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00:13 >>Eric Flickinger: Welcome to "Sabbath School,"
00:15 brought to you by It Is Written.
00:17 Thanks for joining us today.
00:18 We are on a 13-week journey through an incredible subject,
00:23 how to study Bible prophecy.
00:25 If you happen to have missed previous episodes,
00:28 be sure to go back and take a look at them.
00:30 You can find them on itiswritten.tv.
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00:38 Today, we're going to take a look at Ruth and Esther.
00:42 This is an exciting subject-- or exciting subjects--
00:46 as we take a look at the concept of the bride in the Bible,
00:51 especially in Bible prophecy.
00:52 You're going to be blessed by today's study.
00:54 Let's begin with prayer.
00:56 Father, we thank You for being with us today
00:58 as You have been in the past,
01:00 and we anticipate that, once again,
01:01 You're going to open our eyes, our hearts,
01:04 our minds to significant and deep themes
01:07 in the study of Bible prophecy.
01:09 We ask Your blessing upon us, and we thank You,
01:11 in Jesus' name, amen.
01:14 Well, with us today to guide us through our study
01:16 is the author of this quarter's
01:18 "Sabbath School" lesson, and that is
01:20 Pastor Shawn Boonstra. Shawn, we're glad you're here.
01:22 >>Shawn Boonstra: Thanks for having me back.
01:23 It's always nice to get a return invitation, a repeat.
01:26 >>Eric: And we've still got a couple weeks left,
01:28 so we still have options of not--of disinviting you.
01:31 >>Shawn: I can still be canceled.
01:32 >>Eric: You can still be canceled. I don't think
01:34 it's going to happen, but we'll see how today goes.
01:35 >>Shawn: I'll see what I can do to get canceled. [both laugh]
01:38 >>Eric: We're looking at Ruth and Esther,
01:40 Ruth and Esther here.
01:41 This concept, the biblical metaphor of a bride,
01:45 why is this something that you're
01:47 particularly interested in?
01:49 >>Shawn: Well, all right.
01:51 There's a, there's a personal level of engagement.
01:53 I grew up in a predominantly male house,
01:56 so just, here's Shawn.
01:59 And now I've been married to this incredible woman
02:01 for 32-plus years, had two daughters,
02:06 and got quite an education along the way.
02:08 A house full of boys is not the same
02:10 as a house full of girls.
02:11 There are some differences, and here's what I know.
02:15 I thought I was in love with my wife the day I met her.
02:18 I mean, I was just, I was gushing.
02:20 I told her I loved her like almost right away,
02:22 and I was just like head over heels.
02:24 But I had no idea how much stronger
02:26 that would get as the years went by,
02:28 and I know for a fact I would do anything for her.
02:32 I would throw myself on a grenade
02:33 to make sure she lives.
02:36 And I started to think about that.
02:37 It's like, that appears to be hardwired into a lot of guys,
02:40 and I understand that today people are saying, "No, no, no,
02:44 there's no hardwiring of male and female in the brain."
02:46 It's like, yeah, there absolutely is,
02:49 there really is. And while there's overlap,
02:52 there are, you know, males that tend to have
02:54 some female-typical traits and vice versa.
02:58 Generally speaking, there are patterns to our behavior.
03:01 And for guys, yeah, we want to defend our wife,
03:05 we want to protect our wife,
03:07 and I'm thinking, well, no wonder, you know,
03:10 it's more than, "Oh, I love you"
03:12 and soft feelings when Jesus says, "You are my bride."
03:15 I think in marriage we can learn something
03:17 about how He feels about us.
03:20 Jesus would throw Himself on a grenade for me?
03:23 Well, yeah, figuratively speaking.
03:25 But literally speaking, He went to a cross for me
03:28 to make sure I would survive.
03:30 He is the heavenly husband. We are the heavenly bride.
03:34 And so, when I see the bride show up in prophecy,
03:36 I'm thinking, this is ripe for understanding.
03:39 And we're going to look at a couple of famous brides
03:43 in Scripture.
03:44 And I know that we're not going to have time in half an hour
03:47 to even get close.
03:48 I guess what I'm hoping is that you'll take
03:50 a few seed thoughts into your "Sabbath School" class
03:53 or that you'll spend some time in the Word digging
03:55 so that you come to your class with a real awareness
03:58 of some of the prophetic themes
03:59 you find in these two famous brides
04:01 and what we might learn about what's coming down the pike.
