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- Hello, and welcome
to Jesus for Asia Now.
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I'm Natalie Wood
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and I have a special guest
with me in the studio today.
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Hello, Sharon.
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- Hello, how are you?
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- Now this is
Sharon Williams. - Yes.
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- And you are our
office manager here
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- Yes.
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- But that's not why
you're on the show today.
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- No, cause that
would not be very exciting.
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- That's very true.
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But we are
talking about a country
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that's become
very dear to you today
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- Yes. - Yes it has.
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- [Natalie] And
what country is that?
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- That's Bangladesh.
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- [Natalie] Okay.
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Bangladesh.
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And why is
Bangladesh dear to your heart?
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- Because I went there and
met people and made friends
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and got to see the need
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and the people who
are doing some of the work
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and wanna get involved with it.
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- Okay.
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So how did you end
up going to Bangladesh?
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- It is a circuitous story.
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Um, we have a, a, a
colleague, Tim Saxton,
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who is the new
director, Asia director for AWR.
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And he went to
Bangladesh check out,
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as part of his territory,
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he was going to all the
different countries under his,
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under his purview,
and he saw a lot of need
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that didn't necessarily fit
under AWR's marching orders.
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So he thought of Jesus for Asia,
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and said his would
be perfect for them.
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So he met with John and said,
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"Hey, would you
like to get involved?"
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And John said yes.
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And he said,
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"Great, come to Bangladesh
in December when I go back
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and I'll show you around
and introduce you to people."
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But due to John's schedule,
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the travel schedule of
needing to be in Thailand
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and in various
places, he could not go.
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So instead of
letting the opportunity pass,
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I volunteered and volunteered
Hannah at the same time
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saying that we would go
in his place and he agreed.
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And that's how we got there.
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- So tell us a
little bit about Bangladesh.
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- Bangladesh is a small country.
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It is in the northeast of India
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and it is surrounded by India.
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And it also has a
border with Myanmar.
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It is a newish country, it
gained its independence in 1971
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and they are very
happy to be Bangladeshi.
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They're very
proud of their country,
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so it's more of
a hopeful country.
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It is mostly Muslim, 89%
Muslim with about 10% Hindu.
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And then the last
1% is lumped together
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as Christian and Buddhist.
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So very few
Christians in this country.
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- Okay.
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- The Adventist church there
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divided Bangladesh
into four missions.
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There's the north,
south, east and west.
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And Hannah and I went to all
four quadrants of the country.
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So we spent a lot of
time in vans and we flew a lot
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going back and forth.
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It's about an hour out of Dhaka
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to everywhere in
the country. - Okay.
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- So it's not large,
it's about the size of Iowa,
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but it has 167
million people in it.
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And Dhaka is the sixth
most densely populated city
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in the world. - Wow.
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- And we have a
video here of Hannah
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standing on a street corner,
just watching the traffic go by
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so that you can see
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just how close the
traffic comes to the people.
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- Okay.
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And they all kind
of, you've been in India,
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you know what that is like,
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and they drive
the same way there.
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- Okay.
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(cars hooting)
(bicycle bells ringing)
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(indistinct chattering)
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(cars hooting)
(indistinct chattering)
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- So while we
were in Bangladesh,
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we mostly stayed
at the union mission,
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the Bangladesh
union mission office.
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- Okay.
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- And we went up to
the top of the building
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where we were
staying and took a video,
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a panoramic video of the city
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which is showing at the moment.
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And you can, all
you can see is city,
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as far as you go
is just city. - Wow.
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- It's very, very
huge, they build up.
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- Yeah, lots of tall buildings.
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- Yeah.
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They don't have the
ability to, to go out
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and they were doing
laundry on top of a building.
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That's what they do is, you'll
see, they don't have dryers,
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so they just hang their
laundry everywhere that,
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that they can go.
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- Yeah. - Yeah.
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- So I wanted
to give a shout out
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to the Bangladesh
union mission leadership
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because they took very good
care of us while we were there
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and they brought us food
and gave us a place to stay.
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And then Dr.
Litten Holder was our,
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the person that we connected
with and he took us everywhere
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and he was so kind
and so nice to help us
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that we would not have
been able to accomplish
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what we needed to do
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if it wasn't for the
leadership there who,
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who stepped in and
made sure we were okay.
