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- Hello and welcome
to "Jesus for Asia Now."
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I'm Natalie Wood
and my husband, John,
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is joining me today
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as we talk about the
country of Timor-Leste.
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We have a special guest with us,
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our pastor,
Pastor Chris Anderson.
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Hello Pastor Chris,
welcome to the show.
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- Hey, good afternoon.
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(chuckles)
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- It's good to have you here.
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- Thanks, it's great to be here.
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- And we've got some exciting
things to talk about today,
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and so it's gonna be good.
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- Yeah, God's
really moved in your life
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and it's amazing what
we see happening there.
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- Yeah.
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Well first of all,
I know the two of you
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went to Timor-Leste,
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and how did we
end up with something
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going on in Timor-Leste?
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- So in January of 2019, the
Southern Asia Pacific Division,
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was having a
missions conference in Bali.
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And they were inviting
all the supporting ministries,
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so that the church and
the supporting ministries
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could work
together more efficiently,
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and get to know
each other better.
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And I was invited to go,
I didn't really wanna go.
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I didn't really
wanna go to Bali,
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I heard it was
just a vacation spot.
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I'm not really
interested in vacation spots
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but I felt that
I should to learn,
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make
connections and meet people.
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So I flew down there,
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it was supposed to be
a four day conference.
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And while I was there,
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I met the president of
the Timor-Leste mission.
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Now I had known about
Timor-Leste from before,
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because my good
friend, Pastor Douglas Venn,
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who we shot, "I
Want the City" with,
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had gone there
after I had left Bangkok
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and told me about it.
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And so when I met
Pastor House there,
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we started talking,
and Tim Maddocks was there,
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he was the one that kind
of initiated the conversation.
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And we learned
more about Timor-Leste,
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how the church
was just starting out,
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just, you know,
recently starting to grow,
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and how they had
never had a camp meeting
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in the entire
country, in its entire history.
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And we're like, we
could do a Faith Camp.
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And Tim Maddocks is like,
yeah, you could do a Faith Camp.
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And so we're like,
okay, let's organize it.
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And thankfully, over the
course of the last few years
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in Faith Camp,
the Lord has blessed,
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and we had a little extra funds
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that we could reach
out to do a Faith Camp
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in an area that obviously
wasn't gonna do a return,
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a financial
return on the Faith Camp,
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but, and it was very expensive,
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but we were like, you know what,
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how often do you get
a chance to plant seeds?
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How often do you
get a chance to enter
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into the growth of an
entire country's church?
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- Right,
encourage a newer church.
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- Yeah and so we
planned it for September,
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we had Tim Maddocks come down,
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Daniel and Laura Drea,
came down and joined us.
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And then I was looking
at the lineup and I'm like,
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you know what, I really
need somebody that's gonna have
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some solid Bible truth.
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Mostly Faith Camp is
about outreach and missions.
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Whereas with some
of these countries,
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you also need to
teach in the Bible truth.
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- They need church growth
and revival or encouragement.
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- Exactly and we he had joined
recently a new church plant
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here in the Chattanooga
area called South Bay.
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- Right.
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- I was praying about
who should go with us,
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who we should bring with us,
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to kind of round
out the whole presenters
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and I thought about the
pastor and our new church plant,
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in South Bay, Pastor Chris.
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He's got a unique story,
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he worked in
construction for many years,
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and then went back to
get a theology degree,
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because God was
calling him into the ministry.
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And they had, as a family
had been to Africa in the past.
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And I don't know if you
like me telling your story.
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(laughter)
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So I called you and says,
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would you be interested
and going to Timor-Leste?
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Do you remember
that conversation.
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- Yeah, so I got a
call from you about this,
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Chris would you be open to it?
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And I love
overseas, I love missions,
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my family and I,
we served in Africa
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for a little while in Zambia,
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traveled
extensively over Africa.
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The challenge was, I
just had a lot on my plate,
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I was very busy,
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and I took some time
to just think about it.
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But as I'm open to
exploring the idea,
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so we pursued it further
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and I pursued it
with my conference,
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they gave me permission to go.
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And so all the
pieces came together.
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It was just exciting,
the opportunity to share
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at the very first Faith
Camp meeting in Timor-Leste,
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I mean, it's just
what a need opportunity.
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- Right.
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So where is Timor-Leste?
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- So Timor-Leste is
over in the Pacific.
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It's right above Australia,
kinda center straight above,
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and you've got this
chain of islands of Indonesia,
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comes down at the very
last island is split in half,
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and the Eastern
side is Timor-Leste.
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So it's just right over there,
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as far in the
world, as you can go,
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it's like one of
the most remote places
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on the planet, you know.
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(laughter)
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It's tough to get there.
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- Yeah.
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What did it take to get there?
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I mean, what was.
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- Yeah, so like,
days and days of flying.
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I mean, I was
exhausted, you know.
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So I flew over
to the middle east,
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and then I flew
over to Indonesia,
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and then I flew this little
tiny plane over into Dili.
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And when we were landing,
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I was wondering about the pilot
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because he circled around
the airport there in Dili,
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and then he came down and
all I could see was water,
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because the
runway is kind of crooked
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and it's right beside the ocean.
