(orchestral music)
00:00:00.73\00:00:03.50
- Hello and welcome
to Jesus for Asia Now.
00:00:21.98\00:00:24.39
I'm Natalie Wood and
we have special guests
00:00:24.39\00:00:26.22
in the studio
with me here today.
00:00:26.22\00:00:28.19
We have Ramon and
Shandy Tengkano, welcome.
00:00:28.19\00:00:31.79
It's been a while
since we've seen you here.
00:00:31.79\00:00:34.10
- Yup, yup. - It's been a while.
00:00:34.10\00:00:34.96
- So tell me again,
00:00:34.96\00:00:36.53
because I know we have
some viewers that may be new
00:00:36.53\00:00:39.60
and haven't seen your story
before, where are you from?
00:00:39.60\00:00:42.54
- We're from Indonesia.
00:00:42.54\00:00:44.31
- Okay.
00:00:44.31\00:00:45.27
- It's in Southeast Asia.
00:00:45.27\00:00:47.04
- So what do
you do in Indonesia?
00:00:47.04\00:00:48.98
- We have a television ministry.
00:00:48.98\00:00:51.21
It's a satellite television.
00:00:51.21\00:00:53.38
It's a first
satellite television
00:00:53.38\00:00:55.32
that broadcast seven Adventist
messages, in Indonesia.
00:00:55.32\00:00:58.92
- So Indonesia is big
like American continent
00:01:00.19\00:01:04.39
to Maine and Wash--
00:01:04.39\00:01:06.80
- From Maine to Washington.
00:01:06.80\00:01:08.23
- Washington and then, but
we have like 60% water, so...
00:01:08.23\00:01:12.67
- 17 thousand islands.
00:01:13.94\00:01:15.17
- 17,508 thousand island.
00:01:15.17\00:01:19.14
- Yeah.
00:01:19.14\00:01:20.44
(Ramon & Shandy laughing)
00:01:20.44\00:01:21.91
- 17,508, yeah. - Right?
00:01:21.91\00:01:23.81
- There we go. - There we go.
00:01:23.81\00:01:25.51
(all laughing)
00:01:25.51\00:01:26.75
- So there's a lot
of water there then.
00:01:26.75\00:01:28.72
- [Ramon & Shandy In
Unison] Yes, lots of islands.
00:01:28.72\00:01:31.05
- Lots of
languages and cultures.
00:01:31.05\00:01:32.59
- And then Indonesia is a
big Muslim population too.
00:01:32.59\00:01:37.53
- Okay.
00:01:37.99\00:01:39.23
- And then we have a
satellite broadcasting
00:01:39.23\00:01:40.53
Three Angels
message, 24 hours, seven days.
00:01:40.53\00:01:43.87
So for us--
00:01:43.87\00:01:45.43
- For the passed
10 years and a half.
00:01:45.43\00:01:46.84
- Yeah, for us,
this is a miracle
00:01:46.84\00:01:49.40
because we have a burdens
00:01:49.40\00:01:51.91
to give opportunity
for the other family,
00:01:51.91\00:01:54.81
for the other,
what we call that?
00:01:55.98\00:01:58.35
- Other groups of people.
00:01:58.35\00:01:59.71
- Other group of people--
00:01:59.71\00:02:00.72
- Unreached groups of people
00:02:00.72\00:02:02.12
- To hear about the hope.
00:02:02.12\00:02:04.42
- Right, so what language
is your satellite television?
00:02:04.42\00:02:08.59
- Because Indonesia
have a national language,
00:02:08.59\00:02:10.63
so we use Bahasa language.
00:02:10.63\00:02:12.89
Even though Indonesia
have like 700 local dialect,
00:02:12.89\00:02:17.67
but we thank God because
00:02:17.67\00:02:19.27
Indonesia have one
in national language
00:02:19.27\00:02:21.44
that everybody can understand,
00:02:21.44\00:02:23.87
even people in the interior
places, they can understand.
00:02:23.87\00:02:28.18
- Even the remote
places, they can, okay.
00:02:28.18\00:02:31.08
Well, that's good.
00:02:31.08\00:02:32.78
(all laughing)
00:02:32.78\00:02:34.28
So do you have any
stories that you'd like to share
00:02:34.28\00:02:36.69
of how the Lord has guided
you in starting this ministry?
00:02:36.69\00:02:41.36
- Well--
00:02:42.29\00:02:43.79
- I mean, we may have shared
these stories in the past,
00:02:43.79\00:02:44.73
but it's good for us to remember
00:02:44.73\00:02:47.23
how the Lord
has led in the past.
00:02:47.23\00:02:49.30
- We started this
broadcast, March 2011,
00:02:49.30\00:02:53.87
when Jesus for Asia, when
you guys came to Indonesia.
00:02:56.17\00:02:59.51
- [Shandy] Faith Camp.
00:02:59.51\00:03:00.78
- Faith Camp event
that you hold annually
00:03:00.78\00:03:04.15
and that happened to be
in Indonesia that early 2011
00:03:05.61\00:03:10.09
and we just sort of
felt impressed by the Lord
00:03:10.09\00:03:15.09
to take on the challenge.
00:03:15.96\00:03:17.53
When you were making the call to
00:03:17.53\00:03:21.36
invite those who are
interested to make a television.
00:03:21.36\00:03:24.93
We had no idea about
anything about television.
00:03:24.93\00:03:27.54
I had no interest, honestly,
00:03:27.54\00:03:29.24
but there's something about
the challenge that moved me
00:03:29.24\00:03:33.51
to experiment with the
Lord, that working with him,
00:03:33.51\00:03:37.58
to experiment what he's
all about, what he can do.
00:03:37.58\00:03:40.68
So we took the challenge
and March 2011, until now,
00:03:40.68\00:03:45.35
we're still on the satellite.
