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- Hello, and welcome
to Jesus for Asia Now.
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I'm Natalie Wood,
and my husband, Jon,
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is here with me today.
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And we get to talk about
how to reach an entire country.
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Hello, love.
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- Hi, darling.
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How are you today?
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- I'm doing great.
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- You're looking good.
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Sorry. - Sorry.
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(laughing)
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- You're looking
good, I like your outfit.
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- Oh, thank you.
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This is a gift from our friends
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that we're gonna share
about their project today.
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- Oh, and this shirt is a
gift from that country also.
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- Yes, so what project
are we talking about today?
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- Well, honey,
this project is one
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of the most impactive
projects that we have.
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- Wow.
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- Well, instead of
telling you about it,
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I have a little
video that I want show you.
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And this kind of
introduces you to the country,
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to the scope of the project,
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and to the solution to
reaching that many people.
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- Okay.
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(upbeat music)
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Wow, 264 million people.
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- Yes, 17,508 islands.
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- Wow, are all
of those inhabited?
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- Not all of them, about
6,000 islands are inhabited.
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- That's still a lot,
6,000 is still a lot of islands.
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- Oh, yeah, it's a huge number.
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And they're spread...
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From the East to
the West is bigger,
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they're spread
out in a bigger area,
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than the entire United States.
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It's about 3,000 miles
from one end to the other
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and the United
States is about 2,500.
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So it's a huge territory.
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- [Natalie] Yeah.
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- And it's a little confusing
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because the islands are...
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I mean, the country is
made up of all these islands.
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It's not like a
continent like Australia
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or India where you've
got a single landmass.
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This is 17,000 landmasses.
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And it kind of
blends into the Philippines
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and kind of
blends into Malaysia.
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And it kind of blends
into the Solomon Islands,
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New Guinea, Australia,
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that whole area is
kind of like this mix.
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And it's hard to get
a grasp of what it is.
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So we've got the picture
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or the video outlines
the country of Indonesia.
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- Alright, so we've
got that picture up now.
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- [Jon] Yeah, you can
see like, for instance,
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one of the the the center island
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and kind of in the upper part
in the center, that's Borneo.
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- [Natalie] Okay.
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- [Jon] And you can see
that the country doesn't go
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or the yellow line doesn't
go around the entire island.
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- [Natalie] Uh huh.
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- [Jon] The north side of
that island is actually part
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of Malaysia which is on
the peninsula over to the left.
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And also it has a couple other
countries in there as well.
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- [Natalie] Wow.
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- So it's confusing.
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You can see of course, up
to the upper top in the center,
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you've got, a little
bit to the right of center,
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you've got,
that's the Philippines.
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- [Natalie] Right.
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- So you can see how
it all blends together.
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And then the
continent and the bottom right,
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you can see that's Australia,
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the northern part of Australia.
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And then on the
far right of Indonesia,
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you can see this, like
the islands cut in half.
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- Right.
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- The eastern part of
that is Papa New Guinea.
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- [Natalie] Right.
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- Okay, so the island is Papua,
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but the eastern
side is like New Guinea.
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So it's kind of hard to
grasp what Indonesia is,
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but it's this huge
conglomerate of 17,000 islands.
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- Wow, wow. (laughs)
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And there's a lot of
variety. - [Jon] Yes.
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- I mean, with that
much diversity in landmass,
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there's got to
be a lot of variety.
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- Huge amount of variety,
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variety in just the topography.
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Some beautiful stuff like
this terraced rice fields.
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I got to go and visit
some of these rice fields
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and just blown away with
the beauty that's there and,
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you know, very
agrarian at the way of life,
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they still plant by hand,
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they still harvest by
hand, maintain it by hand,
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build those terraces by hand.
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But with all
these different islands,
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you can imagine there's
a lot of different tribes,
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a lot of different cultures.
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And there's not
obviously highways
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to every inhabited island
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because it's all water.
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- [Natalie] Right.
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- This is just a standard shot,
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when you're
driving down the road.
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It's beautiful, green,
luxurious forest around
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with these cities here
and there as you drive.
