(revealing music) 00:00:00.73\00:00:02.76 - Hello and welcome to Jesus For Asia Now. 00:00:21.48\00:00:23.39 Now I'm Natalie Wood and my husband John 00:00:23.39\00:00:25.42 is joining me here in the studio today, hello love. 00:00:25.42\00:00:28.46 - Hi darling, how are you today? 00:00:28.46\00:00:29.46 - I'm doing good. 00:00:29.46\00:00:30.56 - Good. 00:00:30.56\00:00:31.69 - I'm looking forward to this story 00:00:31.69\00:00:32.99 - Yeah me too - Which is update. 00:00:32.99\00:00:34.60 I guess we should say 00:00:34.60\00:00:35.66 - Expansion, milestone 00:00:35.66\00:00:37.40 - Prayer requests. 00:00:37.40\00:00:38.37 - Yes. 00:00:38.37\00:00:39.20 - All these things. 00:00:39.20\00:00:40.24 So can you share a little with us 00:00:40.24\00:00:41.57 about what we're looking at today? 00:00:41.57\00:00:43.61 - Okay, well, first of all, 00:00:43.61\00:00:45.44 I wanna introduce my involvement with the city 00:00:45.44\00:00:48.38 that we're talking about. 00:00:48.38\00:00:49.64 We're talking about Bangkok Thailand. 00:00:49.64\00:00:51.01 - Okay 00:00:51.01\00:00:52.25 - My first time I went there was in 1969. 00:00:52.25\00:00:55.35 - Oh wow. 00:00:55.35\00:00:56.18 - I was five years old 00:00:56.18\00:00:57.02 - Okay 00:00:57.02\00:00:58.52 - And my parents were returning missionaries from New Guinea 00:00:58.52\00:01:00.59 and they went through a number of countries 00:01:00.59\00:01:02.22 on the way back home. 00:01:02.22\00:01:03.19 And one of them was Thailand. 00:01:03.19\00:01:04.03 = Okay 00:01:04.03\00:01:05.46 - And I was recently going through some slides of my mother 00:01:05.46\00:01:09.03 she's passed away 00:01:09.03\00:01:10.67 and on one of the slides. 00:01:10.67\00:01:12.90 My mom had written on the paper part. 00:01:12.90\00:01:15.87 She says, "how in the world are we gonna reach 00:01:15.87\00:01:18.01 this huge city of 3 million people?" 00:01:18.01\00:01:21.34 And now there's 13 million people. 00:01:21.34\00:01:23.91 - Wow. 00:01:25.51\00:01:26.35 - And that was 1969. 00:01:26.35\00:01:27.65 And here we are 00:01:27.65\00:01:29.05 - 51 years later 00:01:29.05\00:01:30.35 - 51 years later. 00:01:30.35\00:01:31.89 And we're still asking the same question, 00:01:31.89\00:01:34.16 but we have a chance to make a difference. 00:01:34.16\00:01:36.29 When I was five, I couldn't do a lot. 00:01:36.29\00:01:38.89 - Right 00:01:38.89\00:01:40.16 - I enjoyed the elephant rides, the boat rides, 00:01:40.16\00:01:42.50 the beautiful dances that they had 00:01:42.50\00:01:44.90 and all that kind of stuff. 00:01:44.90\00:01:46.17 But I still remember a lot of those things 00:01:46.17\00:01:47.64 from when I was five, 00:01:47.64\00:01:48.94 but now we can make a difference. 00:01:48.94\00:01:50.67 We can really make an impact, and this is what I want to do. 00:01:50.67\00:01:54.91 - Okay 00:01:54.91\00:01:56.21 - And I think that a lot of our viewers, 00:01:56.21\00:01:57.48 I think we have agreement on this. 00:01:57.48\00:01:59.68 A lot of people would like to see a saving impact made 00:01:59.68\00:02:03.08 in some of these huge cities. 00:02:03.08\00:02:04.69 - Right 00:02:04.69\00:02:06.19 - But the real question is, and it's on everybody's mind, 00:02:06.19\00:02:07.82 everybody's asking this question, how do we do such a 00:02:07.82\00:02:10.49 thing? How do we make an impact on such a large city? 00:02:10.49\00:02:13.36 And I have to tell you about my friend Doug Van. 00:02:13.36\00:02:16.30 - Right? 00:02:16.30\00:02:17.63 - First time we met pastor Doug was in 2008 00:02:17.63\00:02:20.14 and he was a church planting pastor 00:02:20.14\00:02:22.64 in Bangkok sponsored by the general conference. 00:02:22.64\00:02:26.21 And his job was to plant five churches in Bangkok. 00:02:26.21\00:02:30.28 And I saw what he was doing. 00:02:30.28\00:02:33.15 And I was so excited about what his focus was 00:02:33.15\00:02:37.49 and what his mission was that I'm like, 00:02:37.49\00:02:39.45 I wanna film this. 00:02:40.89\00:02:42.36 So in 2009, we actually pitched 00:02:42.36\00:02:44.79 this to the general conference, 00:02:44.79\00:02:46.39 the Adventist Mission Department at General Conference. 00:02:46.39\00:02:48.83 And they said, yeah, we wanna see this happen. 00:02:48.83\00:02:51.17 And so in 2010, 00:02:51.17\00:02:52.63 I went over there to Bangkok 00:02:52.63\00:02:54.50 and I thought I'm gonna be here for two months, 00:02:54.50\00:02:57.47 film all 13 and then come back and edit them. 00:02:57.47\00:03:01.81 But after two months I had maybe two episodes filmed 00:03:01.81\00:03:05.95 and you and I were separated 00:03:05.95\00:03:08.58 for like three, four and a half months. 00:03:10.05\00:03:12.35 Finally, you came over. 00:03:12.35\00:03:13.69 But during that time, I got to follow him around 00:03:13.69\00:03:15.92 and see the challenges that he had in expanding the work 00:03:15.92\00:03:20.43 in an environment, in a culture, a church culture, 00:03:21.83\00:03:25.17 where there is very little support for evangelism. 