(inspiring orchestral music) 00:00:00.80\00:00:04.67 - Hello, and welcome to Jesus for Asia Now. 00:00:22.08\00:00:24.59 I'm Natalie Wood. 00:00:24.59\00:00:26.15 Today I have Kasey Norton, 00:00:26.15\00:00:28.16 and we're going to be talking about 00:00:28.16\00:00:29.59 how God is leading her family 00:00:29.59\00:00:31.89 into full-time service in Thailand. 00:00:31.89\00:00:34.83 Hi Kasey, welcome to the show. 00:00:34.83\00:00:36.50 - Hi! 00:00:36.50\00:00:37.70 - It's such a privilege to have you here, 00:00:37.70\00:00:38.90 - Thank you. 00:00:38.90\00:00:40.14 - and talk about how God is leading. 00:00:40.14\00:00:41.67 I know it's been quite a process already for you all. 00:00:41.67\00:00:45.54 (laughs) 00:00:45.54\00:00:47.21 - That's for sure. (laughter) 00:00:47.21\00:00:48.74 - So we wanna start with how did you become interested 00:00:48.74\00:00:51.81 in going to Thailand, or I dunno, 00:00:51.81\00:00:54.18 maybe in your personal experience, 00:00:54.18\00:00:55.92 you wanna start even before that 00:00:55.92\00:00:57.59 where God started preparing your heart 00:00:57.59\00:00:59.75 for mission service at all. 00:00:59.75\00:01:02.02 - Yeah, I was not interested at all in mission service. 00:01:02.02\00:01:05.26 My husband comes from a missionary family, 00:01:05.26\00:01:08.40 and he has been interested for years. 00:01:08.40\00:01:11.67 And I had, you know, I just said no. 00:01:12.73\00:01:15.77 Back in July, I started, 00:01:17.24\00:01:21.41 we had a series of meetings at our church, 00:01:21.41\00:01:24.38 and I started to walk around the perimeter of our house, 00:01:24.38\00:01:28.85 praying every morning for about an hour. 00:01:28.85\00:01:31.29 And I was basically dedicating our family 00:01:31.29\00:01:36.36 and our house, our property, our cars, everything to God. 00:01:37.76\00:01:42.10 We have been seeing, 00:01:44.30\00:01:45.60 especially as our kids have gotten older, 00:01:45.60\00:01:47.10 how, sort of, the world is pulling at them. 00:01:47.10\00:01:50.91 And so I pretty much just promised God 00:01:50.91\00:01:54.61 that I would do whatever he asked, 00:01:54.61\00:01:57.21 if it would bring healing, 00:01:59.15\00:02:00.48 and I was claiming the promise in 2 Chronicles 7:14, 00:02:00.48\00:02:04.39 and then your ministry came to our church in September, 00:02:05.79\00:02:10.69 and I was pretty appalled 00:02:10.69\00:02:13.46 that I could sit and listen to the stories 00:02:13.46\00:02:15.53 and I felt nothing. 00:02:15.53\00:02:16.90 Like, I didn't have any kind of emotional response 00:02:16.90\00:02:21.04 to what you were saying. 00:02:21.04\00:02:22.97 I was praying about that. 00:02:25.34\00:02:27.41 You know, why? 00:02:27.41\00:02:28.21 What is missing in my experience 00:02:28.21\00:02:30.51 that I can listen to other people who are dying 00:02:30.51\00:02:33.92 who know nothing about Jesus? 00:02:33.92\00:02:35.78 So the last meeting, we went to, 00:02:37.85\00:02:41.02 I think it was the Sabbath afternoon meeting. 00:02:41.02\00:02:43.36 I don't even remember, 00:02:46.36\00:02:48.10 honestly I don't remember what it was about, 00:02:48.10\00:02:49.70 but I felt this, 00:02:49.70\00:02:52.93 I dunno, I sensed that God was asking us to do something. 00:02:54.37\00:02:58.37 And so, I said something to Hannah, my daughter, 00:02:58.37\00:03:01.64 in the car on the way home. 00:03:01.64\00:03:02.61 We were driving separate cars. 00:03:02.61\00:03:03.95 And when we got home, Robby and I passed in the living room, 00:03:03.95\00:03:07.25 and I said, I feel like we're supposed to go, 00:03:07.25\00:03:09.78 and he was like, yeah, me too. 00:03:09.78\00:03:12.05 And that was all it was. 00:03:12.05\00:03:13.52 And we ended up, you know, deciding to pray about it, 00:03:15.39\00:03:17.99 sort of put out a prayer fleece, 00:03:17.99\00:03:19.36 which was very, very clearly answered. 00:03:19.36\00:03:22.80 I didn't, the desire didn't come from me. (laughs) 00:03:24.63\00:03:28.54 - Wow. 00:03:28.54\00:03:29.64 So how has this affected your life 00:03:29.64\00:03:32.51 and the lives of your children? 00:03:33.71\00:03:35.64 I mean, as a mom. 00:03:35.64\00:03:37.05 How many children do you have? 00:03:37.05\00:03:38.48 - We have eight. 00:03:38.48\00:03:39.68 - Okay. - Yeah. 00:03:39.68\00:03:40.78 - So how has this affected your lives? 00:03:40.78\00:03:43.65 - I feel like in every aspect, 00:03:43.65\00:03:48.02 it's affected everybody differently. 00:03:48.02\00:03:50.06 So obviously, the preparation to go is, you know, 00:03:51.63\00:03:56.67 total upheaval to our lives as we know it. 00:03:57.87\00:04:00.74 But also realizing that in order to be able to be used 00:04:00.74\00:04:05.27 that we need to truly be entering 00:04:05.27\00:04:08.51 into personal experiences with Christ now, 00:04:08.51\00:04:11.71 not waiting until we get there. 