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Thank you for joining us.
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>> A little book called Steps to
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Christ contains this famous
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quote...
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[MIKE] So this is hand-to-hand
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combat, the warfare
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against self.
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You are fighting against you.
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So who is gonna win?
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You or you?
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Or who is going to lose?
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You or you?
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>> So who's going to win and
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who's going to lose?
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Your true self
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or your false self?
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>> When you wake up, you put on
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boxing gloves every single
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morning and you come out
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swinging and that's what you do
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whenever you truly pray.
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You are fighting hand-to-hand
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combat.
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Galatians 2, verse 20 speaks
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about the true eye and the
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false eye.
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>> Unfortunately, we have been
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infected with a deadly virus
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called sin, so we have to battle
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against our false self, the one
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who loves sin and selfishness.
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Look what the apostle Paul
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writes...
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>> So I, the false I, the I who
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is enslaved to sin and
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selfishness, that I is crucified
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with Christ.
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Nevertheless, Paul says I, the
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true I, live.
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This is who I was created to be.
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The free I.
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I live, yet not I, not the false
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I, but Christ lives in me, the
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true I.
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He lives in me and the life
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which I now live in the flesh I
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live by the faith of the Son of
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God who loved me and gave
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Himself for me.
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>> The Bible says...
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Which tells us that a rebel is a
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person who is under a wicked
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spell, resisting God, thinking
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selfish and self-centered
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thoughts like Satan,
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the first rebel.
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>> So to state that positively,
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instead of living under an evil
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spell, when you live at peace
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with God, you put your faith
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in God.
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Jesus put it this way...
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>> Every rebel is really under a
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deceptive spell where he thinks
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he's free, but he's really a
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slave of sin and selfishness.
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>> Sin and selfishness
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destroy you.
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>> Our special guest on It Is
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Written Canada today is Shaun
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Young, who became so overwhelmed
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and almost defeated in the
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greatest battle that was ever
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fought that he almost completely
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lost his mind.
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>> In a moment, you will hear
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Shaun himself tell you how he
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was entirely unable to silence
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that voice of rebellion without
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divine help.
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>> Welcome to It Is Written
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Canada.
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Thank you for joining us.
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It has been said that the only
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security for any soul is right
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thinking.
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As a man thinketh in his heart,
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so is he.
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>> Today, our special guest is
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Pastor Shaun Young, whose
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thoughts had been wearing a rut
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in the wrong direction until he
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decided to get off that old path
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and change directions.
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>> Shaun, welcome to It Is
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Written Canada.
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>> Thank you both for having me.
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>> So, Pastor Shaun, let's start
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at the beginning.
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Tell us a little bit about
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yourself, about your family and
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about your current career.
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>> Well, I'm originally from
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Montreal, Quebec, where I met my
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wife and we have three children
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and we now live in Winnipeg,
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Manitoba.
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I am a chaplain and my wife is a
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high school teacher.
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[RENÉ] So, Pastor Shaun,
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something happened at about the
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age of 11 or 12
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that was a defining moment
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in your life.
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You don't have to tell us all
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the details about it, but can
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you tell us how that moment
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changed you and how it
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affected you?
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>> Well, basically, something
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happened when I was about 11 or
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around 11 or 12, and I just
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tucked that away.
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I just forgot about it,
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moved on.
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And around age 16, what happened
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was one night it just came back
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to my memory and I felt the
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worst guilt I ever felt
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in my life.
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And that just changed my whole
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direction at the moment, at age
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16, I was really into gang
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activity.
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I wanted to be a gangster.
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The people that I was around,
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they were into some sort of gang
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activity or selling drugs and
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doing different things and that
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was where I wanted to go.
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But when that memory came back,
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it changed the direction of my
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life and I started to act
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different, I started to change
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the way I dressed and went to
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church and got, I got baptized.
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>> So you started learning new
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things as well.
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You were reading the Bible
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a lot?
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[SHAUN] Yeah, I was reading
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my Bible.
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>> And then someone came to you
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with a bit of a challenge.
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>> Yeah, it's funny.
