Hello, and welcome
to Jesus For Asia Now.
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I'm Natalie wood
and my husband Jon
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is joining me today
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to share some stories
about amazing people he met
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on his recent
trip to Mumbai, India.
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Hello, darling.
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Hi, darling, how are you?
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I'm doing fine today.
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It's an exciting
trip, it's exciting show.
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I get to share about
this amazing city, huge city.
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Yes, and you had
quite the experiences
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while you were there.
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One of the most intense
trips that I've ever had,
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four days in Mumbai,
visiting our Bible workers
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and seeing their work
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after sometime
being away, very intense.
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Okay, so how many
people live in Mumbai?
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Let's just start
there, population.
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Okay, well, there
is the downtown area
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and then there is the metro area
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which includes the
entire area, the bay,
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it's kind of a bay on the coast,
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the west coast of India.
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And there is 21 million people
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living in the entire metro area.
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Okay.
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And downtown, there
is 12 million people,
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just 12 million.
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Just 12 million. Yeah.
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So it's a fairly large city.
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It's huge, it's
the size of New York.
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Okay, and the slum in Mumbai?
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The slum is, well, there is,
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it's kind of
scattered all around
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but it's considered
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the second
largest slum in the world.
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The largest slum
in Asia is in Mumbai.
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Okay, so there is a
lot of intense poverty
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and all sorts of
things like that.
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Yeah, there is the
poverty right next to it,
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there goes skyscrapers
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and a lot of wealth in the city,
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one of the most
wealthy men in the world
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lives there in Mumbai.
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You can see his house from
just about anywhere in the city
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'cause it's
like 27 stories tall.
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Wow, all right, so our first
little video clip here is a...
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It's an aerial scene of
just coming in over Mumbai,
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you can kind of see
the size of the city
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and what it looks like.
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Okay, here we go.
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Wow, that's a big city.
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So I haven't
counted the buildings
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but there is a lot there.
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That's a lot of building
there and lot of people.
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So what was your
experience this time?
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It was really
intense, just intense travel.
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The travel
getting to the churches
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was just super intense.
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It's hard, it's a
long ways to the churches,
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the nearest church is
like 45 minutes away by train.
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Okay.
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To go from
where we were staying,
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which is at the main
church, the headquarters,
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we have to walk our
ways, get in a taxi,
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take the taxi to
the train station,
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take the train, get
in a rickshaw, you know,
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walk across the however long
it was to get to the church.
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So it's just very
intense, lot of traffic.
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And we are gonna show
some of that in the show.
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And lot of
people. Lot of people.
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But here's a
picture of the Cadillac.
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Well, you can see
the mixture of traffic,
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you got little kids, you
got older people, you've got,
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you know, oxen with carts
and trailers and motorcycles...
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Trucks and buses and...
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And you can see there,
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look at the guy
crossing the street there.
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Yeah, standing in the
middle of the traffic.
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Just wading out through traffic.
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If you stopped and
waited at the side of the road
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waiting for a gap in
traffic to cross safely,
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you'd be there all
day and whole night.
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Yeah, you would never cross.
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You'd never cross, so you
just go out little bit and then,
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you know, you get to like,
if you have a dotted line there
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and you can stop there
and cars whiz by behind you
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and whiz by in front of you
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and you wait
till the next thing,
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you can go one more lane
and you just keep doing that
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and people are, that's okay.
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The craziest thing is one
time I came back from India,
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after being there
for like four weeks,
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and I tried to cross the
road in America like that and,
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you know, there was a car
coming this way and I got in,
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you know, he went by
and I came, you know,
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went to the middle of the road
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and car coming this
way just about freaked out,
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hit his breaks and honked at me
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and gave me a dirty look,
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I'm like, oh, I'm
not in India anymore.
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I'm not in India anymore.
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So I had to readjust
to American style safety.
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Yeah, crossing the
road. That's right.
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We always have to adjust
whichever we were going anyway
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because the
traffic's on the opposite side.
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Yeah.
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So you always
have to look both ways
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no matter whether you
are in America or over there.
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Right.
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They drive on the
left hand side of the road
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and we drive on the
right hand side of the road.
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Which one's
correct, I cannot say,
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but it's different.
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It's different.
So we have to adapt.
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We just live with
that and adapt to it.
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Yeah.
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All right, so the next
picture we have is a young man,
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is he begging, is
that what this picture is?
