[CHRIS] I do what's called
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ultra-endurance bikepacking
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races and these are races
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typically of several thousand
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kilometres long.
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I've done a seven and a half
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thousand kilometre race from
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Norway to Spain, four and a half
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thousand kilometre races, London
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to Istanbul, length of New
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Zealand across Australia.
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And the concept behind these
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races is it's you and your bike
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with no outside support
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to the finish line.
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And you ride,
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you follow a set route
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and you ride as long as you want
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each day.
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And so I've averaged 230
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kilometres for 32 and a half
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days right now.
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So I've done 7,400 kilometres to
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where we are right now.
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And this race has got-- is a 12
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and a half thousand kilometre
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race, it's the longest one
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in the world.
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>> Welcome to It Is Written
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Canada.
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Thank you for joining us.
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Chris Bennett is a civil
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engineer and an avid cyclist.
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When Chris is pedalling along a
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trail on his bike, he is in his
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happy place.
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In fact, Chris enjoys cycling so
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intensely that he has taken on
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some of the world's most
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beautiful, most demanding and
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longest cycling trails, tracks,
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paths, and lanes connected by
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enjoyable wilderness roads.
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>> Chris challenged himself to
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ride the Tour Aotearoa,
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a cycle along the entire coast
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of New Zealand, stretching 3000
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kilometres from Cape Reinga in
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the north to Bluff in the south.
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His first attempt in 2016 was
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promptly curtailed by a health
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challenge, and his second effort
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in 2018 ended
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in a bad crash
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at the 750
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kilometre mark,
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which meant 4 hours
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of facial reconstructive surgery
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and a traumatic brain injury.
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[RENÉ] Four years later, Chris
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trained hard and promised his
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wife, Lis, that he would not
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overdo it.
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Then he took the road on his
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bike, finishing first in his
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wave of riders.
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However, Chris disqualified
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himself in the end because
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although he finished first,
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he was unable to ride a few
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unpaved trails when his brain
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injury acted up and so he chose
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to stay on adjacent, smoother,
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paved roads.
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[MIKE] But that wasn't enough
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for Chris.
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A Canadian by birth, a few
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months later, he also took the
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challenge of the hardest and
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longest, self-supporting ultra
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endurance bike race in the
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entire world.
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And he won.
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The TransCanada Ultra crosses
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Canada from the north to the
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south and from the west to the
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east, a distance of 12,500
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kilometres from Whitehorse to
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Newfoundland.
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>> Our film crew met up with
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Chris while he was pedalling
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through Oshawa, Ontario, and he
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graciously stopped to share some
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of his insights on how he has
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chosen to trust God to take care
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of everything while he rides
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along some of the world's most
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arduous and impressive
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cycling trails.
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>> In a moment, you will meet
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Chris and hear some of the
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stories of his incredible
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faith-building adventures.
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>> Welcome back to It is Written
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Canada.
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Thank you for joining us.
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Imagine discovering your dream
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job, I mean, you see it, your
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dream job, and you say to
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yourself, "I'm gonna do whatever
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it takes to get that job."
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And so you set out with all your
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grit, all your guts, and all
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your determination
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to get that job.
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>> You study, get the
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necessary degrees and
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qualifications and experience,
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and you rise in the ranks
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at your work.
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And what if it takes you 19
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years of blood, sweat, and tears
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to get to the place where you
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are perfectly qualified to do
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your dream job?
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And the person in charge gives
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you a call and says,
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"The job is yours."
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>> But instead of accepting it,
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you pause and you say, "Give me
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a week to pray about it
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and to talk to my wife."
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And the next day you pray and
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God speaks to your conscience,
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telling you not to take the job.
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What do you do?
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>> Our special guest on It Is
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Written Canada today is
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Chris Bennett, who faced this
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precise predicament.
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Chris is a passionate ultra
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endurance cyclist who our film
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crew met up with while he was
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pedalling through Oshawa,
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Ontario, cycling across Canada
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in a 12 and a half thousand
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kilometre ultra-endurance
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bikepacking race,
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the hardest and longest
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self-supporting bike race
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in the world,
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The TransCanada Ultra,
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which he later won.
