?
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- [Guest Natalie] Absolutely.
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- Wow. - Absolutely.
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And multi teaching.
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One room classroom.
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You know, in our Adventist
system we do have more than one
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in a classroom,
but it's not big.
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- Right.
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Usually the ratio of
teachers to students is
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a lot more
reasonable than 50 to one.
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- Absolutely,
with multiple grades.
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And so my heart
was, you know like,
00:12:54.17\00:12:56.71
you know we have to help 'em.
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- Yeah. - And I
feel like children
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are more
receptive to the gospel.
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It's easier to teach them.
00:13:03.45\00:13:05.65
And so right before
we left to come here,
00:13:05.65\00:13:08.22
they asked when am I gonna
start teaching them English.
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And so when I go back,
I'm gonna work something out,
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one hour on a
Sunday to teach them.
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And I get to
share Jesus with them.
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I'm so excited to
see how that develops.
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- That's awesome.
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Okay, so that's a
lot of money then.
00:13:25.70\00:13:27.47
- [Guest
Natalie] Yes, it's a lot.
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- 13 To 15 at 7,000 apiece.
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- Yes. - Wow.
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But God is big, right?
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- He is, this is His project.
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You know, we
haven't seen the first dime
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and we're just
moving on faith knowing
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that if He brought us this far,
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He'll bring us
the rest of the way.
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- Right, and He's guided
in looking at which schools
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so that the young
people should go to.
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- [Guest Natalie] Absolutely.
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- So well,
we'll see what He does
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and we're so
excited to see what He does.
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And how He does it.
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- Absolutely.
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- Okay, and on the
property itself needs.
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- Yes. - I know you mentioned
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to me about the
need for a fence.
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Can you explain that to us?
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- The need for fencing is great
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because a couple times
in the middle of the night,
00:14:06.44\00:14:10.15
like two, three o'clock
in the morning, people come
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on the property hunting for
animals, cutting down trees,
00:14:12.75\00:14:17.82
walking around the houses
and it's kind of intimidating,
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and, you know, they're afraid.
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And so I feel like
fencing would provide
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some form of security.
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And in addition
to that, we have cows
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that come on the property a lot.
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People just let
their calls wander
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and they've been
doing it for years.
00:14:35.77\00:14:38.24
And so even though
we're living there,
00:14:38.24\00:14:39.84
they still have
the cows coming there.
00:14:39.84\00:14:41.84
And we wanna do a garden.
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And recently,
they started a garden
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and the cows came
'cause no one was there
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and ate all the corn.
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- That's so sad.
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- It is.
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- Oh, that's so sad.
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What is an estimate for
what the fencing will cost?
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Do you have any idea?
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- We're looking at
approximately 30,000.
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We have 30 acres
that need to be fenced.
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And so it's a lot of land.
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- So it would be
fenced pretty much all the way
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around, within like one entrance
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on either end of the
property or something?
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- Correct.
00:15:10.64\00:15:11.74
- [Natalie]
Okay. - Correct, yes.
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- Well, we'll see
how God answers that one.
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- Absolutely, absolutely.
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- And then there's a need
because of the electricity.
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- We have electricity but
we have like only 20 amps.
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And for those
who know electrical,
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that's not a lot of amp to
meet the needs of everyone.
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- Right.
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- In order to
get good electricity,
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we have to get it
from the main road
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and we're about two
kilometers, I think 1.2 miles,
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something like that from the
main road to get it from there
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to where we need it to be.
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Before COVID hit, when we
priced it, it was like 30,000.
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- You dug a well, right?
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We have water there.
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- Absolutely, and
that's just so exciting.
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- Yeah, it's just
that there's a power issue.
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- There's a power issue there.
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Just one quick story.
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The the well was a
blessing 'cause in 2020
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when we were there,
they told us that the land is
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so dry, you know, there's
nowhere you're gonna have water.
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The ground is so hard.
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To get the water from
the village, it's a long way.
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- It's a long way.