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So I just wanna
say, hey. - Yeah.
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You connected it really well
with all the different missions
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- Yes.
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- Under the
union mission as well.
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- Yes, yes.
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- And so we just
really appreciate
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the church leadership there.
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- Yes.
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- And, and they seem to,
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we've met a few of them
on zoom calls since then.
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And they all have expressed
a desire for more people
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in their areas
to know God. - Yes.
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- And that's just so beautiful.
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- Yeah.
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The, the difficulty in,
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in doing
evangelism in the country
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is that it's a
Muslim majority country.
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And the
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evangelism is not allowed.
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So if you want to have meetings
in a building that you have,
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that's great,
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But you're not going to go
into a village, pop up a tent,
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do meetings and bring people in.
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They, they will not allow that.
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- And so, it's challenging
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The, the leaders in
Bangladesh have a challenge
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to be able to spread the
gospel and do it in a way
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that will allow
them to continue to do it
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without having the government
come in and shut them down.
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And so it's,
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they pray a lot and
they do what they can
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as best as they can
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and we're thankful to be
able to come alongside them
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and give them support.
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- Right. - [Sharon] Yeah.
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- Wow, that's a
challenge. - Yeah.
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- And speaking of Muslims, - Yes
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- we have a picture here. - Yes.
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You will see a lot of the women
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who, who are
wearing the full outfit.
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And they are not as
prominent as the men.
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When you're traveling around,
you'll see men everywhere,
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but not the women.
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They are tend to
be in the background
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and reaching the women is
probably the hardest thing to do
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because you
actually have to find them
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and share the gospel with them.
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- Right.
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They're at home
- They're at home
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- Behind the scenes. - Right.
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Exactly.
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The men are the ones
who normally do the shopping
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and the women are
home with the children.
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And it's, they're a population
that's even harder to reach,
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than the men simply
because they're not visible.
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So we have to go
and look for them.
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- Hmm. - [Sharon] Yeah.
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- That's a challenge too.
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- [Sharon] It is. - Yeah.
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- It's very much a challenge.
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However, one thing that the
government wants are schools.
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They care about their children
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and they want their
children to raise up in life.
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And we learned that, even
though the statistics say that
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the country is
about 70% literate,
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that means that 70% of the
population can write their name.
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- Hmm.
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- And that's
their level of literacy.
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And so the schools are
helping the children grow
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and surpass their parents
and, so that they can get jobs
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and grow the economy.
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And so schools are welcome
even if open evangelism is not.
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- Mm-hmm.
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- So that's
something that we can do.
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- Okay.
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So speaking of
schools, we're gonna start out,
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we've got a couple different
ones we're gonna talk of
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several different ones
we're gonna talk about.
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- And so the first one.
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- Okay.
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The first one is in
the Cox's Bazar area.
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We were able to go to
one of the Rohingya camps.
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- Okay.
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- And that requires special
permission in order to go in.
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So the group we were
with did all the application
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and got the
approval so that we could go.
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And what you're seeing
is a picture of the camp
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that we were in.
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And you'll notice that it's
not high-rises, it's not luxury.
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- [Natalie] It's not building.
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- [Sharon] It's
not, it's shacks.
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- [Natalie] Yeah. -
[Sharon] It's shacks.
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- [Natalie]
They're made from bamboo
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- [Sharon] Yes, yes.
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- [Natalie]
Looks like an, tin and
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- [Sharon] Right,
yes. - [Natalie] Grass.
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- [Sharon] Yes.
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And the folks who are
in the camp are not allowed
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to leave the
camp. - [Natalie] Mm.
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- Nor are they
allowed to go back to Myanmar.
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- Mm. - So
they're in this place,
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and it's, it's a
sad thing to know that
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when you wake up in the morning,
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that's where
you're going to be all day
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and then tomorrow all day
and then the next day, all day.
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- Mm.
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- And while we were,
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before we got to
the, the Rohingya camp,
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we were able to meet with
one of the local chairman.
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They, they divide their
local governments up into
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chairman of an area.
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Something like we
might consider a mayor or
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a city councilman -
[Natalie] A district.
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- Yeah, district
leaders. - Governor.
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- something like that. Yes.
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And he was over
a large portion of
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one of the Rohingya
camps, about 800,000 Rohingya.