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And we just kept
getting lower and lower
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and lower to the water,
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and I thought men
this is a suicide pilot.
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You know, I had no idea,
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we just kept getting
lower and lower and lower.
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And I was just, Lord, my
life is in your hands you know?
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And we hit the runway, as
soon as he hit the runway,
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then I saw the land,
I'm like, okay we're okay.
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It was just an interesting
experience landing there.
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- Trying to remember if
there were floats on plane
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got it in.
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- But it's beautiful island,
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I mean it's just
really mountainous,
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these jugged mountains
just jutting up out of the ocean
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and goes right
down into the ocean.
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- Yeah, so this
picture is of Dili.
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This is where we landed,
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and you can see that the
mountains are very dry actually.
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- So it's pretty
dry, yeah, for sure,
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and particularly on this side,
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and Dili's just
this large flat space
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with kind of a dry river
bed that comes out through it
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until they get rain,
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and then it really
floods the whole area.
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- Yeah, I bet.
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So what's the
history of Timor-Leste?
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- So Timor-Leste has
an interesting history,
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they were a Portuguese
colony for like 400 years.
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And sandalwood
and some other spices
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and things I guess,
is from what I understand
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was some of their main exports.
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And then in 1975, they
gained their independence
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and that was short-lived.
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Nine days later,
Indonesia came in,
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with their
military and the war ships,
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and took over the island.
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About a quarter of
the population was killed,
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brutally killed and held
under the Indonesian regime
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for well over 25 years or so.
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And then in 2002,
the United Nations
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brokered some sort
of a deal with Indonesia
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and they were able to
gain their independence.
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So in 2002, they were
the very first new country
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in the 21st century.
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And so they were pretty
excited about that obviously,
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but they're a new country,
they're only about 19 years old.
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The Adventist
church kind of began then
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and so the Adventist
church is still brand new there.
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It's still a small,
small church presence.
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- Okay, what's
the major religion
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that's there in that island?
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- So being a Portuguese
colony it's 98, 99% Catholic.
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- Okay, so how's
the church growing?
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How it it doing?
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What's the main
challenge that it has?
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- So the church
has grown dramatically.
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I mean there's
been a lot of evangelism
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that's happened
throughout the island
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and people are just excited
about the Adventist message.
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And so there's two
official churches there.
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They had the
second official church
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that was just
inaugurated this last December.
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So, and then there's
five or six companies
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scattered throughout the island.
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There's about 600
church members that are there,
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and pastor House, the
previous president there
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has just done an amazing job
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helping to
strengthen the church.
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And there's been a school
that's been established there,
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it's called TAIS, Timor
Adventist International School.
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And while the official language
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of the country is not English,
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the school is taught English
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because many people
would like to have their kids
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learn the English language.
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And so the school
is highly sought after,
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many, many people
from the community
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are sending the kids there.
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It had explosion of growth.
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And this has been a
primary entering wedge
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really into the country,
having this school that's there.
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- So that school
when we were there,
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we've got some
pictures of the school,
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it looks like they were
meeting out on the porches.
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- So they have an
interesting school location.
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They search for
six or seven years
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to find a piece of property.
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It's very difficult
because all the titles
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are in either
Portuguese or they're Indonesian
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or somewhere in between.
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- In titles to land.
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- Titles to the land.
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So it's hard to find a piece
of land that has clear deed.
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And so they
worked for a long of time
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and finally God
led them to this piece.
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It's just a beautiful piece
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and kind of in the
middle of the town there.
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And so when we were there,
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they had the schools
kind of in the verandas
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of the large house
that was on this property.
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And so interestingly enough,
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the 13th sabbath
offering of this quarter,
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the first quarter of
2022 is going to help
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build a permanent
school there at that location.
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- Oh nice.
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- Very nice.
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- So we were staying in
some permanent structures
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and that's where
our camp meeting was,
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is in one of the temporary
structures of the school.
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- Excellent.
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- So this is one
of the structures,
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this is actually the structure
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that we had the Faith Camp in.
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We had the roof on,
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I think they worked really hard
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to get the the cement
pod and the roof put on.
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So they were
just starting to build
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this structure at the time.
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And this is where we
had the whole weekend,
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we started
Wednesday evening at seven
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and finished
Sunday morning around noon
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and did the whole thing here,
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and I had a lot
of people joining us.
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This was the
front of the church,
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this was pastor
Ray House on the left
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and he was the one
that invited us here
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and kind of officiated
throughout the whole meetings.
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- So pastor House
had done a lot of work,
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getting things ready,
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and he's well
loved by the people.
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I mean, he's spent
a lot of time with him
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and really has put his
heart energy into this work.
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- That's awesome.
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So this is kind of the group
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with the
speakers, the presenters,
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as well as some of the
local teachers for that school.
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And then this is how
the people lived there.
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- Camp meeting.
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(chuckles)
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- People had come from all
over the island, didn't they?
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- They had, they had
come from the far reaches
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of the island to camp meeting.
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They were really excited.