04:04 >>Eric: So we've got Ruth and Esther that we're going to try
04:06 to cover this week. Let's start with Ruth.
04:08 >>Shawn: Okay, all right, the story begins with tragedy,
04:13 kind of like the whole human story.
04:15 There's death, there's famine,
04:17 and, and again, we want to be really careful
04:20 that when bad things happen, sometimes it's our fault.
04:24 You know, with Israel, we know for a fact when Assyria was able
04:27 to come into the northern tribes, Babylon was able
04:29 to come in, that was their fault.
04:32 But we have to be really careful when we look at a situation
04:35 like the story of Ruth.
04:36 One of the first things we can learn is,
04:38 is she at fault for all of the hardship?
04:41 No, no, and we see examples of that elsewhere, like Job.
04:47 Job is afflicted, and it's not his fault.
04:50 So that also happens.
04:52 It's one of the first things that, that I see.
04:55 Now, when the entire land of Israel
04:57 is going through famine,
04:58 there's a pretty good chance that something was remiss.
05:01 Leviticus 26, this is verse 3, God says to Israel,
05:05 "If you walk [on] my statutes and observe my commandments
05:07 "and do them, then I will give you your rains
05:10 "in their season,...the land shall yield its increase,
05:12 ...the trees of the field shall yield their fruit."
05:15 God said, "If you stay in the covenant with me,
05:18 the land will be abundant."
05:19 In this story, the land's undergoing famine.
05:23 There's a lot of hardship.
05:24 And the point that God's illustrating
05:26 is it didn't have to be like this,
05:28 "It's not me so much lashing out at you
05:31 "as you let go of my hand.
05:32 "And the only way this works
05:34 "is if I'm running the show, and I'm not going
05:37 to force myself on you," so they let go of God's hand,
05:40 and, and they went the same way
05:42 every other nation does, so-- there's other details in here.
05:46 >>Eric: So walk us through this story of Ruth.
05:48 Ruth talks about a kinsman-redeemer.
05:50 What do we learn from this concept
05:52 of a kinsman-redeemer?
05:53 >>Shawn: So much, so much.
05:55 God instituted laws to take care of the poor.
05:58 If you go back and look, you know,
06:01 in the medieval period, well, a little later,
06:03 1600s, 1700s, a lot of Western Christians
06:06 were starting to refer to the system
06:09 that the Hebrews lived under as the Hebrew Republic.
06:12 It had a lot of features that were very republic-like,
06:16 and God had woven in all kinds of things to help people,
06:20 including mandates that would take care of the poor.
06:23 You're not allowed to forget the needy.
06:26 And we still see that in last-day events.
06:27 God--Jesus says in Matthew 25,
06:29 "I was hungry. You didn't feed me."
06:32 "Well, where did we see You, Lord?"
06:33 "You didn't feed the hungry.
06:34 I expected that of you."
06:36 So there was a law that provided for gleaning.
06:38 You weren't allowed to take everything off your own field.
06:40 You had to leave some on the edges for the poor,
06:44 for dispossessed people, like Ruth is.
06:47 Ruth is a dispossessed bride, which is what we all are,
06:50 which should ring a bell.
06:51 Wait a minute, so there's a bride in Revelation.
06:54 Was she once dispossessed?
06:56 Yeah, yeah, we handed the keys to this planet
06:58 over to a fallen angel.
07:00 We gave up what was our inheritance through Christ,
07:03 and Christ wins it back for us.
07:05 And we're--repossessed is the wrong word, but,
07:08 you know, we're no longer dispossessed from the land.
07:12 And the kinsman-redeemer is another provision God made.
07:16 In that structure, a widow was in big trouble.
07:20 She didn't have land, she didn't have an inheritance,
07:22 and so on,
07:24 and there's a remedy for that as well.
07:27 A near relative was to take you in and take care of you,
07:31 and so you're in the inheritance again.
07:34 And I look at that, and I'm thinking, well,
07:36 isn't Jesus a near relative?
07:39 He not only made us in His image,
07:41 we know Jesus is the Creator
07:43 from John 1, Colossians 1, Hebrews 1.
07:46 Not only did He make us in His image,
07:49 making us related to Him,
07:51 He identifies with us from Eden all the way
07:54 to the Exodus, He's present in the cloud,
07:56 He becomes one of us, God in human flesh,
08:01 and then He takes our penalty on Himself.
