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>> Welcome to It Is Written
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Canada.
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Thank you for joining us.
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Are you tired of dieting?
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Tired of the yo-yo
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merry-go-round?
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You know, the very common
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cycle of gaining weight
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unintentionally and going
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on a diet in response
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to intentionally lose weight.
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And once that target weight is
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reached, you fall off the wagon
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and gain all the weight back
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again, plus a bit more.
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>> Then you go back on a weight
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loss diet and the cycle repeats.
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As you can imagine, this cycle
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is so discouraging.
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After travelling around the
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world to discover the secrets of
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releasing weight forever,
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Dr. Nadine Plummer has put her
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findings all in one book where
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she explains in detail how to
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lose the weight
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forever
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and enjoy the process.
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Dr. Plummer's clinical focus is
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weight loss and her book is
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entitled Authentic You: A Step
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by Step Journey to the Habits
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Beyond Dieting.
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>> Dr. Nadine Plummer is a
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licensed naturopathic doctor
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who graduated from the Canadian
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College of Naturopathic
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Medicine.
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She is a member of the Ontario
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Association of Naturopathic
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Doctors and the Canadian
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Association of Naturopathic
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Doctors as well.
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She also practices and is
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licensed as a naturopathic
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physician in British Columbia.
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Dr. Plummer additionally holds a
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master's degree in religion from
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Andrews University's Theological
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Seminary.
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>> Dr. Nadine Plummer, thank you
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for joining us on It Is Written
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Canada today.
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>> Thank you for having me.
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>> So, Nadine, I want to start
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with your own journey.
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So you talk about your book,
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Authentic You, and you follow
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your own journey on weight loss.
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You wanna tell us a little bit
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about the before and after.
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A lot of people wanna know about
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that, what you experienced and
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you, of course, found that you
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could lose weight forever.
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[NADINE] Yes.
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How much time do we have?
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[MIKE] Yeah. [laughs]
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[NADINE] Just kidding.
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So I actually grew up as, I
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guess you would say, a normal
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size child, not overweight.
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And then when I went to
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university, I started gaining
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weight and I started eating at
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night and ordering pizza.
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And I have this joke saying that
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I was keeping the local Pizza
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Hut in business.
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And I was surprised to find that
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I gained weight quickly and I
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didn't know what to do about it.
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So I probably was
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at some point
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about, at some point, probably
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around 60 pounds heavier than I
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am right now.
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[MIKE] Wow.
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>> Yeah.
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And it just seemed like I was
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gaining and gaining and gaining.
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And I hadn't realized that I had
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changed most of my eating
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habits, and I'd stopped
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exercising because I grew up
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doing a lot of sports
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and then I suddenly wasn't.
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So I was at this point of trying
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to lose the weight.
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And trying to lose weight,
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as you mentioned, the
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merry-go-round, led me to all
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kinds of diets, starvation
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diets, the drinking soup only
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diet, the lemon juice diet.
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Like, I didn't know what to do.
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So I then started yo-yoing
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and it was
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an unpleasant cycle, let's say.
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I also didn't realize that
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weight and having extra weight
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can affect your mood.
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I didn't know anything about
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endocrine disruptors, etc.
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So I really didn't feel
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comfortable in my body anymore.
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I would get dressed and just
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focus on wearing things that
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covered my body.
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Sometimes I didn't even wanna go
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out because I didn't wanna get
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dressed because I didn't like
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the way that my body looked.
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So that was the before.
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Fortunately, there was an after.
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I had met someone who had been
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overweight at one point and then
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I didn't see him for quite a
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while and when I saw him again,
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he had lost weight.
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And I think I just accepted this
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idea that this is going to be me
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forever.
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I didn't feel as athletic as I
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was, my energy was low.
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And when I met this person and I
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saw that if he could do it
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and he looked so different and
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seemed quite a bit healthier,
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then maybe I could do it, too.
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And he gave me a few tips,
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which I mention in my book,
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just two main things.
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I thought, okay, he did these
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things and lost weight.
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So I started doing those things
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and it wasn't about a crash diet
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at all.
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It was about lifestyle changes.
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So I started making a few basic
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lifestyle changes.
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Which are,
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I stopped eating at night.
