Hello friends and welcome back. 00:00:20.76\00:00:22.11 This is "Books of the Book." 00:00:22.14\00:00:23.78 My name is Deyvy Rodriquez 00:00:23.81\00:00:25.27 and we're so glad that you can take this time 00:00:25.30\00:00:28.18 and join us as you open your Bibles with us. 00:00:28.21\00:00:31.18 We're studying the Gospel of John 00:00:31.21\00:00:33.35 and you're welcome to pick up with us. 00:00:33.38\00:00:35.75 We are in Chapter 12 00:00:35.78\00:00:37.17 and it has been an amazing experience 00:00:37.20\00:00:39.74 with this Bible study. 00:00:39.77\00:00:41.53 We're studying with Dr. Jon Paulien. 00:00:41.56\00:00:44.00 He is currently the dean of religion 00:00:44.03\00:00:45.83 at Loma Linda University and he comes all the way 00:00:45.86\00:00:48.27 from Loma Linda, California. 00:00:48.30\00:00:50.45 And I keep telling him I've been blessed. 00:00:50.48\00:00:52.73 I've seen so many spiritual applications from this book 00:00:52.76\00:00:56.85 and as he says this is an-- this is a spiritual gospel. 00:00:56.88\00:01:01.17 And, Dr. Paulien, when you say this is a spiritual gospel 00:01:01.20\00:01:04.74 because you said it before, 00:01:04.77\00:01:06.00 but tell us briefly what do you mean 00:01:06.03\00:01:08.69 when the Gospel of John is spiritual? 00:01:08.72\00:01:11.79 Aren't all the gospels spiritual? 00:01:11.82\00:01:15.00 It depends I guess on how you come at it 00:01:15.03\00:01:17.48 but I think the primary motive 00:01:17.51\00:01:19.52 of the Matthew, Mark and Luke is to get the story down. 00:01:19.55\00:01:23.29 This is what Jesus did. 00:01:23.32\00:01:24.89 This is what Jesus said 00:01:24.92\00:01:25.98 that the simple telling of the story is enough. 00:01:26.01\00:01:29.95 But in John the story is only the beginning. 00:01:29.98\00:01:33.98 Each of the stories functions like a parable 00:01:34.01\00:01:37.68 with all kinds of spiritual meanings. 00:01:37.71\00:01:40.91 And so John I guess is content that the story has been told 00:01:40.94\00:01:46.45 and now he's going to take aspects of the story. 00:01:46.48\00:01:50.55 Especially ones that only he seems to know about 00:01:50.58\00:01:53.33 or only he emphasis and use that story to go deeper. 00:01:53.36\00:01:59.51 And the reason for this is that as the apostles went out 00:01:59.54\00:02:05.31 they would tell the story of Jesus 00:02:05.34\00:02:07.33 but then they would interpret it. 00:02:07.36\00:02:10.96 But once the apostles are dead, 00:02:10.99\00:02:14.73 the interpretation has to come out of the story. 00:02:14.76\00:02:18.44 So John felt that the three gospels 00:02:18.47\00:02:20.98 that were there before by themselves 00:02:21.01\00:02:24.21 were not everything that the second generation needed. 00:02:24.24\00:02:26.89 The second generation needed the interpretation, 00:02:26.92\00:02:29.73 needed the deeper spiritual meaning 00:02:29.76\00:02:31.98 they brought to them 00:02:32.01\00:02:33.17 so that they could function without the living apostles. 00:02:33.20\00:02:36.76 And when you say the second generation again 00:02:36.79\00:02:38.63 it's that a group or that generation who have-- 00:02:38.66\00:02:41.95 who never got to see physically Jesus 00:02:41.98\00:02:44.44 or His miracles being performed. Or His disciples. 