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>> Welcome to
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It Is Written Canada.
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Thank you for joining us.
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When Don MacLafferty's skeleton
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key, after multiple repeated
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attempts, finally opened that
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locked door in Zimbabwe, it led
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him on a mission that he could
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never have imagined.
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[RENÉ] Don MacLafferty is a
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missionary, a revivalist and a
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disciple-maker for Jesus, who
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travels around the world
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introducing people
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to his best friend.
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>> Don is here today to tell us
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what happened that night and why
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that skeleton key refused to
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open that door and how opening
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that door led him on an
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assignment to destroy
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the Devil's domain.
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[RENÉ] Don, thank you for
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joining us again on It Is
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Written Canada.
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[DON] It's a joy to be here.
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[MIKE] Don, tell us about that
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skeleton key.
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[DON] Oh, the skeleton key.
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I'll never forget it.
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I thought I was finished
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with my work in Zimbabwe
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and I got a last minute
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opportunity to go and speak to a
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high school campus about Jesus.
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And I was tired, so, so tired.
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I said, "Where am I sleeping
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tonight?"
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They said, "Well, because you
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came here last minute, we don't
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really have that planned, but
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we'll figure it out.
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Follow us."
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They took me to a
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long, big building, a dormitory
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that's right up against a high,
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high fence that's supposed to
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keep the leopards out
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of the university campus
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where I was.
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Supposed to.
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So they gave me a long skeleton
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key, you know those old timey
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keys, and they said, "Here's
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your key for your room."
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So I popped it in the door and
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turned it, and it did exactly
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what I thought, it just popped
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open and I walked into a tiny
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little bedroom, which is fine
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with me, it's all I needed.
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I was so exhausted, I said,
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"Goodnight, everyone,
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I'm going to sleep."
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I got ready for bed
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and knelt down.
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I said, "God, is there anything
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else on Your heart
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for me to do here in Zimbabwe
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before I go home
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in about the next day,
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day and a half?”
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And that was my prayer.
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And that's still, small voice of
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God said to my mind, said to my
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heart, "Come outside under the
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stars, and I'll tell you."
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Whoa, I was now very, very
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awake, because, you know, God
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still speaks.
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He still speaks to His people.
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He doesn't speak audibly to me
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like, "Hey, Don," but He speaks
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to my mind, He speaks to my
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heart and I test these things
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with the written Word of God.
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That's very, very important.
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So I put on my warm clothes
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because it actually was a cold
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time in Africa and I went out
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under the stars.
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The stars were just like I could
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just pick them right out of the
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sky because artificial light was
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so far away.
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Rarely do I see that on the
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planet today.
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And I went right out into the
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tall grasses where the cobra are
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during the hot part of the day,
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but this is a cold part and so I
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trusted that they were all in
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their dens, their holes.
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So I knelt down in those tall
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grasses and I said, "God," I
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lifted my hands up, "God, what's
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on Your heart?"
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And there's still, small voice
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said, "Ask Me to do much, much
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more for Africa."
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And I thought that was a
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little strange.
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Why would God ask me to ask Him?
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But, you know, this is the
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amazing quality of our
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amazing God.
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He does want us to ask of Him.
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So I lifted my hands up
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in the darkness.
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"God," I said,
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"I am asking you to do much,
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much more for Africa."
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And as soon as I asked Him,
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my heart became peaceful
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and I could hear the birds
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and I could hear the wind
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through the tall grasses.
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And I knew I could now go back
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to my room and go to sleep.
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So I got up and went through the
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grass and came up to the
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dormitory, took out my key,
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popped it in the door, turned it
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and it wouldn't open.
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I thought, "That's crazy.
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I must be doing something wrong.
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I'm too sleepy."
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I rub my eyes.
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I did it again, second time,
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third time, fourth, fifth,
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sixth, 10th time,
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15th time.
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Now, I was getting upset, maybe
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even a little upset with God.
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"Why are You not allowing
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me to sleep?
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I've been here preaching and
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teaching for Jesus, and I just
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simply need to sleep."