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- [Natalie] Mm.
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- And then around
30,000 of the Bangladeshi
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that live
outside the camp. - Mm.
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- And when we met with him,
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he asked us if we would
bring a school into his area.
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- Hmm.
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- He was very
concerned about the Bangladeshi
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outside the camp walls.
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Because, well, if you
think about a neighborhood
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and then a group
of refugees come in
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and your neighborhood
land has, is divided
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and the refugees get the land.
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And then
non-governmental organizations
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from around the globe, come
in and work with these people
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because they're refugees.
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People tend to forget that
there were Bangladeshi living
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every day in that neighborhood,
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before the camp even started.
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- Mm-hmm.
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- And so the chairman asked us
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if we would come and
build a school for his people
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who he felt
were forgotten. - Mm.
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- And we said to him,
we'd be happy to do that
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but we're Christians.
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And he said, "I know."
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And we're like, "It
will be a Christian school."
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He said, "I
know, and that's fine.
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I just want
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our children to have
the benefit of an education"
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- Wow.
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- And we said, "What
size school do you want?"
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He said, "Anywhere from
elementary through college,
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come, bring a school."
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- Wow.
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- And then -
What an opportunity.
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- [Sharon] I know.
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And then,
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and then we had the idea
for a community radio station
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that could be
connected with the school
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that could broadcast
programming over the camp walls.
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We can't go into the camp,
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but maybe they could hear
about Jesus in another way.
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- So it's a very
exciting prospect
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and we've been invited to come.
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So we are working
with the local mission
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to see if that's
possible to be able to do.
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- Right. - Sounds good.
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- Okay. - That's one.
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- One opportunity.
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Okay. Let's talk
about the next one.
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- Number two.
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Number two is in a Hindu village
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that's north of Cox's Bazar.
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And we were introduced to
this village by a local man
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who has a heart for
mission and sharing the gospel,
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and we'll call him Samson.
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- Okay.
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- And he
connected with AWR and said,
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"Would you please come and
help me establish a mission
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in this village."
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He was all by himself
and he couldn't do it alone.
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So while we were there,
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we had the opportunity to
go visit this Hindu village.
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- Mm.
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- And we walked into,
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it was a rabbit
warren of little lanes,
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and we were able to
talk to the village elders.
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So we were in the
center of the village.
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All the children
came out, - [Natalie] Oh.
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- [Sharon] all the women
came out, everybody came out
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and we had a conversation
with the village elders
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and the question was asked,
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"What is your
greatest need here?"
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- And their greatest need was
the school for their children.
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Not money, not food,
but school for the children.
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- Hmm.
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- They said, "We have a space,
please bring in teachers."
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- And so the picture that's
on the screen right now is the,
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the conversation
with the village elders,
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where they're explaining
how they want the school
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for their children. - Okay.
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Now again, it's a Hindu village?
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- [Sharon] It's a
Hindu village, yes.
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- And we're not Hindu?
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- [Sharon] We're not Hindu.
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And we told them that.
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- [Natalie] So,
what was their response?
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- Their response was,
"We know you're Christian,
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we know it will be a
Christian school, please come."
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- Wow. - [Sharon] So,
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- And they just want
education for their children?
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- [Sharon] They just want
education for their children.
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- [Natalie] Yeah. - And
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- [Natalie] That
makes such a difference.
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- [Sharon] No, it does that.
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And there are a lot of
children in this village.
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And it will be an
exciting prospect.
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We have connected
with the local mission
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who's already identified
find a family to go in
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and we haven't gotten the
details, we just have been told.
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We know, and that's, that's it.
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So this one, it
hopefully will be started soon
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and we can start small.
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And then just, - Yeah.
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One or two grades
maybe, and just keep growing.
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- [Sharon] Yep.
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But they were very happy,
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they were so honored
that foreigners came to their
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village. So many of them had
never seen a foreigner before.
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- Did any babies
cry? (Sharon chuckles)
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You know, that's happened
to us sometimes in India,
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that babies start crying
when they see the white person.
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- But you know,
we have a number,
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Hannah and I have
a number of photos
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where the baby's
eyes are like this brown
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- saucers - saucers.
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- cause they're
like, I don't know you
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but they didn't cry.
