>> Welcome to It Is Written 00:00:01.13\00:00:02.53 Canada. 00:00:02.53\00:00:03.33 Thank you for joining us. 00:00:03.33\00:00:05.40 Paulie Rogers lives in the 00:00:05.40\00:00:07.30 beautiful but cold 00:00:07.30\00:00:08.80 northern-central region of 00:00:08.80\00:00:10.27 Saskatchewan, Canada, where 00:00:10.27\00:00:12.61 rolling hills, spruce forests, 00:00:12.61\00:00:14.78 and an abundant number of lakes 00:00:14.78\00:00:17.08 fill the countryside. 00:00:17.08\00:00:18.85 [MIKE] She and Kenny, her 00:00:18.85\00:00:20.18 husband of 37 years, run a large 00:00:20.18\00:00:23.28 hay farm in the summer and 00:00:23.28\00:00:25.19 bush clear in the winter. 00:00:25.19\00:00:26.62 Yes, Paulie runs heavy equipment 00:00:26.62\00:00:29.22 as well. 00:00:29.22\00:00:30.19 [RENÉ] They have raised two 00:00:30.73\00:00:32.23 remarkable children who are both 00:00:32.23\00:00:34.73 married with families of their 00:00:34.73\00:00:36.10 own, giving them eight 00:00:36.10\00:00:38.20 grandchildren. 00:00:38.20\00:00:39.77 [MIKE] She has spent over 25 00:00:39.77\00:00:42.27 years as a play write and 00:00:42.27\00:00:43.94 director for a local community 00:00:43.94\00:00:45.64 theatre, but when God called her 00:00:45.64\00:00:48.18 to pull away from secular 00:00:48.18\00:00:49.88 theatre to write for Him and 00:00:49.88\00:00:51.95 only for Him, Paulie learned 00:00:51.95\00:00:54.28 what it truly means to walk in 00:00:54.28\00:00:56.58 the steps of Jesus for an 00:00:56.58\00:00:58.32 incredible satisfying journey of 00:00:58.32\00:01:00.42 faith, hope, and personal 00:01:00.42\00:01:02.52 acceptance. 00:01:02.52\00:01:03.56 >> Paulie's passion is sharing a 00:01:03.56\00:01:05.83 personable Jesus through 00:01:05.83\00:01:07.66 story-telling, devotions, and 00:01:07.66\00:01:09.83 speaking engagements. 00:01:09.83\00:01:11.77 When Paulie and Kenny started 00:01:11.77\00:01:13.74 renovating and remodelling 00:01:13.74\00:01:16.24 their old Victorian farmhouse, 00:01:16.24\00:01:18.47 it inspired her to write a book 00:01:18.47\00:01:20.61 called My House Renovated One 00:01:20.61\00:01:23.61 Room at a Time. 00:01:23.61\00:01:25.55 [MIKE] It is a six-week Bible 00:01:25.55\00:01:27.48 study to discover what it means 00:01:27.48\00:01:30.09 to be remodelled in Christ as we 00:01:30.09\00:01:32.85 experience Him in every aspect 00:01:32.85\00:01:34.99 of our lives. 00:01:34.99\00:01:36.02 In a moment, you will meet 00:01:36.02\00:01:37.99 Paulie and hear her incredibly 00:01:37.99\00:01:40.53 inspirational story. 00:01:40.53\00:01:42.43 >> Mike, let's go see Paulie. 00:01:43.03\00:01:44.63 >> Let's do that. 00:01:44.63\00:01:45.73 ¤¤ 00:01:57.41\00:02:34.18 >> Welcome back to It Is Written 00:02:39.59\00:02:40.96 Canada. 00:02:40.96\00:02:41.42 Thank you for joining us. 00:02:41.59\00:02:42.62 >> In Revelation 3, verse 20, 00:02:43.29\00:02:45.59 Jesus tells us He's standing at 00:02:45.59\00:02:47.83 the door of our heart, knocking 00:02:47.83\00:02:50.03 for entrance. 00:02:50.03\00:02:51.10 It's up to us whether we want to 00:02:51.60\00:02:53.44 let Him in, but the best part of 00:02:53.44\00:02:56.10 letting Him in is the fellowship 00:02:56.10\00:02:58.54 we will experience with our 00:02:58.54\00:03:00.31 loving Saviour. 00:03:00.31\00:03:01.51 >> Our special guest, Paulie 00:03:01.78\00:03:03.01 Rogers, has let Jesus in, not 00:03:03.01\00:03:05.05 only to her heart, but her home 00:03:05.05\00:03:07.58 as well. 00:03:07.58\00:03:08.45 In fact, He showed Himself to 00:03:08.45\00:03:10.39 her in every remodelled room of 00:03:10.39\00:03:13.15 her old Victorian farmhouse. 00:03:13.15\00:03:15.46 >> This is Paulie Rogers?ory 00:03:15.46\00:03:17.19 of renovating and remodelling 00:03:17.19\00:03:19.49 her family's old Victorian 00:03:19.49\00:03:21.43 farmhouse and how that 00:03:21.43\00:03:23.37 experience led to her opening 00:03:23.37\00:03:25.77 her heart to Jesus, remodelling 00:03:25.77\00:03:28.50 every room of her life. 00:03:28.50\00:03:31.17 Paulie, thank you for joining us 00:03:31.94\00:03:33.68 on It Is Written Canada. 