00:03:45.35\00:03:47.26
- Oh, we remember also that,
why God put us this television
00:03:47.26\00:03:51.53
in our family, in our ministry,
00:03:51.53\00:03:55.43
because I remember one
time that at the Faith Camp,
00:03:55.43\00:03:59.30
I was so drive to have,
00:03:59.30\00:04:02.17
want to have the
faith experience.
00:04:02.17\00:04:06.24
So and then, God
brought us to Papua and--
00:04:06.24\00:04:10.25
- In the Eastern island.
00:04:11.45\00:04:12.71
- In the Eastern
island and that is, I being--
00:04:12.71\00:04:17.25
I have
opportunity to see the needs
00:04:17.25\00:04:20.29
and then I remember I've
been praying in the hills,
00:04:20.29\00:04:24.26
that God, let me
serve, let me opportunity.
00:04:24.26\00:04:28.06
I want to serve my people
and I want to serve my country.
00:04:29.50\00:04:32.23
Give me Indonesia for me, God,
00:04:32.23\00:04:33.80
if you're willing, so I know--
00:04:33.80\00:04:35.87
- That was about a month before
00:04:35.87\00:04:36.81
we start to be on the satellite.
00:04:36.81\00:04:39.11
- And then I remember when,
00:04:39.11\00:04:40.58
and then suddenly, when
God give us this television,
00:04:40.58\00:04:43.21
I was like, wow,
Ramon. I remember my prayer.
00:04:43.21\00:04:46.92
I asked God if you are willing,
00:04:46.92\00:04:49.52
I want to serve my
people and give me Indonesia.
00:04:49.52\00:04:52.32
- Yes. - And yeah, here we are.
00:04:52.32\00:04:53.59
- He says okay.
00:04:53.59\00:04:54.72
You don't know what you're
asking for, but here we go.
00:04:56.16\00:04:58.09
- I tell people be
careful about your prayer
00:04:58.09\00:05:00.40
because he will
give it to you for sure.
00:05:00.40\00:05:02.66
- Okay so, you were starting
this television network.
00:05:02.66\00:05:05.67
You didn't know what
you were getting into.
00:05:05.67\00:05:07.27
- Nope. - No.
00:05:07.27\00:05:08.74
- Was it super easy,
were there any challenges,
00:05:08.74\00:05:11.27
any miracles you
want to share with us?
00:05:11.27\00:05:13.34
- Well, there are
so many funny stories
00:05:13.34\00:05:15.41
how we started the television
that it just convinced us
00:05:15.41\00:05:20.42
that God is not
expecting you to be perfect
00:05:21.75\00:05:23.75
for you to be able
to shine out his love,
00:05:23.75\00:05:26.69
to spread the gospel.
00:05:26.69\00:05:28.22
Actually one
television viewer came to us,
00:05:28.22\00:05:30.49
because our television
was really so unprepared
00:05:30.49\00:05:34.63
and we were just
only broadcasting
00:05:34.63\00:05:37.27
nature videos in the beginning
00:05:37.27\00:05:39.00
and then it was
just so unorganized
00:05:39.00\00:05:41.47
that one time we
were broadcasting
00:05:41.47\00:05:44.14
in the middle of a live show,
00:05:44.14\00:05:46.01
all of a sudden
the lights went out
00:05:47.71\00:05:49.84
and then we had this,
well, us on the set we thought
00:05:49.84\00:05:54.22
the whole thing
was disconnected.
00:05:54.22\00:05:56.48
So just screaming and
just this commotion in the set
00:05:56.48\00:06:01.49
that it was still on broadcast
00:06:03.76\00:06:05.93
and then I had a
telephone call from my cousin,
00:06:07.66\00:06:10.30
which is far
away, who was far away,
00:06:10.30\00:06:12.67
reminding us we're still
on air, we're still live.
00:06:12.67\00:06:15.47
It's just, that was
so unprepared we were
00:06:15.47\00:06:18.87
and then it made so
many people actually laugh
00:06:18.87\00:06:21.28
and this one gentleman
00:06:21.28\00:06:22.74
who happened to be on the
same set on the other island,
00:06:22.74\00:06:25.28
he was just so
entertained by the--
00:06:26.41\00:06:28.68
- So he was watching by
happenstance or something?
00:06:28.68\00:06:32.29
- Yeah, yeah,
yeah. - [Natalie] Okay.
00:06:32.29\00:06:33.52
- And then we
were running for, oh,
00:06:33.52\00:06:35.02
turn on the genset, turn on
the lights (speaker mumbling).
00:06:35.02\00:06:36.59
It was all still on
live television and then...
00:06:36.59\00:06:38.99
(Natalie laughing)
00:06:38.99\00:06:39.83
The guy was--
00:06:39.83\00:06:41.06
- The worst nightmare.
00:06:41.06\00:06:42.33
- Yeah, he was
actually watching the television
00:06:42.33\00:06:45.00
and was like, this people
in this television was so,
00:06:45.00\00:06:47.60
either they're
crazy or they're honest
00:06:48.77\00:06:49.74
or they're sincere or what?
00:06:49.74\00:06:51.07
And then the next
day, he kept on watching.
00:06:51.07\00:06:53.78
- [Natalie] Wanted
more entertainment.
00:06:53.78\00:06:55.24
- Yeah, looking for more
opportunity to laugh at us.
00:06:55.24\00:06:59.81
- And then he even
bring the family too.
00:07:01.02\00:07:02.18
- And then he
brought the family.
00:07:02.18\00:07:03.72
- Look at this television,
they are very unprepared.
00:07:03.72\00:07:04.72
- They don't know
what they're doing.