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It's like I just freshly got
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baptized, starting to read my
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Bible and going in a new
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direction and here comes
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this guy.
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He is from a church called
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Seventh-day Adventist, and he's
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like, "Do you know that Saturday
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is the Sabbath?"
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I'm like, "What?"
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I grew up, I went to church on
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Sunday all my life, so it was a
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natural thing for a Sunday to
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be, you know, that's the day of
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worship.
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But he challenged me and I
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actually started studying my
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Bible more proficiently to prove
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him wrong.
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But in the end, God said, "No,
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he's right."
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>> So that led you to further
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Bible studies?
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>> Yeah.
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My wife knew some individuals
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from the Seventh-day Adventist
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Church and eventually they came
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and studied with us and we later
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went and got baptized.
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>> So you had that conviction
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and then the Holy Spirit started
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speaking to you and giving you a
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stronger conviction.
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>> All right, so nobody was
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telling me this, but as I'm
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reading my Bible, a conviction
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to witness to people started to
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become stronger and stronger in
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my mind and in my heart.
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And for me, growing up around
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drug dealers and all these
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people and Montreal is a pretty
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dangerous place.
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They have prostitutes, they have
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strip clubs.
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The thoughts in my mind, it's
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like, I have to speak to these
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individuals?
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I am not gonna do that.
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That is too scary, that is-- no,
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I'm not gonna do it.
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These people are gonna kill me.
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So one night I said, "I'm not
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gonna do it," and I said,
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"I quit."
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>> And you quit?
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>> I quit.
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This was after getting baptized.
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It was not maybe three months in
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from getting baptized, four
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months, I don't remember the
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exact time, but it was very
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early from getting baptized.
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I said, "Lord, I can't do this."
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I said, "I quit," and that
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was it.
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>> Shortly after you stifled
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those convictions and you
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refused to listen to the Holy
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Spirit telling you and prompting
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you to witness and you were too
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afraid, you said, "No, I'm not
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doing that."
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What happened?
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>> Shortly after that, there was
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a moment right after I said,
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"I quit.
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I'm not gonna do this
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anymore..."
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...there was a moment where I
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was feeling very flustered and I
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took a car ride with my older
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brother.
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And while in that car ride, I
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heard something in my head.
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It's like time stopped and I
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heard the words uttered, "You
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are gonna die the worst possible
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death because you showed
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no mercy."
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And I was wondering why am I
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feeling this?
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Why am I going through this
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moment at this time?
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And shortly after that, I was
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plagued in my mind.
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It's like a squirrel running on
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a on a treadmill, just going in
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circles.
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Why did I hear this?
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“You're gonna to die the worst
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possible death.”
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And this didn't just last days,
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but weeks and months and it just
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kept on going in my mind.
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I wasn't the same until
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eventually this led to a mental
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break and I ended up in a
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psychiatric ward.
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>> So how did your mother, how
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did your family relate to that?
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>> So what happened was one day
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my mom came to visit me at the
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hospital and she's like, "Don't
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take the meds," because she
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knows, she's worked at a
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hospital before like this and
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she knows what has happened in
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the past to those who kept
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taking those medication.
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So she's telling me, "Don't take
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the medication, don't take the
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medication."
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And while she's there one day
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visiting me, a letter goes home
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and my sister gets the letter
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and the letter is from the
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hospital.
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So she calls my mom and says,
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"Mom, there's a letter that came
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from the hospital."
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So my mom being at the hospital,
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she's like, "What is this letter
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all about?"
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And they said, "Oh, nothing to
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worry about, nothing at all."
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She goes home, it's a Thursday
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afternoon, she goes home, she
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reads the letter and basically
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what this letter is for, it's
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for a court date the next day to
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take her rights away from me.
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She gets up the morning, she
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goes on her knees, she doesn't
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have a lawyer, she doesn't have
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anything, she just goes on her
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knees and she prays.
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My mom was and is a prayer
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warrior, and by the time she's
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done, I'm out of there.
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Two weeks I was in there, the
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longest two weeks of my life.
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But after the court date I was
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out of the hospital, but I was
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still out of my mind.