00:03:33.68\00:03:35.74 >> Thank you. 00:03:36.14\00:03:36.91 It is my pleasure to be with you 00:03:36.91\00:03:38.65 guys and welcome to my house 00:03:38.65\00:03:41.85 here in Saskatchewan. 00:03:41.85\00:03:43.52 >> Paulie, you know, I've always 00:03:44.62\00:03:46.42 been fascinated with the 00:03:46.42\00:03:48.46 Victorian era. 00:03:48.46\00:03:50.09 The corsets and the full-length 00:03:50.66\00:03:53.60 skirts over layers and layers of 00:03:53.60\00:03:56.13 petticoats, with the matching 00:03:56.13\00:03:58.23 hats that make them look so 00:03:58.23\00:03:59.87 elegant, and the tea sets with 00:03:59.87\00:04:02.44 the fine bone China and the 00:04:02.44\00:04:04.51 pretty little delicate flowers. 00:04:04.51\00:04:06.98 So I cannot wait to hear about 00:04:06.98\00:04:09.81 your old Victorian farmhouse. 00:04:09.81\00:04:12.61 >> And I'm excited to share with 00:04:13.18\00:04:14.75 you my old Victorian farmhouse. 00:04:14.75\00:04:17.89 I often ask people if they would 00:04:18.55\00:04:21.36 prefer to live in an old 00:04:21.36\00:04:24.36 character house or a newly 00:04:24.36\00:04:26.93 built house. 00:04:26.93\00:04:28.00 Because this was the question 00:04:28.00\00:04:30.03 that my husband asked me minutes 00:04:30.03\00:04:33.13 after I said yes to his marriage 00:04:33.13\00:04:35.84 proposal. 00:04:35.84\00:04:36.97 Well, actually what he asked me 00:04:37.54\00:04:39.71 was, "Would you consider being a 00:04:39.71\00:04:43.11 partner with me in this farm I'm 00:04:43.11\00:04:45.05 looking at to buy?" 00:04:45.05\00:04:46.58 But it was a marriage proposal. 00:04:47.38\00:04:49.72 "The old character house, of 00:04:49.72\00:04:51.59 course!" I squealed with delight 00:04:51.59\00:04:54.06 as he let out a sigh of relief. 00:04:54.06\00:04:56.62 I knew why he was asking me this 00:04:57.39\00:04:59.23 question, because when I had 00:04:59.23\00:05:01.63 visited him, we had driven past 00:05:01.63\00:05:04.13 this house. 00:05:04.13\00:05:05.50 And as we did, and I took in its 00:05:06.77\00:05:10.87 structure, I had fallen in love 00:05:10.87\00:05:13.38 with it already because I, too, 00:05:13.38\00:05:16.64 like the old Victorian era. 00:05:16.64\00:05:19.71 >> What was it like when you 00:05:19.71\00:05:20.75 first came here, when you first 00:05:20.75\00:05:21.92 saw it. 00:05:21.92\00:05:22.68 I mean, it's been renovated. 00:05:22.68\00:05:24.49 [PAULIE] It was in bad need of 00:05:25.12\00:05:27.12 repair. [laughs] 00:05:27.12\00:05:28.69 It-- but, you know, what I saw 00:05:29.16\00:05:33.13 was the intricately carved wood 00:05:33.13\00:05:36.36 front door, the spindles on the 00:05:36.36\00:05:39.20 front porch, the gables were 00:05:39.20\00:05:42.60 romantic to me, that jutted out 00:05:42.60\00:05:44.84 of the roof. 00:05:44.84\00:05:47.08 And, you know, it was just so 00:05:48.08\00:05:50.61 special to me. 00:05:50.61\00:05:51.71 But to my husband... 00:05:52.68\00:05:54.05 ...he saw the rot. 00:05:55.22\00:05:57.45 The porch was about to fall off 00:05:58.02\00:06:00.26 the front, the door was so 00:06:00.26\00:06:02.69 warped you could hardly get it 00:06:02.69\00:06:04.16 shut, the window frames were 00:06:04.16\00:06:07.50 rotted and, you know, there was 00:06:07.50\00:06:10.63 a lot of things going on in 00:06:10.63\00:06:11.87 this house. 00:06:11.87\00:06:12.87 We had bats in the attic. 00:06:12.87\00:06:14.60 We had a sewer, old wood sewer 00:06:15.87\00:06:20.78 crib that collapsed on us so we 00:06:20.78\00:06:23.88 had a lot of sewer backup. 00:06:23.88\00:06:25.78 We had... 00:06:27.28\00:06:28.65 ...a huge infestation of mice. 00:06:30.09\00:06:33.36 We couldn't keep them out. 00:06:34.49\00:06:36.69 I shoved steel wool into every 00:06:36.69\00:06:38.33 little nook and cranny that I 00:06:38.33\00:06:39.83 could find, but they just kept 00:06:39.83\00:06:42.03 coming. 00:06:42.03\00:06:43.06 >> Paulie, how on earth did you 00:06:44.23\00:06:46.67 live in those circumstances? 00:06:46.67\00:06:50.07 >> I put on bravery. [laughs] 00:06:50.54\00:06:53.01 But you know, I never ran 00:06:54.28\00:06:56.38 in fear. 00:06:56.38\00:06:57.38 I bravely... 