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And I couldn't get in the door.
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And the still, small voice of
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God said, "Don, you're not
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getting into your room yet
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because there's someone for
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you to meet."
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"But I don't know anybody in
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this whole dormitory.
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They don't even know that I came
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here tonight.
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It's unplanned."
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And He said, "Oh, there's
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somebody for you to meet."
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So I thought, "Oh, great, this
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is gonna be embarrassing."
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I've gotta walk through a dark
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dormitory.
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So I am padding my way through a
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long hallway, unlit...
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...and I thought, "Which door
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am I gonna knock on?"
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And God said, "Do you trust Me?"
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"Well, yes, I trust--
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Yes, I trust You."
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And so I'm walking along and
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I'm thinking, "This is gonna be
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so embarrassing.
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I'm gonna knock on one of these
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doors and they're gonna see my
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white face in the darkness, I'm
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gonna scare them to death."
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And so I thought, "I don't know
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which one to go to."
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And there was beautiful
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music and light
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pouring out of one door.
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The whole hallway is dark,
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everybody is sound asleep.
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Somebody's still awake.
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I thought, "Okay, I'm gonna make
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this really, really easy so I
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can get out of here fast.
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God told me to knock on the
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door, so I'm gonna do it,
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but I'm gonna knock very, very
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softly and if no one answers,
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I'll say, "God, I did my part."
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So I just barely tap on the door
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and the door swings open like
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this, like they're waiting for
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me all the time.
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And this face comes out in the
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darkness and sees my white face
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and he says, [gasps]
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"Who are you?"
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And I said, "I'm not a robber,
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I promise I'm not a robber."
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I said, "I'm Pastor Don and I'm
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just teaching here in your
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country, but I," and I held up
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my skeleton key, "I'm
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embarrassed to say
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I cannot get
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my door open."
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And he said, "Oh," he said,
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"My friend.
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Come with me.
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I've been coming here for a
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long, long time.
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I can help you get in
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to your door.
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I've been studying here
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for some time.
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So I followed him over to the
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room and I handed him the key,
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he took the key and turned it
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just once and guess what
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happened?
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[MIKE] It opened.
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[RENÉ] You got in?
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[DON] No!
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It wouldn't open.
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And he tried again and again and
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again and again.
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He said, "Ack! What's wrong with
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this key?
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I have use every key probably in
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this whole building and they've
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always opened the first time."
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And I was like, "Oh no, I can't
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believe this is happening."
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He said, "Hey, wait, wait.
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Wait right here."
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And he got a big strapping young
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man and he said, "This man,
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this young man is a student,
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he can get in anything."
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He took my key and he just went
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like this and his muscles were
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just there, you know, he's like
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a wrestler.
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And he worked and worked until
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he started sweating in the
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cold night.
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And he said, "Ah, Pastor," he
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said, "I can't open this
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either."
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And then he said, "But wait
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right here."
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And he goes all the way to the
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other side of the campus,
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brings back a big bushel
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basket full of keys,
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many duplicate keys of my door.
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And the dean of the school
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is trying each one.
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And it doesn't-- each one
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doesn't open.
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I'm getting more and more
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frustrated.
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Pastor Willard is across the
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hallway from me and he's
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watching this with much
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interest.
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And the still, small voice of
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God says, "Ask Pastor Willard...
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...what can I do for you?
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How can I help you?"
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I said, "God, April and I
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agreed, I only have $100
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in my pocket for emergencies.
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I'm happy to give this man $100
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if it'd help him, but what if he
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asks me for something bigger
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than what I have in my pocket?
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And then I'd have to say, 'I'm
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sorry, I don't--
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I can't help you.'"
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And stronger that the still,
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small voice of God said,
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"Ask him."
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And I gave Him another excuse.
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"But $100 can only go so far.
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What if he wants me to put his
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children through school?"
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Third time He says with urgency,
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"Don, ask him,
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what do you need?
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How can I help you?"
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So I said, "Pastor Willard,"
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I said, "God is moving my heart
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to ask you what do you need?
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How can I help you?"