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>> So, Pastor Shaun, how did you
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get into your right mind then?
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>> Okay, so what happened was I
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was sent to Trinidad and Tobago.
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That was part of me coming out
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there, coming out of the
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hospital.
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So I was in Trinidad Tobago for
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two months.
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And while I was there, I was
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doing some very strange things.
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I said I was still in my, not in
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my right mind and...
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...my aunt one day she came to
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me, she's like, "I took my
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vacation so that you can be okay
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and you're not."
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And she's crying, she just
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started crying.
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And something with those tears
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broke my heart.
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And that for me, I don't know
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what it was about that moment,
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but that changed everything and
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I slowly went back into my
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right mind.
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>> So that's when you were able
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to contact your, was your
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girlfriend and then she became
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your wife, you got married.
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Things are going on a good path
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now and then the Holy Spirit was
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speaking to you and saying,
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"Get a certain book."
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>> What happened was there was
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this book called Bible Readings
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for the Home, and someone gave
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this random book to my wife.
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And back in early, I read
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through this book and I was
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like, "There's some strange
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doctrine in this.
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I don't think I should read
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this book."
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And I just packed it away and I
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thought that was the end of
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this book.
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And over time we traveled and we
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moved different places and this
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book kept trailing us.
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We'll pack it, we'll unpack it,
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we'll pack it, unpack it and
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after several years, the Holy
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Spirit said, "Go find this
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book."
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And what happened was I was
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working on the Sabbath at this
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time and I went and find that
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big book, it's a very thick
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book, and I was like, I don't
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like reading these thick books,
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but when the Holy Spirit
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convicts, you do what the Holy
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Spirit says.
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So I started reading through
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this thick book, and when it
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came to the issue of the
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Sabbath, because that's what
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brought me into the Adventist
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Church in the first place, when
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it reached that place, I had
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some decisions to make.
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I'm working on the Sabbath and
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it's telling us, the book is
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saying how to keep the Sabbath
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and I started becoming
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convicted.
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Do I continue to work on the
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Sabbath or do I make a decision
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for Christ?
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And I told my wife, "I am going
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to leave my job.
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I'm gonna just tell my boss I'm
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not gonna work anymore, I'm
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gonna leave."
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And I chickened out.
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To be honest, I chickened out.
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And then I prayed and I prayed
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and I prayed and I said, "I'm
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gonna do it.
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I'm gonna tell my boss if they
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don't give me the Sabbath off,
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I'm quitting."
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I told my boss I'm leaving
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the job.
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I didn't have any job to go to
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at that moment.
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I said, "I'm leaving the job."
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And when I finally decided that
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I'm gonna leave the job, one
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week later, the job that I
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applied for earlier finally
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opens up.
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And ever since then, I never had
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to work on the Sabbath again.
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What led me to become a pastor
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was even though I grew up in
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Montreal, one day my wife and I
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were, and a friend, were
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discussing, well, where can we
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basically go to bring Christian
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education for our children?
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It was me more so and a friend,
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and then me and my wife were
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discussing after, where should
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we move?
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And both places collided
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basically.
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We end up moving to Alberta.
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For me was basically I wanted my
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kids to have Christian education
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and we end up moving to Alberta
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and they got Christian
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education, but God also found a
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way for me and my wife to go to
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school in Alberta.
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And while we were in Alberta,
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one day at church, this
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gentleman, he's up there, he's
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sharing his testimony and he's,
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he was a computer technician and
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he says...
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...he was a computer technician,
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but God led him to ministry.
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And at the end of his, at the
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end, he finished preaching, he
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said, "Whatever God tells you to
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do, you should do it."
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And I'm like, "Lord, what do you
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want me to do?"
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And when I said that, the first
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thing that I heard in my mind
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was, "Be a pastor."
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And I was like, "Okay, be a
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pastor?
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If you want me to be a pastor,
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then have somebody tell me
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without me saying anything."
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So I said that and I left it
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as that.
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Then I went down in the church
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basement where I met an old
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friend from Calgary and I was
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speaking to her and I was
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sharing an experience I had
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with God.