00:06:57.38\00:06:59.25 ...took it on like a warrior, 00:07:00.95\00:07:02.58 determined to win the battle at 00:07:02.58\00:07:05.42 hand because this was our house, 00:07:05.42\00:07:08.16 this was our home. 00:07:08.16\00:07:09.56 >> So it was a pretty old home, 00:07:09.86\00:07:11.93 how long did it take you to do 00:07:11.93\00:07:13.56 all of these renovations? 00:07:13.56\00:07:15.16 >> We lived in this house for 00:07:15.53\00:07:17.47 30 years. 00:07:17.47\00:07:19.10 It was like stepping back in 00:07:19.63\00:07:21.20 time with all its little quirks 00:07:21.20\00:07:24.24 and all its problems, but we 00:07:25.44\00:07:28.21 couldn't afford to fix it up. 00:07:28.21\00:07:30.25 You know, my husband warned me 00:07:30.25\00:07:31.35 that, right from the very 00:07:31.35\00:07:32.58 beginning, that, you know, the 00:07:32.58\00:07:35.98 farm was gonna be tough and it 00:07:35.98\00:07:38.72 would take a lot to get 00:07:38.72\00:07:41.82 established and get going. 00:07:41.82\00:07:43.49 And so we just lived in it 00:07:43.49\00:07:46.33 as it was. 00:07:46.33\00:07:47.50 We had an old black rotary phone 00:07:47.50\00:07:49.46 on the wall with a party line. 00:07:49.46\00:07:51.90 And, you know, when it would 00:07:52.80\00:07:54.50 ring, you'd have to listen to 00:07:54.50\00:07:56.87 how many rings it took to know 00:07:56.87\00:07:58.71 if it was for you or for one of 00:07:58.71\00:08:00.64 the neighbours. 00:08:00.64\00:08:01.64 >> Did you have running water? 00:08:02.31\00:08:03.75 >> We did, fortunately. 00:08:04.65\00:08:07.58 But it had only been installed 00:08:08.48\00:08:10.02 in 1980, five years before we 00:08:10.02\00:08:12.92 moved into it. 00:08:12.92\00:08:14.39 So I'm very appreciative of our 00:08:14.99\00:08:17.19 running water, but, you know, 00:08:17.19\00:08:19.19 because not everybody in the 00:08:19.19\00:08:21.63 community here had running water 00:08:21.63\00:08:23.60 either at that time, you know? 00:08:23.60\00:08:25.33 They would get their water from 00:08:25.33\00:08:26.70 the well, they'd heat it on the 00:08:26.70\00:08:27.74 stove and as I talked to one of 00:08:27.74\00:08:31.24 the daughters that had grown up 00:08:31.24\00:08:33.01 in this house before we-- prior 00:08:33.01\00:08:35.68 to us getting it, she told me a 00:08:35.68\00:08:38.58 lot of stories of living without 00:08:38.58\00:08:41.08 water and the electricity was 00:08:41.08\00:08:43.65 old so it was very limited. 00:08:43.65\00:08:47.36 >> So as you went through this 00:08:47.36\00:08:48.46 renovation process, it was room 00:08:48.46\00:08:50.46 by room. 00:08:50.46\00:08:51.59 Tell us about that and what were 00:08:52.23\00:08:53.63 you experiencing because you 00:08:53.63\00:08:54.76 were experiencing a certain 00:08:54.76\00:08:56.30 growth in your spiritual 00:08:56.30\00:08:57.67 development as well. 00:08:57.67\00:08:58.83 >> Yes. 00:08:59.40\00:09:00.20 So... 00:09:00.20\00:09:01.24 Like I said, we couldn't afford 00:09:02.60\00:09:04.01 it, but it-- the house had 00:09:04.01\00:09:05.94 gotten in such dire need that 00:09:05.94\00:09:09.61 we had to do something with it. 00:09:10.25\00:09:12.28 And over the years of living 00:09:13.52\00:09:15.62 this way, God really had given 00:09:15.62\00:09:17.52 me a heart of contentment. 00:09:17.52\00:09:19.55 I was happy in our country life, 00:09:19.55\00:09:21.39 I didn't need new things. 00:09:21.39\00:09:23.22 But as we grew older, so did the 00:09:24.16\00:09:27.10 house and so it was just in that 00:09:27.10\00:09:29.83 state where we really had to do 00:09:29.83\00:09:33.37 something with it because we 00:09:33.37\00:09:34.60 couldn't live like that any 00:09:34.60\00:09:35.77 longer. 