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And there's a lot of,
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I mean, a 264 million people.
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It's a very inhabited,
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one of the most densely
inhabited countries in the
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world, especially the central
island of Java, where Jakarta,
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the main city is.
- Where Jakarta is.
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- [Jon] Yeah,
very densely populated.
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- Okay.
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I think we've got
a picture of Jakarta.
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- Yes. - [Natalie] Awesome.
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- Coming up
later. - [Natalie] Okay.
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- But you can see with
this tribal lady and her son.
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You've got the modern, cheek,
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western style, downtown family.
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And then you've got the
people that live in the jungle.
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You've got people that are
still with the old traditions,
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the old tribal ways
and stuffs like that.
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You've got a
large variety of people.
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- Yeah.
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- The common language is Bahasa.
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- Okay.
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- Okay, not only
is Bahasa spoken.
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In the Indonesia, it's
the national language there
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but it's also
spoken in Malaysia.
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- Right, and there's
many Bahasa speaking people
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in other
countries around the world.
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- Yeah, sure.
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So just in the
satellite footprint,
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it covers all of
Indonesia and Malaysia.
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So you're talking
almost 300 million people,
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almost the entire
population of the United States,
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is covered by
this one satellite.
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- Wow.
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- But it was only these islands,
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you've got a huge amount
of distance between churches,
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you can imagine.
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- Right, and I'm sure
there's a lot of unreached areas
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where there
aren't even churches.
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- No church, no missionary,
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no believer, no witness.
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- Wow.
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- And so for them
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to learn about the
gospel takes a huge investment.
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Somebody that's willing to go,
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somebody that finds out about
the needs, that where it is,
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and then to
sponsor them to go there
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and provide for
their living expenses,
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transportation
expenses, everything like that.
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But with the satellite,
you're covering all of it,
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all at the same time.
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- Right.
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- And so it's
penetrating in the areas
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that would
normally also be closed
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to Christian outside influences.
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- Right.
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Nobody could go there
as a Christian missionary.
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- And not really
witness. - [Natalie] Right.
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- I mean they could
but it's a risky endeavor.
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- All right.
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- And many people
wouldn't listen to them.
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Just because they
see you, who they are,
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see them walking,
they'll close the door.
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- All right.
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- Now we have a
project in Indonesia
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that they are
training and sending out--
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- Letter to evangelists?
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- Uh huh, and
they're having great success.
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- Wow.
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- But you can imagine even
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where 10 or 20
letter to evangelists,
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how're you gonna
reach 6,000 islands?
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How long will that take?
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- Right, right, right.
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- Well, in actuality
we find that we need both.
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We need the air
force and the ground force.
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- Right.
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- And so when we work
together, it's very impacting.
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This is what we
discovered in India of course.
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- Right, right.
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- Now it's easy to talk
about the numbers and the--
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- The big picture
kind of? - [Jon] Yeah.
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- You know, the whole country.
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- (laughs) Yeah all the islands
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but it's important also
to remember the individual.
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- [Natalie] Right.
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- You know the one person,
that's so important to Christ.
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- [Natalie] Right.
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- He would've come to this
earth, suffered for 33 years
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and died on the
cross for just one.
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- Right.
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- And so if that one know...
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I first came to
Indonesia back in 2007.
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And I have to tell you a
little bit of that story.
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- Yeah but first,
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you're in somewhere very close
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to close to Indonesia, that
we just talked about already,
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for the first five
years of your life.
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- Yes.
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- You were in Papua New Guinea.
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- That's true.
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- And so then, when
you went there in 2007--
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- Uh huh
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- What, it felt like?
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- I felt like coming back home.
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- Yeah.
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- You know, when I
was two months old,
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my mom and dad took me to
New Guinea (murmurs) highlands
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where it was green,
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it rained every
single day at five o'clock.
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It was just so beautiful
and green and home for me.
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Then we moved to California,
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grew up throughout
my life in California,
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where it's dry all the time.
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And you know, I love California
but it's so different.