08:03 We are quite literally saved by a kinsman-redeemer,
08:06 Somebody who is a near relative, who is one of us.
08:10 >>Eric: So that's, that's powerful.
08:11 And not only is this, this kinsman-redeemer--
08:14 there's an expectation that this kinsman-redeemer would step in.
08:19 But in the story of Boaz and Ruth,
08:21 not only is he expected to do so, he wants to do so.
08:25 He intentionally does so with his heart.
08:31 So walk us through that.
08:32 >>Shawn: Yeah, and here's what's interesting.
08:33 In the story of Boaz and Ruth, you don't have somebody saying,
08:36 "All right, you see the poor girl
08:37 on the edge of the field, Boaz? You know what your duty is?"
08:40 "No, what's my duty?" "Well, take a look at the laws."
08:42 "Ahhh, I guess I'd better." It's not like that at all.
08:45 This reflects God's attitude toward you.
08:49 This is how Jesus feels about you.
08:51 Ruth 2, verse 8: "Then Boaz said to Ruth,
08:54 'Now, listen, my daughter'"-- it's on his own initiative--
08:57 "'do not go to glean in another field
08:59 "'or leave this one [alone], but keep close
09:02 to my young women.'"
09:03 He sees her. He's smitten. He's like, "Okay."
09:07 That's the way I felt about Jean.
09:08 The first I ever saw her, I was talking to her dad
09:11 in his living room. The poor guy brought me home.
09:14 And, you know, why would you ever bring a 19-year-old male
09:17 into your house if you've got daughters?
09:18 It's like that's-- but I saw a picture
09:21 on the sofa table behind him, and it was a picture of Jean.
09:24 And I stopped the conversation at one point:
09:26 "Is that your daughter? I need to meet this girl."
09:29 This is Boaz. That girl there--
09:32 "Don't go glean somewhere else."
09:34 She could have-- She could have gone
09:35 to another wealthy person's field
09:36 and taken the--"No, stay here with me."
09:40 That's how God feels about you.
09:41 You might be dispossessed, you might be broken,
09:43 but He looks down into this world,
09:44 He sees you, and He says,
09:46 "Don't go somewhere else, don't go. You belong with me."
09:50 >>Eric: That's pretty powerful, beautiful parallel.
09:53 You also do something interesting on Tuesday's lesson.
09:55 You tug--you bring in the investigative judgment
09:58 into this. How does that fit in?
10:01 >>Shawn: It's absolutely in there,
10:02 and these are the details that blow my mind.
10:05 It's when you keep finding prophetic themes woven through
10:08 the stories in anticipation of what's going to happen.
10:11 You know you're on the right track.
10:12 So, Boaz wants to marry Ruth,
10:16 and he's a near relative. He's a kinsman-redeemer.
10:18 But what does he discover in the process
10:21 of "I want this girl"? There's a closer relative.
10:24 There's a closer relative with a bigger claim on the girl.
10:28 Ruth 12, he decides he wants her. He has to sort this out.
10:31 This is Ruth 3 and verse 12, I should say:
10:34 "And now it is true that I am a redeemer," he says.
10:37 "Yet there is a redeemer nearer than I."
10:39 Do we have somebody that we are more closely aligned with
10:43 that has a claim on this planet than we are to Jesus?
10:47 Jesus is our kinsman-redeemer, but does somebody
10:49 have a prior claim on us?
10:51 >>Eric: It's a bit of an illegitimate claim,
10:52 but he claims to have it. >>Shawn: We gave him the keys.
10:55 He believes he owns the place. He says in Job, chapter 1,
10:58 "I've been just walking to and fro on the earth."
10:59 He's not saying, "I went for a stroll."
11:01 Feet on the earth is a symbol of ownership, right?
11:04 He comes to Jesus and says, "If you just bow down to me,
11:07 I'll just give this all back."
11:08 He claims that he owns this. He claims that he owns us.
11:11 And to an extent, there's some truth
11:13 in that because we willingly put us under--
11:16 ourselves under his dominion.
11:19 And does he have a legitimate claim
11:22 on us as human beings? Yeah, we're sinners.
11:25 Do we rightfully on our own belong
11:27 in the kingdom of heaven? No. So in some ways,
11:30 this fallen angel is a closer relative
11:33 because our personality, our character
11:35 is more closely aligned with him.
11:39 He even disputes about the body of Moses.
11:40 Moses gets raised from the dead,
11:42 we see in Jude.
