Hello, I'm Stan Hudson
speaking for In the Beginning.
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Today we wind up our series,
this is program number 7.
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In the Beginning and In the End.
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How do things end?
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You know our theories of
origin that we have taken a look
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at this series, whether it
is evolution or creation, very
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much impact how we feel
things will come out in the end.
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If you believe in the Big
Bang theory of how we got here,
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which is a cosmic evolution
than the most popular beliefs
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are we are going to a some
kind of a big crunch, or a big
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freeze, anyway not
a very happy ending.
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If on the other hand you
believe in the creation account,
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you have a much
different belief in where we're
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going to end up.
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I hope you
enjoy today's program.
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I can't believe after
this week is already done.
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It seems like it has gone
very fast, this is the fastest
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week I have ever lived I think.
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But full and busy and
with lots of interesting people
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we have met.
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We've enjoyed this
interaction and I hope you have.
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And we are ending
where we should tonight.
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We are ending on the
end because today as we take
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a look at the subject, In
the Beginning, we are going
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to look at also In the End.
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What happens in the end?
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Because many worldviews,
as we look at these big
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questions of origins, directly
impact how we feel things
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are going to end.
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So our models
include how things end.
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We will talk about
that quite a bit today.
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I just thought with
this busy week we could stand
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a little humor so.
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Sometimes I question
if there really is a dog.
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Agnostic fleas.
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I thought that was pretty good.
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That is pretty good.
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Sometimes things are so
big we don't see it, we need
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to see the forest as
well as the trees, don't we?
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Well again in the beginning
God, or in this case as
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we discuss it tonight,
or perhaps the Big Bang.
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Maybe the Big Bang has the
answers for how we got here.
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A Big Bang undirected.
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A Big Bang by
itself, a big explosion.
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The most popular view
of how we got here today.
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So we are going to take
a look at the universe a
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little bit tonight.
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It looks like even Scripture
says we can learn a lot by
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taking a look at
the starry heavens.
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There is no speech nor
language where their voice
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is not heard, it
speaks to all of us.
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Let's take a look at
some of the marvelous things.
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Well, this is a picture of
yours truly back in the day
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when I had a very, very
cool 6 inch refractor with a
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motor drive.
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It was a big deal, and I
miss that telescope more than
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you can know, but
I had a lot of fun.
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We went out to the Mojave
Desert sometimes to the Joshua
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Tree National
Monument, where that was.
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There is no light pollution
to speak of and you can see
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down to the six magnitude
stars, and it was wonderful.
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I just had a lot
of good memories.
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This had a lot to do with
pushing me toward an interest
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in science, so
astronomy is a great thing.
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Astronomy, physics,
okay well astronomy.
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Now here is a great
announcement that was made just
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recently, the Atheon:
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Now what is this
that they have built?
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A hint in the word,
a - theon, a -theist.
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This is a temple to science.
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It is a religious building,
a church that was built for
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strictly the understanding
of science will teach us all.
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It's in Berkeley California,
which is not terribly
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surprising, but that is
where it is and it has just
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opened in the stained-glass
window that used to be
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reserved for such things as
spiritual stories now has the
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background radiation
of the Big Bang there.
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So it is a place of
worship for those so inclined,
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the Atheon, a
-theist, place of worship.
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It is interesting, and
this is what they have a pattern
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after, now this is far
as the Big Bang theory is
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concerned, it was the
final deal that sealed it for
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astronomers, for people
who view origins issues.
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What they did is they
took a government project that
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was searching for what
amounts to the remnants of
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the Big Bang.
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The after effects of the
explosion, the radiation out
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there in the universe.
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This map was taken, was
formed by instrumentation that
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they aimed at the universe
to see if they can find this
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material and in this
picture looks like the
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Big Bang did happen.
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There is a reminiscence of it.
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It was quite a project,
but here's how NASA imagines
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the Big Bang to
have taken place.
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This is a clip from them.
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Notice that it
speeds up, and that is it.
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That is a NASA
clip, downloadable.
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That is what they view
happened in the Big Bang.
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It just exploded and
actually there is an increase in
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speed which is an
interesting dynamic of it.
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There is the Big Bang expansion
over the last 13.7 billion
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years in a NASA picture.
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There is dark energy,
accelerating expansion which is
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an interesting thing.
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Here's one, how
are your minds today?
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Do you think you have
your thinking caps on?
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I want you to try and
wrap your mind around this.
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The Big Bang theory is that
not only matter got blown up,
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but space, and that
space is expanding with matter.
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So do you have that so far?
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Space and matter are doing this.
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Space and no, that is
a hard one for me too.
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What is on the edge, on
the other side of space?
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Physics, it is an
interesting place.
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Falling off into where?
Yeah that is the question.
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Now the Big Bang is
responsible, as the theory goes,
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for the formation
of our solar system.
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The material was hot, and
it was cooling and circulating
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around and around and
became the orbit of some matter
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out a little further
it coalesced into planets.
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Here we are today with
the planets circulating
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around the Sun.
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Everything was blown out
from the Big Bang and rotating,
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revolving and that gave
us our galaxies and our wheel
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within a wheel type of
thing all the solar systems.
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For that matter I guess
Atoms do the same thing.
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Now with Sir Fred Hoyle
that coined the term "Big Bang".
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He was being a little
bit sarcastic when he said it
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because he didn't
actually believe it at first.
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The astronomer Fred Hoyle.
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But after a while he
became converted to the concept.
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It was he that developed
the nucleosynthesis idea in
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stars formation, within
stars heavier matter is formed
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over time than
hydrogen and helium and so on.
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It was this kind of
idea that he developed and he
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actually became
very famous for it.
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He championed the
steady-state universe.
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Why would astronomers
have, shall we say ax to grind,
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but an interest in
proving a steady-state universe?
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The Greeks were the believers
in the steady-state and a
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number of people throughout
history have been pushing
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steady-state
concepts of the universe.
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Remember no vestige of the
beginning, no end in sight.
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It was because you eliminate,
well it wasn't because,
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but it certainly had this
effect, it eliminated the need
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for a Creator, because
there was no created act.
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Nothing that started,
it just has always been.
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So the steady-state universe
was particularly championed
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by people like Fred Hoyle
and others that have a tendency
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to not want to see
God's hand anywhere.
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Or a Creator, or a
start, a beginning.
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So it was actually
resisted at first by people,
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with that kind of thinking.
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The interesting thing
about Fred Hoyle's own story,
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he has quite a
journey or interesting story.
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He became disillusioned in
the science of evolution and
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began to talk like
that with his colleagues.
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They had picked up on that
and when it came time for the
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nucleosynthesis work that
he did in the stars they passed
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over him and gave the
Nobel Prize to his associates
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because he was rocking
the boat on evolution issues.
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He was saying he was not
sure evolution was that well
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supported, so it is interesting.
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Fred Hoyle, a brilliant man
who stepped into the Big Bang
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term that he probably did
not believe that the time as
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stick as it did.
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Now this is from a website
of people that still believe
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in the steady-state and they
are not creationists at all.
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They still believe in
the steady-state universe.
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Just noticed that I am only
putting this on here because
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I want you to see how another
theory is complaining about
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the theory that is winning.
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Just to see some of
the things they are saying.
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Notice this:
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This is very important.