00:07:05.89\00:07:06.69
(Natalie laughing)
00:07:06.69\00:07:08.19
- This people just wasting
money to broadcast something
00:07:08.19\00:07:09.46
that is disorganized
and then he keeps watching,
00:07:09.46\00:07:13.29
but the message is still there.
00:07:13.29\00:07:15.50
When it's
organized, he gets the message
00:07:15.50\00:07:17.87
and then four years
later, he came to the church.
00:07:17.87\00:07:20.60
He became the Seventh-day
Adventist church member until
00:07:20.60\00:07:24.31
now. He brought his
brother and then his family
00:07:24.31\00:07:26.27
and then I finally
met him five years later,
00:07:26.27\00:07:29.98
I went to visit his place
00:07:29.98\00:07:31.48
and then he was telling all
the story about our television
00:07:31.48\00:07:33.95
in front of the church, it
would make everybody laugh.
00:07:33.95\00:07:36.62
(all laughing)
00:07:36.62\00:07:37.72
Oh, that's...
00:07:37.72\00:07:38.82
- Humbling.
00:07:40.39\00:07:41.39
- [Ramon] Yes.
00:07:41.39\00:07:42.36
- And humiliating.
00:07:42.36\00:07:43.79
(Natalie & Shandy laughing)
00:07:43.79\00:07:45.03
- But a blessing
at the same time.
00:07:45.03\00:07:46.53
- Right, right, the guy
can use even our stumbles
00:07:46.53\00:07:49.20
and our unprofessionalness
to glorify his name.
00:07:49.20\00:07:52.53
- Yeah, yeah.
00:07:52.53\00:07:54.04
- (indistinct)
00:07:54.04\00:07:55.50
- He obviously gets the
glory because it was his message
00:07:55.50\00:07:57.51
and it was him
impressing this man.
00:07:57.51\00:08:00.31
- Because both of us, we
don't have a background, right?
00:08:00.31\00:08:02.78
To broadcasting, we
just have the willingness
00:08:02.78\00:08:06.95
because we want to
experience the faith experience.
00:08:06.95\00:08:10.89
So, we just have that,
we don't have anything.
00:08:10.89\00:08:14.59
So, remember that
the faith experience,
00:08:14.59\00:08:17.56
the first faith experience
with the satellite that...
00:08:17.56\00:08:20.83
- We yeah, when the beginning,
00:08:21.73\00:08:23.70
well when we signed up for
the satellite service, we...
00:08:23.70\00:08:27.40
We thought we
could do this on our own.
00:08:29.67\00:08:32.27
Our satellite bill
at the time was $15,000
00:08:32.27\00:08:36.18
and then for the
first year, it was a lot,
00:08:36.18\00:08:38.01
but nothing
compared to commercial TVs,
00:08:38.01\00:08:41.38
but it was already
big for us to start with.
00:08:41.38\00:08:43.72
- Oh yeah.
00:08:43.72\00:08:45.12
- And then the
following year, we--
00:08:45.12\00:08:47.66
I forgot what month it was,
00:08:48.92\00:08:50.46
but within the first year
of our satellite ministry,
00:08:50.46\00:08:54.83
we were faced with a satellite
bill that particular month,
00:08:54.83\00:08:58.00
we were finding out ourselves
00:08:58.00\00:08:59.90
that we had no
money that month to pay
00:08:59.90\00:09:02.70
and then the satellite
company was calling us like,
00:09:02.70\00:09:05.61
whoa, sir, you have
to pay this today, was,
00:09:05.61\00:09:09.41
you missed the deadline.
00:09:09.41\00:09:10.58
I said, yes, I
know, but I'm sorry.
00:09:10.58\00:09:12.88
I can't come up with
the money this, today,
00:09:12.88\00:09:15.88
we don't have the $15,000.
00:09:15.88\00:09:17.49
And then we were
expecting some money,
00:09:18.72\00:09:19.95
I was calling, asking my wife,
00:09:19.95\00:09:21.49
or how do we get this $15,000?
00:09:21.49\00:09:23.76
And then I told
him, I need seven days
00:09:23.76\00:09:26.63
and then he
said, okay, seven days,
00:09:26.63\00:09:28.06
of next Wednesday by
noon, you have to pay,
00:09:28.06\00:09:29.83
otherwise we will
disconnect the service
00:09:29.83\00:09:33.23
and then seven days later,
00:09:33.23\00:09:34.74
we woke up in the
morning that Wednesday, I said,
00:09:34.74\00:09:36.71
well, still no money for $15,000
00:09:36.71\00:09:40.71
and then I had the
idea of going to the office
00:09:40.71\00:09:42.44
and just seeing them in person
asking for more extension.
00:09:42.44\00:09:47.38
And then we got
dressed and we got in the car,
00:09:47.38\00:09:50.32
we started driving
just to see them in person
00:09:50.32\00:09:52.99
because the account
manager is a nice guy otherwise
00:09:52.99\00:09:55.59
and then we were
on the road, we--
00:09:56.76\00:09:58.79
I had a Blackberry that,
we got this email message
00:09:58.79\00:10:02.56
saying that there is some money
00:10:02.56\00:10:05.10
that was sent to our account,
five days prior to that.
00:10:05.10\00:10:10.11
Well, we checked, there
was no money this morning
00:10:12.04\00:10:14.08
and then we were
sitting in traffic
00:10:15.24\00:10:17.08
and then I just pulled over.
00:10:17.08\00:10:18.51
I was gonna call the
bank and then I pull over
00:10:18.51\00:10:21.42
on the side of the road
and then I called the bank.
00:10:21.42\00:10:23.82
Hey, I'm expecting some
money that was sent last Friday,
00:10:23.82\00:10:27.09
it's been four or five days
at least, where's the money now?
00:10:27.09\00:10:31.23
And then the bank
said, you know what sir?
