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- Hello and welcome to
The Jesus for Asia Now Show.
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Today, we are going to
be interviewing some people
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that are actually
going out as missionaries.
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And this is just to be clear,
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this is during the COVID season.
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And as you know,
for the last year
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we've been in lockdowns,
varying degrees of lockdowns.
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And for the
first time in my life,
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we have not been able to
send missionaries overseas.
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And that's what
we're here today about
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is that there are a
couple, well, a family,
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an entire family
that is willing to go
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during this time of pestilence
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and it costs more and
we're gonna find out what
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it's actually
gonna take for them to go
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but I'm just so excited about
them going, because you know,
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there are souls out
there that are still hungering
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and thirsting for
the light of the Gospel.
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They're hungering and
thirsting for eternal life.
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And to support somebody to go,
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to be able to bring and
export this truth that we know
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and love and value, and
almost take for granted everyday
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to people that
are dying in darkness.
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And that sounds like a cliche
but it's not, it's really not.
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People are literally dying
without the hope of eternal
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life. And so I'd like to
introduce to you my good friends
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brother Lloyd and
Natalie, sister Natalie Howell.
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And you guys have,
where are you going?
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- Oh, we're headed to Cambodia.
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- Okay. And you've
been there already, right?
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- Yeah. We spent
five months back in 2020.
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- Okay. So you were
there, you went there in January
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and you came back in like May?
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- June. - June.
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Okay so you came back in June
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and you were
planning to go back in 2020?
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- Yes. We're planning to
go back later on that year
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but COVID has put
a stopper in that.
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And we're still
here. (all laughing)
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- For awhile that you couldn't
even go into the country.
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- Yeah, they locked down a
lot of the Asian countries,
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Cambodia being one of
them, Thailand and many others.
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Yeah. We just
couldn't get in at all.
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And now there's strict
stipulations in getting in.
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It's not as easy
as it was before.
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Okay. All right. So what do
you have to actually go through?
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What do you have to do
to get into the country?
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- So in Cambodia, they
put on a mandatory quarantine
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that everybody has to
go through for two weeks,
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when you fly in, you'll
have to take a COVID test
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when you get there. - Okay.
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- You have to take a COVID test
before you get on the plane.
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And after the two weeks,
you have to take a COVID test.
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And if anybody on
your plane has COVID,
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then you have to
do another quarantine.
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Everybody's gonna have to go
through that second quarantine.
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So they're requiring that
you come with $2,000 cash,
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each individual, to
cover your quarantine time
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while you're there.
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So for a family
of four that's yeah.
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That's not easy.
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- Yeah. So then do you choose...
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What's quarantine look like,
I mean is it in a hospital?
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- So when you go into
quarantine, when you get there,
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there's gonna be
several different banks there
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to take your money.
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And then they put you on a bus
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and take you to
a hotel somewhere.
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- [Jon] They assign you a hotel.
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- They assign you a hotel.
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Food is delivered to the doors,
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you're not allowed
outside of your room
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for the whole two weeks.
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- You can't leave your room?
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- You cannot leave your room.
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- [Jon] For two weeks.
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- For two weeks.
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- Well that's one
way to get over jet lag.
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(all laughing)
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- No, it's a challenge.
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- Why are you going back then?
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What is the reason
you're going back at this time?
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- Well, there's
so much to be done.
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As you said
earlier, this is a country
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that does not have many
Christians at all in the
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country. - [Jon] Okay.
How many? - Less than 0.1%
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or 0.01% are
Christians much less Adventists.
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And they don't
know who Jesus is.
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They don't know who Christ is.
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They've never heard
of the Gospel or God.
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And they need to know.
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It says the gospel must
be preached to all the world
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before the end will come.
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So we have a job to do.
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- Absolutely.
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- And there we have...
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We're building a
school out there currently.
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And we have some young
people that are in college
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studying to be
teachers for the school.
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And some of them
grew up in the church
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and some of them
came into the church.