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So a model has to have
predicted value for it to be
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valid, or validated, it
has to guess ahead of time how
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something will turn out.
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And regularly do that,
better than just chance.
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It is interesting that
the steady-stator's are
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complaining and saying that
now in science it seems like
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the typical way of dealing
with big issues, big models,
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so you just tweak the existing
model and never challenge
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the existing model.
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They are complaining about
it, these are not people who
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are creationists at
all, just complaining about
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the Big Bang.
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I have already mentioned
to you Isaiah 40:22, and there
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is other verses in the
Bible that point out that God
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"stretches out the heavens
like a curtain and spreads"
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"them out like a
tent to dwell in. "
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That is present tense in
Hebrew, the end stretching.
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It is interesting that
Bible writers picked up on that.
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Now the thing about the
Big Bang is the most popular
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view of how things are
going to end has been termed
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The Big Crunch.
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So at some point the
expanding universe, which is
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accelerating right now,
the assumption is that at some
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point is going to start
to come back the other way.
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When it comes back the
other way you do not want to be
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around, but I'm afraid
somebody will be around.
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That is what's going to
happen, it's going to collapse
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back into itself into the
little tiny bit of matter that
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started the Big
Bang to begin with.
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The Big Bang was an assumption
that all matter in the
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entire known universe, every
atom, was stuck in a little
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tiny spot and
condensed to smaller than a Pea.
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Really, really tiny
and then it blew up.
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It blew up and expanded
and forces beyond understanding
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just blew up in all the
matter expanded and spread out
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and swirling into
what we see today.
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The galaxies and so
forth and that is the
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Big Bang theory.
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It is basically on this,
is Uniformitarianism again,
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in a sense, because if we
are expanding like this, well
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at some point in history
that we are back like this.
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That is the assumption, so
just wind the clock back and
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assume that how small
everything must've been,
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as small as you can possibly
imagine, and then it blew up.
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As I like to point out,
the only thing I know of that
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gets better organized
through explosions would be my
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kids bedrooms.
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Anyway that was just a thought.
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It is the organizing theory
behind all things, evolution
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from atomic level
through living matter.
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Atomic evolution is atoms
evolving into more complex
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elements and so on.
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Now the good news, and I
know ministers and preachers
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like me should bring good news.
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I'm bringing you good
news tonight because we do not
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need to worry
about The Big Crunch.
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The reason we don't need
to worry about The Big Crunch
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is the earth is going to
burn up way before then anyway.
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So that is based on
the life cycle of the sun.
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Here we are now four a
half billion years and somewhere
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around nine or 10 the
sun is going to go red giant.
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As it begins that process
it will expand right up to our
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orbit and that's it, we
are all fried and that's it.
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So the good news is we
do not have to worry about
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The Big Crunch because in
the end that is what is going
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to happen, just get
really hot on planet Earth.
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That happy article
is there in the future.
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Fortunately it is distant.
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Now remember, when we
talk about the Big Bang, we are
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talking about
suddenly something that does
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have a beginning.
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The theological implications
for some are well may be God
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did create this corner of
the universe, or this universe,
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or whatever through a Big Bang.
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You have seen the bumper
stickers that says, "I believe"
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"in the Big Bang, God
spoke and bang it happened. "
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Anyway, the Big Bang.
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So this is the theory held
by some, maybe God did use the
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Big Bang as a way of
building this part of
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His known universe.
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It is a possibility I
suppose, let's take a look at
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some other things.
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There is a problem in
the creationists world.
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The creationists there are
always a variety in a scale
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of what all creationist belief.
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They don't agree on
absolutely everything.
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They usually hold to some
kind of a reasonably literal
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understanding of the Bible.
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Beyond that there is a
little room and there are among
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creationist quite a few
Young Universe Creationists.
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Young Universe Creationists
have the problem of explaining,
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they are tackling
this, have the problem
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of explaining how it looks
like the universe is billions
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of years old and the length
of time it takes from light
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to get from one end of
the universe to planet Earth,
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for us to see.
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It would seem to require
billions of years unless you
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have the concept of travel
of light, and space bending
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on itself, there are different
kinds of theories to try
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and deal with that.
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It is a problem and as
creationists I think we need to
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admit our problems and
our challenges, we don't have
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all the answers.
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But for Young Universe
Creationists the issue of
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how old the
universe is, is the question.
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Young Universe Creationists
often hold to a 6000 year old
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universe, in scientific
areas that is a challenge.
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It is perhaps even a bigger
challenge than radiometric
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dating is, anyway that is
a problem for Young Universe
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Creationists.
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Some will say no problem,
we've got it worked out.
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There is some challenges there.
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Now a problem for Old Universe
Evolutionist is also when
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we look out the universe.
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When we are looking out
we can see almost to the very
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other end of the universe.
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13 billion years is about
how old things are, you can see
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about 13 billion
years in light-years.
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You should be seeing on
the other end, you should be
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seeing young galaxies.
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You are looking at
things that started, supposedly
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13 billion years, it took
13 billion years for the light
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in the place of that end
of things, to get to you.
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That should be pretty new
stuff you are looking at by
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the time the
light gets back to you.
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The problem is that
most of the time when you see
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galaxies, even the ones that
are out there, most of them,
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not all of them, most of
them look like what scientists
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consider to be
mature looking galaxies.
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Galaxies that seem to
be functioning pretty well.
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So there is some challenges
for Old Universe Evolutionist
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as well as we look
across this vast universe.
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In fact, right here is what
is considered to be, this is
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the most recent, is considered
to be the most farthest
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object in the universe
that has been detected.
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This is thanks to Albert
Einstein to be able to see this
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red, do you see within
that circle see that little
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red line there?
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That is considered to be
a galaxy so far on the other
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side of this that the light
bends by gravitational pull
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around these galaxies and
therefore it is way, way to
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the farthest, it is 13
billion years out there.
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You don't see very much of it.
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Incidentally, some of
these pictures are fantastic.
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Let me back up to
the one just before.
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Take a look at that picture.
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Everything is a galaxy
except that one star in the
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lower right center.
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These are all galaxies as well.
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You haven't seen anything
let's show some more here.
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How about this one?
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This is deep space
picture taken by Hubble.
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Hubble telescope is
the most wonderful thing.
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Plus the pictures are free.
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Government is your
tax dollars at work.
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Here is the current
accepted age of the universe.
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13.73 billion years old.
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There is only one star in
that picture and absolutely
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everything else is a galaxy.
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What they look for is the
absolute darkest place they
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can find in the sky and
figure the stars will not get in
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the way of their
picture to probe further.
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This is some of the area
where they found it to be as
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dark as they can get.
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The longer they leave the
exposure going, the more they
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see further and it is just
amazing how vast this universe
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is, it is beyond belief.
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What you are looking at
right now is a globular star
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cluster in our own
galaxy the Milky Way.
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Take a look at that!
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Every single
spot there is a star.
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Isn't it amazing?
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If you ever feel like you
are dealing with too much ego
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and pride, you're
a little too stiff.
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Go take a look, a nice long
look at a dark summer sky and
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you will be
humbled rather rapidly.
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When you look at how
vast this universe is.
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Now there is a very interesting
parenthetical statement in
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Genesis when it talks about the
4th-day creation when God has
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placed the sun and the
moon in its proper perspective,
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in the sky and so forth.
