Hello, and welcome
to Jesus for Asia Now.
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Today we want to take a moment
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to look at a very important part
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of how we put
this show together.
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But first, our guest
has a favorite Bible verse
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we want to read together
and that is Isaiah 41:10,
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and I'm sure it's
familiar to many of you.
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"Fear thou not,
for I am with thee:
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Be not dismayed,
for I am thy God:
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I will strengthen thee,
yea, I will help thee, yea,
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I will uphold thee
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with the right hand
of my righteousness."
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I love that verse also.
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I used to read
that to my children
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and sing it to my
children when they were young.
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And it always reminded me
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that God has
everything in His hands,
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and we will hear stories today
of how God has kept our guest
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and his equipment in His hands.
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You know, we all love to share,
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we love to share with you
the video segments from Asia
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and we've heard from viewers
that they love to see them.
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Today we're gonna be
talking to one of the people
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that help us
make those segments.
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I'd like to
introduce you to Jonathan Hill.
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Jonathan, welcome to the show.
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Thank you for having me.
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Jonathan is our
foreign correspondent
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here at Jesus for Asia.
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And what does that
mean foreign correspondent?
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What do you do?
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Well, I'm a videographer
and I was living in America
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here at the Jesus
for Asia headquarters,
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and would travel
overseas sometimes
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to make videos
and then come back.
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But, you know,
traveling overseas from here,
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there's a lot of
cost involved with that,
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and a lot of jetlag,
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and a lot of
inconveniences to doing that.
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And I wanted to live overseas,
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anyways I didn't
want to live in America.
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And so the idea of
being a foreign correspondent
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is living in Asia
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so that I can quickly
get to where I need to go
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to shoot whatever
projects I need to shoot,
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and I'm there with the people,
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and it's easier to get
that work done quickly.
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Okay. So where do you live?
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I live in Thailand.
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Okay.
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And what countries
have you shot video in?
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I've shot in India,
in Thailand, Cambodia,
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and the Philippines.
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And soon, I'll be
going to other countries
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including Indonesia and
some other ones as well.
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Do you enjoy the travel part?
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You know, when I was younger,
I always wanted to travel.
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I would, you know, see
pictures in my history book,
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"Oh, I want to travel.
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I want to go and see things."
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I never thought I'd be able to
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and God took that dream
and He said, "Here it is.
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You know, it's what I do."
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"You work for Me and I
send you here and there."
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Yes.
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So you have some equipment here.
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Do you want to
show us kind of how you,
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what your normal work
might look like sort of?
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I know you have more equipment.
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Right, right, I have a lot more.
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But there's two
phases to the work that I do.
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One is shooting,
the other is editing.
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So this right here is
basically my editing package,
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just my computer and
an external hard drive
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which I don't have
hooked up right now.
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And then ear buds so I
can hear and I just edit.
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So I can edit on a bus,
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it's hard, if it's a rough road,
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but I can edit in an
airplane, I can edit at home or,
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you know, in a
hotel room or wherever.
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And that's really
key to being able to,
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you know, travel and
still be able to edit
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and work with the footage there.
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As far as the
shooting, this is my camera.
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This is just a mic on it,
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and this is kind of
when I need to go somewhere
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and shoot something,
this is just what I run with.
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It's very, very high
quality and very easy to use
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which is really helpful
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for getting what I need quickly.
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And then this right
here is a piece of equipment
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that has really improved
the quality of the videos.
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And this is a gimbal,
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so you just put the camera
on here and then you can walk
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and it keeps the
camera steady, level.
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And it really,
really makes the footage.
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So people don't see the...
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Right and...
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Footsteps when you take.
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And then, you know,
changes and all that so...
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Okay. Yeah.
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Okay, do you have any
idea how many of our projects
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you've been able to
visit and shoot video for?
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Well, that's
kind of hard to say,
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I mean, I visited a lot of
the Bible workers in India.
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I've been to
Chennai, Udumalpet, Tanjore
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further south in Tamil Nadu.
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Went to Assam
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and up again new
section New Delhi area.
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Also the evening
schools in India,
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and the widow sewing school.
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In Thailand, I visited
almost all of the missionaries
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that are there
and their projects.