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But even their understanding
of the Gospel is nil,
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is little. - Wow.
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- And there's a
lot, they have to learn
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and if we want them
to teach at the school,
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they need a better
understanding of salvation,
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of the love of Christ, of...
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- [Jon] The Bible.
- The Bible period.
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And so we need
to work with them.
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We need to go back
and work with them.
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We want to teach in
their language at this school.
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So we're going to back
also for language study.
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We need to learn the
language to be able to work
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in their language and help
them and work with them better.
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- Right. So you're
talking about a school
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is this a elementary school
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or what kind of
school are you talking about?
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'Cause I know
that's kinda special.
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- Okay. So we're
building a high school.
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But it started from
seventh grade through 12th.
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- Okay.
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- One of the problems is we have
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Adventist
Elementary School there
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but not as many
Adventist High Schools
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and the ones that we
do have teach in English.
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And so a lot of the
students don't know English.
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So they ended up having
to choose between Adventism
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or school.
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- Education. Wow.
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- Right.
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So many of them go
back to school and they'll
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go to school on
Sabbath and leave the church.
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So we want to give them
an opportunity to be taught
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in their language, without
having to worry about Sabbaths
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and be able to
have their Sabbaths off
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and spend the time
with God that they need
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and worship the way we know
that the Bible says we should.
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- Right. One unique
characteristic of your school is
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that it's gonna be
a boarding academy.
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So it's not just a
daily education, but it's,
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you can design an
entire Christian environment, a
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lifestyle. Yeah. That's really
exciting because it's that
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daily interaction and
daily, you know, worships,
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morning and evening worships
and all those kinds of things
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that are really gonna
make an impact in their lives.
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Yeah. Now, today is Friday.
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What day do you leave to go?
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- We leave March
30th, next Tuesday.
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So four days.
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- Four days from
now you're leaving?
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- Yes.
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- How is your stress level?
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- What is that?
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- Yeah, it's really high because
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one, we're trying
to get our house ready
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to be rented out.
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Two our kids went to
Mexico on a mission trip
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and they're coming back today
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so we can do our
COVID test on Sunday.
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- You're leaving Tuesday
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and your kids are
in Mexico right now?
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- Correct. Building churches.
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They built six churches.
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In 10 days.
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- Wow.
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- And half the
workers weren't there.
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And they are so excited.
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- Really?
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- They're so on fire, they
were like, we have to go back.
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I've never seen or
heard them so excited before.
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- Amazing.
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- Amazing, the transformation.
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10 days ago, we were
supposed to leave for Cambodia.
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And I just felt this
like overwhelming burden to
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change the ticket.
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To make it to two weeks later.
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And so I went
ahead and I did that.
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And the day after I changed
the ticket somebody proposed,
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hey, why don't the
girls go to Mexico,
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on this Mexico mission trip?
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And I was like, oh, I
don't think so. You know?
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And they were like, why not?
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So it's like, well,
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we don't have the
finances for them to go
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and you know, like if
you remove money can they go.
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I'm like, man,
that's cutting it close
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'cause the trip ends
two days before we leave.
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And so that was kinda
like, and God gave me a promise.
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It was in the
middle of the night
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after the ticket was bought.
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And I'm like, should
I cancel the tickets?
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Should I not cancel the ticket?
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- Which ticket?
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- The ticket for
them to go to Mexico.
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Sorry, let me back up a second.
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So the ticket was
purchased that same day.
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- For them to go to Mexico.
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- A group of
them to go to Mexico.
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- Not by us.
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- Not by us.
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Yes. So the ticket was
purchased by someone else
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for them to go to Mexico.
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And you know, you have that
24 hour to cancel the ticket.
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And so I'm going
through, should I, should I
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should I not, should I?
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And then all of a sudden
in the middle of the night,
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like, three o'clock in
the morning, the promise came,
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trust in the Lord with all
thine heart and lean not on
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thine own understanding.
