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>> Hello and welcome to It Is
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Written Canada.
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Thank you for joining us.
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Are you healthy?
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According to Statistics Canada,
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60% of Canadians rate their
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general health as very good
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or excellent.
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Yet Health Canada identifies
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Canada's persistently high
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prevalence of preventable
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chronic risk factors.
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Things such as smoking, vaping,
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physical inactivity, unhealthy
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eating, and the use of alcohol,
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and even the misuse of
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pharmaceutical medications.
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>> Despite the fact that most
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Canadians rate themselves as
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being very healthy, major
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chronic diseases are on the rise
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in Canada.
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Cardiovascular diseases, cancer,
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chronic respiratory diseases,
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and diabetes are the cause of
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65% of all deaths
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in Canada each year
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and are the leading causes
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of death globally.
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In addition, depression and
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anxiety disorders are
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respectively the second and
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eighth leading causes of years
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of life loss due to disability
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globally.
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>> Physical inactivity,
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sedentary behaviours, and
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obesity rates remain high,
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especially among children
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and youth.
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In fact, more than 90% of
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Canadian children are not
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meeting current physical
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activity guidelines in Canada,
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and Canada ranks amongst
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the worst
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for adult obesity rates, among
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the most economically developed
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countries in the world.
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>> With us on It Is Written
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Canada to help us answer this
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question is Dr. George Cho.
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Dr. Cho is a licensed
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naturopathic doctor who is the
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lead clinician at the nonprofit
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Paradise Health Clinic in
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Newmarket, Ontario.
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Dr. George Cho focuses on
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treating chronic health
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conditions, using lifestyle
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medicine, fitness assessments,
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and athletic performance.
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He has experience with fitness
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testing at the NHL, with the
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Toronto Professional Football
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Club and firefighters and
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police officers.
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Dr. Cho is a member of the
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American College of Lifestyle
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Medicine and the Canadian
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Society for Exercise Physiology.
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His practice focus is on
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lifestyle medicine.
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>> Dr. George Cho, welcome to
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It Is Written Canada.
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>> Thank you for having me.
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It's good to be here.
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>> So we're talking about are
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you healthy?
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It seems like a question that a
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person can answer themselves
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pretty easily,
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and yet perhaps
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it's not that easy to answer.
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>> I think people assume that
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because they don't have any
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symptoms, that they're healthy.
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But now we know that chronic
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diseases, they take years and
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sometimes even decades, like
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with cancer and Alzheimer's
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disease, to fully mature
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before symptoms even manifest
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themselves.
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So basically you have this
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latent period where you have
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this disease process happening,
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but it's at a level where
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symptoms don't manifest, right,
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but then it hits.
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But oftentimes, like in
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Alzheimer's and cancer,
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it's often too late, right?
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Like, you pick it up late
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in the game.
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So even heart disease takes
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years and years to manifest
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without any symptoms showing up.
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So we cannot-- so people might
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assume that they're healthy,
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but internally it might not be
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the case, yeah.
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>> So some of this for some
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people could have started, like,
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when they were quite young
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and they didn't even realize it
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and they were practising,
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you know, health practices that
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were really detrimental to their
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health and they thought, "Oh, I
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don't feel it," and so...
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>> Correct.
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Like, studies have shown that
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teenagers, many teenagers
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are already developing, most
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already have fatty streaks in
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their arteries.
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So they got, like, fat build up
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in their arteries.
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And many of them actually
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already have plaque
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in their arteries.
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But it's just not at a level
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where it's gonna manifest as
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like, a heart attack, right,
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or even chest pain,
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but it's forming, right, so...
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And that is because of
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unhealthy lifestyle behaviours,
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right, so...
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Like, are you healthy?
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Well, you don't have symptoms,
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but it doesn't mean that you're
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healthy, right?
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Yeah.
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>> Dr. George, what is happening
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inside the body
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that is silently
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causing these diseases?
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>> So now we know that
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the process of inflammation is
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really what's driving so many of
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our chronic diseases.
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So it's called chronic
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inflammation or sometimes they
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say it's subacute inflammation
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or they say it's subclinical
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inflammation.
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But basically what it means is
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that it's chronic, so it's
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happening over many years,
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for a long time.
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It's subclinical.
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What that means is basically
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there's no real lab test
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that's gonna be able to really
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pick it up.