00:02:44.47\00:02:47.21 So we happen to be that generation. Yeah. 00:02:47.24\00:02:49.12 You see, as long as the disciples are alive 00:02:49.15\00:02:51.97 remembering everything Jesus did, 00:02:52.00\00:02:53.69 they can interpret it all. 00:02:53.72\00:02:55.67 But once the apostles are dead, 00:02:55.70\00:02:58.76 the words on the page have to do the job. 00:02:58.79\00:03:01.27 And so John I think is seeing that 00:03:01.30\00:03:04.44 the three other gospels are very, very good, 00:03:04.47\00:03:06.75 very, very important, very useful 00:03:06.78\00:03:09.85 but they are not fully gonna do the task by themselves 00:03:09.88\00:03:13.68 of reaching a generation 00:03:13.71\00:03:15.35 that doesn't have that living voice 00:03:15.38\00:03:17.38 that only has the words on the page. 00:03:17.41\00:03:19.94 So John puts words on a page 00:03:19.97\00:03:22.14 that will elaborate these things. 00:03:22.17\00:03:25.23 And I like what you said also that the first generation 00:03:25.26\00:03:29.29 who were present in the lives, 00:03:29.32\00:03:30.95 in the life of Jesus don't have an advantage 00:03:30.98\00:03:33.70 over our faith, you know. Right. 00:03:33.73\00:03:36.66 In fact you can even said that it could be to, 00:03:36.69\00:03:40.13 to our advantage that we didn't see Jesus physically. 00:03:40.16\00:03:44.25 Time and again in the Gospel of John, 00:03:44.28\00:03:45.96 the people are standing there with Jesus have doubts. 00:03:45.99\00:03:48.38 They don't get it. They reject Him. 00:03:48.41\00:03:51.86 Physical presence of Jesus is no guarantee of anything 00:03:51.89\00:03:55.70 but if our hearts are open to the Holy Spirit 00:03:55.73\00:03:58.46 and to the words of the gospels. 00:03:58.49\00:04:01.35 We can have everything they could have had and more. 00:04:01.38\00:04:04.58 So today, now we're talking about-- 00:04:04.61\00:04:07.68 we're at Chapter 12. 00:04:07.71\00:04:10.09 Tell us what are we studying today in this chapter? 00:04:10.12\00:04:12.65 Well, Chapter 12 is kind of a transition in the gospel. 00:04:12.68\00:04:17.00 We've been working through 00:04:17.03\00:04:18.61 some three years of Jesus' ministry. 00:04:18.64\00:04:21.95 John touches based on a story here 00:04:21.98\00:04:24.45 and saying there another story, Jesus' public ministry. 00:04:24.48\00:04:29.89 And with Chapter 12, 00:04:29.92\00:04:31.71 we're coming to the close of the public ministry of Jesus. 00:04:31.74\00:04:35.33 This is the last part of His public ministry. 00:04:35.36\00:04:38.85 And with Chapter 13, 00:04:38.88\00:04:40.44 He's is gonna go into the closet so to speak with His disciples. 00:04:40.47\00:04:44.09 And what goes on there is not for the wider world 00:04:44.12\00:04:47.76 but He's gonna deal directly with them 00:04:47.79\00:04:50.61 and He becomes much more of a teacher in Chapters 13-17. 00:04:50.64\00:04:57.00 In its public work, its in more about what He does 00:04:57.03\00:05:00.09 and the miracles and one and one encounters with various people 00:05:00.12\00:05:04.98 who have not been believers before very public. 00:05:05.01\00:05:08.95 But now we're at the point 00:05:08.98\00:05:10.80 where we gonna start transitioning 00:05:10.83\00:05:12.82 to a more personal private kind of ministry. 00:05:12.85\00:05:16.59 Okay, and where shall we begin? 00:05:16.62\00:05:18.54 Well, Chapter 12 has a series of short vignettes 00:05:18.57\00:05:24.51 kind of like stories where they are just little pieces 00:05:24.54\00:05:27.66 of the last few days of Jesus' ministry. 00:05:27.69\00:05:30.02 It starts like a week before His crucifixion 00:05:30.05\00:05:33.42 and will see several little stories here. 00:05:33.45\00:05:35.38 The first one is the climax of the Mary story I think 00:05:35.41\00:05:39.79 and that's in Chapter 12:1-8. 