(uplifting music) 00:00:01.63\00:00:04.53 - Hello and welcome to Jesus for Asia Now. 00:00:21.98\00:00:24.15 Today I have my friend Sharon with me, 00:00:24.15\00:00:25.99 and we're going to be talking 00:00:25.99\00:00:27.12 about her recent trip to India. 00:00:27.12\00:00:29.12 She's got some amazing stories to share, 00:00:29.12\00:00:31.06 and I know I'm looking forward to it. 00:00:31.06\00:00:33.86 Welcome to the show Sharon. 00:00:33.86\00:00:35.20 - Thank you. 00:00:35.20\00:00:36.16 - So glad you could be here. 00:00:36.16\00:00:37.20 - I'm glad to be here, thank you. 00:00:37.20\00:00:38.50 - All right, I know that you have a lot to share, 00:00:38.50\00:00:41.24 but we want to start out with what do you do 00:00:41.24\00:00:43.44 for Jesus For Asia? 00:00:43.44\00:00:45.07 - I provide administrative support, 00:00:45.07\00:00:47.31 which is anything that is not really accounting, 00:00:47.31\00:00:50.95 not production, and that big swathe in the middle 00:00:50.95\00:00:53.98 is what I get to do. 00:00:53.98\00:00:55.42 - But you also help with accounting occasionally. 00:00:55.42\00:00:57.49 - I do, I do. 00:00:57.49\00:00:58.29 - Well we appreciate you moving here to work with us. 00:00:59.79\00:01:02.59 - Thank you. 00:01:02.59\00:01:03.66 - And that's a whole other story. 00:01:03.66\00:01:04.79 - [Sharon] That is, for another episode. 00:01:04.79\00:01:06.53 - Perhaps we should tell that? 00:01:06.53\00:01:07.36 (laughs) 00:01:07.36\00:01:08.73 But what we wanna talk about today is your trip to India. 00:01:08.73\00:01:12.57 So why did you go to India? 00:01:12.57\00:01:14.07 What inspired you to go on this trip? 00:01:14.07\00:01:16.37 - Well we wanted, as a team, 00:01:16.37\00:01:18.77 to be able to collect stories first-hand 00:01:18.77\00:01:21.98 from our evening schools and our Bible workers. 00:01:21.98\00:01:24.61 And so John put together a team to go and do that. 00:01:24.61\00:01:29.22 So we were able to visit Bible workers and evening schools 00:01:29.22\00:01:32.42 and hear stories, and it was very valuable, 00:01:32.42\00:01:35.22 and we learned a lot, and we have exciting things to share 00:01:35.22\00:01:38.23 over time as we can put them together and put them out. 00:01:38.23\00:01:41.13 - Right, so what was the trip like? 00:01:41.13\00:01:43.53 Was it like you went one place and you stayed there 00:01:43.53\00:01:46.94 and you just had places you could walk to? 00:01:46.94\00:01:49.17 What was it like? 00:01:49.17\00:01:50.57 Did you do a lot of traveling where you were, or? 00:01:50.57\00:01:52.27 - Yeah, so we did, we stayed in one place for about a week, 00:01:52.27\00:01:57.25 but beyond that we were in different places as we went. 00:01:58.71\00:02:02.32 So my colleague, Christina and I, 00:02:03.18\00:02:05.02 who you interviewed already, 00:02:05.02\00:02:06.79 so be sure to watch that, great episode. 00:02:06.79\00:02:09.46 We felt very discombobulated at first, 00:02:09.46\00:02:12.83 because every night we were in a new place, 00:02:12.83\00:02:15.43 and that was a little bit difficult 00:02:15.43\00:02:16.90 to get used to the culture and the time change 00:02:16.90\00:02:19.10 and be in a different place. 00:02:19.10\00:02:20.44 - Right. 00:02:20.44\00:02:21.57 - But then we got a chance to spend time 00:02:21.57\00:02:23.61 for about a week in the Udumalpet area, 00:02:23.61\00:02:25.81 and then we moved from place to place after that. 00:02:25.81\00:02:28.31 So, it was both, yeah. 00:02:28.31\00:02:30.78 - So tell me about culture shock for you there. 00:02:30.78\00:02:33.42 Was this your first trip to India, 00:02:33.42\00:02:35.02 so everything was a surprise and everything was new? 00:02:35.02\00:02:37.69 - Well actually both. 00:02:38.49\00:02:40.32 So I have been to India three times before. 00:02:40.32\00:02:44.66 Once with a sponsoring organization for children, 00:02:44.66\00:02:48.40 and twice for work in my previous job. 00:02:48.40\00:02:51.63 And so this was my fourth trip. 00:02:51.63\00:02:53.30 But this was the first time 00:02:53.30\00:02:54.87 that I was actually with the people, 00:02:54.87\00:02:58.71 and so I saw a different side of India 00:02:58.71\00:03:00.91 than I did the previous three trips. 00:03:00.91\00:03:03.38 So I knew what to expect, 00:03:03.38\00:03:06.11 but the depth and the intensity of it 00:03:06.11\00:03:09.95 was a little bit different, 00:03:09.95\00:03:11.05 because we stayed in places 00:03:11.05\00:03:12.95 that I wouldn't have stayed before, 00:03:12.95\00:03:15.62 because of the groups that I was with. 00:03:15.62\00:03:18.09 So we saw poverty up close and personal, and stayed there. 00:03:18.09\00:03:22.33 We did not escape to a western hotel, 00:03:22.33\00:03:25.37 and so I had my first bucket bath, 00:03:25.37\00:03:28.44 and we ate at the local restaurants, 00:03:28.44\00:03:31.74 we didn't eat at the western restaurant. 