00:09:35.77\00:09:36.60 So I fell on my knees, praying 00:09:37.57\00:09:40.34 over this house and dedicating 00:09:40.34\00:09:42.51 it to God, giving it to Him. 00:09:42.51\00:09:45.01 It was His house to do with it 00:09:45.01\00:09:46.88 whatever He was going to do 00:09:46.88\00:09:48.22 with it. 00:09:48.22\00:09:48.98 So we had looked into the 00:09:50.22\00:09:53.22 possibility of tearing it down 00:09:53.22\00:09:55.29 and building new, but we had 00:09:55.29\00:09:57.59 just finished our mortgage and 00:09:57.59\00:10:00.96 it took us a long time to get to 00:10:00.96\00:10:03.16 that point and we did not wanna 00:10:03.16\00:10:05.23 go into a heavy debt over a 00:10:05.23\00:10:07.37 house at that time and so we 00:10:07.37\00:10:10.74 made the decision that well... 00:10:10.74\00:10:13.64 ...let's start with one room 00:10:15.14\00:10:17.71 and get this room done and it 00:10:17.71\00:10:20.18 happened to be the upstairs 00:10:20.18\00:10:21.38 bathroom. 00:10:21.38\00:10:22.38 So we gutted it down and rebuilt 00:10:23.39\00:10:26.35 it from the bottom up. 00:10:26.35\00:10:28.89 God provided just the amount of 00:10:29.72\00:10:32.06 money to finish that project. 00:10:32.06\00:10:34.93 So then when we moved on to the 00:10:34.93\00:10:36.33 next room, God provided that 00:10:36.33\00:10:39.20 year just enough money to 00:10:39.20\00:10:41.44 complete that project. 00:10:41.44\00:10:42.77 And so forth and so forth 00:10:43.71\00:10:45.57 until the house was completed. 00:10:45.57\00:10:47.68 >> So you were very patient 00:10:48.58\00:10:49.84 going through this whole 00:10:49.84\00:10:50.95 process. 00:10:50.95\00:10:51.95 You also compare in your book 00:10:51.95\00:10:54.68 the house to your body. 00:10:54.68\00:10:57.79 [PAULIE] Yes. 00:10:58.12\00:10:59.05 Yeah, because the Bible tells us 00:10:59.65\00:11:01.46 that we are a temple for God to 00:11:01.46\00:11:03.93 dwell and I knew that and I also 00:11:03.93\00:11:08.30 knew that we needed to take care 00:11:08.30\00:11:10.77 of the things that God provides 00:11:10.77\00:11:13.30 for us and I really felt like we 00:11:13.30\00:11:16.00 hadn't done that very well, but 00:11:16.00\00:11:18.01 He had taken such good care of 00:11:18.01\00:11:19.61 us and I was so thankful 00:11:19.61\00:11:21.41 for that. 00:11:21.41\00:11:22.41 >> So, Paulie, you had to take 00:11:23.01\00:11:24.58 out, like, the walls were 00:11:24.58\00:11:26.15 rotting and the doors and the 00:11:26.15\00:11:28.72 frames and everything, the 00:11:28.72\00:11:30.15 windows, you had to replace 00:11:30.15\00:11:31.69 everything. 00:11:31.69\00:11:32.52 But what about the foundations? 00:11:32.52\00:11:34.26 >> Well, you know, the 00:11:34.79\00:11:35.82 foundation is the reason why we 00:11:35.82\00:11:38.39 decided to go ahead and 00:11:38.39\00:11:40.30 fix it up. 00:11:40.30\00:11:41.16 Because the foundation was 00:11:41.70\00:11:44.13 strong and solid and so were the 00:11:44.13\00:11:47.04 bones of the structure. 00:11:47.04\00:11:49.14 So it gave it, you know, the 00:11:49.77\00:11:53.74 structure and the sturdiness 00:11:53.74\00:11:55.24 that we could build on because 00:11:55.24\00:11:57.91 if a foundation is weak, it 00:11:57.91\00:12:00.42 wouldn't have been worth it, 00:12:00.42\00:12:02.02 you know, and Jesus is our 00:12:02.98\00:12:04.35 foundation... 00:12:04.35\00:12:05.42 >> Yeah, yeah. 00:12:05.42\00:12:06.42 [PAULIE] ...He is our strength. 00:12:06.42\00:12:07.96 And I love that my house 00:12:07.96\00:12:10.26 represents... 00:12:10.26\00:12:11.73 ...a Christian life so well. 00:12:12.99\00:12:16.87 >> So, Paulie, can you tell us 00:12:18.13\00:12:19.93 why you started your book with 00:12:19.93\00:12:22.64 the front porch? 00:12:22.64\00:12:24.01 >> Because the front porch is 00:12:25.14\00:12:27.38 where we first meet Jesus. 00:12:27.38\00:12:30.31 When I first saw my husband, 00:12:31.81\00:12:34.95 he arrived at school later in 00:12:36.18\00:12:39.75 the year. 00:12:39.75\00:12:40.76 So when we heard about him, my 00:12:40.76\00:12:43.66 girlfriends and I were sitting 00:12:43.66\00:12:44.99 in the cafeteria at school 00:12:44.99\00:12:47.96 watching and waiting for that 00:12:47.96\00:12:50.30 first glimpse of this new guy 00:12:50.30\00:12:53.37 in school. 