00:03:25.17\00:03:30.17 There is very little support, especially foreign evangelism. 00:03:30.17\00:03:33.91 We feel like there's, here in America. 00:03:35.01\00:03:37.08 That there's very little support for evangelism in general. 00:03:37.08\00:03:39.75 But when you go overseas, you start to realize, wow, 00:03:39.75\00:03:43.59 over 92% of all Christian giving worldwide 00:03:43.59\00:03:47.69 goes to minister to the 8% that speak English. 00:03:47.69\00:03:51.23 That's like having 10 people 00:03:53.76\00:03:56.06 and you have 10 bottles of water 00:03:56.06\00:03:58.30 and you give nine bottles of water to one person 00:03:58.30\00:04:01.50 and one to the other nine. 00:04:01.50\00:04:04.14 And so I was always following pastor around. 00:04:04.14\00:04:07.08 I started to see this huge imbalanced 00:04:07.08\00:04:10.15 - Disparity 00:04:10.15\00:04:11.68 - Disparity yeah, between those that have the gospel 00:04:11.68\00:04:14.28 and those that do not. 00:04:14.28\00:04:15.72 And the majority of those that have the gospel 00:04:15.72\00:04:18.42 are hanging around others that have the gospel 00:04:18.42\00:04:22.32 and there's very little crossover. 00:04:22.32\00:04:23.86 And so I started developing a huge burden for the city. 00:04:23.86\00:04:28.46 A lot of people say, 00:04:28.46\00:04:29.66 well, you can't really live in the city, 00:04:29.66\00:04:31.30 but after being there for awhile, 00:04:31.30\00:04:33.27 I really started to sense the Holy spirit 00:04:33.27\00:04:36.10 in downtown Bangkok. 00:04:36.10\00:04:38.77 And why is that? 00:04:38.77\00:04:40.54 Because He's very clear on the fact that the Holy spirit 00:04:40.54\00:04:44.18 is where the need is. 00:04:44.18\00:04:45.35 He's where the people are. 00:04:45.35\00:04:46.85 He's where the people are that have the greatest need. 00:04:46.85\00:04:50.09 That's where He's the strongest. 00:04:50.09\00:04:51.75 And so as I walk around the city, now I see people, 00:04:51.75\00:04:56.29 I see people that need Christ. 00:04:56.29\00:04:58.26 And we actually were able to interview some people 00:04:58.26\00:05:00.73 that had never heard the name of Jesus before. 00:05:00.73\00:05:03.43 And I've got a couple of those clips here. 00:05:03.43\00:05:05.17 If you wanna show them. 00:05:05.17\00:05:06.00 - All right here we go. 00:05:06.00\00:05:07.14 (speaking in foreign language) 00:05:08.74\00:05:12.64 - They say they have never heard about Jesus 00:05:23.92\00:05:25.55 - [Man] Really? 00:05:25.55\00:05:26.49 - Yeah they have never heard 00:05:26.49\00:05:27.42 (speaking in foreign language) 00:05:27.42\00:05:31.63 - [Man] Would you like to know? 00:05:31.63\00:05:33.29 (speaking in foreign language) 00:05:33.29\00:05:37.17 - Now, pastor Doug was involved with planting churches. 00:05:42.84\00:05:46.68 And so they planted a church in a neighborhood in Bangkok. 00:05:46.68\00:05:51.28 Now Bangkok is a massive city, 00:05:51.28\00:05:54.25 13 million people, almost half a million acres. 00:05:55.65\00:05:59.49 The perimeter is like over a hundred miles 00:06:00.72\00:06:03.59 around the perimeter. 00:06:03.59\00:06:04.53 So, you know if you're a 00:06:04.53\00:06:06.46 - Is a sizable place. 00:06:06.46\00:06:08.03 - Yeah, and there's all these different districts 00:06:08.03\00:06:10.97 and the church, 00:06:10.97\00:06:12.47 we had presence in maybe 20 of the 50 districts in Bangkok. 00:06:12.47\00:06:16.77 The Adventist church has that kind of presence. 00:06:16.77\00:06:19.67 And so you might have the gospel planted 00:06:19.67\00:06:23.04 in one neighborhood, but the next neighborhood, 00:06:23.04\00:06:25.81 or just a few blocks down they've never heard it. 00:06:25.81\00:06:29.35 - This pink area, there's nothing, this green area, 00:06:29.35\00:06:32.72 nothing. And here in blue and orange and this green area, 00:06:32.72\00:06:37.73 nothing. And in this kind of pink and yellow area, 00:06:39.76\00:06:43.93 green area downtown, or if you call it downtown, 00:06:43.93\00:06:48.54 we have nothing 00:06:48.54\00:06:49.54 by the airport, we have nothing. 00:06:52.11\00:06:54.88 So yeah, we just. 00:06:54.88\00:06:56.58 - There's a story about a missionary 00:06:58.18\00:07:01.28 that went to one neighborhood and they shared the gospel 00:07:01.28\00:07:03.22 and they were so excited. 00:07:03.22\00:07:04.25 They were like, wow, 00:07:04.25\00:07:05.19 this has never been in Thailand. 00:07:05.19\00:07:06.72 This is the first time we need to tell everybody in Thailand 00:07:06.72\00:07:09.19 having no clue that it had been in Thailand before. 00:07:09.19\00:07:12.69 And so I was at a church plant with pastor Doug 00:07:12.69\00:07:16.13 and he introduced me to one of the new members there. 00:07:16.13\00:07:19.60 And I asked them, 00:07:19.60\00:07:21.57 how old was she when she first heard 00:07:21.57\00:07:23.54 the name of Jesus Christ? 