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As we are driving
through the city, you know,
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we see a lot of
beggars stop at the stop sign
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or stop light and
a beggar, you know,
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people come up
and asking for food.
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Yeah, and it's hard,
it's hard to know what to do
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because lot of these kids they,
you know, part of the mafia.
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So they are being used.
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And so you give them some money
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and they end up supporting
a mafia type of operations.
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Right. So we just don't know.
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Yeah. It's heartbreaking.
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Now, this next video is we are
in the taxi and here's a lady,
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I'm not sure what her job is,
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but evidently it has something
to do with garbage collection,
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she's trying to
get across the street.
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And you can see she's
just going gently and gingerly,
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trying to cross the street,
trying not to get run over,
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and everybody avoids each other
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and accommodates the
person that's walking
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versus the person in the truck
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doing fast, going fast,
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they just all
accommodate somehow.
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Yeah.
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But I want to
show you this, okay.
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Now, this little
section of video,
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let's go ahead
and play that section.
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Okay.
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As we are watching this video,
you can see there's stairs
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and it just looks
like some kind of...
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Like outdoor
market or something?
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Yeah, but that is
actually a neighborhood,
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that's a suburb.
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That is a set of houses.
That's where people live.
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Now you can see that
there's stairs going up to the,
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to another floor
platform in there.
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That's where one family lives
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above the family
that lives under them.
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Okay.
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So in that one little
place is two families living.
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So you look just to
the right of that tree
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you can see that
stairway going up
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into that open
house, open, opening there.
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And then you see to
the right of that opening,
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you've got that plywood
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and then that support
structure that upright,
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from the tree to that
upright that's two houses.
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Yeah, we don't know
what life is like over there.
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We have no clue.
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We have no clue what,
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what the majority of the
world actually lives like.
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And so this is actually
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they have one of
these slums type of things
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right outside the headquarters
of our Adventist church.
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Right across the
street, I remember that.
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You just go out and
you come around the corner.
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Yeah.
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And you get a
whole line of those.
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So every time we go
to the train station
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or go get a taxi,
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we walk past and
through this neighborhood.
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And so it's just...
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This is one of the
reasons why it's so intense.
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When I came home
from, from Mumbai, I said,
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Mumbai has scarred me for
life. I'm scarred for life.
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I love, I love that place
because of the people there,
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but the intensity of it
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and the poverty, and the wealth,
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and everything mixed in
there, just scarred me for life.
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I'll never be the same.
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Which is why we have
a lot of video to share
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and a lot of stories to share,
and I think we've got a story?
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Yeah.
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So the first
night I come in, okay.
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I was dealing with some issues,
from administrative issues
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from, from other parts
of the world and we come in,
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it's very intense
and very stressful
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with all the cars
and everything like that
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going on and I woke up...
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And it looks
smoggy in the pictures.
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It's quite smoggy.
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I woke up at about 2
o'clock in the morning
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and I felt this
intense pain in my,
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like a really bad headache,
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and my neck was
all tightening up,
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and my shoulders were
all tightening up and,
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and I'm just
like, oh, my goodness,
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I don't know how I'm going to
get through tomorrow in Mumbai.
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Yeah, traveling to
churches and, yeah.
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Yeah, and with this kind of pain
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it's like, Lord
Jesus, please help me.
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And He, and it's
like one of the few times
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where He actually, I heard
Him speak to me in my mind,
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it's an
impression, no audible voice
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but just a really
strong impression says,
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nobody can take
you out of My hand.
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And with that I had
peace and I felt and I said,
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Lord, please,
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I don't know how I'm
going to get through tomorrow
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with all this pain.
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Please heal me
if it's Your will.
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And I felt this
relaxing presence
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and this so relaxing feeling
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coming down through my
head into my shoulders.
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I felt all relaxed,
my shoulders just relax
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and my body relaxed
and I went back to sleep.
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That was the
beginning of this trip
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in India, in Mumbai.
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Okay. And that was...
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Praise the Lord.
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That was really an
encouraging experience for me
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to move forward
that God was with us.
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And no matter where you
go because as we'll see,
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as we go through
this environment,
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okay, you know,
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and you'll see the
next morning is Friday,
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so I'll talk some
little bit more about how to,
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how to have Christ's presence
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when the
environment is not conducive
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to thinking about Christ
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'cause you have to
learn these things.