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- It's a long way,
and getting permission
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and, you know, all
that kind of stuff.
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And so one of our workers said,
00:16:16.30\00:16:19.07
"Hey, I know
somebody who digs well
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"and he dug the
neighbor's well."
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I was like,
"Okay, bring him here."
00:16:23.14\00:16:25.21
And so he came and he said,
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"Oh yes, there's a
riverbed running underneath,
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"on this side of the property
that border is the neighbor.
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"I guarantee you
water for two years
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"or I'll return your money."
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- [Natalie] Wow. -
And so I was like, okay.
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So we hit water at 60 feet.
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- 60 Feet?
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- [Guest
Natalie] 60 Feet. - Wow.
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- And he said, "I guarantee that
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"that water will be
running 24-7 and not dry up."
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- Wow. - And so I
was really excited.
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I was so excited, I
was just praising God.
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'Cause you went from
this hopeless situation
00:16:53.64\00:16:56.08
to actually have water.
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Now the thing
with where the water is
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versus where we live is
approximately five acres.
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- Okay.
00:17:02.25\00:17:03.62
- So we have to, you know,
get equipment to trench it,
00:17:03.62\00:17:06.99
buy the pipes, get a
pump, build some form of tank
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to hold the water
and then feed it across
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to everything, to
everyone else, and so yeah.
00:17:16.83\00:17:20.00
- There's some more steps to go.
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- [Guest
Natalie] More steps to go.
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- God has a way to go.
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- He really does, and you
know, I like these opportunities
00:17:24.31\00:17:27.34
'cause you really
get to see God work.
00:17:27.34\00:17:29.51
And it's not like Natalie
did this or Billy did this.
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No, this was God that did this
00:17:32.75\00:17:34.18
because He really
made a way out of no way.
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- It's such a
privilege to see how He works.
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- Absolutely,
and be a part of it.
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- Right.
00:17:42.12\00:17:43.43
There was another
need that you had mentioned
00:17:43.43\00:17:45.93
and that is for the road.
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Can you explain that need?
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- Because of all
the work that we did
00:17:49.43\00:17:52.20
on clearing the land, a lot
of it is dug up and it's clay.
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- Ooh. - And so when it rains,
00:17:58.11\00:17:59.17
the water just
pools and settles.
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And so we actually
need a road infrastructure
00:18:02.51\00:18:05.58
to be able to drive in
and, or even walk around.
00:18:05.58\00:18:10.05
Because recently it
rained and there was just
00:18:10.05\00:18:13.12
so much water just sitting
there in a short amount of time.
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And, you know, you get stuck.
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- [Natalie] Ugh.
00:18:20.13\00:18:21.63
Yeah, okay.
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Do you have any idea
what that would cost?
00:18:23.10\00:18:25.10
- No, we haven't looked
into it, to be totally honest.
00:18:25.10\00:18:27.90
- Okay.
00:18:27.90\00:18:29.04
- But it's
something that's on the radar
00:18:29.04\00:18:31.57
to be looking
into and we just had,
00:18:31.57\00:18:33.84
you know, trying
to get them there,
00:18:33.84\00:18:35.21
teach them English
'cause we're crunched for time.
00:18:35.21\00:18:38.91
And trying to get
them to the Philippines.
00:18:38.91\00:18:41.02
- Yeah, well the
Lord will provide.
00:18:41.02\00:18:42.68
- [Guest
Natalie] He will, He will.
00:18:42.68\00:18:44.32
- Now I know that
there's been spiritual journey
00:18:44.32\00:18:47.39
along this way a lot.
00:18:47.39\00:18:49.72
There have been challenges,
spiritually and emotionally.
00:18:49.72\00:18:52.79
- Yes. - I know
that in the process
00:18:52.79\00:18:54.50
of this, there's something
that the Lord has heavily lain
00:18:54.50\00:18:56.93
upon your heart recently.
00:18:56.93\00:18:58.77
Would you be willing
to share that with us?
00:18:58.77\00:19:00.57
- Absolutely, I would love to.