00:07:23.54\00:07:25.21 I mean, we grow up. 00:07:25.21\00:07:26.64 Yeah, there's a lot of unbelievers here in America, 00:07:26.64\00:07:29.01 but almost everybody's heard of Jesus. 00:07:29.01\00:07:31.35 When you say the name Jesus, 00:07:31.35\00:07:32.61 they think, oh, somebody up there. 00:07:32.61\00:07:34.48 - Right 00:07:34.48\00:07:36.12 - They have a little understanding of that. 00:07:36.12\00:07:37.65 But here I have a clip where he's asking her, 00:07:37.65\00:07:40.42 how old were you when you first heard the name of Jesus? 00:07:40.42\00:07:43.22 - I was asking Miss. Gunn. 00:07:44.33\00:07:45.99 Who is a Buddhist that five years ago before 00:07:45.99\00:07:49.80 when the center just started 00:07:49.80\00:07:52.20 and she came here to study English. 00:07:52.20\00:07:55.27 Had you ever heard of Jesus Christ before? 00:07:55.27\00:07:57.97 And her answer to me was no, 00:07:57.97\00:07:59.67 she'd never heard the story about Jesus before. 00:07:59.67\00:08:02.34 - [Man] Had she actually ever heard the name of Jesus 00:08:02.34\00:08:05.21 (speaking in foreign language) 00:08:05.21\00:08:09.22 - So no, she had never 00:08:11.72\00:08:13.22 (speaking foreign language) 00:08:13.22\00:08:16.89 - 45 00:08:18.69\00:08:19.53 (speaking foreign language) 00:08:26.13\00:08:29.90 - So she is 40 years old. 00:08:43.32\00:08:45.59 So here's a woman that was 40 years old 00:08:45.59\00:08:47.56 before she heard the name of Jesus 00:08:47.56\00:08:49.12 for the first time in her life. 00:08:49.12\00:08:50.63 - Wow 00:08:50.63\00:08:51.46 - Amazing. 00:08:51.46\00:08:52.29 - Yeah. 00:08:52.29\00:08:53.43 - While I was there, we visited 00:08:53.43\00:08:54.63 a number different church plants. 00:08:54.63\00:08:56.06 And one of the church plants was in Rome campaign. 00:08:56.06\00:08:59.03 And this is what we saw. 00:08:59.03\00:09:01.07 We've been in this community now for what? 00:09:23.32\00:09:25.49 In March, it'll be five years. 00:09:25.49\00:09:27.10 How do you feel about that? 00:09:28.96\00:09:29.93 - Very safe 00:09:29.93\00:09:30.77 I'd love to stay here, we have so many friends 00:09:32.93\00:09:35.80 Its so sad to say goodbye to everyone. 00:09:36.97\00:09:39.61 - [Man] How many people live in this building right here? 00:09:44.68\00:09:47.05 - There's a lot of people who lives in that building. 00:09:47.05\00:09:49.72 They have like a thousand units 00:09:49.72\00:09:52.29 - [Man] This the next location for outreach. 00:09:52.29\00:09:54.69 - You know, there's a flood of stories 00:09:54.69\00:09:55.96 that are coming to my mind right now 00:09:55.96\00:09:58.03 of people meeting Jesus Christ 00:09:58.03\00:10:00.30 and having their prayers answered of a God, 00:10:00.30\00:10:03.80 a personal God who really cares that happened in this place. 00:10:03.80\00:10:08.80 You know, prayers for healing, prayers for jobs, 00:10:10.21\00:10:12.04 prayer for families, prayers for relationships, 00:10:12.04\00:10:16.04 even the desperate prayers of university students 00:10:16.04\00:10:20.98 trying to cram to get exams, 00:10:20.98\00:10:23.05 The God of this place, can you help me pass my exams. 00:10:24.52\00:10:27.69 And you know, to hear those stories of God, 00:10:28.89\00:10:31.06 even answering those kinds of prayers, 00:10:31.06\00:10:33.09 I see young people 00:10:33.09\00:10:34.20 who are committing their lives. 00:10:35.70\00:10:37.73 I see old people who are being awakened 00:10:37.73\00:10:41.20 to the fact that Jesus died for us. 00:10:41.20\00:10:46.17 Jesus died for me, not just for us. 00:10:47.38\00:10:50.21 And because of that, 00:10:50.21\00:10:51.91 that means that I have the privilege 00:10:51.91\00:10:55.08 of sharing that news with others. 00:10:55.08\00:10:57.15 And guess what Jesus is coming again. 00:10:57.15\00:10:59.42 And with that good news of Jesus coming again, 00:10:59.42\00:11:04.16 who will go and share it with the community, this community 00:11:04.16\00:11:07.40 who will live it? 00:11:10.47\00:11:11.70 who will walk with the drug abusing mother? 00:11:11.70\00:11:14.64 who will walk with the couple 00:11:15.74\00:11:18.74 who's going through a marital problems? 00:11:18.74\00:11:21.44 who will walk with these people? 00:11:21.44\00:11:23.28 But I know that love of Christ, 00:11:24.55\00:11:29.15 that joy, that assurance, that peace, 00:11:30.49\00:11:33.72 that hope is real in my heart. 00:11:34.62\00:11:37.36 And that's what I wanna share. 00:11:38.79\00:11:40.00 That's what I'm trying to share. 00:11:40.00\00:11:41.36 That's what this team is trying to share. 00:11:41.36\00:11:43.40 That's what they have done in the last five years. 00:11:43.40\00:11:46.03 Are we done? 00:11:46.03\00:11:46.87 Are we done? 00:11:48.57\00:11:49.37 I don't think so. 00:11:53.98\00:11:55.38 There's a part of a series 13 episodes 00:11:58.38\00:12:01.45 where I followed him throughout Bangkok, 00:12:01.45\00:12:03.45 as he did his work of sharing the gospel 00:12:03.45\00:12:06.29 and planting churches as much as possible. 