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In all thy ways acknowledge Him
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and he shall direct thy path.
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- Right.
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- And I was like, okay.
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I'm gonna hold onto this.
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I'm going to trust you
because it's not making sense.
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I can't tell my family,
"I'm sending my kids to Mexico."
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I can't say anything to anyone.
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So God, I'm going to trust you
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because it's not making sense.
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But I know that,
you know, as teenagers
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they're giving up a lot
to go over there with us.
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And so, you know, my
oldest came and she was like,
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"mom, can I please go?"
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They asked to go.
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And I was like, yes, we'll go.
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And God opened up the door.
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Not only did he
pay for their ticket,
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He paid for their COVID test.
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He paid for the
deposit that they need.
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He just opened up all the doors.
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It was literally one miracle
after another, for them to go.
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And while they were there,
you know, I talked to them,
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they're actually
coming back today.
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And while they
were there, you know,
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my daughter said, you know,
mom, "I've learned what fun is.
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You know, I used to
think fun is when you hang out
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with your friends
and you doing this,
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but fun is really
when you're working for God
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and you're seeing the
results of your labor."
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And I was like,
okay, trust in the Lord
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with all thine
heart and lean not
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on thine own understanding.
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In all thy
ways, acknowledge Him.
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And he shall direct thy path.
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I understand that text.
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It wasn't for me,
they went to Mexico.
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They went to Mexico for them.
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You know, even my youngest,
she was telling my friend
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she was like, "you know,
I asked God to wake me up
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for worship, to
spend time with Him.
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And he's been waking
me up at four o'clock
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but I go to bed so
late and I don't wanna
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tell him to not wake me up."
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You know, but she
gets up faithfully.
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And this is because
she went down there.
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They're like, they're
so on fire in the 10 days
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that they've been gone.
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It's just so amazing.
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Then I really
understood why He wanted me to
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change the tickets 'cause
they would've missed this.
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'Cause the same day we
were going to Cambodia,
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was the same day they were
leaving for Mexico mission.
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- Wow. Oh, I see.
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The original date.
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- God is so amazing.
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- Yeah. And you've been able
to do more work on your house.
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- Yes.
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- So now I got to know
you guys a little bit more
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since the last
time we interviewed
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and you have a very
interesting life story.
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And I'm gonna share
that a little bit because
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I know you guys are shy, but
you were originally on a track
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for a very good salary.
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Very good, comfortable
life here in America.
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You had put her through
college and you'd gotten
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a really good paying
job and was gonna put him
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through college.
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And he was gonna get a
really good paying job.
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And you guys are
gonna be quite wealthy
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but you heard a
call for your kids
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from the Holy Spirit saying,
"you're gonna lose your kids
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if you continue this way."
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And so you gave that up
and moved out into the country.
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I'm simplifying.
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Moved out into the country
and built this small house
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with your own four
hands, well, eight hands,
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including your daughters.
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And you've been
following God's path
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instead of going
the path of the world.
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Is that correct?
Have I summarized it?
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- Yes. - In a nutshell.
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- But even moving to the country
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was not as far as
God wanted you to go.
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- Correct.
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- And it was at a faith
camp a couple of years ago...
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- 2018.
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- That you heard God saying,
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"you need to go
to the mission field
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for the sake of your children."
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Yeah. And so this is the
path that God's chosen for you
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but...
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why don't, I
mean, like, what was it
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I mean, like, you have
already made many sacrifices
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to get to the point where
you can make this sacrifice.
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Do you regret any
of those sacrifices?
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- Absolutely not.
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If I had a regret was
not moving as the Spirit
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prompted me to.
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- Really?
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- As quickly still, you know,
the, the Holy Spirit prompts
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and I dragged my
foot, you know what I mean?
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That's sort of human nature.
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Our human nature
is to like, well maybe
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and you keep procrastinating
or in my case running
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until you realize
you can't outrun God.
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- [Jon] Wow.