00:04:11.71\00:04:15.08 And I think redefining what missionary actually means. 00:04:16.45\00:04:21.36 And then helping each of the kids sort of navigate that 00:04:23.39\00:04:27.23 on a personal level. 00:04:27.23\00:04:28.83 - Right. 00:04:28.83\00:04:29.83 'Cause you have children from what age? 00:04:29.83\00:04:32.00 - 21, our oldest is 21. 00:04:32.00\00:04:34.50 We have a 21 year-old, a 20 year-old, and an 18 year-old, 00:04:34.50\00:04:37.77 all boys, 00:04:37.77\00:04:39.17 and then a 15 year-old and a 14 year-old girl, two girls, 00:04:39.17\00:04:42.51 and then three younger boys, twin seven year-olds 00:04:42.51\00:04:45.88 and a four year-old. 00:04:45.88\00:04:47.05 So yeah, all of the ages. 00:04:47.05\00:04:49.08 - That's a broad range of ages. 00:04:49.08\00:04:51.22 - Yes. (laughs) 00:04:51.22\00:04:52.59 - And I'm sure with each of them it's very different. 00:04:52.59\00:04:54.22 - Yeah, and it's different from day to day. 00:04:54.22\00:04:56.49 'Cause the girls were very excited initially, 00:04:56.49\00:05:00.20 and then as they've gone through it, 00:05:00.20\00:05:02.63 what that looks like, 00:05:05.13\00:05:06.50 walking them through it has changed dramatically. 00:05:06.50\00:05:08.80 - And the realization of what's changing 00:05:08.80\00:05:11.64 is becoming more real. 00:05:11.64\00:05:12.74 - Yeah, more what they're leaving. 00:05:12.74\00:05:14.38 They're excited about what they're going to, 00:05:14.38\00:05:16.38 and they're very hesitant about what they're leaving behind. 00:05:16.38\00:05:20.38 - Yeah, friends and family. 00:05:20.38\00:05:22.18 That's the hardest thing, I think. 00:05:22.18\00:05:23.18 - Yeah, very hard. 00:05:23.18\00:05:24.65 - So are all the children going with you to Thailand? 00:05:26.02\00:05:28.39 - Not initially. 00:05:28.39\00:05:30.26 When we first go, it'll be the younger six, 00:05:30.26\00:05:33.83 so from 18 years old down. 00:05:33.83\00:05:35.93 And the 18 year-old has committed to six months, 00:05:37.07\00:05:40.64 so we'll see what that looks like after six months time. 00:05:40.64\00:05:44.91 - Right, wow. 00:05:44.91\00:05:46.57 So it's very different for every child. 00:05:46.57\00:05:48.51 So you're constantly praying, I'm sure, for wisdom. 00:05:48.51\00:05:51.31 - Yes, because it's difficult for the ones who aren't going. 00:05:51.31\00:05:53.85 Their lives are changing dramatically too 00:05:53.85\00:05:55.58 because we won't be right there. 00:05:55.58\00:05:56.85 And you know, I think there's some grieving for them 00:05:56.85\00:05:59.12 because they feel like they're losing their family. 00:05:59.12\00:06:02.86 - Yeah, when my husband goes, especially for a long time, 00:06:04.36\00:06:07.30 I'm always so thankful for Skype and for FaceTime now, 00:06:07.30\00:06:10.50 and stuff like that, where we can see each other, 00:06:10.50\00:06:13.13 you know, and talk. 00:06:13.13\00:06:14.90 It's such a blessing, it's a privilege. 00:06:14.90\00:06:17.57 I mean, we've been reading about Hudson Taylor, 00:06:17.57\00:06:20.21 and they didn't have any of that. 00:06:20.21\00:06:21.58 They had to write a letter and then wait, you know, 00:06:21.58\00:06:24.31 sometimes three months was the cycle 00:06:24.31\00:06:25.98 for the letter to get home and a reply to be written 00:06:25.98\00:06:28.02 and get back to them. 00:06:28.02\00:06:29.82 We're so privileged. 00:06:29.82\00:06:31.32 It's hard. - Definitely a good time 00:06:31.32\00:06:32.29 - It's definitely hard. - to be going. 00:06:32.29\00:06:34.12 - But it's definitely 00:06:34.12\00:06:35.29 a blessing. - Hard in a different way. 00:06:35.29\00:06:36.42 - Right, it's definitely a blessing that it's now 00:06:36.42\00:06:39.03 when there's more technology to help with those things. 00:06:39.03\00:06:41.83 So it's really made a lot of changes now, 00:06:42.93\00:06:46.30 as a mother, and seeing what your kids are going through, 00:06:46.30\00:06:49.20 I'm sure that's... (laughs) 00:06:49.20\00:06:51.77 - It's changed everything. 00:06:51.77\00:06:53.14 It's changed what we're doing in our home school, 00:06:53.14\00:06:55.14 what we talk about at worship every, I dunno, 00:06:56.54\00:07:01.35 it's seeping into everything, 00:07:01.35\00:07:03.15 which is sad, that it took making this decision to go 00:07:03.15\00:07:05.79 for that to happen. 00:07:05.79\00:07:07.16 But I think we're going as much to save ourselves 00:07:07.16\00:07:11.39 as to help anybody else. 00:07:11.39\00:07:13.29 - Okay. 00:07:14.23\00:07:15.03 Now, I was gonna ask you, 00:07:15.03\00:07:16.00 have you had challenges along the way? 00:07:16.00\00:07:18.13 I mean, aside from the experiences within the family, 00:07:18.13\00:07:21.74 figuring out what is being gained and lost, 00:07:21.74\00:07:24.47 what about challenges, you know? 00:07:25.47\00:07:27.18 Is it easy road or hardships, or... 00:07:27.18\00:07:30.58 - The obstacles that we had in the way, God has cleared, 00:07:30.58\00:07:34.22 just one after the other, 00:07:34.22\00:07:36.02 in such a way that we couldn't choose 00:07:36.02\00:07:39.59 to do anything different. 