00:12:06.29\00:12:08.92 And I followed him for nine months 00:12:08.92\00:12:11.23 and came back and edited series together. 00:12:11.23\00:12:14.00 And in 2012, we were sharing this at one of our faith camps. 00:12:14.00\00:12:18.97 And pastor Doug came to that faith camp and one young couple 00:12:20.37\00:12:22.20 that came to lead the prayer room 00:12:22.20\00:12:24.81 - Right 00:12:24.81\00:12:26.07 - They learned of this need. 00:12:26.07\00:12:28.54 - Right. 00:12:28.54\00:12:29.48 - And their hearts were touched 00:12:29.48\00:12:30.31 - Right 00:12:30.31\00:12:31.81 - And they said, we need to go where the need is greatest 00:12:31.81\00:12:33.08 because that's what Jesus says to do. 00:12:33.08\00:12:35.02 - Right. 00:12:35.02\00:12:36.25 - And so they decided we're gonna do this. 00:12:36.25\00:12:38.45 And of course, you know the story. 00:12:38.45\00:12:40.42 - Yeah, that was Brian and Jessica Atwell. 00:12:40.42\00:12:42.26 And the Lord led them to after seeing 00:12:42.26\00:12:44.86 "The I Want This City Series" 00:12:44.86\00:12:47.00 that you did with pastor Doug 00:12:47.00\00:12:48.70 to go to Bangkok 00:12:48.70\00:12:50.23 - Right. 00:12:50.23\00:12:51.20 - And to work for Bangkok. 00:12:51.20\00:12:52.47 - Right, and as they were preparing to go, 00:12:52.47\00:12:53.54 they had their first son 00:12:53.54\00:12:55.07 - Right 00:12:55.07\00:12:56.30 - And the first son had some medical needs. 00:12:56.30\00:12:58.24 - Right. 00:12:58.24\00:12:59.77 - Most people would say, well, we have to stay in America. 00:12:59.77\00:13:01.81 That's a sign from God that we shouldn't go. 00:13:01.81\00:13:03.55 - Right. 00:13:03.55\00:13:05.05 - But they said, no, God's gonna take care of the son. 00:13:05.05\00:13:07.48 If he's calling us, 00:13:07.48\00:13:08.75 he will provide what we need, and what happened? 00:13:08.75\00:13:11.89 - Oh, God provided exactly what they needed. 00:13:11.89\00:13:14.32 He, had a shunt in his head 00:13:14.32\00:13:16.42 and there's a special piece of equipment. 00:13:16.42\00:13:18.56 That's used to regulate that. 00:13:18.56\00:13:20.30 And that piece of equipment was sent to Thailand with them 00:13:20.30\00:13:24.83 by the company. 00:13:24.83\00:13:25.77 So it was a blessing from God. 00:13:25.77\00:13:28.30 - Yes, and so they stepped out by faith 00:13:28.30\00:13:31.11 and they spent the first year and a half or so 00:13:31.11\00:13:33.44 in language study and in prayer, 00:13:33.44\00:13:36.18 what they were supposed to do, what they were going to do, 00:13:36.18\00:13:38.91 what kind of ministry to do, 00:13:38.91\00:13:40.78 because in Thailand, you can't just come in 00:13:40.78\00:13:42.82 and tell people about Christ 00:13:42.82\00:13:44.02 because they don't trust you. 00:13:44.02\00:13:46.69 They don't believe you. 00:13:46.69\00:13:47.92 You have to establish a relationship with them 00:13:47.92\00:13:50.29 so that you gain their trust. 00:13:50.29\00:13:52.06 Just like Jesus. 00:13:52.06\00:13:54.13 Jesus method alone will be effective. 00:13:54.13\00:13:56.93 He mingled with men as one desiring their good 00:13:56.93\00:14:00.04 gained their confidence, and then said, follow me. 00:14:00.04\00:14:03.61 And so this is what they were trying to do. 00:14:04.74\00:14:06.94 And they did their final part of their language study up 00:14:06.94\00:14:11.45 in the North. 00:14:11.45\00:14:12.91 And then they were praying, Lord, what do you want us to do? 00:14:12.91\00:14:14.82 And they were going back and forth 00:14:14.82\00:14:17.12 between three different ministries. 00:14:17.12\00:14:18.99 - Right, a fruit smoothie shop, 00:14:18.99\00:14:21.29 or a restaurant or a climbing wall. 00:14:21.29\00:14:24.79 They were just going, 00:14:24.79\00:14:26.03 they felt very flighty going back and forth 00:14:26.03\00:14:27.76 on what they should do. 00:14:27.76\00:14:28.86 - Right. 00:14:28.86\00:14:30.07 - But then the Lord started guiding. 00:14:30.07\00:14:31.27 - Yes 00:14:31.27\00:14:32.10 - Very clearly guiding 00:14:32.10\00:14:33.34 - Yes, and the Lord led them to a building 00:14:33.34\00:14:36.37 that was way bigger than what they were expecting. 00:14:36.37\00:14:38.67 They were looking for us a little cubby hole side. 00:14:38.67\00:14:41.24 - Kind of a storefront kind of thing. 00:14:41.24\00:14:42.98 - But He led them to this 15,000 square foot 00:14:42.98\00:14:46.35 five story building. 00:14:46.35\00:14:47.58 - Right. 00:14:47.58\00:14:48.82 - We're gonna zoom in on this location. 00:14:48.82\00:14:50.42 - Okay. 00:14:50.42\00:14:51.25 - This is Thailand. 00:14:51.25\00:14:52.49 You can see the Bay of Thailand in the bottom. 00:14:52.49\00:14:54.06 The little red dot is where we're going. 00:14:54.06\00:14:56.83 You can see how big Bangkok is, 00:14:56.83\00:14:58.59 now we're zooming into a university. 00:14:58.59\00:15:01.73 - Right? 00:15:01.73\00:15:03.16 - Okay, and this university has how many students? 00:15:03.16\00:15:05.37 - 525,000, it's the 12th largest university in the world. 