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So when I went back
to Indonesia, it's like,
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"Whoa, this feels right."
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It rains everyday, it's
green, there's lots of water.
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And I looked at
the map, it's like,
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"Oh yeah, it's same as where
I spent the first five years
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"of my life."
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- Right.
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- But the people
are very friendly.
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I just fell in
love with the country.
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- Right, so you're
gonna share maybe a story from
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that trip with us?
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- Yeah.
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When I first got in...
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I flew in and got in
about 11:30 at night.
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I had to fill out the
paper work for the visa.
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Then I came out midnight,
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everybody was gone
except there's like seven
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or eight taxi drivers.
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- Wow.
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- And they're like,
"Where do you wanna go?"
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Well, I had purposely
not made any connections,
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or made any plans
of what I was gonna do
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and where I was gonna
go when I get to Indonesia
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'cause I wanted an adventure.
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- Okay.
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- I wanted to experience
this kind of raw with planning.
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So I went there and
I'd learned one thing,
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I'd learned Jalan Jasa.
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- Okay.
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- Which is like
the tourist backpack
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or tourist street
of Jakarta. - Okay.
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- So I told them I
wanna go to Jalan Jasa.
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And so they said, "It's gonna
be like about 50,000 rupiahs.
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I'm like, "Oh wait,
that's like seven dollars."
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(laughs) So he took
me down to Jalan Jasa
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and then he says,
"Where do you wanna stay."
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I'm like, "I don't
have anything planned."
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He says, "Okay, I'll
take you to the best."
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And so he took me
down to this little street
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and it was packed so
it didn't have any room.
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So the one right next to it
was four dollars for the night.
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- Wow.
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- And it was a bit of a dive.
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The fan is going clank,
clank, clank, clank all night.
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There's no air-conditioning
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and the fan went out
halfway through the night.
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So the next morning I
moved to the best hotel,
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which was a big increase
in price to seven dollars.
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- Okay, wow.
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- (laughs) Fell in
love with the place.
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I went from there, went
all the way to another city
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where they're having
this university, met a friend,
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or somebody there that took
me around that was videotaping,
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getting it stocked for a family
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that had lived for
many years in that country.
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Wanted stock footage so
that they can start the ministry
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to serve that country.
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Anyway, so I spent two weeks
there, traveled all around,
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had the most
amazing experiences.
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The people are friendly,
people are open, just loved it.
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This is Raymond.
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He is the director and
founder of the TV satellite,
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well along with his wife.
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And here he was praying
with one of the viewers.
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And they had to drive
like six or seven hours,
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just to meet this viewer.
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And he came to the
knowledge of Jesus Christ
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through this satellite ministry.
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- Wow, praise the Lord.
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- Oh yeah, they're getting
all these kinds of testimonies,
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and when this is
from all over the country,
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many of them, they
haven't gone to visit
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because it's almost
impossible to get there.
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- Right.
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They have to take,
you know, drive hours
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and then take boat or take a bus
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or even some of them in
airplane and then a boat
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or it's just a
long, a lotta travel.
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- Right, it could take
several days to get there.
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- [Natalie] Right.
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- And then
several days to get back.
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- Right.
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So how long has this satellite
program been on the air.
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- Okay, so it started
in the spring of 2011.
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- Okay.
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- So, it's been on
quite a number of years.
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- Right.
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- So we have a really
good record of the impact
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that it's having
across the whole nation.
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And this is one of the
challenges that we have
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because we're in a place
up until now there's been,
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very a select number of donors
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that have been
supporting the satellite.
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And the way the world
economy has been shifted,
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they have or no
longer able to keep up.
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And so just in
the last week or two,
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we've had reports that
they might go off the air.
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- Right, because
they were getting
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for the behind on the payments.
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- Yeah, and--
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- They hadn't been
able to make payments
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for the last few months.
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And so the satellite company
was like, "Give us money,
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"get off the air,
these are the choices."
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- [Jon] Right.
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- So they were
getting to the point
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where they were discouraged.
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- [Jon] Right.