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Now there are lab tests for
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inflammation that hospitals
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and-- could utilize, but it
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doesn't really pick up, like,
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this low grade inflammation
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that's happening in the body.
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But what we do know now is that
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there's this low level of
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inflammation that's happening
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over years, breaking down
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basically the body's systems,
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which then eventually manifest
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as a full blown disease.
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It's like having, like, a small
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fire somewhere in the house and
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maybe you, you know, for some
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reason you don't pick it up or
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something and just slowly starts
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to degrade things.
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And then it manifests, you know,
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so...
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People right now, basically
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what they're thinking is, "Okay,
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I don't have this big fire."
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But it's not the big fire that's
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really causing more severe
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chronic health issues, it's this
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low fire, it's this low level
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inflammation that's happening
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in the body.
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And again, there's no real,
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at least right now, there's no
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real blood test
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or marker,
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at least available to the
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public, that we can use to
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basically say, "Oh, you have
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this and we we detected
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subclinical inflammation."
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Like, there's no real thing for
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that right now.
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>> So there's no real test
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for it.
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But tell us about inflammation.
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Why is inflammation
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or the marker of an inflammation
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in your body, why is that
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important?
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>> Inflammation is basically
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your immune systems being
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activated, right?
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So in one sense, inflammation is
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actually important for you.
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Like if you, like, for your body
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to heal, you actually need
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inflammation.
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It just means your body,
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your immune system is being
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activated.
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But the thing is that
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when your body, when your immune
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system deals with a problem,
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it should kind of like
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kind of level off, right?
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But that's not what's happening,
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you see?
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So you got this, basically, this
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constant activation of the
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immune system that is, like,
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disregulated.
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That's the problem.
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It's like, and it causes
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collateral damage.
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It's kind of like if you have,
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like, if there's a robbery,
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then the cops come and they deal
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with it, then they should kind
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of go back.
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But if the cops are constantly
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just keep on shooting things,
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like, that's not good, right?
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So it's gonna cause collateral
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damage and then eventually
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society starts to crumble,
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right?
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So in the same way, like, your
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immune system, it doesn't-- we
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don't want it to shut off,
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obviously, but it should kind
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of, like, tone down.
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But that's not what's happening.
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But it's at a very low level,
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so we don't really detect it.
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So that's the problem.
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>> So the alarm is on,
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it's constant, and it just
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keeps going...
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[DR. CHO] It keeps on going.
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>> ...and it doesn't stop.
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So if you can't measure that and
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you can't actually, you know,
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see that there's inflammation in
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certain areas, then what
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can be done?
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>> So that's the thing.
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So...
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...unless-- until
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the scientific research picks up
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on reliable markers for
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subclinical inflammation,
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we have to rely on the things
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that drive inflammation.
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And now the scientific evidence
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is extremely clear that it's
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really our lifestyle habits
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that really push
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chronic inflammation.
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So right now what people have to
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do is you have to focus on...
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...living as healthy a lifestyle
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as you can.
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And so by-- that'll help address
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the root cause of inflammation.
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[MIKE] Mm-hmm, mm-hmm.
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[RENÉ] Dr. George, can you give
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us some lifestyle changes that
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people can implement to reduce
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the chronic inflammation?
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>> Yeah, so there's many.
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So number one would be, like,
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social connections.
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So scientific evidence now has
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shown that loneliness
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is-- can put you in an
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inflammatory state, right?
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So we want to encourage people
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to have strong social
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connections, right, with their
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family and friends.
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Not isolate yourselves,
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not being so much on social
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media, things like that.
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So social connections can help
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reduce inflammation, loneliness,
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isolation can actually help
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increase inflammation.
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So strong social connections are
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really important, especially for
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the younger generation who tends
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to be more
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engaged in isolated
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behaviours these days.
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So I think that's important.
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That's number one.
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Another one would be
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something like exercise.
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So exercise
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over time
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leads to...
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...immune modulation.
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So basically you actually put
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your-- it actually puts the
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body, anti-inflammatory state,
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right?
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So your immune system becomes
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more balanced with exercise.
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So exercise,
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like 150 minutes
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per week of moderate to vigorous
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cardio.
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So that's enough to cause some
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deeper breathing, a little bit
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of sweating.
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And then the Canadian guidelines
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recommends about two days
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per week of resistance training.
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So lifting weights, right?