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[MIKE] We'll let Chris tell you
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himself how he handled this
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unexpected, unwanted answer to
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prayer and how trusting God's
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"No" turned out to be way better
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for his career than his burning
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desire to say yes to his dream
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job when it was offered to him
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for the taking.
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Here's Chris.
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>> Hi, I'm Chris Bennett and as
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you can see from my outfit, I'm
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a passionate cyclist.
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In fact, cycling has been a key
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part of my Christian walk.
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I'd like to share with you a
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testimony of how God changed my
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entire life through cycling.
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When I was 25, I was studying in
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Auckland University for my
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master's degree.
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I was looking for a topic for my
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thesis and this guy from the
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World Bank came in and presented
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on his job and I thought,
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"I want your job."
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It was working developing
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countries, helping people.
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So I did a master's degree, then
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a PhD, and I worked for
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17 years getting experience
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so I could actually get this job
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at the World Bank.
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And so that was 1983.
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In 2002, I got a phone call from
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World Bank, I was working in
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Cambodia, and they said, "We'd
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like to offer-- to interview you
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for a job."
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So they flew me to Bangkok and I
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had an interview and they called
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me the next morning and said,
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"Right, the job's yours.
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Here's the package.
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I guess you accept."
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So here it is, for 19 years I've
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waited for this moment.
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What was my response?
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I said, "I need a week to pray
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about it and talk to my wife."
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The next day for my devotions I
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was reading this book
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and the first thing it said was,
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"The Commandment says 'Thou
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shall have no other God before
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me,'" dot, dot, dot, "'and that
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includes your job.'"
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So imagine giving
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that response.
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And then the next morning God
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says to me, "Be very careful."
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And as I thought about it and
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prayed about, spoke to my wife,
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I became convinced this wasn't
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what God wanted me to do.
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So what do you do?
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You know, 19 years, five years
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of university, all this work.
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So I contacted them back and I
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said, "Look, it's not the job,
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I really want this, but I've
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prayed about it, it just is not
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the right time frame.
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I'm really sorry."
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And that was it.
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So afterwards I was, you know,
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kind of a total loss as to what
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to do so I went and rode my
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mountain bike from Canada to
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Mexico, along the Rocky
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Mountains.
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Four and a half thousand
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kilometres, took me two months.
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And I was in New Mexico, just
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south of Silver City, when a bad
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storm hit.
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And I was sheltering in my tent
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and I got this really clear
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impression from God saying,
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"You can take the job, but you
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can't ask for it."
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And I thought, "Is this hunger,
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is this tiredness?
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Because how can you take a job
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and not ask for it?
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And besides which, this is now
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six months since I said, "No
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thank you."
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So I thought, this is just
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crazy.
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So I finished my bike ride and I
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went up to Toronto to visit
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my parents.
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Monday morning, 9:30, the phone
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rings, it's the World Bank.
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They said, "Have you changed
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your mind?"
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And I said, "Well, actually, now
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that you ask, um, yes."
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So I ended up in October 2003
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working for the World Bank.
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So a lot of people ask me, why
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is it that you had this delay?
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Because you could have gone a
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year earlier and made such a
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difference.
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But it was really clear to me.
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You see, I had spent 19 years
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of ambition for this job,
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and by saying no to it,
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God showed me I wasn't there for
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my ambition, I was there
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to serve Him.
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And it really changed the whole
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dynamics, because it meant that
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when presented with
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opportunities with the World
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Bank, it wasn't, "Oh, how can I
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progress my career?" it's, "Is
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this consistent with what God
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wants me to do?"
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And it also gave me a huge sense
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of freedom.
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Like, one time my boss said to
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me that, you know, he wasn't
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happy with me and he might fire
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me and I said, "That's really
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okay because I'm here at God's
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will and He opens and closes
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doors all the time.
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So if you choose to move me on,
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it's really okay with me because
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that means God has other plans
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for my life."
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He goes, "You're crazy."
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I said, "Don't ask you to
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believe it, just accept that I'm
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really quite indifferent
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because, you know, in the end
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I'm here to serve God."
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And it was a great opportunity
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and I spent 18 years at the
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World Bank and it was a
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fantastic job and I'm really
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grateful for God's opening that
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door in my life.