11:43 The devil's saying, "No fair, you can't do that. Mine!"
11:46 Closer relative. So what does Boaz have to do?
11:49 He has to meet with the elders
11:51 to get a decision that he can be the redeemer.
11:54 They meet at the gate of the city,
11:56 which is where the elders gathered for judgment.
12:01 That's where the judgment was held.
12:04 Boaz has to earn the right to have the bride.
12:08 And at the end of that story, a shoe changes hands.
12:11 It's a symbol of the transfer of who you belong to,
12:14 of ownership.
12:15 So we have Jesus who said, "Look, I'm going to go away,
12:19 and I will come again."
12:20 And we know prophetically that before Jesus returns
12:24 in Daniel, chapter 7,
12:25 the books of judgment are open.
12:26 They declare, "Yes, You are the Son of Man.
12:29 The world belongs to You. Every nation belongs to You.
12:32 You're the new rightful King."
12:33 He goes away, and once the judgment is held,
12:36 He comes back and gets His bride.
12:38 The New Jerusalem comes down
12:39 as a bride out of heaven.
12:40 We have the wedding supper of the Lamb.
12:42 But it's after He goes away to the judgment,
12:46 and it's determined that yes,
12:48 You are the rightful kinsman-redeemer.
12:51 >>Eric: Beautiful picture there. >>Shawn: Yeah.
12:54 >>Eric: There's more to this story than we can fit
12:56 in the lesson. Tell us about the companion book.
12:58 >>Shawn: The companion book, I think they called it
13:00 "How to Study Prophecy."
13:01 I've never titled anything in my whole life.
13:03 Somebody else put a title on that.
13:06 But it is true.
13:07 And again, it's not going to be an exegetical guide,
13:09 here's principle one, two, and three.
13:11 We're just looking at key themes in the Psalms and in the stories
13:14 of the Old Testament, saying, "What does this do to inform us
13:18 when we're reading a book like Revelation?"
13:20 And there's material in there that we're not going
13:22 to cover in the show today and is not in the quarterly.
13:25 You probably want to add that to your study.
13:26 >>Eric: Absolutely.
13:27 If you'd like to do that, you can find the book
13:29 at itiswritten.shop.
13:31 Again, that's at itiswritten.shop.
13:33 Just look for the companion book to this quarter's
13:36 "Sabbath School" lesson.
13:37 Pick it up, read it, study it,
13:39 share it with people in class,
13:41 share it with people that you know in church
13:44 or around the community.
13:45 Give them some encouragement, give them some hope,
13:47 give them some things to chew on
13:48 and to think about, and they will be blessed
13:51 as much as you.
13:52 We're going to be back in just a moment
13:54 as we look at the story of Esther
13:56 and what we can learn from the story of Esther
13:58 about end-time Bible prophecy.
13:59 We'll be right back.
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15:09 >>Eric: Welcome back to "Sabbath School,"
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15:13 We're looking at the stories of Ruth and Esther
15:16 as we compare them to events that are going
15:18 to be happening in the near future,
15:21 as far as Bible prophecy is concerned,
15:23 learning some interesting things.
15:24 Shawn, we looked at Ruth in the first half
15:27 of today's episode. Let's shift gears.
15:29 Wednesday, you talk about Esther
15:32 and kind of an interesting parallel
15:34 between Haman and Satan. >>Shawn: Yeah, I know. And like,
15:37 let's go right for the most sort of exciting bit.
15:42 Yeah, it's true, Haman is a pretty evil character.
15:45 Who is Haman? He's an Agagite.
15:47 That's how he's introduced.
15:49 Well, who are Agagites?
15:50 Well, the Amalekites had a king named Agag
15:54 in 1 Samuel, chapter 15.
15:56 Saul is told, you've got to get rid of Agag.
16:00 You've got to get rid of him.
16:02 And, of course, he second-guesses.
16:03 He applies human reason: Well, God's too nice,
16:06 and maybe we shouldn't, and that can't be accurate.
16:10 And that's where we find out that God really knows
16:12 what He's doing. Had Agag been eliminated--
16:16 there was no hope for Agag; we can trust God on that.
16:18 At that point, there is no more hope.
16:21 Agag's a notorious enemy of God's people.
16:23 He's a serious problem.
16:24 And you start going down his family line,
16:26 and who becomes the serious problem
16:28 in Persia for the Jews? It's Haman the Agagite.