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So something like that's gonna
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really help keep the immune
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system kind of in balance,
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in check.
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[MIKE] That's very interesting
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because some people would say,
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"You know, when I exercise,
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I can feel the inflammation,
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I can feel, you know, that
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there's this lactic acid
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buildup."
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And so you're saying that
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this is something that's normal,
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but if you continue to exercise,
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that eventually that will
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dissipate and actually
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level things off.
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>> Right, that's why I said that
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chronically over time.
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So the adaptation to your body.
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So, like, initially there might
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be some inflammation that's
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happening, but then the body
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repairs and it adapts.
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And over time it's gonna put
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your body actually an
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anti-inflammatory state.
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[MIKE] Right, so it seems like
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your body was designed to move.
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>> Correct. Exactly.
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So another thing would be
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dietary habits.
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So eating an anti-inflammatory
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type of diet, so minimizing
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processed food, especially
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refined sugars, right,
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sugar-sweetened beverages,
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these things are not good.
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Also eating a more plant-based,
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whole foods diet.
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So emphasizing whole grains,
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legumes, so these are beans,
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peas, lentils, things like that.
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Nuts and seeds, fruits,
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vegetables...
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Yeah, those types of things.
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So eating more whole foods,
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plant-based diet, not so much on
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the animal products or the,
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like, meat and dairy,
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these types of things.
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So you wanna eat a whole foods,
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plant-based diet in a minimally
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processed form as best you can,
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avoiding processed food.
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This also helps put your
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body in a more...
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...immune regulated state.
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Yeah.
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There's some other things that
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people might not really think
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about that actually science has
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shown to be beneficial, things
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like even just being in nature.
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So they studied, they found that
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forest bathing, for example.
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So that's basically you're just
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in the forest, in the woods.
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That can actually put your--
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can have an anti-inflammatory
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effect on the body.
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I believe that we've been
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designed for--
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to be in contact with nature.
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And the more closely we get to
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that, I think, the better it is
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for our immune system.
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[MIKE] So when you say "forest
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bathing," you're not saying you
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should get into a river?
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[DR. CHO] No, no, no.
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>> So you should just be bathing
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in the sense that you're in the
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environment of nature
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where you get all that oxygen...
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>> So just spend time in, like,
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a conservation area with
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a lot of trees.
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People have to realize, like,
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trees, they give off what we
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call phytochemicals or plant
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chemicals.
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So trees are releasing
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these things.
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And basically when you breathe
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them in, it actually has a very
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positive effect on your body for
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the most part.
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So when we're in the middle of a
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forest, you're breathing in all
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these nice chemicals that the
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plants are giving off and it
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actually has a very good effect
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on the body.
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So being in nature is really
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important.
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[MIKE] That's fascinating.
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[RENÉ] That's interesting.
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I was thinking more about being
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out in nature, you're getting
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sunlight and fresh air.
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But now you mentioned about the
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gift that we get from plants
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with the phytochemicals.
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That's amazing.
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[DR. CHO] Also, yeah, I think
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sunlight is important as well.
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The vitamin D
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that the body produces from the
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effects of sunlight.
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Vitamin D is an immuno
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modulator, so it modulates the
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immune system.
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So especially here in Canada,
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where, you know, it's-- we don't
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get as much sun.
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And so yeah, getting out,
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getting sunlight is really
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important as well.
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Yeah, yeah.
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And of course, you know,
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avoiding alcohol.
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Alcohol causes direct...
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...damage to the gut lining.
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So your, in your intestines, you
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have basically like a wall.
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And when the wall, it becomes
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leaky, we call it leaky gut,
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then stuff gets through the wall
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into the body and then your
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immune system picks it up.
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It's like an enemy that's coming
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in and basically then the immune
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system gets activated and
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starts, basically there's a
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battle going on.
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So you want the wall, your gut
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line to be very tight
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so nothing gets through.
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If it gets leaky, then stuff
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gets through then you've got a
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problem, like I said.
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Well, alcohol actually causes
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leaky gut, right?
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So we know that alcohol causes
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other problems in the body, but
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when it comes to inflammation,
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because it can-- it's toxic to
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the gut lining, it can cause
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leaky gut, which then triggers a
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set of...
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...this pathway of events that
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causes your immune system to be
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constantly activated, which is
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basically chronic inflammation.
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So like avoiding alcohol would
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be another thing.