00:03:31.74\00:03:33.58 And so this trip was a little different, 00:03:33.58\00:03:36.31 because I experienced more of the real Indian culture 00:03:36.31\00:03:40.28 than I had in the past. 00:03:40.28\00:03:42.12 - Wow, so it was a bit of an adjustment for you? 00:03:42.12\00:03:46.62 - Yes it was, yes it was. 00:03:46.62\00:03:48.52 - So are there any particular experiences 00:03:48.52\00:03:51.53 that stand out to you? 00:03:51.53\00:03:53.56 Anything you wanna share with us? 00:03:53.56\00:03:55.23 - So, we went to various evening schools 00:03:56.33\00:04:00.80 and met and interviewed Bible workers, 00:04:00.80\00:04:03.87 and I did want to share some of the experiences that we had. 00:04:03.87\00:04:07.78 I met a Bible worker by the name of Vimal. 00:04:07.78\00:04:11.28 And Vimal works in an area that is predominately Hindu, 00:04:11.28\00:04:16.25 and she characterizes the people as very faithful 00:04:16.25\00:04:19.65 to their religion. 00:04:19.65\00:04:21.62 So she has found a way to be able to minister to them, 00:04:21.62\00:04:26.19 and found that praying with the Hindu families 00:04:26.19\00:04:30.00 is a great way to become friends with them. 00:04:30.00\00:04:32.93 They are more than eager to have someone pray with them. 00:04:32.93\00:04:37.07 So she goes from one house to the next 00:04:37.07\00:04:39.71 and offers to pray with people, 00:04:39.71\00:04:41.88 and that's how she gets to know them. 00:04:41.88\00:04:43.81 And she met a 14 year old girl who had tuberculosis, 00:04:43.81\00:04:48.12 and this young girl's disease had progressed 00:04:48.12\00:04:51.89 to the place where she was coughing up blood. 00:04:51.89\00:04:54.02 And that means that her lungs had been damaged to this point 00:04:54.02\00:04:57.03 and the blood vessels inside her lungs had been damaged, 00:04:57.03\00:04:59.83 so that she was coughing up the blood, 00:04:59.83\00:05:02.70 and Vimal prayed for her. 00:05:02.70\00:05:05.60 And a few days later, the young girl went back 00:05:05.60\00:05:08.94 to the doctor, there was no sign of tuberculosis. 00:05:08.94\00:05:11.74 - Wow. 00:05:11.74\00:05:13.27 - And for me that's significant, 00:05:13.27\00:05:14.64 because I used to work in the tuberculosis research arena, 00:05:14.64\00:05:18.71 and tuberculosis does not spontaneously heal 00:05:18.71\00:05:22.08 without medication, months and months of medication. 00:05:22.08\00:05:25.62 So this really was an intervention of God. 00:05:25.62\00:05:27.52 - Yeah sometimes its to the point to where 00:05:27.52\00:05:29.92 it can't heal anyway, even with the medication, right? 00:05:29.92\00:05:32.69 The damage is so bad already. - Yes, absolutely, correct. 00:05:32.69\00:05:35.70 So this family was overjoyed, obviously, 00:05:35.70\00:05:38.80 because untreated tuberculosis is a death sentence 00:05:38.80\00:05:42.60 for people, and if they don't have the money 00:05:42.60\00:05:44.21 for the medication, they know they're going to die. 00:05:44.21\00:05:47.91 - Wow. 00:05:47.91\00:05:49.24 - And to have God heal her, it blew their minds, 00:05:49.24\00:05:53.11 and they all started studying the Bible together, 00:05:53.11\00:05:56.28 and the parents have already been baptized, 00:05:56.28\00:05:59.12 and the young girl is still studying, 00:05:59.12\00:06:00.69 and is going to be baptized soon. 00:06:00.69\00:06:02.56 And it's all because a little woman 00:06:02.56\00:06:04.43 went door-to-door and prayed, 00:06:04.43\00:06:06.86 and did what she could, and prayed. 00:06:06.86\00:06:08.60 - Wow, that's really neat. 00:06:08.60\00:06:10.90 Well I know that's not the only story 00:06:10.90\00:06:12.43 that you have to share with us. 00:06:12.43\00:06:14.80 - So the next story is about Sudina, 00:06:14.80\00:06:17.61 and she is one of our JFA Bible workers as well, 00:06:17.61\00:06:21.44 and this lady is 70 years old. 00:06:21.44\00:06:25.35 - Wow. 00:06:25.35\00:06:26.38 - And she has the energy of a 30-year-old. 00:06:26.38\00:06:30.02 It was hard to keep up with her. 00:06:30.02\00:06:32.02 And her area is also mostly Hindu, 00:06:32.02\00:06:36.59 but she has other religious beliefs in her community. 00:06:36.59\00:06:41.40 And she also goes out and visits. 00:06:41.40\00:06:44.07 And that's what they do, they visit. 00:06:44.07\00:06:45.53 And she met a woman and gifted her with a Bible, 00:06:45.53\00:06:48.67 and then invited her to read with her. 00:06:48.67\00:06:50.91 So the two of them began reading, 00:06:50.91\00:06:52.94 and as they read, more people started coming and joining, 00:06:52.94\00:06:56.91 and saying, "We wanna be a part of what you're doing." 