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It said He made the stars also.
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It is interesting how that
is dropped into the creation
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account, now it is dropped
in such a way in Hebrew that
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we would consider it a
parenthetical statement.
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It should be in parentheses,
like incidentally God
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created the stars also.
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Now the question would be
for some, does that mean He
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created them on that fourth day?
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Or did He simply create
them at a earlier time and
00:21:17.75\00:21:20.41
they just wanted you
to know that that was also
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created by God?
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Incidentally, the Hebrew,
I can say this the Hebrew
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allows either way, so I
will leave it to you to decide.
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But nevertheless the main
point is this, God made the
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stars according to Scripture.
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How many stars did He make?
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He made, the latest count
is, on average a galaxy has
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almost 100,000,000,000 stars.
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The current count we have
over 100 billion galaxies.
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Some galaxies have
as many as a trillion.
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I think I read as many
as 10 trillion stars in one
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galaxy, that is 10 million,
million stars in one galaxy.
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He made the stars also.
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Then again if you want
to be humbled take a look.
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It should bring from our
hearts, comments like the
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Psalmist said, when
he looked at the stars.
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What are we living on this
little tiny dust, in this neck
00:22:25.85\00:22:29.39
of the universe, that you
should show any interest in us
00:22:29.43\00:22:32.93
at all given how
great your universe is.
00:22:32.97\00:22:35.43
The good news is that
God is very interested in us.
00:22:35.46\00:22:38.70
But, nevertheless, the
universe is interesting.
00:22:38.74\00:22:41.95
Do you remember
that Carl Sagan said,
00:22:41.98\00:22:43.64
so I think were getting
his worldview very clearly.
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Here is another happy thought.
00:22:52.04\00:22:56.33
This is pretty much the view
of science, or at least when
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you leave God
out of the picture.
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That we are not much
in this vast universe.
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A happy thought!
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So in the end,
what happens in the end?
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The Big Crunch, the
sun burning us up, or what?
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What is happening in the end?
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I told you at the very
beginning of this week, that I
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have the potential somewhere
in this week to step on
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every toe, and now I am
going to challenge my religious
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friends here today on a
deeply held theory of theology
00:23:55.38\00:24:00.23
and see if I can just
tweak it a little bit.
00:24:00.27\00:24:04.21
Or at least to give you
something to think about,
00:24:04.24\00:24:06.00
if I can do that that
will be fine and I will
00:24:06.04\00:24:07.77
run out this door.
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talk about a
controversial subject of hell.
00:24:11.29\00:24:15.26
Do you know who this man is?
00:24:17.00\00:24:19.55
This man was at one time
expected to be Billy Graham's
00:24:19.58\00:24:23.34
successor, Charles Templeton,
a very famous evangelist
00:24:23.38\00:24:27.53
who became an atheist
and among other things he was
00:24:27.56\00:24:31.68
bothered by the
doctrine of hell.
00:24:31.72\00:24:34.03
There is more.
00:24:41.91\00:24:43.99
Bertrand Russell, the
famous American atheist said:
00:24:44.03\00:24:49.46
more, Charles
Darwin himself said this:
00:24:57.16\00:25:01.57
said Charles Darwin.
00:25:22.53\00:25:24.68
It was Clarence Darrow,
remember at the Scopes trial.
00:25:24.72\00:25:28.16
The monkey trial, remember
he was the defense attorney
00:25:28.20\00:25:31.61
for John Scopes, and he said:
00:25:31.64\00:25:33.45
these are the words
of Clarence Darrell.
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So you see we are having
a consistency here of people
00:25:47.84\00:25:51.75
who at least have
a problem with hell.
00:25:51.78\00:25:54.34
This was raised in the
book, The Case for Faith, maybe
00:25:54.38\00:25:57.41
some of you are aware of
this book by Lee Strobel.
00:25:57.45\00:26:00.16
One of the great questions
he asked, one his chapters
00:26:00.20\00:26:02.88
was based on this question.
00:26:02.91\00:26:04.96
And this was the question
that he raised and he put it
00:26:15.47\00:26:19.03
to a theologian, and
the theologian's answer was,
00:26:19.06\00:26:23.33
I thought inadequate, but
let me explain to you why.
00:26:23.36\00:26:28.69
The idea of hell has very
much colored Christianity for
00:26:28.73\00:26:33.34
hundreds of years, made
itself into art work that has
00:26:33.37\00:26:37.94
been fairly scary
by most standards.
00:26:37.98\00:26:40.94
The images of hell were
very vividly painted in churches
00:26:40.98\00:26:44.06
all through Europe.
00:26:44.10\00:26:45.63
Here is one of those portraits
and you can see at the top
00:26:45.66\00:26:48.06
armor clad angels
making sure no one gets away.
00:26:48.10\00:26:52.41
There are demons carrying
people down to another world
00:26:52.45\00:26:55.44
where they are being
tormented and in agony.
00:26:55.48\00:26:58.37
You do not see fire particularly
in this one, but you
00:26:58.41\00:27:01.94
certainly see people suffering.
00:27:01.97\00:27:04.21
And there's angels
making sure they stay there.
00:27:04.24\00:27:06.24
There are other images
throughout the world that depict
00:27:06.27\00:27:11.44
the commonly
held beliefs on hell.
00:27:11.47\00:27:14.31
Some of them are
quite nightmarish.
00:27:14.35\00:27:17.11
I'm sure that many of these
were painted and sculpted in
00:27:17.15\00:27:20.95
ways which they intended
very good purposes, they were
00:27:20.99\00:27:24.27
intended to keep people on
the straight and narrow and
00:27:24.31\00:27:28.49
make sure that they didn't
fall off their path with God.
00:27:28.52\00:27:31.97
I understand that, but I
would like to talk to you about
00:27:32.00\00:27:35.16
that, remember many people
think of the devil like this.
00:27:35.19\00:27:38.95
In fact, the Scripture says
that one of his problems was
00:27:38.98\00:27:42.70
he was so
gorgeous it got to him.
00:27:42.74\00:27:45.26
It caused him problems.
00:27:45.30\00:27:47.51
He was a beautiful
created being at one time called
00:27:47.54\00:27:51.34
Lucifer, the Morning Star
and he became the adversary.
00:27:51.38\00:27:55.48
It was he that said to
Eve, "you will not surely die. "
00:27:55.52\00:27:59.59
You will exist always.
00:27:59.63\00:28:02.22
Well some of you may
know who this man is.
00:28:04.09\00:28:06.44
This is John RW Stott, a
wonderful British minister who
00:28:06.48\00:28:10.69
just retired, a great
theologian and writer.
00:28:10.72\00:28:13.06
Probably the best evangelical
mind in Great Britain.
00:28:13.09\00:28:18.11
It was John RW Stott who
agrees with some of my thinking
00:28:18.15\00:28:23.13
on this when he took
this verse fairly seriously.
00:28:23.17\00:28:26.53
Where it says:
00:28:26.57\00:28:28.43
John RW Stott also has
questions about the traditional
00:28:34.31\00:28:37.59
view of hell, as we generally
have heard it throughout
00:28:37.63\00:28:40.87
the centuries.
