(bright soft music) 00:00:00.73\00:00:03.16 - Hello and welcome to Jesus for Asia Now. 00:00:22.08\00:00:24.62 I'm Natalie Wood, and my husband, Jon is joining me 00:00:24.62\00:00:27.29 today. As we share about a brand new ministry type, 00:00:27.29\00:00:30.39 not just a new project, a new type of project. 00:00:30.39\00:00:35.13 Hello Love. 00:00:35.13\00:00:36.10 - Hey darling, how are you? 00:00:36.10\00:00:37.33 - I'm doing good. - Good. 00:00:37.33\00:00:38.63 - I'm looking forward to this show. 00:00:38.63\00:00:40.07 - Yeah. 00:00:40.07\00:00:41.50 - Some major miracle stories. - Yes, very exciting. 00:00:41.50\00:00:43.34 - Okay, so set us up. 00:00:43.34\00:00:45.27 Tell us what we're gonna do today. 00:00:45.27\00:00:46.81 - Okay, several months ago, we had the 10 condos here, 00:00:46.81\00:00:50.51 now, you know the 10 condos. 00:00:50.51\00:00:51.95 - Right, and probably at least some 00:00:51.95\00:00:54.42 of our viewers know them. 00:00:54.42\00:00:55.52 - Absolutely, yeah. 00:00:55.52\00:00:57.02 'Cause we've had them on this show a number of times. 00:00:57.02\00:00:58.92 - Right, Ramon and Shandy. - Yes. 00:00:58.92\00:01:01.12 And they are missionaries in Indonesia. 00:01:01.12\00:01:03.43 - Right. - They're Indonesian. 00:01:03.43\00:01:04.83 - Right. - And they came from a very, 00:01:04.83\00:01:07.10 very wealthy background, that had a lot of wealthy friends 00:01:07.10\00:01:10.67 and God called them into service because they were 00:01:10.67\00:01:13.37 unsatisfied with the things of this world. 00:01:13.37\00:01:16.34 And so they really sought after God, really sought after, 00:01:16.34\00:01:20.04 you know, the message, the truth, who is God. 00:01:21.24\00:01:24.78 We did a faith camp in Jakarta in 2011 00:01:24.78\00:01:28.15 and they learned about service. (Natalie chuckles) 00:01:28.15\00:01:32.09 The missing component. 00:01:32.09\00:01:33.76 And so they moved out into the country 00:01:33.76\00:01:35.29 and they started a satellite ministry. 00:01:35.29\00:01:37.69 Now, Indonesia, as you know, is how many islands? 00:01:37.69\00:01:40.30 - 17,508. - Yeah (indistinct). 00:01:40.30\00:01:43.60 The number changes depending on the type. 00:01:43.60\00:01:45.03 - The water level, yeah. (both chuckles) 00:01:45.03\00:01:47.14 - Not all of them are inhabited, obviously, 00:01:47.14\00:01:49.57 but satellite is the perfect method to reach 17,000 islands. 00:01:49.57\00:01:54.54 And so they've been doing that for 10 years. 00:01:55.71\00:01:57.21 The Lord has tested them amazingly and really done... 00:01:57.21\00:02:01.35 They've done a lot of changes in their life. 00:02:02.55\00:02:04.22 So we recorded a show with them a few months ago 00:02:04.22\00:02:06.62 that was going to be about the health work 00:02:06.62\00:02:09.76 that they're doing, the healthy lifestyle work 00:02:09.76\00:02:12.59 that they're doing with their old friends 00:02:12.59\00:02:14.83 and this new project. 00:02:14.83\00:02:17.20 And then what's happened between that show 00:02:17.20\00:02:19.90 and now is so amazing. 00:02:19.90\00:02:22.90 Some miracles have happened that we said, 00:02:22.90\00:02:24.64 "Okay, this has to be its own show." 00:02:24.64\00:02:26.88 - Right, so we took the part about this new project 00:02:26.88\00:02:30.68 out of the other show. 00:02:30.68\00:02:32.15 And that will only be focused on the health ministry 00:02:32.15\00:02:34.52 that they're doing. - [Jon] Correct. 00:02:34.52\00:02:35.82 - And then this one is about this new project, 00:02:35.82\00:02:39.19 which we keep talking about as the new type of project. 00:02:39.19\00:02:42.96 - Yes, yes. 00:02:42.96\00:02:43.79 - Now we wanna talk really briefly 00:02:44.89\00:02:47.00 about another faith project 00:02:47.00\00:02:48.70 that God seems to be leading toward. 00:02:48.70\00:02:52.20 And part of it's because Indonesia 00:02:52.20\00:02:55.14 is a land made of islands. 00:02:55.14\00:02:57.31 And so there's a tool that can get you from one island 00:02:57.31\00:03:00.71 to the next much more quickly, and that is an airplane. 00:03:00.71\00:03:04.81 - Yeah. - Yeah. 00:03:04.81\00:03:06.21 - So can you share a little bit about this dream 00:03:06.21\00:03:08.32 or whatever? (Ramon laughs) 00:03:08.32\00:03:11.15 I mean, (indistinct chatters) 00:03:11.15\00:03:13.46 It seems like God's leading that way. 00:03:13.46\00:03:15.09 I mean, I know it's not funded yet or anything like that. 00:03:15.09\00:03:17.83 And the health center isn't either. 00:03:17.83\00:03:19.76 So that's why it's like faith project after faith project. 00:03:19.76\00:03:23.23 And that's the lifestyle that God has led you in but-- 00:03:23.23\00:03:26.07 - This is nothing actually new, you know, 00:03:26.07\00:03:28.67 we've had this television on the satellite 00:03:28.67\00:03:31.17 for the past 10 years and a half now and then-- 00:03:31.17\00:03:33.27 - 10 years, six or seven months. 00:03:33.27\00:03:35.44 - Yeah, 10 years and seven months. 00:03:35.44\00:03:37.18 And then as soon as we started 00:03:37.18\00:03:39.88 to broadcast in the satellite, we're getting signal, we're.. 00:03:39.88\00:03:43.82 The signal is reaching all parts of Indonesia. 00:03:43.82\00:03:46.89 Right, the footprint we call it, 00:03:46.89\00:03:48.86 it's just as big as America, the continent. 