I Want This City

Heart Cry

Three Angels Broadcasting Network

Program transcript

Participants: Pr. Doug Venn

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00:08 And over the past 60 years there's been a massive decline
00:11 in foreign missions.
00:15 I'm sharing the gospel through Church Planting.
00:19 In the 1930's if somebody gave $10.00 in tithe
00:22 they'd give an additional $6.00 in foreign missions;
00:24 today just 28 cents.
00:27 We're doing the best we can with what we have,
00:29 but I'm still not satisfied.
00:35 God's crazy in love with the Thai people,
00:38 and I sense His spirit hovering over the city.
00:41 I've come to Bangkok, Thailand to discover the truth
00:43 about foreign missions.
00:45 Come with me as I follow my good friend, Pastor Doug Venn,
00:48 in his everyday life of a front line missionary.
00:50 I prayed for God's biggest dream, and He gave me this
00:53 city of 12 million.
00:57 Welcome to my world.
01:11 We're here at the Nonthoburi Church Plant.
01:13 And I'm just talking to one of the neighbors here,
01:15 because yesterday on the third floor there was a fire.
01:18 I was going to ask permission to see if we
01:20 can go check it out.
01:33 The water from the Fire Department is
01:34 still coming down, so...
01:44 These are the ovens that they use for the painting of the
01:46 different parts for the motorcycles.
01:48 You can see the fire caught and melted...
02:02 So our friends here are making the different motorcycle parts,
02:06 and I'm going to go upstairs here.
02:09 So I need... Oh, here's what could have started the fire.
02:23 So there was a fan and the paint thinner caught on fire,
02:29 and so that's why yesterday they had kind of like...
02:33 They had a shelter over these two areas, and it's now burned.
02:42 Did the fan have like an electrical short or something?
02:45 Electrical short. You can see, the next two over?
02:47 That is where the Church Plant is.
02:52 The Lord protected us.
02:53 I can't believe this, that no one was hurt;
02:56 it didn't continue.
03:01 Nothing; I mean our Church Plant is right next door!
03:05 Oh, this is the paint thinner.
03:06 I need, I need... Oh, this is what started the fire.
03:11 But it was open. Oh, and so that's what caught on fire.
03:18 And of all of these paint thinner cans,
03:19 they're right on the other side of this door,
03:21 and if they'd caught fire this could have burned down
03:23 on the other side? Yes. Right.
03:27 Oh, so they've already taken two trucks load of the rubble away.
03:32 Do you have insurance? No.
03:37 So if it would have gone down the whole building would have
03:41 exploded, because you see underneath; you saw on the
03:44 stairway there with all of the cans of paint thinner,
03:47 there's one thing that had 200 liters of this paint thinner.
03:52 And so this was just one gallon.
03:54 I'm going to share with him that I see that this is God's
03:57 hand protecting them.
03:59 And so then that way to show His love and grace to them.
04:03 So that's what I'm going to try to say in Thai,
04:05 whether that comes across or not, that's another story.
04:38 Now we're heading to the Church Plant.
04:40 It's housed in a three story building with apartments
04:42 upstairs for the full time staff.
04:44 This is our Church Planting team, and I was just asking them
04:47 what happened yesterday, and what time.
04:49 So _, what time did it happen yesterday?
04:53 Around 9 o'clock.
04:55 In the morning?
04:56 In the morning.
04:57 And so what did you guys do?
04:59 Run! We just runned.
05:01 I saw the fire. I came out.
05:04 Oh, something's wrong over there.
05:06 I just go run; get my things.
05:08 And he say, I don't know what I'm doing.
05:13 Got to take my things. Your stuff?
05:17 Can you tell me how long has it been since this Church Plant
05:22 has been in this community?
05:24 I have been for five years already.
05:37 But Ajun Myo; and so Ajun Myo is now a
05:40 missionary at the hospital.
05:41 So he is now serving there.
05:44 But Ajun Myo, what was it like when you first came here?
06:24 What is the background of these people?
06:29 What is their faith background?
06:46 So what was it like for you, as I know you were the first
06:50 Church Planting pioneer here.
06:52 And so what was it like for you to live Christ,
06:55 and to experience God's grace, but then to start, you know,
06:59 over time start sharing that with your English students?