00:28:40.91\00:28:42.46
He sees in this apparently
perishing is the end and not
00:28:42.50\00:28:49.27
everlasting life
in a different way.
00:28:49.31\00:28:53.81
Everlasting life is not
for everybody. John 3:16
00:28:53.85\00:28:57.95
So if you take a look at
the book of endings you will
00:28:57.99\00:29:02.81
see where everything ends.
00:29:02.84\00:29:04.40
Remember this is In the
Beginning and In the End,
00:29:04.43\00:29:07.22
our subject for tonight.
00:29:07.26\00:29:09.17
According to Scripture
fire comes down on those who are
00:29:09.21\00:29:12.38
trying to take new
Jerusalem by force.
00:29:12.41\00:29:15.00
As that fire does its job
it says that that is the end
00:29:15.04\00:29:19.08
of Hades and death.
00:29:19.11\00:29:20.76
All of this has to do with
our image of God, doesn't it?
00:29:20.80\00:29:24.73
I want to ask you this question,
just on a logical level.
00:29:24.76\00:29:28.66
I know that I'm going to
get, I feel the toes around me
00:29:32.35\00:29:36.38
as I am stepping here.
00:29:36.41\00:29:38.28
How much of heaven would
be enjoyable to you if you
00:29:38.31\00:29:44.44
believed, and you were
aware of, conscious of,
00:29:44.48\00:29:49.76
your mother, your
child, or best friend burning?
00:29:49.79\00:29:55.98
And in agony for every
single day of the rest of
00:29:56.01\00:30:02.16
your eternal life?
00:30:02.20\00:30:04.07
What would you
begin to think about God?
00:30:04.11\00:30:07.91
Is that what is going on?
00:30:07.95\00:30:10.13
Would you at some point
say enough, isn't that enough?
00:30:10.16\00:30:15.60
Is God trying to keep you
in line with that thinking
00:30:15.63\00:30:21.03
to make sure to keep
you humble and afraid?
00:30:21.06\00:30:24.27
Or what ever, fearful of Him?
00:30:24.30\00:30:26.39
Because I don't see
Scripture revealing a God that
00:30:26.43\00:30:29.48
somebody should be
afraid of, especially Jesus,
00:30:29.51\00:30:32.52
as a prime example.
00:30:32.56\00:30:34.79
I'm just placing that in
your mind because it seems like
00:30:36.60\00:30:41.29
Scripture says that at some
point death and Hades, which
00:30:41.33\00:30:45.30
is the Hebrew word, I mean
the Greek word, for the grave.
00:30:45.33\00:30:49.27
I assume that hell is a
painful place, as a common view.
00:31:00.79\00:31:04.70
That is why God wipes away
tears because there will be a
00:31:10.90\00:31:14.71
time when we shed tears
for those that weren't ready to
00:31:14.75\00:31:18.53
meet God, there
will be however an end.
00:31:18.56\00:31:23.63
I just want to place it in
your thoughts, and this will
00:31:23.67\00:31:27.64
be my final
point to make on that.
00:31:27.67\00:31:29.52
Jesus paid the price for
repentant sinners, isn't that
00:31:29.55\00:31:36.09
right, on the cross?
00:31:36.13\00:31:38.06
Jesus accepted the punishment,
if there was a punishment,
00:31:38.09\00:31:42.31
God let it fall on Him.
00:31:42.35\00:31:45.36
Not on us.
00:31:45.40\00:31:47.46
Now my question for you is,
did Jesus burn for eternity?
00:31:47.49\00:31:52.27
Obviously not!
00:31:54.03\00:31:55.96
Did He experience the
wrath of God, what ever that is?
00:31:56.00\00:31:59.29
What is the wrath of God?
00:31:59.33\00:32:01.70
I would suggest you that
the wrath of God is God stepping
00:32:01.74\00:32:05.43
away and saying, okay I
now accept your decision,
00:32:05.47\00:32:10.54
and I will be out of your life.
00:32:10.58\00:32:13.28
That is what Jesus
experienced on the cross.
00:32:13.32\00:32:17.49
"My God, my God,
why have you left me?"
00:32:17.52\00:32:21.12
It killed Jesus because
the source of life pulled away.
00:32:21.15\00:32:27.83
But did He burn for eternity?
00:32:27.87\00:32:31.17
If He didn't burn for eternity,
00:32:31.21\00:32:34.30
then He didn't pay full price.
00:32:34.34\00:32:37.39
That is a thought.
00:32:39.50\00:32:40.90
I appreciate the quietness
as you contemplate these
00:32:40.94\00:32:44.09
things, let's keep going.
00:32:44.12\00:32:48.03
Scripture says that as we
talk about these things in
00:32:48.06\00:32:52.74
these last days, that the
Bible actually predicts what
00:32:52.78\00:32:57.62
the message will be to
the world just before the end.
00:32:57.65\00:33:02.61
There is a picture in revelation
of an angel flying over
00:33:02.65\00:33:07.57
the world with a message.
00:33:07.61\00:33:09.21
Now you know the word
angel literally means messenger.
00:33:09.25\00:33:12.07
"Aggelos" means messenger.
00:33:12.10\00:33:13.88
This messenger
flies with a message.
00:33:13.92\00:33:16.28
What does he have
to say to the world?
00:33:16.31\00:33:18.64
He says this:
00:33:18.67\00:33:20.43
Worship God as Creator,
this is the message that this
00:33:49.83\00:33:52.77
angel brings to the world
just before the end comes.
00:33:52.80\00:33:55.71
Come back to God as Creator.
00:33:55.74\00:33:57.66
Come back to that
original and most basic of
00:33:57.69\00:34:01.01
relationships,
Creator to creature.
00:34:01.04\00:34:04.49
Come back and relate
to Him again in that way.
00:34:04.52\00:34:07.99
That will
prepare you for the end.
00:34:08.02\00:34:12.08
Now where else does it say
who made heaven and earth and
00:34:12.11\00:34:17.40
the sea, in that
order just, like that?
00:34:17.43\00:34:19.99
It is a reference to
one of the 10 Commandments.
00:34:20.03\00:34:22.87
The same order same
terms, it is a reference to the
00:34:29.17\00:34:31.53
memorial of creation
which was the Sabbath.
00:34:31.57\00:34:35.72
You know what is interesting
about the 10 Commandments?
00:34:35.75\00:34:38.25
However you believe the
rest of the Bible came to be,
00:34:38.29\00:34:41.71
this is the only part of
the Bible, this is my image,
00:34:41.75\00:34:45.16
Moses, I have some
important things to write down.
00:34:45.20\00:34:49.33
Say: Thou shall have no
other gods, no, I'll do it.
00:34:49.37\00:34:53.43
And God writes it down Himself,
it's the only part of the Bible
00:34:53.46\00:34:57.38
where God
literally writes it Himself.
00:34:57.41\00:35:00.42
in stone with His own finger.
00:35:00.45\00:35:02.21
It seems to be important.
00:35:02.24\00:35:03.93
"For in six days the Lord
made the heavens, the earth,
00:35:03.97\00:35:06.69
and the sea. "
00:35:06.72\00:35:07.74
This is apparently a harkening
back to worshiping the God,
00:35:07.78\00:35:12.16
who told us things way
back when? in the beginning.
00:35:12.19\00:35:16.03
The God who created.