16:32 So maybe God knows what He's doing when He says,
16:35 "I'm sorry, but that segment
16:37 of the population needs to go away."
16:39 Maybe there is no more hope.
16:41 Maybe there is a problem, a much bigger problem coming
16:43 if we're not listening to what God does.
16:46 We don't want to second-guess God.
16:48 And I agree, I don't like the fact that God says,
16:50 "Yeah, nobody can survive this one."
16:52 Okay, that makes me squirm a little. I wouldn't like that.
16:56 But as you continue to study prophecy in detail,
16:58 you start to find out, well,
17:00 maybe God knew something we didn't because
17:01 maybe this is the apogee-- the apex of evil,
17:07 and maybe it only gets worse from here,
17:09 and maybe God is trying to stop worse problems.
17:12 So, we get to Haman in the book of Esther,
17:14 and what does he have?
17:15 He occupies the highest position
17:18 in the land outside the royal family itself.
17:22 He stands right next to the throne,
17:23 in other words. He gets his house near it.
17:26 Where was Lucifer's position before he fell?
17:29 Covering cherub next to the throne of God,
17:31 the most exalted position you could have
17:34 outside of the Godhead itself, outside of the royal family.
17:38 Haman, Haman has everything. Here's what I find interesting.
17:42 But Haman isn't happy with everything because Mordecai
17:45 will not acknowledge how great he is.
17:48 Esther 5, verse 9 tells us that Mordecai the Jew
17:53 would not bow down to Haman, no matter how great he is,
17:56 and he goes home and has a party with his friends.
17:58 "Man, I am something else.
18:00 Have you seen? And the king said this."
18:01 He's name-dropping, "And wow, I'm important."
18:04 But his wife pulls him aside and says,
18:05 "You seem really, really unhappy.
18:07 After everything you've achieved, you seem unhappy."
18:10 He says, "Well, I don't like my promotion,
18:11 not if Mordecai won't acknowledge it."
18:14 What's the lesson there?
18:15 There's no satisfaction in sin.
18:18 Pride is a bottomless pit, and the more you feed it,
18:22 the bigger that monster gets, and there's no end to it.
18:25 You will never find contentment in sin, ever.
18:30 You will always be looking for more.
18:32 In Christ, we have absolute contentment.
18:35 Paul said, "I've learned to be content
18:37 in whatever condition I'm in."
18:38 Haman can't be happy, not in sin,
18:41 not when you're motivated by pride.
18:43 So what does he do? His wife says,
18:44 "You know what you ought to do?
18:46 Put up a gallows. Let's hang the guy."
18:48 And the gallows, I believe, are about 75 feet high.
18:50 We're going to do this right so the whole town
18:52 can see that you have to bow down to Haman
18:54 or you're going to dangle up at 75 feet.
18:57 However, in the story, Haman ends up being hoisted
19:02 by his own petard.
19:04 I think I got that. Hoisted by his own--
19:06 however the phrase goes.
19:07 Basically, the guy who plants a door bomb
19:09 and doesn't get out in time, and it kills him.
19:11 Haman ends up on the gallows himself.
19:14 What happens with Satan?
19:15 He offers Jesus the world, "There's a shortcut here, Lord."
19:19 Well, he doesn't call Him Lord, "Jesus, there's a shortcut,
19:22 and all You have to do is bow down to me,
19:24 "acknowledge I'm the king of this world,
19:25 and I'll just hand it back to You,"
19:26 because all he ever really wanted was to be worshiped.
19:28 He wanted to be a little higher than he was.
19:32 He ends up dying in this world in the very end
19:36 and reaps the consequence
19:38 that he's trying to heap on Jesus.
19:41 Haman, when he's dead, his signet ring
19:45 goes to Mordecai, a symbol of authority.
19:48 Mordecai gets his house, which is remarkable.
19:53 Satan says, "This world's mine. It all belongs to me."
19:57 And in the end, Jesus moves in,
19:58 "No, no, it's my house."
20:01 The parallels are really pretty remarkable,
20:03 really pretty remarkable.
20:04 >>Eric: There's some additional parallels that you draw
20:06 our attention to between Esther 3 and Revelation 12.
20:10 >>Shawn: Yeah.
20:11 >>Eric: Walk us through these parallels here.
20:13 >>Shawn: In the time we have, yeah, let's do it.
20:15 This is from Esther, chapter 3, and I think we're about verse 8.