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And in the Philippines, I
haven't been there as much
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because we have a team
that's already working there,
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and then Cambodia as well.
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Okay.
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Do you have a favorite
video or do you have a clip
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maybe to share with us?
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Yeah, there's...
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It's hard to pick honestly
because there are so many.
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But the first one
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that I want to show
is of the evening schools
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and it was pretty amazing.
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The first time,
last year on my trip
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when we went to
the evening school,
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I hadn't been shooting as much,
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I was mostly editing.
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And so I had the
camera on the gimbal
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and we're in this evening school
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and for like two
hours and after 45 minutes
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my arm started shaking
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because the camera in
the gimbal is so heavy.
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But this is just
a montage of the,
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some of the clips that I got
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in the different
evening schools there
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and the kids eating.
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That's an important
part of the evening schools,
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but the most
important part is that
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they're learning
about Jesus as well.
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Okay, let's go to that clip now.
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It's so neat to see
their precious faces
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and the joy as
they're eating the food
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and to think about
how little it costs
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for each of those
children to go there.
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Right. How do they respond?
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I mean, I see the
kids smiling at you
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as you're shooting the video.
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How do they respond to you?
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How do people respond
in these different places
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where you go?
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Well, it is very
different in different places.
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In India, like just
these kids especially,
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most of them are like
they want to be in the picture.
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So if you're, you know,
wanting a shot of this kid,
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this kid over here sees
"Oh, you know, he's taking."
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And so they run and get in front
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and that's not
very helpful, you know.
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So you have to work with them.
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But in India generally,
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the kids especially
they want to be there,
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they want to be in a shot.
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The adults are not
as forward, they...
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Some of them in different places
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they're not as open,
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they're not as
happy to see the camera.
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And so I try to be
very respectful, you know,
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if they don't want
me to take their picture
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I'm not going to, you know.
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So I try to be
respectful in that regard.
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But like in Thailand
with the Karen people group,
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a lot of them
are very camera shy,
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and there's
kind of two extremes.
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Some of them are more, you know,
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forward like the Indian kids,
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but a lot of them,
you point the camera
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and they'll turn in
around you or, you know, hide.
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And in Cambodia,
it's kind of in between
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I think, you know.
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Some of them aren't and
some of them are more shy.
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So how do you get ready
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when you're going to
go on one of these shoots?
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How do you, how
do you get ready?
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Well, there is
different parts to that.
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One is just the basic equipment.
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You know, making sure
I have hard drive space
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and batteries charged,
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and chargers that
I need and, you know,
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all the equipment in my backpack
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that I'm gonna need
and, you know, all of that.
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That's one side.
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But the more important side is
really what I want to capture,
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what I need to capture.
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And for these shows here,
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a lot of that
comes from Jon talking,
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okay, you know, this
show about, you know,
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and the evening
schools or the Bible workers
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or whatever it maybe,
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what do we
really want to portray,
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how do we want to show it.
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And once we've talked then
I start to visualize, okay.
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So, you know, what
kind of shots do I need
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to really portray that,
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to portray what they're
doing and how they're working
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and the challenges
that they're facing.
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And a lot of it is,
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you kind of have to
just roll with the punches
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when you get there,
you know, you can't plan it
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because it's not like a movie
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where you have
everything scripted,
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you're
capturing what's happening
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rather than making what happen,
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you know, what
you want to happen.
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Right.
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And so there's
both those aspects
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of thinking and visualizing,
"Okay, I want this shot.
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I want this shot."
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And a lot of times,
once I get to a place
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like if we're gonna
be there for four days,
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three or four days.
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I'll see the surroundings
and then I start thinking,
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"Okay, so what
kind, what shots can I get
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to make an intro
to this or an outro,
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you know, different,
you know, landscapes or,
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you know, landmarks
that I can use to create,
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you know, a
good visual product."
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There is a lot
that goes into it.
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Well, that's neat.
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It's nice to think
about the projects.
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I mean, to think
about what they're doing,
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and how to show that?
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I mean, you can tell people,
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we talk about
what people are doing.
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I mean, where I
can tell somebody
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what the evening
schools are doing,
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but to show it to them...