00:35:16.06\00:35:17.63
Then that last
little phrase is important.
00:35:17.66\00:35:22.44
"Worship him who made
heaven and earth, the sea and"
00:35:22.48\00:35:27.06
"the springs of water. "
00:35:27.10\00:35:29.47
Now what is that a reference to?
00:35:29.51\00:35:31.55
Springs of water, what is that?
00:35:31.58\00:35:33.55
That is not in the
fourth commandment,
00:35:33.59\00:35:35.93
what is that a reference to?
00:35:35.96\00:35:39.09
It is apparently a reference to:
00:35:39.12\00:35:42.21
what is that
referring to? It's the flood!
00:35:47.61\00:35:50.36
Now wait a minute,
let's think about this.
00:35:50.40\00:35:53.95
It is a call to come
back to God, which God?
00:35:53.99\00:35:57.42
The God who made, the
God who made all things.
00:35:57.45\00:36:00.96
The Creator God for
the hour of His judgment is
00:36:01.00\00:36:04.48
about to come.
00:36:04.51\00:36:05.77
Judgment, did God ever
bring judgment before to planet
00:36:05.80\00:36:11.11
Earth? Oh yes He did.
00:36:11.14\00:36:13.56
When the waters were
sprung, and He used the waters
00:36:13.59\00:36:18.47
to flood the Earth.
00:36:18.50\00:36:19.94
So worship God seriously
because He is about ready to
00:36:19.97\00:36:25.84
do another flood like
event on planet Earth.
00:36:25.87\00:36:29.88
The Creator God is about
ready to step in again to the
00:36:29.92\00:36:33.86
history of planet Earth,
to the lives of man to what is
00:36:33.89\00:36:37.80
going on here, He's
going to step in again.
00:36:37.83\00:36:40.49
That seems to be the message,
the fountains of the great
00:36:40.53\00:36:45.13
deep are broken up.
00:36:45.16\00:36:47.12
Now what is interesting in
this revelation 14 reference,
00:36:47.15\00:36:50.69
is another angel comes
right after the first Angel that
00:36:50.73\00:36:54.24
calls us to worship
God, the Creator God.
00:36:54.27\00:36:57.52
He says that Babylon has fallen.
Babylon, where's Babylon?
00:36:57.56\00:37:01.94
How did Babylon get in this?
00:37:01.98\00:37:03.58
Come out of Babylon, where
do we see language like that?
00:37:13.32\00:37:17.61
Well we see it in
the book of beginnings.
00:37:17.65\00:37:19.92
We go back to the
book of beginnings where
00:37:19.96\00:37:22.84
Israel, Babylon and
the nations, and disunity
00:37:22.88\00:37:25.73
started on planet Earth.
00:37:25.76\00:37:27.52
We see Babylon mentioned
in the story of the Tower of
00:37:27.55\00:37:29.51
Babel, the founding
of the Babylon empire and
00:37:29.54\00:37:33.00
religion and world view, I
would even suggest as we take
00:37:33.03\00:37:35.90
a look at this in
just a few slides.
00:37:35.93\00:37:37.84
In that birth we
see several things.
00:37:42.82\00:37:45.42
It's apparently
the birth of languages.
00:37:45.46\00:37:47.99
Incidentally, evolutionists
have a difficult time
00:37:48.03\00:37:52.27
explaining all the variety
of languages we have because
00:37:52.31\00:37:55.27
they don't seem to come
from like this, they seem to be
00:37:55.30\00:37:58.23
different origins for
all the different bodies of
00:37:58.27\00:38:02.30
languages, but anyway.
00:38:02.33\00:38:04.18
Here's an explanation where
languages came from, nations.
00:38:04.21\00:38:09.54
Were false religion
comes from, false worldviews,
00:38:09.57\00:38:13.76
ideas of man's importance.
00:38:13.79\00:38:14.99
And perhaps even
naturalism, because it has been
00:38:15.03\00:38:18.43
suggested that one of
the reasons the Tower is that
00:38:18.47\00:38:21.79
they may be looking for
a study into the heavens,
00:38:21.82\00:38:25.07
perhaps looked for this
water and how it all happened.
00:38:25.10\00:38:27.92
Maybe to
understand naturalistically.
00:38:27.96\00:38:31.38
I would like to quote from
a woman by the name of Ellen
00:38:31.41\00:38:35.13
G. White, who is a famous
Christian author of the 19th
00:38:35.17\00:38:38.53
century, in fact no one
more wrote more words than
00:38:38.57\00:38:41.90
this woman, 16 million words.
00:38:41.94\00:38:44.79
But look what she wrote:
00:38:44.82\00:38:47.40
we are talking about the
Tower of Babel experience.
00:38:49.35\00:38:50.78
Why is it that all these
ancient civilizations are big
00:39:01.62\00:39:04.57
on building pyramid and
Ziggurats, getting off the
00:39:04.61\00:39:07.53
ground a bit.
00:39:07.57\00:39:09.02
There are also an observatory
type, they are looking
00:39:09.06\00:39:12.18
at the starry heavens.
00:39:12.21\00:39:13.81
The purpose of the
builders of the Tower of Babel.
00:39:29.21\00:39:32.47
Incidentally if you have
questions about historicity
00:39:32.51\00:39:35.71
of the book of Genesis and
what we call the patriarchical
00:39:35.74\00:39:38.89
period, the time of Abraham.
00:39:38.92\00:39:40.86
I like the reference of W.
F. Albright, whom I consider
00:39:40.90\00:39:44.44
to be the greatest biblical
archaeologist of all times.
00:39:44.48\00:39:47.57
He said:
00:39:47.61\00:39:49.16
He bases that on a number
of things that happened in
00:40:03.53\00:40:06.49
Abraham story, some of
the words that are fairly
00:40:06.53\00:40:09.46
technical to the period itself.
00:40:09.49\00:40:12.14
The second millennium.
00:40:12.18\00:40:14.55
We believe there were a
number of people that saw the
00:40:14.58\00:40:17.70
Babylon empire begin and
they were probably a number of
00:40:17.73\00:40:21.10
true worshipers of God
and felt awkward to be there.
00:40:21.13\00:40:24.46
One of those
would have been Abraham.
00:40:24.50\00:40:26.49
The call comes to Abraham,
founder of the Hebrew nation,
00:40:26.52\00:40:30.19
and the faith:
00:40:30.22\00:40:31.57
Chaldeans is
another word for Babylon.
00:40:37.25\00:40:39.56
Leave Babylon Abraham,
get away from there, get a way
00:40:40.90\00:40:43.93
from that religion, get
away from the worldview and come
00:40:43.96\00:40:46.96
and be a separate people.
00:40:46.99\00:40:48.26
I have a promised
land to take you to.
00:40:48.30\00:40:50.15
Come and leave Babylon.
00:40:50.19\00:40:53.19
Here in Genesis we have
the same message that the angel
00:40:53.23\00:40:56.67
is telling us
about at the end of time.
00:40:56.71\00:40:59.25
Leave Babylon,
well what is he leaving?
00:40:59.29\00:41:01.77
Well in Babylon there is a
fabulous story in the book of
00:41:01.80\00:41:05.93
Daniel where we see this
encounter of two world views.