07:55 How did you see God work not only in your life,
07:58 but in the lives of some of these?
07:59 Can you tell us the story?
09:06 The program's about to start, but I wanted...
09:09 There's so many other stories of how God has been working
09:11 in the lives of these men and women.
09:14 And some of them are still in the valley of decision.
09:17 One last question before we go and start the program Ajun Myo.
09:20 What... If this Church Plant wasn't here, would these people
09:27 have a chance to know Jesus Christ?
09:44 So I was asking Miss Gyn, whom is a Buddhist,
09:48 that five years ago, when the center just started,
09:53 and she came to hear, to study English; had you ever
09:56 heard of Jesus Christ before?
09:58 And her answer to me was no.
10:00 She'd never heard the story about Jesus before.
10:43 Okay, so she was forty years old.
11:23 But what language is 3ABN in, or Hope channel?
11:30 But right now what language is it in?
11:34 Some of these women are house wives or business women
11:38 in the community here.
11:40 They have been seeing how God has been igniting one of their
11:45 friends, and how God has been changing their life,
11:47 and marriage, and their family.
11:49 And then the others are like they're starting to feel that
11:53 fire warming their hearts.
11:54 And so to me that is why, over the last five years, to see that
12:01 spark ignite one, and then starting to ignite another,
12:05 and that gives me such...
12:07 But I've been only viewing through your eyes,
12:10 over your shoulders as you've been here in the field.
12:13 Ajun Myo has been an inspiration for me to see how God has been
12:18 working, not only in his life, through him, but also in the
12:21 lives of these men and women's.
12:23 So the program's going to start now,
12:24 so we don't want to be late. Yeah.
12:40 Right now we're singing Oh Come All Ye Faithful, but as I look
12:43 around many of these people, they don't know this song,
12:47 because this could be the first time they're singing it today.
12:50 Oh come let us adore Him...
12:55 Silent Night, Holy Night.
12:58 Ah no, A. Silent...
13:05 Silent night, holy night, all is calm, all is light.
13:28 Right now we're singing different beautiful songs,
13:32 but the background on these songs and the language is
13:36 something that we have give explanation, because...
13:41 We're praying now, and Dr. __ is telling the story
13:44 of what's the real story about Christmas to help the audience
13:51 know he's giving an overview of Who is God?
13:55 He's... God is the Creator.
13:57 And why did He come to this Earth, and what's going on?
14:01 Because many of these people, they have no background at all
14:06 in the Christian stories, or the Christian perspective,
14:13 or even the words that we use.
14:14 And so that's one thing that in our Church Planting work
14:17 we have to give explanation in ways that the
14:21 people can understand.
14:23 And you can't just come in and say, you know,
14:27 like right now, Who's Satan?
14:31 Who is that? He's just saying that the Thai's,
14:34 they don't know this.
14:35 But yet you see the game Internet Shop.
14:38 Today the Thai kids get to see all kinds of evil,
14:44 and where, where does that evil come from?
14:46 And so we have to teach the kids that there's good
14:49 and there's evil, and this great controversy,
14:52 and there's God, and there's Satan.
14:55 And we have to teach our kids, you need to choose
14:59 the good and not the evil.
15:03 Dr. _ right now is talking about how...
15:06 Where did these religions come from?
15:09 This is a misconception that many Thai's have is that
15:12 Christianity is a foreign religion.
15:15 And so that's why Dr. _ right now is reminding them
15:19 with the map that Christianity, it's roots are actually ancient.
15:26 And so whenever I ask that question,
15:29 Where does Christianity come from? many Thai's are surprised
15:34 that it is actually an Asian religion.
15:51 This Church Plant is based in the community,
15:54 and we were able to get a good deal on the rent.
15:58 But we're in a light industrial park.
16:00 But over the last five years God has blessed.
16:04 And despite the noise pollution, the air pollution,
16:09 and you saw our neighbors with their painting,
16:14 and fixing motorcycles.
16:16 On a typical day here you'll hear the lumber mill cutting
16:22 wood over there, or the printing press printing.
16:26 So it's just, it's a light industrial park.
16:29 But God has just used us in this place to share the gospel,
16:34 and God's word is going out in mighty ways.