00:07:39.59\00:07:40.99 We would, he's proven himself so clearly 00:07:40.99\00:07:44.59 that it would be absolute disobedience 00:07:44.59\00:07:47.36 for us to change our minds now. 00:07:47.36\00:07:49.16 - Wow, so you know that he has arranged 00:07:49.16\00:07:53.37 each of these answers. 00:07:53.37\00:07:54.44 Wow. 00:07:54.44\00:07:55.70 - We had, most of our obstacles have been financial. 00:07:55.70\00:07:57.87 We, right now, make less than probably we ever have, 00:07:57.87\00:08:02.41 and with more monthly expenses because of kids in college, 00:08:03.78\00:08:08.75 and just, the kids are older and they cost more. 00:08:11.39\00:08:15.49 And we've been able to pay off all of our medical debt, 00:08:15.49\00:08:20.56 which we had considerable debt 00:08:21.33\00:08:22.43 because of one of our seven year-olds. 00:08:22.43\00:08:25.57 And a vehicle that we wanted to give to one of our sons 00:08:25.57\00:08:30.64 who isn't going, 00:08:31.17\00:08:31.97 and we weren't sure, you know, 00:08:31.97\00:08:34.14 you can wanna give a gift sometimes 00:08:34.14\00:08:36.01 and it's not necessarily good for the person 00:08:36.01\00:08:37.61 you wanna give it to. 00:08:37.61\00:08:38.41 So we prayed and asked God 00:08:38.41\00:08:40.52 to help us find a way to pay it off 00:08:40.52\00:08:44.49 so we didn't have to sell it to get out from under it. 00:08:44.49\00:08:47.26 And we would use that-- 00:08:49.19\00:08:50.26 - To know that you were supposed to give it. 00:08:50.26\00:08:51.79 - Right. 00:08:51.79\00:08:53.43 And so, Robby dropped it off at the dealer, 00:08:53.43\00:08:56.56 an auto-body repair place for an estimate 00:08:58.23\00:09:00.54 because we were gonna fix just some, it wasn't wrecked, 00:09:00.54\00:09:03.64 but we were gonna some exterior body damage. 00:09:03.64\00:09:06.51 And they totaled it. 00:09:06.51\00:09:08.24 The insurance company totaled the vehicle, 00:09:08.24\00:09:10.91 which, it's not wrecked, it's not, you know, 00:09:10.91\00:09:13.35 terrible body damage. 00:09:13.35\00:09:14.92 There's no reason for it to be totaled, 00:09:14.92\00:09:16.82 but it got completely paid off. 00:09:16.82\00:09:18.72 And you know, that doesn't happen. 00:09:18.72\00:09:20.66 So it's just been-- 00:09:20.66\00:09:21.76 - So does it have a salvage title now? 00:09:21.76\00:09:23.63 - No, in fact, that's what they said, we could buy it back. 00:09:23.63\00:09:27.03 It was gonna be $500. 00:09:27.03\00:09:28.53 We had no money at that point. 00:09:28.53\00:09:30.73 And by the time we got off the phone, 00:09:32.90\00:09:34.47 I think it was $150 to buy the car back. 00:09:34.47\00:09:37.61 And they said, that particular make and model of vehicle, 00:09:37.61\00:09:40.14 they don't issue salvage titles for, 00:09:40.14\00:09:41.98 so it has just a normal title. (laughs) 00:09:41.98\00:09:46.85 - Well that's like, you never hear of that. 00:09:46.85\00:09:49.32 - No! 00:09:49.32\00:09:50.45 And that's what it's been the whole time. 00:09:50.45\00:09:51.82 So all of those obstacles, we haven't worked hard, 00:09:51.82\00:09:54.12 we haven't had to work hard to get to where we can go. 00:09:54.12\00:09:57.19 And I think the harder part has just been 00:09:58.79\00:10:00.93 fielding questions, 00:10:00.93\00:10:02.46 and people who, you know, who care about us 00:10:02.46\00:10:06.67 and our children have just questioned the wisdom 00:10:06.67\00:10:10.07 of what we're doing. 00:10:10.07\00:10:11.21 That's been harder. 00:10:11.21\00:10:12.51 - Mmm. 00:10:12.51\00:10:13.94 So this has done what for your faith walk? 00:10:13.94\00:10:18.15 - Um. (laughs) 00:10:18.15\00:10:19.38 I think it has introduced me to what it is 00:10:19.38\00:10:22.58 to even have faith 00:10:22.58\00:10:24.82 because if I were left to myself to make the decision 00:10:24.82\00:10:29.82 whether to keep going forward or to just be like, 00:10:29.82\00:10:34.30 never mind, this was a crazy idea, 00:10:34.30\00:10:36.26 I would totally abandon it. 00:10:37.40\00:10:38.77 But knowing that God is asking something of you 00:10:38.77\00:10:42.80 and that he, no matter what we're giving up, 00:10:42.80\00:10:45.61 he's got something better planned for us. 00:10:47.31\00:10:49.94 And that grows my faith, 00:10:49.94\00:10:51.45 really digging into scripture so that we can help our kids 00:10:52.91\00:10:55.85 has definitely, helping them has helped me. 00:10:57.35\00:11:00.69 And so, God is so creative how he uses the people 00:11:00.69\00:11:03.83 that he puts in our lives to grow us. 00:11:03.83\00:11:06.29 But yeah, so it totally, just totally different experience 00:11:06.29\00:11:11.33 right now. 00:11:11.87\00:11:12.27 - Wow. 00:11:12.27\00:11:13.40 Now, I know you have a blog that you've been, 00:11:13.40\00:11:15.40 you're a writer, and you enjoy that. 00:11:15.40\00:11:17.97 And so you've had this blog for a while. 