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And of course, you know,
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cigarette smoke, cigarettes,
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things like that, you wanna
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avoid those things.
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But the point is that these
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healthy lifestyle behaviours is
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really our best chance at
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keeping the inflammation in our
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body in check.
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And that's really our only
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guarantee, to be honest, that we
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are living healthy.
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Yeah.
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>> Dr. George, what about sleep?
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>> Yeah the studies show that
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even one night of sleep
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deprivation can be
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immunosuppressive.
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So, like, less than, like, 6
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hours of sleep or so can
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suppress the immune system.
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There's no set amount of sleep
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that you need, but they say
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about 7 to 9 hours.
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So I say that when you wake up,
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that you should feel refreshed,
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you know, that's how you know,
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you got enough sleep.
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And of course, it's good to
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sleep as early as you can,
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right?
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But you're right.
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So sleep deprivation, which is
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something that is common in our
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society, that also
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can promote
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this immune dysregulation
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in the body, yeah.
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>> So it's important that we get
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a good night's sleep.
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What about caffeinated
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beverages?
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Because they tend to stimulate
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and keep a person awake.
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>> Correct, yeah.
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So if caffeinated beverages is
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affecting someone's sleep,
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disrupting their sleep, which it
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can, then of course that's
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gonna-- that's not good for what
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we're talking about,
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the immune system.
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So absolutely.
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My recommendation to patients is
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really to try to cut caffeinated
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beverages as much as you can.
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You really shouldn't need them
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and it creates a dependency as
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well for many people which is
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not a healthy thing
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for you, so...
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Yeah.
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>> So what about a person who
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may be listening to this,
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viewing this and thinking,
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"Well, it's too late for me,
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I've already got chronic
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disease."
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Is it really too late for anyone
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in that condition?
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[DR. CHO] Mm-hmm...
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It's not too late.
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So studies have shown that
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the same lifestyle
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patterns that
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can help prevent disease can
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also help treat disease.
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So studies have shown that
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type 2 diabetes, for example,
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can in many cases be reversed
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by switching your lifestyle,
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particularly switching
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your diet.
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Same with heart disease.
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Heart disease, they thought for
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many years that it was,
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you couldn't reverse it,
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but now we know that
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you can through adopting a
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plant-based diet, exercising,
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smoking cessation, stress
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reduction, things like that.
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[MIKE] That's really good news.
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>> Yeah, absolutely.
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So...
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...obesity as well,
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which is an inflammatory state,
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can also be, you know, people
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can lose weight by switching
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your lifestyle.
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So I'll tell people that...
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...you know, don't be
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discouraged if you have a
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chronic condition right now,
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you have to just start working
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to change your lifestyle
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and then...
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...the body has an amazing
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ability to heal itself,
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you know?
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So we've seen it at the clinic.
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It's not a guarantee, obviously.
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And there's some conditions that
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are harder than others.
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For example, Alzheimer's is
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pretty difficult.
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Same with cancer as well, it
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might be a little bit more
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harder, but there's never,
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it's never too late to adopt a
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healthy lifestyle.
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So, yeah.
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>> And have people around you
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to support you through
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those things.
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You had mentioned alcohol
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earlier, we're gonna talk about
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that next week.
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That's a big one, right?
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>> Right.
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Yeah, exactly.
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You need support.
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Absolutely.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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>> But, Dr. George, change is so
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difficult.
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It's not easy and sometimes it
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can be so daunting and so
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overwhelming to people because
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now they have to start
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exercising, they need to reduce
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caffeine, they need to get
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enough sleep, they need to go
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out in nature.
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And so, you know, all of this is
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daunting and overwhelming.
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And so change is difficult.
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Is there something that you can
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maybe suggest just to
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make it possible for people
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not to feel too discouraged and
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too overwhelmed with everything
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that they need to do?
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>> Mm-hmm.
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So first I'll start saying
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that-- start by saying that,
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you know, living with disease is
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difficult and living a healthy
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lifestyle is difficult.
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So people will think that's it's
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one, like, that living a healthy
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lifestyle is the hard and the
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other side is easy.
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No, it's not.
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So you can choose the difficult
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path of living a healthy
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lifestyle, or you can choose a
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difficult path of
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living with a chronic disease.
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Number two is, as you know,
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we talked a lot about different
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things.
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So what I'll say is, I tell
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patients first begin with
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the diet.