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Right.
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And to see almost firsthand,
you know, it's so much better.
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Yeah.
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So what's the main goal
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when you're going
to shoot these videos?
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The main goal I would say
is really to help people to...
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Like you said to see.
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I know there was a
big change in my life
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when I went from
hearing about people
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who lived in Asia and
didn't know about Jesus,
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to actually
going and seeing them.
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And so kind of my
goal is with my camera
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as best I can to
portray the needs that are there
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and the experiences
that the people are having
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with people here in America
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because I think a lot of
times we live in a bubble,
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and it's very, you know,
we're so busy with everything
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that's going on
and it's a rat race
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and everything is just crazy.
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We don't really
think about, you know,
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what's going on in the
other side of the world.
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And if I can show that
in a way that engages people
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and they're like, "Wow!
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That's really
different than what it is here."
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And it's really different.
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Take my word for
it, you know. Yes.
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Just to show a
little bit, it's nothing,
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you know, as in
depth as being there
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and experiencing it yourself.
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But it's in between
step that I hope and I pray,
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helps a lot of
people to really engage more
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with the need
that is over there.
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Right, yeah,
these are real people
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with real
lives, real challenges,
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real joys, real sorrows.
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Exactly.
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And, you know, when
you go and you meet them
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and you learn their names,
if it's possible to remember
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'cause some of them
have very long names.
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Right.
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But it makes it
so much more personal
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and being able to see it
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and share it with the
people here is so important.
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Right.
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So okay,
speaking about the need.
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You know, that
here at Jesus for Asia,
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we have a burden for
a special people group.
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And it's a people
group that is comprised
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by over 40% of
the world's population
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and that's the
unreached people group.
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You know, we
have the people group
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that speaks this
language or lives in this place,
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but these
unreached people group,
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you know, groups, I
guess are all over the place.
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Right.
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And you have a burden for them
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and I know Jon has
shared that burden with you,
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and you've talked
about it together.
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What of that is your direction
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with some of what
you're doing with these videos?
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Yeah, well, one of the ideas
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that Jon and I've
talked about a lot
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is going to a people group
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that is completely unreached
by the gospel, untouched.
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And to show that
because you think about,
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you know, Jesus when
He left His disciples here
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and He ascended
to heaven, He said...
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He gave the Gospel
Commission, you know,
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"Go ye into all the
world and preach the gospel
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to every nation,
tribe, tongue and people."
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And if we're here in our bubble
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like I was just
talking about in America or,
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you know, in any country,
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it's very easy to
be in a little bubble
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and not really see
too far beyond that.
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Right, we think
what we see is normal.
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Right.
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And where, wherever
you're that's different,
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but still we think
what we see is normal.
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Right, and the funny
thing about the bubble,
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if you think about that
when you're inside the bubble,
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what's outside is distorted.
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You're not really
seeing the clear picture.
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And sometimes we have
to get out of that bubble,
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out of our comfort
zone before we really see,
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you know, what
reality is outside
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where we're used to.
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But back to the idea of going
into an unreached people group,
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if we need to go
and reach them somehow,
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it would be helpful
to know where they are,
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who they are, you
know, something about them.
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And so the idea is to go
in and find a people group,
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and there's a lot of challenges,
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you know, involved with this.
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Language challenges
and cultural challenges
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because I don't
want to go in and like,
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you know, just be offending
the people left and right
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because I don't
understand their culture.
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So there's a lot of
challenges mixing with it,
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but to go and see
what, how they live,
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what their needs are,
what could be some ways to,
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you know, have open
doors in reaching out to them
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whether that be through health
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or through
children's ministries or,
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you know, any
number of different ways
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to meet their felt needs
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because that's
really what opens doors,
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you know, that's
the way Jesus worked.
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He met people's felt needs,
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He mingled with them and
then they were open to Him.
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You know, one of the things
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that I see happening
in the world around us
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is Satan is using media
as a powerful tool for evil,
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impacting people in ways
they don't realize for evil.
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I want to use media for God
because it is a powerful tool
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and it can
reach a lot of people.
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And that's my goal
is to try and counteract
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what the devil is doing
by using it for God's work.