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He got a big smile on his face.
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Too big.
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And I thought, "Oh, no,
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he's gonna ask me for something
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bigger than what I had
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to help him."
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And he said
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to the dean, "Please give me
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Pastor Don's key."
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I thought, "Why does he want
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the key?
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I already know it doesn't work."
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And so he took it and he went
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and he put it right in the door.
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He turned it once
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and the door opened.
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[MIKE] Wow.
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>> The door only opened after I
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obeyed that still, small voice
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of God that says, "Ask him, how
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can I help you and what do
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you need?"
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Interesting, isn't it?
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That's never happened to me
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ever again, before this story or
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after this story.
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So we said goodnight to
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everybody, except I said,
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"Pastor Willard, let's get on
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our knees."
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We got on our knees and prayed.
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And I said, "What do you need
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and how can I help you?"
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And he said, "What do you do?"
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And I said, "I do training all
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around the world, training
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people on how to call children,
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youth, and adults all together
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to revival with Jesus.
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And then I train them on how to
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live as disciples and
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disciple-makers, especially the
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new generations."
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"Oh, why don't you come to
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Northern Zambia?
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We need such training."
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And I sat back in my chair and I
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felt comfortable because it was
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something I already knew
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how to do.
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And as soon as I sat back and
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felt comfortable, that still,
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small voice said, "Yes, that's
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good, but there's something
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most urgent
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and he hasn't told you yet."
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"Pastor Willard," I said,
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"I'm sorry to disturb you,
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but have you really told me
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what's urgent
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for you to tell me?"
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And he hung his head like this,
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and he looked up with tears in
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his eyes and he said, "We do not
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have Christian schools
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for our children.
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We desperately need Christian
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schools, Bible schools for our
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children."
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I said, "Oh, you mean like you
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want a little, like a little
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one-room schoolhouse?"
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I was trying to take a need
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and put it down as small as I
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could so I could get my mind
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around how I could help him.
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Do you follow me?
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And he said,
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"No, not exactly.
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We need a whole
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secondary campus
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carved right out of the bush
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country where there's nothing
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and we need a dormitory for the
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girls, a dormitory for the
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boys," and on and on he went and
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my heart just sank.
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And I was just thinking, "Oh,
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this is so out of my league,"
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when he said, "Excuse me, that's
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only part of it.
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We need actually two of those
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kinds of schools.
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We have nothing for our
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children."
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And I said very quietly, I said,
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"Thank you," I gave him a weak
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handshake, "Thank you for
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sharing these needs with me.
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I know God arranged this, but I
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have no idea what to say.
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God bless you.
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Have a good night."
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And so he walked out.
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I got on my knees and I said,
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"God, what was that?"
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And He said, "Don,
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you asked me under the stars
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to do much more for Africa
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and I have had you meet Pastor
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Sichilima so that you could hear
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this need in northern Zambia.
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These schools are what I'm
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asking you to build."
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>> Wow!
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And so that key only worked
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after you met that pastor and
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asked him the right question.
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[DON] Yes, exactly.
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[RENÉ] Okay, so, Don, can you
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tell us about these two
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secondary schools in Zambia?
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>> You know, I'm not a builder,
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I'm not independently wealthy.
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I thought to myself, "Who am I
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to build two secondary school
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campuses out of the bush,
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you know, out of the raw bush?"
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But, you know, God still lives.
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He's powerful
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and He has all the cattle on a
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thousand hills, Scripture says.
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And so I went to my congregation
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that wasn't a super wealthy
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congregation and at the time I
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was pastoring, the church in
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California, in Clovis,
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California, and we prayed,
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earnestly prayed, and we came
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under conviction as a
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congregation that God wanted
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us to do something much bigger
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than ourselves.
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And we started all sacrificing
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our little bits and selling off
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things that we didn't really
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need in our homes.
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And it wasn't that there was any
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great big contributions, there
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were many, many, many small ones
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and God multiplied those again
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and again and again.