00:05:39.82\00:05:42.47 So why don't we start there? 00:05:42.50\00:05:46.04 "Then, six days before the Passover, 00:05:46.07\00:05:48.02 Jesus came to Bethany, 00:05:48.05\00:05:49.73 where Lazarus was who had been dead, 00:05:49.76\00:05:52.87 whom He had raised from the dead. 00:05:52.90\00:05:55.19 There they made Him a supper, 00:05:55.22\00:05:56.90 and Martha served, 00:05:56.93\00:05:58.25 but Lazarus was one of those who sat at the table with Him. 00:05:58.28\00:06:01.82 Then Mary took a pound of very costly oil of spikenard, 00:06:01.85\00:06:06.86 anointed the feet of Jesus, 00:06:06.89\00:06:08.28 and wiped His feet with her hair. 00:06:08.31\00:06:11.00 And the house was filled with the fragrance of the oil. 00:06:11.03\00:06:14.18 But one of the disciples, Judas Iscariot, 00:06:14.21\00:06:17.45 Simon's son, who would betray Him, said, 00:06:17.48\00:06:20.13 'Why was this fragrant oil 00:06:20.16\00:06:22.00 not sold for three hundred denarii 00:06:22.03\00:06:24.28 and given to the poor?' 00:06:24.31\00:06:26.07 This he said, not that he cared for the poor, 00:06:26.10\00:06:28.51 but because he was a thief, and had the money box, 00:06:28.54\00:06:31.80 and he used to take what was put in it. 00:06:31.83\00:06:34.53 But Jesus said, 'Let her alone, 00:06:34.56\00:06:37.31 she has kept this for the day of My burial. 00:06:37.34\00:06:40.26 For the poor you have with you always, 00:06:40.29\00:06:43.98 but Me you do not have always.'" 00:06:44.01\00:06:47.54 Part of the concept that the spiritual gospel 00:06:47.57\00:06:51.17 is that various characters in the story play bigger roles 00:06:51.20\00:06:55.98 that they are almost like actors in a drama. 00:06:56.01\00:06:58.74 And here you have three characters in a story. 00:06:58.77\00:07:01.21 You have Mary, Martha and Lazarus. 00:07:01.24\00:07:03.41 They happen to be brothers and sisters. 00:07:03.44\00:07:05.47 One single family 00:07:05.50\00:07:07.07 but each of them relates to Jesus 00:07:07.10\00:07:08.82 a little bit differently. 00:07:08.85\00:07:10.45 And in Mary we see the kind of person who is up and down, 00:07:10.48\00:07:16.92 you know, sometimes she is, you know, 00:07:16.95\00:07:19.44 really locked in for the spiritual things. 00:07:19.47\00:07:21.55 Sometimes she gets caught in some unfortunate situations. 00:07:21.58\00:07:25.83 But here she represents absolute sold out 00:07:25.86\00:07:29.79 love and devotion to Jesus. 00:07:29.82\00:07:31.90 She is gonna give the equivalent of the years wages 00:07:31.93\00:07:36.26 and just sort of wasted on a moment. 00:07:36.29\00:07:38.56 You know, Martha wouldn't have done that. 00:07:38.59\00:07:39.98 She would have calculated, this is really costly. 00:07:40.01\00:07:42.06 You know, couldn't we just dip our finger in 00:07:42.09\00:07:44.05 and smell up the room and that would be enough. 00:07:44.08\00:07:47.13 I mean, she pours enough perfumes out there 00:07:47.16\00:07:49.26 to smell up the whole neighborhood. 00:07:49.29\00:07:51.02 Maybe Jerusalem is even catching at two miles away you'll see. 00:07:51.05\00:07:55.18 It's an absolutely wasteful. 00:07:55.21\00:07:57.38 I mean Judas is right in the sense it's a waste. 00:07:57.41\00:08:01.35 But she feels nothing is waste 00:08:01.38\00:08:04.43 if it expresses her absolute devotion to Jesus. 00:08:04.46\00:08:07.53 So she represents all those believers who, 00:08:07.56\00:08:10.88 well, they may not be the most stable people on earth. 