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And they had come in trucks
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and in the back beds of
large trucks and everything,
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they come many
different ways to come to this.
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- That's awesome.
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- So the man in
this picture here
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is a one of the
global mission pioneers
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that's working on an
island off of Timor-Leste.
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So they have a large
island called Arturo,
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and he is one of the
workers over there planting,
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doing church
planting over in that island.
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- Wow, awesome.
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- All right, so we started,
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it was a
Wednesday night, 7:00 p.m.
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- That evening,
it was just so nice.
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I mean everyone was excited
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and the singing
it was beautiful.
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- It was awesome.
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And then during the daytime,
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people would just
hang out between meetings
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and get in family
groups and play and seeing,
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and you went around and
visited with some of them,
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and I think you made a
lot of good connections
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and friendships there.
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- Made some great friends, yeah.
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The camp meeting was
more than just meetings,
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there was times that
we just spent together
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and we just got to know them
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and there's such a people,
they're really hospitable
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and there's some
language barriers
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because they don't
speak English well,
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and I don't speak
Tetum or Portuguese.
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But we worked
our way through that,
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when you have a love
of God in your heart,
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and they have a love
of God in their heart,
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I mean there's just a bond
and a connection that's there.
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So yeah made
really good friends,
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they are still are friends
on Facebook, we stay in touch.
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- That's awesome.
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- That's good.
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- So Faith Camp always
starts Wednesday evening
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with a keynote speech.
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And then we
start the next morning,
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we have six meetings
normally during the day.
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But then before that
we have a United prayer,
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people come together
and we pray together.
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With this situation,
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that meant we met
very early in the morning,
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before the sun came up
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and I wasn't sure how
they would receive this.
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And I don't normally
do the prayer leading,
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but we all gathered
together and we started praying.
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And at first it
was kind of stilted
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because they weren't
sure how this was gonna work.
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But as we progressed,
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as we did this
morning after morning,
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it's like they
started to really connect in.
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- They did, they opened
up to the time of prayer
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and it was just beautiful.
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I mean they were just
pouring out their hearts.
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I couldn't always understand
what they were praying
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but I could sense their
heart's desire for more of God
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and the burdens
that were on the heart
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they were just
sharing, it was a beautiful.
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- At first, it was like
we had to really stretch
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to make the 45 minutes and
the last day I just let them go
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'cause I felt the
holy spirit moving,
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and we went an hour and
a half without stopping.
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And you can see
they're just really into it.
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They're tired,
but just loving it.
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And you put this picture in,
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I remember that little girl.
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- Yeah.
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Lots of children
there just happy,
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and of course a lot of
them are in the school,
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the ones that are
living near Dili there.
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But so many happy children,
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just happy to be a
part of this program.
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- Awesome.
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- Now there was this young girl
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that their
parents brought her in
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to have special prayer for her.
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They wanted healing for her.
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And so of course
we believe that God
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has the same power to heal
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as when Jesus was on this earth.
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And so we had prayer
for her asking God's will
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to be done in her life,
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and we certainly wanted to
ask that if it was his will
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that he would heal her,
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and so we had this
special prayer for her.
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So the men
decided to cook one day,
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and so here here's the
men giving their wives a break
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and they were having a good
time cooking in the kitchen.
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- Nice.
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- It's good food too.
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- It was good.
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(laughter)
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- So tell me about
this man in the wheelchair?
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- So this man was at
every single meeting.
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And he was kind
of somber at first,
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but I always made an
effort to go sit by him
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and talk with him and
try to communicate with him.
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And he just warmed up
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and became so
much more friendly.
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He and his wife
were there every day
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they just really
enjoyed the camp meeting
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and they were just so
blessed by being around.
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- Is there
anything special about this?
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- So this is one
of the local houses
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that's near the near the school
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and they're fairly
simple as you can see,
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just a block
structure with a metal roof,
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rusting metal roof.
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- Beautiful decorations.
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- Yeah, nice plants.
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- Yeah, that's the
nice thing about being over
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in that part of the
country, plants grow.
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- Yeah
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- And I think during the week,
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you took a hike up beside Dili
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and got to see
over the top of Dili.
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- So this is pastor
Bossty that I was with,
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he's the pastor of
the church in Dili.
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- So while you
were on this walk,
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you recorded his telling
you about his hearts burden.
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So we'll play that.
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- Our plan is God bless.
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We are happy to see a
school in Dili, in the city,
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but outside the
city, we need a dormitory,
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we also need clinic,
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a place to have camp meeting.
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We'll also be happy
to see big agriculture,
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because in
Timor-Leste all our food comes
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from outside my country.
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But we like to grow our
food within our country,
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this is my plan
and prayer, thank you.
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- He was mentioning them
getting food from outside
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of the country, I
imagine is super expensive.
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So he's hoping to start farming
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so that they can
grow their own food.
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So this is just
a street in Dili.
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- Yeah's just a street in Dili.
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- Another.
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- Pretty house with
some stone work yeah.
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- Okay so tell us
about this family.
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- So this is pastor Anesiho,
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he is the executive secretary
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and the current acting
president in between presidents.