20:19 Listen to this: "Then Haman said to King Ahasuerus,
20:22 "'There is a certain people scattered abroad
20:24 "'and dispersed among the peoples
20:26 in all the provinces of your kingdom.'"
20:28 Where are God's people working in the last days,
20:30 every nation, kindred, tongue, and people?
20:31 They are scattered worldwide. We know that from Revelation 14.
20:37 Here's Haman's description of God's people
20:40 scattered around the provinces of the kingdom.
20:42 There's 127 provinces. The Jews are living everywhere.
20:46 "Their laws are different from those
20:49 of every other people."
20:52 Israel was different than the nations.
20:54 They had human-made laws. Israel had God's laws.
20:58 These people, Haman acknowledges,
21:01 "Their laws are different from...every other people,
21:02 "...they do not keep the king's laws,
21:03 so that it is not to the king's profit to tolerate them."
21:06 They're held out as potentially treasonous--
21:09 "These people aren't really with you, Ahasuerus.
21:11 They're not really with you."
21:13 And you find that happening to God's people all the time.
21:16 That happened in the Roman Empire--
21:18 "These people are a threat to the stability of the empire."
21:20 The very earliest Christian apologists
21:23 spent all their time not debating
21:24 the existence of God but trying to demonstrate
21:26 to the emperors, "We're decent citizens.
21:28 "What you're being told isn't true.
21:32 We live by a different set of laws."
21:33 Then when you get to Revelation 12,
21:35 you find the same issue in the last days,
21:37 not even just the last days--historically,
21:39 throughout Christianity.
21:40 We want to be careful, but not everything in Revelation
21:42 is just the last gasp of history.
21:45 It says, "Then the dragon"-- we know who that is, Satan;
21:48 it says so earlier in the chapter--
21:51 "Then the dragon became furious with the woman"--
21:53 God's people, the bride-- "and went off to make war
21:56 [with] the rest of her offspring"--
21:58 the remnant of her seed--
22:00 "on those who keep the commandments of God."
22:05 Why is the devil angry?
22:07 They live by God's laws, not by the systems
22:09 that the devil has built in this world,
22:11 not by the laws of the nations which are
22:13 self-serving, and power-grabbing and prideful.
22:17 No, these people live by a different set of laws,
22:20 and that's what infuriates the devil,
22:22 and that's what infuriated Haman.
22:24 >>Eric: Powerful parallels between the two.
22:26 Is there more here?
22:28 >>Shawn: Oh, oh yeah, yeah, yeah, there really is.
22:30 You'll notice in the story Haman can't get to Mordecai.
22:33 He ends up having to lead him around on a horse.
22:35 What does he do after that point?
22:37 Goes after everybody, goes after Mordecai's people.
22:40 In Revelation 12, we find the devil going after Jesus.
22:44 When the child is born, tries to devour Him,
22:46 doesn't succeed.
22:48 Jesus is caught back up into heaven.
22:50 In verse 17, what does he do instead?
22:52 "I can't get to Christ, I'm going after
22:53 "the thing He loves most.
22:55 I'm going after all of His people."
22:58 And then, of course, we have a death decree
23:00 that goes out for a precise time in,
23:03 set time: "It's free rein on God's people.
23:06 When we blow the whistle, go kill some Jews."
23:09 And in Revelation 13, ultimately when God's people
23:12 won't bow down to the system the devil has built,
23:16 really Revelation 13 is the apex
23:17 of all these worldly kingdoms.
23:19 It's the final manifestation of it, a death decree goes out,
23:22 "Okay, fine, I can't win you over,
23:24 I can't force you over, I'll kill you."
23:27 The parallels really runs deep.
23:29 >>Eric: Incredible parallels here.
23:31 You make a really important point on Thursday
23:33 that Bible prophecy is not really meant
23:35 to scare us or to discourage us but to give us hope.
23:39 How do we get past some of the scary bits
23:42 to get to the hope-filled stuff?
23:45 >>Shawn: Yeah, and you know what, I see a lot of people--
23:48 it's actually one of the emotional reasons
23:49 some people will try to cling to
23:52 the secret rapture theory-- "But I'm gonna be out of here
23:54 when all the bad stuff happens."
23:55 No, you're not. You're not gonna be out of here.
23:58 God's people were never removed. Noah went through the Flood.
24:01 Israel went through the Red Sea, the persecu--
24:04 God has never spared us from having to be there.