00:06:56.91\00:07:00.25 And soon, Sudina had a whole group of people, 00:07:00.25\00:07:02.72 so Sudina opened her home on Saturday mornings 00:07:02.72\00:07:05.52 for what we would consider a church service. 00:07:05.52\00:07:07.99 They would get together. - Like a house church. 00:07:07.99\00:07:09.59 - Like a house church. 00:07:09.59\00:07:10.93 So they would read the Bible and they would pray. 00:07:10.93\00:07:13.23 And this group became a prayer group. 00:07:13.23\00:07:15.86 Now these were not Seventh-day Adventist, 00:07:15.86\00:07:18.67 these were a mix of religions coming together to pray, 00:07:18.67\00:07:21.94 because they believed in what Sudina was teaching them. 00:07:21.94\00:07:27.01 So the first lady that Sudina met, 00:07:28.11\00:07:29.98 the one that she gifted the Bible, 00:07:29.98\00:07:31.71 her sister began having problems with her stomach, 00:07:31.71\00:07:36.05 and she was diagnosed with a tumor, 00:07:36.05\00:07:38.89 and they say that the tumor was about this big. 00:07:38.89\00:07:41.66 It was huge. 00:07:41.66\00:07:43.06 So the prayer group got into action, and started praying. 00:07:43.06\00:07:48.16 And this sister went to the doctor, 00:07:48.16\00:07:50.27 and they scheduled an operation, 00:07:50.27\00:07:52.17 and said it would cost 150,000 rupees 00:07:52.17\00:07:56.84 in order to have the operation. 00:07:56.84\00:07:59.84 - Wow, that's a lot of money. 00:07:59.84\00:08:01.28 - That's a lot of money, and that family could not 00:08:01.28\00:08:03.48 pay 150,00 rupees. 00:08:03.48\00:08:05.55 - Yeah, just for our viewers sake, 00:08:05.55\00:08:07.48 right now the exchange rate is just under 70. 00:08:07.48\00:08:10.82 So, well actually just around 69. 00:08:10.82\00:08:14.22 So, that gives our viewers some sort of understanding. 00:08:14.22\00:08:18.33 - So it's one U.S. dollar for 69 rupees. 00:08:18.33\00:08:20.96 Right, so it's a lot of money. 00:08:20.96\00:08:23.60 For a very poor family, 150,000 rupees was huge. 00:08:23.60\00:08:27.44 - Right. 00:08:28.24\00:08:29.34 - So the prayer group got back together again, 00:08:29.34\00:08:30.47 and kept praying, and then out of the blue, 00:08:30.47\00:08:33.11 without any explanation, the doctors called the sister 00:08:33.11\00:08:36.58 and said, "We're going to only charge you 30,000 rupees." 00:08:36.58\00:08:41.38 For the whole thing. 00:08:41.38\00:08:42.75 For the operation, for the pre-op, for the post-op, 00:08:42.75\00:08:46.32 all done, 30,000 rupees. 00:08:46.32\00:08:48.69 - Wow. 00:08:48.69\00:08:49.79 - So the sister had the operation. 00:08:49.79\00:08:51.66 They were able to take the entire tumor out. 00:08:51.66\00:08:54.36 She was healing and felt better, 00:08:54.36\00:08:56.93 and she contacted Sudina and said, 00:08:56.93\00:09:00.04 "I wanna know about the God you serve, 00:09:00.04\00:09:03.44 "because my Gods were not able to help me at all, 00:09:03.44\00:09:07.94 "and your God did. 00:09:07.94\00:09:09.21 "So I wanna study the Bible with you." 00:09:09.21\00:09:11.21 - Wow. 00:09:11.21\00:09:12.05 - And that's prayer. 00:09:12.05\00:09:13.42 And that's something that's very easy for a person to do, 00:09:13.42\00:09:17.02 is just to pray. 00:09:17.02\00:09:18.12 We saw Vimal praying, and Sudina praying. 00:09:18.12\00:09:21.82 - Right, and that's, yeah, 00:09:21.82\00:09:23.76 like you said anybody can do that. 00:09:23.76\00:09:25.56 And we all can be a part. 00:09:25.56\00:09:27.13 You know, as God impresses you, 00:09:27.13\00:09:29.73 what, why would she just give some total stranger a Bible? 00:09:29.73\00:09:33.80 But God impressed her obviously. 00:09:33.80\00:09:35.77 He knew that the heart was receptive 00:09:35.77\00:09:37.87 and so the Lord was able to bless her sister. 00:09:37.87\00:09:40.58 - And she opened her home, 00:09:40.58\00:09:41.98 and so she created a safe place for people to come. 00:09:41.98\00:09:45.21 And any one of us can do the exact same thing, 00:09:45.21\00:09:48.08 and God can work through that. 00:09:48.08\00:09:49.65 - Wow, again it's just so amazing to see God heal someone 00:09:50.95\00:09:54.79 for the sake of teaching them about himself, 00:09:54.79\00:09:56.86 and raising interest in himself. 00:09:56.86\00:09:59.19 Showing his love and his character. 00:09:59.19\00:10:00.90 - The interesting thing though, 00:10:00.90\00:10:02.23 is that in the first story, God healed her completely, 00:10:02.23\00:10:05.53 by a miracle, and in this story he used physicians to do it. 00:10:05.53\00:10:09.67 And so God heals in various ways. 00:10:09.67\00:10:11.81 - Right, it's not a cookie cutter 00:10:11.81\00:10:14.94 - Right, exactly. 00:10:14.94\00:10:17.51 - Wow. 00:10:17.51\00:10:18.31 Well we wanna keep going, 00:10:18.31\00:10:19.45 'cause I know you have more stories. 