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Use it for good.
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Yes. Yeah.
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Wow, okay.
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Do you have a video to
share with us at this time?
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Yeah, absolutely.
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So this video is
about some Bible workers.
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There's...
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We have a lot of
Bible workers in India.
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This one is near Mumbai,
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and we went on
a Friday afternoon
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and that was amazing to see.
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The Bible workers
have been working there
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for just six months
and the people were,
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you know,
raising their hands, yes,
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Jesus is working in my life,
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yes, I'm thankful to know Jesus,
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and it's just
really amazing to see.
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Okay, let's play
that at this time.
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This is the most amazing program
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that I've seen in
a really long time.
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You know, Friday afternoon,
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80 or so people
have gathered here.
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They don't read the Bible,
but they've heard the gospel,
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they've heard
about Jesus Christ.
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And probably 80% of all
the people that were here,
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when asked, if Jesus
had touched their lives
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raise their hand.
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And this is direct result
of this Bible worker program.
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Well, that's an amazing video.
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It's so awesome
to see for yourself,
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you know, the people
they're raising their hands
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that Jesus is
working in their lives,
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and seeing the
Bible worker at work.
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And I know it's really
helped to have these videos.
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It makes a huge difference.
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Yeah, something that,
that actually happened that day
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and I didn't realize it at first
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but it was about a two
hour drive to get there.
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And as we were
driving out there,
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I began to not feel well.
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And to not like I was
going to be unable to shoot
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but I was, you know,
like I was getting sick.
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And while we were there,
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that village has
actually experienced
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a lot of demon possession
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and evil spirits
working in those people
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and we saw evidence of that.
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And when we left, I
felt better after that.
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And I was talking to
Jon about it and he is like,
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"You were probably
being attacked by the devil."
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Right.
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And so it's very real over there
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that, you know,
Satan works in ways
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that are more
visible sometimes than here,
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and when you're going
in there on God's mission,
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you have a
bullseye on you so it's...
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So do you pray a lot as
you're getting ready to go?
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Yes. And as you're going?
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Yes.
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Yes, there is a
great need of protection
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and God's power not only
to help me with the filming,
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you know, to get the best I can,
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to get the right shots, yeah.
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But also protection from Satan
00:19:06.68\00:19:08.28
because he's not
happy with what's going on.
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Right, he
attacks you physically,
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he attacks your
equipment I'm sure.
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Yes.
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Is your preparation
for shooting in the jungle,
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for example with
Gayle or with the Sharon's,
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different from shooting in...
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For example Bangkok
or out in the countryside
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with the Bible workers, is
that preparation different?
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Yeah, absolutely.
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As far as the equipment goes,
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the big difference between
like the jungle and the city is
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for instance like Travis,
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I went in there and shot a video
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and I had to hike 12
miles through the mud,
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and it was rainy season so
it could rain in any moment.
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And so I had my whole backpack,
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I had everything in
bags with lots of, you know,
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stuff to try and
keep the moisture out.
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And a bag over and everything,
that was a lot of work
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and then I had to,
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of course hike it in
and it's like 37 pounds.
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That's very
different than going to Bangkok
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where I don't
really have to worry about
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that my backpack is
water resistant enough
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that even if I
have to run, you know,
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short distance
through rainstorm,
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it's okay, but not
12 miles, you know.
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And as far as portraying
it, one of the challenges
00:20:14.54\00:20:17.11
that I faced at Gayle's
was the roads are so steep
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and I wanted to show that
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because, you
know, there's just stuff
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that you don't understand
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until you like see it
in person you're like,
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"Wow, that's crazy."
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Yeah.
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But I really tried to portray
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just how steep it was
and how difficult it was.
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I don't know, I don't
think it does it justice.
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Yeah.
00:20:37.87\00:20:38.93
But, you know, you
do the best you can.
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And as far as the city
it's easier in some ways
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because there's, you
know, everything is right there,
00:20:45.31\00:20:50.15
and so there's
lots of different things
00:20:50.15\00:20:51.48
that you can go
to shoot to add in.
00:20:51.48\00:20:54.72
But there's lots of dynamics.