00:08:10.91\00:08:14.20 They love Jesus with all their hearts 00:08:14.23\00:08:15.99 and they are willing to do even wasteful silly things 00:08:16.02\00:08:19.59 in the eyes of other people 00:08:19.62\00:08:20.71 in order to express their devotion to Jesus. 00:08:20.74\00:08:23.10 Martha on the other hand, 00:08:23.13\00:08:25.50 she reflects faith, service, steadiness, 00:08:25.53\00:08:30.30 you'll see and she represents those believers 00:08:30.33\00:08:33.66 that Jesus can count on so to speak, you know. 00:08:33.69\00:08:36.66 She'll be there even when all else fails. 00:08:36.69\00:08:39.40 She'll be cooking and cleaning 00:08:39.43\00:08:40.71 when nobody else feels like doing it. 00:08:40.74\00:08:42.58 She is steady, she's solid. 00:08:42.61\00:08:44.26 Lazarus, he represents the resurrection hope 00:08:44.29\00:08:47.88 that all of us have. 00:08:47.91\00:08:49.60 He already tasted 00:08:49.63\00:08:51.50 what we will all one day experience in Jesus Christ. 00:08:51.53\00:08:54.84 So the characters here-- 00:08:54.87\00:08:57.82 John is not just telling the story 00:08:57.85\00:08:59.89 but he is unpacking it in ways that we can pick a character 00:08:59.92\00:09:04.02 that we relate to and really bring it home. 00:09:04.05\00:09:06.49 Now there is another character in here 00:09:06.52\00:09:08.06 that I don't think we-- Oh, yeah. 00:09:08.09\00:09:09.97 Leave out in John, it certainly didn't leave out 00:09:10.00\00:09:12.93 and I just hope that we don't chose this character 00:09:12.96\00:09:15.76 but that is Judas and apparently he-- 00:09:15.79\00:09:20.29 it seems that he cares for the poor 00:09:20.32\00:09:22.97 and his following statement was 00:09:23.00\00:09:28.06 why was this fragrant oil not sold for, 00:09:28.09\00:09:30.98 you know, three hundred denarii and given to the poor? 00:09:31.01\00:09:33.82 So it almost seems like, 00:09:33.85\00:09:35.07 you know, we could have used this 00:09:35.10\00:09:37.04 and multiplied the blessing to many others-- 00:09:37.07\00:09:39.65 Yeah, done a lot of good with it. 00:09:39.68\00:09:43.45 This is a waste. Right. 00:09:43.48\00:09:45.08 And the next verse the narrator kind of, 00:09:45.11\00:09:46.92 you know, he says the following, 00:09:46.95\00:09:49.19 you know, he said this not 00:09:49.22\00:09:50.43 because he cared for the poor but because he was a thief. 00:09:50.46\00:09:53.35 So speaking of characters 00:09:53.38\00:09:55.72 who does this character represent? 00:09:55.75\00:09:58.64 Well, one thing the scholars have noticed 00:09:58.67\00:10:00.57 in the Gospel of John is a strong dose of irony. 00:10:00.60\00:10:05.96 Irony is a literarily concept 00:10:05.99\00:10:10.41 where what's there on the surface 00:10:10.44\00:10:12.72 is the opposite of reality. 00:10:12.75\00:10:14.80 You know, it's kind of like somebody has a baby 00:10:14.83\00:10:17.32 and he gives a cigar 00:10:17.35\00:10:18.99 and the person lights up the cigar 00:10:19.02\00:10:20.83 and blows up in his face. 00:10:20.86\00:10:21.92 It's a particle joke, you see. 00:10:21.95\00:10:24.26 The idea was that this was a pleasant gift 00:10:24.29\00:10:26.45 in honor of something 00:10:26.48\00:10:27.61 and then it kind of blows up in the face 00:10:27.64\00:10:29.95 and everybody laughs at the victim. 00:10:29.98\00:10:31.59 You see, kind of a thing. 00:10:31.62\00:10:32.65 So irony is kind of in that regard. 00:10:32.68\00:10:35.53 And Judas is playing the idiot here in a real sense 00:10:35.56\00:10:39.01 because he's so serious. 