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- That's good. - [Sharon] Yeah.
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They didn't run, they were
excited that people were there
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and they were honored
that we had honored them
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by coming to their village.
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And Samson had
been doing work there.
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Visiting, getting
to know the elders,
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establishing the relationship.
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So he was able to
introduce us as his friends
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and as friends of the village.
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And they welcomed
us with open arms.
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So that's - That's really nice.
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- Opportunity two,
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- Okay. (Sharon laughs)
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- Now we have a third
opportunity for a school
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- Okay. - of a different kind.
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- Okay.
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- In the south of Dhaka,
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there is a town called Rangpuri.
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- Okay.
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- And in this town, is a
very large brothel village.
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- Hmm.
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- And there are
around 1300 women
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who work in that village,
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along with their children.
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They have kids and then the
kids just kind of hang around,
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there's not a lot that
people want to do for the kids.
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Not a lot that people
wanna do for the women,
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they're in a, in
a, an occupation.
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- [Natalie] Yeah. - You know.
00:15:57.72\00:15:58.95
- Distasteful
occupation. - [Sharon] Yeah.
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And, and people, and, and the
majority of, of polite society
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would like to ignore
the fact that they're there.
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- Right. - [Sharon] However
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- And it's a never ending cycle.
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- [Sharon] It is.
00:16:09.16\00:16:10.27
- You know, the
girls who grow up in there
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- usually end
trapped - [ Sharon] Yes.
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- in the same
lifestyle. - [Sharon] Right.
00:16:12.83\00:16:14.07
And the boys - [ Natalie] Yeah.
00:16:14.07\00:16:15.40
- see how the women are treated
and that's what they learn.
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And so the cycle keeps
repeating and repeating.
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- [Natalie]
That's really sad. - Yes.
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So we were introduced to
a man that we'll call Paul,
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who has a lot of
experience in working with NGOs
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and doing development projects.
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And he in his work
had gotten to know the,
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the Muslim relief
agency that is prevalent
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in the Rangpuri area
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and is the one who
coordinates all the relief work
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in that area. - Okay.
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- And so he introduced us to
the chairman of, of that group
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and we had a lovely time
together, and he said to us,
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"We have this space that
has industrial sewing machines
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that no one is using."
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- Hmm.
00:17:07.29\00:17:08.39
- And if you
want to take this on,
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we will let you into this space
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and you can run a sewing school
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- [Natalie] Interesting.
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- for the ladies in
the brothel village,
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as a way for them
to learn something
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to be able to put
food on the table,
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learn a different skill.
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And you'll,
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you know that Bangladesh
is one of the world's leading
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exporters of clothing. - Hmm
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- If you go to stores
and you check the label,
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a lot of them will
say made in Bangladesh.
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- Mm-hmm.
00:17:38.45\00:17:39.55
- So, anyone who
goes through this school
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should be able
to get a job with,
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- [Natalie] In
the garment industry.
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- [Sharon] In the
garment industry, yes
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- Okay. Interesting.
00:17:47.23\00:17:48.86
- [Sharon] Yeah.
00:17:48.86\00:17:49.66
So in India we have our schools
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- [Natalie] Mm-hmm.
00:17:52.13\00:17:53.37
and those are treadle
machines - [Natalie] Mm-hmm.
00:17:53.37\00:17:55.44
- so that the
women can set up a shop.
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- [Natalie] Right.
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- These are
industrial sewing machines.
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So we have a short
video here that Hannah took
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and it just
pans through the room
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to show the kind of
machines that they have.
00:18:08.42\00:18:11.95
- [Natalie] Okay.
00:18:11.95\00:18:13.22
- [Sharon] And these
machines require electricity
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and it requires
constant electricity
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because if the
electricity goes out,
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then the class kind of stops.
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- [Natalie] Right.
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- [Sharon] And so
there's 10 in this room
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and we could do two cohorts,
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one in the morning,
one in the afternoon
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and train around 20
women - [Natalie] Mm-hmm.
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- [Sharon] during the
course of a, of a study.
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- [Natalie] Okay. Interesting.
00:18:37.01\00:18:39.55
- Yeah.
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And the photo that's up
now is interesting because
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they don't sew with patterns
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the way that we do
here in the United States
00:18:45.55\00:18:47.72
- [Natalie] No.