00:10:31.23\00:10:33.13
It just got posted
less than an hour ago,
00:10:33.13\00:10:35.36
so when we were driving,
it was just posted an hour ago
00:10:35.36\00:10:39.90
and then the amount of money,
00:10:39.90\00:10:41.17
oh, it was sent by
somebody from Europe
00:10:41.17\00:10:44.54
that happens to
be a non-Christian,
00:10:44.54\00:10:47.08
not Seventh-day Adventist,
00:10:47.08\00:10:48.44
he probably wasn't a
believer, but he just,
00:10:48.44\00:10:50.61
his father died and
then left him a lot of money
00:10:50.61\00:10:53.31
and then he had
an impression that,
00:10:53.31\00:10:55.45
an idea that he was
gonna support humanitarian
00:10:55.45\00:10:58.49
social work in Asia, somewhere.
00:10:58.49\00:11:01.59
And then he was
searching, searching
00:11:01.59\00:11:03.16
and then he found
us in the internet
00:11:03.16\00:11:05.09
and then fired the
money, exact amount of money,
00:11:05.09\00:11:07.96
whether we needed, $15,000.
00:11:07.96\00:11:09.86
- Wow.
00:11:09.86\00:11:11.40
- So, it kept us going.
00:11:11.40\00:11:14.87
We made the
payment and until now,
00:11:14.87\00:11:17.57
we have stories like that,
00:11:17.57\00:11:19.44
but we haven't been taken
down by the satellite company.
00:11:19.44\00:11:22.81
- Wow.
00:11:22.81\00:11:23.65
- You know, it just
kept us going because
00:11:24.81\00:11:27.72
for sure, when
we asked the Lord,
00:11:27.72\00:11:29.58
Lord, we want to
have that faith story
00:11:29.58\00:11:32.22
and then he just
give it to you right away
00:11:32.22\00:11:34.92
and then that
faith stories keep us--
00:11:34.92\00:11:37.53
- Yeah, it keeps us going.
00:11:38.99\00:11:40.50
- Keep us going to see
the miracles after miracles,
00:11:40.50\00:11:42.10
because God says, if you believe
00:11:42.10\00:11:44.53
you will see the glory of God.
00:11:44.53\00:11:46.13
And then many of us, we
just being stopped because
00:11:46.13\00:11:50.07
of the crisis that
happens in our life.
00:11:50.07\00:11:53.41
But, we just keep
on going in because
00:11:53.41\00:11:55.58
in the future, you're
gonna see the miracles
00:11:56.81\00:11:58.95
and you gonna
feel that this is--
00:11:58.95\00:12:02.92
- You not get discouraged.
00:12:02.92\00:12:04.35
- Of course, I mean, I
don't say about discourage,
00:12:04.35\00:12:06.89
but I say but the true
reward is you're gonna see
00:12:06.89\00:12:11.89
that we are
serving the real God.
00:12:12.99\00:12:15.73
- Mm hmm, you can see God work.
00:12:15.73\00:12:17.80
- Yes, yes. - Yes.
00:12:17.80\00:12:18.73
- Wow, wow, praise the Lord.
00:12:18.73\00:12:21.04
(all laughing)
00:12:21.04\00:12:22.40
Yeah, I'm sure you
have a lot of stories
00:12:22.40\00:12:24.37
where God has come
through at the last minute,
00:12:24.37\00:12:26.61
why does he do that,
have you figured it out?
00:12:26.61\00:12:28.91
We haven't figured it out.
00:12:28.91\00:12:30.88
- Ah, I guess he just
want to give us, surprise.
00:12:30.88\00:12:33.85
(all laughing)
00:12:33.85\00:12:35.38
- I think he wants
us to be convinced that
00:12:35.38\00:12:37.72
even though we don't get to
see things in the beginning.
00:12:37.72\00:12:40.52
What he promises
will always come true.
00:12:41.66\00:12:45.56
- Yeah.
00:12:45.56\00:12:47.10
- Or maybe because like us,
I don't know people, but us,
00:12:47.10\00:12:49.90
we are, our background
is very materialistic person
00:12:49.90\00:12:53.54
and then maybe he understood
do that to us to see that,
00:12:53.54\00:12:57.54
see, that's not you, but
it's me, maybe it's like that.
00:12:57.54\00:13:00.54
- Right, so he
can get more glory.
00:13:00.54\00:13:02.88
- Yup.
00:13:02.88\00:13:04.05
- And we can be
reminded of our dependence.
00:13:04.05\00:13:06.01
- Yeah, yeah. - Yes.
00:13:06.01\00:13:07.22
- That is the
needs, because for us,
00:13:07.22\00:13:10.02
the need is not
how God can use us,
00:13:10.02\00:13:13.25
but the need is
through that miracle story,
00:13:13.25\00:13:17.09
our heart can change.
00:13:17.09\00:13:19.46
When we see that,
we know exactly that,
00:13:19.46\00:13:22.03
this is not us Ramon, it's him.
00:13:22.03\00:13:24.83
- Yeah, yeah.
00:13:24.83\00:13:26.20
(Natalie & Ramon laughing)
00:13:26.20\00:13:27.40
- So as far as
satellite and 17,508 islands,
00:13:27.40\00:13:32.27
so what do you see as far
as the reach of the satellite,
00:13:33.74\00:13:36.11
it goes from one end of
the country to the other,
00:13:36.11\00:13:38.65
so in the remote
areas, how's that--
00:13:38.65\00:13:42.02
How does it work
for people out there?
00:13:42.02\00:13:43.72
They have the dishes to
receive it and then they?