00:11:17.97\00:11:20.81 Do you wanna share any of that journey with our viewers? 00:11:20.81\00:11:24.38 - It's funny to me, 00:11:25.45\00:11:26.78 when I see something that I wrote a long time ago 00:11:28.15\00:11:30.45 and I know where I was when I wrote it, 00:11:30.45\00:11:32.59 and I feel like a fraud, like, I wrote that? 00:11:32.59\00:11:35.76 Having that sort of, almost a journal 00:11:37.56\00:11:41.13 to look back on, - Yeah, kind of a record. 00:11:41.13\00:11:43.13 - Yeah. 00:11:43.13\00:11:44.27 It's almost embarrassing to me to see. 00:11:44.27\00:11:46.70 But I know that God accepts us in each phase that we're in, 00:11:46.70\00:11:50.71 and so, you know, he's not hiding his face, 00:11:50.71\00:11:54.48 like I just wanna, I don't, I don't wanna see that stuff. 00:11:54.48\00:11:56.91 - Yeah, he's not ashamed of you. 00:11:56.91\00:11:58.61 - Right, he's okay with the path that we take, 00:11:58.61\00:12:00.98 and the progress. 00:12:00.98\00:12:02.15 But the writing has been good because 00:12:03.82\00:12:06.32 I think sometimes things that I internalize, 00:12:07.39\00:12:10.63 writing about it helps me-- 00:12:10.63\00:12:12.66 - [Natalie] Process, maybe? 00:12:13.73\00:12:14.56 - Yeah, yeah. 00:12:14.56\00:12:15.60 That's a good word, yeah, process the things 00:12:15.60\00:12:17.63 that I don't even know are going on up there. 00:12:17.63\00:12:20.64 - Okay, 'cause they come out 00:12:20.64\00:12:21.97 - Yeah, in writing for me. - Through the fingers. 00:12:21.97\00:12:25.21 - I can't talk about it. 00:12:25.21\00:12:26.47 If I try to tell you something that I'm gonna write, 00:12:26.47\00:12:28.24 it won't come out. 00:12:28.24\00:12:29.51 - Wow, that's neat. 00:12:29.51\00:12:31.51 That's a talent too - (laughs) 00:12:31.51\00:12:32.91 - That God has given. 00:12:32.91\00:12:34.25 We'll look forward to hearing your stories then. 00:12:34.25\00:12:37.12 - Yeah! (laughs) 00:12:37.12\00:12:38.69 - From over there. 00:12:38.69\00:12:39.79 - I'm excited to share from over there. 00:12:40.82\00:12:44.23 - Now, when Robby went, 'cause he got to go 00:12:44.23\00:12:47.36 after you decided that this was the direction 00:12:47.36\00:12:50.20 that God was leading you, 00:12:50.20\00:12:51.30 he got to go and see everything. 00:12:51.30\00:12:53.27 How was that for you being at home, 00:12:53.27\00:12:55.60 knowing that he's scouting out the land 00:12:55.60\00:12:57.71 and you're just gonna have to do it vicariously. 00:12:57.71\00:13:00.18 How was that for you? 00:13:00.18\00:13:02.14 - I think it was good because I tend to want to try to, 00:13:02.14\00:13:06.51 I mean, if I'm just being honest, 00:13:07.85\00:13:09.35 I like to, I'm a female, I like to control my environment. 00:13:09.35\00:13:14.26 I'm the one raising the kids, so a lot of times, 00:13:14.26\00:13:17.06 I'm the one that's making a lot of the decisions. 00:13:17.06\00:13:19.93 So something as big as moving to another country 00:13:19.93\00:13:23.97 and not even being able to see it 00:13:23.97\00:13:25.37 and just trusting that God is leading Robby. 00:13:25.37\00:13:29.07 I think it was good for me. 00:13:29.07\00:13:30.27 I wanted to go. 00:13:30.27\00:13:31.54 But setting aside the need to control everything, 00:13:33.04\00:13:38.11 I think that's one part of this process (laughs) for me. 00:13:40.08\00:13:44.65 - A growth experience. 00:13:44.65\00:13:45.75 - Yeah. 00:13:45.75\00:13:46.79 And he came back with so many pictures 00:13:46.79\00:13:48.42 and detailed reports of what he saw and did over there. 00:13:49.79\00:13:53.03 So I'm very comfortable with, (laughs) 00:13:53.03\00:13:56.40 with where we're going. 00:13:56.40\00:13:57.50 - Wow, well praise the Lord. 00:13:57.50\00:13:59.57 So there was an experience, I know, 00:13:59.57\00:14:01.27 that was challenging for you on several different levels. 00:14:01.27\00:14:04.97 Do you wanna share that with us? 00:14:04.97\00:14:06.64 - Back at the beginning of the year, 00:14:07.81\00:14:10.05 I had agreed to meet one of my sons for dinner. 00:14:10.05\00:14:14.98 He'd been really struggling with some things, 00:14:16.22\00:14:18.85 and I felt strongly that I needed to go. 00:14:19.99\00:14:23.12 I was sick. 00:14:23.12\00:14:24.63 But I went. 00:14:24.63\00:14:25.99 I got in the car, and as soon as I got in the car, 00:14:25.99\00:14:28.56 I started praying, 00:14:28.56\00:14:29.66 number one, 'cause I felt so terrible, 00:14:29.66\00:14:31.40 but also because I felt like it was such an important... 00:14:31.40\00:14:36.47 - Time in his life, maybe? 00:14:37.84\00:14:38.97 - Yeah. 00:14:38.97\00:14:40.18 And I didn't want, you know, 00:14:40.18\00:14:42.88 you can be an overbearing mother. 