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We are called to go
to where the people are,
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and the majority of the people
in the world live in cities.
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So how do you maintain
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your Christian religious
connection with Christ,
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your experience in a city,
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in an environment
where it is not peaceful?
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It's not God's nature. Right.
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But God is there.
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Yes, He is 'cause
He's got people there.
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Absolutely. Christ
is where the need is.
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And that's where the people are.
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That's where Christ,
that's where we can find Him.
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Okay. Yeah.
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All right, so in
the morning on Friday?
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Yes, we're
going out to a village
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that they had told me about.
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Okay.
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So we're going, we're
going out to a village.
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It took us two
hours to get there.
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It's quite a ways
out from, from Mumbai.
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It takes you about an
hour to get out of the city,
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and then another
hour in the countryside
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to get to this
village that we're going to
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where some Bible workers
had been planting a church.
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Okay.
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So the next video then
is the outside of the city?
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Okay, so this
is the countryside.
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Yes. Okay.
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This is the most amazing program
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that I've seen in
a really long time.
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You know, Friday afternoon,
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80 or so people
have gathered here.
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They don't read the Bible,
but they've heard the gospel,
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they've heard
about Jesus Christ.
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And probably 80%
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of all the
people that were here,
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when asked if Jesus had touched
their lives, raise their hand.
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And this is the direct result
of this Bible worker program.
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And these are Hindu people,
these are, this is brand new.
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The Bible workers
have been working in here
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for the last six months.
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And this is why I'm so excited
about our Bible worker program
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because they're here
full time planting seeds,
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going where the
Holy Spirit calls them,
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and groups like this
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are the result of their
work through the Holy Spirit.
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And it's so exciting to
know that I can be in America
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doing what
God's called me to do,
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while sponsoring
people like them,
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like these Bible workers
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to do what God's
called them to do,
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and this is the result.
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And so it's that partnership
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that God has ordained
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that will take the
gospel to the whole world.
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So I'm really excited
about what our indigenous,
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our national
Bible workers are doing,
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and I love this program.
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I encourage you to get involved.
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Also I really want a
lot more Bible workers,
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a lot more villages, a
lot more souls for heaven.
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This is like an amazing,
amazing return on investment
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and what, what,
what's this gonna be like
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when we get to heaven,
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we see these people
worshipping Jesus face to face.
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I want to be there and I want
more people to be there also.
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Such a precious
little one. Yeah.
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It's neat to see the
Bible worker, you know,
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on that footage that gentleman
was walking through the village
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and there was
footage of him praying so,
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it's neat to see them in action.
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Yeah, now these
Bible workers are amazing
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because it took us
two hours to drive there.
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These Bible workers
go there twice a week.
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And it takes them 2 hours,
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they have to take
first a taxi to the train,
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and then take a
train for about 45 minutes,
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and then from there they
have to get an auto rickshaw
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out to the village.
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So it takes them
almost two hours each way.
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And they don't have a car,
they're not, you were in a car?
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Right. Oh, wow!
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It's twice a week.
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Every Wednesday
night, every Sabbath,
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they do that two hour
trek out there, have a meeting,
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teach the Bible truths,
and then get back on their,
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whatever means
of transportation...
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All the modes of
transportation in reverse.
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What's really amazing
about this particular village
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is the headman was there, okay.
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And he stood up at the
end and he gave a testimony,
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he says, "I'm not an
Adventist, I'm not a Christian,
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but I want to say that
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Jesus Christ gave me
victory over alcohol."
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Wow.
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And that's why I
support this and I promote this.
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In the past my village
used to have a lot of alcoholics
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and lot of problems,
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but now almost
all of my village now
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is alcohol free.
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Wow. And that's when...
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so I started asking, you know,
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how many of you have had
Jesus work miracles in your life
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and probably 65%
of all the people
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in that gathering
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that you saw raised their hands.
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So Christ is
moving in that village.
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They're not baptized
yet, they're not Christians,
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many of them are
getting ready to be baptized,
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but they're still
Hindu, they're still Muslim,
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whatever they are,
whatever their background is,
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that's they haven't...
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and Christ is working
with them and for them.
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And this Bible
worker is doing this.
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And he's helping them, you know,
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if they're not even converted...
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Yeah, Christ is no respecter
of what religion you are.
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Right.
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He just wants to
see what is your path.