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- And they were
asking, "Lord, what do we do?"
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You know, they've
seen fruits from this,
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they've seen
lives changed from this,
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they've had so many
reports of lives changed.
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And yet they were discouraged,
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they had no way to
pay the bills and had--
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- Yeah, you
know, I've never seen--
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- And Lord are you
done with this too?
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You know, that's
kinda what they are asking,
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"Lord, are you
done with this too?"
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'Cause they'd done
everything they can
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to reach all of Indonesia.
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- Right, right, right.
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And you know, I've
rarely seen anyone go through
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as much opposition
as they've gone through.
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You know, whenever
you try to do satellite...
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We found them and
we've seen others as well,
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try to media that seems like
setting a special fight that.
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- Right.
00:14:39.04\00:14:40.38
- And so they've gone
through just tremendous...
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They used to live a
very comfortable lifestyle.
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- Right, and some of
our viewers may remember
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hearing their testimony.
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- [Jon] Yes.
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They've been on our show before.
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- [Jon] Yes.
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- And so it's just today
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we wanna focus on the satellite,
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because it deserves
to be thought about.
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- [Jon] Yeah yeah.
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- The value and the possibility,
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the opportunity that we
have here needs to be shared.
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- Right, I mean honestly, if
that signal went off the air,
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I would not sure I
can live with myself.
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Because now there are
people, there are families,
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there are individuals,
there's congregations out there
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that this their church.
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- Right.
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- They don't have a pastor,
they don't have a church.
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And so this is their church,
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this is the way
their spiritually fed
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and it's physical off the air.
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Then their left high and dry.
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- Right.
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- And so there's no reason
for this to go off the air.
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- Right.
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- It's a very inexpensive
way to reach the entire country.
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- Right, I mean we
were calculating it.
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We broke it down by hour, I
mean that's the simplest way.
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And by hour is
10 dollars an hour.
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- Yeah, that includes--
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- To cover the entire country.
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- Yeah, that
includes the satellite signal
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and production costs.
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10 dollars an
hour to have a signal
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that covers total,
almost 300 million people,
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6,000 inhabited islands,
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17 or 18,000 islands including
Malaysia and Indonesia.
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I mean plus the certain
part of the Philippines.
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You got a lotta
coverage out there.
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- [Natalie] Right.
00:16:20.88\00:16:21.68
- A lotta bank for the buck.
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I mean, very few
people today are even willing
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to work for 10 bucks an hour.
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- Right.
00:16:26.98\00:16:27.98
(laughs)
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That's true.
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- And here you can
reach a huge amount
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of the world's
population for 10 bucks an hour.
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- Yeah, wow.
00:16:34.86\00:16:35.92
(laughs)
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- So it's like we
can't let this thing go,
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we can't let this thing go.
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Not only does it
support people out...
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I mean I know some churches
that have a bigger budget,
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monthly budget
than this satellite
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and this satellite reaching
an entire 300 million people.
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- [Natalie] Right.
00:16:55.31\00:16:56.68
- Of course, yet it's not
gonna reach that many people
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because you need a
satellite down link
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in order to receive the signal.
00:17:01.75\00:17:04.05
- Right, but there's that
many people who could reach,
00:17:04.05\00:17:07.92
if they have a down link or
if they have a receiving dish.
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- [Jon] Or a friend.
00:17:12.23\00:17:13.23
- [Natalie] Right.
00:17:13.23\00:17:14.30
- Yeah, so the
statistics are out
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that there is 17 to
20 million households
00:17:16.23\00:17:20.07
that have this dish.
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So you'll say in that country,
00:17:21.90\00:17:24.21
an average of five
people per household.
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You're talking 100 million
people that could potentially...
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Let say call them
potential viewing audience.
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- Right, and then
what they're producing,
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they also put it
on the YouTube channel
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so that is readily
available for people.
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And so then it's not just who
might just watch by satellite
00:17:41.72\00:17:45.69
but it's also who's
gonna watch by YouTube later.