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So I stopped ordering pizza at
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night, I cut out processed foods
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so I wasn't eating chocolate
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bars, Harvey's, McDonald's
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anymore.
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I didn't even realize what that
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was doing to my body.
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And I started eating a
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protein-filled breakfast.
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Not necessarily animal protein,
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but breakfast.
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So just those two things
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just started-- I started losing
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weight.
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And after that I started making
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other lifestyle changes after
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that, but it just started with
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those two things.
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And I lost weight quite rapidly.
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>> You had mentioned that not
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necessarily animal protein.
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Usually when people think of
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protein, that's all they think
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of is animal protein.
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So there is plant-based protein.
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>> Yes, definitely.
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I'm now 100% vegan.
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At that time, I mentioned
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McDonald's and Harvey's, so you
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can imagine I was not vegan at
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the time, but I thought, okay,
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what are my options?
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Maybe I can eat eggs or
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something like that.
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But now I know that there are
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plant-based proteins and natural
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proteins and actually we get a
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lot of protein from plants.
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So now I don't need animal
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products anymore.
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>> So why now?
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Why are people thinking or why
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are we even talking about
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it now?
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Is this a time when people are
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starting to gain weight, they
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really wanna lose weight?
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>> I think now is the time to
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start talking more about not
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just weight loss, but about
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our health.
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I think during the pandemic
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things were thrown off
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a little bit.
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A lot of people kind of got out
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of their normal routine.
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Maybe they were going to the gym
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a lot, but then now they can't,
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they have to be home with their
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kids, just all sorts of things.
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There was a lot of loneliness
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as well and people
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gained weight.
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I think a lot of the patients I
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see now when I say, "Okay, what
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weight were you in 2019?
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Okay, what were you in
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summer 2020?"
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They gained a lot of weight
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during the pandemic, and now
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that hopefully we're completely
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on the other side of that, it's
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a great time to talk about
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losing that weight and getting--
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becoming healthy again.
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So I think now is a really good
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time to address it.
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>> Absolutely.
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>> So, Dr. Nadine, what causes
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obesity and does it really
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matter?
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>> I think it definitely
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matters.
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Many different causes.
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I mean, people might be eating
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because they're eating out of
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stress or eating out of
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emotions.
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But there are just so many
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different factors involved.
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It might be obesogens, which we
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might talk about, it could be
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hormone dysregulation, it could
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be the types of foods that
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people are eating.
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So all of these factors
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play a role.
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It's not just one
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particular thing.
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I would say it definitely
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matters because now we know that
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having that extra
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weight on
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for years at a time can actually
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put us at risk for several
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diseases, including type 2
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diabetes or including
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cardiovascular disease,
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metabolic disease, high blood
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pressure, etc.
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So definitely matters.
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>> So is there an emotional
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component to obesity?
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It's like not what you're
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eating, but it's what's eating
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you, this emotional
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thing that's happening.
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[NADINE] Oh, that was cute.
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Yes.
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I would say there's definitely
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an emotional eating.
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Not a-- definitely an emotional
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aspect to it when people are
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emotional eating.
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I mean, that's not always the
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case, but sometimes.
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The cause, depending on each
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person, the cause could be
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a matter of emotional eating
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or stress eating.
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I mean, the amazing thing about
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food is it is a state changer.
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You know, so if you're feeling
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emotional and you're
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uncomfortable with that emotion,
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anger, disappointment, etc.,
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and then you eat, your state is
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changed temporarily.
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Or it could be some kind of
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trauma from the past and your
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way of dealing with that trauma
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is to stuff those
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emotions
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and food helps you stuff that
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down, but it keeps coming up.
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And then we eat to
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kind of numb ourselves
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from whatever that is.
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Not always the case, but I would
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say it's definitely...
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[MIKE] Yeah, I think of comfort
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eating.
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[NADINE] Comfort eating, yeah.
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And I know that at least even
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for me in the past, let's say if
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you went through a difficult
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breakup, even in TV shows, you
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see, like, someone goes through
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a breakup, they go to the
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freezer, it's Haagen-Dazs
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ice cream, you know?
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So yes, definitely there could
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be an emotional component.