00:12:53.37\00:12:54.37 And as he came through, we 00:12:55.90\00:12:57.64 watched him as he went through 00:12:57.64\00:12:59.27 line, filling his tray of food, 00:12:59.27\00:13:01.74 but it was only the back side 00:13:01.74\00:13:03.08 of him. 00:13:03.08\00:13:03.91 We waited in anticipation for 00:13:04.31\00:13:06.15 him to turn around so we could 00:13:06.15\00:13:08.28 get that first look at him. 00:13:08.28\00:13:11.02 And, of course, when he did, he 00:13:11.02\00:13:12.39 looked straight at us! 00:13:12.39\00:13:14.19 It's like, "Oh no!" [laughs] 00:13:14.19\00:13:16.32 Was I in love with him 00:13:18.99\00:13:20.73 at first sight? 00:13:20.73\00:13:21.83 I might have liked what I saw, 00:13:22.46\00:13:24.57 but I wasn't in love with him 00:13:24.57\00:13:25.97 because I didn't know him. 00:13:25.97\00:13:27.37 As we got to know each other 00:13:28.57\00:13:30.44 and became friends first, 00:13:31.37\00:13:34.38 then that grew. 00:13:34.38\00:13:35.94 So that's where I like to take 00:13:35.94\00:13:38.51 the reader, from the front porch 00:13:38.51\00:13:41.68 first where we first get that 00:13:41.68\00:13:43.32 glimpse of Jesus. 00:13:43.32\00:13:45.55 And I love flowers. 00:13:46.82\00:13:49.09 And as you can see, I have a lot 00:13:49.69\00:13:51.99 of flower beds in my yard. 00:13:51.99\00:13:55.00 And it takes a lot of work to 00:13:55.00\00:13:58.50 take care of these plants, 00:13:58.50\00:14:00.34 you know? 00:14:00.34\00:14:01.00 You have to groom them, you have 00:14:01.10\00:14:02.74 to weed them, you have to 00:14:02.74\00:14:05.44 fertilize them and dead head 00:14:05.44\00:14:06.98 them so they just keep blooming. 00:14:06.98\00:14:08.91 And one of my favourite things 00:14:09.58\00:14:10.98 about my front porch is that I 00:14:10.98\00:14:13.72 love to sit here and have my 00:14:13.72\00:14:16.48 devotions with God in the 00:14:16.48\00:14:17.65 mornings, right here. 00:14:17.65\00:14:19.22 And I fill this porch with 00:14:19.95\00:14:22.26 potted plants, as many flowers 00:14:22.26\00:14:25.23 as I can afford out of the 00:14:25.23\00:14:26.46 greenhouses. 00:14:26.46\00:14:28.00 I get them and I just fill my 00:14:28.00\00:14:29.66 pots with them and hanging from 00:14:29.66\00:14:32.53 the balcony, I usually have 00:14:32.53\00:14:34.77 these big cascading flowers and 00:14:34.77\00:14:39.21 fuchsias, they're my favourites. 00:14:39.21\00:14:41.68 But because they take a lot of 00:14:41.68\00:14:43.04 work, the potted plants, they 00:14:43.04\00:14:45.31 dry out very quickly and I get 00:14:45.31\00:14:47.78 very, very busy on the farm. 00:14:47.78\00:14:49.65 So one year, I found in the 00:14:50.15\00:14:52.89 store, these beautiful hanging 00:14:52.89\00:14:56.12 baskets with these flowering 00:14:56.12\00:14:57.79 plants that were silk. 00:14:57.79\00:15:00.93 They were fake. 00:15:01.46\00:15:03.00 And when I saw those, I thought, 00:15:03.00\00:15:05.97 "Now there is something that 00:15:05.97\00:15:08.67 would really work on my porch." 00:15:08.67\00:15:11.17 So I bought them and I hung them 00:15:11.17\00:15:13.61 here on my porch. 00:15:13.61\00:15:15.01 I wouldn't have to water them, I 00:15:16.28\00:15:18.21 wouldn't have to get the ladder 00:15:18.21\00:15:19.75 and put the fertilizer in and 00:15:19.75\00:15:22.45 snip and, you know, groom them. 00:15:22.45\00:15:25.39 But as I sat here enjoying my 00:15:26.86\00:15:29.36 silk hanging baskets, 00:15:29.36\00:15:32.83 I felt really bad because the 00:15:32.83\00:15:34.13 hummingbirds would come and they 00:15:34.13\00:15:36.13 would be disappointed because 00:15:36.13\00:15:37.63 there was no nectar there for 00:15:37.63\00:15:39.13 them so, you know, I kinda felt 00:15:39.13\00:15:40.50 bad for them. 00:15:40.50\00:15:41.64 But then that summer 00:15:42.44\00:15:46.44 my husband's grandmother 00:15:46.44\00:15:49.11 stopped in. 00:15:49.11\00:15:50.11 Now this was a woman who kept an 00:15:50.11\00:15:52.01 immaculate yard and her garden, 00:15:52.01\00:15:54.75 you would never find a 00:15:54.75\00:15:55.92 weed in it. 00:15:55.92\00:15:57.29 My garden is not like that. 00:15:57.29\00:15:59.55 I like to spend my time in my 00:16:00.12\00:16:01.66 flowers, yes, but they're not 00:16:01.66\00:16:03.43 perfect. 