00:19:00.57\00:19:02.30
The one passage that
God has really brought
00:19:02.30\00:19:04.41
to my heart is Psalms 34:19,
00:19:04.41\00:19:08.08
"Many are the
afflictions of the righteous,
00:19:08.08\00:19:10.61
but the Lord will
deliver him out of them all."
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And when I looked at
that verse, I'm like,
00:19:14.12\00:19:15.78
"Wow, God is promising
that we will have affliction."
00:19:15.78\00:19:20.12
It's a guarantee.
00:19:20.12\00:19:21.56
- Wow.
00:19:22.36\00:19:23.22
- And He's right.
00:19:23.22\00:19:25.33
'Cause once we made that
decision to go to Cambodia,
00:19:25.33\00:19:27.83
everything-- - Everything
00:19:27.83\00:19:29.20
that could wrong did go wrong.
- Absolutely, but then He says
00:19:29.20\00:19:32.10
He will deliver
us out of them all.
00:19:32.10\00:19:34.17
He promises that and
have seen Him delivered
00:19:34.17\00:19:38.54
over and over again.
00:19:38.54\00:19:39.81
- Wow, praise the Lord.
00:19:39.81\00:19:40.88
- And so as I go
through this journey
00:19:40.88\00:19:43.28
of these different things
out, He started opening my eyes
00:19:43.28\00:19:46.31
more to the need
of those around us.
00:19:46.31\00:19:50.45
And you know, living in
Cambodia, there's 16 million
00:19:50.45\00:19:54.89
people. There's 0.01%
Adventist, 0.1% Christian.
00:19:54.89\00:19:59.96
- Wow.
00:20:00.90\00:20:01.66
- And I started thinking about,
00:20:01.66\00:20:03.80
are we being our
brothers' keeper?
00:20:03.80\00:20:06.17
There's souls that are perishing
who's never heard of Jesus.
00:20:06.17\00:20:10.17
We were driving down
the street and there were,
00:20:10.17\00:20:13.44
there was an accident
and there were two men laying
00:20:13.44\00:20:16.08
in the middle of the road.
00:20:16.08\00:20:17.15
And people were just
taking pictures of them.
00:20:17.15\00:20:19.71
And you know, I was
just overwhelmed with grief
00:20:19.71\00:20:22.25
because I'm
looking at them and saying
00:20:22.25\00:20:24.82
they've never heard of Jesus.
00:20:24.82\00:20:28.06
And all those people around
them have never heard either.
00:20:28.06\00:20:32.76
And I can't
even begin to imagine
00:20:32.76\00:20:34.83
how God feels in all of this,
that He has children perishing
00:20:34.83\00:20:39.80
in this world
who's never heard of Him.
00:20:41.04\00:20:44.37
And so many of us
sit here know about Him,
00:20:45.57\00:20:47.78
but we don't share.
00:20:47.78\00:20:49.08
Sister White says
that once we get baptized,
00:20:49.08\00:20:51.78
once we accept Jesus,
we automatically become
00:20:51.78\00:20:56.69
missionaries. Automatic.
00:20:56.69\00:20:58.12
And so yes,
everyone is not called
00:20:58.12\00:21:00.32
to the foreign mission field,
00:21:00.32\00:21:02.76
but everyone is
called to do something.
00:21:02.76\00:21:04.89
That's been the
burden on my heart,
00:21:05.96\00:21:08.16
that we truly aren't
being our brothers' keeper.
00:21:08.16\00:21:12.63
'Cause if we were, we
wouldn't be so comfortable.
00:21:12.63\00:21:15.57
- Wow. - We wouldn't be fighting
00:21:15.57\00:21:16.71
with each other,
arguing who does what, you know,
00:21:16.71\00:21:19.44
who'll bring what for potluck
00:21:19.44\00:21:21.21
or who didn't bring
something for potluck.
00:21:21.21\00:21:22.81
You know what I mean?
00:21:22.81\00:21:23.65
- Yeah.