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>> Why do you do what you do?
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Is it just the job?
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Is it your career?
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Or is it your calling?
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>> Remember what Chris said.
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Having said no, gave him a
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chance to ask the question,
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is this job consistent with what
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God wants me to do?
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>> And it also gave Chris a huge
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sense of freedom.
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He had no fear of losing his job
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because in the end he knew that
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he was working to serve God and
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not for the paycheck or the
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status, or because the job was
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his idol.
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>> His job at the World Bank was
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not his sense of identity
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or his sense of value
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as a person.
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He was free from all fear.
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Just imagine working
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every day, free
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from all fear.
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>> Working in a high-stress job
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like he did at the World Bank
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was very gruelling and was, in
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fact, wearing him down.
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So besides not being afraid of
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losing his job, just knowing
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that God wanted him in that
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particular job would make it
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a lot harder to quit when the
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going got really, really tough.
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We'll let Chris himself tell you
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what his dream job was like.
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>> So during my time with the
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World Bank, I'm a civil
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engineer, I did a whole range
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of things.
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And in fact, I ended up being
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appointed the World Bank's first
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advisor for addressing
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environmental and social issues
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on the transport sector.
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And that was because I took a
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real interest in the soft side
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of things.
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For example, I introduced
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HIV/AIDS training to China for
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construction workers.
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And the World Bank is a
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fantastic job, but really hard.
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I travelled six months of the
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year to all these developing
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countries.
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I got really worn down.
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And in 2010 I was just really
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tired of the job.
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And one day before church I went
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out for a bike ride and cycling
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is my real happy place where I
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can just meditate and I can just
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zone out.
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And I was praying to God during
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my bike ride saying, "You know,
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I'm really tired.
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I really don't want to do this
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travel anymore.
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I really just want to do this,
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this, this, and this."
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And God came through really
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clear to me and said,
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"Everything you said there
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starts with the word, 'I.'
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You are not at the World Bank
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for yourself, you're there to
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fulfill My will."
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So I went back from my bike ride
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and told my wife this story,
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and we went to church.
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And that day the theme of the
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sermon was fulfilling God's
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purpose in your life.
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So my wife turned to me and
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said, "Um, I think God has
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pretty clearly answered your
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question about what He wants you
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to do, it's keep staying where
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you are."
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And subsequent to that, I
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started working more and more in
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the Pacific Islands.
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And one of the things in the
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Pacific Islands is there's a
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huge problem with gender-based
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violence, where seven out of ten
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women are victims of
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gender-based violence, there's a
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lot of child abuse as well.
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And so my team and I, we started
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a process to...
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...have programs to try and
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ameliorate the effect of
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gender-based violence in the
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communities where we were doing
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our projects.
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And we developed all these
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protocols and we're really
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making a good impact in the
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Pacific.
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And then what happened was,
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there's a problem in Uganda.
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And it transpired that the other
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parts of the World Bank were
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doing what we were doing.
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So I got the opportunity to lead
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the work at the World Bank and
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develop the guidelines for
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addressing gender-based
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violence, which is now used
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throughout the World Bank.
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And then an opportunity came up
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to develop the guidelines for
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doing road safety and how to
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actually do projects to
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prevent-- to protect people from
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traffic accidents and save lots
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of lives.
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And so I really could see how if
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I'd left the Bank when I wanted
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to leave it, I wouldn't have had
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that impact of helping out with
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gender-based violence, child
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abuse, developing standards for
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road safety.
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And it was interesting is that
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after I finished those
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elements of my work, I felt at
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peace for leaving the Bank.
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And it's as if God had said,
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"Right, you've now fulfilled
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what I wanted you to do."
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And so I was able to retire
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and quite happily end my time
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at the Bank.
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>> Chris had to stick it out to
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fulfill God's purpose
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in his life.
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Interesting word, "fulfill."
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It's actually two words, "full"
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and "fill."
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Or in other words, to fill full.
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To fulfill God's purpose in your
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life, you need to complete what
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He asks you to do.
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>> Jesus told an embarrassing
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story of a man who started
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building a tower, and then he
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ran out of money.
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He did not fulfill his purpose
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because he did not count
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the cost.