00:13:43.72\00:13:46.96
- Yeah so, well when
people have the electricity
00:13:46.96\00:13:51.23
in the places far away,
remote islands, mountains,
00:13:51.23\00:13:54.86
the first thing
they buy is television
00:13:54.86\00:13:56.73
and then they can
just buy a television with,
00:13:58.00\00:13:59.73
there is no
local transmitters or
00:13:59.73\00:14:02.90
they have to buy a
satellite dish with it
00:14:02.90\00:14:05.61
in order for them
to receive any signal
00:14:05.61\00:14:07.38
and then when they
buy the satellite dish,
00:14:07.38\00:14:08.84
that's where we are.
00:14:08.84\00:14:10.65
- Okay.
00:14:10.65\00:14:11.91
- They could see
us and then with that,
00:14:11.91\00:14:12.85
when we took on the satellite,
00:14:12.85\00:14:14.28
we started to see
responses coming in from places
00:14:14.28\00:14:16.42
that are far away, places
that we haven't even heard.
00:14:16.42\00:14:19.09
For one example, we had a
call from one place in Borneo,
00:14:20.62\00:14:25.63
were just in the
big central island.
00:14:27.23\00:14:29.20
That when they see our
television, they said, wow,
00:14:30.57\00:14:33.80
this is Seventh-day
Adventist television.
00:14:33.80\00:14:36.24
We used to be all
Seventh-day Adventist,
00:14:36.24\00:14:38.14
back in the early
80s, the late 70s.
00:14:38.14\00:14:41.21
I'm like, what do you mean?
00:14:41.21\00:14:42.64
Yeah, now that we're
seeing you in the television,
00:14:42.64\00:14:45.31
it's so good because I
know this whole village,
00:14:45.31\00:14:47.62
well, more than a village,
00:14:47.62\00:14:48.85
it's just like a
whole county or something.
00:14:48.85\00:14:51.25
They used to be all
Seventh-day Adventist
00:14:51.25\00:14:52.79
because there's a Seventh-day
Adventist pastor from America
00:14:52.79\00:14:55.89
he used to come here every
00:14:55.89\00:14:57.99
few times of the
month with the airplane
00:14:57.99\00:15:00.66
and I'm like,
wow, there is so sad.
00:15:00.66\00:15:02.83
So then we finally took
a opportunity to go there.
00:15:02.83\00:15:06.90
We landed with the commercial
airplane in a small city
00:15:06.90\00:15:09.57
and then drove down 20
hours to get to where they are.
00:15:09.57\00:15:12.97
The distance is
only like 150 miles
00:15:12.97\00:15:14.98
and then we saw
there is a school
00:15:16.14\00:15:17.65
and then we're talking to
some people and then they said,
00:15:17.65\00:15:19.98
yeah, we used to be all
Seventh-day Adventists here.
00:15:19.98\00:15:21.88
- They show us the...
00:15:21.88\00:15:23.32
- They showed us the
airstrip that used to be used by
00:15:23.32\00:15:28.06
American
missionary landing there.
00:15:29.16\00:15:31.33
- Wow.
00:15:31.33\00:15:32.16
- But because of
the satellite, now--
00:15:33.36\00:15:35.23
- Now with the
satellite, we can reach them.
00:15:35.23\00:15:37.17
Although it's sad to see
00:15:37.17\00:15:38.83
that this airstrip's
not being used as airstrip,
00:15:38.83\00:15:41.50
they build houses and
they put soccer field to play.
00:15:41.50\00:15:45.61
The planes cannot
land there anymore,
00:15:45.61\00:15:47.04
but from a lady that
became Seventh-day Adventist
00:15:47.04\00:15:49.81
through the service of
the American missionary,
00:15:49.81\00:15:52.65
I found out so
many history that,
00:15:52.65\00:15:55.95
that they all
learn about the truth,
00:15:55.95\00:15:58.89
through the the Bible lessons
that were brought to them.
00:15:58.89\00:16:01.96
Now what we're broadcasting
is just a review again.
00:16:03.36\00:16:06.90
- Refreshing course, yeah.
00:16:08.66\00:16:10.67
- Because in Indonesia,
if they have the electricity,
00:16:10.67\00:16:14.20
they buy this television
and then the satellite.
00:16:14.20\00:16:16.84
And not just only one
family can join the television.
00:16:18.24\00:16:21.14
They will invite their family,
00:16:21.14\00:16:23.48
all of the
villagers, the neighbors,
00:16:23.48\00:16:26.25
they can watch like 20 or
30 people inside their house,
00:16:26.25\00:16:29.58
watching television.
00:16:29.58\00:16:31.09
So, that is how they get excited
to see the message because,
00:16:31.09\00:16:36.09
and then that is
the other story also,
00:16:37.26\00:16:38.19
because Indonesia is like,
00:16:38.19\00:16:39.86
we have a lot
of islands and then
00:16:39.86\00:16:41.46
it's just not easy to
reach to the other church
00:16:41.46\00:16:44.97
and then the other church.
00:16:44.97\00:16:46.47
And then, it's
really hard for the pastor
00:16:46.47\00:16:49.37
to works in the rural area,
00:16:49.37\00:16:53.01
because he needs to
go to the other church
00:16:53.01\00:16:55.88
and the other
church is just so far.
00:16:55.88\00:16:57.91
- [Natalie] So far away.
00:16:58.91\00:16:59.85
- So through this television,
00:16:59.85\00:17:01.45
example, like every sabbath
we have the live broadcasting,
00:17:02.88\00:17:05.85
from the morning till
closing, till the afternoon.
00:17:07.22\00:17:11.33
So, they use that
as a church activity
00:17:11.33\00:17:14.66
and then they
love to see us there.
00:17:16.46\00:17:18.20
They just keep on
give us texting message
00:17:18.20\00:17:22.37
and then the story
about this other guy.
00:17:22.37\00:17:26.71
And then the guy
is, this is our viewers
00:17:27.91\00:17:30.48
and then we have
opportunity to visit his CD.