00:03:48.86\00:03:51.76 - But the island is 17-- - Yeah, but 17,000 island, 00:03:51.76\00:03:55.00 500 and something-- - 500, 8000, island. 00:03:55.00\00:03:57.30 - And there's just so many people that are responding 00:03:57.30\00:04:00.64 from places that we haven't even heard of. 00:04:00.64\00:04:03.17 You know, where is this? 00:04:03.17\00:04:04.11 Where are you calling from? 00:04:04.11\00:04:05.37 - Yeah, what Island, what-- - What area? 00:04:05.37\00:04:07.38 Oh, okay, and then we'll look at the map, you know, 00:04:07.38\00:04:10.35 and then they're asking us to, 00:04:10.35\00:04:12.01 "Well, do you have any teachers or Bible worker 00:04:12.01\00:04:14.78 you can send us or nurse or can you send us books?" 00:04:14.78\00:04:18.09 You know, some Muslim ask for books even Bibles. 00:04:18.09\00:04:22.09 And then we send them Bible, we send them books. 00:04:22.09\00:04:24.49 What do I read? 00:04:24.49\00:04:25.43 What do I do? 00:04:25.43\00:04:26.59 - We-- - They need mentorship. 00:04:26.59\00:04:28.80 - Yeah, there's so many different needs 00:04:28.80\00:04:31.57 in different parts of island. 00:04:31.57\00:04:32.83 We cannot serve every single one of them. 00:04:32.83\00:04:34.54 But you know, one of the good, effective ways 00:04:34.54\00:04:37.34 to reach out to them is aviation. 00:04:37.34\00:04:39.41 So very early in this TV ministry, 00:04:39.41\00:04:43.14 we knew we're gonna have aviation somewhere down the 00:04:43.14\00:04:47.15 line, even though it's already been 10 years and no, 00:04:47.15\00:04:49.32 I'm a pilot, I am the pilo... 00:04:49.32\00:04:50.75 I became the pilot, but still without wings, you know, 00:04:50.75\00:04:53.89 but God is going to provide, I think sometime soon, 00:04:53.89\00:04:57.09 you know, before Jesus comes, we're getting invitations 00:04:57.09\00:05:00.53 to reach out the television viewers, there's a... 00:05:00.53\00:05:05.47 For instance, we're planning to reach out 00:05:07.47\00:05:08.97 to this to two destinations, one in the slightly West, 00:05:08.97\00:05:12.67 one is in the East part of where we are, and then once... 00:05:12.67\00:05:16.44 140, a 140 one miles West, 00:05:16.44\00:05:20.42 and then the other one is 170 miles East. 00:05:20.42\00:05:22.98 That's not that far really, but with a car, 00:05:24.12\00:05:27.12 this is like 16 hours and 18 hours to get there. 00:05:27.12\00:05:30.99 It's ridiculous, but with airplane they you can get there 00:05:30.99\00:05:33.29 in an hour and a half or two hours. 00:05:33.29\00:05:35.20 And then we can drop off the health worker 00:05:36.36\00:05:38.70 or a Bible worker, depending on the needs, you know, 00:05:38.70\00:05:41.10 we can quickly develop, you know, make frequent visits, 00:05:41.10\00:05:44.41 you know, drop them off and pick them up 00:05:44.41\00:05:46.34 and then install different programs. 00:05:46.34\00:05:47.84 They know we care for them, 00:05:47.84\00:05:50.85 and that's how you're gonna make effective evangelism. 00:05:50.85\00:05:55.85 You know, and this is really the faith project. 00:05:57.25\00:06:00.62 It's really gonna cost a lot of money, 00:06:00.62\00:06:01.86 but, you know, we were--- 00:06:01.86\00:06:03.32 - Yeah, because, you know, one time we got in invitation 00:06:03.32\00:06:06.33 in Kalimantan, Borneo and then-- 00:06:06.33\00:06:08.20 - [Ramon] Oh yeah. 00:06:08.20\00:06:09.43 - You know, I remember to reach to that place, 00:06:09.43\00:06:11.07 it took us like how many hours? 00:06:11.07\00:06:12.87 - That was about 150 miles inland from the Coastal City. 00:06:12.87\00:06:17.87 It took us 20 close to 24 hours to get there. 00:06:19.07\00:06:21.11 - And then we use-- - We drove. 00:06:21.11\00:06:23.45 - We drove by car. - And then the tire broke 00:06:23.45\00:06:26.38 or the tire-- (chuckles) 00:06:26.38\00:06:27.65 - When we visit the, you know, that point 00:06:27.65\00:06:29.82 and we met one a pastor, old pastor, you know, 00:06:29.82\00:06:34.82 you can see the old pastor, you know, serving in the-- 00:06:36.26\00:06:38.09 - Yeah, he was serving six or seven churches or something. 00:06:38.09\00:06:40.26 - Yeah, and the pastor came because, you know, he just like, 00:06:40.26\00:06:43.63 you know, he just want to meet us, and he's like, 00:06:43.63\00:06:45.83 "Wow, I'm so happy to see you in person. 00:06:45.83\00:06:47.84 You know, I'm really blessed to see 00:06:47.84\00:06:49.67 because we watched your television." 00:06:49.67\00:06:51.87 And I was like, "Wow, he's so old and he's so tired." 00:06:51.87\00:06:55.88 - (indistinct) motorcycle-- - (indistinct), 00:06:55.88\00:06:58.48 when I see his motorcycle and his motorcycle is very old, 00:06:58.48\00:07:03.49 you can name it, it's very old, like a, wow. 00:07:04.69\00:07:08.26 And he drive like more than 20 hours just only visit me 00:07:08.26\00:07:13.26 to want to see me and my husband in person. 00:07:14.46\00:07:17.13 And I asked him, "Can you explain, you know, your road, 00:07:17.13\00:07:20.40 your way to go here?" 00:07:20.40\00:07:21.84 Yeah, I need to (speaking in foreign language) 00:07:21.84\00:07:24.17 - (speaking in foreign language) 00:07:24.17\00:07:25.67 It's just (indistinct) the big river is crossing-- 00:07:25.67\00:07:27.18 - I need to cross in the big river. 