00:14:43.91\00:14:44.98 He's 20, or at the time, he was still 19, 00:14:44.98\00:14:47.52 but I wanted to offer advice without being pushy. 00:14:47.52\00:14:52.09 So I was praying. 00:14:52.09\00:14:53.42 I got only a minute or so into the drive, 00:14:53.42\00:14:56.96 and my body just felt like lead, 00:14:56.96\00:15:00.50 everything, I couldn't move, 00:15:00.50\00:15:02.40 to try to move my leg to work the pedals 00:15:04.37\00:15:07.40 because I was driving a stick, was, it just felt impossible. 00:15:07.40\00:15:11.94 My thought was that maybe I was sicker that what I realized, 00:15:13.27\00:15:16.41 but you know, I didn't have this feeling at all before then. 00:15:16.41\00:15:20.92 And so, I kept driving, and I would tell, 00:15:20.92\00:15:23.65 like, as I was on the mountain, 00:15:23.65\00:15:24.75 we live on a mountain and as I was going down, 00:15:24.75\00:15:27.79 when you get to the bottom of the mountain, 00:15:27.79\00:15:29.12 you can pull over and sleep, which is such a bizarre thought 00:15:29.12\00:15:31.96 because I would never pull over and sleep. 00:15:31.96\00:15:35.40 I got to the bottom and I couldn't pull over. 00:15:35.40\00:15:38.23 I was physically unable to. 00:15:38.23\00:15:40.67 So I pulled onto the road 00:15:40.67\00:15:42.27 that leads into town, 00:15:43.94\00:15:45.44 and the feeling, 00:15:45.44\00:15:47.61 I dunno if it really intensified or it just didn't let up, 00:15:48.91\00:15:51.71 but just felt wooden. 00:15:51.71\00:15:53.55 So there's gas stations up ahead, 00:15:55.48\00:15:56.85 and I, again, I was like, I'll just get to the gas station 00:15:56.85\00:15:59.59 and you can pull over. 00:15:59.59\00:16:00.72 And I was having these weird thoughts 00:16:00.72\00:16:02.39 that if you pull over, 00:16:02.39\00:16:03.46 you're never gonna make it to meet your son. 00:16:03.46\00:16:07.23 They're gonna find you unconscious in your vehicle, 00:16:07.23\00:16:10.50 just really bizarre, 00:16:10.50\00:16:11.83 and I knew, like, I knew that what I was thinking 00:16:11.83\00:16:15.67 was weird, 00:16:15.67\00:16:16.81 but I couldn't do anything about it. 00:16:16.81\00:16:18.77 - You couldn't control your thoughts. 00:16:18.77\00:16:20.11 - So I took the last turn into town, 00:16:20.11\00:16:22.58 and there was this voice in my head. 00:16:22.58\00:16:25.81 It sounded like, at the time, 00:16:25.81\00:16:28.18 it sounded like it was my own voice talking. 00:16:28.18\00:16:32.65 And it just was saying, 00:16:32.65\00:16:34.52 throw yourself into the oncoming traffic. 00:16:34.52\00:16:37.09 I panicked at that point. 00:16:38.43\00:16:40.03 And I got my phone and I got a hold of Robby. 00:16:40.03\00:16:42.56 I don't know what he heard. 00:16:43.70\00:16:45.73 I wish that I could tell what my voice, 00:16:45.73\00:16:47.80 'cause to me it sounded like 00:16:47.80\00:16:49.50 the words were being dragged out. 00:16:49.50\00:16:51.27 Really slow and low, 00:16:51.27\00:16:52.91 and it didn't sound like my voice at all to me. 00:16:52.91\00:16:56.01 And he just said, I'll pray. 00:16:56.01\00:16:58.18 I had been trying to pray out loud, 00:17:00.78\00:17:03.08 and I couldn't string words together. 00:17:03.08\00:17:06.49 I don't even know how I conveyed to Robby 00:17:06.49\00:17:08.49 that this was even happening. 00:17:08.49\00:17:10.53 So not very long after that, I like, forced my voice somehow 00:17:11.93\00:17:16.80 and I prayed something very simple, like, 00:17:20.14\00:17:24.24 God, help me, what is this? 00:17:24.24\00:17:26.24 And there was this, it felt like a blanket, 00:17:26.24\00:17:30.88 like a heavy blanket. 00:17:30.88\00:17:32.25 And it pulled off of me. 00:17:32.25\00:17:34.65 Like, to the side. 00:17:34.65\00:17:36.62 And it was the weirdest sensation. 00:17:36.62\00:17:40.72 I'm in the car by myself, and I just screamed, 00:17:42.46\00:17:43.93 what was that! 00:17:43.93\00:17:45.49 Then I realized, like, my body was light, and I was so hot. 00:17:48.16\00:17:52.20 I didn't realize it until it came off and cool air hit me, 00:17:52.20\00:17:55.90 it felt like. 00:17:55.90\00:17:57.27 So I was bouncing in my seat. (laughs) 00:17:57.27\00:18:00.44 I felt normal again. 00:18:00.44\00:18:02.64 And I truly believe that, for whatever reason, 00:18:02.64\00:18:07.72 Satan didn't want me to meet with my son that night. 00:18:09.22\00:18:10.89 He didn't want that conversation to happen. 00:18:10.89\00:18:12.85 My son really opened up. 00:18:12.85\00:18:14.39 So yeah, that... 00:18:16.42\00:18:19.26 - Wow. 00:18:19.26\00:18:20.53 Yeah, he didn't want you to meet with your son, 00:18:20.53\00:18:22.83 but he also didn't want you to live. 00:18:22.83\00:18:24.07 He wanted you to throw yourself into oncoming traffic. 00:18:24.07\00:18:27.17 Wow. 00:18:27.17\00:18:28.20 He was trying to stop you. 00:18:28.20\00:18:29.57 Not just for that day, but permanently. 