00:41:05.97\00:41:09.84
Daniels worldview, the
world view of the Hebrews, and
00:41:09.88\00:41:13.72
the world view
of the Creator God.
00:41:13.75\00:41:15.24
And the Babylonian
worldview of religion.
00:41:15.27\00:41:17.36
Here we see a story where
there is handwriting on the
00:41:17.39\00:41:19.71
wall, do you know this story?
00:41:19.75\00:41:21.57
It is found in Daniel chapter
5, and in this story there
00:41:21.60\00:41:24.12
is a hand that appears and
writes some words before the
00:41:24.16\00:41:27.19
Babylonian king who is
feasting and having a good time.
00:41:27.22\00:41:30.80
It is a judgment message,
it is basically that is it for
00:41:30.84\00:41:34.38
Babylon, Babylon is done.
00:41:34.41\00:41:36.37
It is interesting
because the king cannot
00:41:36.40\00:41:39.23
interpret this
written word of God.
00:41:39.26\00:41:41.33
The word of God is written
by hand all wall in front of
00:41:41.37\00:41:43.98
him and he can't
make any sense of it.
00:41:44.02\00:41:45.78
I would like to suggest to
you that that is typical for
00:41:45.82\00:41:48.50
Babylon, they cannot
understand the written word.
00:41:48.53\00:41:50.44
The revelation, the narrative,
the worldview doesn't allow
00:41:50.48\00:41:53.11
for the narrative to be there.
00:41:53.14\00:41:56.18
The effect of the
Babylonian worldview is this,
00:41:56.22\00:41:58.04
the authority of God's
Word goes down and the authority
00:41:58.07\00:42:01.95
of man's word goes up.
00:42:01.99\00:42:03.81
It trumps God's word
whenever there is a question or
00:42:03.85\00:42:07.32
an issue, this is
the Babylonian worldview.
00:42:07.36\00:42:09.88
It is exactly what Abraham
was told to leave and now
00:42:09.92\00:42:13.57
we are told in the final
days to come back to the God,
00:42:13.61\00:42:17.66
the world view that includes
the word of God, and the
00:42:17.70\00:42:21.72
reference to God as Creator.
00:42:21.76\00:42:23.70
It says:
00:42:23.74\00:42:26.25
here's a prediction as we
have talked before that these
00:42:36.84\00:42:38.97
issues will be
forefront in the last days.
00:42:39.01\00:42:41.38
Please note this, the key is the
scoffers especially make fun of
00:42:52.12\00:42:57.25
the flood story, absolutely
scoff at the idea that God
00:42:57.28\00:43:01.37
stepped into history, again
the Babylonian worldview is
00:43:01.41\00:43:05.46
that God does not
step into history.
00:43:05.50\00:43:07.60
Mankind is his own creator,
and his own god, his own
00:43:07.64\00:43:11.99
intellectual deliver from
all the problems and so forth.
00:43:12.03\00:43:16.98
That is in conflict with
the worldview, scoffing takes
00:43:17.02\00:43:21.93
place when those come
into play with each other.
00:43:21.97\00:43:24.99
Speaking of Abraham and
the patriarchs of old that were
00:43:25.03\00:43:28.23
told to leave
Babylon and so on it says:
00:43:28.27\00:43:30.39
talking about what
happens in the end!
00:43:58.76\00:44:01.16
People like Abraham didn't
get it in this world, but were
00:44:01.20\00:44:04.97
looking forward to
something in the end.
00:44:05.00\00:44:07.32
A city that God has prepared.
00:44:07.36\00:44:09.30
Can I tell you
how important hope is?
00:44:09.34\00:44:12.15
Hope helps us deal with
any problem that we face.
00:44:12.18\00:44:16.63
If we believe that the
story ends on a happy note,
00:44:16.66\00:44:20.37
we can deal with
problems on the way, can't we?
00:44:20.40\00:44:24.04
Hope has power, and if
you believe the Big Bang that
00:44:24.08\00:44:28.96
goes to a Big Crunch and
the Earth burns up in the sun,
00:44:28.99\00:44:33.84
there is not a lot of
hope that message is there?
00:44:33.87\00:44:39.26
I'm just thinking
that hope is critical.
00:44:39.30\00:44:42.57
Why do people with
religious faith live longer?
00:44:42.61\00:44:45.33
You know there are studies now.
00:44:45.36\00:44:47.24
Studies done not by
Christian institutions,
00:44:47.28\00:44:49.78
but by mostly health
organizations that are studying
00:44:49.81\00:44:52.87
why is it that Christians
do better after operations
00:44:52.90\00:44:55.92
and simply live longer?
00:44:55.96\00:44:59.86
Again the emphasis might
be on hope, they have hope
00:44:59.90\00:45:03.63
and can deal with things.
00:45:03.66\00:45:05.29
Hope has a powerful
effect on healing processes.
00:45:05.32\00:45:09.27
It is very interesting.
00:45:09.31\00:45:12.27
So God wants us to have
hope and to look toward the
00:45:22.62\00:45:26.13
future with good thoughts.
00:45:26.17\00:45:29.00
God wants to give
us a future and a hope.
00:45:29.03\00:45:31.47
You know what? I'm going
to throw one little thought in
00:45:31.50\00:45:35.10
here about who Jesus is
in this whole creation story.
00:45:35.13\00:45:39.40
Apostle John, when he
wrote the Gospel of John, in the
00:45:39.44\00:45:42.72
first Chapter you might
see that he plays around with
00:45:42.76\00:45:46.01
wording that sounds
similar to Genesis 1.
00:45:46.04\00:45:49.53
"In the beginning was the
word and the word was with God"
00:45:49.57\00:45:53.07
"and the Word was God. "
00:45:53.11\00:45:54.51
And things like
that in John one.
00:45:54.54\00:45:56.42
But he also says in John 1:3:
00:45:56.45\00:45:58.40
and the Greek is very
clear, how is your Greek?
00:46:03.43\00:46:05.93
All things
through Jesus became so.
00:46:22.69\00:46:27.32
They began the were
genesis through Jesus.
00:46:27.35\00:46:30.61
Now that gives us an
interesting slant as we look at
00:46:30.65\00:46:34.00
the man Jesus.
00:46:34.03\00:46:35.75
It is Jesus that is the
hope for a disunited world.
00:46:35.79\00:46:41.35
Because he has a promised
for this, He has a place
00:46:41.39\00:46:46.92
prepared for us
in the new Jerusalem.
00:46:46.95\00:46:49.83
We will be united
as one people again.
00:46:49.87\00:46:52.71
This is the reverse of
the Tower of Babel, when the
00:47:04.71\00:47:08.53
nations were split and
people went different ways with
00:47:08.56\00:47:12.35
different languages.
00:47:12.38\00:47:14.07
This is the
promise of reuniting.
00:47:14.10\00:47:15.60
In the book of endings we
see how the things that started
00:47:15.63\00:47:18.51
in the book of beginnings
come to a good conclusion.
00:47:18.55\00:47:21.64
When we all come together again.
00:47:21.67\00:47:23.89
We are told that Jesus
prepares a place for us in His
00:47:23.93\00:47:27.21
Father's mansion,
in His Father's house.
00:47:27.25\00:47:29.51
It also says in the other
parts of Scripture that we will
00:47:29.55\00:47:32.98
be able to build
homes in the country.