00:07:27.18\00:07:28.78 - One town after another, 00:07:28.78\00:07:30.45 village after village. - And then I go, 00:07:30.45\00:07:31.58 I was like, Wow! 00:07:31.58\00:07:33.05 You know, and then when we came to that place, you know, 00:07:33.05\00:07:36.82 somebody come to us and said like, 00:07:36.82\00:07:38.79 "Hey, you know, before this place is--" 00:07:38.79\00:07:42.02 - Back in the early 80s - Early 80s, 00:07:42.02\00:07:43.66 this is Adventist village right? 00:07:43.66\00:07:45.16 - This whole village used to be Seventh Day Adventists. 00:07:45.16\00:07:47.60 (indistinct) How come they're not having this anymore? 00:07:48.96\00:07:51.80 Well, because there's a new church coming 00:07:51.80\00:07:53.07 and then just kind of recruit them one by one. 00:07:53.07\00:07:55.94 And then, that your church stopped coming here. 00:07:55.94\00:07:58.77 What are you talking about? 00:07:58.77\00:08:00.34 Yeah, back in the 80s, there is an airplane going here 00:08:00.34\00:08:02.44 like few times every month, you know, by American pilot. 00:08:03.91\00:08:06.48 So it used to be funded, you know, 00:08:07.65\00:08:09.72 the aviation program was funded from this Coastal City 00:08:09.72\00:08:13.66 to that area frequently. 00:08:13.66\00:08:17.13 And then after that stop, there's no more service. 00:08:17.13\00:08:21.16 You know, people kind of forgot after a few years, 00:08:21.16\00:08:23.37 and then the generation sort of have no connections anymore 00:08:23.37\00:08:25.97 with the church. 00:08:25.97\00:08:27.04 - They even show us the airstrip. 00:08:27.04\00:08:28.94 - And then I was taken to the area 00:08:28.94\00:08:30.44 where they used to have this airstrip built by our church. 00:08:30.44\00:08:33.74 It's not even airstrip anymore, just like soccer field, 00:08:33.74\00:08:36.64 you know, one after another houses, and I'm like, 00:08:36.64\00:08:38.38 "Oh, they kinda broke my heart." 00:08:38.38\00:08:40.45 You know, I knew that God, 00:08:40.45\00:08:42.35 you have to re-install this program for us 00:08:42.35\00:08:44.02 to reach out to them again, 00:08:44.02\00:08:45.75 because they know we're in television 00:08:45.75\00:08:47.59 and there's not one place like this. 00:08:47.59\00:08:48.52 There's so many different places 00:08:48.52\00:08:49.92 that are asking us the same thing. 00:08:49.92\00:08:51.19 We remember you, we know you from long time ago, 00:08:51.19\00:08:55.20 come back to see us, we give you like acres of land 00:08:55.20\00:08:57.77 for you to land your airplanes, (indistinct). 00:08:57.77\00:09:00.10 - You know, like we know like Indonesian is a lot of island, 00:09:01.57\00:09:04.87 like 70, 1700-- - 17,508. 00:09:04.87\00:09:09.21 - 17, 508.(all chuckles) 00:09:09.21\00:09:13.98 - I was like, I said like, you know, we always, you know, 00:09:13.98\00:09:17.89 like we go to state and then we can drive, 00:09:17.89\00:09:21.06 to go to the other, you know, state right? 00:09:21.06\00:09:22.56 - Yeah. - [Natalie] Yeah. 00:09:22.56\00:09:23.59 To how many states this summer? 00:09:23.59\00:09:25.46 - [Ramon & Mandy] 25 states. - In America? (chuckles) 00:09:25.46\00:09:27.86 - In America, but in Indonesia is impossible 00:09:27.86\00:09:30.57 for us to bring car. 00:09:30.57\00:09:32.10 - Yeah, no, it's island. - Just no, its impossible, 00:09:32.10\00:09:34.67 its an island. - [Ramon] Yeah, you know. 00:09:34.67\00:09:36.14 - You just so, you cannot swim to go to the other island, 00:09:36.14\00:09:38.44 you know, and the God always-- 00:09:38.44\00:09:39.91 - Not even ferries or boats? - Yeah, not everything 00:09:39.91\00:09:42.51 is connected to ferries. - Yeah, takes a long time. 00:09:42.51\00:09:43.98 - Even got all those trees whispered to us like, 00:09:43.98\00:09:46.25 "You need to do something, you need to do something." 00:09:46.25\00:09:48.45 And then we treat our viewers as our family, 00:09:48.45\00:09:53.12 they are very connect to us. 00:09:53.12\00:09:54.66 They just like, "Hey, can you give the name for my children, 00:09:54.66\00:09:57.63 for my daughter? 00:09:57.63\00:09:58.59 - [Ramon] Yeah. - They did... 00:09:58.59\00:09:59.79 They just do it, not just only that, 00:09:59.79\00:10:01.26 "Hey, I need something for even, you know, my (laughs) 00:10:01.26\00:10:05.43 - We got a recent call from a television viewer. 00:10:06.84\00:10:08.10 "I got a problem, so nobody can help me, 00:10:08.10\00:10:10.84 I've spent so much money to go see different doctors." 00:10:10.84\00:10:12.87 What is the problem? 00:10:12.87\00:10:14.48 "I have a strong body odor." (all chuckles) 00:10:14.48\00:10:17.11 We sort of smiled. 00:10:17.11\00:10:18.58 Body odor and then, 00:10:18.58\00:10:19.85 Well, (indistinct) try one solution. 00:10:19.85\00:10:22.75 "What is it?" 00:10:22.75\00:10:23.69 Baking soda. 00:10:23.69\00:10:24.52 Really? 00:10:25.75\00:10:27.16 We can buy that in a local market 00:10:27.16\00:10:28.76 and like cheap too like, yeah, go buy it, try it. 00:10:28.76\00:10:31.06 And then the lady tried it and in like few days after that, 00:10:31.06\00:10:34.56 she came back on the phone, like, 00:10:34.56\00:10:35.83 "Whoa, wow, that's such an easy solution." 