00:15:05.37\00:15:09.64 - In the world, that's a lot of students. 00:15:09.64\00:15:11.87 - Yes 00:15:11.87\00:15:13.01 - Wouldn't it be amazing to put a center 00:15:13.01\00:15:14.91 right next to that university? 00:15:14.91\00:15:17.38 - Well, you know God had that same idea. 00:15:17.38\00:15:19.38 - Because just South 00:15:22.08\00:15:24.95 of one of the main entrances to that university 00:15:24.95\00:15:28.99 is the center of influence. 00:15:28.99\00:15:31.69 - Right, yeah, you can see the little circle 00:15:31.69\00:15:34.13 there over the building. 00:15:34.13\00:15:35.33 - Yeah, you can see the red building 00:15:35.33\00:15:37.63 on the lower left corner. 00:15:37.63\00:15:39.10 The face is red. 00:15:39.10\00:15:40.34 That's the center of influence. 00:15:40.34\00:15:42.94 - Right? 00:15:42.94\00:15:44.07 - Yeah, well established and to the right 00:15:44.07\00:15:45.47 you can see that is the Ramkhamhaeng university, campus, 00:15:45.47\00:15:48.91 half a million kids. 00:15:48.91\00:15:50.11 - Right, and this center is actually located 00:15:50.11\00:15:53.31 in the middle of a housing area for the university. 00:15:53.31\00:15:56.48 And yeah, one of the main entrances is 400 feet 00:15:56.48\00:15:59.79 from the center. 00:15:59.79\00:16:01.39 - Yeah, so prime location for witnessing and it's fantastic. 00:16:01.39\00:16:05.76 This is the stadium of the university. 00:16:05.76\00:16:07.66 Just to give you an idea of, 00:16:07.66\00:16:08.96 this is at for real university. 00:16:08.96\00:16:11.40 - Right, its big. 00:16:11.40\00:16:12.77 - The college I went to. 00:16:12.77\00:16:14.07 Yeah, it doesn't have one of these. 00:16:14.07\00:16:16.20 - So the climbing wall part of the center 00:16:17.34\00:16:19.34 has been operating for several years 00:16:19.34\00:16:21.18 and the bakery, they've been making baked goods 00:16:21.18\00:16:23.91 and taking them out to sell. 00:16:23.91\00:16:25.88 So it's not been like having a restaurant 00:16:25.88\00:16:28.15 or having a smoothie shop open, 00:16:28.15\00:16:30.15 but they've been working 00:16:30.15\00:16:32.12 and they've been taking, with the climbing wall, 00:16:32.12\00:16:35.09 they've been taking people out into the country 00:16:35.09\00:16:37.49 for a day trips to do climbing 00:16:37.49\00:16:39.79 in actual rock with actual nature. 00:16:39.79\00:16:42.63 - Right, and the reason for that is that, 00:16:42.63\00:16:44.93 when you get people away from their comfort zone, 00:16:44.93\00:16:48.27 they open up more, 00:16:48.27\00:16:49.54 they sit and then they'll talk more. 00:16:49.54\00:16:51.04 And then when they climb and they're hanging on a rope, 00:16:51.04\00:16:54.08 you can talk about faith and tremendous opportunities 00:16:54.08\00:16:56.98 and you spend more time with them, 00:16:56.98\00:16:58.85 when you're driving an hour and a half each way in the car 00:16:58.85\00:17:01.48 and you get a chance to talk about it. 00:17:01.48\00:17:02.98 - Spending time in nature is, is usually a quite peaceful, 00:17:02.98\00:17:06.96 relaxing type of thing. 00:17:06.96\00:17:08.56 - Yeah, and see the works of God, the handiwork of God. 00:17:08.56\00:17:11.59 - Yeah, and it gives them a chance 00:17:11.59\00:17:13.19 to challenge some of their fears maybe, 00:17:13.19\00:17:15.90 or to learn new skills. 00:17:15.90\00:17:17.20 - Right. 00:17:17.20\00:17:18.43 - So it's a very kind of bonding type of thing. 00:17:18.43\00:17:21.17 - Absolutely. 00:17:21.17\00:17:22.47 - So when they were originally discussing 00:17:22.47\00:17:25.37 what they should do, 00:17:25.37\00:17:27.08 the normal approach is to set up an outpost center 00:17:27.08\00:17:30.95 in the country and then work the city from there. 00:17:30.95\00:17:35.12 But every ministry that we know that have tried to do that 00:17:35.12\00:17:39.19 never have a real strong impact in the city 00:17:39.19\00:17:42.82 because it's so time consuming, 00:17:42.82\00:17:44.36 setting up your center in the country. 00:17:44.36\00:17:47.00 And it's so impractical and inconvenient 00:17:47.00\00:17:49.83 to drive into the city, you know, 00:17:49.83\00:17:52.07 in Allan White's day, 00:17:52.07\00:17:53.27 I think that it would take a few minutes 00:17:53.27\00:17:55.20 and you were into the city 00:17:55.20\00:17:56.64 and it was very much more densely compacted. 00:17:56.64\00:18:00.31 The people were compacted together, much worse situation. 00:18:00.31\00:18:03.91 - Right, you got into country very fast 00:18:03.91\00:18:06.08 - Right in the states. 00:18:06.08\00:18:07.35 - Whereas today it takes a long time 00:18:07.35\00:18:09.05 just to get out of the city. 00:18:09.05\00:18:10.22 - Right, if traffic's bad in Bangkok, 00:18:10.22\00:18:12.32 we've had to take us over three hours. 00:18:12.32\00:18:14.19 - Just to get across the city. 00:18:14.19\00:18:15.59 - Right 00:18:15.59\00:18:17.09 - It's just a matter. 