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And at the end of that
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conversation, the first words
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that came out of her mouth was,
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"You know what?
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You should be a pastor."
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And I was like [gasps]
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blown away.
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God answered so quickly?
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So after that experience, other
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people started coming up to me
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and saying the same thing, "You
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should be a pastor."
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And in my second year,
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because I went into education
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and my wife was also in
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education, in my second year of
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education, after so many people
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keep on pouring into me saying I
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should switch, I switched from
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education to theology.
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Yeah.
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So right idea, wrong classroom.
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Yeah.
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>> So you you became a pastor.
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Then how did you relate to this
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calling, this greatest fear that
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you had, of witnessing to
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others?
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>> So I know witnessing comes
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with its challenges, but how I
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deal with it is that I have to
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allow my-- the courage to
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rise up and push down my fears.
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I can't let my fears of speaking
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to people and witnessing get the
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best of me.
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That's what happened when I was
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younger and when God was saying
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to witness, I allowed my fears
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to get the best of me to the
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point where it's like,
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"No, I'm done."
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And now I have to allow the
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courage that God has given me to
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push me, compel me, and push me
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forward to preach the Gospel.
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>> And you do it.
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>> By God's grace.
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>> Were you able to go back to
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the people in Montreal then
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and share?
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>> Yeah, the funny thing is the
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same people that I was afraid to
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witness to, the drug dealers,
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even some prostitutes, even some
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people who lived that lifestyle,
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it's the same people I'm able to
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speak to and share my testimony
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with, even right now.
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>> And they didn't kill you.
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>> They didn't kill me.
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I'm still here sharing the
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story.
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Yeah, I lived to tell the story,
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so...
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>> So how do you understand that
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those words that kept, like you
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said, the squirrel on a wheel
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going in your mind telling you
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you're going to die the worst
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possible death because you did
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not show any mercy.
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>> Now, when I look at those
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words, I understand that it was
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not from God, it was a direct
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attack from the enemy.
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And how I quantify this is that
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God was preparing my life to
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meet and minister to individuals
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so that they don't have to die
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the worst possible death which
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is basically a death in a
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Christless grave.
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God was leading me on this
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journey to become a pastor, to
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share that message.
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But at the same time, Satan, he
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intercepted me and was making me
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feel that I am gonna die the
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worst possible death and God
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showed me that me dying to self
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is not the worst possible death
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but the best possible death.
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And in my fears, I wasn't
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allowing myself to die that best
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possible death, death to self.
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I was so fearful, so terrified
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that I was only allowing my
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fears and what Satan pumped into
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my brain to direct me.
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But God continued to work and
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minister to me until I was able
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to stand up and push Satan
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aside.
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And now my job, my whole duty,
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is to rescue people from
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Christless graves, the worst
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possible death you can
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experience.
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>> So Pastor Shaun, how often do
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we have to die this death
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to self?
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>> The crazy thing about it is
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that it's a daily thing.
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It's sometimes it's even a
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moment by moment thing.
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And when we die, we allow others
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to live.
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So when we lay down selfishness,
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when it's not our will, but the
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Lord's will, others get to live
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through that.
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So I had to learn this and I'm
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still learning this day by day
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and moment by moment to
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surrender and allow the Lord to
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lead and guide me moment by
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moment.
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Yeah.
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So...
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>> So where do you find that
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confidence to go forward?
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How do you silence those
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negative voices inside?
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>> What I do, and this is
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something I want to share with
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everybody, there's a beautiful
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story, it's found in Mark
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chapter 5, Jesus comes and He
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meets this man who is crying and
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cutting himself.
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Nobody can tame him, he's just
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out of control.
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What we will call now mental
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health, but he is extreme mental
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health.
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And what happens, what's my
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favorite part in this whole
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story is verse 6, because after
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he's crying, cutting himself,
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nobody can tame him, He sees
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Jesus coming and what he does is
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so profound, I would like
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everyone to take note of this.
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He runs to Jesus' feet and he
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begins to worship Him and when
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he worships Him, the demons
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take over.