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And he's an ordained
pastor that is Timor-Leste
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Timor-Moris that is Timor-Moris
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And he's just a dedicated man.
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He tells stories about
how, when the work began,
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they would just be out
carrying on meetings in the bush
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and just
sleeping under the stars.
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And he's just, he's
served the church faithfully
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for many, many years
and just a godly man.
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- Dedicated.
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- So I think this is a good
time to kind of fast forward
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a year and a half
from this Faith Camp.
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I was in Thailand and I
saw a very unique announcement
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that you had
accepted a position.
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And the reason I
bring that up now
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is because you are looking
forward to working with this man
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in the future.
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- Absolutely, yeah, yeah.
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- So, after this camp meeting,
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I stayed in touch with
the workers over there.
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I mean Pastor House
is a friend of mine,
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we stay in touch on
Facebook and comment
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on each other's pictures
and pastor Ignasio as well.
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And so I'm good friends
with these folks on Facebook
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and things and we
just stayed in touch
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and they just been a
dear spot in my heart
00:16:02.49\00:16:04.53
for the work that's over there.
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And where I'm at
now, I love my church,
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I love, absolutely
love them to pieces
00:16:08.90\00:16:11.60
and would never
consider going anywhere else.
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But pastor House was needed
to come back to the States
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and they needed a replacement
to take his place over there.
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And so we received a
call to come serve over there
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in his place.
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And boy it really was
hard for us to consider this.
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My wife and I honestly prayed,
00:16:27.08\00:16:29.02
and over a time
of praying about it,
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we really had a sense of
peace and a sense of clarity
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that this is where
God is calling us and so.
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Yeah so when you saw
the announcement there,
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we had received
and accepted a call,
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to come serve as the president
of the Timor-Leste mission.
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- Yeah, so yeah, we're
gonna miss you a crazy amount.
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I have no idea what pastor
00:16:45.10\00:16:46.13
they're gonna
bring in your place,
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we'll probably leave it.
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- A better one question.
00:16:48.57\00:16:50.21
- Yeah that but yes.
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- A lot a prayer guide
can provide the right pastor
00:16:52.74\00:16:54.64
for South Bay too.
00:16:54.64\00:16:56.31
- That's right absolutely.
00:16:56.31\00:16:57.15
- Yeah.
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But South Bay was your church
before you became a pastor.
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- Yeah that's right.
00:17:00.28\00:17:01.32
So as South Bay started,
00:17:01.32\00:17:02.68
I was just the
missional leader of the church.
00:17:02.68\00:17:05.32
And then over a period of
time, I went back to school,
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got my theology
degree and I was hired
00:17:08.16\00:17:10.46
to work there
part-time while I was in school.
00:17:10.46\00:17:11.49
And then when I finished,
00:17:11.49\00:17:12.76
they ended up
hiring me full time.
00:17:12.76\00:17:14.63
So I've been full
time pastor there.
00:17:14.63\00:17:16.16
So I kind of grew
up with South Bay,
00:17:16.16\00:17:18.37
as it grew, I
grew, you know, anyway.
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- Has your wife
been to Timor-Leste yet?
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- So my wife has not been there,
00:17:22.47\00:17:23.64
she's just seen pictures.
00:17:23.64\00:17:24.77
And when I was
there, I would faceTime her,
00:17:24.77\00:17:26.34
and so she met a
number of the people.
00:17:26.34\00:17:28.71
But she's had a sense of peace
00:17:28.71\00:17:29.81
that this is
where God is leading.
00:17:29.81\00:17:31.05
- Wow, that's amazing.
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So in your transit, it's like,
00:17:32.75\00:17:34.95
is this gonna be
like a long transition?
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You gonna ship a
whole bunch of furniture
00:17:37.15\00:17:38.85
and stuff over there?
00:17:38.85\00:17:39.92
- So the
transition is fairly short.
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I mean, we're headed
over there this summer in may.
00:17:41.79\00:17:44.29
And now we're just
gonna pack what's in our bags,
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we're not shipping a container.
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What we can put on our bags
00:17:48.00\00:17:49.40
is what we're gonna
take over there, you know?
00:17:49.40\00:17:51.57
- So when you get there you're
gonna hit the ground running,
00:17:51.57\00:17:54.07
you know a little bit
about what the needs are
00:17:54.07\00:17:55.84
'cause you were
there at Faith Camp.
00:17:55.84\00:17:58.41
What is gonna be
your first priority?
00:17:58.41\00:18:01.34
- I'm still learning
what some of the needs are,
00:18:01.34\00:18:03.11
and pastor House has
done a tremendous job
00:18:03.11\00:18:04.71
leading the church there.
00:18:04.71\00:18:05.95
And so I'm trying to understand
what he has been doing
00:18:05.95\00:18:08.35
so I can
strengthen what has happened.
00:18:08.35\00:18:10.65
And so they are in the
process of building a school
00:18:10.65\00:18:13.76
over on a far part of
the island in Los pollos.
00:18:13.76\00:18:16.26
And so I'm headed
over there in February
00:18:16.26\00:18:18.59
for a couple of weeks,
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to find out what's
going on with that school,
00:18:19.86\00:18:21.43
as well as the 13th
seventh offering this quarter.