00:18:30.64\00:18:33.17 Wow. 00:18:33.17\00:18:34.54 - I've never experienced anything like that before or 00:18:34.54\00:18:36.64 since. And I don't ever want to feel that close 00:18:36.64\00:18:40.12 to that kind of darkness. 00:18:40.12\00:18:41.78 - No. - It's awful. 00:18:41.78\00:18:43.08 - That's a good encouragement to keep close to Christ, 00:18:43.08\00:18:46.22 to keep praying and keep-- 00:18:46.22\00:18:47.62 - Yeah, force it. 00:18:47.62\00:18:48.76 'cause sometimes, you know, he does. 00:18:48.76\00:18:50.29 He tries to make it so that we can't pray, 00:18:50.29\00:18:52.33 and just forcing, pushing through that and praying anyway. 00:18:52.33\00:18:56.73 - Yeah, what a powerful testimony. 00:18:56.73\00:18:59.37 And you know, it's neat to see, sometimes, 00:18:59.37\00:19:02.40 God lets us have a glimpse behind the curtain 00:19:02.40\00:19:05.64 that he keeps us, you know, the hedge of protection 00:19:05.64\00:19:08.61 that he keeps around us. 00:19:08.61\00:19:10.38 And I think you saw that so clearly. (laughs) 00:19:11.45\00:19:14.12 - Yes, for sure. 00:19:14.12\00:19:15.65 - The power of evil. 00:19:15.65\00:19:17.15 And you know, it's a spiritual battle 00:19:17.15\00:19:20.52 that we often don't see in America. 00:19:20.52\00:19:22.66 Had you ever had that kind of experience before? 00:19:22.66\00:19:24.83 - No, never. 00:19:24.83\00:19:26.23 But it does make very real the verse that says 00:19:27.30\00:19:32.13 that we battle not against flesh and blood 00:19:32.13\00:19:35.27 but against principalities and powers 00:19:35.27\00:19:37.04 and the rulers of the darkness of this world, 00:19:37.04\00:19:40.24 and spiritual wickedness in high places. 00:19:40.24\00:19:42.81 We read that or memorize it or whatever, 00:19:45.45\00:19:47.92 but it doesn't really, you don't really realize 00:19:47.92\00:19:51.55 what it is until you encounter something like that. 00:19:51.55\00:19:54.59 - Yeah. 00:19:54.59\00:19:55.59 And overseas, though, 00:19:55.59\00:19:57.09 where we've been in the Buddhist countries 00:19:57.09\00:19:59.53 and the Hindu countries, they see it so much more. 00:19:59.53\00:20:04.30 And so, I think maybe God allowed you 00:20:04.30\00:20:06.33 to have that glimpse behind, 00:20:06.33\00:20:07.70 knowing that you're going to Thailand 00:20:07.70\00:20:09.34 and you need to have an understanding that it is that 00:20:09.34\00:20:13.24 real. It is that real. 00:20:13.24\00:20:14.61 And it not only looks real, it sounds real, it feels real. 00:20:14.61\00:20:18.38 You know, your own voice was used against you. 00:20:18.38\00:20:21.12 And that weight, I mean, it was all real. 00:20:21.12\00:20:23.99 It was all real. 00:20:23.99\00:20:25.29 - I shared at church about what our plans were, 00:20:25.29\00:20:28.72 and a man that we had never seen before 00:20:28.72\00:20:32.06 was there with two ladies. 00:20:32.06\00:20:33.19 And he came up afterwards and he said, 00:20:33.19\00:20:35.73 I have a message for you. 00:20:36.87\00:20:39.43 He said, what I'm gonna tell you won't make much sense 00:20:39.43\00:20:42.50 until you're over there, 00:20:42.50\00:20:43.87 but when you need it, 00:20:43.87\00:20:45.24 God is gonna bring my words back to you. 00:20:45.24\00:20:48.84 And he said, you're going to encounter evil 00:20:48.84\00:20:52.91 that you can't imagine. 00:20:52.91\00:20:54.42 He said, you know, you obviously have a clue 00:20:54.42\00:20:57.82 of what goes on from, I guess from what I had shared, 00:20:57.82\00:21:00.69 but he said, you're going to encounter things 00:21:00.69\00:21:04.03 that you haven't, you can't imagine right now. 00:21:04.03\00:21:07.93 And he said, God wants you to know, 00:21:07.93\00:21:10.27 no matter what circumstance you're in, 00:21:10.27\00:21:12.67 that you're not to be afraid. 00:21:12.67\00:21:14.17 You know, that's a little bit freaky 00:21:16.84\00:21:18.07 to have somebody say (laughs) such a thing to you. 00:21:18.07\00:21:21.41 I'm like, what are we gonna encounter? 00:21:21.41\00:21:22.44 But then, that promise at the end, 00:21:22.44\00:21:25.41 God wants you to know, you are not to be afraid. 00:21:25.41\00:21:28.38 Like, commanding you, don't fear. 00:21:28.38\00:21:30.32 - Not to be afraid. 00:21:30.32\00:21:31.72 He's there, he's always there. 00:21:31.72\00:21:33.39 - He's more powerful than the evil. 00:21:33.39\00:21:35.32 - Wow, amazing experiences the Lord is giving you. 00:21:36.69\00:21:40.53 Wow. 00:21:40.53\00:21:42.06 And to have the reassurance that you're going to do 00:21:42.06\00:21:44.17 what he wants you to do. 00:21:44.17\00:21:46.90 - That's the only reason I'm going. (laughs) 00:21:46.90\00:21:48.17 - [Natalie] And he's there, yeah! (laughs) 00:21:48.17\00:21:48.90 - For sure. 00:21:48.90\00:21:50.01 - Wow. 00:21:50.01\00:21:51.27 Well, we wanna talk to your daughters, 00:21:51.27\00:21:52.74 and then we'll talk with you again. 