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And He just stopped you
in the track and, you know,
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He'll do whatever it
takes to get your attention.
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And He used the
children a second time
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to get my attention.
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- So, now that you are
getting ready to launch again,
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you are launching,
not just getting ready
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but you are launching.
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- Correct.
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- You just sense God's peace?
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- Absolutely. Absolutely.
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- And you sense His
presence as He confirmed
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your calling in any
specific, you know, like,
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tangible ways that
you can look back and say,
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"we know God is doing this."
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- Well. There's a lot of,
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I would say little things,
but there's some big things too,
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you know, the Lord has
done so much for us, you know?
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I think what we
have to realize is
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when you decide to follow God,
it doesn't always make sense.
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- Yes (laughing)
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- You know when reading
in Patriarchs and Prophets,
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Abraham, he couldn't
explain why he was leaving
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to his relatives and
friends back in Ur, you know,
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they just wouldn't understand.
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- Yeah.
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- He couldn't explain
to his wife why he had to
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take Isaac to go sacrifice
with no, we don't know what
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God has planned.
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- You haven't got
that call yet though?
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- No, praise the
Lord. (all laughing)
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- You know, there's a book
called 'The Insanity of God.'
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You know, a lot of times
what we would think is insane.
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We don't think...
It doesn't make sense.
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It's why would you do that?
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Your family might be
against you, you know,
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your friends, even the ones
you thought would be supportive.
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All of a sudden change.
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And you're like, and
then you start second guessing
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sometimes, you're like,
00:15:46.94\00:15:48.14
"Lord is this really
what you want me to do?"
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And then he just shows up
in ways you can't explain.
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And He does something
miraculous then saying,
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"yeah this is what he
wants me to do." (laughing)
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- But you gotta be aware.
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You gotta be looking for
that. For that kind of thing.
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I mean, it can
happen and you don't notice
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but you have to, like,
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be watching to
see what God does.
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- Yeah. And you know,
what He does is in the midst
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of the storm,
He gives you peace.
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So with the confusion and
everything going on around,
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He gives you peace, you know,
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'cause going back to
Cambodia, for us was, you know,
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I was stressed, you know
when I think of the task ahead.
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And I remember I said,
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"I am not doing
anything to raise any money.
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I don't have the energy.
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I don't have the, to put
anything into raising funds."
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And when I took
the time to calculate
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and see how much
we need, I was like,
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"God this is in your hands."
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Because I'm not doing it.
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- That's impossible.
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- Yeah. And yeah.
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And in less than two
months all the funds came in
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and I did absolutely
nothing. It was all God.
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- You prayed?
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- Yes, I prayed and I was
like, this is you and yup.
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- That was what
you needed to do.
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- Absolutely.
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- Yeah. And God took over.
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- Yeah. And I think,
you know, and not I think
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but I know that God
allows these things to happen
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to show you
can't take any credit
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and say, "oh yeah, I raised
this much money to go back."
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No, this is, He raised the money
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for us to finish
the work for Him.
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- Praise the Lord.
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- Yeah and something else that's
so amazing about the Lord,
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you know, He always throws
these little tests in there,
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you know so?
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So, yes we raised
the money to go back.
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So we're like,
okay, Lord, you did this.
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Okay. So we know
we're going back, you know?
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And like you said, we
built our house with our hands.
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It wasn't finished.
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Well, the Lord helped
us get some money together
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to get it finished.
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And now the house
looks a whole lot better
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than it did before and
we're like, man, you know,
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the Lord let us
finish our house.
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Doesn't He want us to stay
here and live in for awhile?
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You know?
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And there's, like, all
these little things going on
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and we're like.
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- It's a little harder to leave.
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- Yeah and people and
it'd make it harder to leave.
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It would seemingly
make it harder to leave.
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But then when you realize
it wasn't this without God
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then we need to
be working for Him.
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He's the one that's blessing us.
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So we need to work for Him and
do whatever He asks us to do.