00:16:03.43\00:16:04.33 But anyway, she stopped in that 00:16:05.36\00:16:07.40 day and she wanted to see my 00:16:07.40\00:16:09.50 garden. 00:16:09.50\00:16:10.43 Okay! [laughs] 00:16:11.53\00:16:13.37 I took her around, I took her to 00:16:13.74\00:16:15.27 the vegetable garden first and, 00:16:15.27\00:16:17.91 you know, plucking weeds behind 00:16:18.54\00:16:20.01 her back. 00:16:20.01\00:16:21.01 So anyways, we went around to my 00:16:22.31\00:16:25.01 flower beds and she was really 00:16:25.01\00:16:26.65 enjoying them, you know. 00:16:26.65\00:16:28.52 Some of them I had gotten 00:16:28.52\00:16:30.02 starters from her and so she was 00:16:30.02\00:16:31.95 happy to see that they were 00:16:31.95\00:16:33.76 establishing very well and I had 00:16:33.76\00:16:36.52 a few from other neighbours that 00:16:36.52\00:16:37.96 she was interested in. 00:16:37.96\00:16:39.83 And then she looked over here at 00:16:40.83\00:16:42.30 my porch and she looked at those 00:16:42.30\00:16:44.73 hanging baskets and she 00:16:44.73\00:16:47.74 squealed, [gasps] "Where-- or 00:16:47.74\00:16:50.67 what kind of flowers are those?" 00:16:50.67\00:16:53.01 [laughs] 00:16:53.01\00:16:54.41 Can you imagine my embarrassment 00:16:54.41\00:16:56.71 when I had to tell her that they 00:16:56.71\00:16:58.28 were fake and I didn't know 00:16:58.28\00:17:00.05 their name? [laughs] 00:17:00.05\00:17:02.18 She was not impressed. 00:17:02.18\00:17:04.19 But you know, what I bring out 00:17:06.69\00:17:08.02 in my book, the importance of 00:17:08.02\00:17:09.96 this front porch and meeting, 00:17:09.96\00:17:12.59 this is the place that we meet 00:17:12.59\00:17:13.96 Jesus for the first time, where 00:17:13.96\00:17:16.00 we get our first glimpse of Him. 00:17:16.00\00:17:18.57 And all through nature we can 00:17:18.57\00:17:21.44 find God. 00:17:21.44\00:17:22.60 He's our Creator and it's a joy 00:17:23.84\00:17:27.58 to be out here with Him. 00:17:27.58\00:17:29.44 But we need more. 00:17:30.65\00:17:33.08 Because if this is all our 00:17:33.78\00:17:35.15 Christian life is, we're just 00:17:35.15\00:17:37.79 front porch Christians. 00:17:37.79\00:17:39.72 The Bible says He is knocking at 00:17:40.92\00:17:43.12 our door, He's wanting to come 00:17:43.12\00:17:45.96 in and have a relationship 00:17:45.96\00:17:47.40 with us. 00:17:47.40\00:17:48.46 And so that's the foundation of 00:17:48.96\00:17:51.53 what my book is all about is 00:17:51.53\00:17:53.27 having this personal, intimate 00:17:53.27\00:17:55.27 marriage relationship with 00:17:55.27\00:17:57.17 Jesus. 00:17:57.17\00:17:58.27 >> Paulie, can you tell us a 00:17:59.11\00:18:00.94 little bit more about front 00:18:00.94\00:18:02.78 porch Christianity? 00:18:02.78\00:18:04.65 >> We can know who Jesus is 00:18:05.85\00:18:09.18 without knowing Him personally, 00:18:09.18\00:18:12.19 allowing Him inside. 00:18:12.79\00:18:14.52 And to remain out here on our 00:18:15.52\00:18:17.66 front porch, we can be as fake 00:18:17.66\00:18:22.00 as my hanging silk flowers. 00:18:22.00\00:18:24.40 There are many reasons why we 00:18:26.10\00:18:27.90 may not want Jesus to come in to 00:18:27.90\00:18:30.87 our house. 00:18:30.87\00:18:32.07 My house might be messy. 00:18:32.84\00:18:34.64 It's dirty. 00:18:35.64\00:18:36.98 It's not for public viewing and 00:18:36.98\00:18:39.25 so we're scared to allow God in 00:18:39.25\00:18:41.88 because we think we have to 00:18:41.88\00:18:43.15 become perfect before 00:18:43.15\00:18:46.55 He comes in. 00:18:46.55\00:18:47.92 But He doesn't want to come in 00:18:49.09\00:18:51.19 as a guest, He wants to come in 00:18:51.19\00:18:54.13 as a family member, He wants to 00:18:54.13\00:18:56.97 know us and live with us on a 00:18:56.97\00:18:58.87 very personal level. 00:18:58.87\00:19:01.74 >> Probably most people who see 00:19:02.27\00:19:04.04 your house are just driving by, 00:19:04.04\00:19:06.21 right? 00:19:06.21\00:19:06.94 They only see the outside. 00:19:06.94\00:19:09.11 So who comes into your house? 00:19:09.11\00:19:11.01 >> My friends. 00:19:11.91\00:19:13.05 My friends, family... 