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>> So it makes you feel good at
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the time that you are eating,
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you know, or you're bingeing,
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but then, like you said, it
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doesn't last long and then you
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feel, you know, there's also a
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cycle, right?
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Because you feel guilty now
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because you have eaten and you
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know you're not supposed to.
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And so then it's a guilt and a
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shame and regret.
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And so the cycle keeps on going
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on and on.
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[NADINE] Right.
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And that cycle, I mention it in
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my book, the cycle of emotional
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eating, that's exactly it.
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And I think there are a few
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chemicals involved in that cycle
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that people don't realize.
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You feel stress or, you know,
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some kind of emotion that you
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wanna stuff and then that kind
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of stress increases may
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increase a chemical called
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cortisol, which actually drives
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you to eat and then you eat.
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While you're eating, especially
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if it's really palatable foods,
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you're enjoying it, your brain
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secretes a hormone called
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dopamine.
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So it feels good at the time,
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just as you said, René, but then
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after that, especially when
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dopamine is coming down,
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then you feel regret,
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you feel shame,
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you feel, you know, low
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about yourself.
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And then if you stay in that
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state for too long, then you're
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back to feeling emotional.
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And then you eat and you keep
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going through that cycle, the
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cycle of emotional eating,
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definitely there's a cycle.
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And I experienced that myself
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personally many times.
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And with the bingeing,
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as you said as well.
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Yeah.
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>> So you mentioned obesogens.
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What are those?
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And how do they affect us?
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>> Obesogens are chemical
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disruptors that could be found
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in BPA.
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Like, BPA is a factor that is
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found, like a chemical that's
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found in hard plastics like
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water bottles, it's found on
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receipts as well.
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So they disrupt lipid
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homeostasis, meaning the way
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that our body breaks down fat
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and also the way that our body
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stores fat,
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kind of like
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a hormone disruptor.
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And that can also be a factor
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leading to obesity.
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>> So these are chemicals in our
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environment...
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[NADINE] Chemicals in our
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environment that we might not
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even be aware of, you know?
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Yeah.
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>> Are there other factors apart
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from these chemicals that can
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cause obesity?
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>> There are many other factors
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involved, and there are a few
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things that I don't think that
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we even realize or think about.
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But one of those factors are
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there could be psychological
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factors, which is something
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hopefully we'll talk about
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after, but it's just
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availability and it's also
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the foods themselves.
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So I have a chapter in my book
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called "It Is Not the Food," and
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then later I have a chapter in
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my book called "It Is the Food."
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So "It Is Not the Food" might
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just be the way that we're
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experiencing life, stressors,
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etc., our reaction to food.
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A lot of people say, "I'm a
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foodie, I love food," like the
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way we identify with food.
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"It Is the Food" has to do with
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what is in the food.
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There's such an availability of
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highly palatable processed foods
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and it's so convenient.
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And these foods have chemicals
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in them that drive us to
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continue to eat the food
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and our body processes that food
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differently.
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But also it's so convenient now.
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Like if you had had that breakup
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and you wanted that ice cream,
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at one point, you'd have to get
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in your car and drive there.
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But now you can get on your
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phone and within moments it's
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delivered to your door.
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So it's highly palatable foods,
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very chemically processed
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and overly convenient.
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>> So, Dr. Nadine, does obesity
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affect the brain?
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>> Well, according to Dr. Daniel
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Amen, he is a psychiatrist,
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a physician and also a brain
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disorder specialist, obesity
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does affect the brain.
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He's done studies on
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obese people.
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I think there's from three
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separate studies they had done
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on 35,000 people.
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And for a study to be credible,
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the more people involved, the
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more credible the study is.
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And what he found was
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with obesity, the larger someone
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was or the more fat that they
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had on their body, the smaller
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the brain became.
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So size, body size went up,
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brain size and brain function
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went down.
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And when he said, when he found
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that, he said that is what
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motivated him to actually
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lose 25 pounds.
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>> So does it affect other parts
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of the body as well?
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>> It does.
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It's interesting because at one
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point obesity fat, or adipose
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tissue, was thought to be inert,
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meaning it just sits there on
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the body, which is what I
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thought when I was overweight.