00:18:47.72\00:18:48.86
- [Sharon] They put
the pattern up on the wall.
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- That's the first time I've
ever seen a pattern actually
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in all of my
times going to India.
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I haven't ever seen
them put 'em up on the wall.
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- Must be because it's a school.
00:18:55.80\00:18:57.30
- Right. And, and
00:18:57.30\00:18:58.10
- Because they don't, the,
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this blouse was
sewn without, without
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- I know - a pattern.
00:19:02.20\00:19:03.30
- Yeah. -
[Natalie] It's amazing.
00:19:03.30\00:19:04.41
- [Sharon] It's
amazing that they
00:19:04.41\00:19:05.57
- They take your
measurements - [Sharon] Yeah.
00:19:05.57\00:19:06.68
- and then they
can stitch it without
00:19:06.68\00:19:09.44
- [Sharon] Right? - Yeah.
00:19:09.44\00:19:10.35
- Exactly.
00:19:10.35\00:19:11.38
But this is only
one pattern. - Right.
00:19:11.38\00:19:14.25
- The room has patterns all
around and that's what they use
00:19:14.25\00:19:18.35
to make the
clothing, clothing with.
00:19:18.35\00:19:20.66
So we are exploring options
with Paul to get a budget
00:19:20.66\00:19:25.43
and to, to figure out
how we can move forward.
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But we were requested again,
to come in to teach the ladies.
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And while we won't be able
to overtly share the gospel,
00:19:32.60\00:19:37.31
we know from our time in
India, with the sewing schools,
00:19:37.31\00:19:40.68
that there are ways that the
teacher can share about Jesus
00:19:40.68\00:19:45.75
during the classes.
00:19:46.41\00:19:48.32
So, - Right.
00:19:48.32\00:19:49.42
Well, in, in India,
in our sewing school,
00:19:49.42\00:19:52.89
at first, the
first one, the, the lady,
00:19:52.89\00:19:56.32
the teacher was
not an Adventist,
00:19:56.32\00:19:58.53
she was a Hindu herself.
00:19:58.53\00:19:59.73
- Oh yeah. That's funny.
00:19:59.73\00:20:00.53
- And she was witnessed too,
00:20:00.53\00:20:01.63
by the people
she was working with.
00:20:01.63\00:20:04.27
- The Christians
that she was working with
00:20:04.27\00:20:06.30
to run the school. - Right.
00:20:06.30\00:20:07.70
- And so that was, that was
really a powerful testimony.
00:20:07.70\00:20:10.97
I mean, her daughter,
her daughter, wasn't getting
00:20:10.97\00:20:14.24
pregnant and she asked the
Christians to pray and they did,
00:20:14.24\00:20:17.25
and her daughter, daughter
got pregnant and she's like,
00:20:17.25\00:20:19.68
- That's so cool. -
This is because of your God.
00:20:19.68\00:20:21.95
- Right. - You know?
00:20:21.95\00:20:23.18
And so it's a neat
testimony - [Sharon] Right.
00:20:23.18\00:20:24.75
- No matter, you
know, what the circumstance,
00:20:24.75\00:20:27.26
it can be a neat
testimony. - It can be
00:20:27.26\00:20:28.82
- To each person
involved. - It can be.
00:20:28.82\00:20:30.83
And, and it,
00:20:30.83\00:20:32.79
my heart breaks for the
women who are in this situation,
00:20:32.79\00:20:36.77
who are trapped.
00:20:36.77\00:20:38.77
Many of them are trafficked
there when they're young
00:20:38.77\00:20:42.77
and that's where they grow up.
00:20:42.77\00:20:44.57
And they aren't
going to get married,
00:20:44.57\00:20:47.31
they are not going to
be allowed to get a job
00:20:47.31\00:20:51.11
without additional training
00:20:51.11\00:20:52.75
and they don't
know how to do that.
00:20:52.75\00:20:54.48
- Right.
00:20:54.48\00:20:55.95
- So this will be able to
hopefully connect women to Jesus
00:20:55.95\00:20:59.22
most importantly,
00:20:59.22\00:21:00.49
but also give them a
skill so they can leave
00:21:00.49\00:21:02.82
and not have to participate
in the activities of the village
00:21:02.82\00:21:06.86
in order to put
food on the table.