24:08 Here's the way Bible prophecy is structured.
24:10 God doesn't sugarcoat what's going on in this world.
24:12 He says, here is the blank re--
24:14 the bare reality of what you've done
24:16 to this place, and He holds up a mirror to us.
24:18 That's the hard parts, that's Haman,
24:21 that's Revelation 12 and 13. We did this.
24:25 We created this prime-- and remember, the biggest problem
24:28 described in Revelation is inside Christianity,
24:31 not outside, right?
24:33 We have an unfaithful wife who is the biggest problem
24:36 in the book of Revelation, the harlot of Revelation 17,
24:39 the beast power of Revelation, chapter 13.
24:43 And we're the big problem, and God holds up a mirror,
24:46 but He always holds up a mirror
24:51 and then says, "But here's my solution for it."
24:54 You got to live in the solution.
24:55 The problems we made-- none of us are strangers
24:58 to the fact that this life is hard,
25:01 that there's pain, that there's disappointment,
25:04 and you're going to die.
25:06 So I always put that in the ledger as, okay,
25:08 that's the way it is, it's going to be hard.
25:10 Jesus didn't get spared from all of that.
25:12 He was lonely, He was hungry, He suffered pain,
25:15 He died in, you know, the most humiliating death
25:18 we could arrange for Him.
25:20 So that's a given. In this world, that's the way it is.
25:22 What I have--everybody's there, whether you're a believer
25:25 or not, everybody's in that column.
25:27 It gets a little more intense against believers
25:29 in the end because the devil's angry.
25:31 But what the unbelieving world doesn't have
25:33 is the hope I have in Christ, that last part of the story.
25:37 I mean, it doesn't end with "and the world fell apart."
25:40 It ends with God saying, "I'll wipe away every tear,
25:42 all sorrow, all pain."
25:44 Jesus, you know, "Why do you have fear in your heart?"
25:47 He says that over and over: "Why are you afraid?"
25:49 Well, Lord, we're afraid of what's coming.
25:52 I find it remarkable that everybody, you know,
25:54 all the disciples, except one, died a martyrs death,
25:58 and we don't have their stories in the Bible,
26:00 but we have some records that are fairly accurate.
26:04 And what's remarkable to me is Peter.
26:06 Peter's going to be crucified in the city of Rome,
26:08 outside, actually, where the garbage dump was,
26:11 and when he sees they're going to crucify him,
26:12 history tells us the Christians who were there say,
26:15 "Oh no, that's too good for me.
26:16 That's how Jesus died. I'm not worth that."
26:17 So they said, "Fine, we'll arrange upside down,"
26:19 so he goes out that way.
26:22 I look at all those martyr stories,
26:26 and I ask myself, "Could I do that?"
26:27 And then I remember, Charles Spurgeon was asked that once,
26:29 "Could you be," you know, "put to death for your faith?"
26:31 He goes, "No, absolutely not."
26:34 I mean, really, who wants to be tortured?
26:36 He said, "But when the moment comes, it'll be fine.
26:37 God will handle it."
26:39 And that's the story we see.
26:40 We see martyrs in the 1300s, 1400s singing in the flames.
26:44 It's like, you know what, this will pass in a moment.
26:46 I'll be back, I'll be back.
26:48 And so, yeah, you're going to die somehow.
26:50 I'd rather die for Jesus than hopeless.
26:53 Yeah, it just doesn't bother me that much.
26:55 >>Eric: So, so a great deal of this is perspective.
26:58 >>Shawn: Oh yeah. >>Eric: And being able to see
27:00 what's beyond the current,
27:02 maybe difficult, challenging, trying existence
27:05 that we find ourselves in and looking beyond that
27:08 to what God has in store for us.
27:11 And the truth is God has incredible things
27:13 in store for you.
27:15 He wants you to be ready.
27:16 You can be ready.
27:18 In fact, this is something that you can
27:19 and should be looking forward to.
27:22 And it's as we study these stories in the Old Testament
27:25 and understand them in light of what we find
27:28 over in the book of Revelation
27:29 in the New Testament, the fulfillment of these prophecies,
27:31 that we can have hope.
27:33 In fact, let's make that a little bit more personal:
27:36 You can have hope.
27:38 We're going to continue studying,
27:39 looking at these stories so that we can find
27:42 more and more hope as we understand
27:44 the prophecies of the Bible.
27:46 We'll be back again next time here on "Sabbath School,"
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