00:21:52.74\00:21:55.54 Well now we have Hannah on the set with us. 00:21:55.54\00:21:57.48 Welcome to the show, Hannah. 00:21:57.48\00:21:59.05 - Thank you. 00:21:59.05\00:22:00.18 - [Natalie] It's nice to have you here. 00:22:00.18\00:22:01.22 - It's nice to be here. 00:22:01.22\00:22:02.32 - Just had a couple questions for you 00:22:02.32\00:22:03.72 as you're getting ready to go over to Thailand 00:22:03.72\00:22:05.92 with your family. 00:22:05.92\00:22:07.06 After seeing some of your dad's pictures 00:22:08.19\00:22:10.26 from when he went there, 00:22:10.26\00:22:12.19 are you excited to go 00:22:12.19\00:22:13.29 and see some of these places for yourself? 00:22:13.29\00:22:15.76 - Oh yeah, definitely. 00:22:15.76\00:22:17.10 I think it looks really, really beautiful over there, 00:22:17.10\00:22:19.90 and the people. 00:22:19.90\00:22:22.20 I dunno, I'm just excited to see the different culture. 00:22:22.20\00:22:26.34 - Okay. 00:22:26.34\00:22:27.38 Anything, any place in particular? 00:22:27.38\00:22:30.51 - Not that I've thought of. 00:22:30.51\00:22:32.15 No, not right now. (laughs) 00:22:32.15\00:22:33.98 - Okay. 00:22:33.98\00:22:35.52 And what about learning the new language? 00:22:35.52\00:22:37.69 Have you listened to Thai? 00:22:37.69\00:22:40.32 - Yeah, it sounds a little insane. (laughs) 00:22:40.32\00:22:42.96 - Oh, really? 00:22:42.96\00:22:44.03 Yeah, it's a tonal language, 00:22:44.03\00:22:46.23 and so it can be difficult to learn, 00:22:46.23\00:22:48.16 but I'm sure you can do it. (laughter) 00:22:48.16\00:22:50.17 - I hope so. 00:22:50.17\00:22:51.17 - Wow, so that'll be a good challenge for you then. 00:22:52.60\00:22:55.00 So where are you in school? 00:22:55.00\00:22:56.17 Are you homeschooled? 00:22:56.17\00:22:57.24 - Yes. 00:22:57.24\00:22:58.77 - Okay, so you're gonna be taking schoolwork with you. 00:22:58.77\00:23:00.21 - Mhm, yeah. 00:23:00.21\00:23:00.88 - Okay, all right. 00:23:00.88\00:23:02.54 Well that'll be fun. 00:23:02.54\00:23:03.61 - Yeah, I think so. (laughs) 00:23:03.61\00:23:05.68 - Well, I appreciate you being here 00:23:05.68\00:23:07.05 and sharing a little bit of what you're looking forward to 00:23:07.05\00:23:09.92 and maybe the language challenge. 00:23:09.92\00:23:12.75 - (laughs) 00:23:12.75\00:23:13.86 - But God is good, he'll help you. 00:23:13.86\00:23:14.52 I know he'll help you. 00:23:14.52\00:23:15.62 All right, thanks for joining us. 00:23:15.62\00:23:17.13 - Yeah, thank you. 00:23:17.13\00:23:18.09 - And now we have Abby with us. 00:23:18.09\00:23:20.26 Hi Abby, welcome to the show. 00:23:20.26\00:23:21.90 - Thank you. 00:23:21.90\00:23:23.03 - And we wanted to ask you a question 00:23:23.03\00:23:24.73 about going over to Thailand. 00:23:24.73\00:23:26.40 I asked your sister already, 00:23:26.40\00:23:28.07 but what is it that, having your dad go to Thailand already, 00:23:28.07\00:23:32.87 what is it that you've seen, like, 00:23:32.87\00:23:34.11 in his pictures or heard about in his stories 00:23:34.11\00:23:36.24 that you're, in particular, looking forward to. 00:23:36.24\00:23:38.65 - Well, I'm excited to see how the people live there, 00:23:38.65\00:23:41.82 and, I don't know, their culture, 00:23:41.82\00:23:45.95 taste the food, see what it's like. 00:23:47.12\00:23:50.19 - You've eaten Thai food in America? 00:23:51.26\00:23:52.93 - Yeah. 00:23:52.93\00:23:54.30 - So you kinda have an idea, but tasting it over there 00:23:54.30\00:23:56.13 is different, it is different. 00:23:56.13\00:23:58.80 So what about learning the language? 00:23:58.80\00:24:00.90 - I'm excited. 00:24:00.90\00:24:02.04 I've always wanted to learn a new language, 00:24:02.04\00:24:03.41 but I've never actually followed through with it. 00:24:03.41\00:24:05.31 So I'm excited. 00:24:05.31\00:24:06.37 - Okay. 00:24:06.37\00:24:07.38 And you've heard some Thai? 00:24:07.38\00:24:08.98 - Yes. 00:24:08.98\00:24:10.21 - So has it been a comfortable experience for you, 00:24:10.21\00:24:11.35 this growth of faith that you're seeing. 00:24:11.35\00:24:13.75 - Yeah. 00:24:13.75\00:24:14.98 - Yeah? 00:24:14.98\00:24:16.32 Is it hard to make the decision to go, sometimes? 00:24:16.32\00:24:18.72 - Sometimes. 00:24:18.72\00:24:19.79 - Is it the friends and family that you're gonna miss? 00:24:21.09\00:24:23.02 - Yeah. 00:24:23.02\00:24:24.43 - Do you sense that this is what God's asking you to do? 00:24:24.43\00:24:26.59 - Yeah. 00:24:26.59\00:24:27.86 - Well, thank you so much for sharing with us, 00:24:27.86\00:24:30.23 and we're excited to see what happens 00:24:30.23\00:24:32.27 and how the Lord works in your life 00:24:32.27\00:24:35.10 and in your family's lives over there. 00:24:35.10\00:24:37.24 Thank you. 00:24:37.24\00:24:38.34 Well, it was neat to talk to your daughters 00:24:38.34\00:24:40.38 and ask them some difficult questions. 