00:18:21.43\00:18:24.53
Now the first quarter
of 2022 is going to help
00:18:24.53\00:18:26.67
build the school in Dili.
00:18:26.67\00:18:28.57
They had temporary structures
00:18:28.57\00:18:30.01
but they'll be
building some permanent ones.
00:18:30.01\00:18:31.31
So I'll be meeting the
division officers over there
00:18:31.31\00:18:33.21
and Peter Coolick,
00:18:33.21\00:18:34.54
who is the gentleman that
works for a general conference
00:18:34.54\00:18:36.61
in charge of
their building programs,
00:18:36.61\00:18:38.81
be meeting them there.
00:18:38.81\00:18:40.22
We're praying that we can get
this building project started,
00:18:40.22\00:18:42.75
so they can
hopefully be open this fall
00:18:42.75\00:18:44.65
for our school system.
00:18:44.65\00:18:46.12
- So you're praying for a
really strong 13 Sabbath offer.
00:18:46.12\00:18:48.59
- Yes, we're praying a
strong 13 Sabbath offering.
00:18:48.59\00:18:50.79
- You know, it's interesting
'cause I think a lot of times
00:18:50.79\00:18:52.63
we look at the
13 Sabbath offering
00:18:52.63\00:18:54.46
and it's so
disconnected, you know.
00:18:54.46\00:18:56.56
So we give by faith,
00:18:56.56\00:18:57.87
but we have no
idea where it goes,
00:18:57.87\00:19:00.14
and it's kind of like
putting into a black hole.
00:19:00.14\00:19:02.07
But now we can see you
are gonna be directly affected
00:19:02.07\00:19:05.57
by our 13 Sabbath offering.
00:19:05.57\00:19:07.38
- Well the 13
Sabbath offering is,
00:19:07.38\00:19:08.78
it makes such a difference
in the lives of the people
00:19:08.78\00:19:10.18
around the world.
00:19:10.18\00:19:11.55
And so yeah, just flip
your quarterly over on the back
00:19:11.55\00:19:12.65
and you can see
where it's going.
00:19:12.65\00:19:13.75
You can pray
about those locations
00:19:13.75\00:19:15.35
and then when your funds go,
00:19:15.35\00:19:16.69
it really makes
a huge difference
00:19:16.69\00:19:18.62
in ways that they couldn't
raise enough money to do,
00:19:18.62\00:19:21.56
and so they're able
to do larger projects
00:19:21.56\00:19:23.09
through the world church
giving to make this happen.
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That's awesome.
00:19:25.53\00:19:26.86
And so we can, in addition
to that school, that project,
00:19:26.86\00:19:29.50
we can start praying
that you'd be able to build
00:19:29.50\00:19:31.40
a network of schools
throughout the island.
00:19:31.40\00:19:33.60
- Yeah we'd love to
see a network of schools
00:19:33.60\00:19:35.17
throughout the
island that we can provide.
00:19:35.17\00:19:36.50
- Maybe some smaller lower
costs like elementary schools.
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Do you need to
like train the teachers,
00:19:39.57\00:19:41.34
because I know in Cambodia
we had to train our teachers?
00:19:41.34\00:19:44.71
- I mean that's the desire
is that there is local teachers
00:19:44.71\00:19:47.32
that are raised up.
00:19:47.32\00:19:48.42
lot of the teachers
that are teaching now
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or from other
locations coming in.
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So the teachers need
raised up and trained
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to carry on the work.
00:19:53.22\00:19:54.86
- Okay, do you see opportunities
00:19:54.86\00:19:56.56
for people coming in and
doing a short term mission
00:19:56.56\00:19:59.06
type of work?
00:19:59.06\00:20:00.40
- Oh yes we definitely
have lots of opportunities
00:20:00.40\00:20:01.73
for evangelism, for health
work, for building projects.
00:20:01.73\00:20:04.73
Yeah we definitely
could use some help there.
00:20:04.73\00:20:06.27
- Awesome.
00:20:06.27\00:20:07.64
Okay, well, I'd like to
go back to the Faith Camp,
00:20:07.64\00:20:08.97
how did you enjoy the
music while we were there?
00:20:08.97\00:20:11.04
- Oh, the music was wonderful,
00:20:11.04\00:20:12.41
and the people loved to sing
and I look at this little one.
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(laughter)
00:20:16.31\00:20:17.48
- The babies are so cute.
00:20:17.48\00:20:19.05
- Yeah precious.
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- Wonderful families,
there they are smiling,
00:20:20.78\00:20:22.08
right there that's the
picture I was talking about.
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- Oh, that's the
man with the wheelchair.
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- Yes, the man with a
wheelchair that was smiling.
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- That's awesome and his wife.
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They've had a really hard life.
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I mean is only in the seventies
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where they had that genocide.
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And most of these
people their families
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have a missing
member because of that.
00:20:36.90\00:20:38.97
And so they have that
recovering thing from PTSD
00:20:38.97\00:20:42.47
and stuff like that, that
they're having to deal with.