00:18:17.09\00:18:18.33 - Or from near the center out even 00:18:18.33\00:18:20.30 it's been because traffic gets so bad, sometimes. 00:18:20.30\00:18:23.06 - It's terrible, and so what they decided to do 00:18:23.06\00:18:27.10 with our complete support is to start in the city first, 00:18:27.10\00:18:31.71 establish the work in the city. 00:18:31.71\00:18:33.41 And when that gets to a point where it is functioning 00:18:33.41\00:18:37.05 and able to move forward, 00:18:37.05\00:18:39.05 then do your outpost center in the country 00:18:39.05\00:18:42.58 where you'll have a retreat for your workers, 00:18:42.58\00:18:45.29 for yourself for the family. 00:18:45.29\00:18:47.12 And you can also have a training center 00:18:47.12\00:18:49.42 and you can choose your land 00:18:49.42\00:18:52.46 with much more intelligence. 00:18:52.46\00:18:54.36 - Right. 00:18:54.36\00:18:55.30 - With the ministry in mind 00:18:55.30\00:18:57.37 that it can then support the ministry 00:18:57.37\00:19:00.04 and not just be, cause the truth is, 00:19:00.04\00:19:03.10 and this is what I learned when I was in Bangkok 00:19:03.10\00:19:05.71 for nine months with pastor Doug 00:19:05.71\00:19:06.98 is if you're not there every day in the city, 00:19:06.98\00:19:10.21 then you're not gonna gain the trust of people. 00:19:10.21\00:19:13.18 People aren't going to know you. 00:19:13.18\00:19:14.48 They're not going to see, 00:19:14.48\00:19:15.68 you know, it's one thing to have information 00:19:15.68\00:19:18.35 let's say here in America, a lot of people know who God is. 00:19:18.35\00:19:21.59 - Right. 00:19:21.59\00:19:23.09 - And they learn a little bit more information about him. 00:19:23.09\00:19:25.39 And then they accept that. 00:19:25.39\00:19:26.90 Whereas when you're working with people that have no idea 00:19:26.90\00:19:29.46 who God is, 00:19:29.46\00:19:30.40 we were walking down the street 00:19:30.40\00:19:31.87 and my friend asked a lady, like, if you accept God, 00:19:31.87\00:19:35.90 then you can have eternal life. 00:19:35.90\00:19:37.17 And the lady's like, "what is God?" 00:19:37.17\00:19:39.14 That's like. 00:19:40.48\00:19:41.64 - Concepts we take for granted. 00:19:41.64\00:19:43.18 - Exactly 00:19:43.18\00:19:44.41 - They don't know, they don't have. 00:19:44.41\00:19:45.75 - They've never been around a Christian. 00:19:45.75\00:19:48.28 They've never seen a Christian live their life. 00:19:48.28\00:19:51.15 And so when you have to live in the city 00:19:51.15\00:19:54.79 for people to see what a Christian looks like 00:19:54.79\00:19:57.79 and how he works and how he does his life 00:19:58.99\00:20:00.93 and how he treats his wife and his kids 00:20:00.93\00:20:02.80 and all these things. 00:20:02.80\00:20:03.83 They have to see that. 00:20:03.83\00:20:05.30 But now that they've had their ministry established, 00:20:05.30\00:20:07.54 they now know what kind of property would support 00:20:07.54\00:20:11.37 that ministry in the city 00:20:11.37\00:20:13.34 and the people that are working there 00:20:13.34\00:20:15.08 for training and for all that kind of stuff. 00:20:15.08\00:20:17.81 - So one thing they're looking for specifically 00:20:17.81\00:20:20.08 is access to climbing 00:20:20.08\00:20:22.15 because the place where they currently go, 00:20:22.15\00:20:24.52 the access is on private land. 00:20:24.52\00:20:26.02 And so someone could deny them access later. 00:20:26.02\00:20:28.59 - Right? 00:20:28.59\00:20:30.06 - They're very concerned about losing that accessibility. 00:20:30.06\00:20:33.16 - Having to start paying for it or something like that, 00:20:33.16\00:20:36.20 looking for land next to a big mountain. 00:20:36.20\00:20:38.57 - Right? 00:20:38.57\00:20:39.53 - We call them mountains there. 00:20:39.53\00:20:40.90 But it's kind of a unique land 00:20:40.90\00:20:43.54 because here you have like in America, 00:20:43.54\00:20:46.57 at least where I grew up, 00:20:46.57\00:20:47.81 you had flat plane and then rolling Hills 00:20:47.81\00:20:50.65 and then big mountains 00:20:50.65\00:20:52.08 here you have flat planes and big mountains, 00:20:52.08\00:20:54.45 flat planes, just like sticking up like teeth. 00:20:54.45\00:20:57.42 - So they have found some property 00:20:58.55\00:20:59.82 - Praise the Lord. 00:20:59.82\00:21:01.16 - And we have some video about that. 00:21:01.16\00:21:02.09 - Okay. 00:21:02.09\00:21:03.29 (soft music) 00:21:03.29\00:21:05.73 - So my family and I moved to Bangkok Thailand 00:21:08.60\00:21:11.40 just over six years ago, 00:21:11.40\00:21:12.93 with the intent of starting a health based ministry 00:21:12.93\00:21:15.40 for the people of Bangkok. 00:21:15.40\00:21:16.87 - We run the F5 Challenge Center. 00:21:16.87\00:21:19.17 It is a urban center of influence. 00:21:19.17\00:21:21.71 - We currently have a plant-based bakery 00:21:21.71\00:21:24.31 as well as a rock climbing gym. 00:21:24.31\00:21:26.28 - And the rock climbing gym has provided 00:21:26.28\00:21:27.92 a lot of opportunity to build relationships 00:21:27.92\00:21:30.75 with people very quickly. 