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And then God gave many divine
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appointments on my travels where
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people heard about the sacrifice
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of the many, and they multiplied
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again and again that until soon
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we had enough to build that
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first campus in the northern
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province of Zambia, right out of
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the bush.
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And then several years later,
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the second campus.
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And this is only because God
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is able.
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Whatever He asks you to do,
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He always will supply the need
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for you to do.
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It's only when we are trying to
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attempt things that He's not
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asking us to do.
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[MIKE] Exactly.
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[DON] So that's what happened.
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So those are two disciple-making
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schools today and they're
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sending their students out into
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the public and actually are
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being used of God to disciple
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public school teachers, not just
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students, but public school
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teachers to Christ.
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[MIKE] So when we're talking
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about destroying the Devil's
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domain, just so no one gets the
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wrong idea here, we're not
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talking about Zambia is the
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Devil's domain or Africa is the
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Devil's domain or even Canada,
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anywhere in the world, because
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actually this world belongs to
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the Creator, right?
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And so when we talk about the
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Devil's domain, we're actually
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talking about an illusion,
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right, because the Devil
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is a liar.
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So when he captivates people's
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thoughts and they believe that
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lie that he is in control, then
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they kind of get his thoughts
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into their mind and they think
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by having control, by possessing
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things, that they
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themselves are...
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And so by getting Jesus's
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message and the truth
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into people's hearts,
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then we destroy that lie...
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[DON] Amen.
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[MIKE] ...and we we capture
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people for Jesus.
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And so now this message is being
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sent out by these two schools,
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and that message is starting to
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go throughout Zambia and the
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Ministry of Education learns
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about this.
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And now they want you to train
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200 early childhood school
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developers.
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How did you do that?
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[DON] Well, and they wanted,
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like, 20 from each of their ten
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provinces, all to come to their
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capital in Lusaka.
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And I'm thinking, yes,
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how do I do that?
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And because training is
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different than just speaking,
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I could speak to 200 educators,
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but that's not training.
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I wanted them to have hands on
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training.
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So I prayed and
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cried out to God.
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God always has solutions, even
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when we don't.
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And so He impressed me to go
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about several weeks early before
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this training and to actually
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gather godly people across
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Zambia, nationals who walk with
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God, talk with God, who I could
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give training to in advance so
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that they could be small group
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leaders over all these teachers.
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And if it wasn't for taking a
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wrong bus, I wouldn't have found
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some of the most precious ones.
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I never should have taken it,
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except that God had a divine
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appointment in it.
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And this is the way it happened.
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So I went there several weeks
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early and, again, I had almost
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no money on me.
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This was something that there
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was no budget for.
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I just-- God told me to go.
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So I went to the nation of
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Zambia with almost no cash
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and nothing for hotels, food or
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anything, but God said go.
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I hopped on to a bus
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only after a believer there
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said, "Now, Pastor Don,
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whatever you do,
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don't get separated from this
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bus way out in the middle of
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nowhere in Zambia, or else
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you could have trouble.
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So stay on this bus."
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I said, "No problem.
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I'll stay on this bus."
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I said, "Do they ever stop
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for a restroom?"
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"Oh, maybe in five hours or so
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or six hours."
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I thought, "Well, okay, I'll
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pray about that."
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Well, finally we did stop
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and I said, "Now you're gonna
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stay here for a little bit,
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right, because I'm gonna go find
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a restroom."
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Restroom is not what we think of
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here, but anyway, a restroom.
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And so he said, "Yes, we're
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right here."
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So I went off and found a little
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outhouse and there were many
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people selling papayas and
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everything and I was trying to
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wade through all the sellers.
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And I got back and
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the bus hadn't left.
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Oh, I was so relieved.
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I jumped up on the bus and the
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driver looked at me and he said,
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"What are you doing here?"
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I said, "I got back on my bus."
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He said, "No, you haven't gotten
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back on your bus."
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I said, "Yes, this is right
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where I left the bus."
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"Maybe so, sir, but you've never
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been on this bus before."
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And I said, "What's going on?"
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He said, "Your bus already left
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and you are now going on
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another bus."