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This photo here
is of the lunch line.
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Now he is made
really excellent food.
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- Good food, it was simple,
00:20:49.74\00:20:51.31
but it was just really nice to,
00:20:51.31\00:20:52.58
you know, eat together
and spend time with them
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and share a meal.
00:20:54.18\00:20:55.35
- Loved it.
00:20:55.35\00:20:56.55
- This lady is
weaving Tais cloth,
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which is a special
fabric that is distinct
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and unique to this island.
00:21:02.39\00:21:03.69
- Okay, all right, you're
gonna have to get one of those.
00:21:03.69\00:21:06.76
- I have a
piece for faith, yeah.
00:21:06.76\00:21:08.00
- Okay.
00:21:08.00\00:21:08.66
Throughout the meetings,
00:21:08.66\00:21:10.10
again, six hours
of meetings per day.
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Sometimes it went
a little bit longer
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and people just drink it up.
00:21:14.30\00:21:16.44
- They really
enjoyed the meetings, yeah.
00:21:16.44\00:21:18.47
I mean sometimes the
kids got a little sleepy,
00:21:18.47\00:21:19.84
but the parents
were so interested.
00:21:19.84\00:21:21.68
- So this is a hymnal
from the church there.
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The local language is Tetum
which I'd never heard of before.
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There's actually
quite a number of languages
00:21:29.08\00:21:30.75
spoken on that island,
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Tetum is the main language.
00:21:32.22\00:21:34.56
- Yeah so Tetum and Portuguese
are the official languages.
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Portuguese is more used in
the legal element of the island
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and Tetum is
what's mostly spoken,
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but you're right, there's
a number of languages there.
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- Are you gonna try
to learn the language?
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- Even now I'm
trying to learn Tetum,
00:21:46.67\00:21:48.67
and I've got some
stuff I learning online.
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So Deak Lae is how are you?
00:21:50.74\00:21:53.91
and your response would be Deak.
00:21:53.91\00:21:55.18
- Deak.
00:21:55.18\00:21:56.08
That sounds simple.
00:21:56.08\00:21:56.91
- Deak Lae.
00:21:56.91\00:21:57.88
- Deak.
00:21:57.88\00:21:58.98
- Good.
00:21:58.98\00:21:59.81
- Perfect.
00:21:59.81\00:22:00.58
- All right.
00:22:00.58\00:22:01.25
- Congratulations.
00:22:01.25\00:22:02.22
(laughter)
00:22:02.22\00:22:03.32
- All right so
towards the weekend though,
00:22:03.32\00:22:05.15
the numbers
started really climbing.
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I think day and Friday,
00:22:06.96\00:22:08.62
we had like a
hundred, 150 people,
00:22:08.62\00:22:11.26
but Sabbath, I
think pretty much a third
00:22:11.26\00:22:13.43
of the entire church membership
00:22:13.43\00:22:15.20
of the entire island showed up.
00:22:15.20\00:22:17.07
- Yeah, the church
was full on Sabbath,
00:22:17.07\00:22:19.10
it was beautiful
to see everyone there.
00:22:19.10\00:22:20.37
- Yeah.
00:22:20.37\00:22:21.74
It was so powerful and people
just really drinking it in,
00:22:21.74\00:22:24.37
just loving it,
every single presentation.
00:22:24.37\00:22:27.18
The music to me
throughout the week,
00:22:27.18\00:22:29.88
got stronger and more spiritual
00:22:29.88\00:22:31.61
and more, you know, convicted
00:22:31.61\00:22:33.11
that you could just see people's
hearts were being moved.
00:22:33.11\00:22:35.48
And I just love being in a place
00:22:35.48\00:22:37.05
where God's word is preached
00:22:37.05\00:22:39.22
by a number of different people.
00:22:39.22\00:22:41.09
And we don't plan ahead of time,
00:22:41.09\00:22:43.09
but it seems like
all of our sermons,
00:22:43.09\00:22:44.76
all of our presentations,
00:22:44.76\00:22:45.89
just sink into
place and they just fall,
00:22:45.89\00:22:48.33
you know, they
just have this unity
00:22:48.33\00:22:50.30
that makes an overall
strong direct impression.
00:22:50.30\00:22:53.44
- Yeah well the
spirit definitely led.
00:22:53.44\00:22:54.94
- Yeah
00:22:54.94\00:22:56.17
- yeah.
00:22:56.17\00:22:57.44
- Yeah, God expands
the expands the theme
00:22:57.44\00:22:59.51
throughout by, you know,
00:22:59.51\00:23:00.68
this sermon
touches on this part of it
00:23:00.68\00:23:02.71
and this sermon
touches on the next part of it,
00:23:02.71\00:23:04.68
and it just all
meshes together nicely.
00:23:04.68\00:23:07.35
Yeah.
00:23:07.35\00:23:08.25
(congregation singing)
00:23:09.15\00:23:12.49
- And here's a shot of
you actually preaching.
00:23:32.37\00:23:34.98
And do you remember
what you were thinking,
00:23:34.98\00:23:36.34
while you were feeling
while you were preaching there?