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But the satellite is
so important especially
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for those that don't
have access to a church
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and don't have access to--
00:17:55.54\00:17:57.07
- [Jon] Internet.
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- You know, the
internet, exactly
00:17:58.17\00:17:59.04
- I mean
there's places out there
00:17:59.04\00:17:59.84
that still don't get internet.
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- Right, and they
satellite. - [Jon] Yeah.
00:18:01.91\00:18:03.61
- But they don't have internet.
00:18:03.61\00:18:04.75
- Oh satellite is
like a leapfrog technology.
00:18:04.75\00:18:07.08
The other thing is
00:18:07.08\00:18:08.65
that they're doing the Zoom
bible studies in the evening.
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They got two to 300
people joining them online,
00:18:12.55\00:18:16.52
doing bible studies,
interactive bible studies.
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- Wow, nice.
00:18:20.56\00:18:22.03
- And so this television,
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this satellite is
grown into all these.
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And there's other
ministries they do also.
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Health ministries,
they do bicycling ministries
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with the super rich
in downtown Jakarta.
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I mean it's
just really developed
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but this is the main thing.
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We can't let this go,
we cannot let this go.
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- Right.
00:18:41.95\00:18:43.02
- And, yeah.
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Here is some more
shots of the country.
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You can imagine
what 17,000 islands
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is gonna be some beach shots,
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this isn't the
most beautiful beach,
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they've got some amazing white
sandy beaches in Indonesia.
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But you can see here where near,
00:19:00.40\00:19:03.41
there's a drone
shot off of one island.
00:19:03.41\00:19:05.37
You can see they're
going out into the open ocean.
00:19:05.37\00:19:07.34
You can see way way
way over the horizon,
00:19:07.34\00:19:09.64
there's another (murmurs) okay.
00:19:09.64\00:19:12.41
This is how far apart
some of these islands are.
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You know, it's like,
that's not an easy drive
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to church in the morning.
00:19:18.22\00:19:19.05
- No, no. (laughs)
00:19:19.05\00:19:20.89
They'll take all your morning
or more taking across that.
00:19:20.89\00:19:23.29
- Yeah all day.
00:19:23.29\00:19:24.63
This the shot...
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Now, we're just
going through that video
00:19:26.49\00:19:27.30
that we saw at the beginning.
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We're gonna show that
video again at the end.
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We're just going
through shot by shot.
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Just kind of like...
00:19:32.47\00:19:33.87
'Cause each shot that I
put there, it has meaning to me
00:19:33.87\00:19:36.54
and it
represent something that--
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- Is important.
00:19:40.64\00:19:41.58
- Yeah, exactly.
00:19:41.58\00:19:42.91
So here's another little
town, that's a typical town,
00:19:42.91\00:19:45.25
you can see the satellite
dish in the bottom left corner.
00:19:45.25\00:19:48.95
Okay, so there is one
of our viewers right there.
00:19:48.95\00:19:52.29
And as a family, they're in
the town at middle or nowhere.
00:19:52.29\00:19:56.32
- Right.
00:19:56.32\00:19:57.39
- Again, back to the
individual, the people,
00:19:57.39\00:20:00.50
that's what it's all
about, the individual.
00:20:00.50\00:20:02.53
It's a great technology
but it's the individual
00:20:02.53\00:20:06.40
that really matters.
00:20:06.40\00:20:07.57
- Yeah, it's true.
00:20:07.57\00:20:09.37
- Again, more
beautiful, amazing scenery.
00:20:09.37\00:20:12.57
My heart just soars when
I see some of these shots.
00:20:12.57\00:20:15.24
And here is the
city, the city of Jakarta,
00:20:15.24\00:20:18.18
huge number of people there.
00:20:18.18\00:20:20.15
You know, how do
you knock on some
00:20:20.15\00:20:22.22
of those high-raised doors.
00:20:22.22\00:20:23.32
- [Natalie] You don't.
- [Jon] Gated community.
00:20:23.32\00:20:25.09
- [Natalie] Yeah,
they have a doorman,
00:20:25.09\00:20:26.69
they codes, security
codes, you can't get in.