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And I said, "Oh no.
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What do I do?"
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And I said, "Where are you
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headed?"
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He said, "I'm going to the same
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city you are."
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And I said, "But all my luggage
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is on the another bus!"
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And he said, "Well, look, you
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just go ahead and find a seat on
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this 'wrong bus' and we'll see
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if we can catch up with your
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luggage, but I can't
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promise it."
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So I said, "Okay..."
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And I was thinking, "Maybe God
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has a divine appointment
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for me."
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And I'm walking down the aisle
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and I sit down right behind two
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well-dressed men.
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And I asked the well-dressed
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men, I said...
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...I said,
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"Where are you going?"
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And they said, "Kasama."
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I said, "Well, that's where
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I'm going."
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And God impressed me to be bold.
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I said, "You know, I am here for
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a week or two praying
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for God to help me meet
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men and women across Zambia who
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love Jesus and who love children
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and who I can train to be
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disciple-makers to help me
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disciple 200 plus educators.
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They said, "That's very nice,"
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and then went back
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to their meeting.
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We kept on bumping along the
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road and then pretty soon
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they turned back to me and they
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said, "You know what?
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In Kasama, the city where you're
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going, there is a bishop
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who has...
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...who has a great love
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for children and would love to
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help you disciple...
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...disciple teachers from across
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this nation to disciple
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the kids.
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I said, "Fantastic,
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that's great!"
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And he has others, too, make a
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long story short, because I went
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on the wrong bus, God helped me
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recruit people from many
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different Christian backgrounds
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who shared a passion in
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discipling children for Jesus.
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>> So, Don, can you tell us, so
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now you've got enough people,
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you've recruited enough people,
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and you're gonna train these 200
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early education teachers, right?
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What happened at the training?
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>> The government made an
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official welcome
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to this teachers convention
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unlike any teachers convention
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the teachers of Zambia
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were used to.
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They were used to being gathered
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together to talk about grades
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and discipline and, you know,
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all the things that we do here,
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too, and achievement scores and
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all kinds of things like that.
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And...
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...they were in a shock when I
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stood up in front of them, 200
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plus educators, the finest of
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the fine across Zambia,
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precious people.
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And I said something like this,
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I said, "Welcome."
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I said, "I have been invited by
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your government
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to teach you
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about what it means to be a
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disciple of Jesus
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and a disciple-maker of our
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children in your government
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schools."
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There was no smiles, there was
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no happy reaction.
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And I said, "But first, how can
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we disciple the children
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of Zambia
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without having a revival?"
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So every morning we'll have a
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revival first.
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No smiles, no amens,
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there were many arms folded.
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In fairness, what would happen
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in Canada or the U.S.
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if government school teachers
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thinking that they were gonna
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come and have a normal teachers
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convention, were invited to a
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revival and discipling session.
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In fairness.
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[MIKE] A similar reaction.
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Yes.
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[DON] Yes!
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And so
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I remember standing up and
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inviting them to open their
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Bibles if they had one to
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Revelation 3 and sharing a
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powerful message about how Jesus
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is standing at the door and
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knocking and how He wants to do
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an in-time, work in our hearts
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to call us to Christ.
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And again, no amens.
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Sombre faces.
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But you know what?
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Many, many people were praying
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for every one of those teachers.
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I was praying for all those
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teachers.
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My team that had been recruited
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from across Zambia, they were
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praying.
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And when God's people pray,
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God does big things.
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Well, maybe a day later
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I got this report.
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This is what happened
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behind the closed door
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of one of the classrooms
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where 20 educators
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from one province
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were being trained.
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All of a sudden, one of their
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finest educators stood up
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and she held up her hands and
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she said, "I'm under conviction.
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I've heard their written Word of
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God preached," talking about the
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revival time, and she said,
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"My heart is not right."
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She said, "Some time ago,
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one of my dearest friends
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stole my husband
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and I have hated her
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with a passion
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and I've wanted to beat her up,
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I've wanted to destroy her in
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every way.
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Not just her reputation,
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I wanted to destroy her.