00:10:19.45\00:10:21.05 So the next one. 00:10:21.05\00:10:22.32 - The next one is about Sushila, 00:10:22.32\00:10:24.92 and she's another JFA Bible worker, 00:10:24.92\00:10:27.42 and she was walking from the train to a prayer appointment, 00:10:27.42\00:10:32.49 and on the way, she met a woman who was crying, 00:10:33.63\00:10:38.47 just sad and crying. 00:10:38.47\00:10:40.47 And Sushila could have kept walking to her appointment, 00:10:40.47\00:10:44.74 but she didn't, she stopped and she asked the woman, 00:10:44.74\00:10:47.98 "What's wrong? 00:10:47.98\00:10:48.81 "Why are you crying?" 00:10:48.81\00:10:50.41 And the woman shared that she belonged 00:10:50.41\00:10:52.38 to a Christian church. 00:10:52.38\00:10:54.12 So they have a large Christian contingent in the south, 00:10:54.12\00:10:58.32 a church that's down there, a denomination. 00:10:58.32\00:11:01.96 And this woman was talking about how alone she was. 00:11:01.96\00:11:05.49 So she had no children, no husband, no parents, 00:11:05.49\00:11:08.53 and she was sick. 00:11:08.53\00:11:10.57 She was having uterine issues that needed intervention 00:11:10.57\00:11:15.27 by a physician. 00:11:15.27\00:11:16.87 And she was alone, and she was scared, 00:11:16.87\00:11:19.44 and she didn't know what to do. 00:11:19.44\00:11:21.38 So Sushila prayed for her right there, 00:11:21.38\00:11:24.11 and then gave her her phone number, 00:11:24.11\00:11:26.98 and continued on to her prayer appointment. 00:11:26.98\00:11:30.05 Later that evening, the woman did call Sushila, 00:11:30.05\00:11:33.32 and say, okay, we have the operation scheduled, 00:11:33.32\00:11:36.32 would you pray for me? 00:11:36.32\00:11:37.83 And so Sushila prayed, and then on the day of the operation, 00:11:37.83\00:11:41.70 the woman called her and said, "I am so scared. 00:11:41.70\00:11:44.03 "I have never had an operation before. 00:11:44.03\00:11:46.63 "I don't know what this is going to be like." 00:11:46.63\00:11:48.94 And Sushila prayed for her again 00:11:48.94\00:11:51.51 that the operation would go well, 00:11:51.51\00:11:53.41 and that God would be with the hands of the surgeon, 00:11:53.41\00:11:57.41 and the surgery went swimmingly well, 00:11:57.41\00:12:00.45 there were no complications. 00:12:00.45\00:12:02.05 - Wow. 00:12:02.05\00:12:03.45 - And the woman was so thankful, 00:12:03.45\00:12:06.29 but this is what impressed me about the story. 00:12:06.29\00:12:09.12 She told Sushila that she had been going to this church 00:12:09.12\00:12:12.73 and people knew what she was going through, 00:12:12.73\00:12:15.60 but no one in that church prayed for her, or with her. 00:12:15.60\00:12:20.37 - Wow. 00:12:20.37\00:12:21.77 - And she said, "I want to go to your church Sushila, 00:12:21.77\00:12:26.27 "because you're the only one who took the time 00:12:27.38\00:12:30.08 "to pray with me." 00:12:30.08\00:12:31.48 And she's now in the church as a result. 00:12:31.48\00:12:34.85 - Wow. 00:12:34.85\00:12:35.65 And that's something, you know, 00:12:35.65\00:12:36.72 we can take a lesson from that here. 00:12:36.72\00:12:39.09 People around us, that we might even see every single day, 00:12:39.09\00:12:42.42 are hurting in ways that we may not know, 00:12:42.42\00:12:44.63 or we may know, but if we don't take the time 00:12:44.63\00:12:47.23 to pray with them, we're not really helping them, 00:12:47.23\00:12:50.20 we're not buoying them up with our care and our sympathy. 00:12:50.20\00:12:55.17 - Right, and she was so alone 00:12:56.07\00:12:58.04 that she didn't know who to turn to, 00:12:58.04\00:13:00.18 and if the people you're going to church with every week 00:13:00.18\00:13:02.28 are not reaching out to help you either, 00:13:02.28\00:13:04.88 then what do you do? 00:13:04.88\00:13:06.08 And God placed Sushila right there, 00:13:06.08\00:13:09.62 and had her stop, and she listened. 00:13:09.62\00:13:12.02 Because she could have said, 00:13:12.02\00:13:13.39 "I've got to get to my appointment," 00:13:13.39\00:13:15.69 but she didn't, and as a result of 00:13:15.69\00:13:17.83 Sushila listening to God saying, "Pause," 00:13:17.83\00:13:22.03 someone was brought into the full truth, 00:13:22.03\00:13:23.90 and she's part of the church. 00:13:23.90\00:13:26.10 - Wow, what a blessing. 00:13:26.10\00:13:27.47 What a blessing. 00:13:27.47\00:13:28.80 I love these Bible workers. 00:13:28.80\00:13:30.54 They are so amazing. 