00:10:39.04\00:10:41.27 This is a waste and this money 00:10:41.30\00:10:43.97 should have been given to the poor. 00:10:44.00\00:10:46.06 Well, the reality is, he's the one 00:10:46.09\00:10:48.56 in charge of giving money to the poor 00:10:48.59\00:10:51.37 and he is stealing from the bag. 00:10:51.40\00:10:54.71 So the irony is the surface he says 00:10:54.74\00:10:57.76 this money should be given to the poor, 00:10:57.79\00:10:59.86 the reality is he is the poor. 00:10:59.89\00:11:02.39 He's the one that is lifting from the bag. 00:11:02.42\00:11:04.88 Almost like saying, why don't I get a piece of that? Yeah. 00:11:04.91\00:11:07.34 It has to go through me. Yeah. 00:11:07.37\00:11:09.29 And-- He is upset that there 00:11:09.32\00:11:11.46 isn't-isn't little bit more that he can pull out of. 00:11:11.49\00:11:13.88 But, you know, there's a deeper irony here 00:11:13.91\00:11:16.30 and John always goes a little bit deeper. 00:11:16.33\00:11:18.73 The amazing thing is this. 00:11:18.76\00:11:21.34 In reality no one in the history of the world 00:11:21.37\00:11:25.01 has ever given more to the poor than Jesus did. 00:11:25.04\00:11:29.39 I mean than Judas did when he betrayed Jesus 00:11:29.42\00:11:32.51 because in giving Jesus up to the cross 00:11:32.54\00:11:36.20 that was a gift that did more for the poor 00:11:36.23\00:11:39.22 than anything else anyone has ever done. 00:11:39.25\00:11:41.07 So Judas of course didn't intend that 00:11:41.10\00:11:44.19 but in betraying Jesus, 00:11:44.22\00:11:45.72 in essence he gave the world a huge gift at his own loss. 00:11:45.75\00:11:49.70 I never really saw that, that spirit application that 00:11:49.73\00:11:55.12 he didn't-- it wasn't obviously no monetary value or anything 00:11:55.15\00:11:58.77 but it was a greatest gift to humanity he gave Jesus. Yeah. 00:11:58.80\00:12:02.50 And that's how God works. God takes actions of our. 00:12:02.53\00:12:06.39 Sometimes our actions are well intentioned. 00:12:06.42\00:12:09.87 Sometimes they are ill intentioned. 00:12:09.90\00:12:12.04 In this case it was ill intentioned. 00:12:12.07\00:12:14.23 And yet God can use the nasty things people do. 00:12:14.26\00:12:18.36 The anger, the hatred, evil deeds 00:12:18.39\00:12:22.14 and God can take those 00:12:22.17\00:12:24.35 and bring something good out of it. 00:12:24.38\00:12:25.87 And that brings a little bit of hope 00:12:25.90\00:12:27.94 to people who have had been robbed, 00:12:27.97\00:12:31.51 people who have been abused, 00:12:31.54\00:12:33.91 people who have suffered at the hands of angry people 00:12:33.94\00:12:37.44 to realize if God could take Judas' miserable act 00:12:37.47\00:12:43.02 and bring the greatest things 00:12:43.05\00:12:44.50 that has ever happened on this earth out of it, 00:12:44.53\00:12:46.73 salvation for all who will receive it. 00:12:46.76\00:12:49.91 Then the things that have happened to me in my suffering, 00:12:49.94\00:12:53.39 God can use that to bring something beautiful out of it. 00:12:53.42\00:12:57.56 And so that there's a sideline to all the story. 00:12:57.59\00:13:01.67 Another side of this is that 00:13:01.70\00:13:04.38 often our greatest strength is our greatest weakness. 00:13:04.41\00:13:08.28 Judas' strength was handling money 00:13:08.31\00:13:12.05 and in that strength the disciples trusted him. 00:13:12.08\00:13:15.69 They never asked, 00:13:15.72\00:13:16.96 you know, what the bottom-line was. 00:13:16.99\00:13:18.44 Judas can take care of, he is good at that, 00:13:18.47\00:13:20.42 we'll let him handle it. 00:13:20.45\00:13:22.06 But his greatest strength 00:13:22.09\00:13:23.29 became his greatest temptation, you see. 00:13:23.32\00:13:26.59 Like a pharmacist. 