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Now, why that's a blessing is
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that he's at Jesus's feet.
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It doesn't matter if 10,000
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demons take over, a million
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demons take over, because he is
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now at Jesus's feet.
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And what I learned from this is
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when I start getting any type of
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spiritual attacks, instead of
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trying to fight and battle it on
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my own, I begin to pray in that
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moment, "Lord, you see, what is
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happening.
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Please help me through this
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moment.
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Please guide me.
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Please protect me."
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And I just have that
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conversation, me and Jesus
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having that conversation, and in
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that moment, all I have to do is
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wait till the storm passes.
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But now God is in control, Jesus
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is in control.
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I don't have to worry and I just
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go through that.
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So any time I have that mental
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battle, it's not me alone.
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Right away I intercept Jesus.
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I used to watch WWF and what
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happens is a man is getting beat
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up and his partner is waiting to
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be tagged in, he's waiting in a
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corner just to be tagged in.
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And the minute he tags in his
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partner, it's over because his
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partner was there waiting, ready
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to jump into the battle and this
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has been my saving grace time
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and time again.
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When I tag in Jesus right away,
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He begins to work on the case.
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So as you're, as others are
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going through, tag in Jesus, do
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not waste time.
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Read that story, Mark chapter 5,
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read it over and over.
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And at the end of that story,
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the beautiful part, the man that
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was crying and cutting himself
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is now clothed and in his right
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mind, just like I'm here sitting
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before you clothed, in my
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right mind.
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>> Were there are certain
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things, just final questions, at
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times that kind of tripped you
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up, like music or movies or
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things like that?
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I know you talked to me
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about that.
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[SHAUN] Yeah, I had moments
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where those things greatly
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affected my mind, music
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and movies.
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But what happened was through a
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friend, a mother of a friend,
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through them, I learned Psalms
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91 and I got some guidance from
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a friend that God, or two
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friends, and-- but when I
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learned Psalms 91, that changed
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the game, that helped me to
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learn to dwell in the secret
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place of the Most High and I
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started gathering verses.
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My mind was under such attack at
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times that I had to start
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gathering verses and memorize
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these scriptures to fortify
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my mind.
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And that helped me greatly on
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this journey that I'm now, I'm
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still walking with the Lord, but
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that changed, Psalms 91,
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learning to dwell in the secret
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place of the Most High and
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coupled with Mark chapter 5, the
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demoniac story, get to Jesus
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right away.
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Those two things solidified.
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Plus the support from those, my
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wife, those God sent on my
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journey to help me, my mom,
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my sister.
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So much people.
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My pastor, so much, my pastor at
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the time, Pastor O'Neal Madden,
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all these people helped me
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on my journey.
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>> Pastor Shaun, thank you so
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much for sharing your story
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with us.
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We've come to the end of our
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time together, but before we go,
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I wonder if you could pray for
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our viewers.
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Perhaps there's someone watching
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who is struggling with these
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negative thoughts that are just
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going over and over in their
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minds, or they don't know what
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God's will is for their lives.
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So please, could you pray
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for them?
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>> Let us pray.
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Heavenly Father, I'm first
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thanking You for rescuing me.
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And for those who are struggling
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out there, for that one person
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that is struggling with those
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demonic thoughts, I pray that
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You will rescue them the same
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way that You have rescued me and
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set them on their journey.
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Help them to learn the
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principles that I have learned,
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how to dwell in the secret
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place of the Most High, and how
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to get to Jesus as soon as
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possible.
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Help them to remember to read
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Mark chapter 5 and see how the
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demoniac found hope and grace at
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the feet of Jesus.
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Be with each and every one of us
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and all those that hear this
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message.
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Transform their lives and set
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them on their way.
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In Jesus' name, we pray, amen.
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>> Pastor Shaun Young, thank you
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so much for joining us on It Is
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Written Canada.
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>> It was a pleasure to be here.
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>> Friends, you, too, can
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[MIKE] Friends, we recommend to
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you this book, The Bible, where
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it is recorded that Jesus found
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His confidence to overcome
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temptation through the Word of
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His Father when He declared...
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