00:47:33.01\00:47:35.02
I like that.
00:47:35.06\00:47:37.21
I suspect that our
understanding is not.
00:47:52.58\00:47:55.63
We probably should be
humbled as we look at the great
00:47:55.66\00:47:59.86
things in creation
and imagine who God is.
00:47:59.90\00:48:04.70
Who am I? Why am I here?
Where my going? Am I alone?
00:48:04.74\00:48:08.42
Same questions I asked at the
beginning of the first night.
00:48:08.46\00:48:11.72
Remember George Harrison's
answer as to how important it
00:48:11.75\00:48:14.98
was to him to
find answers to this.
00:48:15.01\00:48:17.23
Who am I? What
does science answer?
00:48:17.26\00:48:19.44
Science answers this way:
00:48:19.48\00:48:21.86
This is harsh on
my interpretation but:
00:48:24.96\00:48:26.59
I'm not sure if that
resonates well with you.
00:48:41.94\00:48:46.41
Or if the evidence
even points that way.
00:48:46.44\00:48:50.87
Are we alone? Or are we?
00:48:50.90\00:48:56.18
Thank you so much for hanging
in there from this week of
00:48:56.21\00:49:01.42
discussions and I
hope you enjoyed it.
00:49:01.46\00:49:03.10
Thank you again.
00:49:03.13\00:49:07.30
We just looked at the
conclusion of our series,
00:49:11.47\00:49:15.29
In the Beginning and In the End.
00:49:15.33\00:49:17.42
Let's recap where we have
gone for these seven programs.
00:49:17.45\00:49:22.07
In our first program, In
The Beginning, Hydrogen Or God?
00:49:22.11\00:49:26.70
We talked about the
great debate itself on origins.
00:49:26.73\00:49:29.88
The history of the debate.
00:49:29.91\00:49:31.62
How centuries ago it was
not unusual for most scientists
00:49:31.66\00:49:36.32
to believe in
the biblical account,
00:49:36.36\00:49:38.24
like Sir Isaac Newton.
00:49:38.28\00:49:39.80
He believed in the biblical
account of how we got here.
00:49:39.84\00:49:41.76
Six days at the hand of God.
00:49:41.80\00:49:45.31
As humanism entered in Western
culture, there was a more
00:49:45.35\00:49:50.66
openness to other explanations
as scientists began to
00:49:50.69\00:49:55.97
look and observe more of nature.
00:49:56.00\00:49:58.35
They began to look for
naturalistic explanations for
00:49:58.39\00:50:01.46
how things operated and
where they may have come from.
00:50:01.49\00:50:04.53
They began to see
longer age as they took a look
00:50:04.56\00:50:08.50
at nature and over a period of
time Western science has moved
00:50:08.54\00:50:13.64
away from a biblical, or
theistic worldview into an
00:50:13.68\00:50:18.35
atheistic worldview, or
the worldview where nature is
00:50:18.39\00:50:22.99
is entirely driven by law and is
without the hand of a Creator.
00:50:23.02\00:50:27.19
That seems to be the
popular belief right now among
00:50:27.23\00:50:30.75
scientists and it is what
is taught in our public school
00:50:30.78\00:50:35.07
systems and is nevertheless
a debate that most Americans
00:50:35.10\00:50:39.36
actually do not believe.
00:50:39.39\00:50:42.18
In the areas of creation we
took a look at how 40 to 45%,
00:50:42.22\00:50:46.82
according to some polls,
of Americans believe in the
00:50:46.85\00:50:49.16
biblical account.
00:50:49.20\00:50:50.52
There is still this controversy,
this conflict between
00:50:50.55\00:50:53.78
the two great world
views as to how we got here
00:50:53.82\00:50:56.72
In the
Beginning, Hydrogen or God?
00:50:56.76\00:50:59.84
In our second program we
took a look at Where Did God Go?
00:50:59.88\00:51:04.55
The great question that
evolutionists bring up as to if
00:51:04.59\00:51:08.56
there is indeed a creator
God, a loving God, then why is
00:51:08.59\00:51:12.53
their pain and
suffering in the world?
00:51:12.57\00:51:14.61
Why do we see death? Why do
we see things falling apart?
00:51:14.65\00:51:19.10
What is the explanation for
that if God is truly a loving
00:51:19.14\00:51:23.55
God, why is there evil
operating on this planet?
00:51:23.59\00:51:26.04
We took a look at that
and the importance of the
00:51:26.08\00:51:29.16
additional information
that Scripture brings.
00:51:29.19\00:51:32.20
The concepts of two books
of God, the book of nature
00:51:32.24\00:51:37.44
and the book of Revelation.
00:51:37.48\00:51:39.03
How you need both of them
to get a complete picture of
00:51:39.06\00:51:42.58
how the universe is operating,
and the history of this
00:51:42.62\00:51:46.31
planet, so we took a look
at that in where did God go?
00:51:46.34\00:51:49.51
Of course we ended with a
hopeful thought that God has
00:51:49.55\00:51:52.87
not gone far, in fact He
is making plans to come back.
00:51:52.91\00:51:57.13
On program number 3, we
took a look very specifically
00:51:57.17\00:52:01.35
the origins of man
00:52:01.39\00:52:02.98
In the Beginning,
Pond Scum or Divine Hand?
00:52:03.02\00:52:06.24
We took a look
at the Neanderthal
00:52:06.27\00:52:09.20
discoveries in Europe.
00:52:09.23\00:52:11.59
We looked at Darwin's
views of perhaps how man evolved
00:52:11.63\00:52:16.39
from a branch of primates,
monkeys, the Simiada, from
00:52:16.43\00:52:20.11
the old world that he
believe that man evolved from.
00:52:20.14\00:52:23.79
What impacts that
might have on our view of
00:52:23.83\00:52:28.17
ourselves and society.
00:52:28.20\00:52:30.29
How sometimes Darwinistic
thinking has affected, not
00:52:30.33\00:52:34.54
everybody, but some into
some very radical views like
00:52:34.58\00:52:38.07
eugenics, and some of the
views that Adolf Hitler adopted
00:52:38.11\00:52:41.57
in his plans for Europe.
00:52:41.60\00:52:45.10
We saw a number things
that came with social Darwinism
00:52:45.13\00:52:50.29
as we have talked about before.
00:52:50.32\00:52:52.20
That was in program number 3,
00:52:52.24\00:52:54.27
Pond Scum or Divine Hand?
00:52:54.31\00:52:56.27
Program number 4 we
looked at a very popular subject
00:52:56.31\00:52:59.15
of Dragons and Dinosaurs.
00:52:59.19\00:53:01.28
Everybody likes dinosaurs,
young and old seem to be
00:53:01.31\00:53:04.11
curious about that subject.
00:53:04.14\00:53:06.56
A question people often
ask is, does the Bible have any
00:53:06.60\00:53:10.84
hint as to whether or
not there were dinosaurs?
00:53:10.88\00:53:14.44
We took a look at a few
verses that may be hinted at
00:53:14.47\00:53:17.16
large reptiles that
God could have created.
00:53:17.20\00:53:19.60
We took a look at the book
of Job and some other things.