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- So the blessings that we
receive can be kind of like,
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a covenant?
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You're entering into
this covenant, it's like,
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Lord you did this for us.
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Then, you know, I
give you the praise
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and I give you access to our
lives to do your will knowing
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that if He's done this
once he can do it again.
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- Exactly.
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- Yeah. I felt
like it was a test.
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Like, you know,
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I'm gonna provide
you the funds to go back
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and then as a
bonus, I'm gonna do this.
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Are you still gonna be
committed to doing the original?
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You know, and so for me, that's
what I had to think about.
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Well, he provided
this first and you know,
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the kids are now like,
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"all this is done
and all this is done."
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- You've been
dreaming about those things?
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- Absolutely.
Absolutely. You know,
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And the one thing that I find,
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that I keep going back to was
He gave up everything for me.
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So this is nothing
really at the end of the day.
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And you know two years ago
00:19:09.34\00:19:11.78
when we were at
Faith Camp, Jim was there
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and he kept saying, "we're
not giving up, we're upgrading."
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And so I don't know
what I'm upgrading to
00:19:20.59\00:19:21.82
but that's where, you
know, I just trust that,
00:19:21.82\00:19:24.56
whatever it is
that I'm giving up,
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He has something
better in store for me.
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And if not on this
earth, in the earth to come,
00:19:28.96\00:19:31.97
definitely will
be a upgrade and so,
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yeah, it's hard. But
at the end of the day,
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He gave up so much for
me without thinking twice.
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- Right. Exactly.
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- And that's it.
00:19:44.61\00:19:45.81
- Yeah. I praise
God, you know, because
00:19:45.81\00:19:47.68
He went to the cross for
us, but He's not living there.
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- Correct. Amen.
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- He's not still there.
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He's in heaven.
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And so we might go
through difficulties
00:19:56.22\00:19:58.59
but this life is so
short, especially compared
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to the billions of years
we're gonna live in heaven.
00:20:01.80\00:20:04.60
So man, the investment
that we can make in this life
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towards that
life, that's very smart.
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That's good.
00:20:11.21\00:20:12.47
So it's good
future planning, you know?
00:20:12.47\00:20:15.14
- So I have
another question though,
00:20:16.28\00:20:17.78
and I'm sure our viewers
are asking the same question.
00:20:17.78\00:20:20.22
Isn't it dangerous to travel
during this time of pestilence?
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- When you say
dangerous, what do you mean?
00:20:26.55\00:20:27.92
- Well, like,
you could get sick.
00:20:27.92\00:20:29.86
- Isn't it always
dangerous to travel?
00:20:29.86\00:20:31.59
(all laughing)
00:20:31.59\00:20:34.10
- You know, I mean, for
us, like, when we travel,
00:20:34.10\00:20:36.93
we have to wear a
mask the entire time.
00:20:36.93\00:20:39.47
So we have 35 hour trip.
00:20:39.47\00:20:42.50
- Wow. And you
enjoy flying, right?
00:20:42.50\00:20:44.51
- I detest flying.
00:20:44.51\00:20:45.57
I don't like flying.
00:20:47.38\00:20:49.04
And one of my daughters
do not like flying either
00:20:49.04\00:20:52.08
but anyway, you know.
00:20:52.08\00:20:53.35
- See, I love
flying. I get on the plane,
00:20:53.35\00:20:55.02
somebody else is
driving, you know.
00:20:55.02\00:20:57.05
- No, that's too much
faith and trust in somebody
00:20:57.05\00:20:59.25
like, no. I like
to be on the road
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but the longest leg
of the journey is, like,
00:21:01.76\00:21:04.69
17 hours and 50 minutes.
00:21:04.69\00:21:06.76
- In a plane.
00:21:06.76\00:21:07.76
17 hours and 15?
00:21:07.76\00:21:08.96
- Five zero.
00:21:08.96\00:21:09.96
- So, 18 hour flight? - Yes.