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I believe that the biggest
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impact can be made really
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through diet.
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So we start the diet first.
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So switching to a plant-based
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diet, you know, moving towards
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that direction, right?
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Then start integrating these
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other things like exercise,
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which would probably number two,
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then start incorporating the
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other things.
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Take it step by step.
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However, I will say that don't
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make, some people, they, I think
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are just making very small
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changes here and there.
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To be honest, I don't think
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that's really the best either.
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You wanna, like, make as big of
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a change as you can because
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you'll see results more quickly
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and that's gonna be motivation
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for you.
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But again, you don't have to do
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everything all at once.
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That wouldn't be the right
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approach.
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Yeah.
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So diet number one, exercise
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number two, then start to go
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from there.
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Yeah.
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>> Thank you.
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That's very helpful, Dr. George.
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Yeah.
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>> So where does faith
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come into this?
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You know, your faith in God is
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important to you.
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Is that very helpful, especially
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when it comes to making these
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changes?
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>> Mm-hmm.
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So studies do show that people
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who have, they call it religious
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involvement or, like, spiritual
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practices, things like that.
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So people who engage in those
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types of behaviours, they tend
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to drink less, they tend to
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smoke less, do less drugs, they
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tend to be able to manage stress
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better, these types of things.
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And all those things can help
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the immune system.
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So in that way you can see how
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relig-- faith practices can be
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beneficial for the immune
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system.
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So that's one thing.
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Now you asked about, like, how
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faith can help you with making
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changes, so...
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Yeah, I believe that, you know,
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that humans are, naturally
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we're very weak and I believe
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that God helps us to have the
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strength, to give us the
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strength to make these changes.
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So when we're feeling weak,
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we can look up to God
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for the strength we need
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to make dietary changes
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and so forth.
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So absolutely.
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I do encourage my patients
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as much as possible to pray,
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to seek God for help, right?
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Yeah, and also many faith
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practices like, for example,
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Christianity and the Bible
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has good sets of lifestyle
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principles, health principles
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that, when followed,
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help reduce the risk of chronic
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diseases like what we've been
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talking about, right?
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So I think faith is an important
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part, has an important role in
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all this.
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Yeah.
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[MIKE] And the biggest thing
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that's open to all of us is
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really experience.
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You know, the Bible says that if
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you, you know, "Taste and see
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that the Lord is good and test
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Me," right, "and see that
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I am good."
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You know, "If you seek Me, you
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will find Me if you search with
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all your heart."
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What about the church?
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What can the church do to help
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people to, you know,
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be there for them?
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>> Mm-hmm.
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So when it comes to health,
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the Bible has a lot of good
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things to say, right, and the
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church needs to promote that
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more, kind of, be more open
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about it.
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So the Bible talks about how the
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original diet was a
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plant-based diet.
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Now, scientific evidence is
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aligning itself with that.
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So there's nothing to be
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ashamed about.
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We need to be promoting that
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to people.
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The Bible says, gives a lot of
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warnings about the use of
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alcohol, right?
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And just various ways to manage
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stress, the benefits of
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forgiveness, and these types
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of things.
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So the church needs to be
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educating its members
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and also the public
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through different means.
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Like...
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...with the organization that
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I'm involved in, we do things
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like lunch with the doctor where
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we invite the public to come,
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we provide them a healthy meal
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and we do a health talk
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on these lifestyle, various
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lifestyle principles, right?
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So there's that.
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You know, cooking classes,
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programs like this, literature,
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sharing literature that talks
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about biblical health
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principles.
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And also just partnering with
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people on their health journey,
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being there to support them.
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And also we do, like, a health
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retreat as well.
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It's called "One Week in
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Paradise," where we immerse
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people in a healthy lifestyle
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for one week.
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So there's different things that
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the church can do, but what I
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believe that the church needs to
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be a little bit more open about
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these health principles, a
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little bit more bold because
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society really needs it.
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And if there's anyone who should
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be interested in health, it
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should be Christians.
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Jesus was very much interested
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in people's health.
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The main thing that He did when
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He was on Earth was to
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heal people.
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So clearly He had an interest
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in the health of people.
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And so we need to do the same as
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well, right?
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God wants us to be healthy,
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so...
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>> Thank you.
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Thank you very much, Dr. Cho.
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We've come to the end of our
00:24:48.68\00:24:49.78
program.