00:23:36.34\00:23:38.91
Well I just had a
heart for the people.
00:23:38.91\00:23:39.95
I mean they're
such special people
00:23:39.95\00:23:41.38
and I just wanted them
to experience the power
00:23:41.38\00:23:44.25
and the love of
Jesus in their life
00:23:44.25\00:23:45.95
and to just have a
deeper walk with them.
00:23:45.95\00:23:48.12
- Yeah.
00:23:48.12\00:23:49.42
- They're such sweet
people, fell in love with him.
00:23:49.42\00:23:50.76
- That's awesome.
00:23:50.76\00:23:51.86
And looks like you
met a family there.
00:23:51.86\00:23:53.86
- This family
here, we met together
00:23:53.86\00:23:56.36
and we had
prayer for this couple.
00:23:56.36\00:23:59.43
They were, he was not an
Adventist and I believe she was,
00:23:59.43\00:24:02.14
and he was struggling
with some things in his life.
00:24:02.14\00:24:04.81
I think he had some addictions
00:24:04.81\00:24:06.57
and they asked
that we pray with them,
00:24:06.57\00:24:08.44
and this man in
the blue shirt, Ane,
00:24:08.44\00:24:10.71
was good friends and had
been studying with these folks.
00:24:10.71\00:24:13.45
And so we went over
there to have prayer with them.
00:24:13.45\00:24:15.22
So they'd come to the meetings,
he not being an Adventist.
00:24:15.22\00:24:17.15
It was
beautiful, so we had prayer
00:24:17.15\00:24:18.19
and ask God's
power in their life.
00:24:18.19\00:24:19.59
- Nice.
00:24:19.59\00:24:20.66
- That's awesome.
00:24:20.66\00:24:21.79
Coming to the very
last day, it's was a Sunday,
00:24:21.79\00:24:22.99
I dunno if you remember.
00:24:22.99\00:24:24.49
We all got that around in
circle and people just shared.
00:24:24.49\00:24:28.00
- It was painful.
00:24:28.00\00:24:29.03
Actually I
remember people weeping
00:24:29.03\00:24:30.80
in our time of prayer.
00:24:30.80\00:24:31.90
- Yeah, the ground was wet,
00:24:31.90\00:24:34.10
I remember you
guys sharing that story
00:24:34.10\00:24:36.40
of how it was
just, they were weeping
00:24:36.40\00:24:38.37
and the whole ground was wet
under where they were praying.
00:24:38.37\00:24:41.71
- Yeah, yeah.
00:24:41.71\00:24:43.01
And they just
shared their responses,
00:24:43.01\00:24:45.81
you know,
responses to the weeks.
00:24:45.81\00:24:48.32
We've never done this before
00:24:48.32\00:24:49.38
where people just
have a chance to share
00:24:49.38\00:24:52.12
what they have
learned during the week.
00:24:52.12\00:24:53.92
And it was
amazing, it was powerful.
00:24:53.92\00:24:56.73
I left on such a high, took
me several days to calm down.
00:24:56.73\00:25:00.80
Actually it was just so
spiritually intense and high
00:25:00.80\00:25:03.90
and such a wonderful experience.
00:25:03.90\00:25:06.07
And then at the
very end of Faith Camp,
00:25:06.07\00:25:07.84
we all gathered in a big circle,
00:25:07.84\00:25:10.14
held hands and sang
side by side, we stand.
00:25:10.14\00:25:13.71
And then we all of course
got the obligatory final photo.
00:25:13.71\00:25:17.85
(chuckles)
00:25:17.85\00:25:19.48
- John that was a beautiful time
00:25:19.48\00:25:21.72
as we finished
up together there.
00:25:21.72\00:25:23.65
And you were on a spiritual high
00:25:23.65\00:25:25.65
and my heart was just broken.
00:25:25.65\00:25:26.99
I mean I felt like I would
never see these people again,
00:25:26.99\00:25:28.72
I wouldn't be
until heaven, you know.
00:25:28.72\00:25:29.89
And you've been places,
00:25:29.89\00:25:31.23
you know, that
you'll never see them again
00:25:31.23\00:25:33.26
and that's it.
00:25:33.26\00:25:34.76
And so that's the
way it is on this earth,
00:25:34.76\00:25:38.40
but we have heaven
to look forward to it
00:25:38.40\00:25:39.73
where we can be together and
what a joyous day that will be.
00:25:39.73\00:25:42.77
- Yeah and now that you
get a chance to go back.
00:25:42.77\00:25:44.91
- I can't wait
to see them again.
00:25:44.91\00:25:46.17
- Yeah.
00:25:46.17\00:25:46.98
- Looking forward to that.
00:25:46.98\00:25:48.04
- What a privilege.
00:25:48.04\00:25:48.88
- Yeah.
00:25:48.88\00:25:49.94
- Yeah, and to
take Faith with you.
00:25:49.94\00:25:51.35
- Oh yeah, Faith is
going to love the people there.
00:25:51.35\00:25:54.12
- And they will love her too.