00:17:30.48\00:17:35.02
So you know the family and the
whole family came to visit us
00:17:35.02\00:17:38.55
and then to say thank
you for your television,
00:17:38.55\00:17:41.56
because my son, he needs to
watch your television every day,
00:17:41.56\00:17:46.56
because if one day he
doesn't watch the television,
00:17:48.06\00:17:53.07
he become like so mad
00:17:53.80\00:17:55.30
and then we just like
ask, what is wrong with him?
00:17:55.30\00:17:58.94
- He's mentally challenged.
00:17:58.94\00:17:59.87
- He's mentally challenged
00:17:59.87\00:18:01.41
and then this televisions
really help him a lot,
00:18:01.41\00:18:04.28
because not just only that,
00:18:04.28\00:18:05.75
the story is what, the
one that really gets me.
00:18:05.75\00:18:09.68
You know, we
always see people support,
00:18:09.68\00:18:14.69
to report donation, right?
00:18:15.56\00:18:16.99
And then the television
report donation is just only...
00:18:16.99\00:18:20.23
- Well, a dollar and a half.
00:18:20.23\00:18:22.10
- A dollar and a
half every month.
00:18:22.10\00:18:23.73
- There's a same
amount every month.
00:18:23.73\00:18:25.57
- So, there's the
banks, like every single month,
00:18:25.57\00:18:28.24
like maybe $1 and a
half, every single month.
00:18:28.24\00:18:33.24
And then--
00:18:33.84\00:18:34.64
- And you're going...
00:18:34.64\00:18:35.58
- I'm going, what is this?
00:18:35.58\00:18:36.95
- It was like somebody
intentionally walks to the bank,
00:18:36.95\00:18:39.31
then do cash
deposit into our account.
00:18:39.31\00:18:42.55
- Every single month.
00:18:42.55\00:18:43.75
- [Natalie] With
that little amount.
00:18:43.75\00:18:44.75
- Just that little amount.
00:18:44.75\00:18:45.95
- And I've been
praying like, Lord,
00:18:45.95\00:18:47.46
I really want to see this
person, because who is this?
00:18:47.46\00:18:50.49
Because he is really
to support us, maybe,
00:18:50.49\00:18:55.06
the one that I get, he just
wants to give us the support.
00:18:55.06\00:18:58.50
Like, just keep on
doing, keep on your good word.
00:18:58.50\00:19:01.97
- Just an encouragement.
00:19:01.97\00:19:03.20
- Just encouragement
and then we thank God,
00:19:03.20\00:19:05.31
we came to the city.
00:19:05.31\00:19:06.68
So, the one who
always support us, this guy,
00:19:07.88\00:19:11.31
is the mentally challenged guy.
00:19:12.61\00:19:14.78
He is watching the
television every single time,
00:19:14.78\00:19:18.32
every single day
and then he has that
00:19:18.32\00:19:22.16
commitment that he
wants to support us.
00:19:22.16\00:19:24.39
So he do that, I was like, wow,
I'm crying, Lord, thank you.
00:19:24.39\00:19:28.66
Thank you for give us
opportunity to see the needs,
00:19:28.66\00:19:33.17
to see that something
that the money cannot buy,
00:19:33.17\00:19:36.84
something that
very encouraged us that,
00:19:36.84\00:19:40.38
life is not just
only having money,
00:19:40.38\00:19:43.61
having nice car, a nice house
00:19:44.55\00:19:49.55
and then having the kids
can go to the expensive college
00:19:51.02\00:19:54.12
or anything education, no,
00:19:54.12\00:19:56.46
this is the things
that the money cannot--
00:19:56.46\00:19:59.53
- Rewarding.
00:19:59.53\00:20:00.46
- Yeah, this is rewarding.
00:20:00.46\00:20:01.93
- Right, wow, how sweet?
00:20:01.93\00:20:04.30
- Yeah. - Yeah, yeah.
00:20:04.30\00:20:05.23
- How sweet and so beautiful
00:20:05.23\00:20:06.53
that God's spirit
was speaking to him
00:20:06.53\00:20:09.44
and bringing him
the call and the peace.
00:20:09.44\00:20:12.97
- We're also getting
calls from peoples in the cities
00:20:12.97\00:20:16.48
or even of our previous friends
start to contact us also.
00:20:17.85\00:20:21.52
They know what we're
doing, some of them are curious,
00:20:21.52\00:20:25.02
what are you doing now?
00:20:25.02\00:20:26.62
And I got to television.
00:20:26.62\00:20:27.86
Some of them,
even non-Christians,
00:20:27.86\00:20:30.03
they're checking
the videos that we make.
00:20:30.03\00:20:33.40
Some of them are
really, really blessed,
00:20:33.40\00:20:35.30
you'd be surprised that
even Muslims can be blessed
00:20:35.30\00:20:38.00
with the message
the values that we share
00:20:38.00\00:20:40.57
our life choices that
we have and then, yeah.
00:20:40.57\00:20:43.84
And then that's how we
make reconnection with them,
00:20:43.84\00:20:47.24
the people that we
left from our previous life,
00:20:47.24\00:20:49.68
just to serve the Lord.
00:20:49.68\00:20:51.21
Now we're reconnecting with
them, even through television.
00:20:51.21\00:20:54.62
- Right, nice, nice.
00:20:54.62\00:20:57.52
Well and then the
Lord has started opening up
00:20:57.52\00:20:59.75
another type of ministry to you.
00:20:59.75\00:21:01.22
- [Ramon & Shandy] Yes.
00:21:01.22\00:21:02.46
- He led with some
of those connections
00:21:02.46\00:21:04.96
to start a health cycling
ministry, we want to go there.