00:13:30.54\00:13:31.97 - They are, they really are. 00:13:31.97\00:13:33.54 They work night, they work day, it's amazing what they do. 00:13:33.54\00:13:37.01 - So again, God helped her to see somebody that needed help, 00:13:38.58\00:13:43.65 and she was willing to stop 00:13:44.45\00:13:46.05 and talk to her and pray with her. 00:13:46.05\00:13:48.26 Wow. 00:13:48.26\00:13:49.29 - Because we never know when God gives us, 00:13:49.29\00:13:52.33 you know, speak to this person, or stop and talk to them, 00:13:52.33\00:13:56.33 share this with them. 00:13:56.33\00:13:57.83 We don't know what's going on behind the scenes, 00:13:57.83\00:13:59.80 and we may feel uncomfortable and say, 00:13:59.80\00:14:01.84 "Oh that person, I don't wanna bother them." 00:14:01.84\00:14:04.97 - I don't know them. 00:14:04.97\00:14:06.37 - But God knows, and God knew that this woman 00:14:06.37\00:14:09.48 was in a position to hear the truth, 00:14:09.48\00:14:12.95 because she was so lonely, 00:14:12.95\00:14:14.72 and God was meeting that need for her. 00:14:14.72\00:14:16.79 - Right, and you know another thing that I think 00:14:16.79\00:14:19.09 that we can remember, is that we get so busy sometimes 00:14:19.09\00:14:22.52 that we're just rushing to the next thing, 00:14:22.52\00:14:24.73 and she could very easily have been caught by that as well, 00:14:24.73\00:14:28.30 you know, rushing to the appointment, 00:14:28.30\00:14:30.60 and I just wanna say, we need to slow down, 00:14:30.60\00:14:33.60 so that we can have to stop and do what God asks us to do. 00:14:33.60\00:14:37.61 - Exactly, yeah that's a powerful lesson. 00:14:37.61\00:14:40.71 - That really came out of this story to me. 00:14:40.71\00:14:42.71 All right, well I know we're not done with your stories yet. 00:14:44.15\00:14:46.41 I know you have a lot more than you're going 00:14:46.41\00:14:47.85 to share today as well, 00:14:47.85\00:14:49.08 but we're just grabbing the few minutes 00:14:49.08\00:14:51.45 that we have to share. 00:14:51.45\00:14:53.12 So the next one is about somebody that you got to meet 00:14:53.12\00:14:56.83 and witness with. 00:14:56.83\00:14:58.16 - Yes, so during the time that we were in India, 00:14:58.16\00:15:01.46 we actually had drivers hired to drive us around, 00:15:01.46\00:15:05.63 because the India traffic is crazy, 00:15:05.63\00:15:08.90 if anyone has been there, 00:15:08.90\00:15:10.44 and it was much safer to have an experienced driver 00:15:10.44\00:15:14.21 who knows how to get around, to work with us, 00:15:14.21\00:15:17.78 rather than one of us trying to drive the van 00:15:17.78\00:15:21.18 that we had acquired to move the equipment 00:15:21.18\00:15:24.25 and the team around. 00:15:24.25\00:15:25.75 So we had a total of four drivers, 00:15:25.75\00:15:28.09 but I wanted to talk about the first one, 00:15:28.09\00:15:29.96 and his name is Selva Kumar, 00:15:29.96\00:15:32.43 and he was a young man, very quiet, he was a Hindu boy, 00:15:32.43\00:15:37.47 and he was very good at driving, 00:15:38.27\00:15:42.50 but he didn't interact that much with us, 00:15:42.50\00:15:46.27 just got in the car, where are we going, drove. 00:15:46.27\00:15:50.08 But he had been with us long enough that over time, 00:15:50.08\00:15:52.75 we would ask questions through Israel Prisad, 00:15:52.75\00:15:55.45 our director in India, 00:15:55.45\00:15:57.15 who was sitting in the front seat with him, 00:15:57.15\00:15:59.42 and we would direct questions, 00:15:59.42\00:16:01.02 and just ask personal questions, 00:16:01.02\00:16:03.02 and over time Selva Kumar opened up to us. 00:16:03.02\00:16:07.13 'Cause we are a force to be reckoned with 00:16:07.13\00:16:08.86 and so it's very difficult to stay quiet. 00:16:08.86\00:16:11.27 - We will be your friend. 00:16:11.27\00:16:12.57 - That's right, we will be your friend. 00:16:12.57\00:16:13.70 And we included him when we would stop somewhere, 00:16:13.70\00:16:16.64 if we were traveling for the day 00:16:16.64\00:16:19.14 and we stopped somewhere to eat, 00:16:19.14\00:16:20.48 we would bring him to the table with us and include him. 00:16:20.48\00:16:24.95 And he became-- 00:16:24.95\00:16:26.31 - Which is unusual. 00:16:26.31\00:16:28.08 That is unusual. 00:16:28.08\00:16:29.15 - [Sharon] Yeah it is. 00:16:29.15\00:16:30.22 - The driver's expect that they're gonna 00:16:30.22\00:16:31.02 go eat somewhere else, or-- 00:16:31.02\00:16:32.59 - Right, right, right. 00:16:32.59\00:16:34.42 So he got to see a lot of what we do. 00:16:34.42\00:16:38.03 And we went to one village, Amaravathi, 00:16:38.03\00:16:41.73 which there will be an entire show about Amaravathi, 00:16:41.73\00:16:44.50 and I don't wanna spoil it for the viewers, 00:16:44.50\00:16:46.37 because it's a fabulous story, 00:16:46.37\00:16:49.24 but we did not know that our driver was from Amaravathi. 00:16:49.24\00:16:54.31 - Wow. 00:16:54.71\00:16:55.51 - And we found out later. 00:16:55.51\00:16:56.88 He actually got out of the van while we were there 00:16:56.88\00:17:00.35 and wandered through the village with us, 00:17:00.35\00:17:02.68 and the picture that's being shown 00:17:02.68\00:17:04.99 is of him sitting in the village. 