00:25:54.12\00:25:55.98
- Well "Jesus for
Asia" and Timor-Leste
00:25:55.98\00:25:57.55
has had a good relationship
ever since Faith Camp,
00:25:57.55\00:25:59.75
because pastor
House has been working
00:25:59.75\00:26:02.32
on raising awareness and raising
funds to do these projects,
00:26:02.32\00:26:05.29
to grow the school
system throughout Timor-Leste
00:26:05.29\00:26:08.06
so that more people have a
chance to learn about Christ
00:26:08.06\00:26:10.50
and keep the Sabbath.
00:26:10.50\00:26:12.40
And so we have
been taking donations
00:26:12.40\00:26:15.47
through "Jesus for
Asia", for Timor-Leste.
00:26:15.47\00:26:18.61
We don't take any
money out of what comes in,
00:26:18.61\00:26:21.18
a hundred percent of
it goes to Timor-Leste,
00:26:21.18\00:26:23.31
just because it's God's work.
00:26:23.31\00:26:26.65
- We all wanna see
it go forward., yeah.
00:26:26.65\00:26:27.98
- Absolutely.
00:26:27.98\00:26:29.08
So I hope that we can
continue the same thing
00:26:29.08\00:26:30.95
as you become the
leader there of the church.
00:26:30.95\00:26:33.59
- Amen yeah.
00:26:33.59\00:26:34.86
(chuckles)
00:26:34.86\00:26:37.19
- Thank you for what you
do here at "Jesus for Asia"
00:26:37.19\00:26:38.79
to make such a
difference around the world
00:26:38.79\00:26:40.13
and Timor-Leste is a
place that has a lot of need
00:26:40.13\00:26:43.43
and the work that is done there
00:26:44.47\00:26:46.90
is making such
a huge difference.
00:26:46.90\00:26:48.50
- Amen.
00:26:48.50\00:26:49.57
- They're just drinking it in.
00:26:49.57\00:26:50.51
- So praise the lord.
00:26:50.51\00:26:51.34
- Big channels of light.
00:26:51.34\00:26:52.71
- Such a neat
thing to be a part of.
00:26:52.71\00:26:54.58
- Definitely.
00:26:54.58\00:26:55.64
We're gonna
continue to pray for you.
00:26:55.64\00:26:56.98
- Thank you.
00:26:56.98\00:26:58.08
- And keep in touch
as you go over there,
00:26:58.08\00:26:59.38
and hopefully we can
come and visit sometimes.
00:26:59.38\00:27:00.52
- Hopefully we'll
have a Faith Camp soon.
00:27:00.52\00:27:02.65
- There we go, that'd be nice.
00:27:02.65\00:27:03.95
Yeah.
00:27:03.95\00:27:04.75
- I would like to go this time.
00:27:04.75\00:27:06.15
- Yeah I would like you
to go this time, definitely.
00:27:06.15\00:27:09.96
- Well, pastor Chris,
00:27:09.96\00:27:11.36
I wanna thank you so much for
coming and sharing the stories
00:27:11.36\00:27:13.63
from the trip there
and what's going to happen,
00:27:13.63\00:27:16.13
and we're excited,
00:27:16.13\00:27:17.50
and we're gonna be praying
for you and Faith as you go.
00:27:17.50\00:27:21.27
And we'll just,
we'll just keep in touch,
00:27:21.27\00:27:23.87
we wanna hear the stories
of what God is doing there.
00:27:23.87\00:27:26.11
- Amen, Well thanks
for having me here today.
00:27:26.11\00:27:27.51
- Hopefully when
you come back to visit,
00:27:27.51\00:27:28.98
cause I have a feeling,
00:27:28.98\00:27:30.31
some of your daughters
don't get to go with you.
00:27:30.31\00:27:32.11
- That's right, yeah
we'll be back to visit, yeah.
00:27:32.11\00:27:33.72
- Yeah.
00:27:33.72\00:27:35.05
So maybe we can grab a moment
and sit down and catch up.
00:27:35.05\00:27:37.25
- For sure.
00:27:37.25\00:27:38.35
- And record for
our viewers' sake
00:27:38.35\00:27:39.39
some of the things
that God's doing there.
00:27:39.39\00:27:41.12
- Amen.
00:27:41.12\00:27:41.92
- All right that'd be great.
00:27:41.92\00:27:43.29
And I would like to invite
you to be a part of praying
00:27:43.29\00:27:46.33
for the work in Timor-Leste,
00:27:46.33\00:27:47.73
and if you'd like to be
a part of providing for it,
00:27:47.73\00:27:50.23
please contact us
at "Jesus for Asia"
00:27:50.23\00:27:53.00
PO Box 1221,
00:27:53.00\00:27:54.34
Collegedale Tennessee, 37315.
00:27:54.34\00:27:58.04
Call us at 423 413-7321.
00:27:58.04\00:28:02.14
Or visit our
website at jesusforasia.org.
00:28:02.14\00:28:05.51
May God richly bless you
until we see you next time
00:28:05.51\00:28:08.55
on "Jesus for Asia now".
00:28:08.55\00:28:10.15
(dramatic music)
00:28:11.75\00:28:14.59