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>> Since Chris does ultra
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endurance bikepacking races,
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races that are typically several
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thousand kilometres long, he has
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learned what it means to
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stick with it
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until you get the job done.
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As a Christian, your job is
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never finished.
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I am reminded of how Jesus was
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possessed of one purpose.
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He lived to bless others.
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There is always work to do when
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you're blessing others.
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Helping those who are lost or
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lonely, or just needing a
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helping hand.
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>> I do what's called
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ultra-endurance bikepacking
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races and these are races
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typically of several thousand
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kilometres long.
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I've done a seven and a half
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thousand kilometre race from
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Norway to Spain, four and a half
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thousand kilometre races, London
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to Istanbul, length of New
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Zealand, across Australia.
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And the concept behind these
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races is it's you and your bike
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with no outside support
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to the finish line.
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And you ride,
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you follow a set route
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and you ride as long as you want
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each day.
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And so I've averaged 230
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kilometres for 32 and a half
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days right now.
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So I've done 7,400 kilometres to
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where we are right now.
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And this race has got-- is a 12
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and a half thousand kilometre
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race, it's the longest one in
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the world.
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Yeah, and I find them uniquely
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challenging because when
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something goes wrong, you've got
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to deal with it.
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Like my bicycle broke to the
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west of Sault Ste. Marie and I
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had to cycle 600 kilometres to a
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bicycle shop with one gear.
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And you just deal with it.
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We've had people with their
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bikes brake in the deserts and
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they've had the cable tie their
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cassettes to the spokes to get
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to where they want to go to.
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So it's all about you and your
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bike and your personal
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resilience.
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When things go wrong, you can't
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throw a hissy fit next to the,
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next the right side of the road,
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just deal with it.
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I also really find, because my
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bicycle's my happy place, I like
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just spending the hours and
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hours just pedalling.
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I'm very happy doing that.
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I often listen to the Bible,
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I listen to music, podcasts,
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but like today I've cycled 7
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hours just with nothing on just
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because I really just enjoy just
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the peace of riding my bicycle
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through beautiful scenery and
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meeting people.
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And this is the other aspect to
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this racing is that you meet
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people from all over as you're
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cycling along, meet people and
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they say, you know, "Why are you
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doing this, are you being paid?"
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And they say, "No, I just like
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to ride my bike."
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It's a huge source of discussion
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and I often can use as a witness
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to people as well when I explain
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how God's influenced my-- in my
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life and creating opportunities.
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I think we witness as Christians
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in ways that we're not aware of.
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For example, because people know
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I'm a Christian, if something
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goes wrong and I start, you
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know, they look at how
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I respond.
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It's like in this race, the
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organizers said it's amazing how
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I just accept whatever
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goes wrong.
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Well, I think that comes with
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our faith, that we learn just to
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roll with how things are and...
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...people watch us.
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But you also interact with a
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totally different group of
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people that you normally have.
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In these races, you-- I've raced
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against bike couriers, I've
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raced against different
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nationalities, I've raced
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against all sorts of people.
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And in fact, one time I was
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doing London to Istanbul,
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and this is an interesting story
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because it shows the
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interactions, we tend to fall
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into groups of similar distances
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every day.
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And so I was doing about 250
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kilometres a day and there were
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half a dozen others with the
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same distances.
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And so we'd often find ourselves
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in the same hotels at night or
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the same campgrounds.
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And one morning we were having
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breakfast with three other
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racers and one who looked at her
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phone and said, "Oh, there's
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riots in Kosovo.
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I can't go that route and I
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don't know what to do."
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So I took my Garmin
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and took out the memory card and
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said, "Here's a route through
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Albania and Greece that'll get
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you to the finish line."
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And she said, "Why are you
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giving me this?"
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And I said, "What do you mean?"
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She says, "Well, this is a £100
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memory card.
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You just met me this morning."
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And I said, "Well, you're in
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trouble and this is what
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people do."
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So we ended up riding together
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and we spent the next night in
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an Albanian brothel.
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That's another story.
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And...
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...about two days later on, she
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said to me, "You know, I'm a
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lesbian."
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And I said, "Yeah, I worked out
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that the first day."
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She says, "But you're Christian,
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you're being so nice to me."