00:10:35.83\00:10:39.30 - You know, that is how we-- - Simple. 00:10:40.50\00:10:43.91 - Very simple. 00:10:43.91\00:10:45.17 - That is how we very close with our viewers. 00:10:45.17\00:10:47.41 You know, they always give us like stories, you know, 00:10:47.41\00:10:50.51 like they just want to talk to us and like many, like, 00:10:50.51\00:10:54.45 you know, there's many times we visit them. 00:10:54.45\00:10:58.42 - Yeah, we see them in person. 00:10:58.42\00:10:59.39 - We sleep in their house. 00:10:59.39\00:11:01.59 They love to see us because, you know, 00:11:01.59\00:11:03.86 they love to see people in the television right, and when... 00:11:03.86\00:11:06.90 And they're just like, 00:11:06.90\00:11:08.06 "Wow, they're just people in television." 00:11:08.06\00:11:09.56 And especially when we came to their house, 00:11:09.56\00:11:12.10 they are really appreciate that. 00:11:12.10\00:11:14.37 And that just only that they see something... 00:11:14.37\00:11:16.27 Message, like very firm message when they see us, 00:11:16.27\00:11:20.61 wake up in the morning, they just like, 00:11:20.61\00:11:22.74 "Wow, your movement is very firm. (Ramon chuckles) 00:11:22.74\00:11:26.38 Why, what is (indistinct)? 00:11:26.38\00:11:28.05 I can, you know, you know, 00:11:28.05\00:11:29.82 what is the strong message that you bring to us? 00:11:29.82\00:11:32.15 What is that? (Ramon chuckles) 00:11:32.15\00:11:33.59 I can see, what did he say? - And they were, 00:11:33.59\00:11:36.39 "You wake up in the morning with the same look, 00:11:36.39\00:11:38.66 the way you slept at night." 00:11:38.66\00:11:40.40 It's something like that. 00:11:40.40\00:11:41.93 - And then that is only that the way I see you 00:11:41.93\00:11:43.97 in the television, it's same here. 00:11:43.97\00:11:46.23 - Yeah, there is simple-- - [Mandy] Simple. 00:11:46.23\00:11:47.90 - Simplicity, you know, that's some message to them. 00:11:47.90\00:11:49.60 - And that some message. 00:11:49.60\00:11:50.77 - Many of them appreciate, you know. 00:11:50.77\00:11:52.34 - So that's why we really want to have some aviation 00:11:52.34\00:11:54.31 like not us, if you ask us as a human, of course, 00:11:54.31\00:11:58.35 this is like, "Lord, this is a big burden already." 00:11:58.35\00:12:00.78 You know, you give out the other big burden, 00:12:00.78\00:12:03.05 but God always (indistinct), you know, you need to do this. 00:12:03.05\00:12:06.59 They need to see you, you know, you need to do this. 00:12:06.59\00:12:08.52 And so that's why we just say, you know, like, 00:12:08.52\00:12:13.53 "Okay Lord" 00:12:14.10\00:12:15.03 But not firm like, "Not okay!" 00:12:15.03\00:12:16.67 You know, "Okay, we're gonna do that." 00:12:16.67\00:12:19.33 So that's why we-- 00:12:19.33\00:12:20.60 - Yes, you open the door (indistinct) go forward. 00:12:20.60\00:12:23.71 - Joshua 1:3 it says, 00:12:23.71\00:12:25.87 "Wherever the soul of thy foot shall tread upon 00:12:25.87\00:12:28.61 that have already given unto you." 00:12:28.61\00:12:30.38 - You know. - [Shandy] True. 00:12:30.38\00:12:31.55 - It's just a matter of you willing 00:12:31.55\00:12:33.68 to make step there because that God 00:12:33.68\00:12:36.79 has already given unto us, you know, 00:12:36.79\00:12:39.49 that's his promise. - To that-- 00:12:39.49\00:12:41.16 - Even though we prefer not to go cycling, 00:12:41.16\00:12:43.99 we prefer not to fly anywhere, 00:12:43.99\00:12:45.93 we prefer to be home really because we're tired, you know. 00:12:45.93\00:12:48.93 But when God says, "Go, if you wanna go, 00:12:50.10\00:12:52.93 I'm going to provide." 00:12:52.93\00:12:54.30 (Jon chuckles) 00:12:56.07\00:12:58.41 - If you're willing to go, I'm gonna provide. 00:12:58.41\00:13:00.91 - Yeah, yeah. 00:13:00.91\00:13:02.84 And just a really quick statistic on 00:13:02.84\00:13:06.61 why airplanes are so powerful in Indonesia. 00:13:06.61\00:13:11.12 The country is about the size of the United States, 00:13:11.12\00:13:14.16 geographically distance wise, 00:13:14.16\00:13:15.99 even though the United States is all connected by land. 00:13:15.99\00:13:18.73 Whereas Indonesia is all islands, 00:13:18.73\00:13:21.56 but as far as actual distance of roads, 00:13:21.56\00:13:24.87 Indonesia is about 5% of the roads 00:13:24.87\00:13:27.24 that we have here in America. 00:13:27.24\00:13:28.74 So you can imagine trying to get anywhere in America, 00:13:28.74\00:13:30.91 if we only had 5% of the roads, that we have. 00:13:30.91\00:13:34.08 - Yeah, it wouldn't work well. (both chuckles) 00:13:34.08\00:13:36.34 - And I've been in Indonesia, I mean, you talk about, 00:13:36.34\00:13:38.61 "Hey, let's go a 100 kilometers, you know, 00:13:38.61\00:13:40.18 60 miles down the road." 00:13:40.18\00:13:41.68 That could take several hours, you know, and we... 00:13:41.68\00:13:46.02 Here we think 60 miles-- - [Natalie] Depending on. 00:13:46.02\00:13:47.22 - So that's, you know, less than an hour, 00:13:47.22\00:13:50.29 but over there, it's not like that, and so-- 00:13:50.29\00:13:52.93 - Well, because it's not just, is there a road? 00:13:52.93\00:13:55.16 It's what is the quality of the road 00:13:55.16\00:13:57.30 and where is the road located? 