00:21:09.96\00:21:11.87
- And that's, you know,
00:21:11.87\00:21:13.34
and the entire time we
have to have our mask on.
00:21:13.34\00:21:15.77
The only time you're allowed
to take it off is to eat.
00:21:15.77\00:21:18.34
- So eat for 18 hours.
00:21:18.34\00:21:20.08
(all laughing)
00:21:20.08\00:21:21.98
You know, like you
were talking about,
00:21:21.98\00:21:23.41
so, once we get to the airport,
00:21:23.41\00:21:26.38
you're literally
shuttled into a bus.
00:21:26.38\00:21:29.05
So there is no interacting
or meeting with anyone,
00:21:29.05\00:21:33.05
once you arrive.
00:21:33.05\00:21:35.29
And so, yeah.
00:21:35.29\00:21:36.22
- So that's gonna be tough.
00:21:36.22\00:21:37.86
- Yes.
00:21:37.86\00:21:38.79
So, but you're still doing it?
00:21:38.79\00:21:40.50
- Absolutely.
00:21:40.50\00:21:41.43
- So how do you handle that?
00:21:41.43\00:21:43.03
- When God calls you...
00:21:43.03\00:21:45.13
You know like, he was saying
earlier, it doesn't make sense.
00:21:45.13\00:21:49.54
Noah preaching for 120
years did not make sense.
00:21:49.54\00:21:53.21
Building a ark
did not make sense
00:21:53.21\00:21:55.21
when you've never seen rain.
00:21:55.21\00:21:57.41
You know, so traveling to
somewhere during the pandemic,
00:21:57.41\00:22:00.35
it does not make sense.
00:22:00.35\00:22:02.35
But God is in control
and I have to trust Him,
00:22:02.35\00:22:05.42
even though it makes no
sense to me or to those around.
00:22:05.42\00:22:09.59
- [Jon] Amen. - You know?
00:22:09.59\00:22:10.86
And so, you know,
this whole journey for us,
00:22:10.86\00:22:13.60
a lot of stuff we've
done does not make sense.
00:22:14.93\00:22:17.77
But we just have to trust
God 'cause He holds the future.
00:22:19.20\00:22:23.74
- [Jon] Amen.
00:22:24.34\00:22:25.61
- And so that's how
we're going forward.
00:22:25.61\00:22:27.28
You know, it didn't
make sense for Him to come
00:22:27.28\00:22:29.84
to this earth to die for me.
00:22:29.84\00:22:31.81
But he did it anyway.
00:22:31.81\00:22:33.45
- He came in during a time
where there was no vaccine.
00:22:33.45\00:22:36.15
- Yeah.
00:22:38.12\00:22:38.95
- [Jon] I don't know.
00:22:38.95\00:22:40.16
- You know, so there
was a pandemic then too.
00:22:40.16\00:22:44.03
And it still is
today, which is sin.
00:22:44.03\00:22:46.59
- He didn't catch it.
00:22:48.23\00:22:49.40
- But it cost Him His life.
00:22:51.17\00:22:52.67
- It cost him his life.
00:22:52.67\00:22:53.97
And so it's that
message we need to share.
00:22:53.97\00:22:58.27
- Understanding that we
could be in the same situation,
00:22:58.27\00:23:01.01
which could cost you your life.
00:23:01.01\00:23:03.65
You know, God came down.
00:23:03.65\00:23:05.15
He didn't catch sin, but
it did cost Him His life.
00:23:05.15\00:23:07.82
We're going
there to do God's work
00:23:07.82\00:23:09.92
and He's the physician,
He can quick fix anything.
00:23:09.92\00:23:12.89
Why are we worried
about sickness or whatever?
00:23:12.89\00:23:15.49
And if he allows us
to catch the sickness,
00:23:15.49\00:23:17.69
there's a reason for it.