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It's just sitting there, so it's
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not going to affect my health.
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But now they know that adipose
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tissue, or fat, actually is
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active.
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It's now being called an
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endocrine organ.
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Twenty-four/seven adipose tissue
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is giving off adipokines.
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These are like chemical
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messengers, cytokines, like TNF
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alpha, which you may or may not
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have heard of, but it's
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pro-inflammatory.
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So basically extra adipose
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tissue can raise inflammation
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levels in the body.
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When inflammation levels
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continue to be high, it puts us
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at risk for cardiovascular
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disease, type 2 diabetes,
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hypertension, even dementia.
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So with ongoing
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extra adipose tissue,
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this might be 20 years,
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10 years, 20 years, 25 years,
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then you're at risk for these
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diseases because of the
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inflammation levels.
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So yes, definitely affects other
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parts of the body.
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>> And what about sleep,
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Dr. Nadine?
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>> I think that there are two
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main elements that people don't
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pay as much attention to when
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they're thinking of weight loss
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or weight gain.
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Most people think, okay, food is
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a factor, exercise is a factor,
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but they don't think of sleep
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and they're not thinking of
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psychological stress.
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And those two things, sleep and
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psychological stress, can make
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it very difficult to lose weight
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and can actually cause people to
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gain weight.
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With sleep, when we're not
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getting good sleep, then the
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next day our cortisol levels are
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high, I mentioned cortisol, that
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drives us to eat.
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It actually is a little bit of a
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disregulator to the hormones
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that help control our eating.
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Those two are ghrelin
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and leptin.
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So ghrelin is like our hunger
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hormone, leptin is like our
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fullness hormone.
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When we're not getting high
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quality sleep, it's as though
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the next day those switch.
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What does that mean?
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It means more ghrelin.
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So ghrelin's higher,
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leptin's lower.
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How does that translate into
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our behaviour?
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We are being driven
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to eat more
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and we don't feel satisfied.
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I remember experiencing this.
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Just a few years ago, I was
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staying up for some reason,
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studying something, even as a
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naturopathic doctor.
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And the next day it was like I
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was so hungry and it-- just
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nothing was satisfying me.
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Fortunately, I thought, okay, my
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leptin levels are high, my
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ghrelin levels are low,
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I'm getting good sleep tomorrow
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and that'll fix it.
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But people experience this and
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they don't even realize that.
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There was a study done where
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they were doing brain scans on
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sleep-deprived...
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...study participants.
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And during the brain scan they
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were showing them pictures of
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healthy foods and pictures of
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these highly processed foods.
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And they were asking them to
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rate their desire
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for these foods.
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And they also told them, "After
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this, you will have to eat those
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foods," just so people wouldn't
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think, "Okay, I'm gonna rate the
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salads high so people think that
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I'm healthy."
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And what they found was that
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people were rating the highly
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palatable, highly processed,
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fatty foods, very high, and the
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healthy foods very low.
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And they also found, like, the
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area in the brain that's in
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charge of impulse control
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was really lighting up
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and the area in the brain that
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is in charge of
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our rational thinking,
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deductive reasoning
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was down.
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So in this, what this means is
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when you don't get a lot of
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sleep, it's like you can't
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really control yourself as much.
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You're jonesing for that food
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and the decision making process
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is lower instead, lower, and
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you'll end up eating more.
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All of that to say sleep is a
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major factor that I think people
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don't realize.
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>> So you use that word,
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"jonesing," usually talking
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about an addiction.
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[NADINE] Yes.
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[MIKE] Why did you use that
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word there?
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>> I use that word, I mean, it
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sounds kind of cute, but I
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particularly use that word
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because jonesing is a word
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that's kind of used in slang,
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but it refers to having a bit of
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a withdrawal craving
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that you cannot
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satisfy it.
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And sometimes people use that
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term when they're referring to
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using or consuming cannabis or
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smoking marijuana, they'll say,
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"Oh, I'm really jonesing for
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some ice cream," or
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whatever it is.
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I'm using the word lightly
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right now.
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But it's interesting because
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when people are using cannabis
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afterwards, their appetite is
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kind of out of control.
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They'll get something called,
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like, they might say, you know,
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"I have just finished smoking.