00:20:26.69\00:20:29.89
- But this is
another secret of satellite,
00:20:29.89\00:20:32.69
and our viewers of course,
00:20:32.69\00:20:34.50
are watching us on possibly
on satellite technology.
00:20:34.50\00:20:38.53
They'll understand
that this is a technology
00:20:38.53\00:20:41.27
that even though it's
mass, it's very personal,
00:20:41.27\00:20:44.14
very one-on-one, very intimate.
00:20:44.14\00:20:45.67
And it can go behind
closed doors, gated communities,
00:20:45.67\00:20:48.54
it can go into the
living room of somebody,
00:20:48.54\00:20:51.31
that's a secret that
wouldn't be caught there talking
00:20:51.31\00:20:55.68
to a Christian.
00:20:55.68\00:20:57.75
- Right, right, right.
00:20:57.75\00:20:59.62
Or not alone
going to the church.
00:20:59.62\00:21:00.82
- [Jon] Yeah.
00:21:00.82\00:21:01.62
- That's not gonna happen.
00:21:01.62\00:21:03.02
- And so this is a
powerful tool to come in
00:21:03.02\00:21:06.19
and connect with
people that are true seekers.
00:21:06.19\00:21:10.40
One of the most amazing
stories that I heard that Sandy
00:21:10.40\00:21:14.67
and Raymond told me when
they were on the show here,
00:21:14.67\00:21:17.17
was this lady was a Buddhist.
00:21:17.17\00:21:19.97
And she was asking Buddha,
"Please show me the true God.
00:21:19.97\00:21:24.71
"I want to find the true God.
00:21:25.61\00:21:27.65
"Are you the true God
or who's the true God."
00:21:27.65\00:21:30.09
And she prayed this for
many nights and one night,
00:21:30.09\00:21:32.55
she had a dream.
00:21:32.55\00:21:33.96
And in her dream, she saw
an image of Buddha come to her,
00:21:33.96\00:21:37.89
and tell her, "Jesus
Christ is the true God."
00:21:37.89\00:21:41.00
- Wow.
00:21:41.00\00:21:42.53
- And she says, "But
that's the Christian's God?"
00:21:42.53\00:21:45.33
And Buddha says, "Yes,
but he's the true God."
00:21:45.33\00:21:48.04
And so she
contacted our satellite.
00:21:48.04\00:21:51.31
She found our
satellite on her TV
00:21:51.31\00:21:53.11
and she learned
about the Christian God
00:21:53.11\00:21:55.94
through that satellite channel.
00:21:55.94\00:21:58.08
- Wow. (laughs)
00:21:58.08\00:21:59.31
Yeah, that's such a blessing.
00:21:59.31\00:22:01.05
- It's an amazing story,
00:22:01.05\00:22:03.35
I mean it doesn't
fit into the normal--
00:22:03.35\00:22:05.29
- Yeah, a kind of mind tweak.
00:22:05.29\00:22:06.89
- Yeah, the normal normal
mode of what you'd expect Christ
00:22:06.89\00:22:09.76
but he'll use any methods
to meet people where they are.
00:22:09.76\00:22:12.73
- Right, right, to
bring them to truth.
00:22:12.73\00:22:14.50
- Yes, exactly.
00:22:14.50\00:22:16.36
Now this is the
family, Raymond and Sandy.
00:22:16.36\00:22:19.50
They used to be quite
wealthy but very unhappy.
00:22:19.50\00:22:22.70
Now, they are quite poor.
00:22:22.70\00:22:24.84
They've been quite poor
for quite a number of years
00:22:26.17\00:22:29.21
but they're happy.
00:22:29.21\00:22:30.58
They have their family together,
00:22:30.58\00:22:31.95
they have their happiness,
just a wonderful testimony.
00:22:31.95\00:22:34.22
- Yeah, they're
serving God as a family.
00:22:34.22\00:22:36.42
- [Jon] Yeah.
00:22:36.42\00:22:37.55
- And they found so
much blessing there.