00:23:17.69\00:23:19.23
You know, my mentality or the
way I look at things is like,
00:23:19.23\00:23:22.36
if God gives me
COVID for instance
00:23:22.36\00:23:25.07
and I end up in a hospital,
00:23:25.07\00:23:26.47
there's somebody in the hospital
that needs to be reached
00:23:26.47\00:23:28.37
and I couldn't reach them
unless I was in the hospital.
00:23:28.37\00:23:30.04
So, the Lord put
me there for a reason.
00:23:30.04\00:23:32.11
- Praise the Lord.
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- So, no matter what happens,
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if I end up in
prison for preaching,
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prisoners need to
know who Christ is too.
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So it's like, He's in
charge, wherever He puts me,
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He puts me for a reason.
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No, it's not gonna be easy.
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Yes. We were gonna second guess.
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I have a family to think
about and all these things,
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I understand that.
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But if he can leave
heaven, a perfect place,
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to come to this sinful world,
this sad, dark, sinful world
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for me. What am I not
willing to do for Him?
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I should be
willing to do whatever.
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- [Jon] Yeah.
Yeah. Because I mean,
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if we live is
Christ and if we die...
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- Is to gain.
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- Amen. And I was
gonna say that Psalm 91.
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That's the promise, you know?
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And when you read
Great Controversy, he says
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that's the promise
that will get through us...
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Get us through in the end.
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And so, you know, it was like
the angels will bear you up.
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If you dash your
foot against a stone.
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He's gonna cover
you with his wings.
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You know, I mean,
what better place to be?
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- Yeah. So how can
we pray for you guys?
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What is your
biggest prayer request?
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- Biggest prayer request?
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That's a good question.
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- That God will give us
the brain cells that we need
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to learn the language.
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Not just, like,
to not just get by,
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but to really understand,
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it's nothing
remotely close to English.
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- [Jon] Gift of tongues?
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- Yes.
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That's my biggest
prayer request at this time,
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that we will be able
to learn the language
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and understand
it 'cause you know,
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the first Angel's
message is to every nation,
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kindred, tongue and people.
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And you know, you can
tell people about Jesus
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but once you're able to
tell them in their language
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how much sweeter it is.
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- Yes.
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- You know, so that's
what we decided to do.
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- Praise the Lord.
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And our language is important.
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We need prayer for
that, prayer for our children.
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It's gonna be
difficult for them,
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though they want
to serve the Lord.
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They wanna be there.
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They're gonna work at
an orphanage for a while.
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They're gonna be doing
school online over there.
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You know, homeschooling
for the younger one.
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They just need comfort and
strength as we go through this.
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Financially, we haven't
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gotten pledges to save
for our monthly income.
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So just, I know the Lord
will provide, but it's not
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and we're going on faith so.
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- Amen. Amen.
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- Keep us in
prayer for those things.
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- And what about
the project itself?
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How's the building.
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Cause we have that.
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We purchased the
land, but it's empty.
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We're planning to build
this thing from scratch.
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So how's the building?
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- Okay. So, COVID has put
a damper in a lot of things.
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We do currently have a
builder ready to start work
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but COVID is keeping him
out of that city right now.
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So pray that the borders
open up from city to city.
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That he can go over there and
we can get that project going.
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- Amen. And of
course the students
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that are getting
trained to be the teachers.
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- Yes always be
praying for them.
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So much to be prayed for.
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- Absolutely. Well,
thankfully God's bigger.
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- Absolutely.
00:26:56.95\00:26:57.78
- Yeah. Awesome.
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Well, I
appreciate you guys being on.
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I know that you guys
are in a state of stress
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because four days
you gotta be on the plane
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but I appreciate the peace
that I see that you guys have.
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I know you're resting in
the promises of the Lord.
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So thanks for
joining us for that.
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Thank you for having us.
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And thank you for joining
us on this special episode
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of Jesus for Asia Now.
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Pray for the Howells
as they get ready through
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the last few days of preparation
and get on that plane
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and then the fun just begins.
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So, please uphold
them, pray for them.
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