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I want to help you. And
the steps, step-by-step.
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He loves people.
He loves these people.
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You know, whether
they're millionaire or a pauper,
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He loves them.
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And so it's so
exciting to see that.
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That was our first
church that they took us to.
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That's neat, that's really neat.
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Yeah, so then after
they left the village,
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we drove back, we had lunch
and drove back to the city.
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And then that
evening, towards the evening,
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we went to one of our slums.
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And this is a slum
I've been to before.
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And we've had Bible
workers in that slum
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for quite a number of years.
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And they've raised
up over a 100 believers
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in those slums.
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So we've got a church,
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we've got a
group, a congregation,
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but we have a problem.
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It's a huge problem
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and we'll show you in the video.
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Okay.
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We're here in the
Mumbai slum, you know,
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the slums in Mumbai is like
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the second largest in the world,
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the largest in Asia.
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We have a church, but
we're renting this place
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and the rental, they
often, you know, have to change.
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And they can't put a sign up.
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So we just finished
having a meeting with,
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I'd say we had about 50
people and the place was packed.
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And the attention, the
openness and the desire,
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the hunger for the
gospel was just really strong.
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It's such a beautiful thing.
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The Friday night here,
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and I love
worshiping with our friends
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in the slums of Mumbai.
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Pray for these people because
they've got huge challenges,
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they're trying to
raise funds to get a church.
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And a church is
gonna cost about $25,000.
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And there's
been five or so years
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that they've been trying
to raise their funds for,
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they've not been able to.
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So please pray for
your fellow church members
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in the slums of Mumbai.
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They can find a church,
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they can have a
church of their own.
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Precious people. Yes.
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There's a lot of
people who live there.
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Yes, Christ has a lot
of jewels living there.
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Yes, He does. Yeah.
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So it cost 25,000 for
them to have their own church?
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That's correct.
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And that is basically
three units all put together.
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So each unit's about $8,000.
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And they want to have three,
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that was the size
of the meeting hall
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that we're in.
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You can see how
packed it was already
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so it'd be nice
to have four units.
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But that's a good
place to start anyway.
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So then you went
to live there? Yeah.
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And the next little
short video is a little clip
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so people can get a
little bit of atmosphere.
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Yes. Okay, here we go.
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Hello. Hello.
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Most people are
very friendly. Hello.
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Hello, how are you?
Oh, I like your shirt.
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He's wearing a... Hello.
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Oh, that was a big
noise. Yeah, very good.
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Oh, okay. Come aside.
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Yeah, okay.
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All right, almost got run
over by a motorcycle there,
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that's all right.
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I've had worse.
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I think we had a
car here at one time.
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Okay. Okay, guys.
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Come on. What is this?
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Photo. What is this?
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Photo. Photo. For fun.
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Fun photo. Ready, here we go.
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They are cute.
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Yeah, kids
everywhere love to get together,
00:19:11.91\00:19:13.75
love to have photo
with a white skin foreigner.
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Sometimes when I'm, we know,
spending a long time in India
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and I catch myself, I
look at myself in the mirror,
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scares me.
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Whoa! Who's that guy?
Oh, yeah, that's right.
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What's wrong with the skin?
My skin is of different color.
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He has a disease or
something. Yeah, wow.
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So then we can
move on to the next day.
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Mm-hmm.
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And you said, you
slept well that night.
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Slept well, very well.
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You didn't have
problem sleeping.
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You can see that my skin
was all shining from the sweat,
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it was hot.
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Hot, hot,
everywhere we went, it was hot.
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So God gave us
grace to go through that,
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'cause I wasn't used to
that. Okay, so the next day...
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Was Sabbath, by the
way, that was Saturday,
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that was Friday night.
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Okay. That was Sabbath eve.
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Okay.
00:20:01.46\00:20:03.03
So it's like you
driving though the city,
00:20:03.06\00:20:05.00
and it's like
going to a vespers.
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And car is honking,
and traffic going by
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and it's like where do
you get your spiritual life
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in that kind of situation.
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And that's where this happen
00:20:17.25\00:20:20.78
number of years
ago back in 2010,
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and I was in Bangkok
and I was out by myself
00:20:22.65\00:20:25.39
in the evening in
Bangkok with my camera.