00:17:04.99\00:17:08.26 And he saw us interacting with the people. 00:17:08.26\00:17:11.83 He saw us making friends. 00:17:11.83\00:17:13.33 He saw us, he listened to the interviews 00:17:13.33\00:17:16.93 that we were doing of the evening school, 00:17:16.93\00:17:19.47 teacher and cook there. 00:17:19.47\00:17:21.60 And Israel told us a couple of days later 00:17:21.60\00:17:24.41 that Selva Kumar was very impressed with us, 00:17:24.41\00:17:28.08 because he said that nobody goes to Amaravathi. 00:17:28.08\00:17:31.51 No westerners go, very few church people go, 00:17:31.51\00:17:35.82 it's an out-of-the way place, 00:17:35.82\00:17:37.49 which you will, the viewers will see in the episode. 00:17:37.49\00:17:40.96 And it really touched his heart. 00:17:40.96\00:17:43.79 And a few days later, we wanted to bless the village 00:17:43.79\00:17:48.30 with some mats and blankets. 00:17:48.30\00:17:50.67 And I was praying that Selva Kumar would be there, 00:17:50.67\00:17:55.04 because it was his area, 00:17:55.04\00:17:57.21 and I wanted him to be a part of this. 00:17:57.21\00:18:00.28 Well Sunday morning, the morning that we were going to go, 00:18:00.28\00:18:03.71 there was a new driver sitting in the van, 00:18:03.71\00:18:07.48 and I was very sad that we had a new driver. 00:18:07.48\00:18:11.02 I was expecting Selva Kumar to be there, 00:18:11.02\00:18:13.02 but Israel said that Selva Kumar needed to go to a wedding, 00:18:13.02\00:18:17.63 and so he was not going to be our driver. 00:18:17.63\00:18:21.03 - Wow. 00:18:21.03\00:18:22.40 - I was very sad, but I prayed throughout the day 00:18:22.40\00:18:24.40 that God would open the door somehow 00:18:24.40\00:18:26.20 for Selva Kumar to be there, 00:18:26.20\00:18:27.77 because I was sure that that's where he needed to be. 00:18:27.77\00:18:31.07 Later in the afternoon, Selva Kumar actually called Israel 00:18:31.07\00:18:34.34 and said, "I wanna come, and I will meet you there." 00:18:34.34\00:18:38.55 So we were all excited, 00:18:38.55\00:18:39.88 and by the time we got there in the evening 00:18:39.88\00:18:41.88 to hand out the blankets and the mats, Selva Kumar came. 00:18:41.88\00:18:46.02 And not only did he join us, 00:18:46.82\00:18:48.66 but he joined in blessing the families, 00:18:48.66\00:18:51.93 and that made such a huge impact on him. 00:18:51.93\00:18:54.73 He was so happy to be there, 00:18:54.73\00:18:57.37 and the picture, you can see him standing behind John, 00:18:57.37\00:19:01.50 smiling as he's grabbing the next bundle to hand out 00:19:01.50\00:19:06.04 to a family. 00:19:06.04\00:19:08.78 And unfortunately, that was the last day we saw Selva Kumar. 00:19:08.78\00:19:12.75 He had other things he had to do, 00:19:12.75\00:19:15.28 we moved on from the area, we had a new driver, 00:19:15.28\00:19:18.89 and I didn't get a chance to talk to Selva Kumar after that, 00:19:18.89\00:19:22.66 but a few weeks ago, Israel texted me 00:19:22.66\00:19:26.26 and said that he had been back in the area, 00:19:26.26\00:19:28.30 and actually connected with Selva Kumar. 00:19:28.30\00:19:30.87 And that Selva was having some family issues 00:19:30.87\00:19:33.97 and wanted prayer. 00:19:33.97\00:19:35.94 So Selva is interested in hearing more about the God 00:19:35.94\00:19:40.41 that he witnessed acting on behalf of the village. 00:19:40.41\00:19:44.41 So we don't know what that story is going to be like. 00:19:44.41\00:19:47.32 I was part of the middle of Selva Kumar's story, 00:19:47.32\00:19:50.45 not the end. 00:19:50.45\00:19:51.55 But I'm looking forward in heaven, 00:19:51.55\00:19:53.62 to getting to hear the rest of the story 00:19:53.62\00:19:55.39 from Selva Kumar himself. 00:19:55.39\00:19:57.46 - Wow, that just... 00:19:57.46\00:19:59.39 - I know. 00:20:00.23\00:20:01.56 (laughs) 00:20:01.56\00:20:02.40 - Sorry. 00:20:02.40\00:20:03.90 That just really touches me, 00:20:03.90\00:20:05.27 because it's so easy to pass by people, you know? 00:20:05.27\00:20:09.80 You ride in a taxi somewhere, 00:20:09.80\00:20:11.54 or you're even on a train or something, 00:20:11.54\00:20:13.91 and you pass by people, you pass by so many people 00:20:13.91\00:20:16.88 without interacting with them, 00:20:16.88\00:20:19.05 and sometimes God wants to touch their lives through us. 00:20:19.05\00:20:22.12 - Yeah. 00:20:22.12\00:20:23.39 - And that's such a blessing, it's such a privilege 00:20:23.39\00:20:24.79 to be a part of touching somebody else's life. 00:20:24.79\00:20:27.49 - Yeah, so, yeah. 00:20:27.49\00:20:29.12 I was very, we were all very happy. 00:20:29.12\00:20:31.53 He was like family by the time we were done. 00:20:31.53\00:20:34.63 - Yeah, wow. 00:20:34.63\00:20:36.93 All right, so now we have another story. 