00:13:57.30\00:13:58.93 Like how much traffic will there be on that road? 00:13:58.93\00:14:01.17 - Exactly. 00:14:01.17\00:14:02.10 - Because there are fewer roads. 00:14:02.10\00:14:03.57 There is a lot more traffic on some of those roads. 00:14:03.57\00:14:04.97 - Right, and Indonesia is one of the highly... 00:14:04.97\00:14:07.41 Most highly densely populated areas on the planet. 00:14:07.41\00:14:11.71 And so you get a lot of traffic, a lot of people. 00:14:11.71\00:14:14.02 - So we recorded this show and then we were talking about it 00:14:14.02\00:14:17.39 and praying about it together 00:14:17.39\00:14:20.32 before they went back to Indonesia. 00:14:20.32\00:14:22.42 - Right, 'cause I was very unsure about this 00:14:22.42\00:14:24.43 because I know that airplane programs 00:14:24.43\00:14:27.23 are not really cheap and not only that-- 00:14:27.23\00:14:30.60 - And they're usually underfunded. 00:14:30.60\00:14:33.03 - And, just the difficulty of running one, 00:14:33.03\00:14:37.24 the paperwork, you know, all the challenges, I mean, 00:14:37.24\00:14:42.24 and so it's like, I was unsure, but here's a guy 00:14:43.45\00:14:46.18 that has a lot of business experience, 00:14:46.18\00:14:49.68 and he's Indonesian and there's this need, 00:14:49.68\00:14:53.25 I mean, that story of the entire town 00:14:53.25\00:14:55.59 that used to be Adventist, that the runway that 00:14:55.59\00:14:58.66 our church built is being used for a soccer field and-- 00:14:58.66\00:15:01.96 - And housing now on-- - It's like, okay. 00:15:01.96\00:15:03.10 - It won't be a runway anymore. 00:15:03.10\00:15:05.13 - Yeah, it's like, "Okay, God, I can't see the way clear 00:15:05.13\00:15:08.60 to get a program going, but I... 00:15:08.60\00:15:11.07 But maybe you do, and if we just move forward, 00:15:11.07\00:15:14.18 according to the need, just follow where the need is, 00:15:14.18\00:15:17.71 maybe you'll open the door." 00:15:17.71\00:15:19.75 And so I says, "Okay, well, go back. 00:15:19.75\00:15:21.98 You know, when you go back to Indonesia, look for a plane, 00:15:21.98\00:15:24.72 see what God does." 00:15:24.72\00:15:25.95 You know, 'cause we were thinking, 00:15:25.95\00:15:27.19 should we send one from America to Indonesia? 00:15:27.19\00:15:29.79 Because you've got to import tax, you've got shipping costs, 00:15:29.79\00:15:32.26 you've got to disassemble the airplane in America, 00:15:32.26\00:15:34.73 send it over there and reassemble it. 00:15:34.73\00:15:37.50 And then you've got to get it registered. 00:15:37.50\00:15:39.07 And how are you gonna register it? 00:15:39.07\00:15:40.34 You know what, we just... 00:15:40.34\00:15:41.50 Just a lot of questions, a lot of unknowns 00:15:41.50\00:15:43.74 and a lot of expense, you know? 00:15:44.71\00:15:46.68 So we're looking at different airplanes 00:15:46.68\00:15:48.98 for sale here, just wasn't really working out. 00:15:48.98\00:15:52.35 And so then they went back home to Indonesia 00:15:52.35\00:15:55.78 and then I went on a trip to Thailand. 00:15:55.78\00:15:57.69 So--(chuckles) 00:15:58.75\00:16:00.46 - So we have a picture? - Yeah. 00:16:00.46\00:16:02.06 - From your hotel in Thailand. 00:16:02.06\00:16:03.32 - Very exciting photo. (both chuckles) 00:16:03.32\00:16:05.43 I spent 10 days right here, (both chuckles) 00:16:05.43\00:16:08.93 a lot of praying, and a lot of... 00:16:08.93\00:16:11.10 I had my walking trail, you know, 00:16:11.10\00:16:14.60 12 steps this way and 12 steps that way. 00:16:14.60\00:16:17.17 It was back and forth for 10 days straight. 00:16:17.17\00:16:19.31 - Right, it's hard to get enough exercise that way, 00:16:19.31\00:16:22.48 but you try. (both chuckles) 00:16:22.48\00:16:24.38 - But while I was there, I got a picture from Ramon. 00:16:24.38\00:16:28.08 He says, "Hey, I found an airplane." 00:16:28.08\00:16:29.95 And I'm like, "Well, that's not what I was thinking about." 00:16:31.35\00:16:35.09 'Cause I'm thinking, you know, big Tundra tires, 00:16:35.09\00:16:37.33 really remote stuff. 00:16:37.33\00:16:38.79 And this is not a remote type of airplane. 00:16:38.79\00:16:41.43 This isn't like a primitive airstrip type of airplane. 00:16:41.43\00:16:46.07 And I'm like, "I'm not sure this is the right thing." 00:16:46.07\00:16:48.84 And he looked into it some more. 00:16:48.84\00:16:51.97 He says, "You know, it's a really good price." 00:16:51.97\00:16:54.94 It was selling for $62,000, 00:16:54.94\00:16:57.65 and brand new, this is $120,000, $130,000. 00:16:57.65\00:17:02.65 Only had 150 hours on it. 00:17:03.52\00:17:05.49 - That's really, really very little. 00:17:05.49\00:17:07.92 - That's very little. 00:17:07.92\00:17:09.19 I mean, you don't have to rebuild the engine 00:17:09.19\00:17:10.99 until like 2000 hours, so that's... 00:17:10.99\00:17:14.73 And you know, that's, I mean, that's almost brand new. 00:17:14.73\00:17:17.97 And the guy that bought this had bought it from the factory, 00:17:17.97\00:17:22.57 shipped it from America and had the factory people come 00:17:22.57\00:17:25.94 and reassemble it in Indonesia. 00:17:25.94\00:17:27.91 - Wow! 00:17:27.91\00:17:29.04 - And then he registered it in Indonesia. 00:17:29.04\00:17:31.71 So the total cost of this airplane originally for that 00:17:31.71\00:17:34.78 guy, for the seller was $180,000. 