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And I'm like, I need to go home
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and 'cause I feel like God
is a long ways away from me,
00:20:30.46\00:20:33.63
'cause when I go
through the city,
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I see the success of
man, high rise buildings.
00:20:34.76\00:20:37.70
I feel like my
faith is in an acid bath,
00:20:37.73\00:20:41.60
where it's dissolving
into the works of men.
00:20:41.64\00:20:44.47
And so I was out of
the city, I was like, Lord,
00:20:44.51\00:20:47.88
I need to go home
and reconnect with You.
00:20:47.91\00:20:50.25
But then I started
thinking, wait a minute,
00:20:50.28\00:20:52.35
Christ is everywhere, right?
00:20:52.38\00:20:53.98
He is everywhere. Yeah.
00:20:54.02\00:20:55.25
So I said, Lord,
You're everywhere,
00:20:55.28\00:20:56.69
that means You're here.
00:20:56.72\00:20:58.99
And He revealed His
Holy Spirit to me right then,
00:20:59.02\00:21:01.89
His presence to me and
almost to the point we're like,
00:21:01.92\00:21:04.43
"Lord, what are you doing here?"
00:21:04.46\00:21:06.23
This is downtown is
in the city, you know.
00:21:06.26\00:21:09.16
And it's like, He's
like I'm where the need is,
00:21:09.20\00:21:11.87
I'm where the people are.
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So His sprit can
bring Himself to everywhere.
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Yeah.
00:21:18.01\00:21:19.11
And so in the city
we see all these hubbub,
00:21:19.14\00:21:22.24
but Christ is in us.
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Greater is he that is in you,
than he that is in the world.
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And so we can have this peace,
we can have God's presence
00:21:27.75\00:21:31.02
and we can have
spiritual life among the crowd.
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Noise and everything,
hubbub and traffic and...
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Anywhere. Christ
is with us anywhere.
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And as we go with that faith,
see this is the, you know,
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the victory is our faith
00:21:47.54\00:21:49.67
knowing that
Christ is there with us
00:21:49.70\00:21:51.11
opens a door to Him
actually being there.
00:21:51.14\00:21:54.11
And these people, you know,
00:21:54.14\00:21:55.24
they don't have a luxury
of going out into the hills
00:21:55.28\00:21:58.55
and sitting and
having a Bible study.
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Yeah. They don't
have that luxury.
00:22:00.38\00:22:02.28
No.
00:22:02.32\00:22:03.39
They have to live there,
00:22:03.42\00:22:04.45
so is Christ
not gonna bless them
00:22:04.49\00:22:06.22
in the place where they're at?
00:22:06.25\00:22:09.32
Is He not gonna
come to them there?
00:22:09.36\00:22:10.96
Exactly.
00:22:10.99\00:22:12.33
And when Christ
was on the earth,
00:22:12.36\00:22:13.40
did He only go out of...
00:22:13.43\00:22:14.73
He spent a lot of time
out in the country side.
00:22:14.76\00:22:17.23
He was able to, but
did He avoid the cities?
00:22:17.27\00:22:20.94
Most of His works
were done in the cities.
00:22:20.97\00:22:23.54
Was He walking
00:22:23.57\00:22:24.61
through the cities feeling like,
00:22:24.64\00:22:25.74
"Oh, I got to get out of here,
00:22:25.77\00:22:26.84
so that I can
reconnect with My Father."
00:22:26.88\00:22:29.94
No, He'd already
connected with His Father.
00:22:29.98\00:22:31.65
Absolutely. And the
Father was with Him.
00:22:31.68\00:22:34.65
Wherever He was,
00:22:34.68\00:22:35.78
in the cities
and in the countries.
00:22:35.82\00:22:36.92
So we can claim
that experience in Christ
00:22:36.95\00:22:38.92
as we connect with Christ.
00:22:38.95\00:22:40.56
Yes.
00:22:40.59\00:22:41.56
Then we can have Him
with us in the cities.
00:22:41.59\00:22:43.06
That's right.
00:22:43.09\00:22:44.33
And our faith is not dependent,
our experience with Christ
00:22:44.36\00:22:46.53
is not dependent
on our surroundings.
00:22:46.56\00:22:49.30
It's dependent on...
That's a good lesson.
00:22:49.33\00:22:50.87
It's dependent on Christ,
00:22:50.90\00:22:52.50
who is
omnipresent, Omni powerful
00:22:52.53\00:22:55.57
and He's everywhere.