00:19:13.42\00:19:15.22 >> And so there's a picture of 00:19:16.38\00:19:18.05 front porch Christianity, you 00:19:18.05\00:19:20.09 know, those who stay out. 00:19:20.09\00:19:21.66 We don't want Jesus to stay out. 00:19:21.66\00:19:23.46 [PAULIE] Right. 00:19:23.46\00:19:24.03 >> We want Him to be our best 00:19:24.16\00:19:25.53 friend, to be inside. 00:19:25.53\00:19:27.50 And that's kinda scary to me 00:19:27.50\00:19:29.26 because, you know, there might 00:19:29.26\00:19:30.27 be drawers I don't want Him 00:19:30.27\00:19:31.77 looking into, there might be 00:19:31.77\00:19:33.97 things in the fridge I don't 00:19:33.97\00:19:35.30 want Him seeing, right? 00:19:35.30\00:19:36.91 [PAULIE] Yeah, yeah. 00:19:36.91\00:19:37.74 >> There might be things in the 00:19:37.74\00:19:39.44 laundry basket or maybe upstairs 00:19:39.44\00:19:41.51 in the attic, you know? 00:19:41.51\00:19:43.45 >> Or even in the garbage. 00:19:43.45\00:19:45.31 [MIKE] Yes. 00:19:45.31\00:19:46.11 [PAULIE] Uh-huh. 00:19:46.11\00:19:47.25 >> And it's so true what you 00:19:47.55\00:19:48.78 mentioned, Paulie, you said we 00:19:48.78\00:19:50.29 can know about Jesus, you know, 00:19:50.29\00:19:54.62 and do all the right things. 00:19:54.62\00:19:56.49 We can read our Bibles, we can 00:19:56.49\00:19:58.69 pray, we can study, we can, 00:19:58.69\00:20:01.76 you know... 00:20:01.76\00:20:02.33 >> Go to church. 00:20:02.33\00:20:03.47 [RENÉ] So we can do all the 00:20:03.47\00:20:04.67 right things and on the outside, 00:20:04.67\00:20:07.00 just like the front porch is 00:20:07.00\00:20:08.77 beautiful, on the outside we can 00:20:08.77\00:20:11.01 appear good because we're doing 00:20:11.01\00:20:13.61 all the right things. 00:20:13.61\00:20:14.91 [PAULIE] Right, but inside... 00:20:14.91\00:20:16.11 >> Inside, yes. 00:20:16.11\00:20:17.15 >> ...we could be a mess 00:20:17.15\00:20:19.15 in need of a restoration. 00:20:19.15\00:20:21.25 >> That's why we need Jesus. 00:20:21.25\00:20:22.85 >> That is why we need Jesus. 00:20:22.85\00:20:24.25 >> He specializes in cleaning up 00:20:24.25\00:20:25.69 messes. 00:20:25.69\00:20:26.45 >> That's right. 00:20:26.45\00:20:27.39 Yeah. 00:20:28.12\00:20:28.82 [gentle orchestral music] 00:20:29.46\00:20:33.03 ¤ I come to the garden alone 00:20:33.03\00:20:40.70 ¤ While the dew 00:20:41.64\00:20:44.24 ¤ is still on the roses 00:20:44.24\00:20:50.21 ¤ And the voice I hear 00:20:50.78\00:20:54.58 ¤ falling on my ear 00:20:55.12\00:20:59.49 ¤ The Son of God discloses 00:21:00.29\00:21:10.13 ¤ And He walks with me 00:21:13.30\00:21:19.07 ¤ and He talks with me 00:21:19.07\00:21:23.85 ¤ And He tells me 00:21:23.85\00:21:26.72 ¤ I am His own 00:21:26.72\00:21:31.75 ¤ And the joy we share 00:21:32.49\00:21:36.52 ¤ as we tarry there 00:21:36.52\00:21:41.73 ¤ None other has ever known 00:21:42.36\00:21:51.44 [orchestral music continues] 00:21:51.44\00:21:54.31 ¤¤ 00:21:54.31\00:22:07.59 ¤ I stayed in the garden 00:22:07.59\00:22:13.09 ¤ with Him 00:22:13.09\00:22:16.33 ¤ Though the night around me ¤ 00:22:16.77\00:22:22.20 ¤ be falling 00:22:22.20\00:22:25.77 ¤ But He bids me go 00:22:26.74\00:22:30.85 ¤ through the voice of woe 00:22:30.85\00:22:35.85 ¤ His voice to me 00:22:35.85\00:22:39.35 ¤ is calling 00:22:40.22\00:22:45.89 ¤ And He walks with me 00:22:46.93\00:22:52.30 ¤ and He talks with me 00:22:52.30\00:22:57.07 ¤ And He tells me 00:22:57.07\00:22:59.74 ¤ I am His own 00:22:59.74\00:23:05.21 ¤ And the joy we share 00:23:05.21\00:23:08.88 ¤ as we tarry there 00:23:09.42\00:23:14.46 ¤ None other has ever known 00:23:15.39\00:23:24.47 [orchestral music continues] 00:23:24.47\00:23:27.54 ¤¤ 00:23:27.54\00:23:53.16 >> Paulie, I have a copy of your 00:23:58.40\00:23:59.73 book here and it just has a feel 00:23:59.73\00:24:02.64 about it, like, I feel what you 00:24:02.64\00:24:04.64 went through over the years. 