00:21:06.86\00:21:08.36
- Right.
00:21:08.36\00:21:09.16
Yeah, that's such a blessing.
00:21:09.16\00:21:10.60
You know, that
was the case in India.
00:21:10.60\00:21:12.10
Our, our school was
particularly for widows.
00:21:12.10\00:21:14.74
- [Sharon] Yes.
00:21:14.74\00:21:16.10
- That were also trapped
into that same lifestyle.
00:21:16.10\00:21:17.24
- [Sharon] Yes, yes.
00:21:17.24\00:21:18.54
- Because they had no
other way to make a living.
00:21:18.54\00:21:20.31
And it was such a
blessing for them.
00:21:20.31\00:21:22.78
[Sharon] Right.
00:21:22.78\00:21:23.91
- To have skills
that they could, you know,
00:21:23.91\00:21:25.31
set up their own shop or get
a job working for someone else.
00:21:25.31\00:21:28.68
- [Sharon] Right.
00:21:28.68\00:21:29.78
- It just, it can
be such a blessing.
00:21:29.78\00:21:31.29
- Right. Yeah. It can be.
00:21:31.29\00:21:33.32
And it gives them hope.
00:21:33.32\00:21:34.62
And when they have hope,
then their children have hope
00:21:34.62\00:21:36.89
and - [Natalie] Right.
00:21:36.89\00:21:37.69
- And it starts a cycle of hope
00:21:37.69\00:21:39.16
as opposed to a
cycle of darkness and
00:21:39.16\00:21:41.80
- Which is what they have now.
00:21:41.80\00:21:43.00
- Yeah. - Yeah.
00:21:43.00\00:21:44.50
So we're, I I'm really
excited about this because
00:21:44.50\00:21:46.80
I really enjoy the
sewing schools in India.
00:21:46.80\00:21:48.90
- Mm-hmm.
00:21:48.90\00:21:50.41
- And this was really a
blessing that they offered,
00:21:50.41\00:21:54.54
please come. - [Natalie] Yeah.
00:21:54.54\00:21:55.91
And they have the
machines, - [Sharon] Yes.
00:21:55.91\00:21:57.15
- which is
amazing. - [Sharon] Yes.
00:21:57.15\00:21:58.68
- I think we have to get
'em serviced or something.
00:21:58.68\00:22:00.05
- Cause they've
been sitting for a while.
00:22:00.05\00:22:01.32
- They have. Yeah.
00:22:01.32\00:22:02.22
- Yeah. - [Sharon] They have.
00:22:02.22\00:22:03.22
- But anyway,
00:22:03.22\00:22:04.25
so there's some
costs associated with
00:22:04.25\00:22:05.59
getting that set up and running
00:22:05.59\00:22:07.02
- Right.
00:22:07.02\00:22:08.12
- [Natalie]
before even can start.
00:22:08.12\00:22:09.56
- Right - Having classes, but
00:22:09.56\00:22:10.43
- [Sharon] Absolutely. Right.
00:22:10.43\00:22:11.73
Yeah, it's such a blessing
though that they have, you know,
00:22:11.73\00:22:13.03
have a place and they have
machines that just need service.
00:22:13.03\00:22:16.80
- And so we're
praying for teachers
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that God would
like to place there
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so that they, the
women, or the teacher
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can be connected with the women.
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I was assuming it
was a woman teacher,
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but it doesn't have to
be - [Natalie] That's true.
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- because it's,
Bangladesh has the industry
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and so both men and women,
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so it's not a
gender specific activity
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- Yeah.
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- in Bangladesh.
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And, so the
schools are one of the ways
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that we can spread the gospel.
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And in a companion show to this,
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Hannah's going to be
talking about Bible workers
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and medical missionary workers.
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So we're trying to cover as
many areas in Bangladesh as we,
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- [Natalie] Right. - As we,
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- I know you were
there for five weeks.
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- [Sharon] Five weeks.
- And so you saw a lot.
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- [Sharon] We
did. (Sharon laughs)
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We saw a lot and we
could go on and on, but
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- [Natalie] Right.
00:23:05.45\00:23:06.51
- We don't have
time in this episode,
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but Hannah will pick
up some of that and share
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some of what we
saw in her episode.
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- Okay.