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Yeah, lots of extra noise.
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Right, and that
can be a big challenge.
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Some other things
are like just, you know,
00:21:02.72\00:21:06.63
life is different over there,
takes a little getting used to,
00:21:06.63\00:21:09.00
once you get used
to it, it's not so bad.
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But there's lots
of unique challenges
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in working with
the people, you know,
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there's language barriers,
there's cultural barriers
00:21:15.20\00:21:18.07
in understanding the culture
and how you can relate to them
00:21:18.07\00:21:21.68
because they do
things different, you know,
00:21:21.68\00:21:23.21
and you want to
show them a biblical way
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but not a western way.
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You want to make the
gospel story real to them
00:21:28.52\00:21:33.22
but not westernized.
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So there's a lot
of, lot of challenges
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in reaching out to those people.
00:21:38.16\00:21:40.06
But the most important thing
is staying connected to Jesus
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and He can lead
through all those challenges.
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I like that verse you
read, says, He's always with us,
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you know, "Fear
not, be not dismayed,
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I'm thy God, I will uphold
thee, I will strengthen thee."
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And that has been a
precious promise to me
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through the many experiences.
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Okay, we have another
video to share at this time.
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Can you tell us about it?
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Sure.
00:22:02.38\00:22:03.45
This was actually
after I had gone over
00:22:03.45\00:22:06.86
and this was on the
first trip that I went over
00:22:06.86\00:22:08.82
to be a foreign correspondent,
00:22:08.82\00:22:10.86
it was only two
months that I was there.
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It was the first project
with all my new equipment
00:22:13.40\00:22:15.93
that God provided for
and it was incredible.
00:22:15.93\00:22:19.83
It's with Gayle
out in the mountains
00:22:19.83\00:22:22.50
and the work she's
doing is just amazing
00:22:22.50\00:22:24.27
because, you know,
she's doing the medical work
00:22:24.27\00:22:27.34
but at the same time
she's praying with the patients,
00:22:27.34\00:22:29.34
she's living the gospel,
00:22:29.34\00:22:31.01
so they can see
00:22:31.01\00:22:32.05
what a Christian really is like.
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And she's one of those
people that you see here
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and you know she's been
with Jesus that morning.
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She has a light in her
eyes, a smile on her face,
00:22:39.62\00:22:43.09
she's sharing the love of Jesus,
00:22:43.09\00:22:44.76
and it's just
amazing, amazing to see.
00:22:44.76\00:22:47.86
Okay, let's watch that.
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One young man came
one time and he said,
00:22:56.10\00:22:58.14
why is it that
when I go to the doctor
00:22:58.14\00:23:00.74
they give me paracetamol
and I don't get well.
00:23:00.74\00:23:04.08
But when I come here, you give
me paracetamol and I get well.
00:23:04.08\00:23:09.78
We're not here
because it's easy.
00:23:09.78\00:23:12.25
Or for adventure.
00:23:12.25\00:23:15.66
Or to be appreciated.
00:23:15.66\00:23:16.73
Or to be comfortable.
00:23:16.73\00:23:19.49
We're here because many
people in these mountains...
00:23:19.49\00:23:23.03
Have never heard
the name of Jesus.
00:23:23.03\00:23:25.43
And they're steeped
in superstition and fear.
00:23:25.43\00:23:28.67
They need medical help.
00:23:28.67\00:23:31.91
But there's
nobody else to help them.
00:23:31.91\00:23:34.44
So God sent us here
to help these people.
00:23:34.44\00:23:39.05
And He's doing great things.
00:23:39.05\00:23:41.28
I'm so thankful to God
00:23:44.82\00:23:46.15
because there is
no need that we have
00:23:46.15\00:23:49.09
that God hasn't
already provided for,
00:23:49.09\00:23:51.43
He never fails us,
He's always with us,
00:23:51.43\00:23:54.23
and He's given us the best job
00:23:54.23\00:23:57.00
that we in the
world of anybody else
00:23:57.00\00:23:59.17
because we get to tell
people about Jesus everyday.