00:24:04.64\00:24:06.64 You know, you have the old 00:24:06.64\00:24:07.74 pictures and you got the new 00:24:07.74\00:24:08.71 pictures, you've got the 00:24:08.71\00:24:10.01 renovations, you've got your 00:24:10.01\00:24:11.51 kids growing up here, you've got 00:24:11.51\00:24:14.45 you and Kenny before you got 00:24:14.45\00:24:16.25 married and when you got 00:24:16.25\00:24:17.55 married and it's just a real, 00:24:17.55\00:24:21.06 it just draws you in. 00:24:21.92\00:24:23.53 >> Yeah, it was so relatable, 00:24:24.06\00:24:26.13 you know, knowing how, just how 00:24:26.13\00:24:28.60 important it is to have Jesus as 00:24:28.60\00:24:31.23 our friend. 00:24:31.23\00:24:32.60 >> Yeah, you know, that was my 00:24:32.60\00:24:33.90 purpose was to make it simple 00:24:33.90\00:24:36.74 but yet deeply inspirational for 00:24:36.74\00:24:42.18 people in their walk with 00:24:42.18\00:24:43.85 Christ, you know, to draw Christ 00:24:43.85\00:24:46.65 in to their homes, into their 00:24:46.65\00:24:49.15 bodies for that special deep 00:24:49.15\00:24:52.35 relationship with Him. 00:24:52.35\00:24:53.99 >> And I just love the way you 00:24:53.99\00:24:55.49 did each room. 00:24:55.49\00:24:57.29 Like, every room you went 00:24:57.89\00:25:00.43 through each room and then had 00:25:00.43\00:25:02.36 the spiritual restoration with 00:25:02.36\00:25:06.13 the physical restoration. 00:25:06.13\00:25:08.14 And I just loved the way you 00:25:08.14\00:25:09.37 brought Jesus into each and 00:25:09.37\00:25:11.01 every room that you remodelled. 00:25:11.01\00:25:12.94 >> Right because we want Him in 00:25:12.94\00:25:14.58 every room of our lives, 00:25:14.58\00:25:17.18 every section of our lives, 00:25:17.18\00:25:20.48 we need Him. 00:25:20.48\00:25:21.62 [MIKE] Yes. 00:25:21.62\00:25:22.52 And the thing about it is, He 00:25:22.52\00:25:25.05 removes the fear. 00:25:25.05\00:25:26.52 He brings peace, He brings joy 00:25:26.96\00:25:30.59 and no condemnation. 00:25:30.59\00:25:32.19 >> That's right. 00:25:32.19\00:25:33.09 And when you look at Christ's 00:25:33.09\00:25:34.66 life here on earth, 00:25:34.66\00:25:37.03 who did He hang out with? 00:25:37.03\00:25:38.57 Who did He minister to? 00:25:38.57\00:25:41.34 It was the ones in need, the 00:25:41.34\00:25:43.54 ones who needed the restoration. 00:25:43.54\00:25:46.24 >> And so we are on the front 00:25:46.91\00:25:48.58 porch today and I'm looking 00:25:48.58\00:25:50.81 forward to going into your 00:25:50.81\00:25:52.08 house, but we've run out of time 00:25:52.08\00:25:55.08 and so we're gonna have to 00:25:55.08\00:25:57.02 continue next week, but before 00:25:57.02\00:25:59.55 we do that, I wonder if, Paulie, 00:25:59.55\00:26:01.39 you could pray for our viewers. 00:26:01.39\00:26:02.89 Maybe there is someone who just 00:26:02.89\00:26:05.63 is not ready to let Jesus go 00:26:05.63\00:26:08.33 past the front porch and pray 00:26:08.33\00:26:10.83 for such a person to say, "Hey, 00:26:10.83\00:26:13.23 I can trust Jesus to come into 00:26:13.23\00:26:15.34 my heart, come into my life, 00:26:15.34\00:26:18.51 into my house." 00:26:18.51\00:26:19.41 >> I would love to do that. 00:26:20.04\00:26:21.44 Dear Heavenly Father, 00:26:23.51\00:26:25.25 what a privilege it is to be on 00:26:26.28\00:26:29.28 this front porch where we first 00:26:29.28\00:26:31.99 meet You. 00:26:31.99\00:26:32.99 Father, I know that there are 00:26:33.66\00:26:35.56 many people that wonder about 00:26:35.56\00:26:38.36 You, that don't know You on a 00:26:38.36\00:26:40.60 personal level, and so, Father, 00:26:40.60\00:26:42.40 I wanna pray for them right now, 00:26:42.40\00:26:44.43 that they will hear that knock 00:26:45.33\00:26:47.34 upon their heart and that want 00:26:47.34\00:26:50.87 to, to open themselves up to You 00:26:50.87\00:26:53.38 and let You in. 00:26:53.38\00:26:54.78 Touch them in a way, Lord, that 00:26:55.51\00:26:58.01 they know and want 00:26:58.01\00:27:01.12 a relationship with You. 00:27:01.12\00:27:02.85 In this I pray, amen. 00:27:03.39\00:27:05.35 [MIKE] Amen. 00:27:05.72\00:27:06.39 >> Paulie, thank you so much for 00:27:06.39\00:27:07.96 having us at your old Victorian 00:27:07.96\00:27:10.19 house today. 00:27:10.19\00:27:11.59 >> Thank 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