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So, having been to Bangladesh
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and you've been to India
since you came to work here.
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- Yes.
00:23:18.93\00:23:19.73
- And, I'm just wondering,
00:23:19.73\00:23:21.63
you used to work in
the corporate world?
00:23:21.63\00:23:24.63
- Yes, I did.
00:23:24.63\00:23:26.03
- And very much like it was
business, it was for profit,
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it was for a paycheck
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- Yes. - and all of that.
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You came to work
with Jesus for Asia,
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can you share a little bit
of why just really briefly?
00:23:34.68\00:23:37.45
I know you've got quite a story.
00:23:37.45\00:23:39.25
I think we've
shared it on another show.
00:23:39.25\00:23:40.88
- Yes. I think so, yeah.
00:23:40.88\00:23:42.22
- But,
00:23:42.22\00:23:43.59
just briefly, why you came
to work with Jesus for Asia
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and what you see now
in your life differently.
00:23:46.29\00:23:49.86
- Yes.
00:23:49.86\00:23:51.23
So I had wanted to be in
missions for quite a while
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and I would periodically
look at the, the offerings,
00:23:57.13\00:24:01.64
like, like at Adventist
volunteer services or AFM or you
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wherever they would list,
- [Natalie] Oh, the mission
00:24:09.01\00:24:10.31
- Calls - possibilities.
00:24:10.31\00:24:11.58
- That's what I would look
00:24:11.58\00:24:12.51
but nobody ever wanted
00:24:12.51\00:24:14.35
a secretary administrative
project manager person.
00:24:14.35\00:24:18.09
So, I pretty much
gave up the idea that
00:24:18.09\00:24:22.26
missions would be something
that I would be able to do,
00:24:22.26\00:24:25.43
but the burden kept going.
00:24:25.43\00:24:27.96
And where I worked, it
was an okay place to work.
00:24:27.96\00:24:30.83
It was trying to
change lives for the positive,
00:24:30.83\00:24:34.77
but it wasn't a
spiritual reason.
00:24:34.77\00:24:37.71
It was more of a
social and health
00:24:37.71\00:24:42.78
way of helping people
00:24:43.45\00:24:44.25
- More of the humanitarian side.
00:24:44.25\00:24:45.48
- [Sharon] Yes, yes.
00:24:45.48\00:24:46.82
And so when the opportunity
presented itself finally
00:24:46.82\00:24:51.85
(Natalie laughs)
00:24:53.25\00:24:54.26
to come, I said -
Lots of history there.
00:24:54.26\00:24:56.69
- A lot of
history in this story.
00:24:56.69\00:24:58.03
I I'm came, and it was,
you know, reduction in pay,
00:24:58.03\00:25:03.06
it was leaving
everything that I knew,
00:25:04.03\00:25:07.80
it was downsizing to
a smaller place to live,
00:25:07.80\00:25:12.87
and yet
00:25:13.27\00:25:14.51
- And you lost your
commute? - [Sharon] I did.
00:25:14.51\00:25:16.04
- I mean, that
was the biggest thing.
00:25:16.04\00:25:17.38
- I lost my hour and a
half commute twice a day.
00:25:17.38\00:25:20.18
- Each way. Yeah.
00:25:20.18\00:25:21.18
- But yeah, that was,
I was happy to do that.
00:25:22.28\00:25:25.49
- I know.
00:25:25.49\00:25:26.29
- That's crazy, no one should
00:25:26.29\00:25:27.39
- It's just one
of those different
00:25:27.39\00:25:28.52
- drive three hours a
day just to go to work
00:25:28.52\00:25:29.59
But anyway, by
being here, there,
00:25:29.59\00:25:33.96
I haven't lacked anything,
00:25:33.96\00:25:36.93
I have had the opportunity
to connect with missionaries
00:25:36.93\00:25:39.93
around the world,
00:25:39.93\00:25:40.97
see God do amazing
things on a daily basis.
00:25:40.97\00:25:45.17
And our, our, our
trip, even to Bangladesh,
00:25:45.17\00:25:49.14
we had so many
evidences of God stepping in
00:25:49.14\00:25:53.68
and helping or protecting or
00:25:53.68\00:25:57.52
any other thing
that he would do.
00:25:57.52\00:25:59.22
We could see it, it it's real.