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And I am under conviction
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that I need to forgive her.
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Who will pray for me?"
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And everyone was stunned
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looking at her like,
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"What is she talking about?"
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They weren't used to hearing
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people say, "Who will pray for
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me?" in a teachers convention.
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And she said, "I am serious!"
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And she started having tears in
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her eyes, she said, "I need to
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know who will pray for me.
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I'm desperate to be free
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of this terrible
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relationship I've had
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with my old friend
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and I want to make things
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right with her."
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And no one moved.
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Finally, someone came up
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and prayed very,
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in a very uncomfortable way.
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And then another one came up and
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another one came up and pretty
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soon the woman was sobbing.
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She desperately wanted to be
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supported in doing what she
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didn't want to do, but what she
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was called by the Word of God
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to do.
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And finally
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the teacher said, "Okay, I think
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we've prayed enough."
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And so the educator,
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she lept up to her feet and she
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said, "I know what I
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need to do."
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She said, "I am leaving right
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now and I'm going to call up my
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friend that I haven't talked to
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except for screaming at her for
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a couple years, and I'm going to
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tell her, 'I am sorry for how
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I've treated you.'"
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And everybody said, "Wait, wait,
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wait, wait, wait, wait,
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wait, wait.
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Shouldn't you slow down a little
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bit and think about it?
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Because, you know, if you've had
00:23:51.06\00:23:51.96
such a terrible relationship
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with your old friend that
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stole your husband, maybe you
00:23:55.16\00:23:56.73
should just slow down."
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She said, "I'm under conviction
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by God, I need to move on this
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right now."
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And bless her heart, she did.
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She called up her old friend
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and her old friend was scared to
00:24:05.11\00:24:06.41
death to hear from her because
00:24:06.41\00:24:08.71
she had been threatened,
00:24:08.71\00:24:10.18
you know, against her life.
00:24:10.18\00:24:11.65
And to make a long story short,
00:24:11.65\00:24:14.08
she said, "I know that you stole
00:24:14.08\00:24:16.52
my husband, but I have
00:24:16.52\00:24:18.22
hated you.
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Will you forgive me for
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hating you?"
00:24:20.76\00:24:22.62
And the other woman started
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sobbing, the one that stole her
00:24:24.13\00:24:25.63
husband started sobbing.
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And some days later,
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that woman who had stolen her
00:24:30.63\00:24:31.93
husband came to their house
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knocking at the door.
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And the educator's little girl
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said, "Mommy, Mommy, that woman
00:24:37.34\00:24:39.41
that stole Daddy is coming to
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our house."
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And the little girl dove under
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the bed and closed her door
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because she just knew that
00:24:44.45\00:24:45.65
something terrible was
00:24:45.65\00:24:46.78
gonna happen.
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And after a little while,
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she heard laughter
00:24:49.78\00:24:51.62
and happy voices.
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And she came out, she said,
00:24:52.82\00:24:53.96
"Mommy, how can you
00:24:53.96\00:24:55.96
receive this friend of yours
00:24:55.96\00:24:57.63
who stole Daddy?"
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And she said, "Because of Jesus,
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because of Jesus."
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That's what made the difference.
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And in the same week,
00:25:05.47\00:25:08.14
a mighty man
00:25:08.14\00:25:09.77
stood up in another province
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and he said, "You know, during
00:25:11.74\00:25:13.74
this revival, God is challenging
00:25:13.74\00:25:15.64
me about how I am treating my
00:25:15.64\00:25:17.25
grown son.
00:25:17.25\00:25:18.35
Years ago, he wronged me and I
00:25:18.35\00:25:21.05
have basically disowned him
00:25:21.05\00:25:22.75
and I told them I never want to
00:25:22.75\00:25:23.85
see his face again, I'll never
00:25:23.85\00:25:25.09
talk to him again.
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And now my grown son and his
00:25:26.25\00:25:28.39
wife have their child and I've
00:25:28.39\00:25:29.99
never seen my grandchild
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and I realize
00:25:31.69\00:25:33.06
that my bitter heart
00:25:33.06\00:25:35.66
has pushed him away
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and I need to ask him
00:25:37.60\00:25:38.57
for forgiveness.