00:20:36.93\00:20:39.67 - Right, we do. 00:20:39.67\00:20:40.77 We have a story about Santosh, 00:20:40.77\00:20:43.71 who is the son of one of our JFA Bible workers. 00:20:43.71\00:20:48.64 And Santosh is a businessman. 00:20:48.64\00:20:51.61 And he owns DM Engineering, just outside of Coimbatore, 00:20:51.61\00:20:56.25 and they make very large hydraulic machinery. 00:20:56.25\00:21:00.56 And their company is a Sabbath-keeping company, 00:21:00.56\00:21:05.46 and he closes the business down on Friday evening 00:21:06.80\00:21:10.60 and Saturday. 00:21:10.60\00:21:11.97 And here in the United States, that may not be a big deal, 00:21:11.97\00:21:15.50 but in India that's a big deal, 00:21:15.50\00:21:17.74 because most people are off on Sundays. 00:21:17.74\00:21:20.38 So Sunday has become the family day 00:21:20.38\00:21:23.65 where families go and visit other family, 00:21:23.65\00:21:27.15 or they take a trip, or they just hang out at home, 00:21:27.15\00:21:31.62 and the workers who work at DM Engineering 00:21:31.62\00:21:34.59 are mostly Hindu, and they were not happy 00:21:34.59\00:21:38.09 when they first started, 00:21:38.09\00:21:39.83 because they had to work on Sundays, 00:21:39.83\00:21:42.16 and they wanted to be home with their family. 00:21:42.16\00:21:44.40 But Santosh works really hard there 00:21:45.63\00:21:49.10 in this very small company to make sure 00:21:49.10\00:21:52.24 that the workers are treated well, 00:21:52.24\00:21:54.61 that their pay is well, that their benefits are well, 00:21:54.61\00:21:58.71 and God has blessed this company. 00:21:58.71\00:22:01.42 It is a very small manufacturing plant, 00:22:01.42\00:22:05.22 and yet they do business globally. 00:22:05.22\00:22:08.12 This little company in Coimbatore, India 00:22:08.12\00:22:12.49 has orders from Europe, from Egypt, from Africa, 00:22:12.49\00:22:17.53 because they're honoring God. 00:22:18.43\00:22:21.77 And over time, the workers have really come to appreciate 00:22:21.77\00:22:26.31 what they have there, and they are happily joining in 00:22:26.31\00:22:30.48 on Sundays, and they use Saturday now as their day 00:22:30.48\00:22:34.72 to be with their families. 00:22:34.72\00:22:36.45 And Santosh brings his father, the Bible worker, 00:22:36.45\00:22:39.62 in a couple of times a week to pray with the men. 00:22:39.62\00:22:42.79 And that has been a huge blessing for the men, 00:22:42.79\00:22:47.40 to be able to have someone that they can talk to. 00:22:47.40\00:22:51.80 And so the businesses around 00:22:51.80\00:22:54.67 have slowly gone out of business. 00:22:54.67\00:22:57.34 You'll see a picture of the drone shot of the area. 00:22:57.34\00:23:02.31 There are a number of businesses there, 00:23:03.41\00:23:04.55 but only DM Engineering is still alive and well, 00:23:04.55\00:23:08.72 because God is blessing. 00:23:08.72\00:23:10.05 - Praise the Lord. 00:23:10.05\00:23:12.12 Well I know that this affected you a lot in different ways, 00:23:12.12\00:23:16.49 this trip. - Yes, yes. 00:23:16.49\00:23:17.79 - And I know the last story, 00:23:17.79\00:23:20.00 we wanna get to your last story, 00:23:20.00\00:23:21.30 because we're running out of time very quickly. 00:23:21.30\00:23:24.30 So share with us your last story. 00:23:24.30\00:23:25.83 - Last story. 00:23:25.83\00:23:27.50 The last story, I don't have any pictures of, 00:23:27.50\00:23:31.54 but it's about a man that I saw. 00:23:31.54\00:23:34.44 When we were driving in the van, 00:23:34.44\00:23:36.78 I would look out the window at the passing scenery 00:23:38.08\00:23:41.52 and the villages, and I would pray for the villages 00:23:41.52\00:23:45.32 on my side of the road. 00:23:45.32\00:23:46.86 Christina was on the other side of the van 00:23:46.86\00:23:49.32 and she was on that side of the road 00:23:49.32\00:23:50.46 and I was on this side of the road, 00:23:50.46\00:23:51.56 and I would pray for the villages, 00:23:51.56\00:23:53.73 and the people that I saw, 00:23:53.73\00:23:55.76 because I had no idea if anyone would ever be there. 00:23:55.76\00:24:00.64 And we were heading back to Coimbatore, 00:24:00.64\00:24:03.04 and we were getting ready the next day to leave 00:24:03.04\00:24:06.51 to go to Chennai, 00:24:06.51\00:24:08.84 and there is a road, a major road around Coimbatore, 00:24:08.84\00:24:12.81 kind of like a beltway that we would think of 00:24:12.81\00:24:14.78 here in the United States, 00:24:14.78\00:24:16.52 and as we were approaching the northeast corner, 00:24:16.52\00:24:18.69 and I was looking out the window and praying for people, 00:24:18.69\00:24:22.66 I noticed a construction site. 00:24:22.66\00:24:24.99 And what caught my eye is that the men 00:24:24.99\00:24:28.50 were picking up these heavy blocks by themselves. 