00:25:59.22\00:26:01.76
And that was
something that I didn't have in,
00:26:01.76\00:26:05.16
in my corporate area work,
00:26:05.16\00:26:07.86
where you would go to work
and you would do your emails
00:26:07.86\00:26:11.13
and you would do your
projects and you would,
00:26:11.13\00:26:13.64
and then you go home. - Yeah.
00:26:13.64\00:26:15.00
- [Sharon] But here, seeing.
- There was tasks and duties.
00:26:15.00\00:26:17.84
- Yes. Yeah.
00:26:17.84\00:26:18.91
But here it's like,
what will God do today?
00:26:18.91\00:26:21.54
- Yeah.
00:26:21.54\00:26:22.64
- It's pretty
much how you come in.
00:26:22.64\00:26:24.48
- Yeah.
00:26:24.48\00:26:25.55
- You, you just don't know.
00:26:25.55\00:26:26.58
He is amazing, he
cares about his people,
00:26:26.58\00:26:30.32
the very people
that I was wondering
00:26:30.32\00:26:32.05
who was gonna go and
tell them about the gospel.
00:26:32.05\00:26:36.42
He knows them, and
he cares about them.
00:26:36.42\00:26:39.43
And I believe that he is working
out way for them to hear.
00:26:39.43\00:26:44.33
- Yeah.
00:26:44.33\00:26:45.67
- [Sharon] Because
that's the kind of God he is.
00:26:45.67\00:26:46.47
- Right. - So, yeah.
00:26:46.47\00:26:47.27
- And that's what his word says.
00:26:47.27\00:26:48.10
- Yeah. It's true.
00:26:48.10\00:26:49.34
- Every nation.
00:26:49.34\00:26:50.71
- Every nation, kindred,
tribe, tongue, and people.
00:26:50.71\00:26:53.88
- Yeah.
00:26:53.88\00:26:54.91
- But yeah, it's a
whole different mindset.
00:26:54.91\00:26:56.18
We, you work in an environment
where a need comes up
00:26:56.18\00:27:00.42
and everyone stops and prays.
00:27:00.42\00:27:01.75
- Mm-hmm.
00:27:01.75\00:27:02.78
- We lift each
other up in prayer,
00:27:02.78\00:27:04.55
we support our
missionaries in prayer
00:27:04.55\00:27:07.52
that did not happen in
the corporate world, so
00:27:07.52\00:27:10.36
- Yeah.
00:27:10.36\00:27:11.43
- It's a big shift,
but big it's a good one.
00:27:11.43\00:27:14.30
So yeah, no regrets.
00:27:14.30\00:27:15.63
- All right.
00:27:15.63\00:27:16.46
Well, praise the Lord.
00:27:16.46\00:27:17.87
Thank you so much, Sharon.
- [Sharon] You're welcome.
00:27:17.87\00:27:18.97
for coming and
sharing with us your burdens
00:27:18.97\00:27:20.67
for the people
of Bangladesh today.
00:27:20.67\00:27:22.20
- Thank you.
00:27:22.20\00:27:23.00
- And I would like to invite you
00:27:23.00\00:27:24.01
to help with the
projects in Bangladesh.
00:27:24.01\00:27:26.84
First of all, by prayer because
00:27:26.84\00:27:28.31
these are opportunities
we're sharing with you today.
00:27:28.31\00:27:30.85
We have not been
able to start them yet.
00:27:30.85\00:27:33.18
There's need for connections,
00:27:33.18\00:27:34.62
there's need for
God to open the way
00:27:34.62\00:27:36.92
some of the places we
have locations, some of them we
00:27:36.92\00:27:40.62
don't. So there's a lot
of details to be worked out,
00:27:40.62\00:27:42.82
besides the
funding that is needed.
00:27:42.82\00:27:45.19
So if you would like to
help, you can contact us at
00:27:45.19\00:27:47.96
Jesus for Asia PO Box 1221
Collegedale, Tennessee 37315.
00:27:47.96\00:27:53.00
Call us at (423) 413-7321,
00:27:55.24\00:27:59.64
or visit our
website @jesus4asia.org
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Make God richly bless you,
00:28:03.31\00:28:05.05
until we see you next
time, on Jesus for Asia Now.
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(soft music)
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