16:39 One lady who you talked to today, she, when the team first
16:45 opened the Bible she just got in their face and said,
16:49 Why are we studying that?
16:54 And so for five years the team has been faithfully sowing God's
17:00 seed, God's word into the lives of these men and women.
17:05 And over time, now they can sit through a
17:09 sermon and understand.
17:11 It's also a reminder of how much more we have to go,
17:16 because these men and women would never have heard
17:21 the gospel had we not come to this community.
17:25 And there's thousands more little side streets like this
17:29 across the city that I'm just overwhelmed that
17:32 we have to go forward.
17:37 But this last week was a rude reminder that our funding is
17:43 not enough, the staff aren't enough.
17:51 And so it just, from a human perspective,
17:54 it's like impossible, impossible.
17:59 _ we have to go now.
18:01 I just want to say Thank you so much for your sacrifice,
18:04 and for letting Christ be uplifted. God bless you man.
18:08 I'm so proud of what you're doing here,
18:09 so keep up the good work. Yeah.
18:14 Let's cross over to the other side of the city to another
18:17 Church Plant that doesn't have a permanent location yet,
18:20 because again, of a lack of funds.
18:25 Welcome to the Khlong Toei District that includes Bangkok's
18:28 largest slum of about 80,000 people.
18:37 This is a daily wages working community that's trying to fight
18:40 its way out of poverty.
18:49 The children born here don't have much hope for improving
18:52 their lives as this neighborhood is becoming more and more
18:54 crowded, domestic and gang violence is commonplace,
18:57 and child abuse is rampant.
19:00 Many of the men go to work in the nearby river port for their
19:03 daily survival, or develop simple skills, like this young
19:06 artisan making little fishing cowboy candy monkey's,
19:09 as he was taught by his father.
19:15 Bringing hope to places like this is the
19:18 essence of Christianity.
19:19 Jesus said, I have been anointed to preach
19:22 the gospel to the poor.
19:23 So you would expect to find a lot of Seventh-day Adventists
19:26 here, or at the very least a lot of support for those that
19:29 are doing this work.
19:40 This is the Community Health Center, and it's the only public
19:43 meeting place in this entire neighborhood.
19:47 We've been granted free access to use it, but as you can
19:50 imagine, it's often being used for other functions.
19:53 We really need a place of our own.
20:02 You may ask yourself, Can I make a difference with
20:05 my mission offerings?
20:06 When we don't give there are real costs: lives are lost;
20:11 lives like the lives of these kids, and millions like them
20:16 all around the world.
20:42 What is your name?
20:43 What is my name? My name is
20:51 What's your name?
20:53 My name is _.
20:55 _, nice to meet you
20:57 And your name?
21:15 We're next to one of Bangkok's largest slums, and our team...
21:19 There's other groups who've been working here for decades trying
21:23 to share the gospel in practical ways.
21:26 But we've been here now for four years,
21:29 and God's opened great doors.
21:33 We've been working with the community leader.
21:34 And when we do activities, or have camps, and stuff like that,
21:39 we invite the community leader along.
21:43 We've done health education, Diabetes education,
21:48 we've done natural remedies, all kinds of different health things
21:52 in this community, and the Lord has just
21:55 opened incredible doors.
21:57 We're starting to do small groups here, now that we've been
22:00 able to tear down some of the prejudice.
22:03 And just this year the community leaders of this...
22:08 There's ten housing developments, housing complexes
22:12 here, and their government, or their kind of, I'm not quite
22:18 sure how to describe it _.
22:21 So that's like the community committee who kind of rules,
22:26 or oversees this political district.
22:32 They tell me there's around 10,000 adults, and that's not
22:36 counting the kids who live in these housing developments.
22:40 So we're right next to that, the slum area.
22:42 But they met together, this community committee,
22:45 and they said to us, I was there at the meeting, they said,
22:49 Please, we want you to be here full time, because, Thank you
22:53 so much for teaching English, thank you so much for doing
22:56 health programs, and thank you so much for doing all of these
22:59 other ways to serve in the community,
23:02 but we'd like you to be here full time.
23:04 And we said, Great!
23:07 What a great opportunity!