00:21:23.65\00:21:24.98
- But would be thinking of
those souls that are perishing
00:21:24.98\00:21:27.28
and in need of Jesus.
00:21:27.28\00:21:28.58
- Wow and it's heavy thinking
00:21:28.58\00:21:29.72
about where that
phrase came from in the Bible.
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- Yes, yes.
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- You know, that
was Kane's attitude.
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- [Guest Natalie] Absolutely.
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- It was an Abel's attitude.
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- [Guest
Natalie] It sure wasn't.
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- And it wasn't, oh man.
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- [Guest Natalie] Yeah.
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- And Kane was the one
that knew he was a hunted man.
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- Yes.
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- We need to think
about these things.
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- Yes, 'cause you
know, there's this code
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in First Testimony,
the chapter's entitled
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"Am I My Brother's Keeper?"
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And I would
recommend everyone reading it
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'cause there's one
part in there, she said,
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"If we are not
being or brothers' keeper,
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"we are not
worthy of eternal life,"
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because Jesus
gave up so much for us.
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- And we wanna be like Him.
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You know?
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We say we wanna be like Him.
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- Absolutely.
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- We were with a
pastor the other day,
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he was sharing with
us the simple gospel.
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- [Guest Natalie] Absolutely.
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- Christ in you,
that's the simple--
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- The Hope of Glory, yes.
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- Gospel. - Yes.
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- And it's like if we
don't, if we have Christ in us,
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then we have His attitudes.
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- [Guest Natalie]
Absolutely. - We have His love
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for the lost that
came to to save me.
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- Absolutely.
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- [Natalie] To
save you. - Absolutely.
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- And left
heaven, of all places.
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- Exactly.
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- Heaven's better
than the US, by the way.
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- Absolutely.
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You know, when I went to
Cambodia for the first time
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and you know, you
just feel this oppression
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around you, this hopelessness.
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I got like, a
microscopic glimpse
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into what Christ
must have felt like
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coming to this dark world.
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And it just really blew my mind.
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Like, here I am
complaining in my heart,
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"Oh the smell, the
taste, the this, the that,
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"the heat." - The heat?
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- The heat. But He gave
all that up and I'm like,
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"Lord, forgive
me for complaining."
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You know, forgive me
'cause You gave up so much more
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and You didn't
do anything wrong.
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- What are we willing to give
up for the sake of the lost?
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We were talking
about that the other day.
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You know, if you
pray, are you willing
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to pray for your
enemy until you're willing
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to give your life for theirs?
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- Absolutely.
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- And that's
something that most of us have
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no clue what
kind of love that is.
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What kind of
forgiveness and mercy
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and everything is
involved in sacrifice
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is involved in
that kind of love.
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- Absolutely, and the
other thing I was thinking
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about is oftentimes,
you know, we're like,
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"Well, I'm not qualified.
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"I don't have a
gift, I don't have this."
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But I'm like, "Where do
you find that in the Bible
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"That you need to have a
gift in order to do the work?"
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'Cause when you go to
Matthew 28, He says, "Go."
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- Right.
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- He didn't say, if you're
a teacher, if you're a lawyer,
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if you're a
doctor, if you're a pastor,
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if you're a man,
or if you're a woman.
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He says go.
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- Yeah. - And that's it.
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- And when He sent
out the 70, you know,
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some of them were fishermen,
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one of 'em was a tax collector.
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- Absolutely, absolutely.
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- It's like those
guys had been all sorts
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of different qualifications.
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And He sent them
all out on the same job
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to tell others about Him.
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- Seek and to save
those that are lost.
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You know?
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That's, I mean, that's it.
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We just complicate it.
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- Well, we complicate
it because we're afraid
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or we're unwilling or we're
not really converted maybe.
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- Yes.
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- [Natalie] And
that's a scary thought.
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- It really is.
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- That we're holding onto things
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that come between us and Christ
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and what He wants
to do in our lives.
00:24:45.75\00:24:47.22
- Absolutely.