00:17:34.78\00:17:37.25 - Wow, so 62,000 was a really cheap asking price. 00:17:37.25\00:17:40.99 - Yeah, that's a third. - [Natalie] Wow! 00:17:40.99\00:17:42.86 - And then the miracle happened. 00:17:42.86\00:17:44.29 I was praying about it, Lord, you know, really, 00:17:44.29\00:17:46.90 I mean like, "Lord, do you really want this happen?" 00:17:46.90\00:17:50.00 And just praying, you know, when you've got nothing to do, 00:17:50.00\00:17:53.30 then you can pray, (chuckles) you got time to pray. 00:17:53.30\00:17:56.40 And, then you guys called me. 00:17:56.40\00:17:59.64 - Right, because we got a cheque here in the office 00:17:59.64\00:18:03.08 that was designated for any project anywhere, 00:18:03.08\00:18:06.78 and it was $50,000. 00:18:06.78\00:18:07.72 - Yeah, but it was for pro... 00:18:07.72\00:18:09.28 For a mission project. - Right, right 00:18:09.28\00:18:10.89 - Yes, and so it was how much? - It was 50,000. 00:18:10.89\00:18:14.82 - [Jon] 50,000, we get a lot of those don't we? 00:18:14.82\00:18:16.73 - Nope. (Jon chuckles) 00:18:16.73\00:18:17.99 - So this was a very unusual experience. 00:18:17.99\00:18:20.56 And very unusual timing. - Right, right. 00:18:20.56\00:18:24.80 - And so I told Ramon, I says, 00:18:24.80\00:18:28.14 "Okay, why don't you go and offer him 50,000, 00:18:28.14\00:18:32.67 and if the guy accepts it, we know God's in this." 00:18:32.67\00:18:36.98 - Right, that would definitely be a good sign. 00:18:36.98\00:18:40.68 - Yeah, 'cause he's already selling it 00:18:40.68\00:18:42.12 for a third of what he put into it. 00:18:42.12\00:18:44.65 And so Ramon went there and test fluid, 00:18:44.65\00:18:48.46 loved the plane and offered him 50,000. 00:18:48.46\00:18:51.96 And the guy took it. 00:18:53.09\00:18:54.73 Yeah, he says, "But I need the money right away." 00:18:54.73\00:18:56.80 Because his business due to COVID was going down, 00:18:56.80\00:19:00.40 and so he needed the cash right away. 00:19:00.40\00:19:02.00 And so we sent the cash and what happened 00:19:02.00\00:19:05.81 to the wire transfer? - It didn't get there. 00:19:05.81\00:19:10.45 - It went into-- - Yeah. 00:19:10.45\00:19:12.58 One of them had the name on the account incorrect-- 00:19:12.58\00:19:17.59 - By the bank. - By the bank, yeah. 00:19:18.69\00:19:20.29 Somebody made a typo, and so then once that was corrected 00:19:20.29\00:19:24.89 and the correction was sent through, 00:19:24.89\00:19:26.33 then that one actually went into the bank account, 00:19:26.33\00:19:28.06 but it went like a week later. 00:19:28.06\00:19:29.66 So he was like, the money was not getting there. 00:19:31.07\00:19:33.50 It was nowhere, they couldn't figure out why it was stalled. 00:19:33.50\00:19:36.74 The other one was the name wasn't right, 00:19:36.74\00:19:39.54 and everything but it did not go to the account. 00:19:39.54\00:19:42.44 And so we finally ended up sending two more wire transfers 00:19:42.44\00:19:46.72 from a different account, a totally different way, 00:19:46.72\00:19:49.98 and those ones got there, but late. 00:19:49.98\00:19:52.25 - Yeah, so it was like that he made the offer on a Monday. 00:19:52.25\00:19:57.26 We thought that we'd be able to pay for on a Wednesday, 00:19:58.69\00:20:00.53 the following Wednesday-- 00:20:00.53\00:20:03.13 - The money still wasn't still wasn't there. 00:20:04.27\00:20:05.20 - Still wasn't there, so-- 00:20:05.20\00:20:06.37 - So we sent it again the second time. 00:20:06.37\00:20:07.87 - So we sent it again, and I remember that Friday, 00:20:07.87\00:20:09.17 just like going after God, just like, Lord-- 00:20:09.17\00:20:12.34 - Because the owner had said, "I need the money on Friday." 00:20:12.34\00:20:16.48 - Right, that Friday... 00:20:16.48\00:20:18.25 Yeah, that second Friday, he says, that's the deadline. 00:20:18.25\00:20:21.88 If the money's not here-- 00:20:21.88\00:20:23.49 - That's it. - Deal is off. 00:20:23.49\00:20:24.45 - I'm taking the other person. 00:20:24.45\00:20:25.95 - 'Cause somebody else had offered more money by then. 00:20:25.95\00:20:28.19 And so we were... 00:20:28.19\00:20:29.42 I was just like really begging God, I was like, 00:20:29.42\00:20:31.29 Lord, it's my fault, I did it wrong. 00:20:31.29\00:20:33.03 And we should have done-- - If it's your will, 00:20:33.03\00:20:34.30 or if it's, you know-- 00:20:34.30\00:20:35.56 - Oh Lord if just please don't let us lose it, 00:20:35.56\00:20:37.03 'cause we know Satan's angry about this. 00:20:37.03\00:20:40.27 You know, and he likes to control all the money matters. 00:20:40.27\00:20:43.20 And so he, you know, he's fighting this thing hard. 00:20:43.20\00:20:46.64 And so we just like prayed really hard, 00:20:46.64\00:20:48.71 and Ramon's friend who is also friend with the seller, 00:20:48.71\00:20:52.85 came to, you know, stood up for Ramon and say, 00:20:55.02\00:20:57.59 "Hey, please, don't let this-- - Just wait a little longer. 00:20:57.59\00:21:00.19 - Yeah, just wait a little longer. 00:21:00.19\00:21:02.19 And praise God, the money came in that Sunday. 00:21:02.19\00:21:04.39 - Right, so Monday he was able to pay the owner? 00:21:04.39\00:21:07.50 - Yes. 00:21:07.50\00:21:08.63 - And become the owner of the airplane. 