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Are there any final thoughts
00:24:51.09\00:24:52.69
that you would like to share
00:24:52.69\00:24:53.59
with us before we pray?
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>> So what I always tell people
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is that...
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...don't assume that
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you're doing okay just because
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you don't have symptoms.
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Even when the doctor tells you
00:25:05.10\00:25:06.37
that you're healthy, it doesn't
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necessarily mean that you're
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healthy because lab tests don't
00:25:08.20\00:25:09.54
pick up on everything and
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symptoms often arrive late.
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So basically you have to live a
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healthy lifestyle that is
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your one...
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Again, it might not even be a
00:25:18.25\00:25:19.68
guarantee, but it's your best
00:25:19.68\00:25:20.95
chance, living a healthy
00:25:20.95\00:25:22.72
lifestyle, preventing these
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chronic diseases that's plaguing
00:25:24.05\00:25:25.72
so much of society.
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Yeah.
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>> So, Dr. Cho, thank you so
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much for sharing with us.
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I wonder if you could pray for
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our viewers.
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There might be someone who's
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saying, "Hey, this is great
00:25:33.70\00:25:34.56
information."
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Pray that they get the right
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kind of information that they
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need and that they can-- that
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they're inspired, really, to do
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this, so they're motivated,
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but most of all, that they can
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apply it.
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Because that's the biggest
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thing, right?
00:25:45.31\00:25:46.01
We have the information,
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inspiration, then application to
00:25:47.08\00:25:48.94
be able to apply all of this.
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So can you pray for that
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right now?
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>> Sure, sure.
00:25:52.98\00:25:53.98
Father, God in heaven, we
00:25:55.98\00:25:58.75
wanna pray for those who are
00:25:58.75\00:26:00.99
listening to this and wanting to
00:26:00.99\00:26:02.69
make changes in their life.
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Strength comes from You.
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You've made our bodies
00:26:06.59\00:26:08.46
and so we wanna ask that You
00:26:08.46\00:26:09.90
strengthen all those who are
00:26:09.90\00:26:11.13
making a decision today
00:26:11.13\00:26:13.03
to make a change in their
00:26:13.03\00:26:13.94
lifestyle, that You would help
00:26:13.94\00:26:16.14
them navigate the different
00:26:16.14\00:26:17.94
challenges that may arise.
00:26:17.94\00:26:20.08
I wanna pray for those
00:26:20.08\00:26:21.01
who are sick,
00:26:21.01\00:26:22.34
listening to this talk.
00:26:22.34\00:26:25.48
I wanna ask, oh God, that You
00:26:25.48\00:26:26.68
would bring healing to them
00:26:26.68\00:26:29.12
as they make changes in their
00:26:29.12\00:26:30.29
lifestyle as well.
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Pour Your grace upon them, Lord.
00:26:31.72\00:26:33.49
May they experience the
00:26:33.49\00:26:34.46
health that You want for them.
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We pray in Jesus name.
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Amen.
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[MIKE & RENÉ] Amen.
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>> Dr. George, thank you so much
00:26:41.03\00:26:42.60
for joining us on It Is
00:26:42.60\00:26:44.10
Written Canada.
00:26:44.10\00:26:44.90
We are looking forward to
00:26:44.90\00:26:46.10
meeting with you again
00:26:46.10\00:26:47.27
next week.
00:26:47.27\00:26:48.27
>> No problem.
00:26:48.27\00:26:49.24
>> As Dr. Cho shared with us,
00:26:51.61\00:26:53.78
good health is not a matter of
00:26:53.78\00:26:55.68
chance.
00:26:55.68\00:26:56.81
Lifestyle is a choice
00:26:56.81\00:26:59.11
and it makes a difference.
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>> Our free offer can help you
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to make those meaningful
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experiencing optimal health.
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It's entitled Eight Secrets to
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Health will show you how cutting
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guesswork out of living
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healthier and longer.
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>> Before you go, we would like
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>> Friends, to be honest, Jesus
00:27:59.84\00:28:01.71
is offering you health and life
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that is beyond our temporary
00:28:04.45\00:28:05.75
existence, beyond our ongoing
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struggles with the pain,
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suffering, and sorrows
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of this life.
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We would like to recommend to
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you that you open the Bible
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where it is recorded that Jesus
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Himself found His assurance to
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defeat the Devil through the
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Word of His Father
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when He declared...
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