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And you know, you think of too,
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the other thing
I thought of was,
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what is the value of one soul?
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'Cause God is constantly
asking, "What are you willing
00:24:53.79\00:24:56.76
"to give up so that
one person will be saved?"
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I gave up everything
and I would do it for one.
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That's a tough question.
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It's an easy answer,
but it's a tough question.
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- Right. - But are we ready
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to give the
answer that God wants?
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- Usually the
answer to that is no.
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- [Guest Natalie] Yeah.
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- We have to
fight through it though.
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We have to grab
onto Him by faith.
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- Absolutely.
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- And ask Him to help us.
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I mean, that's the only
place we'll have the strength
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to do something like that.
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- [Guest Natalie]
Absolutely, absolutely.
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- 'Cause when Christ is in us,
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that's the only
place that that kind
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of willingness comes from.
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- Absolutely.
00:25:31.63\00:25:32.99
- Those are powerful thoughts
and it's a powerful choice,
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that you've had to make.
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And I'm sure it's not, you've
made it once and it's done.
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I'm sure it's continually having
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to choose the same choice again.
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And like right now you're in
America and Billy's over there.
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And it's like
you have to go back.
00:25:49.54\00:25:52.28
- Right.
00:25:52.28\00:25:53.08
- But you have choices, still.
00:25:53.08\00:25:55.02
You know, things that have
to be done while you're here
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and while he's there and stuff
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like that have had to be done.
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And some of it's not easy.
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- No.
00:26:02.66\00:26:03.69
- [Natalie] The
affliction continues.
00:26:03.69\00:26:04.63
- Yes.
00:26:04.63\00:26:05.93
- And I know that
recently your oldest daughter
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has chosen to come
back to America for school.
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And I'm sure that
involved some choices.
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- Yeah, tough choices.
00:26:13.87\00:26:15.50
Tough choices.
00:26:16.81\00:26:18.01
- Yeah, you were sharing with me
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when you were at the airport
and it was just so hard to.
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- It was so hard.
00:26:22.94\00:26:24.28
- It also, I think, the
separation from our children
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teaches us a little bit
about what God went through
00:26:27.58\00:26:29.75
when Christ came down here.
00:26:29.75\00:26:31.32
- And you know, it's
with this same nurture
00:26:31.32\00:26:35.06
and loving
spirit that God wants us
00:26:35.06\00:26:37.63
to take to the mission field
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because over there,
they've become my children.
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Literally.
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I don't get tired of
the hellos when I drive
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through the village, you know?
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I mean, sometimes
we go in six times
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and drive out six
times, and each time,
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- [Natalie] Hello, hello.
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- Hello, hello.
00:26:54.78\00:26:55.91
- Well, I just wanna thank you
00:26:55.91\00:26:56.98
for sharing your
heart with us today.
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- Thank you.
00:26:58.65\00:26:59.71
- I know some of
the, some of the points
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that you've shared are a little
more touching than others,
00:27:02.55\00:27:04.75
but I just really appreciate
you sharing about the project
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and what's going on
spiritually, as well,
00:27:10.09\00:27:12.66
the challenges
and the afflictions.
00:27:12.66\00:27:15.36
- Yes. - Some of
the little glimpses
00:27:15.36\00:27:17.07
into the sum of the afflictions.
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It's a blessing to
know what to pray for.
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And so I just really appreciate
you sharing with us today.
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- Thank you so much.
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- And I would like
to invite you to pray
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for the project in Cambodia,
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for the little villages nearby,
00:27:30.38\00:27:32.48
and for the opportunities
that the Lord is opening
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to be a witness
in those villages.
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Please also pray for the
needs that have been shared here
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because they're
real and God has a plan.
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And if you would
like more information,
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you can contact us at
Jesus for Asia, PO Box 1221,
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Collegedale, Tennessee, 37315.
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Call us at (423) 413-7321
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or visit our
website at Jesus4Asia.org.
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May God richly bless you
until we see you next time
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on "Jesus for Asia Now".
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