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I have to eat right now."
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And what they eat are normally
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not, like, leafy green salads.
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And what they've found is
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that affect, the post-cannabis
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eating, is also an effect that
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happens when we don't get a lot
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of sleep because we have
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receptors in our body that are
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similar to cannabis.
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They're called endocannabinoids.
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And when we're not getting a lot
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of sleep, those endocannabinoids
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are increased.
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So we get that jonesing for this
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junky food type of feeling when
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we're not getting a lot of sleep
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because of that elevation of
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endocannabinoids.
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>> So this
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addiction or fighting
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these cravings, is there a
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spiritual side that you've found
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that could help out?
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>> I would say there are many
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biblical passages that help us
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as well.
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But sometimes when we have that
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feeling like, "I am so tempted,
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this is beyond me."
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Maybe you didn't get a lot of
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sleep or maybe there's an
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emotional trigger or whatever it
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is, but it's something that is
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driving you to do what you don't
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wanna do.
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You know, you don't wanna eat
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that food, but you end up
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doing it.
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As Paul says, "The things I
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don't wanna do are the things
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that I do," then we can turn to
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Scripture at that time.
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And there's a wonderful Bible
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verse that says there is no
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temptation that is unknown
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to man.
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And it basically says that when
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you're in that position of
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temptation, that God will
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create a way out
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for you.
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And so I would say, leaning on
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that scripture.
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Yes, I'm in temptation right
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now, but it's not a temptation
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that other people have not
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experienced.
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And God tells me that I will not
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be tempted beyond what is...
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...available for me or what is
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within my power, that He'll help
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me and He'll make a way out.
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So that's when you wanna pray.
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So that temptation is so strong,
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you might be "jonesing" for
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something.
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You might get the munchies, as
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they say.
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That's the time you pray,
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"Lord, I'm in extreme temptation
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right now, I know Your Bible
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verse says that there's no
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temptation that is beyond me
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when You're with me, I'm praying
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now that You will help me and
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show me a way out."
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And God just might say to you,
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you know, "Leave the scene,"
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you know, "Get out of that
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situation.
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Get away from that food or
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leave the restaurant right now,"
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whatever it is, I truly believe
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He'll give you the answer.
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[MIKE] Awesome.
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That's very practical.
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>> Yeah.
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There's also a Bible verse that
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says that with the Lord, all
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things are possible.
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So this is more long term.
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Lord, you know, I've been
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struggling with weight for years
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as I did years and years of,
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you know, trying to find that
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answer.
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And maybe God placed that person
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there for me so I could see it's
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possible, you know?
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And this Bible verse says that
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with the Lord, all things are
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possible.
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And I think sometimes when it
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comes to weight loss, you might
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think it was possible for that
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person because I think we've all
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maybe at some point know people
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who've lost weight, but it's not
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possible for me,
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my personal journey.
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It's not possible.
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But the Bible says that with
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God, all things are possible.
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So praying to Him and saying,
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"Lord, please make this possible
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for me."
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And He'll show you the
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strategies or the steps that
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help you as well.
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>> Dr. Nadine, can you give us
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some practical tips for losing
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weight?
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>> It's interesting because one
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of the things that people often
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think will help them with weight
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loss is exercise.
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So I am giving the tip of
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exercise, but studies have found
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that exercise is not the main
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component on weight loss.
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Food is.
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Exercise helps keep people
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motivated, it helps keep them on
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track, it elevates mood so
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people are more likely to stick
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to what they're doing, but it's
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more about mood and maintenance.
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In studies they've found with
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two groups that have lost
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weight, the group that exercises
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keeps the weight off and the
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group that doesn't exercise
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tends to gain the weight again.
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So I would say exercise for
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mood, exercise for motivation,
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exercise for maintenance.
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Of course, getting high quality
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sleep is important as well,
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as I'd mentioned.
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And then I would say the other
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factor that people aren't taking
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into consideration, those are
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very practical factors, but it's
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just your mindset,
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your approach.
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So if you approach it like this
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is a diet, that's why I call
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this "the journey," because
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weight loss is definitely a
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journey, it's not a vacation,
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it's more of a marathon,
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it's not a sprint.