00:21:04.96\00:21:09.93
- Because we have a burden.
00:21:11.70\00:21:13.60
It's just not fair if we just
left them, like Lord, left--
00:21:13.60\00:21:18.61
- Yeah, in the beginning
we were just wondering Lord,
00:21:20.04\00:21:21.44
this people that
we left, we feel like,
00:21:21.44\00:21:24.38
how do we reach out to them?
00:21:24.38\00:21:25.78
But how do we
get returned to them,
00:21:27.15\00:21:29.45
it's when we're in the process
of the Lord fixing ourselves,
00:21:29.45\00:21:33.92
we weren't healthy
people before, right?
00:21:33.92\00:21:36.19
I was curious about nutrition,
about healthy lifestyle,
00:21:36.19\00:21:39.19
the teachings that
come from our church,
00:21:39.19\00:21:40.60
I started to learn that again
00:21:40.60\00:21:42.73
and then in the
process of us fixing ourselves,
00:21:42.73\00:21:45.33
we go deep into the
studies of our body functions,
00:21:46.74\00:21:51.57
nutritions and
everything and then,
00:21:52.71\00:21:54.38
and then from that, we
got invited to just share,
00:21:54.38\00:21:58.98
just like a friendly settings,
00:21:58.98\00:22:01.98
one group of people here,
one group of people there,
00:22:01.98\00:22:04.69
one community,
one community there
00:22:04.69\00:22:07.39
and then it leads us slowly.
00:22:07.39\00:22:09.36
It was leading us
slowly to the community
00:22:09.36\00:22:12.39
of active people, of course,
everybody who was active.
00:22:12.39\00:22:15.63
- Exercising.
00:22:15.63\00:22:17.13
- They are curious, they
want to do something about
00:22:17.13\00:22:19.00
their lifestyle and
habits, eating habits.
00:22:19.00\00:22:22.94
So when we finally get to
this group of people who were,
00:22:22.94\00:22:27.88
we're seeing our old
friends that we left,
00:22:27.88\00:22:32.58
at the time it was
like 10 years prior to that
00:22:33.75\00:22:36.52
and then now
they're at 10 years later,
00:22:36.52\00:22:37.95
they are more health
conscious, they're active
00:22:37.95\00:22:40.46
and then they're
asking us so many questions
00:22:40.46\00:22:42.89
and then why don't you
just come cycle with us?
00:22:42.89\00:22:44.99
Come run with us,
we have a triathlon.
00:22:44.99\00:22:47.13
We had a triathlon community,
we had a cycling community.
00:22:48.56\00:22:50.50
We started just doing
things with them again
00:22:50.50\00:22:52.67
and so in the process of the
Lord fixing us and our health,
00:22:54.14\00:22:57.11
God is actually bringing
us back to them to teach them,
00:22:57.11\00:23:00.44
at the same time of
the values that we believe
00:23:00.44\00:23:03.51
and then, yeah,
we were challenged to
00:23:03.51\00:23:07.65
present our lives
this time around to them
00:23:07.65\00:23:10.09
and then when the Lord, I
think the Lord had fixed us.
00:23:11.52\00:23:14.92
And then we feel the burden,
00:23:16.89\00:23:18.09
now it's time for us
to actually be returned
00:23:18.09\00:23:19.36
to the same group
of people that we left.
00:23:19.36\00:23:21.36
- And then this is our, we
call this our faith project,
00:23:21.36\00:23:25.87
why we want to have a center
of influence in our place,
00:23:25.87\00:23:30.01
because we see the needs
through this cycling community,
00:23:30.01\00:23:33.71
through this sport community.
00:23:33.71\00:23:36.24
Over there we see a
lot of high profile society
00:23:37.98\00:23:41.75
that cannot be reached for the--
00:23:41.75\00:23:44.02
Cannot be, reached for the--
00:23:44.02\00:23:47.19
- With the
gospel. - For the gospel.
00:23:47.19\00:23:48.59
- Quite easily, yeah.
00:23:48.59\00:23:50.26
- But , you know, how--
00:23:50.26\00:23:51.53
- Because there's no
way to get into their lives
00:23:51.53\00:23:53.36
or into their circle.
00:23:53.36\00:23:54.76
- Exactly, but because
through the cycling community,
00:23:54.76\00:23:57.73
we just cycling
with them one hour,
00:23:57.73\00:24:00.57
but after that we can
talk for two or three hours
00:24:00.57\00:24:04.41
and then they
really love to have us
00:24:04.41\00:24:06.91
and then they always go to
our countryside place in our--
00:24:06.91\00:24:11.58
- They come and visit you?
00:24:11.58\00:24:13.05
- [Ramon] Yeah, yeah.
- They come and visit us.
00:24:13.05\00:24:14.55
And then they just like,
Shandy, can we stay here?
00:24:14.55\00:24:19.02
They feel comfortable in
our place, I don't know why.
00:24:20.42\00:24:22.79
They just like, every time
we go here, we feel our burden
00:24:22.79\00:24:27.13
is go away,
living and we can see,
00:24:27.13\00:24:31.63
I don't know, this is different.
00:24:31.63\00:24:33.13
Is it the food that you cook?
00:24:33.13\00:24:36.04
We just serve everything that--
00:24:36.04\00:24:38.44
- That's growing around us.
00:24:38.44\00:24:39.27
- That grown around us.
00:24:39.27\00:24:40.54
And then they just
like the food that you cook,
00:24:40.54\00:24:41.81
we see your children,
we see your few everything.
00:24:41.81\00:24:45.15
This is, they call it
(speaking foreign language),
00:24:45.15\00:24:47.92
(speaking foreign language)
is like small heaven and earth,
00:24:47.92\00:24:50.09
because our place is
(speaking foreign language).