00:21:08.63\00:21:11.63 - Right (Jon laughs) 00:21:11.63\00:21:14.40 - Yeah, it was really frustrating, 00:21:14.40\00:21:17.11 like where did the money go? 00:21:17.11\00:21:18.61 Like, that's a lot of money to have just disappeared. 00:21:18.61\00:21:22.44 - Thank God that we've been able to find it. 00:21:22.44\00:21:24.45 So we haven't lost anything. 00:21:24.45\00:21:26.55 The other money's part of it's come back, 00:21:26.55\00:21:28.58 and the other one's over there getting used. 00:21:28.58\00:21:30.99 But it's safe, so it's just-- 00:21:30.99\00:21:33.86 - It was one of those things where I was like, 00:21:33.86\00:21:35.36 "Okay Lord, this is your money. 00:21:35.36\00:21:37.59 Anybody that's touching it is messing with you." 00:21:37.59\00:21:40.00 (Jon laughs) So it's like, you know, 00:21:40.00\00:21:42.26 that's the good thing that really... 00:21:42.26\00:21:43.57 About realizing that God owns everything 00:21:43.57\00:21:46.43 because we can trust him with his money, 00:21:46.43\00:21:48.20 even if we don't know where it is. 00:21:48.20\00:21:49.74 And it kind of freaks us out, 00:21:49.74\00:21:51.61 but we know that nothing can happen to it. 00:21:51.61\00:21:54.34 That's outside of his full plan. 00:21:54.34\00:21:57.25 - Yes, and the other beautiful thing is that, 00:21:57.25\00:21:59.51 through this, we've... 00:21:59.51\00:22:00.82 I've really come to love our bank. 00:22:00.82\00:22:02.98 The people in there, they just love what we're doing. 00:22:02.98\00:22:05.45 They just really try to bend over backwards to help. 00:22:05.45\00:22:08.69 - Yeah, they pray. 00:22:08.69\00:22:09.62 They pray for our projects. 00:22:09.62\00:22:11.29 They're excited when something good is happening. 00:22:11.29\00:22:14.83 I mean, it's really-- - It's very encouraging. 00:22:14.83\00:22:16.97 And every time we go in there, 00:22:16.97\00:22:18.13 we come out feeling, you know-- 00:22:18.13\00:22:20.54 - [Natalie] Encouraged. - Yeah. 00:22:20.54\00:22:22.10 And that's a blessing, in this world. 00:22:22.10\00:22:24.47 - So we have a few more pictures that the airplane. 00:22:26.37\00:22:28.54 - Yeah, and here they're washing it. 00:22:28.54\00:22:30.41 These are the first pictures that I saw, these three. 00:22:30.41\00:22:32.55 It's the kind of a smaller airplane. 00:22:32.55\00:22:34.58 This is a video of him flying. 00:22:34.58\00:22:36.48 And then here's Ramon getting time, now he's... 00:22:36.48\00:22:38.82 Ramon had about a 100 hours of flight time, he.... 00:22:38.82\00:22:41.12 So he already was a pilot, had his pilot's license. 00:22:41.12\00:22:43.99 So he's getting checked out that he needs another 20 00:22:43.99\00:22:46.66 or so hours in this plane before he can, you know, 00:22:46.66\00:22:49.66 be let loose-- 00:22:49.66\00:22:50.97 - Be certified to fly it by himself. 00:22:50.97\00:22:52.50 - Right, now those of you that are into airplanes, 00:22:52.50\00:22:54.80 you'll notice that it has a glass cockpit. 00:22:54.80\00:22:57.17 That's a big deal. 00:22:57.17\00:22:58.64 Instead of all the little analog instruments, 00:22:58.64\00:23:00.58 it's got like the big digital instruments. 00:23:00.58\00:23:03.41 So it's very modern, and so this is really important 00:23:03.41\00:23:07.55 because when I was growing up, when I was two months old, 00:23:07.55\00:23:10.79 my parents went to New Guinea and I went there with them, 00:23:10.79\00:23:14.39 - Good thing? (Jon chuckles) 00:23:16.02\00:23:17.59 - And my dad has always been an airplane fanatic, 00:23:17.59\00:23:21.23 loved airplanes. 00:23:21.23\00:23:22.70 If he could have figured out how to have Sabbath off, 00:23:22.70\00:23:24.87 he would have been an airline pilot. 00:23:24.87\00:23:26.67 But he was a doctor instead. 00:23:26.67\00:23:28.57 And while he was a missionary in New Guinea, he got to fly. 00:23:28.57\00:23:32.57 And because the main pilot was injured, 00:23:32.57\00:23:35.44 and so they asked my dad to do some flying. 00:23:35.44\00:23:38.35 And there was a time when he was flying and he could not see 00:23:38.35\00:23:42.28 any runways 'cause he was up above the clouds 00:23:42.28\00:23:45.32 and he couldn't see anything down below. 00:23:45.32\00:23:48.19 And this is obviously before they had instruments, 00:23:48.19\00:23:50.46 they couldn't see the weather patterns coming in. 00:23:50.46\00:23:52.63 They couldn't see how to get around 00:23:52.63\00:23:55.10 and where the runways, they couldn't land. 00:23:55.10\00:23:57.40 - And New Guinea, there are mountains. 00:23:57.40\00:23:59.53 - Very tall mountains. 00:23:59.53\00:24:01.57 And so it's very dangerous. 00:24:01.57\00:24:03.61 And so having this kind of instrumentation, 00:24:03.61\00:24:05.87 I think is really important for them. 00:24:05.87\00:24:07.94 - You should finish that story. 00:24:07.94\00:24:09.88 - Oh, so-- - He landed safely. 00:24:09.88\00:24:12.01 - Yeah, my mom didn't know where he was. 00:24:12.01\00:24:14.22 He prayed really hard and he saw a hole in the clouds 00:24:14.22\00:24:17.69 and he just went right down through those clouds. 00:24:17.69\00:24:21.06 The ground control was yelling at him, give us an update, 00:24:21.06\00:24:25.63 and he's like, he just took his headphones off. 00:24:25.63\00:24:27.96 'Cause he, you know, he just had to focus on landing. 