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And I sort of realized that her
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only interaction with Christians
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had come from a negative,
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critical side.
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And I said, "Well, I mean, who
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you are and what you do is not
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my business.
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My business is just to help you
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and be nice to you."
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And since that time, she has
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become like a foster daughter to
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my wife and I.
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She's visited us twice in New
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Zealand and we've helped her get
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established in the UK.
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And it just shows how God will
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bring people into your lives you
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would never normally interact
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with and you have an opportunity
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as a Christian just to show
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God's love to people.
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And that's what we're
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supposed to do.
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¤ Do not wait until some deed ¤
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¤ of greatness you may do ¤
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¤ Do not wait ¤
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¤ to shed your light afar ¤
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¤ To the many duties ¤
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¤ ever near you now be true ¤
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¤ Brighten the corner ¤
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¤ where you are ¤
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¤ Brighten the corner ¤
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¤ Shine for Jesus ¤
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¤ where you are ¤
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¤ Brighten the corner ¤
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¤ where you are ¤
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¤ Someone far from harbour ¤
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¤ you may guide across the bar ¤
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¤ Brighten the corner ¤
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¤ where you are ¤
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¤ Just above are clouded skies ¤
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¤ that you may help to clear ¤
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¤ Let not narrow ¤
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¤ self your way debar ¤
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¤ Though into one heart alone ¤
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¤ may fall your song of cheer ¤
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¤ Brighten the corner ¤
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¤ where you are ¤
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¤ Brighten the corner ¤
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¤ Shine for Jesus ¤
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¤ where you are ¤
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¤ Brighten the corner ¤
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¤ where you are ¤
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¤ Someone far from harbour ¤
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¤ you may guide across the bar ¤
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¤ Brighten the corner ¤
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¤ where you are ¤
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¤ Here for all your talent ¤
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¤ you may surely find a need ¤
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¤ Here reflect ¤
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¤ the bright and Morning Star ¤
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¤ Even from your humble hand ¤
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¤ the Bread of Life may feed ¤
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¤ Brighten the corner ¤
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¤ where you are ¤
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¤ Brighten the corner ¤
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¤ Shine for Jesus ¤
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¤ where you are ¤
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¤ Brighten the corner ¤
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¤ where you are ¤
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¤ Someone far from harbour ¤
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¤ you may guide across the bar ¤
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¤ Brighten the corner ¤
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¤ where you are ¤
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>> So although these are
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bikepacking races, as a
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Christian, we have a different
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philosophy towards competition.
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I'm not here to beat anyone,
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I'm here to just do the best
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that I can.
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And that influences how I race.
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And one time I was racing across
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Australia in the Indian Pacific
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Wheel Race, which was a five and
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a half thousand kilometre race
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from Perth to Sydney.
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And a friend of mine, Vasiliki,
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from Greece, was racing as well,
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and she developed what's called
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Shermer's neck.
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And this what happens when you
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spend too much time on your
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aerobars, and you lose the
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ability to raise your neck.
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And the thing was, she wouldn't
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withdraw from the race.
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And I got a call from the race
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organizer saying, "She ran into
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a parked car, I've heard from
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the police, she's gonna hurt
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herself, but she won't withdraw
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from the race."
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So I contacted Vasiliki and I
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said, "Vasiliki, just stop.
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I will ride with you
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and make sure that you're safe."
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So we got together and I then
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spent, we then developed
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a strategy.
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Because you couldn't raise her
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head, she would ride along and I
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would stay about 20 meters
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behind her and when traffic
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came, I'd yell, "Vasiliki, get
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over, get over."
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And so we rode from Adelaide
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about a thousand kilometres that
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way and I'd stopped my race
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because to me it was no longer
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about me doing the best I could
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in the race, it was, my purpose
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in that race was to make sure
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Vasiliki didn't kill herself.
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And I was totally okay with no
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longer racing my race
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because it was more important
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that she was safe.
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And this influences how we race.
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Another time when I was racing
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Norway to Spain, there were
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three of us who were in
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competition for eight, ninth,
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and tenth place.
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And we were in Spain, I was
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going up this mountain and the
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race, the rider who was going in
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eighth place was coming down
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and he was really, really sick
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with a gastro problem.