00:22:37.55\00:22:39.09
- [Jon] Uh huh.
00:22:39.09\00:22:40.12
- That is just
great, they just beam.
00:22:40.12\00:22:41.52
- Yeah, it wasn't long ago that
00:22:41.52\00:22:43.19
we were at a youth
conference with them.
00:22:43.19\00:22:46.76
And they were the main speakers
00:22:46.76\00:22:48.56
and they gave
workshop, breakout sessions.
00:22:48.56\00:22:52.37
- [Natalie] Yeah.
00:22:52.37\00:22:53.60
- So they preach
like five hours a day.
00:22:53.60\00:22:55.00
- Yeah.
00:22:55.00\00:22:56.24
- For like four days
straight and at the end,
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they were going
with this much power
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and strength and passion
as they did when they started.
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- Because God was in it.
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- Yeah, God is in...
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This is what--
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- Because it's for God.
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Because it's from God.
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- [Jon] Yeah.
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- And it's all
wrapped up in God,
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giving them the
strength to that.
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- Yeah, and now they
all have these testimonies
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of God coming
through and working for them.
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So I know God is in
that ministry, yeah.
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- Well, let's
watch that video again
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with maybe a little more
awareness of what we're saying.
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- Okay.
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(upbeat music)
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They're beautiful. - Yeah.
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- So inspiring. - Yeah.
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And what an opportunity we
have to share in a mass scale.
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You know, we have to
pray for there to be workers
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for people where
they can connect with.
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Church members around
them and actual people
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that they can talk to
because it's that so vital
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to our Christian experience
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and to our work through this
world to connect with people
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but to send the seeds.
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- [Jon] Yes.
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- And especially to places
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where there is no other witness.
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- Yeah, and that's the key
with the satellite ministry,
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is that...
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It's a seed-planting ministry.
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- Right.
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- You'll see
little bit of return
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but you're not gonna see
the return that's actually
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that you're gonna see
it at the second coming.
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- Right.
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- We will never
know who has impacted,
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at what time in their lives,
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by this kinda
ministry until then.
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- Right, and so we're really...
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This is really an opportunity
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to store up treasure in heaven.
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- Yes, yes.
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- Because we
won't see the result.
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And we will hear
stories like this lady
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that found the satellite
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because of Buddha
telling her in the dream.
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But we won't see 100,000 baptism
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or 100 baptisms
even necessarily.
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But God knows what's going
on and he's using those seeds
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to reaching to every
single life that watches this.
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And who knows when
he brings things to mind
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that they've seen on it,
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what they even saw might
be some passing sentence.
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And he just uses it to
reach them, what an opportunity.
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- Yeah, and we're gonna
get more of these testimonies
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as time goes by.
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- Right.
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- But then it
truly is a broadcast.
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You know, when the
sower goes out to sow,
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he doesn't put
seeds here and there.
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He takes a handful, in
the old testament times,
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bible times, and
he will scatter it.
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- Right.
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- Some will fall on good
ground, some on bad ground
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but the main thing
is that he'll scatter.
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- Right, well and even today.
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There's a lot of things
that are planted that way.
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You know, wheat and
corn are planted that way.
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Now, and our personal gardens,
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we might plant
things differently
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but grass seed is just thrown.
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And so that picture
of throwing out the seed
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and letting God be the
one who grows the plant
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and brings in the
harvest at the end is just,
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it's a beautiful picture.
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- Yes, but not only
should we send our funds
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to broadcast seed
but we really need
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to send our prayers in
the seed to open the pathway
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for the Holy Spirit to work
with that seed that's planted
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and make sure
that they get watered.
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- That's right, that's right.
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I would like to
invite you to pray
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for this satellite program.
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There is so much opportunity,
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there are so many
people that could watch
00:27:27.04\00:27:29.44
and could learn about
the beautiful love of Jesus.
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And we can see the
treasure going ahead of us
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to heaven by faith.
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If you would like to
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and you'd think about how
many people it might reach.
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You can contact
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May God richly bless you,
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until we see you next
time on Jesus for Asia Now.
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