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So my mindset is I'm committing
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to a lifestyle change,
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not to a diet.
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So that tip would be see it as
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lifestyle changes.
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When we see it as a diet, we
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tend to go through the diet,
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as you mentioned in the intro,
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break the diet, fall off the
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wagon, binge, etc. and then
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we're in that emotional
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eating cycle.
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So just the mindset I'm
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committing to making changes
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in my life and having a
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different mindset towards my
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relationship with food.
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I would say part of losing
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weight forever is really it's a
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change in identity.
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Once you attach your identity
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onto something, it's difficult
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to break it.
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But when you're open to changing
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your identity, open to change,
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it's possible to lose weight
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forever.
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And that Bible verse in
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2 Corinthians chapter 5,
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verse 17, tells us that when we
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are in Christ, we can become a
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new creature.
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All of the old things are passed
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away and we have become new.
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So when we become new, when we
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have that different mindset,
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when we ask God to help us and
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show us, He will help us on this
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lifestyle journey where
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we lose the weight.
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And it's like the Bible passage
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says, we become a new creature.
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[MIKE] Awesome.
00:25:45.91\00:25:46.81
So as we close off, I wonder if
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you could pray for us,
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Dr. Nadine Plummer, for our
00:25:49.94\00:25:52.71
viewers, because there might be
00:25:52.71\00:25:54.32
someone listening who's saying,
00:25:54.32\00:25:55.52
"Hey, I'm really struggling
00:25:55.52\00:25:56.62
with this."
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Pray for them right now.
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Could you do that?
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[NADINE] Definitely. Absolutely.
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Lord Jesus, we're so thankful
00:26:02.52\00:26:03.76
that we can come to You with
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anything.
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Lord, I pray that if there are
00:26:05.89\00:26:07.60
people listening, Lord, who are
00:26:07.60\00:26:09.56
anxious about losing weight, who
00:26:09.56\00:26:11.67
have been struggling, Your Word
00:26:11.67\00:26:13.64
says that we should be, we can
00:26:13.64\00:26:16.04
be anxious for nothing.
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But in all things, with
00:26:17.87\00:26:19.51
thanksgiving and supplication,
00:26:19.51\00:26:20.88
we make our request be made
00:26:20.88\00:26:22.24
known to You, and You will give
00:26:22.24\00:26:23.81
us peace.
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So, Lord, I first
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pray for peace
00:26:26.95\00:26:28.88
for all viewers and that You'll
00:26:28.88\00:26:30.35
help them to have peaceful
00:26:30.35\00:26:31.99
sleeps at night.
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And also, Lord, for the people
00:26:33.62\00:26:35.26
who are struggling with weight
00:26:35.26\00:26:36.89
and maybe have been for years,
00:26:36.89\00:26:39.03
I pray that You'll make this
00:26:39.03\00:26:40.36
journey of habit change
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possible for them
00:26:42.93\00:26:43.97
and that they can become
00:26:43.97\00:26:45.00
new in You.
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And I say these things through
00:26:46.57\00:26:48.50
Jesus Christ, our Lord and
00:26:48.50\00:26:49.80
Saviour.
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Amen.
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[MIKE] Amen.
00:26:51.21\00:26:52.21
>> Dr. Nadine, thank you so much
00:26:53.44\00:26:54.91
for joining us on It Is Written
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Canada.
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>> You're welcome.
00:26:57.88\00:26:58.58
Thank you for having me.
00:26:58.58\00:26:59.95
>> Friends, personally, whenever
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life gets really tough and
00:27:04.52\00:27:06.76
doesn't make sense or I'm
00:27:06.76\00:27:08.42
feeling down and discouraged or
00:27:08.42\00:27:09.79
even overwhelmed with an ongoing
00:27:09.79\00:27:12.79
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00:27:12.79\00:27:14.20
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>> Friends, if you would like
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the kind of holistic healing
00:28:22.93\00:28:24.40
that Dr. Nadine Plummer
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experienced in her own life
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and in helping her patients
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realize it in theirs, then we
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recommend that you open the
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Bible where it is recorded, that
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Jesus found His assurance to
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defeat the Devil through the
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Word of His Father when He
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declared...
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