00:24:40.38\00:24:42.71 They were cheerful. (laughter) 00:24:42.71\00:24:45.08 And they answered willingly, which was nice. 00:24:45.08\00:24:48.02 So as the mom, and as the wife, 00:24:49.42\00:24:52.59 watching how God is growing 00:24:54.92\00:24:56.16 your family's faith and everything, 00:24:56.16\00:24:58.03 I wanted to ask you, what kind of obstacles still remain 00:24:58.03\00:25:01.90 as far as what you have to get through, 00:25:01.90\00:25:04.33 or what you see that your family has to get through 00:25:04.33\00:25:07.54 to be able to go to Thailand? 00:25:07.54\00:25:09.84 - I think really the only thing 00:25:09.84\00:25:11.91 that's still standing in the way is the sale of our house. 00:25:11.91\00:25:16.08 It's been on the market for a couple of weeks, 00:25:16.08\00:25:18.31 and we're hoping to be able to leave 00:25:18.31\00:25:22.32 by mid-August or September, somewhere in around there. 00:25:22.32\00:25:26.35 We're just trusting that this is how God has led 00:25:29.22\00:25:33.40 and where he's led us to. 00:25:33.40\00:25:34.73 And so, we're trusting that the house will sell. (laughs) 00:25:34.73\00:25:37.93 - Right, at the right time. (laughs) 00:25:37.93\00:25:38.73 - Yeah, at the right time. 00:25:38.73\00:25:40.20 Hopefully not too soon, 00:25:40.20\00:25:41.70 but also in time for us to leave by then. 00:25:41.70\00:25:45.34 We really wanna be able to get in Chiang Mai 00:25:45.34\00:25:48.28 for the language study 00:25:48.28\00:25:49.64 and leave before that smoke that we keep being told about. 00:25:49.64\00:25:54.02 - Yeah, they burn the rice fields. 00:25:54.02\00:25:56.18 It was really bad this year, it was the highest ever. 00:25:56.18\00:25:59.42 - Levi doesn't show any signs of asthma, 00:25:59.42\00:26:02.46 suddenly, just in the last few months, it's completely gone. 00:26:02.46\00:26:05.59 But there's still this little part of me 00:26:05.59\00:26:07.13 that doesn't wanna have him there. 00:26:07.13\00:26:09.26 - Tempt it, right. 00:26:09.26\00:26:10.57 Right, yeah, no you don't wanna take chances. 00:26:10.57\00:26:13.20 Foolishly, anyway. 00:26:13.20\00:26:14.60 So as a mother, to a mother, I appreciate, you know, I know. 00:26:14.60\00:26:19.01 I took my kids to India and Thailand 00:26:19.01\00:26:22.48 when they were very small. 00:26:22.48\00:26:23.61 My daughter was four and my son was six. 00:26:23.61\00:26:25.78 And so, I know it's a challenge 00:26:25.78\00:26:27.18 to take the little ones over there. 00:26:27.18\00:26:29.52 And then, when they're teens, now they've traveled so much 00:26:29.52\00:26:32.89 that it's easier for them, but there's still challenges. 00:26:32.89\00:26:35.96 Well, we look forward to hearing more from your family 00:26:35.96\00:26:39.89 and seeing how God leads and what the next steps are, 00:26:39.89\00:26:43.73 and what happens, you know? 00:26:43.73\00:26:46.07 What the ministry looks like 00:26:46.07\00:26:47.84 that he's feeding to you. - We're looking forward 00:26:47.84\00:26:49.14 to hearing that too. (laughter) 00:26:49.14\00:26:51.61 - Because we know he has a plan. 00:26:51.61\00:26:52.71 It's very obvious that he is leading. 00:26:52.71\00:26:55.41 So if people would like to read your blog posts or stories, 00:26:55.41\00:26:59.81 whatever you end up sharing from over there, 00:26:59.81\00:27:02.62 how would they be able to do that? 00:27:02.62\00:27:04.19 Is there a place they can do that? 00:27:04.19\00:27:05.99 - Yeah, I share from walkingredeemed.com, the 00:27:05.99\00:27:11.06 website. But recently, I've mostly just been sharing on 00:27:12.39\00:27:15.43 Facebook, and that Facebook page is just called Walking Redeemed. 00:27:15.43\00:27:18.73 - Okay. 00:27:18.73\00:27:20.04 All right, well thank you again for sharing with us today. 00:27:20.04\00:27:22.20 - Sure. 00:27:22.20\00:27:23.44 - I would like to invite you to be a part 00:27:23.44\00:27:25.27 of the Norton's ministry, to pray for them. 00:27:25.27\00:27:28.11 Pray that they will know and see the steps 00:27:28.11\00:27:31.51 that God wants them to take, 00:27:31.51\00:27:33.35 to follow him into the ministry 00:27:33.35\00:27:35.18 that he has already prepared for them. 00:27:35.18\00:27:38.02 And if you would like to be a part of supporting them, 00:27:38.02\00:27:40.62 you can contact Jesus for Asia 00:27:40.62\00:27:42.56 at PO Box 1221, Collegedale, Tennessee, 37315. 00:27:42.56\00:27:46.96 Call us at 423-413-7321, 00:27:48.50\00:27:52.53 or visit our website at jesus4asia.org. 00:27:52.53\00:27:56.17 Please remember to pray for the missionaries out there. 00:27:56.17\00:27:59.01 The Nortons are going to an unreached city 00:27:59.01\00:28:01.64 called Sukhothai. 00:28:01.64\00:28:02.98 Pray for the people that live there, 00:28:02.98\00:28:05.11 and may God bless you richly. 00:28:05.11\00:28:06.92 Until we see you next time, on Jesus for Asia Now. 00:28:06.92\00:28:10.12 (inspiring orchestral music) 00:28:10.12\00:28:13.96