00:53:19.64\00:53:22.25
We did a survey in the
history of dinosaur discoveries
00:53:22.29\00:53:25.19
in Western Europe and how
some of the very first bones
00:53:25.22\00:53:28.09
that were found,
were found in England.
00:53:28.12\00:53:30.64
They were identified as
reptile bones, a tooth and a
00:53:30.68\00:53:34.54
backbone that seem to be
of some reptile that was much
00:53:34.57\00:53:38.40
larger than
anything they had ever seen.
00:53:38.43\00:53:40.46
For example they found a
dinosaur tooth that was in the
00:53:40.49\00:53:44.41
shape of a iguana's
tooth except it was much,
00:53:44.44\00:53:47.18
much larger.
00:53:47.22\00:53:48.83
This is the
beginning of the discovery of
00:53:48.86\00:53:51.34
Iguanodon dinosaur.
00:53:51.37\00:53:54.44
They also found a vertebrae
like this, this is from
00:53:54.47\00:54:00.18
England as well,
also from an Iguanodon.
00:54:00.22\00:54:02.99
They start to think what
kind of animal lived that had
00:54:03.02\00:54:06.71
this kind of a backbone?
00:54:06.74\00:54:08.87
So we took a look at dinosaurs
and dragons in program number 4.
00:54:10.35\00:54:13.47
In program number 5,
we took a look at what I
00:54:13.50\00:54:17.22
consider to be the very
best scientific argument
00:54:17.25\00:54:20.40
against creationism
and that is the subject of
00:54:20.43\00:54:23.54
how old things are.
00:54:23.58\00:54:25.09
In the beginning, when was that?
00:54:25.12\00:54:26.94
We took a look at radiometric
dating and how it seems
00:54:26.98\00:54:30.94
if those fundamental
beliefs on the system of dating
00:54:30.97\00:54:34.86
things through radio active
decay, if those principles of
00:54:34.90\00:54:38.81
assumptions are correct,
it is a difficult challenge
00:54:38.84\00:54:42.12
for creationist to answer.
00:54:42.16\00:54:44.29
There are dates of rocks
between fossil layers that seem
00:54:44.32\00:54:47.89
to indicate the world has
been here millions of years.
00:54:47.92\00:54:51.01
We offered some insight to
perhaps how some of that might
00:54:51.05\00:54:54.11
be explained, it
still remains a big issue.
00:54:54.14\00:54:56.85
We took a look at the
book of Genesis and how Genesis
00:54:56.89\00:55:00.27
seems to indicate great
interest in chronology and how
00:55:00.30\00:55:03.90
the seven day creation
week is still existing in our
00:55:03.93\00:55:07.49
weekly calendars today.
00:55:07.52\00:55:09.08
There was no other great
explanation for the origin of
00:55:09.11\00:55:13.24
the weekly cycle than
the creation accounts.
00:55:13.27\00:55:16.73
It seems to be a
holdover from those early days.
00:55:16.77\00:55:20.19
In program number
6 we took a look at,
00:55:20.23\00:55:23.33
In the
Beginning There Was Water.
00:55:23.36\00:55:27.11
We talked about the importance
of water and the formation of
00:55:27.15\00:55:30.70
the earths crust and it seems
like a fossil record is a record
00:55:30.74\00:55:34.26
of water deposit.
00:55:34.30\00:55:36.51
The limestone and sandstone
that we see in the Geologic
00:55:36.54\00:55:39.46
Column, the stratus of rocks
that are in the earth's crust
00:55:39.49\00:55:42.68
seems to indicate the presence
of water action over time.
00:55:42.71\00:55:45.98
Did it happen quickly as
the creation account of Noah's
00:55:46.02\00:55:49.21
flood would say, or did it
happen through millions of years
00:55:49.25\00:55:51.44
as evolutionists would say.
00:55:51.48\00:55:53.46
We took a look at that as well.
00:55:53.50\00:55:55.41
We looked at what we
considered to be the second good
00:55:55.45\00:55:58.33
question that evolutionists
pose to creationist.
00:55:58.36\00:56:01.05
That is if you believe
in creation, and even if you
00:56:01.08\00:56:03.84
believe in Noah's
flood, then how can you explain
00:56:03.88\00:56:06.68
that the fossils are
always seemingly organized
00:56:06.72\00:56:09.49
in a certain order.
00:56:09.53\00:56:10.79
The dinosaurs are
always at this layer and so on.
00:56:10.83\00:56:13.42
It seems to be a
consistency in the fossil order.
00:56:13.46\00:56:15.98
On the other hand the other
problem for revolutionists is
00:56:16.02\00:56:19.53
the missing links between
the supposed evolution of one
00:56:19.56\00:56:23.04
kind of animal
into another kind.
00:56:23.08\00:56:25.33
Like let's say,
a mouse into a bat.
00:56:25.37\00:56:27.56
Why are there no fossil
records of half mice, half bats,
00:56:27.59\00:56:32.00
and so forth, we took
a look at those issues in
00:56:32.03\00:56:33.91
program number 6.
00:56:33.95\00:56:35.94
In the
Beginning There Was Water.
00:56:35.97\00:56:38.53
As you just saw, we
conclude with program number 7.
00:56:38.56\00:56:42.25
In the Beginning and In the End.
00:56:42.28\00:56:45.07
What happens now
before planet Earth?
00:56:45.11\00:56:49.03
We took a look at some of the
scientific models that guesses
00:56:49.07\00:56:51.76
what takes place in the
future here on planet Earth.
00:56:51.80\00:56:55.47
Does the sun burn out and
the planet with it before the
00:56:55.50\00:57:00.04
Big Bang contracts back
on itself into a Big Crunch?
00:57:00.07\00:57:04.57
Those are the
theories so stating.
00:57:04.61\00:57:05.98
We want you to leave with a
hopeful view and that is that
00:57:06.02\00:57:09.62
not necessarily the one
that Darwin thought that
00:57:09.65\00:57:12.10
creationist were espousing,
like the Biblical concept of
00:57:12.14\00:57:16.12
like hell burning for ever.
00:57:16.16\00:57:17.98
We took another look at
the Bible verses about hell and
00:57:18.02\00:57:20.61
whether or not it was
eternal and we suggested
00:57:20.65\00:57:23.13
that maybe we ought to
take another look at that.
00:57:23.16\00:57:25.57
Instead God has a plan for
us that is a positive future,
00:57:25.61\00:57:30.35
a hopeful future, something
we can look forward to.
00:57:30.38\00:57:33.31
In the Beginning and In the
End, God always intended for
00:57:33.34\00:57:38.41
it be a joyful
planet for us to live on.
00:57:38.44\00:57:40.93
In the beginning He
created a wonderful world with a
00:57:40.97\00:57:44.35
garden in the middle of it
that Adam and Eve lived in.
00:57:44.39\00:57:47.85
He is looking forward to
the day that He can restore this
00:57:47.89\00:57:51.32
planet to its original
perfection and place us,
00:57:51.36\00:57:55.80
with Him, in a
perfect, perfect creation.
00:57:55.83\00:57:59.59
That is what God's plan is.
00:57:59.62\00:58:01.39
He plans for you to be
there and for me to be there.
00:58:01.43\00:58:05.08
Let's make sure we are there.
00:58:05.12\00:58:07.39
Thank you
00:58:07.42\00:58:09.12