00:23:59.17\00:24:04.14
Well, it is
wonderful to see firsthand
00:24:04.14\00:24:07.18
or almost what
Gayle is doing over there,
00:24:07.18\00:24:09.98
you know, to see
the people she's working
00:24:09.98\00:24:12.18
with, the environment,
the challenges, the roads
00:24:12.18\00:24:16.05
what she has to deal
with on a daily basis.
00:24:16.05\00:24:18.25
The video makes it so
much more real to us here.
00:24:18.25\00:24:21.62
I mean, we can tell a
story but to tell it with video
00:24:21.62\00:24:24.76
is so much more powerful.
00:24:24.76\00:24:26.19
Yeah.
00:24:26.19\00:24:28.06
What are some of the
challenges that you deal with
00:24:28.06\00:24:30.97
in telling the story
of someone like Gayle
00:24:30.97\00:24:33.10
who's a foreign missionary
00:24:33.10\00:24:35.64
versus somebody
that's a local missionary
00:24:35.64\00:24:37.37
like a Bible
worker or something,
00:24:37.37\00:24:38.71
is there a
difference or is there...
00:24:38.71\00:24:41.44
Is it more challenging for you?
00:24:41.44\00:24:44.11
How does that work?
00:24:44.11\00:24:45.15
Yeah, there's
definitely a difference
00:24:45.15\00:24:46.98
because like with Gayle,
00:24:46.98\00:24:48.78
you know, she's
American, I'm American,
00:24:48.78\00:24:50.59
we understand
the American mindset.
00:24:50.59\00:24:52.65
So going in I capture the way
she interacts with the people
00:24:52.65\00:24:57.73
and with the, you know,
culture and all of that.
00:24:57.73\00:25:00.70
So it's easier
for me to do that.
00:25:00.70\00:25:04.17
Also I understand
the American mindset
00:25:04.17\00:25:06.87
and that's key to
being able to really portray
00:25:06.87\00:25:09.84
what would shock Americans
00:25:09.84\00:25:11.21
because there's
a lot of them there
00:25:11.21\00:25:12.27
that shocks Americans, you know.
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Some of the things that she does
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and I haven't seen this
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because I haven't been
out there in rainy season
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but she tells stories of,
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you know, hiking
through the mud barefoot
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with leeches
hanging on her feet, okay.
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You don't really imagine
that here in America as much,
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and you can't imagine
the mud that's over there.
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And if you did go there,
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you'd have to
have special equipment
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because of the rain.
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Right, right.
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So I see that the
videos that I'm making
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as kind of a bridge between,
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you know, people
here and people there,
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whether it be a
foreign missionary,
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you know, an American missionary
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or from somewhere else
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working cross culturally,
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or the national workers
working in their own culture.
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It's kind of a bridge
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and it's harder to
plant the foundation
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on the other side of the bridge
with the national workers,
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because I don't
understand it as well.
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But God is good,
I do the best I can
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and He does the rest,
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you know, He makes
up for what I can't do
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and to be truthful
I can't do anything,
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you know, it's because of
God that I have breath today.
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And so it's His power
that makes all this happen.
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Right.
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What about your
process of all this
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is especially
challenging for you
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or satisfying for you?
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Yeah, there's a bit of a cycle,
and could almost be round cycle
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but when I go and I shoot
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a project or videos or anything,
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it's like I love
it, it's like I do
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and I'm like this is
why I just love what I do.
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And then you have to edit.
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And it's not that I
really dislike editing,
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it just takes so long many times
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and it's just a
whole lot of work.
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But then when the video
is finished and it goes out,
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I get a whole
another level of satisfaction
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knowing that that work is
finished, my work is finished
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and now it's up to God
to just let that video go
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and work on the
hearts of people.
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Well, Jonathan, I
appreciate you being here today
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and sharing with us,
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and I know there will
be people in the kingdom
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because of the
work that you are doing,
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sharing the stories
of the people out there.
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That is my
prayer and if there is,
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I know there will be, I agree,
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but it's only because of God
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because there is
nothing I can do for that
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but only God working through me
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and that's my desire
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to just let Him
work through me everyday.
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Yeah, with the hands and feet.
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Yes, with the hands and feet
of Jesus working in his stead.
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Yes.
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Well, I want to thank
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