00:21:30.75\00:21:32.25 - What we started to do is lead outdoor climbing trips, 00:21:32.25\00:21:35.69 where we take people out of the concrete jungle, 00:21:35.69\00:21:37.96 into the real jungle, get them up on the real rock. 00:21:37.96\00:21:41.16 And as we did that, 00:21:41.16\00:21:42.36 we realized the desire that people have 00:21:42.36\00:21:44.40 for being out in nature 00:21:44.40\00:21:45.67 and how easy it was to bridge conversations 00:21:45.67\00:21:48.40 into talking about God, as we were out in his creation. 00:21:48.40\00:21:50.94 - We are counseled to live outside of the cities, 00:21:50.94\00:21:52.84 but to work inside of the city. 00:21:52.84\00:21:54.88 we see so many outpost centers start, 00:21:54.88\00:21:56.78 but never get into the city. 00:21:56.78\00:21:59.21 And so we did it the other way around 00:21:59.21\00:22:00.82 our children were still very, very young when we came here, 00:22:00.82\00:22:03.32 they're infants or unborn. 00:22:03.32\00:22:05.62 And so we started the Urban Center of Influence first. 00:22:05.62\00:22:09.96 - And now, after being in that city for six years, 00:22:09.96\00:22:13.16 we're really needing, 00:22:13.16\00:22:14.66 to set up that outpost 00:22:14.66\00:22:16.33 so that we have that place 00:22:16.33\00:22:18.10 where we can be away from the city where we can recharge, 00:22:18.10\00:22:20.67 where we can refresh, 00:22:20.67\00:22:22.07 connect with God in the things that he has made. 00:22:22.07\00:22:24.34 (soft music) 00:22:24.34\00:22:26.74 - It is this beautiful piece of land. 00:22:32.71\00:22:34.15 It's absolutely perfect because right across the road 00:22:34.15\00:22:37.69 is climbing that could be developed there. 00:22:37.69\00:22:40.49 - The idea is to set up some kind of a rustic type camping. 00:22:42.32\00:22:45.03 So we would have like elevated bamboo platforms 00:22:45.03\00:22:47.40 with grass roofs to keep rain out if it rained 00:22:47.40\00:22:49.93 with tents on them, 00:22:49.93\00:22:51.67 but it will give us an opportunity to connect with 00:22:51.67\00:22:53.17 people. We would have a centralized kitchen area 00:22:53.17\00:22:55.54 restaurant, if you will, 00:22:55.54\00:22:56.81 with eating where we can sit down 00:22:56.81\00:22:58.27 and connect with the people, 00:22:58.27\00:23:00.14 share with them that we would have worships as well. 00:23:00.14\00:23:03.01 Our home would be here for our family. 00:23:03.01\00:23:05.18 - Our church and Pathfinders 00:23:05.18\00:23:06.72 and the children here right now. 00:23:06.72\00:23:08.85 They have to rent other people's camps for summer camp 00:23:08.85\00:23:12.22 and Pathfinders event. 00:23:12.22\00:23:13.72 Well, we could be that place for them to hold those events. 00:23:13.72\00:23:16.56 If we had this property. 00:23:16.56\00:23:18.16 - So we just wanna invite you to join us 00:23:18.16\00:23:20.26 in praying for this property, 00:23:20.26\00:23:22.03 that God would provide the resources we need 00:23:22.03\00:23:24.37 to purchase and develop it. 00:23:24.37\00:23:25.60 - Isn't that beautiful? 00:23:30.37\00:23:31.54 - It is a beautiful piece of land, 00:23:31.54\00:23:32.84 - Right at the base of the climbing mountain. 00:23:32.84\00:23:35.01 - So the property could be used 00:23:35.01\00:23:36.48 as a retreat location or for a training location 00:23:36.48\00:23:40.68 for opportunity for climbing camps 00:23:40.68\00:23:43.28 or for youth meetings youth camps. 00:23:43.28\00:23:46.59 - Those kinds of things. 00:23:46.59\00:23:47.86 - Yeah, and it would be a place for them 00:23:47.86\00:23:50.36 to be able to raise their three kids now. 00:23:50.36\00:23:53.43 In contact with God's nature. 00:23:54.30\00:23:56.40 - Right. 00:23:56.40\00:23:57.83 - Right now there is they're living in the center 00:23:57.83\00:23:59.80 and the kids have no contact with nature at all there. 00:23:59.80\00:24:04.47 And so it's a little bit difficult. 00:24:04.47\00:24:07.38 Yeah, I can't imagine living in a place 00:24:08.54\00:24:11.88 that's all concrete in a building with three kids 00:24:13.08\00:24:16.95 - Right and it's been locked down. 00:24:16.95\00:24:18.42 So it's like, you can't even go to any of the parks 00:24:18.42\00:24:20.79 in the city, not that it's convenient to go to them anyway. 00:24:20.79\00:24:23.43 - Right yeah. 00:24:23.43\00:24:24.63 - And so it's been hard for them, 00:24:24.63\00:24:27.76 - Right, so there's just a lot of reasons 00:24:27.76\00:24:30.87 why this makes sense for God's kingdom, for the ministry, 00:24:30.87\00:24:35.67 for the people of Thailand. 00:24:35.67\00:24:37.97 - So the next video we have is a church member, 00:24:37.97\00:24:40.48 a Thai lady who's been instrumental in helping them 00:24:40.48\00:24:44.01 with negotiating and trying to find a property. 00:24:44.01\00:24:47.05 - Correct. 00:24:47.05\00:24:48.48 - The property that F5 is looking into buying in kayoing, 00:24:48.48\00:24:53.32 is an asset. 