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Who will pray for me?"
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And again, no one wanted to pray
00:25:40.50\00:25:42.17
because they were so shocked
00:25:42.17\00:25:43.30
that this very renowned educator
00:25:43.30\00:25:45.64
would publicly say, "I have
00:25:45.64\00:25:47.54
wronged my son."
00:25:47.54\00:25:49.84
And finally they prayed for him
00:25:49.84\00:25:52.35
like the first story,
00:25:52.35\00:25:53.82
and they prayed over him.
00:25:53.82\00:25:56.05
He came under conviction
00:25:56.05\00:25:57.29
to call his son.
00:25:57.29\00:25:58.22
He called his son right up
00:25:58.22\00:26:00.09
and his son was shocked.
00:26:00.09\00:26:01.89
"Father, you're not supposed to
00:26:01.89\00:26:03.79
call me, I am the one that
00:26:03.79\00:26:05.26
wronged you and the family."
00:26:05.26\00:26:06.86
"Son," he said and started
00:26:07.76\00:26:09.03
crying on the phone.
00:26:09.03\00:26:10.30
He said, "But I have wronged you
00:26:10.30\00:26:11.90
by pushing you away.
00:26:11.90\00:26:13.23
No matter what you have done,
00:26:13.23\00:26:14.24
I should have never pushed
00:26:14.24\00:26:15.17
you away.
00:26:15.17\00:26:15.87
I forgive you."
00:26:15.87\00:26:16.84
And his son started sobbing.
00:26:16.84\00:26:18.57
And that same night,
00:26:18.57\00:26:20.78
three generations came together
00:26:20.78\00:26:23.01
because of Jesus.
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>> You know, we've come to the
00:26:25.41\00:26:26.55
end of our time, but I wonder if
00:26:26.55\00:26:27.88
I could ask you to pray, Don.
00:26:27.88\00:26:29.55
There are probably many people
00:26:29.55\00:26:31.42
who are listening to this, who
00:26:31.42\00:26:32.75
are viewing this that are
00:26:32.75\00:26:33.82
saying, "I need that kind of
00:26:33.82\00:26:35.82
prayer, I need that kind of
00:26:35.82\00:26:37.09
prayer for my heart to forgive."
00:26:37.09\00:26:39.26
And so let's do that right now.
00:26:40.16\00:26:41.80
>> Okay.
00:26:41.80\00:26:42.43
Let's pray.
00:26:42.43\00:26:43.80
Dear Father in heaven,
00:26:43.80\00:26:45.67
You have the power and the
00:26:45.67\00:26:47.74
ability to bring any one of us,
00:26:47.74\00:26:50.24
if we're willing,
00:26:50.24\00:26:51.57
to a revival with Jesus
00:26:51.57\00:26:54.14
and to help us forgive
00:26:54.14\00:26:56.54
people that are almost
00:26:56.54\00:26:58.08
impossible to forgive.
00:26:58.08\00:27:00.28
Please bless us, each one of us
00:27:01.02\00:27:03.25
right now, to have the heart of
00:27:03.25\00:27:05.72
Jesus, to forgive
00:27:05.72\00:27:08.06
even the most unforgivable
00:27:08.06\00:27:09.76
person.
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In Jesus' name, amen.
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[MIKE & RENÉ] Amen.
00:27:11.76\00:27:12.99
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by sight alone.
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>> Before you go, we would like
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to thank all of you who have
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supported the ministry of It Is
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Written Canada with your prayers
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and financial contributions.
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Without your support, this
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television ministry could not
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have reached so many people for
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so many decades.
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>> Yes, thank you.
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And we would also like to invite
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you to follow us on Instagram
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and Facebook and subscribe to
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our YouTube channel and also
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listen to our podcasts.
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And if you go to our website,
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you can see our latest programs.
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>> You, too, can experience the
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fullness of life that is found
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in the words of Jesus
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when He said...
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