00:24:27.96\00:24:30.47 - He didn't have any update, he didn't know where he was. 00:24:30.47\00:24:32.63 - Right, and so he got in, he landed, 00:24:32.63\00:24:35.37 and then of course he couldn't take off 00:24:35.37\00:24:37.07 because everything just socked in. 00:24:37.07\00:24:38.51 So it was a miracle that he landed 00:24:38.51\00:24:40.64 and then he was locked down there for three days. 00:24:40.64\00:24:44.48 Of course my mom didn't know, couldn't get word from him 00:24:44.48\00:24:48.78 if he was okay or not. 00:24:48.78\00:24:50.22 And so she's up there in the Highlands, 00:24:50.22\00:24:51.99 in her mission house with two kids, 00:24:51.99\00:24:54.86 not knowing where her husband was, for three days. 00:24:54.86\00:24:58.66 And so-- - A lot of praying. 00:24:58.66\00:25:00.86 (both chuckles) 00:25:00.86\00:25:02.23 So, now there's something special about 00:25:02.23\00:25:04.30 different kinds of gas with airplanes as well. 00:25:04.30\00:25:06.40 And this one, yeah, 00:25:06.40\00:25:07.90 I think you need to explain that as well. 00:25:07.90\00:25:09.34 - Okay, so most airplanes take aviation fuel, 00:25:09.34\00:25:13.07 which is better fuel, but it's very expensive. 00:25:13.07\00:25:16.18 And so he was specifically looking for an airplane 00:25:16.18\00:25:18.61 that would take normal car fuel, auto fuel. 00:25:18.61\00:25:22.18 It's about a third, the price. - Wow. 00:25:22.18\00:25:24.35 - And so it gets good gas mileage and it only takes, 00:25:24.35\00:25:27.56 you know, normal car gasoline, and so it's very-- 00:25:27.56\00:25:30.89 - Which is very important? - Yes, (both chuckles) very, 00:25:30.89\00:25:34.20 inexpensive (indistinct) 00:25:34.20\00:25:35.40 - Inexpensive in smaller Airports. 00:25:35.40\00:25:36.33 - Yeah, yeah, to find the gas, 00:25:36.33\00:25:37.90 but also just the cost of operation. 00:25:37.90\00:25:40.30 That's one of the least expensive airplanes 00:25:40.30\00:25:42.94 that you could find to operate on a per hour basis. 00:25:42.94\00:25:47.08 - Wow. - So, very exciting. 00:25:47.08\00:25:48.38 - Which is a God thing too? - Absolutely. 00:25:48.38\00:25:50.35 God's, I mean, just God's been leading 00:25:50.35\00:25:52.41 so clearly in each step of the way, 00:25:52.41\00:25:55.35 and we know that God's gonna continue to lead 00:25:55.35\00:25:58.22 because he has a plan and there's going 00:25:58.22\00:26:00.36 to be people in heaven because of this. 00:26:00.36\00:26:03.43 New places opened, as Ramon was saying, you know, 00:26:03.43\00:26:07.00 taking Bible workers and putting them in places 00:26:07.00\00:26:09.10 where there's no evidence present and in Indonesia, okay, 00:26:09.10\00:26:13.10 just to get an idea of the unreached people, 00:26:13.10\00:26:15.30 groups in Indonesia, there's like 1500 languages 00:26:15.30\00:26:19.84 in which there's no (indistinct) work whatsoever. 00:26:21.14\00:26:23.31 - Wow. - 1500 languages. 00:26:23.31\00:26:26.11 The statistic I've been told is that 00:26:27.32\00:26:30.25 if we continue entering into new languages 00:26:30.25\00:26:33.09 at the rate that we're currently entering into, 00:26:33.09\00:26:36.02 it'll take 600 years before Jesus can come. 00:26:36.02\00:26:40.00 And so-- 00:26:41.46\00:26:42.66 - Every nation, kindred tongue, and people. 00:26:42.66\00:26:44.57 - Exactly, and so we've, I mean, this has been our prayer 00:26:44.57\00:26:47.97 this whole last year is like, 00:26:47.97\00:26:49.54 "Lord, you gotta take over because we gotta go faster." 00:26:49.54\00:26:54.54 We've got to take this God, we gotta... 00:26:55.68\00:26:57.21 God's got to find new ways to open up new territory. 00:26:57.21\00:27:01.65 And-- 00:27:01.65\00:27:02.58 - And he's got a light that fire 00:27:02.58\00:27:04.22 that burns fast and furious across the country sides. 00:27:04.22\00:27:07.99 - Right, right, we're also praying for 00:27:07.99\00:27:10.46 a ultra light airplane, (chuckles) that will help 00:27:10.46\00:27:14.73 with this project as well. 00:27:14.73\00:27:16.16 We have one in Thailand, 00:27:16.16\00:27:17.80 but we're trying to get it shipped down to Indonesia to-- 00:27:17.80\00:27:20.77 - Which just needs a lot of prayer too. 00:27:20.77\00:27:22.17 - Yes, (Natalie chuckles) 00:27:22.17\00:27:23.41 because Satan has been fighting that hard. 00:27:23.41\00:27:25.64 He just doesn't want to lose any of his territory. 00:27:27.08\00:27:29.81 But God's in charge. 00:27:29.81\00:27:31.48 Yes, and God's gonna-- 00:27:31.48\00:27:34.15 - And God will do a lot more miracles. 00:27:34.15\00:27:36.48 - And Matthew 24:14, will be fulfilled. 00:27:36.48\00:27:40.22 - Right, that's true. - Yeah. 00:27:40.22\00:27:42.89 - Well, I would like to invite you, 00:27:42.89\00:27:44.39 if you would like to be a part of this miracle story, 00:27:44.39\00:27:47.00 you can contact us at Jesus for Asia, P.O.Box 1221, 00:27:47.00\00:27:51.13 Collegedale, Tennessee, 37315. 00:27:51.13\00:27:55.24 Call us at (423) 413-7321. 00:27:55.24\00:27:59.47 Or visit our website at jesus4asia.org. 00:27:59.47\00:28:03.04 May God richly bless you until we see you next time 00:28:03.04\00:28:06.28 on Jesus for Asia Now. 00:28:06.28\00:28:08.55 (bright soft music) 00:28:08.55\00:28:11.55