23:08 So they took us to the place where they said, Yeah, you can,
23:12 on this first floor you can prepare this
23:14 space to be your church.
23:16 And, please, we want you to teach your religion as well.
23:21 And I just was rejoicing, but it's been what, ten months,
23:25 eleven months since that meeting and our leaders, they were here
23:32 just this last week, and they were saying it's too expensive.
23:37 We can't build the facility here.
23:41 The community leaders have asked us to be here,
23:44 but our church leaders say it's too expensive.
23:47 And so in my heart I rejoice that we've got...
23:51 Well, I don't know, I didn't count the kids.
23:53 We've got sixty kids here for this Christmas activity,
23:57 and this place is just jam packed with people who are
24:00 longing to meet someone that you and I know very dearly,
24:07 and that's Jesus Christ.
24:09 And we've got this open door, but instead of an open door,
24:13 we just see the dollars.
24:18 So, anyway, it's a day of rejoicing,
24:22 but in my heart I'm also sad.
24:33 The Church Planting pastor has got some blueprints
24:42 from a builder, and it looks like it will be about a million
24:47 _, and in U.S. dollars today that's around $30,000.
24:52 So I know that may not seem like a lot of money to you
24:57 and to me, but that's...
25:02 You can just describe it in 7 million _.
25:05 It's like a million dollars.
25:07 Why would $30,000 seem like such a lot of money?
25:10 If your local church were building a fellowship hall,
25:12 it would be no problem raising that amount.
25:15 But the fact is that that's two thirds of the Thailand
25:18 Adventist Mission's entire yearly budget for the whole
25:21 country of 65 million people: for all outreach, evangelism,
25:25 publishing, personal ministries, etc.
25:28 And this is in a country that is less than one percent Christian.
25:32 How could this be? How could a country that has so much need of
25:36 hearing the gospel have so little resources
25:38 with which to share it?
25:40 In 1933 the average Adventist in North America gave about $311.00
25:45 a year in tithe in today's money, and an additional $193.00
25:49 through the church toward foreign missions.
25:51 In 2006 the average Adventist gave about $820.00 per year in
25:56 tithe, which is more than two and a half times
25:58 what it was in 1933.
26:00 But when it comes to foreign missions,
26:02 today the average Adventist will give only about $21.00,
26:06 which is 89% less than before.
26:10 This drop in giving didn't exactly happen suddenly.
26:13 It's been a long, slow, gradual decline to where we are today.
26:17 And as you can see, our mission program is
26:20 statistically nearly extinct.
26:22 The truth is we spend eight times more on pets,
26:25 and seventeen times more on our local church budget.
26:28 How do you think this makes the missionaries feel?
26:33 We've been here for four years serving the people,
26:36 and boys and girls, and the families.
26:40 Our lack of giving tells our missionaries and leaders
26:43 in other countries that we don't care about the people that
26:45 they're trying to reach.
26:47 It sends a strong signal to them that says, Don't expand,
26:50 don't do more soul winning, don't reach out to the poor.
26:53 We are telling them, and the universe, that we don't care
26:57 about the lost souls for whom Christ died, so why should they?
27:01 We're saying that our money is more important to us than those
27:04 people are, and we've been telling them this for decades.
27:11 And these are the working class; people who the government
27:15 is trying to get them out of poverty and to who are
27:18 looking for education.
27:20 Their community leaders asked us to teach IT, to teach computers,
27:26 to teach media to help them get out of this cycle of poverty.
27:31 And via our own closed eyes, we don't see that this is Jesus
27:42 Christ... Let's stop now.
28:15 The mission challenge that we face today is greater
28:18 than ever before, yet for the last seventy years our mission
28:23 offerings have been dropping.
28:26 But we can change that.
28:27 If every Adventist in North America would simply give $1.00
28:31 a week for mission offerings, it would double the amount
28:35 that is now being given.
28:37 Will you join me in that commitment to make a
28:41 difference for Jesus Christ?
28:43 Check it out: AdventistMission.org.
28:46 Every person matters to God, and every dollar that you give
28:49 for mission helps us to reach one more person.
28:52 And I'm so grateful to everyone who's sacrificed for mission.
28:56 One day soon you'll be able to meet the people who found
28:59 Jesus because you gave.


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