00:13:26.62\00:13:28.66 A pharmacist great strength 00:13:28.69\00:13:30.53 is being able to give people exactly what they need. 00:13:30.56\00:13:34.24 But that strength is also weakness 00:13:34.27\00:13:35.95 because pharmacists are-- 00:13:35.98\00:13:37.62 have the ability to become drug abusers themselves 00:13:37.65\00:13:41.91 and nobody can check them. 00:13:41.94\00:13:43.60 They are the ones in charge of it, see. 00:13:43.63\00:13:45.31 So the temptation is there. 00:13:45.34\00:13:46.96 At our school of pharmacy 00:13:46.99\00:13:48.33 we train pharmacists in the importance of ethics 00:13:48.36\00:13:51.58 that they above all people have to be true to themselves 00:13:51.61\00:13:55.28 when no one else is looking. 00:13:55.31\00:13:57.18 Because nobody can monitor 00:13:57.21\00:13:58.69 what the pharmacist does with the drugs 00:13:58.72\00:14:01.00 because pharmacist is the monitor, you see. 00:14:01.03\00:14:03.86 So your greatest strength and your greatest weakness-- 00:14:03.89\00:14:06.55 I'm not ragging on pharmacist please. 00:14:06.58\00:14:08.60 I'm just using it as an illustration 00:14:08.63\00:14:10.28 that the area in which we're most talented and strong 00:14:10.31\00:14:13.66 can sometimes be the place where we fall 00:14:13.69\00:14:16.44 and we have to be aware of that. Right. 00:14:16.47\00:14:17.67 And as Paul says, he who thinks he stands 00:14:17.70\00:14:21.10 let him take heed lest he fall. 00:14:21.13\00:14:24.23 And there was Peter also in his self sufficiency. 00:14:24.26\00:14:26.91 He believed, he trusted in himself 00:14:26.94\00:14:28.81 and yet that's when he denied the Lord. 00:14:28.84\00:14:32.82 We do know the tragic story of Judas unfortunately 00:14:32.85\00:14:37.63 but that is, that is quite sad, 00:14:37.66\00:14:40.57 you know, and we were talking about 00:14:40.60\00:14:41.66 in earlier programs how Jesus said that, 00:14:41.69\00:14:45.99 that there is, there are also wolfs. 00:14:46.02\00:14:48.58 You know, Jesus said He's the good shepherd 00:14:48.61\00:14:50.04 and then there are wolfs in sheep's clothing 00:14:50.07\00:14:53.44 and referring to the Pharisees. 00:14:53.47\00:14:55.68 Who the Pharisees had casted out 00:14:55.71\00:14:57.14 the blind man from the synagogue 00:14:57.17\00:14:59.14 and Jesus took him. 00:14:59.17\00:15:02.00 But as we see here there was, 00:15:02.03\00:15:04.06 it seems that even within His disciples 00:15:04.09\00:15:07.07 there was wolf, can--is that applicable, 00:15:07.10\00:15:10.21 would that be fair to say? 00:15:10.24\00:15:12.49 If we allow Satan to get into our lives, 00:15:12.52\00:15:15.68 he can turn even our well intentioned efforts 00:15:15.71\00:15:19.32 into great destruction. 00:15:19.35\00:15:21.75 What was--I think Judas actually has some good intentions. 00:15:21.78\00:15:25.36 He was trying to provoke Jesus to get out there 00:15:25.39\00:15:28.81 and do what he was supposed to do to become a king. 00:15:28.84\00:15:31.60 What was in Judas' heart that led him to, 00:15:31.63\00:15:34.79 to eventually betray Jesus or turn him into, 00:15:34.82\00:15:39.59 turn him into the religious leaders to death? 00:15:39.62\00:15:42.79 Well, let's get into that in a moment 00:15:42.82\00:15:44.30 but I think right now we need to go to a break. 00:15:44.33\00:15:46.19