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And I had a chat with Mike, his
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name was Mike and I said, "Mike,
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what's going on?"
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He goes, "Oh, I spent last
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night-- I was really sick and I
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don't know if I'm gonna finish."
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Now, being an ex-World Banker, I
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carry the ultimate medical kit
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for things like that.
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So I said, "Right!"
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So I took my medical kit out and
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I gave it to, I gave him
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the medications and I said, "You
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take these and they'll solve
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your problem in a few hours and
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you'll be able to keep racing."
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Now, in a normal competitive
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race, you wouldn't give the
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person two spots ahead of you
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the medicine to keep them
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in the race.
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But for me, it's far more
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important that he finishes than
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I come in ahead of him.
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And once again, it's a
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philosophy behind racing where
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it's not about beating the
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opposition, do the best you can,
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and if anyone else that you come
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across is in trouble, you don't
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relish the fact you'll jump a
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spot ahead of them, you help
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them out.
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And I think that's how it should
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just be in life.
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When you see someone in need,
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you just help them.
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After retiring from the World
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Bank, I live in New Zealand in
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this great place called Golden
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Bay, and the retired people
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asked me to give a talk about my
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World Bank career to them.
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So I discussed the work I was
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doing, I built airports and
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highways in China, and one of
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the projects I did was I was
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responsible to build 400 houses
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in Tonga after cyclone.
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So this guy, Frank, asked me a
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question saying, "Chris, if you
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can build 400 houses in Tonga
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after a cyclone, can't you do
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something about the housing
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crisis here in Golden Bay?"
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So God really put an impression
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on me that I needed to do
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something about this.
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And as I prayed about it,
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I realized that He wanted me
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to do something.
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So I started a project which we
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call "The Golden Bay Affordable
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Housing Project."
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And what we've done is the
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approach we used in Tonga was
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quite unique.
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By law, women can't own land in
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Tonga, and after the cyclone
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most of the beneficiaries for
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housing were women and were
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quite concerned they would lose
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their houses that we built
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for them.
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So we found out that an approach
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to use was to separate the house
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from the land.
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So we would sign a lease for the
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land and then put the house on
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the land.
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And so by separating out land
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from the house, it creates a
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possibility of creating
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affordable housing.
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So I adopted that approach for
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New Zealand and we've built four
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houses so far and we have
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another five under preparation.
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And our goal is to
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really make an impact on
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the housing crisis.
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And I've had a lot of support
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from the Christians in Golden
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Bay who are providing funding
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for the houses.
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One Christian couple provided
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part of their land for free for
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people to live on.
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And so it's a really great
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witness that you can help your
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community to make a difference.
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And it's been really great for
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me to be able to continue to use
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my World Bank skills today
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when I'm not riding my bicycle
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across Canada
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and help people
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because really that's what
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Christianity is all about,
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making a difference.
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[gentle guitar music]
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>> Near the end of his journey,
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the Apostle Paul sounded
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somewhat like an ultra endurance
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bikepacking racer when he
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declared...
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Helping people,
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that is what
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this Christian ultra endurance
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race is all about.
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Making a difference.
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>> And what it creative way
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Chris made a difference,
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by helping his community build
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affordable housing and by
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helping his fellow ultra
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endurance bikepackers
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see the love of Jesus in action.
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That is what Christianity is all
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about, and that is what our free
00:27:12.73\00:27:15.20
offer today is all about,
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showing how God Still Lives
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Even When You Wonder.
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>> Just like Chris, let the love
00:27:22.77\00:27:25.17
of the Lord shine through
00:27:25.17\00:27:26.54
his life, our free offer reveals
00:27:26.54\00:27:29.28
how God still lives today.
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>> These true testimonies of
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God's faithfulness will
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encourage you to trust Him more
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fully and also inspire you to
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live by faith and not by
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sight alone.
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>> Before you go, we would like
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to thank all of you who have
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Written Canada with your prayers
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Without your support, this
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have reached so many people
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>> You, too, can experience the
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fullness of life that is found
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in the words of Jesus
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when He said...
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[guitar music continues]
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[sea gulls calling]
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[guitar music continues]
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