00:24:28.50\00:24:31.80 There was no machinery moving the blocks. 00:24:31.80\00:24:34.87 They were picking up the blocks from a pile 00:24:34.87\00:24:37.21 and walking them down to where they were going to be used. 00:24:37.21\00:24:41.51 And one of the men that was there, he was older, 00:24:41.51\00:24:45.18 and he was crippled in his right foot, 00:24:45.18\00:24:48.32 and it looked like he was wearing an invisible high-heel. 00:24:48.32\00:24:51.72 He was only able to walk on the ball of that foot. 00:24:51.72\00:24:54.92 And there he was struggling to carry the blocks 00:24:54.92\00:24:59.59 from the pile to the end. 00:24:59.59\00:25:01.86 He was doing as best he could, 00:25:01.86\00:25:03.90 but it was a struggle for him. 00:25:03.90\00:25:05.87 And I looked at him and the thought 00:25:05.87\00:25:09.54 that came to my mind so strongly was, 00:25:09.54\00:25:13.27 who was going to go and tell this man about Jesus? 00:25:13.27\00:25:17.55 Who was going to tell this man 00:25:17.55\00:25:19.15 who's struggling with this job, 00:25:19.15\00:25:21.85 and wanting to put food on the table, 00:25:21.85\00:25:24.82 and he looks so tired and so stressed, 00:25:24.82\00:25:27.99 no peace, no joy, just walking from place to the next 00:25:27.99\00:25:32.19 with these heavy bricks, 00:25:32.19\00:25:33.26 who's going to tell him about Jesus? 00:25:33.26\00:25:35.46 And I burst into tears in the van, 00:25:35.46\00:25:38.10 thinking that this man could very well go to his grave 00:25:38.10\00:25:41.27 with no one telling him about the Father who loved him. 00:25:41.27\00:25:46.21 And that what's impacted me the most on this trip, 00:25:46.21\00:25:50.25 is seeing the faces of the people with no hope. 00:25:50.25\00:25:54.78 You would walk, drive down the street, walk down the street, 00:25:56.18\00:25:59.82 many people, many many people, 00:25:59.82\00:26:02.79 it's crowded streets and roads, 00:26:02.79\00:26:04.73 and everyone just had this look of despair with no hope. 00:26:04.73\00:26:09.30 Until you would get to a evening school, 00:26:09.30\00:26:11.50 where the children have learned about Jesus, 00:26:11.50\00:26:13.40 and their eyes are bright, and their faces are happy, 00:26:13.40\00:26:17.71 or you look into the eyes of the Bible workers that we saw, 00:26:17.71\00:26:20.84 where they have the joy of sharing Jesus with people. 00:26:20.84\00:26:23.71 The ones who know Jesus are the ones with the joy, 00:26:23.71\00:26:26.45 and everyone else is so sad, and no hope. 00:26:26.45\00:26:31.02 And that's what we have here. 00:26:31.02\00:26:33.15 We know this. 00:26:33.15\00:26:34.66 We have this hope, but they don't, 00:26:34.66\00:26:37.86 and they have no way of finding it 00:26:37.86\00:26:39.53 unless someone goes and tells them. 00:26:39.53\00:26:41.73 - Wow. 00:26:41.73\00:26:43.20 What an impactful moment. 00:26:43.20\00:26:46.74 Quick snap picture in your mind's eye, 00:26:46.74\00:26:49.57 'cause you didn't take any pictures, but-- 00:26:49.57\00:26:50.67 - I didn't, we were driving. 00:26:50.67\00:26:52.54 - You will not forget that. 00:26:52.54\00:26:54.54 - [Sharon] No. 00:26:54.54\00:26:55.64 - That's happened to me before as well. 00:26:55.64\00:26:56.85 It's just something that, 00:26:56.85\00:26:58.68 you get a glimpse into God's longing, 00:26:58.68\00:27:02.42 into his heart for these people, 00:27:02.42\00:27:05.35 and it's really a blessing to have that, 00:27:05.35\00:27:09.22 and it increases the burden for the lost as well. 00:27:09.22\00:27:13.36 - Yeah, it really does. 00:27:13.36\00:27:15.50 - Wow, well I really appreciate you 00:27:17.07\00:27:19.17 taking the time to share with us today. 00:27:19.17\00:27:20.94 It's been a real blessing. 00:27:20.94\00:27:22.27 - Thank you. 00:27:22.27\00:27:23.20 I've enjoyed it. 00:27:23.20\00:27:24.21 - I would like to invite you, as our viewers, 00:27:25.47\00:27:27.84 to get involved in these Bible workers lives. 00:27:27.84\00:27:30.81 To help bring hope to people like that old man. 00:27:30.81\00:27:35.12 That you can pray for them, you can be a part, 00:27:35.12\00:27:38.45 and if you would like to sponsor the Bible workers, 00:27:38.45\00:27:40.56 you can contact us at 00:27:40.56\00:27:41.86 Jesus for Asia, PO Box 1221, Collegedale, TN 37315. 00:27:41.86\00:27:46.96 Call us at (423) 413-7321. 00:27:48.76\00:27:53.17 Or visit our website at Jesus4asia.org. 00:27:53.17\00:27:56.94 Please join us in praying for these Bible workers, 00:27:56.94\00:27:59.51 and for hope to be brought 00:27:59.51\00:28:01.38 to the millions that don't know Jesus. 00:28:01.38\00:28:04.05 May God bless you richly until we see you next time 00:28:04.05\00:28:06.92 on Jesus For Asia Now. 00:28:06.92\00:28:08.35 (uplifting music) 00:28:09.15\00:28:12.05