00:24:50.09\00:24:52.09
And then they just like--
00:24:53.12\00:24:54.62
And then from that
moment, every time I hear that,
00:24:54.62\00:24:57.23
come on, Shandy, we want to
go there, we want to go there.
00:24:57.23\00:24:59.66
And I would
tell with my husband,
00:24:59.66\00:25:01.06
we need to build
something for them.
00:25:01.06\00:25:03.10
For them to see, like
for us, it's like this,
00:25:03.10\00:25:06.20
we need to go to their level
00:25:07.40\00:25:09.14
because that is something
that they're custom with.
00:25:09.14\00:25:12.17
And then we meet--
00:25:13.44\00:25:14.88
Not for us, not for
us, why I tell this?
00:25:14.88\00:25:18.21
Because until now, we
moved to the countryside.
00:25:18.21\00:25:22.48
I bring my kids, my first
one is eight, now he is 19.
00:25:22.48\00:25:27.49
He never has his own room.
00:25:28.36\00:25:29.96
Because people
thought that, look at you,
00:25:31.16\00:25:32.89
you want to build some...
00:25:32.89\00:25:34.83
(speaking foreign language)
00:25:35.76\00:25:36.77
- Luxurious. - Luxurious!
00:25:36.77\00:25:38.23
But no, this is not luxurious,
because we see the needs.
00:25:38.23\00:25:40.70
They just like,
come on, do it for us
00:25:40.70\00:25:43.74
and then through
this pandemic, especially,
00:25:43.74\00:25:47.01
they see the different.
00:25:47.01\00:25:49.04
One of them just like, you
know, the first time we saw you,
00:25:49.04\00:25:52.25
we are very
curious with your choices,
00:25:52.25\00:25:54.18
because we know who are
you, you are very modern person
00:25:54.18\00:25:58.29
and then, you're a materialistic
person, but your value,
00:25:58.29\00:26:02.79
how your value on
your family, your value--
00:26:02.79\00:26:06.26
Everything is different.
00:26:06.26\00:26:07.83
And then through
this pandemic, now we know
00:26:07.83\00:26:09.93
there is something that
you know that we don't know.
00:26:09.93\00:26:12.37
- Yeah, that's what they say.
00:26:12.37\00:26:14.27
- That's what they say.
00:26:14.27\00:26:15.50
We see you as, you
are preparing something,
00:26:15.50\00:26:18.71
you know something,
this world is gonna happen,
00:26:18.71\00:26:21.51
like, you know
Shandy, you need to tell us.
00:26:21.51\00:26:24.28
So, with them, we
cannot show them the Bible,
00:26:24.28\00:26:26.98
you know, teach, no.
00:26:26.98\00:26:28.55
We just need to sit
with them and then just,
00:26:28.55\00:26:31.89
so they have exposing
to our choices in our life,
00:26:31.89\00:26:36.89
so that's why--
00:26:37.99\00:26:39.46
- And they keep the connection
that way, the friend ship.
00:26:39.46\00:26:40.70
- Yeah, keep the
connection, yeah.
00:26:40.70\00:26:41.86
So, maybe this is
like a crazy project.
00:26:41.86\00:26:46.13
We want to build
the running track,
00:26:46.13\00:26:48.84
we want to build up
swimming, Olympic swimming pool,
00:26:48.84\00:26:52.41
we want to build--
00:26:52.41\00:26:53.64
- Half Olympic. -
Half Olympic, yeah.
00:26:53.64\00:26:55.41
We want to build a
half Olympic, because--
00:26:55.41\00:26:56.81
- So like a health
center, a health retreat,
00:26:56.81\00:26:59.05
lifestyle center, kind of?
00:26:59.05\00:27:00.62
- Yes. - Yeah, yeah.
00:27:00.62\00:27:02.48
- Health retreat, that is
kinda catered to active people
00:27:02.48\00:27:06.86
or we want to make a proper gym,
00:27:06.86\00:27:08.62
because this are
all active people.
00:27:08.62\00:27:10.76
- When we bring
them, exercise with them,
00:27:10.76\00:27:13.43
we have time for them to talk.
00:27:13.43\00:27:14.86
- Right.
00:27:14.86\00:27:16.16
- Yes, great connections.
00:27:16.16\00:27:17.57
- More communication, communion
and friendship building.
00:27:17.57\00:27:20.54
- Yeah, exactly.
00:27:20.54\00:27:22.17
- All right, well I really
appreciate you being here with
00:27:22.17\00:27:23.47
us and sharing, I know
you've got other things
00:27:23.47\00:27:25.14
that we'll be sharing
more on a different show,
00:27:25.14\00:27:28.18
but thank you so much
for being here with us today.
00:27:28.18\00:27:30.91
- Thank you for having us.
00:27:30.91\00:27:32.18
- Thank you,
thank you for having us.
00:27:32.18\00:27:33.65
- I would like to invite you
to be a part of their ministry,
00:27:33.65\00:27:36.05
to participate
by praying for them.
00:27:36.05\00:27:39.09
Obviously, what God is doing,
what he's asking them to do
00:27:39.09\00:27:42.26
is beyond human ability
00:27:42.26\00:27:44.93
and so if you would like to
be a part of their ministry,
00:27:44.93\00:27:47.23
you can contact us at
Jesus for Asia PO box 1221,
00:27:47.23\00:27:52.23
Collegedale, Tennessee 37315.
00:27:53.10\00:27:54.80
Call us at (423) 413-7321
00:27:56.00\00:27:57.27
or visit our
website at jesus4asia.org.
00:27:59.87\00:28:03.38
May God richly bless you,
00:28:03.38\00:28:04.98
until we see you next
time on Jesus for Asia Now.
00:28:04.98\00:28:08.28
(orchestral music)
00:28:08.28\00:28:11.22