00:22:55.60\00:22:56.97
It's awesome, God is
good. Yeah, God is good.
00:22:57.01\00:22:59.71
All right, so on
this Sabbath morning,
00:22:59.74\00:23:01.38
you went to a different church.
00:23:01.41\00:23:02.68
Yes, and we're
gonna end on this church
00:23:02.71\00:23:04.91
because it's a beautiful church,
00:23:04.95\00:23:06.51
and play the video
00:23:06.55\00:23:07.55
you'll get the idea
of why such a contrast,
00:23:07.58\00:23:10.25
such a
difference from the church
00:23:10.29\00:23:12.39
we were at Friday night.
00:23:12.42\00:23:13.76
Okay.
00:23:13.79\00:23:15.22
Okay.
00:23:29.37\00:23:30.37
And this morning Lord,
we're so grateful to You
00:23:30.41\00:23:32.91
for the privilege
to engage ourselves
00:23:32.94\00:23:35.08
in this great task
that heaven is engaged in.
00:23:35.11\00:23:37.48
So, Honey, could
you tell the difference
00:24:46.82\00:24:48.35
between that church
00:24:48.38\00:24:49.75
and the church that
we went to in the slum?
00:24:49.78\00:24:51.79
Yes. It was a lot cleaner.
00:24:51.82\00:24:54.02
Yes. And brighter.
00:24:54.06\00:24:55.59
Yes. You know, just lighter.
00:24:55.62\00:24:58.03
Yeah. A whole
different environment.
00:24:58.06\00:25:01.23
Right.
00:25:01.26\00:25:02.26
But this is an
incredible story...
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Okay. Okay.
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We get there and I
walk in and I'm like,
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"Wow, this is a nice church.
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I love it here.
This is awesome."
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And seeing the people
with in their clean sarees
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and their smiling faces,
it's like they're so at peace
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and they're so worshiping God.
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And I'm like, "Wow,
this is so awesome."
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I'm so glad that
you have a church,
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that looks this nice,
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that's
representative of our God.
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And the president,
who you saw in there
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talking and
giving the communion.
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By the way I...
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He ask me to do the communion
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and I didn't do a
very good job of it
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so he took over.
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But he said that, this is
not our regular place to meet.
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He says that we meet
normally in a really tiny house,
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and only like 15
people can fit in the house.
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It's very dumpy
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and this was a special occasion,
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we rented this
facility just for the Sabbath.
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And so I'm like
praying about this
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and I get the strong impression.
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They need to
rent it all the time.
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They need to rent
this all the time,
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so I'm like how much
is that cost to rent?
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And he says well, four hours
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if they were gonna
rent it every Sabbath
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for four hours, okay,
it would cost $200 a month.
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Okay.
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And I prayed and
I prayed I'm like,
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"Man, for these
people this is really,
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it's out of their ability.
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We had a, many of these
people are barely scraping by.
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You might as well say,
you know, $20,000 a month...
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Right. Here in America.
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And so I prayed about
it and it's like okay,
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we're gonna commit to this.
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And I told the
president, says, you know,
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Jesus For Asia
we're gonna commit to this
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to $200 a month
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to rent this place full
time for this congregation
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and they almost cried.
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And when he announced it
everybody was just so happy.
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He says, we've
been praying for this
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for the last four years,
you've answered our prayer.
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And see that's what's
beautiful about the donations
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to the general fund, you know,
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is that we're able to
do these kinds of things
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in the moment when
the opportunity opens up.
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And so it's so
cool to be in a place.
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If I'd stayed home, I
wouldn't have that opportunity
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to be in that place
and to fill that need
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and to answer, be the
answer to that prayer.
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And that's why God wants us
to get out of our comfort zone.
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He wants us to go
and meet other people
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in other parts of the world.
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Meet other people
and see, you know,
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where can I make a difference.
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Yeah. It's awesome.
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Yeah. God is very good.
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Yes.
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If you would like to
be a part of God solution
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for Mumbai and beyond,
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you can send your
tax deductible love gift
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to Jesus For Asia.
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PO Box 1221,
Collegedale, Tennessee, 37315.
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Call us at 423-413-7321.
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Or checkout our
website at Jesus4asia.org.
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And may God richly bless you,
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until we see you
again on Jesus For Asia Now.
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And don't forget, next
week is Mumbai part two.
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