00:24:54.79\00:24:56.79 I believe it will be very beneficial for the ministry 00:24:56.79\00:25:00.86 it's out in nature. 00:25:00.86\00:25:02.03 And it is equipped with the climbing wall 00:25:02.03\00:25:05.67 where a lot more activities can be done outdoor, 00:25:05.67\00:25:09.24 especially for biking, climbing and other camping. 00:25:09.24\00:25:14.24 Nowadays, people are into that 00:25:15.11\00:25:16.58 and we are living in the city 00:25:16.58\00:25:19.45 and people are deprived of nature 00:25:19.45\00:25:21.92 and doing outdoor activity. 00:25:21.92\00:25:23.89 And I believe that the ministry can be expanded 00:25:23.89\00:25:27.19 because more people will be drawn to going into that place 00:25:27.19\00:25:32.19 where it's full of nature, the peace, 00:25:33.40\00:25:35.06 the difference that they can see 00:25:35.06\00:25:38.23 in not just the activity, 00:25:38.23\00:25:39.83 but the environment and the surrounding 00:25:39.83\00:25:42.14 the influence will be drawn much deeper to the people. 00:25:42.14\00:25:46.51 So I believe that it will be a very good benefit, 00:25:46.51\00:25:50.15 for this ministry as by the Lord's will, 00:25:50.15\00:25:53.85 it will be bought and purchased and be utilized 00:25:55.25\00:25:57.75 for the ministry. 00:25:57.75\00:25:59.52 - So some people may be wondering 00:25:59.52\00:26:01.39 what's the price of land in Thailand, 00:26:01.39\00:26:03.29 - Right? 00:26:03.29\00:26:04.53 - Unfortunately it's not as cheap 00:26:04.53\00:26:05.93 as some places in the world 00:26:05.93\00:26:07.73 in Thailand, as well as in other places in Asia, 00:26:07.73\00:26:11.50 there's very little land compared to the number of 00:26:11.50\00:26:14.64 people. - Right? 00:26:14.64\00:26:16.00 - And so land is expensive, a place like this, 00:26:16.00\00:26:18.87 I would have expected to be in the $1 million range, 00:26:18.87\00:26:23.88 but the Lord has blessed 00:26:24.61\00:26:26.11 and it's in the a hundred thousand dollars range. 00:26:26.11\00:26:28.48 - Wow. 00:26:28.48\00:26:29.42 - Which is still a lot of money, 00:26:29.42\00:26:30.62 but what it establishes, what it gains us 00:26:30.62\00:26:34.86 as far as a foothold in that area. 00:26:34.86\00:26:36.96 And for that purpose I have no doubt 00:26:36.96\00:26:40.86 that it's very well worth it. 00:26:40.86\00:26:42.70 - Right, right, so how big is this property? 00:26:42.70\00:26:45.57 - It's almost five acres. 00:26:45.57\00:26:46.94 - Okay. 00:26:46.94\00:26:47.77 - So it's not huge, 00:26:47.77\00:26:49.00 but it's sufficient to do what they need to do 00:26:49.00\00:26:51.87 and develop the resources there that, 00:26:51.87\00:26:53.64 and it's completely undeveloped, 00:26:53.64\00:26:55.54 - Okay 00:26:55.54\00:26:56.38 - So they barely 00:26:56.38\00:26:57.85 have a road going there - There no water, there's no 00:26:57.85\00:26:58.78 - There's no water or power. 00:26:58.78\00:27:00.28 - There's gonna be some investment 00:27:00.28\00:27:01.75 in some of that infrastructure as well. 00:27:01.75\00:27:03.82 - Right. 00:27:03.82\00:27:05.29 - So the property itself is around 110,000 right now 00:27:05.29\00:27:07.92 with the exchange rate. 00:27:07.92\00:27:09.29 - Yep. 00:27:09.29\00:27:10.56 - Okay, and so then property development 00:27:10.56\00:27:12.09 and all that would be on top of that. 00:27:12.09\00:27:13.50 - Correct, yeah. 00:27:13.50\00:27:14.30 - Okay - Yeah. 00:27:14.30\00:27:15.80 - Thank you for sharing this story with us today. 00:27:15.80\00:27:17.07 - My pleasure. 00:27:17.07\00:27:18.07 - And this opportunity 00:27:18.07\00:27:19.30 - Yes - Actually 00:27:19.30\00:27:20.14 - Absolutely. 00:27:20.14\00:27:21.34 - And if you would like to take advantage 00:27:21.34\00:27:22.60 of this opportunity, 00:27:22.60\00:27:23.84 I would invite you to pray with us 00:27:23.84\00:27:26.04 as Brian requested in the video. 00:27:26.04\00:27:28.14 Pray for this land, that if it's the right land, 00:27:28.14\00:27:30.95 the finances will come in quickly 00:27:30.95\00:27:33.05 and we'll be able to purchase it and develop it as needed. 00:27:33.05\00:27:36.48 If it's not the right property that the Lord would show us 00:27:36.48\00:27:38.89 what the right property is. 00:27:38.89\00:27:40.72 So that Brian and Jessica 00:27:40.72\00:27:42.09 can have the place that God has planned 00:27:42.09\00:27:44.46 for this ministry to be expanded. 00:27:44.46\00:27:46.70 If you would like to get in touch with us, 00:27:46.70\00:27:48.23 you can contact us at Jesus for Asia 00:27:48.23\00:27:50.57 PO box 1221, 00:27:50.57\00:27:52.53 Collegedale Tennessee, 37315 00:27:52.53\00:27:56.30 Call us at (423) 413-7321, 00:27:56.30\00:28:00.81 or visit our website at Jesus4asia.org. 00:28:00.81\00:28:04.55 May God richly bless you 00:28:04.55\00:28:06.31 until we see you next time on Jesus for Asia Now. 00:28:06.31\00:28:09.18 (soft music) 00:28:09.18\00:28:11.62